find other depraved individuals to help them. mr. heath: we have another doctor in the audience, dr. oscar green submitted this question, what is your game plan to reform the tax code? mr. carson: baseline on uiwho i consider to be the fairest individual in the universe -- god. there must be something fair about proportionality, that is what i do. it would have to be somewhere between 10% and 15% initially no deductions and notables. mr. heath: thank you. >> governor jeb bush served as the 43rd of florida. mr. heath: governor's america doing enough now to prevent another major terrorist attack on u.s. soil, and what steps are

we failing to take? mr. bush: we have let our guard down a little bit. it is difficult. united after 9/11, responded created an apparatus that kept us a overtime now concerned about civil liberties have comes to the forefront. we need to reinvigorate this. senator graham is right. as a war against western civilization. these are barbarians. isis stays currently in a caliphate, the size of indiana doing nothing gives them the chance to be able to send tweets out to recruit people here in our country. we have a security threat that is real we need to do what we should be doing, which is a strategy to take them out. protecting the homeland is the first duty of the president. mr. heath: obama recently

referred to prices as the j.v. team. we agree to have graduated to a varsity threat. if your generals told you a month or so special forces in syria could significantly cut down isis strongholds, would you get the order? mr. bush: i would take the advice of the military seriously. a strategy. this president -- two times as many we do not have a strategy related to isis. pretty amazing. special forces. the idea of its underground, i'm not sure that is the theory but special forces and getting our trainers and forces with the syrian free army, training them at a much faster rate. we spent $500 million to that $69, people ready to go. if this is a serious african need to treat it seriously. -- if this is a serious effort,

we need to treat it seriously. supporting it with air power and power and creating a strategy and sticking with it. the final thing things threre needs to be a political element as well. it is hard to enage with turks and saudis, they are not going to make a commitment. mr. heath: you said today in california, the country, hard job running for president. you have been out of office for a while, even senator rubio speaks well of your time in florida. mr. bush: we can grow our economy. mr. heath: you think so? mr. bush: and the fact that paul krugman disagrees with me warm smile heart.

the tax code completely regulate and embracing the energy revolution with a north american strategy that will lie for -- that will allow for jobs the created, and to move to an economic driver is that will solve our entitlement challenges. in order to grow at a it will roll. we need the skills to do that. cut taxes to 19 billion dollars. we got the workforce 11%. we went to triple-a bond ratings. i loved as government with a $9 billion reserve for a rainy day for the next guy, and created 4.3 million jobs during. small businesses, more jobs were small businesses were created during this he years. mr. heath: legal immigration does the illegal crisis, shouldn't affect the number of folks in legally?

mr. bush: we need to narrow the number people comforting in by family physic petitioning. >> carly fiorina was the first woman to lead a fortune 50 business. mr. heath: it is kind of personal and professional question, and run for office but you were a top 50 ceo. you talked about your business background. one of our people who started this wants to know what is believed our action you have taken as a leader, and what did you learn from it? ms. fiorina: thank you st. aa nselm, for hosting this. thank you for doing. i think one of the most

difficult decisions you have as a leader is to challenge the status quo what the status quo is. status quo in any system, any business bureaucracy, and in washington, d.c., is powerful because people who have benefited from the status quo want to deserve it. when you challenge the status quo, we see this problem has been festering to and we will fight useful to the chart for too long, we have been talking about this tomorrow,. the truth is a percent of the american people think we have professional political class that likened to the status quo. we even talking today about illegal immigration. how will the talking border being insecure? 30 years. how long have we know it is insecure? 30 years. how long has it been insecure?

30 years. somehow we never saw these problems because the status quo is in charge. leaders challenge the status quo. mr. heath: the popular action? ms. fiorina: when using the people we cannot afford to do this anymore. mr. heath: can you win with that message? ms. fiorina: people understand. our government has gotten bigger and bigger every year for almost 50 years. you have to invest in those things that are priorities, securing the border, helping people who need help, and he quit spending money -- and you need to quit spending money. and we are wasting hundreds upon millions of dollars every year. we know where it is because there are reports that land on congress' desk and nothing happens. mr. heath: hillary clinton --

you have been a strong, steady critic of hillary clinton. she will be testifying in if you on benghazi, maybe e-mails. do you think those are political inconveniences, or on their energies the american people need to know about? are there any words you have on the illegal server for anything else? ms. fiorina: i think clinton thinks they are political inconveniences, they are more than it. she lied about benghazi. they was a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. she went to the top some fixed -- and talked some fiction about a videotape. she has lied about her servers and the kinds of information she had her server and why should get everything on a single device. go to the core of her character. in order to beat hillary clinton

or their nominee, we have to have a nominee will throw every punch, because this is a fight a fight for the future of this nature -- nation, and unfortunately, we know that sometimes right questions do not get asked me presidential debate. mr. heath: should plan. code that should planned parenthood received federal funding? ms. fiorina: absolutely night. taking care of people who need care is part of the moral fiber of our life. >> governor bobby jindal has served as governor of louisiana 2007. mr. heath: if you are the next american president, most people would agree you would be coming into a divided and race relations, income relations, and how much money.

how can you unify his country? governor jindal: made trying to divide us by gender and race. we're all americans. this president has the awful job. as president i will unify the american people, so we can benefit when we shrink the size of the federal government. this president is going to try to turn the european -- the american dream to the european nightmare. give bernie sanders credit that at least he calls himself a socialist. as president, i unite the people. no more hyphenated americans. mr. heath: balancing the budget, make wash work. there is a feeling that almost

everyone would agree that washington is not working for america. you have a good story to tell. balancing the budget, cutting the deficit but how do we believe we can go to washington collected and changed the culture of washington to balance budgets and making the american people be good about their government? governor jindal: we have cut the size of our budget 26%. we have 30,000 fewer state bureaucrats. i had democratic and majorities. even republicans in the same talk about the slow the growth of federal spending. we had a pungent deniers in both parties that we had a bunch of deniers in both parties.

hillary clinton measures in the government sector. we measure it in the real world. it is important to get rid of his permanent political class in d.c. we need term limits. you politicians that live there and becomes a career. we need to stop them from becoming lobbyists, paying than a per diem. i would pay them every day they stay out of d.c. mr. heath: new hampshire in the accident general in the national guard decided against army recruiters domestically as when they are wrong. best when they are brought -- when they are brought. should we be arming them? governor jindal: absolutely.

our commander-in-chief needs to do the same for actor military. we should not have gone-free zones. the president should go to the pentagon and said there is a generational conflict, and i glad that police officer in texas have a gun in garland, texas. if patton said to eisenhower, the french would be speaking german. let's are our military. mr. heath: i would like to take a president at his word regarding dealing with iraq. governor jindal: i disagree. this is a bad deal. he has declared wars on trans fats. a good deal with anytime anywhere inspections no centrifuges, no enriched uranium . they have to recognize israel's right to exist. no plutonium pathway.

we will only gradually take away sanctions, not immediately. israel does not like it. that tells you all you need to know. >> governor scott walker has served as the 45th governor of wisconsin its 2011. -- since 2011. mr. heath: what steps should the country be doing to address climate change? cutting carbon emissions 25% -- is that realistic? governor walker: it would be like a was saw to the economy. i was a boy scout. i want to bounce a sustainable environment sustainable economy. they have to go in hand. i want clean air, land, water.

they have to go hand-in-hand. this proposal today is a consultant economy. we need a leader in the white house ties that bound. mr. heath: it was not long ago that sequestration came about. if you were elected president how did you work with congress both sides, to cut spending and be specific on areas the budget you think could or need to be cut? governor walker: i am for a balanced budget. we reduced taxes on individuals reduced one of the brackets on job creators and farmers. then we lowered property taxes. simon to balance the budget. it is something i have done the past. it's got to be too great and reform.

we lay a multi-pronged plan to repeal obamacare and patience back in charge of their health care, reading in things we just talked about regulations that are like a wet blanket, an energy policy that allows us to use the abundance to make sure that everybody is skills they need to succeed, and reform and lower tax rates. on specifics reductions, could be part of reform is taking major portions of the federal government and others and take them from washington, send them back to the states. governors will be more efficient. mr. heath: were path in wisconsin as governor, you survived a recall, you got a good story on balancing the budget, you have a surplus -- how much now? governor walker: we used it to

cut taxes by 500 billion dollars, and our rainy day fund is bigger than when he took office. mr. heath: you have been known as someone who took on unions. governor walker: i am pro-worker, from taxpayer. the main wisconsin and right thing. he gave people in wisconsin the freedom to choose. many chairs to keep that money to pay for their kids college education. we are pro-taxpayer. we redistributed that back to the hard-working taxpayers, and the people they duly elected, we no longer have seniority or tenure in schools we can pay based on performance. four years later, restoration rates are up, reading scores are up a.c.t. scores are the second

best in the country. mr. heath: biggest challenge that you feel you are successful on? governor walker: taking on the budget deficit. i focused on the forum" and that made all the difference. >> governor george pataki serve as the governor of new york from 1995 until 2006. mr. heath: this question comes from the live free or die outline what agency do you think should be eliminated? mr. pataki: we should get rid of obamacare, common core, reduce the size of the federal force by the 15%. he say, how can you do that? i had an overwhelming democratic

legislature. i was able to get changes like that through. i reduce the size of the workforce by over 15%. we cut the growth and medicaid. we change the welfare system. over one million fewer people on welfare than when it costs. you should the size of the federal government. one program i would repeal is obamacare. to do that to get democratic votes. not been able to send you to the present. the democrats to support conservative policies. mr. heath: you believe the aca can be repealed? mr. pataki: i think it has to be repealed. it is going to get worse worse not only is it hurting health care for americans, it is also one of the reasons our economy is not growing. i cannot tell you the number of employers say they will keep their workforce low 50 -- below

50. there are millions of americans working 29 hours a week because of obamacare kick in. if the put in place an alternative. i would sit down with the democrats as i did in an alternative that allows us to give as basis that powers the patient. mr. heath: one of the folks in new hampshire wants to know what group you think is treated most fairly by the tax code? mr. pataki: that aremr. pataki:. our freedom depends on those who live their lives on the line. that a health care system for veterans that denies them so as where 1/3 of those waiting in line at.com and an administration lies about it is wrong. we have performed health-care system parameter you to do more for the mental health.

on the tax code, the biggest single killer there is for manufacturers. artwork in a small town, who is -- i worked in a small time. my family all worked in a fa ctory. we have the highest tax on manufacturing in the world today. the worst regulatory state. he had to lower tax that we have to lower the tax burden. this will allow our great workforce to create jobs. despite the bad federal policy on manufacturing, we were able to get over $20 billion private sector investment in building computer just factories in upstate new york. grow the economy, allow workers to have a solid and should the federal government. mr. heath: glitch in the corporate tax rate be? mr. pataki: i was a 12% which is

lower than competitors. energy costs are coming down. we have the best workforce and work ethic in the world. you entrepreneurs -- we have entrepreneurs. we can grow manufacturing. mr. heath: should taxpayers fund planned parenthood? mr. pataki: plan or who has a basic disregard, and i think they should be defunded. mr. heath: we will get you next round. thank you. >>now joining us from washington are three senators who had to be at the capito this evening. lthey wanted to be her, but we

are happy to then joining us by satellite. i believe we are joined by our senators and we will start with senator rand paul. good evening. running for president in 1952, general dwight eisenhower said i shall go to korea. if you are elected president name the first 41 spot you will travel to. mr. paul: thanks for letting us. remotely. i have been leading the fight to defund obamacare and was lucky enough to get a vote on that this evening. first country i will travel to i think it is important we engage with so i think it is important that even in is sometimes our adversary, russia is our adversary, that we interact with these once great superpowers and

emerging superpowers. i would say either china or russia. mr. heath: how would you lessen college that for millions of americans? mr. paul: i would make it presentable. i would say your interest and principal of the infected over your entire career. college is a working expense, so i would let you deduct it as a working expense throughout your entire working career. this makes more sense than what the president says, it's going to be free. there is no free lunch. timing is work and making it deductible is a good idea. mr. heath: an american center found be fighting with isis -- should an american citizen found be fighting with isis have their citizenship revoked? mr. paul: you have no rights when you are in the battlefield.

i have filibustered over 13 have to say noncombatants do have rights and should be killed without due process, but those who are friday against america -- this is important to note that american citizen here do get due process. we get the bill of rights and the danger we have when we have people like japanese-americans and incarcerated that. but we did to african americans, pre-civil rights and we have to be important that we individualized suspicion and we collect everyone's phone records all-time without suspicion. i'm glad we entered the president's illegal phone program, and this is the better the fourth. we will not let you collect phone records indiscriminately. mr. heath: what private information should the government collect from

individuals guaranty and security? where do you draw the line? mr. paul: we should collect more information on terrorists, less information on innocent individuals. we had a way to get information the fourth amendment. you have to individualized decision. the 17th the 19th hijacker, we had information and we fail to get a warrant. it was not that it was the night. boston bomber, we failed to pursue the information. same with the four foot massacre. i think we can catch terrorists can get more information on terrorists, but there is no evidence. there are three bipartisan commission that same information here capturing indiscriminately on has not caught any terrorists, has damaged our bill of rights as our right to privacy. mr. heath: radvision might take

some time in a terrorist situation with federal agents to stop a bomb going off if you have to get that warrant? mr. paul: there are always circumstances. there have always been circumstances, but for the most part you need to get a warrant. the real quentin -- question, collecting americans phone records all the time? is that a time. best is that a good idea? this is a president who went after conservative groups. it's not a good idea to trust the president with our records. lasted about principle or 10 and a half hours on the senate floor to say the president should be collecting records. we should do it in a targeted

pass and do more collection of information, just less on innocent americans. mr. heath: my next question is for a colleague on your left or right. senator ted cruz. arthur schwartz wonders what you're dealing with iran. senator cruz: thank you very much. we had to be here to vote to defund the parenthood and i have seen republican leadership believes the fight to get it done. funding and. it. let me ask -- answer the question. i believe this obama a radiant with their deal is the single greatest national security threat raising america. if this deal goes through, several things. first of all roughly $100 billion will flow into the iran. joran is that leading state

sponsor of terrorism. billions of that will go on to hamas, hezbollah. it is interesting. if this deal goes through the obama administration will become the world's leading global financier of radical islamic terrorists. in response, last week president obama attacked me from africa for saying that. he says that rhetoric was overheated. that's me tell you, speaking the truth is that rhetoric. the gene is if this administration is the obama and clinton and kerry are responsible for sending billions of dollars to iran and that -- those billions go to jihadists use that money to murder americans and israelis can european summit in the administration is responsible beyond that. this deal mleaves four

americans languishing in iran. this deal accelerates your acquiring nuclear weapons. what should we do? i just legislation that would reimpose sanctions and drink the them to a clear committee is for iran to lift sanctions that they would disassemble all 19,000 centrifuges, and over and reached uranium can shut down their icbm program which exists for what purpose than to carry a the united company would cease being the world's leading sponsor of terrorism. everything i can to the american people fits this abstract deal because it is a profound threat to the safety and security of america, and we need a commander in chief to defend this nation. mr. heath: tell us about a time

where your judgment has been tested and what you want to appreciate your judgment. senator cruz: i will tell you serving in the senate is an interesting experience.

that's something i'm willing to explore. what i do not support as the legalization of marijuana or any additional intoxicant. this country is paying a significant price for the use of illegal drugs. talk about new hampshire for a moment. what is not reported nationally is many of the people dependent on heroine is becoming -- because it became dependent on prescription opiates. when it became difficult to get those, they unfortunately became

addicted on opium and heroin in the streets as a result. they are not in support of any additional intoxicants being legalized, marijuana. for medicinal purposes, if it was truly designed to be used as medicine, not as a way to get high, that is something i would be willing to explore. senator rubio: what would your policy be for undocumented aliens? senator rubio: this is an issue that everyone agrees that we have to fix. it cannot be fixed in one piece of legislation.

they want to see more euros. this over 40% of the people in this country illegally entered legally. that's why we need an electronic revocation system that employers must comply with or they will be buying the that or they will be fined. that is the key that unless the ability to make progress on anything else when it comes to immigration. once we have done that the second -- we do so on the basis of whether or not they had a relative you. we cannot afford to do it that way anymore. in the 21st situation, legal immigration must be based on merit, as opposed to living in america. once we had those things, there

is a reasonable way to address the fact that 12 million people living in this country who are illegally here. they will have to pass a background check, pay a fine, start paying taxes. to learn english. in exchange for that what he will get is a work permit that allows them to work in the united states that is all they will for a time. at some point how and why is america where it's at right now, and what is the reason for it?

how do we get fired up for the future of all generations of americans? senator rubio: that is the fundamental question of the selection. the world around us is changing. we need to decide what kind of country we will be in the 21st century. the reason why people feel so insecure in their economic lives is our economy has rapidly changed. we live in a country where the largest retailer, amazon.com a does not own a single store. the largest hospitality company airbnb doesn't own a single hotel room. we also live in a car that is rapidly changing. china is taking over the south china sea. russia is threatening the unity of europe and nato. iran is on the verge of not just acquiring nuclear weapons but the ability to deliver it to the united states. radical jihadists have spread across multiple continents across the world, and some are located in the united states. the result of these changes is

it makes people feel insecure. they recognize the old ways of doing things no longer work. no one has outlined the way forward. what we need are leaders who understand this era, who have clear ideas about how to modernize our economic policies to fully benefit from the opportunities of the new economy , and also ideas about how to restore not just american prestige but our military power our ability to stand with our allies, and already -- our ability to anticipate crises. two. at the end, we hope each candidate will have 30 seconds to say what they want to become orders from when he or support. we will stay with our guests with washington. senator paul, your father's

campaign aided in new hampshire. libertarian, libertarian, contrary mr. paul: senator was enumerated in the constitution and the rest of the rights were left. war should be seen as a last resort. that is what reagan believed. he was seen as a great president. i will do whatever it takes. i also look judiciously in a personal way to whether we go to war. i know a young man who lost both arms in a lake, and we should not would you like it is a game.

i will something to do on occasion but i think it should first resort, always be the last resort. mr. heath: louisville qqq 30 seconds now anything you say to voters in new hampshire, south carolina, i will, or the national audience. mr. paul: i am a different kind of republican. i am leaving hillary clinton in five states won by obama. i'd been to detroit, chicago ferguson with a message that liberty, low taxes will give -- will bring jobs back. i did this message is resonating. i have been for from jesse. you have locked up way too many

kids i am the only republican leading in pennsylvania. he had not been winning, and if she tried the same thing over and going to win. i wonder who will put forward a plan and message that is distinct. mr. heath: senator ted cruz, you agree republicans might have been blamed for the affordable care act mr. heath: would you agree that republicans in congress might have been blamed for the affordable care act because they don't come up with a solution sooner for the americans that did not have health insurance. had they maybe obamacare maybe never would have been passed. i want to know your thoughts on that. are there any parts of the affordable care act you think are worth keeping? mr. cruz: well, there is no doubt we need common sense health care reform. and it is something you are seeing a lot of republicans talking a lot about ideas. i think health care reform ought to expand competition and

empower patients and disempower government bureaucrats from getting between us and our doctors. the best way to do that are number one, allowing people to purchase health insurance across state lines so you can have true national marketplace and low cost health insurance. number two, as dr. ben carson talked about very effectively, expanding health savings accounts so that you can save for more routine health needs. number three, working to make health insurance affordable. delinking it from employment, so when you lose your job, the insurance stays with you. that empowers the patient. obamacare is a disaster. the state of new hampshire insurance companies have put in this year for premium increases of 51%. in iowa 30%. in south carolina 33%. millions of americans have lost their jobs and health care and been forced into part-time work. i have been proud to lead the

fight to stop obamacare in the united states senate against the washington cartel. and there are a lot of politicians in washington that have given up. they don't believe obamacare can be repealed, including sadly a fair number of republicans. i don't believe that. i intend to make 2016 a referendum on repealing obamacare and if i'm elected president we'll repeal every word of obamacare and pass common sense health insurance reform to make it personal, portable and affordable. mr. heath: senator, you now have 30 seconds. mr. cruz: 58 years ago my father fled cuba. when he was standing on the deck of the boat, looking back imprisonment and torture in cuba, he looked forward to the

incredible freedom this nation provides. his story is all of our stories. the fundamental d.n.o. of what it means to be an american is we are the children of those that risked everything for freedom. that is in jeopardy. men and women, their lives are hard jeremy lin under -- under the disaster that is the american economy. i believe in america. if we can believe again and come back to the free market principles and constitutional liberties that made america great, we can turn the country around. i believe 2016 is going to be an election like 1980. as ronald reagan said, we will win by painting in bold colors, not pale pastels. mr. heath: thank you. some felt the government is going too far trying to collect

data and information on terrorist activity, even against individuals if they were innocent. do you think he made an effort to do that, to get away with the data mining made the country safer or less safe. do you also, second part of this, do you trust no one in the government will misuse phone and internet records? mr. rubio: let me say as a member of the united states intelligence committee. on a daily basis i review the threats coming at our country. we are living in a period that is more dangerous than any we ever lived through before. all the attention paid to isis is not just isis, al-qaeda still exists and is an organization looking to remain relevant and the best way for them to remain relevant is to conduct a devastating attack the united states, there is a front growing in power in syria. some are plotting attacks against the united states and

our allies and interests. they are engaging in trying to recruit and inspire radicals in our own country to kill americans and attack our interests here and abroad. these risks are serious. they are not a game. in my mind it is not a question of if we're attacked, it is a question of when. when we are the american people will want to know why didn't we know about it and why weren't we able to stop it. we need every tool at our disposal. we have lost information we used to have. in the last four years, i have seen us lose access to information because of unauthorized disclosures that have made it easier for terrorists to evade us. do i believe that this information could be used for wrongful purposes? if they do they should be prosecuted and thrown in jail. if it ever does, we have laws for that. people should go to jail and be convicted and put away and punished for having done it. i can tell you the threats to america are real. we better take them seriously or

we will answer for it. mr. heath: senator, you have 30 seconds. mr. rubio: thank you for this opportunity. you know, a decade go, two decadessing my mother was a maid and my father a bartender. i'm a candidate for the highest office in the land. the journey i made is the essence of the american dream. that is what makes america different. it is what makes america special. the reason i'm running for president is because i want us to be that country. i want us to be the country where people can do for their parents or children what my parents did for me. that's why tonight i ask everyone watching for your vote. together, not only can we save and rebuild the american dream but leave for our children a new american century. mr. heath: thank you. our senators in washington, now back to the candidates here in

new hampshire. >> ben carson written eight books and was on the board of directors for kellogg company and costco. mr. heath: welcome back. mr. carson: thank you. mr. heath: someone say the two biggest responsibilities of a president is deciding when to send troops to war and naming a supreme court justice. i would like to ask about the latter. what kind of person would you pick as a supreme court justice. mr. carson: i would be extremely interested in their past judicial history. interestingly enough, you don't have to be a lawyer or a judge to be a supreme court justice. your history tells a great deal. you know, using litmus tests using questioning, probably will never get you to where you need to be. looking at what they have done before, making sure they truly understand the constitution, and what their role is in the

judicialary would be very important. mr. heath: as you look ahead in this process and all the republicans running, how important is an event like this for you when you can come to a state like new hampshire and be part of this versus a national event where they are looking at national polls this early in the process and do you worry about that and also big money in politics. what has to change for americans to feel that they, voters like tonight, actually are being heard and responded to versus other interests? mr. carson: i think these kinds of forums are obviously very important. particularly for individuals like me, 50% of america still doesn't even know who i many a. probably a little better after tonight. we will continue with that. and i am absolutely thrilled to have an opportunity to let people understand that our country was designed, of and for and by the people.

there was never any intention that the people who are our representatives should have to be of the political class. they can come from any class. i appreciate the work that many of my colleagues have done as governors and senators and other representatives, but the fact of the matter is the experiences that made america to a great nation came from a whole broad spectrum of people and it is our talent and our ability as people that will make this a great nation once again. mr. heath: in the first round you were touching on tax reform. a moment on that, or a second before before you go to your 30 seconds if you want to finish the thought. mr. carson: a lot of people talk about a guy that made ten billion dollars and paid a billion. he still has nine billion left. we have to take his money. that is called socialism. that doesn't work well. what makes america great is that we have the opposite attitude.

we say let's encourage risk taking and capital investment so next year he can make $20 billion and put two billion in and grow the pot for everybody. mr. heath: 30 seconds. mr. carson: our nation is in a lot of trouble. we have tremendous divisness going on. there is a war on women, income war, age wars, religious wars. you name it, there is a war on it. we have fiscal irresponsibility that threatens to undermine our foundation and destroy the future for our children. we have a failure to lead, which allows other forces to get in there to grow and to threaten our future. we need to recognize that these are american problems. they are not democrat or republican problems. mr. heath: thank you, dr. ben carson. >> during his tenure, scott walker eliminated wisconsin's $

3.6 billion budget deficit without raising taxes. mr. heath: do you support raising the eligibility for social security benefits if it is raised over time. mr. walker: i think for my age for my generation and those younger, we'll have to make reforms going forward. it is part of the process that when you look at things like medicare, social security, you need to protect those for people at that age. for medicaid, it is something that needs to be sent back to the states without strings attached where it can be done more effectively. mr. heath: i asked a few of your colleagues, can you win this election against the democratic nominee and be truthful about entitlement reform when some critics say you are antisenior, antikid, antihuman, to save some of these programs that are going bankrupt? mr. walker: i won three elections in four years. the last two i won after a lot of people were upset on the democrat side of things. we did it by making big bold

actions and got results. i would love to go against whether it is hillary clinton or joe biden, i'm a new fresh face haves a name from the past. i'm from outside of washington with a proven track record. i have gotten things done in a blue state. mr. heath: 30 seconds. mr. walker: thank you for hosting. it is great to be back in new hampshire. we are blessed to have a wonderful group of republicans running for president. sometimes people ask me what makes me different. i fought and i won. i don't win three elections in four years. we won on the big issues. we balanced the budget, cut taxes, defunneledded planned parent hood long before these videos and we put the power in the hands of the people. if we can do it in wisconsin it is not too late there and certainly not too late for america. i ask for your vote. mr. heath: thank you. mr. walker: thank you. >> during rick perry's time as governor, texas created almost 1/3rd of private sector jobs

in the united states. mr. heath: governor perry, in the past you mentioned cutting federal agencies. we talked a lot about the debt, the size of government not working for the rest of america. what specifically, what agencies would you either eliminate or cut? mr. perry: i heard this question before. mr. heath: i thought you might have. mr. perry: i think it is -- when you look at the federal government, obviously when we talk about the size of it and the concept of being able to shrink the size of state government. if anybody gets on the stage whether any of these candidates here or anybody on the left that says there is any way to go forward in this country without cutting and without growing, those are the two things that we must do in this country. we have to cut spending. i know a little bit about cutting spending. we had a $10 billion shortfall in 2003. we went in and made the cuts. we told people we would do that.

we realize that's how you have to live your life. the government has to learn to do it as well. the states that have been successful, governors have done that and made successful cuts. we cut the $10 billion out and cut the regulatory laws down. we had sweeping tort reform. we had health care explode across texas. two years later, we came back into session, we only meet every other year for 140 days, we had an $8 bill budget surplus. that's what you can do in this country. i believe in this country. i believe if you put those principles in place, the greatest days of america are in front of us. mr. heath: governor perry, i heard several primaries that pick, people want to run for president with good intentions and say we need to reform the tax code. it is too complicated.

with kev reform -- can we reform the code? mr. perry: we can. we start with the corporate tax code. there are two things to make growth occur in this country. as i said earlier, it is with american and north american energy policy. i'm talking about all energy policy in this country and all domestic energy sources. we need to be using those because you drive down the cost of electricity by this abundant power we have. couple that with this corporate tax. you lower the corporate tax policy or corporate tax rate by 10%. every accountant will tell you that you will see a mid level wages increase between 5 and 10%. the other side of that is it is incentive to manufacturers. we can bring back manufacturing in this country like you have never seen before. blue collar workers ought to say "perry, i'm going to vote for you because you will raise my wages." that's what this is about. we are going to lay out a

positive message for the people of the country, where they see the best days of america are in front of us and it happens by using domestic energy and creating a climate for manufacturing like we've never seen in this country before. mr. heath: will you have an individual tax reform plan? mr. perry: we'll lay it out. listen, you have to cut. you have to cut. whether it is cutting spending or tax rates, that is part of it. if you don't see the growth side of that with it, you're not paying attention. mr. heath: you have 30 seconds. mr. perry: the greatest days of america are in front of us. i believe that with all my heart. i'm an optimist about the future of this country. i understand it. i have seen what we have done before. i think about 1979 and this country was on its back. we had a president that was hollowing out the military. we had an embassy that had been taken over in teheran. but ten years later, ten years later, we saw the berlin wall fall and soviet communism on its

way out because we elected a president that believed in this country and said that when america is strong the world is safer. we made it through two world wars and a depression. we made it through jimmy carter, we'll make it through barack obama. trust me. mr. heath: thank you, governor. >> governor jindal's education reform efforts cut the number of failing louisiana schools in half while the high school graduation rate reached and all-time high. mr. heath: governor, when people run for president, they say the first executive order i will sign, i'll ask the question, what are the first two orders you would push through or sign? mr. jindal: the first thing we can do is get rid of the unconstitutional executive orders, granting amnesty. we have to get with the joint commanders and announce to the world america is coming back. we'll stand with our allies like israel and deter our enemies.

we will tell iran they cannot be a nuclear power. we will not allow russia to come in eastern europe. we have a lot to do domestically. we have to repeal obamacare energy independence, a lower tax code. we have to reign in the e.p.a. we have to repeal illegal amnesty and meet with the military, say we won't hollow out the military, america is coming back. our alleys can trust us again. mr. heath: there are things in this day and this age called super pacs. some candidates have one. i think an individual contribution may be $25 or $2700 someone can give your campaign do you think these super pa.c.s where you can give $10 million are good, okay? should there be change on campaign finance? mr. jindal: i'm glad this is an election, not an auction. i'm glad the voters of new hampshire, iowa, and the other states pick the nominee.

i'm for free speech. i'm not for limiting free speech. when it comes to campaign finance reform, the best thing is disclosure. let folks know who is giving the money. i don't think the candidate with the most money wins. i think hillary clinton may have two billion dollars. i think the american people are smart enough not to elect her as president of the united states. mr. heath: you have 30 seconds to say anything you would like. mr. jindal: look, we thank you for having us. this is the most important election of our lifetime. this is about the future of america, getting off the path towards socialism. we have a great talker in the white house already. if talk is what we needed we would be on easy street. we need a doer, not a talker, we can't afford four more years of on-the-job training. i have the backbone. i have the experience, i have the bandwidth to get us through this. i'm asking you not to join just my campaign, i'm asking you to join a cause. let us believe in america