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television. c-span. i'm going to transition to the next panel, which is reporting on the hope. william douglas spoke earlier about logistics, credentialing. e correspondent from mcclatchy newspapers. i guess i am covering the presidential race as well as others with the conflict driven in discussions. and with climate wire for years a climate change reporter that his first foul i saw his byline we had to

know what he was writing about so it is a pleasure to meet him for the first time. we have a breaking news editor from "usa today". i believe i encourage on my dues. [laughter] and just about everything you can imagine on the widest circulated news of the day. we will dive right into the same topic from the perspective how they approach these issues as a singular event and also why don't we start with you.

>> we're looking at a lot of first like congress a political and cyclical that we're looking at there are stories you can do from the seven years from the previous people with climate and economics. with how the pope later this message opposition to ruth trickle-down economics with those political candidates and the base.

this is not just about catholics to have impact with politics we should not forget to leave out the jewish relationship with jewish leaders with the pope. and evangelical christians this says san it incredibly and outspoken on so many issues. so there is a lot of conflict stories. also looking at his visit precisely and to teach john everyone with a visit to a catholic charity and the

last thing and would like to raise is he spent most of his career in south america between south america and the north america as well. >> i think he is here to get us to think outside of the box. and americans are very secure with our current politics when donald trump but to focus on something else and a read a report from somewhere in the middle

east the temperature almost shadow world record 154 degrees. think about that. in this book talks about the rights of the unborn. he that you're talking about abortion. to have the right but with the developed countries with the consumerism. >> cry would really like to drive my suvs every where

but the rights the people who have not even been born yet to those who don't think outside the box or are very comfortable in their box. now to think about that for eight minutes among the global list as the developed world with the greenhouse gases to concentrate in the atmosphere in the first place as people started the industrial revolution, i've brought us a great deal of success to separate us from these people who suffer at 154 degrees and as the richest nation of the world to be the the way to share our time to get the world back under control that united nations would like to

hit of to centigrade the more than that would be very difficult. that is another part we're like you to think about but the third part of the box is people are going to lose everything. future generation there they go system, their language and their nation. there is a group of violent nation's if it goes over 10 feet we will lose everything. we're sitting down to a think what happens when a nation in disappears? misalliances it there in in the ocean? doesn't have sovereignty?

so i do have an acronym for a name but the island nations, there are quite a few of them there so shrilled nobody listens to them but they will post a basic problem that is a huge immigration problem. where will they go? should we care? not to a many politicians raise this issue and it isn't something people really want to hear that this man will talk about that. >> but to cover the visit there is so much to do for

reporters and publications. every not supposed to be covering the entire waterfront to dovetail on capitol hill and on the presidential campaign trail. like all good politicians the pope's are pulled and he comes to the united states at a time when his polling numbers have dropped. gallop had him dropping in a survey last month from 76% at about 59% which is where he was about the time he was elected. that is still spectacular but a little hit but ironically that was from conservatives he dropped from 72% at 45%. one could argue the decline is based is cyclical and his

message about poverty. it is interesting to see how his message plays out among the presidential candidates and members of congress. there were some who were not pleased the of the facilitator a good number of the delegation members including the "miami herald" or marco rubio were not thrilled about the pope's role in that. but that said he will be warmly greeted by the members of congress they are looking forward to having him on capitol hill. there will be fights to sell its closest to the aisle to shake his hand when he comes down the aisle but this intersection of his message

can't be under estimated. from the standpoint is what i am writing about but also it is important of what we call in washington, other real people think about the pope. we also have local responsibilities and our readers want to hear their voices in our stories about what they think. this is a moment. think back when john kennedy ran against nixon. to have allegiance to the vatican to impart knowledge on members of congress. that is a sea change of how we come to view religion and

politics how. that is remarkable but at the same time we have a message that is appealing to a lot of members of congress but it will be interesting to see with the "state of the union" address where the president may say one thing joe biden jumps up and claps and then sits down then the pope could say something that joe biden might not like an ant behavior may pop up i don't think it is going to be that sort of behavior but it could that climate change message it is those secret a good number of republicans have questions about climate change. the pope comes during the planned parenthood debate whether or not he

specifically discusses abortion but either way you will see the aftereffect whenever he says will be used as messages it in congress come on the trail, for whatever issue. is an incredible moment we will be covering. and to see how that plays out. >> to keep track in roll call is local coverage with the institutions that make up like the capitol police and everything we have seen or gather for of this event from secret service to capitol police, is they have never seen anything like this they are expecting up words from 1 million or 2 million people everywhere

around the national mall. it will be a ticketed the bench but they cannot keep kalee parents from amassing by the lincoln memorial if that is as close as they can get. this is something that donna mentioned, there are a lot of stories of pope john the rope that i remember from john paul ii to the climate change and the ridiculous and i wonder, ideas think for people who are cut out or not in the chamber, what kind of story uc vin washington that there are more reporters than can fit. where are they going for

stories? >> there is such an endless array of stories that i could think of i wish to have 400 reporters to a sign first - - first attack brought the souvenir story but almost every catholic church will said the delegations that can be followed. also there are stories to be done that has a lot covey issues and we're looking at a pope with the popularity of a rock star. twerking and he do to get more support or interest with catholics to rejoin the church? catholic education is on hard times and there are two aspects. first of all, allow higher education with these fine universities like georgetown and secondary schools as the

diocese have closed people have lost the secondary school so there is the important issue for those that are outside of capitol hill. in terms of being in washington d.c., flew is going to ruth come now for this? if he is such a superstar that others will want to be there as well to witness this incredible moment of history is what is, i think you can capturer crowds and security stories and also voices of people and what they're hoping to hear. >> adding to that, also something about recruitment

parcel of of profs problem with the secondary schools i of a product of catholic education it was almost exclusively the nuns. and we know there is a done a shortage co pay lost the peoples of those schools are closing can the philly or new york area taken interest of people becoming a priest or a nun? >> that has been hard to do in north america over the last decade and because the pope is so open on a short period of time that might appeal to younger generation here may not have taken an interest in serving of a

rise. >> over the years to watch sham participate based upon what he does and says about this particular issue you macy people working harder in the church i say this as a lifelong catholic so how do you reform an institution that sometimes feels it is sitting? is a huge. catholics are everywhere. on this issue the answer is yes tonight to get back to

when he says in addition to the catholic vote there is also the catholic social movement to a social progressive and in periods past in this country that catholics have been key to different social movements so now a group that says just like minimum-wage if you are a catholic business owner do you chase away you think about employees because of the teachings? there are also stories about how this pope interacts with the social movement about business owner's hand people who control other things like economics and education are the two that come to mind. >> what are lessons from

1979 during the carter years that effect was drowned out as the hostages were seized. is there anything we can pull from that visit? >> that was like a rock star. he can open in some boxes with the level of popularity he has gained said earlier could not. it does go back but the timing on this one is exclusive he has a big issue to come in to say things that politicians, the alliance of the throwaway culture to measure things are made with too much waste

because we have all the goodies and they don't you don't hear too many politicians talk of raw how we're dominated by special interest but this pope is likely to raise hell. >> to a that point, some candidates are speaking generically on the issues where the pope may call that income inequality so not necessarily ask for specifics may be of what forces clarification by addressing housing. he could steer the conversation because this is where it gets interesting. he is not running for congress or anything in

washington d.c. but by moral authority he can steer a and influence things. going back to the 1979 visit from the first panel the lady that talked about the schedules, this pope's seems very savvy about social media. he is reaching beyond us and the mainstream media. he is reaching the masses not going over our heads but supplementing the coverage by reaching out to. for some events like political conventions conventions, sporting events some do not like the of loggers because they cannot control them or they don't know who they are every he puts up the welcome sign trying to reach as many it

people as possible because people can have an influence on institutions. >> he said that we cannot say that before. [laughter] >> billions of people are coming for this speech to congress but talk about logistics' that to when we have inauguration day there is that inaugural committee that handles the purple title or that kind of thing but i understand they are handling the seats in the chamber but on the west front is there anything or the park service dealing like "this is it" going to be like fireworks with screens you have any idea? >> no. from my understanding of what congress can't control or pretend to control in

this case, very controlled access to the house gallery to the point where they told former members last week week, unless the speaker asked you specifically you cannot come. i don't remember too many times that ever happened. so we would have members and special invited guests from the different parts of the country. on though less frantic is controlled by conference that is coordinated with that cap call police that comes. >> that is right there but there will be so many people

but i think we learned our lesson with the purple title if you worked here for that delightful thing it was a way to channel people to the national mall also it was ted degrees said january and the president started to speak and people were still in line in the tunnel love to manning were trapped there. but with the announcement. >> but even that is a limited area and what they are expecting, they are thinking this is a spillover by the inauguration where people are gathering around they cannot even see the jumbo tri and images because the pope they go out to say

a few words. so flu wouldn't want that? to see the pope dead person? and congress or the secret service are all coordinating as best they can but there is only so much you can do when millions of people are potentially going to be there. >> it is easy to get swept up in the rock star status so what would be appropriately critical to be necessary during the visit? >> we just do our jobs. the first part of the question there is always a certain degree of hype to

cover something vetted is unique and unprecedented. obviously coming to the u.s. is not unique the congressional speeches a little different. in terms of critical you just write stories. but what he says will not go unchallenged space the situation if he talks about climate change, we will called the bush campaign or rick santorum and all of them to say what they think and they may not like that. put the same thing with poverty and with cuba. so to this degree the criticism is almost built-in. >> you are respectful because of a religious

leader, but at the same time don't just let him state his case to go unchallenged. >> the insurance policy is to have but then to be analyzing the but the mall will look klay with all of the crowds. one story you can do in advance of up pope's visit is not only about though logistics' and security if but the economic impact it with every hotel is already booked. i suspect that it is to make you could do the comparison contrast of his visit verses

the inauguration you could not get a hotel, the transportation situation in common there is a tourism story that definitely can be done the 2008 inauguration is the gauge in terms of washington d.c.. but then that is worth checking out. >> does anybody think they could get a ticket between washington and philadelphia you better books that now. >> process suggest for those

it if you go out of town during that time. people are already on airbnb to know the criticism is to know the subject to see if there percent criticize has followed his own record to contradict previous statements and if you don't know, you are really handicapped you can put as many voices did your article was you want but you need to know so if you get a chance

of saw him up close, what was that like? was their small talk or what were his gestures like? there are three personalized and his interactions with others. you cannot do that obviously but you talk to them after words. and you will have members and who is a giddy about leaving somebody? i am not sure but i think

there will be members you have interactions you can talk to get the thoughts or the readout. >> they're must and then some moments where an issue has popped up bin pop culture. the movie by the former vice president but the topic a little bit that they went to do antarctica with the well financed trip every journalist was cellist --

jealous that may have translated is there anything that compares? but the with the al gore raising this issue and maybe it is time to do something else but he has a moral streak that is very deep and he really pushed the issue and what we know about what he did there is a strong streak of denial that people don't want to think about this issue because it could require painful decisions to give up your material goods to change your lifestyle.

so i got your items. and yes al gore would delay a lot of that out and here we have someone following him who has probably watched him go into the buzz saw and he takes some risk with fat as well. we have more forest fires now in california than anybody has ever seen and now messing of the traffic which is sacrilegious by yet it goes up one day then goes down the next. the people say it is a big issue, paying attention.

but it will be interesting to see. he understands this issue and he wants to the of the bright side. in an interesting moment for my point of view. but with the pope's visit i am learning about how much it cost to travel to a country so with that financial burden to talk so

much the impact of this message so food takes charge of that? >> the cost is the united states will be different than the cost of cameron because washington d.c. in particular and new york are two cities that are very used to do handily enormous events so in terms of cost there is always a security cost and you can go to capitol police and the secret service to see how much has been spent then they bring in the occupancy

taxes with the department of revenue to read the compare similar events to get us sense of what money is coming in and and what is going out of there was the economy of scale it would be different if you look from that perspective to see a big difference there. >> what could be an interesting topic is the lobbying q the right before he comes here come the day do not have the infrastructure, we're talking about super bowl cities her capable to absorber incredible demand to with the infrastructure to guarantee safety.

q but is different with a direct contrast between water redoing and then the next couple of days inn in new york or philadelphia or washington as a fascinating story. >> we focused on the pope's visit to congress but it he is a listing other places added is the entry points for stories. in philadelphia he will go to a prison and he is rather outspoken on forgiveness and care of prisoners and social and criminal justice is a great opening on the day -- from the back of our system and reminded me we have one of the highest incarceration rates in this country of developed nations. this is a good entry point

some even if you cannot get access, there are so many other access points to allow a journalist to find a really great story strike if we see a picture of him carrying his own bags i would like to see it. >> any questions? >> the question i have is for my own purposes and but the policy issues, the cultural issue of a huge gathering of people. them like the day after the super bowl with an empty stadium.

so where do we go as a journalist? what do we tell in the wake of the visit? and all the is issues the next thing is whether or not he has the impact. did he break in the consciousness? so that is a great thing to follow up to keep track of the issues that he addresses of there is movement in the congress. they appear to have lost the religious survey but if there is a surge in membership or even something so simple as having a catholic church but then one week after they see if the pews are filled to see if

that had any of course, it is anecdotal not based on scientific evidence, but you get a feel if there is impact with those color stories sam policy follow-ups. >> you can come after words about planet change. i cannot remember one but that is the good question. >> but a lot of people for the singular event but that is to look bad before and after who will introduce

legislation? check out that member of congress find out their issues to address the policy expertise. if they will capitalize on that. the panel was day ready made the list with before and after the visit that will dominate some people's thinking of what they want to hear and have not been able to. >> don't pay a lot of attention to the internal

politics there is colonel sam bishops that do not think the pope is headed in the right direction and a great source of that is there is a catholic newspaper called the catholic reporter and they have some great story ideas to get as well lots of questions. >> were they going to do about the language and if he

gives speeches in spanish. so how are your organization's preparing for that? >> there is a lot of french and german speakers so we are in pretty a good shape that way. we do think there will be a great deal available spare mcfadyen is the idea to cover different ethnic groups. and hit it is growing among the hispanics are immigrant groups and look at where the

church is a growing angelou the pope will try to send the message to. but maybe he will speak spanish to connect that makes for a great story. >> i will address this to the experienced the reporters on the panel. but to be there in the crowd? what equipment do you bring? how do you file your story? , etc.

>> a crowd like this faith is not a problem. so the volume as restated earlier in the day the recorder but those are more likely and it has been easy and it is a shared a moment. filing could be a bit of a

problem if you're out on the mall obviously. you might want to pre-plan a coffeehouse of where you expect for that place to file. if you cover congress i would not bank on running outside and look for a place you can file even if it is against the wall early to avoid the tunnel of death. just get to the mall early with as little as toughish possibly can.

>> with the most recent inauguration was the cellphone tower overloaded you could not even been tweet something so you should be prepared for that. i had both my pad and phone with me when i was working in one that was not. but i never thought that i would say of the national mall. but it is something to think about. even if you catch a disposable phone for that event. and what's a fair ratings? that is horrible.

m&a have a crowd like this with the march on washington i have never seen such a collection of umbrellas standing alongside his should prepare for that when the paper gets wet remember japan won't work some of the proponent to have a pencil with a little sharpener like did your schoolbag. >> keep your eyes peeled for any mannerisms. lake the parent and child

but it is to take your eyes off and then what? what we want to accomplish is to let him as a multi dimensional human being an addition underneath all these trappings. what is he like? >> along the lines of what to bring it is as much as you can and still be professional with comfortable shoes and

clothing because if you spend time in washington is a temper it can be absolutely gorgeous or horrible you never know what you will get. you have to prepare for raid or sunshine or the cold blast. you don't want to be miserable. hot we're lucky he is coming in september instead of a january when one reporter got frostbite on her feet in 2009 inauguration. so be prepared with your own personal comfort. you may be required to be held for several hours or all day long. and it is a sport i i did not plan but a cat on a

bicycle and i got to my office about 530 in the morning and i got to the hill, by 6:00 and i just waited then i went outside and started to interview people and i was out and tell the time that the

president stopped speaking. that is how i planned for a larger defense as the all day in denver. there is no last-minute go here or go here. but to let them know what cannot be done logistically. then they will say we heard there was of family can you go find them? [laughter] it isn't always that easy. just to make that clear. >> i hate to say this but as a disaster reporter think through of a contingency plan if something bad happens and there's all kinds of bad from the stampede to a weather even

and like last night in chicago where and a tent blew down and. >> how much a kid yourself, how are you thinking it through? and will be different depending upon your organization is to mix the have people coming in to town and to give them guidance. has anybody seen the traffic map? it is road closures or anything around the mall. >> probably not until it gets closer that is probably still being worked out. as you know, because with the d.c. government sometimes they don't share the same idea of what is

worthy to be closed so i'm sure there is negotiations going on about that. >> you expect inauguration type of closures? >> yes. >> we knew those one week before. >>

any other questions? thank you so much. it has been a pleasure to talk in this manner and thank you for your time. jason, i want to thank you for doing a terrific job moderating these last two panels. i appreciate it. i want to thank all of you for being here, and for those of you on c-span, thank you for watching. this is the national press foundation at the wilson center. this briefing has been presented with our partners, cq-roll call, and our partners at indiana university. thank you so much. >> thank you.

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