kirsten powers how the left is speech, what she is calling liberal attempts to shut a variety of issues. host: good morning and it's the 13th and st the headlines today front page f the "wall street journal" reporting that china is currency. to adjust the plunge has jolted confidence china's growth. "usa today" reporting on president obama's call to jimmy carter after he issued a statement after he cancer.d he's battling the final preparation underway for today's opening for the iowa state fair with more than 20 presidential candidates expected visit over the next

week and a half. the latest questions involving clinton and private e-mail account and new questions trust and credibility. this comes as a poll showing moved rnie sanders has ahead which of course is the first of the nation presidential primary. what impact has had this had on her campaign. republican and for 0001 independents 202-748-80002. at us an e-mail at journal c-span.org. a lot of stories involving clinton including this hillary tico and turns to mail probe

huma huma. he 2016 democratic frontrunner that aberdeen long considered had her own eper unusual count and an arrangement even for top brass state department. he latest poll that's been getting a lot of attention, ahead of sanders in new hampshire. senator sanders taking the over in new hampshire. the frontrunner has trailed, leading hillary clinton.

reporters are just more him.usiastic from so what do you think of all of this? to your phone calls first on the democrat's line. what impact if any has had this on the campaign? caller: good morning, steve. do i think, it i think it all.none first of it's another republican witch unless she knowingly ook she's unmarked e-mails or whatever the heck they were and sent them to someone who looking at ve been i don't think it's going to impact her at all. this is just another

these fake scandals by fox news. host: why is that? caller: because i think there is nothing here, steven. a democrat and i'm for hillary. my wife,entire family, daughter, my nieces and nephew, the hillary camp. unless there is something criminal, which i don't think it even if it's just a technical violation of the law, actually ould be, we think that loretta lynch will prosecute? it.ubt host: okay. mark, thank you srefp. we'll check in with charley cook from executive magazine on that very question involving the legality. ut first this from the daily bee. they weren't ordinary secrets most but some of the classified material the u.s.

government has had after months actions,s and delaying hillary clinton has turned over her private server to the as this t of justice controversy has grown since the spring. repeatedly denied she placed classified information in her personal e-mail while secretary of state. her team also denied she would over her server to investigators. now both of those assertions overturned. she has little choice since is on her staff eone violated federal law involving classified of materials. the intelligence communities nspector general reporting to congress that it found several violations of security policy in illary clinton's personal e-mail. that story from daily beast. michael joining us from arizona. your take on all of this, mike. yes, good morning.

host: good morning. i see that hillary has her little problems with e-mail and that's only from observation talking to my neighborhood, if hey're for hillary they're strongly for her. e-mails aren't going to make any impact. but i think when the onversation comes around more serious matters of government, and is was responsibilile for her attitude or as far as i'm to return, she's had comments that cuba

must free its political risoners without any comment that the united states has more other in jail than any country in the world. i think that kind of thing is to her imbalance. is her thing president,ip with the president clinton. they're impression still acting like they're man and wife and living that way i strongly believe that that condition is just not and in that sense she's having her husband promoting a about their family relationship. host: michael from arizona, thank you very much from the call. we have this tweet on our c-span wj.e at

caller: e-mails are a huge issue. she has lied so many times. host: tips on deleting e-mails e-mail book that hillary clinton wanted to read is the story. the latest batch of e-mails askingd one from clinton to borrow a book called "send." and eople e-mail so badly how to do it better. why she ad not said requested the book but includes some advice that is particularly a lot of the d ontroversy over her e-mail.tion alley are chapters including chapter six, the e-mail that can land you in jail. entitled "how to delete stays deleted."

charley clark is joining us and story for he government executive magazine. thank you for being with us. here. to be host: let's go beyond the headlines and ask you legally what potentially is hillary or any of her staffers facing? well, the question would be e-mails contain classified information that was o marked at the time that they ended up on her home server, that's what the inspectors are al and the fbi investigating. the fact that they decide to from their e server home that they hadn't turned months ago when it was equested from members of congress speaks to the issue whether the department mishandled classified information. keep in mind there is debates over whether certain ypes of information should be classified or not.

people within a department disagree. people of different ranks disagree and even the inspectors general disagree. the question is whether it was at the time. host: this comes at the same ime at the same time when tray gowdy looking into benghazi. say s what he had to yesterday on cnn. about damn time was my initial reaction. we asked her in march to turn it over to a neutral attached arbitrator. smiling that ut they're voluntarily turning it over. i doubt it seriously that they to turn her server over. if they had jurisdiction they go t need to ask, they just get it. >> hillary clinton certified penalty of perjury that

she has turned over all of the to her time at the state department. do you take her at that word? well, i read that statement to read egyptian high row tkpwhreufices. red ould be a blinking light for to you be suspicious of it. on information and belief, she believes this to this is true. explain to me -- with the legal perspective tell me your concern about that. >> i'll be happy to. did she go through the e-mails. 60,000 did she go through each one of them and separate record? versus public no. her attorney did it. fiduciaryey who has a and ethical obligation to her and not to the tax payier but to her. so how in the world can she say

hat the public record is complete when she herself did not go through and look at each e-mails.ose we found 15 that she did not turn over to the state for a ent, so we know fact that that statement is not correct. remember the 15, the nine in that cindyix in part blumenthal gave us that the state department had. where were those? how did her lawyer miss those 15? i don't believe the statement. it was to me it was to the her al judge and i'll let her handle that. host: charley clark is joining phone.e on the fbi look into this. where do you think -- maybe the question is, what questions are asking hillary and her staff? >> well, eventually what has to come out and i think the state inspector general

would likely be looking into this although he wasn't around is what arrangement was made for the security of this private server in the in 2009, which is arrangement.l federal a lot of the employees at lower levels recent the fact that the head of the a special arrangement for herself when she have to pend a lot of time complying with e-mail rules. acts from record 1950 does not have much teeth in enforced to the letter and the national archives or records administration has an approach to preserving e-mails call the cap and the agencies have a lot of discretion as to e-mails have to automatically be preserved and sifted n in turn are

through. not everything created becomes a public record. fbi is concerned with classified of information. the question -- the other thing hillary's attorney has said that the server has already wiped clean. so there will be some questions hether the technicians can resurrect anything from there try.they should probably it's really on the edge of the law. not real clear, plus congress passed and updated the federal records account i think president obama signed in november 2014 so this is long after hillary is gone. so that's another reason i think they're focusing on handling information which may not involve the secretary herself. jennifer paul marry capacity in at

hillary clinton campaign issuing statement saying this kind of nonsense comes with the territory of running for president. essentially trying to downplay dismiss these latest stories. your reaction. pattern well this is a of the clintons going back to water and travel gate. they recent the imposition. entitled to try to protect it. suspect that somebody in the political camp was just noticing her drops in the polls and state state polls and the bad numbers on trustworthiness and aybe thought it was time to just turn it over. it over,that they turn they're still not evidence of kind of nefarious crimes that they are looking for. here may be some new information on the timing of

ben stkpwaz stkeu actions. this is where the campaign may point when they say this is nothing. well the trustworthiness you can't really say that's nothing. idea there is some kind f crime here, that may or may not be true. but so far it looks like it's nothing. sharing yourou for insights with us on this thursday morning. appreciate it. this is all playing out in the ourt of public opinion but facts come out before jumping to conclusions. next from nashville, tennessee. good morning, morgan. caller: good morning. hi. i was just thinking that you know the e-mails are nothing than just one more piece of years and years and

years of the establishment in control.ng what you really see here is stablish politics, establishment media, losing control. and that has everyone scared.really they have control. t's a two party system with a few people who decide who the rest of us will get to vote for. we get to vote from one of two choices that they decide upon. primaries this year has just turned that on end. the se you know what, we people, we're done. we don't trust any of them. wow.edia, this has been just eye opening hat we see here. you know, it's just hillary is the only erson that's going to be the democratic nomination. it's disgusting. morgan, i want to read to

you front page story from the "washington post" which taps you're saying and get your reaction. saying trump and sanders filling a need. here he a portion of what he this morning. this has become the summer of the political outsider as a cast f enter lobar dominate the presidential process. fuelled by people's anger. they're gaining traction bicep operating themselves from the economic system that many view that is rigged against them. hear and read what phil rutger says this morning, agree? agree but i nly lobars, hardly enter is that what he says? say bernie sanders is

what he's saying now. catch on to how we how we don't have a voice. what's different from this year and from every other had this rigged system? media don't need the mass anymore. people, ople, 27,000 20,000 people, 70 -- i guess it people showed 0 up in three days for bernie with a media blackout. i mean, nobody was talking about sanders. but 100,000 people showed up. the his was just through internet. and media has lost control you know why they support

hillary clinton. iota? think they care one no. but she's got big money. that's why the mass media is that always candidates have money behind them. buy and then ad the voting booth, we are under siege now. either stand up as a people overthrow in mass and this two party system. siege and ople under the revolution has begun and i suggest people go out and look is sayingrnie sanders and stop with the labelling and the division and let's do this, people. thank you very much for the call. we appreciate it. tennessee.lle, senator sanders will be among fair on dates at the

saturday. he's scheduled mid-afternoon. it all begins today. couple of minutes we'll check in with a reporter on how his is shaping up to be an state fair. we hope you tune in. front page of the washington e-mails had inton data drawn from spy atellites -- joining us s karl rom beverly springs, west virginia, republican line.

what impact do you think this campaign? >> i don't know where to start with this. clintons are in a class all by themselves when to white color crime. the all the way back to rose law firm records that she investing a thousand dollars and two months later $100,000. into like i say, they're in a class to hemselves when it comes white color crime. recently setting plutonium to the soviet union watch.s under her 80% ofssia controls about plutonium. i tell you it goes back to obama

letting the justice department using the justice department as private law firm to protect him and the clintons did the ame thing when they were in power, the lady that was protected them to the hilt. from tennessee said, this stuff has got to stop. j.has this tweet. after 20 months congress wanted then k at her e-mails and she decided to delete thousands, volumes.ks yesterday afternoon former resident jimmy carter in a statement announcing he's battling cancer. until 1981, m 1977 1 term before losing his re-election to ronald reagan and carter center. he's going to receive treatment for the did he skpaoez president obama had phoned jimmy carter

and saying that michelle and the rooting for you. president speaking with jimmy night on behalf of himself saying that in a you have earlier that the determination that you have you're fore and resilient as they come. we are rooting for you. brandon from new haven connecticut. welcome to the program. caller: hi. acceptsanders supporter as well. think that reflects -- it's ocked in whether you support hillary for the most part and if you're a republican then the are just further evidence that she is a criminal. to be president. if you're a hillary supporter say, there is it no legal grounds yet and

nothing's clear cut so we don't done anything wrong so this is just a hillary basher. if you're a democrat and not a hillary supporter then it seems distraction.a about time taken talk these e-mails and scandals when about uld be talking issues. if you're talking about bernie sanders it's all about the he raises and the numbers that he's able to get at these money he's able to raise without using super money and large company donations. host: thanks for the call. obama fit in this h.r.c. mess? "wall street journal" that vice president biden is sounding on his allies. partice president is using

of his vacation to talk about a as some ial bid the rats ask him to enter race. signalving the strongest actively considering on making a run for the presidency. his options. people familiar with the matter saying that he should expect his decision next month. next is peter joining us on the republican line. morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: fine, thank you. are you? caller: i think it's kind of simple. i think hillary was kind advising huma on what to do on weiner -- host: next to tom on harrisburg, pennsylvania. good morning. caller: hi. i'm a solid bernie sanders

supporter. i foresaw this. one of these progressive progressive rich people. i'm a very working class a ton of e who spent my life devoted to civil rights. pick up the paper, everyone's trying to drag bernie down. reason why i got involved is because i think illary clinton gives bad advice. she got bad advice about this server. and then that speaks to her leadership. i could possibly go towards biden. but i believe that this female just going to continue and as a solid democrat support the matter whonominee no is. but i obviously believe that she be the nominee and

dropping. up host: who will be the nominee? will be bidenk it because i think that's -- i don't think joe biden is run against hillary. i think he's sitting back i'm thinking saying i think she's good going to be in the trouble and i don't public is ready for joe biden is anders and a man for all the problems he has gone through personally he and he's been a great vice president and he could look ste world and he in making clarity decisions that would help this country. i think he would provide steady and i think obama has bee a great job and he would n extension of a third term of obama. host: thank you for the call. wantt to take a moment you

to read online dealing with our peter baker and girl."e "it's a let me read a portion of what he rites this morning --

host: some relatives pictured also in the page in the "new story.mes" i wanted to share that with you. your calls and comments of hillary clinton and of her e-mail. lorraine, good morning. caller: hello. hurt her at it will she thinks that if it won't there is a big cover-up. have turned hould things over right away and else like this. then i won't think anything was wrong.

people are why looking at donald trump. not backed by any lobbyist nd not backed by anybody and they're scared of donald trump reason. of that or not gotten a lobbyist scares body and that people. if we would have done something he just lifts his leg up wrong and they interpret it wrong. the call.k you for one of the official announcements from speaker of house, john boehner on confirmation that hillary linton was turning over her server. he said "it's about time. sheprevious statements that possessed no classified information were patently untrue mishandling of classified

information must be fully investigated." story ws max with this saying that hillary clinton team. to hire a legal says got a major problem pat buchanan and the democratic major headache. former senator, vice president joe biden. do you think he should run? i'm not sure because mr. biden has a lot on his plate recent loss of his son. i really little bit think he's got enough on his personally i e hink that he's actually time

for retirement. host: what about hillary clinton? caller: in so far as hillary clinton is concerned i don't think in the long run she's charges are nd going to be effecting her. couple of consider things, this justice department is not exactly much when it to pursuing actions against cabinet appointees. we saw that with the alleged irs after gation of going conservative groups and we of holder was held in congress after the eath of the border guard because of fast and furious. sorts you've got these of individuals protecting and justice that the department itself hasn't changed

the new much since nominee's been appointed. anywheret see it going in congress really. effectless when it comes to enforcing things. getting your so facebook.on n the democrats line from wisconsin. good morning to you, kate. caller: hi. it's going to have a negative impact on her campaign. news cycle.p in the negative about it. we don't know -- i don't know if it was legal or illegal and at point is anybody going to call hillary a hero when we not ze her server was hacked by the chinese like the

rest of the u.s. government servers. maybe she protected things. as part of the logic that hrc has turned over her server probably means it's been sanitized. congress is investigating her involved and i is top secret -- to remind you what hillary

clinton said at the united nations here he a portion of her statement. the entire statement available library.ideo >> when i got to work as secretary of state, i opted for my personal o use e-mail account which was allowed because ate department i thought it would be easier to from my t one device work and for my personal e-mail instead of two. back it would have been if i used a second e-mail a second d carried phone. but at the time this didn't seem issue. second, the vast majority of my ork e-mails went to government employees at their government ddresses which meant they were captured and preserved system at the the state department. hird, after i left office, the state department asked former

secretaries of state for our in providing copies work-related e-mails from our personal account. i responded right away and my e-mails that work-related be hich totalled roughly 55,000 printed pages even though i knew that the state department already had the vast majority of them. we went through a thorough process to identify all of my e-mails and delivered them to the state department. i chose not to keep my private-personal e-mails, planning chelsea's funeral r my mother's arrangements and condolences as routines and family acations and other things you typically find. no one wants their personal e-mails made public and i think

and people understand that respect that privacy. unprecedented the step of asking that the state all my nt make work-related e-mails public for see.one to host: just to remind what she said back in march of last year campaign turning over her e-mails and server to fbi investigators. getting your comments including on facebook a lot have you weighing in. from mike who will says, we'll weather the storm. and ry still has my vote america needs her experience. she'll says, next thing be funneling campaign found her defense attorneys. impact. the media is on her side. steve, independent line, did morning. on all this. caller: it's not going to have ny effect whatsoever either way. we're just being lied to by the democrats and the republicans

and the news media. did not turn over her server. the server she used while she secretary of state after she a second he went to server and had that information igrated, that's the server they're turning over. first he turns over the server the information can't be recovered. she's ody who says turning over her server is just lying to us. call. thanks for the joining us.ent caller: hello, sir. how you doing. host: doing great of the how are you? caller: she probably say -- i with say she has nothing to to y about and i'm going vote for her even though i'm a republican. host: why? caller: because i think i like president.rst woman

heading to cuba. a story "the washington post" flag and lowering their guard is the piece. could set the tone with the new relationship with cuba. kerry arrives here on saturday, to raise the stars and the highest be ranking american official to set the island in 70 years. memphis, obert from tennessee. caller: good morning. i appreciate you taking my call. where ling from memphis it's hot and muggy. i think this hillary clinton blown problem has been out of proportion and i hope and it will not effect her and if it does it's going to effect her that much. also want to say my prayers and my woeuf's prayers hoping

he gets into office and also want to pray for president carter also. host: thanks again. at thedline jimmy carter age of 90 says he's battling changing his schedule in order to accommodate his routine. this s andrew joining us morning from hack insack new jersey. good morning andrew. aller: basically my comment is concerning hillary. it's irrelevant. cleared and was acceptable for her

the two separate communication devices. host: you think the controversy s irrelevant is that what you're saying, andrew? caller: yes. asically the couldn't verse -- well, it's not irrelevant, it's news every day. so therefore i stand corrected. pointing that out. away.it's not going to go it will not go away. party is going to hammer her with everything possible, plus legitimate nvestigation, investigatory analysis of actually what went on. host: thanks for calling. hillary had no choice about turning over her server. it is spin. fbi will seize it and that would

worse. chelsea clinton will be in the d.c. area next month. visit to s on her politics and pros. the story is available online at "washington post".com. they want to stick to the script it sounds like chelsea shaping book tour is up like highly scripted and a tedious. announcing that the 35-year-old will grace its stacks on promote the 24th to "it's your world" and comes with a list of caveats no-nos to make a writer proud. world.linton's there will be no remarks from a q & a r let alone session. bringing even bother will not y pick, she

sign any photos. there will be no post photographs. next is della joining us from new york city. line.rats you get the last word on this. your thoughts about the e-mail issues. caller: yes. about the e-mails, hillary should have known better than to a personal computer for her government information. to sat on the committee impeach nixon when nixon was missing for a paragraph and he was impeached that. now she is expected to be believed because she didn't anything from her personal server? unbelievable. lying.s a record of she lied about the rose law firm

document that's turned up in the white house that never were available when he was running office. you have to trpb the page. she's part of the 20th century 21st century the now and we have better candidates than that available now to us. going to be a woman, no, i don't think we just vote for her because it's a woman's vote. no. we should vote for the best person and best candidate available. who we should vote for and she should go back to and sit out there with er grandchildren and that's it it's time to turn the page. host: thank you for the call&michael has this point on our twitter page. "good to see finger pointers are morning."l force this quick look at other headlines front page. china steps in to calm the

front page of nd journal", and et "usa today" china fumbles and wall street stumbles. from des ining us moines. she's a writer as the iowa state today.ets underway more than 20 candidates will be attending and most will be what's called the soap box sponsored by the des moines register. us.k you for being with >> thanks for having me. host: how significant of an this on the iowa political calendar. it's a pretty big deal. the state fair is 11 days and than a million people attend it. stop for any l candidate who wants to be seen cross section of

iowa iowans. a history of the box. and the soap >> sure. the state fair is in iowa. it's a big deal. eople come from all over the state. they camp for 11 days. for more thang on 100 years. the first time a president showed up was in the 19 fifties the register has been doing his the soap box for more than a decade. we've had the president, president obama did not do it but former caucus candidates will huckabee.ith mike it's sort of a significant year. every but particularly in a caucus bit.it ramps up quite a host: this is a chance for the candidates to mix and mingle and is eaten everything on the stick of the iowa state

correct?that >> yeah. the caucuses are all about face personalampaigning and interactions and there is really not a better place to do that fair.the state of course, yeah, they'll be on a g maybe pork chops stick or corn dogs or most of will see the state party booths over at one of the buildings. president was hear as a brought his children and they rode the carnival s and played games. obviously the fair is a wonderland for children and we of candidates will be doing that this year. mitt we remember when romney spoke at the soap box and "corporations ne are people too" and it became a his candidacy,in correct?

>> yeah, that was in 2011. that was before he was the nominee. there are some hecklers who will be there. for the most part people get to say their peace and there is format. they get a speech for 20 minutes and pick whatever they want to do. some have done q & a's. but in 2011 that with you a for romney.ent host: how are you and others covering the state fair in terms of political equation with these or idates over the next 10 11 days? >> we're a full court press i better term.k of a we have more than a dozen there and ut photographers. chasing them all over

the state. talk about this every four years but one of the long standing traditions for the stop by and see the butter cow. for those who don't know the story, could you please explain he tradition behind this and exactly who is the sculptor that creates it every year at the state fair? oh, man. so my butter cow lore is some of not as great as the other people at the bevery year she does a cow and some other scene this year. muffinar she's doing the man. and they've done field of dreams last sum was a butter some kwraoyears ago. she works in a refrigerated

degrees and an 50 walk by and see her making her the butter uches on cow. scene.ite the her work is available online at des moinesregister.com. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. at the state fair speeches at the the soap box. get the full schedule online at c-span.org. when he come back, artie berman joining us. book.out with a new is joining us later with her new book "the

silencing." we are back in a moment. stay with us. -span is in des moines for the iowa state fair and coverage of candidates.tial our live coverage is on c-span, radio and c-span.org. here's the schedule. 11:30 rning starting at it's republican mike huckabee and martin democrats o'malley on five. republican friday jeb bush.

republican rick santorum followed by democrats accepteders at 3:00 and on sunday afternoon, carson at five and george pataki at 5:30. road to the the white house. weekend on the c-span networks politics, books and american history. the iowa live from state fair, presidential des dates speak at the moines register candidate soap box. we'lling saturday at noon hear from republican rick antorum and sunday afternoon more live coverage with candidates ben carson t five followed by george pataki. missouri senator on her life and career.l 10:30, themorning at

recent book "america." n c-span3 sunday morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern with many presidential candidates visiting learn a state fair we'll about the fair's history and tradition on the stop to the oad to the white house as we look back at the 2008 presidential race and saturday evening at 6:00 on the civil war, historian and author on the mobile bay, the of ory and closing of one the confederacy's last major ports. get our complete schedule at c-span.org. "washington journal" continues. want to welcome back contributing 's a writer and new book "give us the ballot, modern struggle for in america." thank you for being us. >> thank you. host: you say the following the

court's ruling erb you'd eight months after president re-election underscored what should be the most settled right in democracy the right to remains the most contested. an interesting paradox we re celebrating the 50th anniversary the voting rights act. it's been e time under and been broadly attack. this ink in an all progress would have settled the issue, but instead the more seem to make as a country when it comes to ssues like race and political power the more unsettled the comes.o vote e has a long track record of opposition to the voting rights

act. was a young law justice william rehnquist. tests nistered literacy voters. and hispanic when he was put on the court irst by nixon and chief justices reagan was skeptical of law. rights then he works for the reagan luncheddepartment which its revolution against civil rights laws especially the act and roberts was writing memo after memo limit the power of the voting rights act and had a huge fight with congress over this and ultimately lost. decades see is three later when roberts is chief of the supreme court he's able to gut the act and do

to do in s not able the 1980s. a. : when you refer to v.r. voting alking about the rights act. let me share with you what the issued.ustice he said the following -- >> he says that voting still exists but then he consistently downplays prevalence. what happened in that ruling is struck down the formula

that those states had to approve their voting changes from the government. they blocked 3,000 voting changes from come into effect this provision known as section five of the voting rights. that showed that voting iscrimination didn't end in 1965. what we saw is that there was a long record before the congress 2006 when they reauthorized v.r. a. since 2006, congress in what we saw from there have been 468 new voting restrictions introduced in the united states and half the states in the had made it harder to vote. whether shutting early registration drives or requiring government issued i.d., so all

this was happening at the moment saying n roberts was that the strong protections weren't needed. lot of cognitive because i was reporting as the supreme court was saying that the voting was a thing of the past. host: you go into great detail what transpired into the johnson while the house. the civil rights act signed in 1964 and the voting rights act and include this section, you said when john f. advisors urged l.b.j. not to push the act the new what ent replied, well, the hell is the presidency for. manipulative be but he was unexpectedly passionate. >> what's interesting was that opponent for civil rights but also someone

mexican-american school so he understood the groups andion facing someone once he became president constituency.nt hecountry. he realized these problems had to be solved. vote wased that the something that would give people the ability to change their circumstances. martin luther king comes to the white house in late 1964 after he has just won the nobel peace prize and he says to johnson, we need a voting rights act and johnson says, we cannot do it this year i have all of this society to push this legislation to push. king goes to selma. the atrocities of bloody sunday happen and johnson's shrewd enough to realize that even though he had told king one thing, the country was outraged and that he needed to start pushing this. the justice department started

drying up a bill before selma but after some a johnson's administration moved quickly and he gave his famous speech to the congress where he talked about the voting rights act. six months after the atrocities in selma we had a voting rights bill. and i quick, effective think it was an example of government at its best. host: didn't president johnson encourage john lewis and dr. king and others to make these demonstrations public to force the country's hand? guest: he did. he said something to the effect of what fdr told activists a long time ago, make me do it. the more you can dramatize the existence of discrimination the easier it will be to win public support. it does not mean lbj was always crazy about the demonstrations. he wanted to exercise control but nonetheless, the demonstrations were helpful in

allowing him to push this bill through. there's an interesting antidote where lbj meets with john lewis before the voting rights act is signed in 1965. he tells lewis, you have to grab and get by the balls all of these guys registered. once lbj realized the voting rights act would be signed, he became passing it -- became passionate and aggressive in pushing his justice department to enforce the law. he realized this was a transformative thing. at that registering millions of african-american voters and millions of other voters would transform american democracy. host: that conversation and other recordings are on our website c-span.org. c-span radio has been letting you listen into those. very interesting conversations

between president johnson, key advisors and members of congress. check it out at c-span.org. open (202) are 748-8001 for republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . let's go to tony on the democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. about all of these voting rights changes and i out inlack people came the numbers they did because of president obama. i know the vote is important but i think this has a lot to do about nothing. out in the numbers theywhen the blacksd voted for president obama, it scared the republican party so they are going through all of these things.

unless someone does something to address the needs of the black people in the united states, black people will not come out in those numbers again. no candidate out here right now that is addressing or even talking about us. new voting think the restrictions are driven by a fear of changing demographics. if you look at the 2008 a lector at -- electorate, it was the most diverse. a lot of people participated, participant -- particularly younger people. the new restrictions are an attempt to make the electorate older, whiter and more conservative as opposed to younger, more diverse and progressive. i see current attempts to make it harder to vote as a response to the obama election. this kind of thing, the attempt to restrict the right to vote, is not new. decadesned for many

after the voting rights act but the effort took on new urgency after obama turned out a new electorate. host: walter, republican line. good morning. caller: i think this guy is a liar, a distorted of facts and i can't believe you would let -- host: we will cut him off when he crosses a line. guest: everyone is entitled to their own opinion. is that not what makes democracy so great? host: please be respectful of the guest. they come on their own time. we want to have a civil conversation. caller: good morning. i wanted to start off, the republicans on this issue of a voter id have been nothing but frauds. they had been frauds for years but no one has called them out on it. when the democrats were in motivethey used to have

voter id. why with the republicans be against that? they were always against motor voter id. laws: first about voter id and then about the republican party more broadly. there has been no evidence of voter impersonation to justify new voter id laws. there were one billion votes cast since 2000 but only 31 cases of impersonation in that period of time. i do not think this is a major problem. i don't want to seem like i am being unnecessarily partisan. one of the things i show in the book as there is a long history of republican support for voting rights, particularly the voting rights act, passed in 1965 with republican support. the reauthorization's of the act in 1970, 19 75, 1982 and 2006 or

signed by republican presidents, passed with overwhelming republican support. republicans have been key partners in the voting rights act, the enforcement of the act. the current effort to make it harder to vote which is driven in large part by the republican party i think is an example of the party turning its back on the voting rights act and i think one of the things the republican party should be most proud of. host: in the book you say the 2008, earlyfter voting shrunk from 14 days to eight days in florida and from 35 to 11 days in ohio. ." on theates ban voting sunday before the election when black churches held souls to the polls rallies. guest: people who voted early were more likely to vote for the

president and particularly core democratic constituencies that do not always turn out. having more time to vote, not just limiting voting the tuesday before the election. the souls to the polls was critical because that's when black churches would mobilize constituencies to get to the ballot box. i think the attempt to cut early voting was an attempt to make it harder for constituencies to vote. saying, 35 days is too much time, too expensive, let's make it 20. florida cutting early voting from 14 days to eight days and eliminated the sunday before the election did not make a lot of sense. we saw seven our lines in florida on election night what he 12. obama said after his election we have to fix that. host: you write about the long lines in 2004 that might have given john kerry the win in ohio compared to george w. bush. guest: what happened in ohio in

2004, there were not nearly enough voting machines in core democratic areas. if you went to vote in inner-city cleveland or columbus at a predominantly democratic, predominantly minority district, there were long lines because they were too few machines. a republican precinct in the suburbs, many more machines and lines were shorter. in places like cleveland and columbus, there were lines that stretched for hours and hours. many people left the polls without voting. 174,000 people left without voting. a study found after that election was that african-americans waited 52 minutes to vote in ohio compared to 18 minutes for whites. there is no doubt african-americans were more likely to wait longer, more likely to leave because of long lines and that had an impact on

the result. guest: the book by ari berman, the modern struggle for voting rights in america. kurt is next from alabama, independent line. caller: good morning. take -- thanko mr. berman. i don't understand what is it that black people did -- thank ,r. particularly black people in america did to deserve injustice -- and justify the never ending systematic racism from voting rights, criminal justice, education, health care. we have never gotten the rights and promises we were supposed to have gotten. i don't understand. can anybody explain to me? , particularly black people in americawhat it is that we've doo deserve that? guest: i think the caller makes a good point that racism has

always been a problem in our country -- our society and it remains a problem. structural racism within all aspects of society. the voting rights act was about power, about giving people who had been shut out of the system power they did not have before and that meant taking away power from some other people. when african-americans were registered and voted in large number, that threatened the structure of the segregated south, the structure of white supremacy more broadly in america. that peopleant was were threatened by the emergence of new political power. i think they were particularly threatened by it after the election of the first black president. a lot of people thought obama election would end the voting rights debate because his election was in many ways a pinnacle of the voting rights act. just as minority groups gained

political power that's when he saw the backlash increase. it's unfortunate that the right to vote, which should be the most settled right, remains the most contested. i think the reason it remains the most contested is because there is real power associated with the vote so when certain people get the right, other people feel threatened by that. ,ost: one of our viewers saying i have been a bit skeptical about early voting but one day during most people possible working hours -- most people's working hours is not good either. guest: the fact that we vote on tuesday is a remnant of an earlier era when people were farmers.

during normal business hours they benefit tremendously from something like early voting. host: linda from stanley, new york, good morning. caller: kind of just stole my thunder. here in new york, we have one day to vote in november. ever seen the weather in november in new york? california, they are registering illegal immigrants to vote when they get their drivers license.

what do you think they are going to do with those voter ids? thank you. guest: i don't believe that is actually true that california is registering illegal immigrants. york, that is where i am from and i think new york is behind the curve on early voting. nearly half the states have a form of early voting. 15 states have same-day voter registration where you can register and vote on the same day. i think those reforms combined increase voter turnout. we know places like wisconsin, minnesota, vermont, they have voter turnout that is 10% higher than states that don't have it. i would love to see newi think k adopts some of these reforms and be a leader on this issue. host: "before the 2000 presidential election, florida sent 67 county election supervisors a list of 58,000

alleged felons to purge from the voting rolls. blacks made up only 15% of registered voters in the state but 44% of those on the purge list." guest: this was a huge issue in the run-up to the 2000 election that florida said tens of thousands of people were felons who were registered from the vote who needed to be purged and what happened was that list was inaccurate and disproportionately african-americans who were prevented from voting. people showed up on election day , people who had voted their whole lives. i tell the story of one guy who veteran whon gulf worked at hospital and was told he was a felon and could not vote. this happened across the state of florida. after the election -- he was there with his 10-year-old son and he was told he was a felon and later found out.

fellow he was confused with. the felony occurred at the moment when the registered voter was in the persian gulf. the crime could never have been committed and he was not the person committing the crime but he was purged from the voting rolls. after the election because of a lawsuit and a major study that 12,000 people were wrongly purged from the voting rolls in bush's 2000, 22 times margin of victory. the purge could have determined the election. small manipulations in the process, things like motor purges -- voter purges could make a difference in close elections. host: another viewer with this recommendation. change the voting day to april 16. guest: keeping it in november and give more people time to

vote would be my suggestion. caller: good morning. on. has been going redistricting, the lost some of the republican governors have laws some of-- the the republican governors have put in place. i call it closet racism. you just had a caller from new york, she put in a snip about most republicans work. i'm a democrat and have worked all my life. my son was a democrat who died in pakistan. he was a democrat and he worked all his life. , this day andting blatant.this to be so

politicians just get away with it. my little snip as being a democrat, i am so glad i'm smarter than half the people in the united states. agree in the sense that vote,s on the right to attempt to limit the voting rights act are not new. they have been happening since the act was passed there have been efforts to rican -- to weaken the power of that law. i think that these efforts escalated after the election of president obama as a reaction to the progress we have made as a country. vote, attempt to limit the voting rights act are noti think it ist the right to vote has become politicized. in the book i mentioned there was a strong consensus in congress for the voting rights act. even republican presidents who were not crazy about the act signed free authorizations of the vra.

i think it is unfortunate that in 2015 on the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act, instead of celebrating the progress we have made as a country as a result of the vra, we're talking about efforts to limit the right to vote. host: this is from lauren and you can share your tweets at c-span wj. to californiago illegals out how many are voting. guest: i do not think there is evidence. they are here to work. they do not want to show up and vote and get deported because they committed a felony by voting. this idea that voting by illegal aliens is rampant, there is no evidence that they are and no reason why they would want to vote either. illegals are voting. guest: i do not think there is evidence. they are here to work. they dothere is no data to backp and does not make sense why they would want to do this and jeopardize their status of being here. host: sondra is next on the

independent line. caller: i am in favor of the photo id for verification. to go to the doctor, you have to be very tolerant -- you have to be verified. i am not in favor of using social security cards to vote or same-day registration because people have used their children's social security cards to set up charge accounts or get utilities. i believe wisconsin has same day registration and in the 2012 , action it was shown on tv reporter was interviewing a lady of color who said she hoped this did not take long because she had to get back to chicago. two busloads in wisconsin to vote. guest: voter id laws. i think there is a lot of myths

about voter id laws. one is that everybody has this form of id. everyone does not. look at texas where has been two trials. 5% of registered voters in texas do not have a government issued id, 600,000 voters. blacks and hispanics are two to three times more likely and whites not to have this id. the law is drawn in such a way that you can only vote with strict forms of id. you can vote in texas with a handgun permit but not a state issued university id. i don't have a problem with requiring id but requiring an id that not everyone has, you limit to a few forms of strict id, something that i think is wrong. you can get into a hospital with a state id and various forms of identification. you don't just need a strict form of identification. if we will do voter id laws i

think when you do it in a more expansive way. but we are seeing in states like texas is people do not have things like birth certificates needed to get the id or they live in a county that does not have a dmv office in texas, a third of counties do not have a dm office so if you live in rural texas and don't have a youers license, how would get to a dmv to get that id that suddenly is required? as far as wisconsin and same-day registration, there is no evidence that same day you get to a dmv to get thatregistrr prevalence of voter fraud in states that have adopted it. it has not led to a surge in voter fraud. host: we welcome listeners on c-span radio. our guest is ari berman. he is the author of give us the ballot. he is a graduate of northwestern university's school of

journalism. linda, democratic line. good morning. caller: the right to vote is the key to power. ever since barack obama was elected president republicans have tied themselves in knots to keep blacks and the poor from voting. i believe it is a new form of poll tax. everyone does not drive or have a drivers license. everyone does not have the money to afford to buy a birth certificate and get a form of id. it is a poll tax. it is a shame in this day and age, before barack obama, everybody begged and pleaded to vote. it was free and easy.

difficult.ery i vote. i work. my family works. it is not anything about just republicans. they believe they are the only righteous ones in the world that only work, pray and serve the lord. we all live and work in this country and want the best for this country. it is a shame they are tearing it down so they can block this man -- this black man from doing what he was hired to do. guest: a federal court in texas did find that state possible voter id law was a poll tax because you have to pay for the underlying documents needed to get a voter id so you had to have a birth certificate for example and that costs anywhere from $22 to if you need to get it notarized into the hundreds of dollars. they found poorer texans in particular were not necessarily

able to afford the documents to obtain this id. there were real costs associated with getting one. i do think a lot of people don't realize the very years -- the barriers associated with these laws. particularly financial barriers. i think we should be asking ourselves, why are we doing this. if there is no evidence of impersonation fraud, maybe we are just addressing a problem that does not really exist. host: another point from your book. this from the new york times sunday magazine from earlier in the month written by president obama, he said, i am where i am today because of the voting rights act and individuals behind this legislation. you point out his final speech in 2008 before the election was in manassas, virginia. guest: it was the site of a famous battle in the civil war.

the battle of bull run. -- barack obama who would later become the first african-american president, in virginia, in the sight of this famous battle for the civil war with this diverse crowd, black, , a powerfulo, asian moment that represented the progress we have made as a country. obama was someone who carried three states of the old confederacy where he would not have been able to vote in 1965. the fact that obama won north carolina and florida and virginia showed the progress we had made as a country. i think many people thought that settled the debate over voting rights at the fact that five years after the president's election the voting rights act was gutted and there was this new wave of attempts to make it

harder to vote showed this issue was not dead. that the voting rights act remained a contested east of legislation. -- piece of legislation. host: a tweet from one of our viewers. does your book touch on election fraud? guest: the only evidence we really see of election fraud is absentee ballot fraud which i do address. many of these laws exempt axon t valid's -- exempt absentee ballots. i think if they were a good faith effort, they would go after fraud where it is most prevalent, instead they're going after voter impersonation fraud which does not really exist. every major study shows it does not really exist. i think absentee ballots are exempted because of some core republican constituencies tend to vote absentee more often, particularly older voters and voters in the military.

if we were making an effort to try and deal with the voter fraud that does exist, absentee ballots would be the first thing we go after. host: according to daily caller.com, former justice department officials say-- guest: i don't see the evidence that noncitizens are voting. i don't see evidence that this is happening. i don't understand why if you are a noncitizen and here exclusively to work you would risk getting caught with a felony and getting deported. host: luisa is next. republican line, virginia. caller: i wanted to remind people of mayor daley and the california redistricting of the 1980's and 1990's. , wanted to point out congressman moran's son was

caught on tape killing somebody forging utility bills in order to vote. i want to remind people about the provisional ballot. state, iin washington voted in the primaries. when i went to vote in the general election i was not on the list. i had to fill out a provisional ballot. it is not counted unless there so smallin of voting that they have a recount. host: we look at a response. -- guest: i think you have to find more current examples the 1960's that was a .

real evidence or current evidence of voter fraud in large numbers affecting american elections today. the provisional ballots, this was mandated after the 2000 election in florida. that he would be given a fallback talent. provisional ballots are always supposed to be counted, the problem is that many of them aren't counted. that relates to the fact that often once you are given a provisional ballot, you have already not met the qualifications. so what we're seeing as part of the restrictions is that there are more provisional ballots being cast because laws have been changed and people don't know about it. in north carolina, provisional ballots are increasing and they aren't being counted. host: we are talking with ari berman on his book give us the ballot. caller: good morning.

i would like to see everyone vote in the united states, including every prisoner and homeless person. who want the photo id thing, that would be fine except that the people who are homeless have no way to get these. they in wisconsin that have a free id you can get, but the place to get it is only open certain days ended his miles of travel to get to it. guest: that is a very good points that the caller makes, the availability of the id. there are strict voter id laws in effect for the 2016 election for the first time. but very few dmv offices in wisconsin are open on the weekends. the people that are more likely to not have this id are also going to be less likely to be able to get there during normal

business hours. so i think that is a real burden associated with these laws. wisconsin,w that in hundreds of thousands of people don't have government issued ids. host: richard, good morning. from massachusetts, you are next. thank you so much for writing this book. i hope it has an impact on the 2016 election. when he was in the reagan administration in the 80's, he was against the voting rights act then. that to get rid of discrimination is to not votinginate, and the rights act was actually an entitlement for black people. it is outrageous. the law wasn't even dry on paper and all of the republican and the people who

supported them, they change laws all of the country. could you comment on that? guest: what you see with justice , they and justice roberts came of age politically in the reagan era when there was a big backlash to the voting rights act. they have a long history of hostility here, not just to the voting rights act but also to address efforts to deal with history of discrimination. this has been a signature project for roberts when he was nominated as chief justice, he was asked about all of the criticisms of the voting rights act. he clearly had a problem with it and he has made it his mission as chief justice to roll back

the 1960's. host: then from georgia. good morning. caller: good morning. it is a blessing to be able to be on this morning. bermanetty sure that ari is a smart gentleman. but every book that is ever written is written with a slant. registration is open year-round. i am retired military, i did 26 years. i have voted in most major elections, not many midterm elections. i had to go through some things to be able to vote, but i was willing to do that. being that i am originally from south carolina, it wasn't too hard to be able to get back home georgia, now i live in

but i drive home to go vote. when i was in the military, i would take time off. to beys are rough days able to get off. i know being in the leadership in the military, the last election -- host: thank you, i'm going to stop you there. think everyone should vote and there should be no excuses. it should be a right, not a privilege. we should be making it easier to vote, not harder. it is obviously still possible to cast a ballot, it is possible to participate, but it has become harder to do so. i think it is unnecessary and unfortunate. in this day and age, we should be encouraging a much broader voter turnout. we should be trying to fix the

problem of the low voter turnout. not sick or have ways to make it harder to participate. host: you say the following, what changed was that states , theyansas, and wisconsin had adopted southern born barriers to the ballot box. when the voting rights act was needed the most, a majority on the court seemed to believe the a list voting discrimination have been cured. down theey struck voting rights act at the very moment when all of these states have passed new voting restrictions. so instead of saying that maybe we should expand the voting rights act or modify it to encompass new things, like requiring strict voter id, instead, the supreme court said they were going to take away the most important remedy for stopping voting discrimination. essentially they said because you are not stopping everyone,

you can't stop anyone. recognize thatld those are the worst histories of discrimination. those did not end in 1965. some states still needed special federal oversight. wisconsin and ohio -- we needed to deal with them as well. instead we are moving backwards on this issue. instead of trying to expand voting rights, we are seeing more restrictions. and i think on the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act with the country's first black president, that is unfortunate. host: the book is called you must be ballot, ari berman, thank you for being with us. noweature on booktv, and kiersten powers is here to take your calls about her new book, the silencing, how the left is

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host: kiersten powers is a columnist for "usa today" and is a contributor to fox news. she is out with a new book, the silencing. guest: i am such a fan of the show. host: we are glad to have you. put me two experiences in a regular relationship with conservatives, working with fox news. got to know actual conservative and religious people, the harder it was to justify the stereotypes i had so carelessly embraced. elaborate. guest: i come from a very liberal family. , but ints are professors did no privilege growing up. there were conservatives growing up. was livingew york, i

in manhattan and was basically in a liberal bubble working in democrat politics. and didn'tisolated know anybody who didn't think the way i thought. i detested evangelicals even though i had never met one. when i started as a contributor news, i realize that we might not agree on things but they are not all they bigots. the same thing as when i became a christian, i started to realize that they are not anti-intellectual. they were all anti-gay, but it is more complex than i realized. host: that gets to the conclusion, you say that we should all make efforts to invite people to hold different views into our world. contrary to popular thought, familiarity doesn't breed

contempt. understanding and tolerance. how have you done that? guest: it happens naturally. i have a lot of friends who are conservative on issues when i am not conservative. they are conservative on same-sex marriage and i am not. not necessarily on the biblical teaching, but more on the country and the laws that we could embrace. in that way, i think i have more diversity. i still have my liberal friends, and i like to talk to people who are independent and who don't -- the people who are all over the map. host: where would you put yourself on the political spectrum? still a democrat. i've become more frustrated with the political party. i don't think i am the same kind of diehard democrat that i used

to be. but i've never voted for a republican, not that i am opposed to it. i think i am left of center in terms of politics down the left -- down the list of issues. except for abortion, i am pro-life. i am open to arguments. if someone can persuade me that i am wrong, i am open. news has working at fox changed your beliefs? guest: i think it has made me more liberal. having to really argue my case on things, i have really noticed that. or maybe it was after i started working at fox that i became a christian, and that had an impact on me. that has deftly made me more liberal. host: your family still lives in alaska, what do they say about your evolution? guest: i come from a family of

atheists. they think religion is anti-educational. -- anti-intellectual. they tolerated. aboutwhat did you learn yourself while writing this book? introvert, i have always been able to be by myself and have never understood loneliness. andn spend weeks by myself be fine. i have never experienced anything like that. the weight of having it all on you and being locked in a room for four months and writing, it was transformative. host: let's talk about the 2016 campaign. and new poll shows that hillary clinton is eight points behind bernie sanders in new hampshire, although she is ahead in iowa.

there is a front-page story in the washington post today about the anger in this country. do you sense that? guest: absolutely. watch the last four elections, whoever comes into office will say we have a mandate, they say everyone will love us. and i always say that that is not the rod -- the right interpretation. are sending a message that they are unhappy with what is going on in washington. i always think that people will say at one point that, you are not listening to us anymore. it seems to me that it is happening. don't know if they would actually elect a bernie sanders or a donald trump, but it is happening quicker than i thought it would. the people who are bumping up

are the non-politicians. bernie sanders is technically a politician, but he is the anti-politician. he is outside of the normal washington. you look at carly fiorina, ben carson, these are people who aren't politicians. donald trump, he is not a politician and a matter what he says, it doesn't have an impact on what people think of him. will beo do you think the last individual standing? guest: in the past i would make a prediction, but at this point i really don't know. the normal laws of gravity of politics, you would watch the debate with ronald trump and say he is going to tank. he can't act like that and have support. support has gone up.

i would never have expected carly fiorina in a normal , people would say that she doesn't seem like she has experience. so i feel like the dynamics are different. if the dynamics were normal, i would say jeb bush. but i don't think the dynamics are normal. and i don't know if they're going to kick back in and we will end up what we -- and up with what we normally guest. i think that is jeb bush. what you think of the story of hillary clinton and her e-mails? guest: it is extremely damaging. she has lost a lot of trust from people. a lot of that can be tied to the e-mail story. to fact that she has had hand over the server which she should have done in the first

place, it shows how damaging this is. the fact that in the beginning she said she was not going to do that. so she has been forced to do something she did not want to do, and i think it is a shame. it seems shady, what are you hiding? host: "wall street journal" announced this morning that -- is seriously considering a bid, joe biden is. that she said she wasn't going to run, and a lot of people thought she was going to stay out of it. but people are desperate. and she has a huge following, -- she is a senator. in this environment, if you are her, you have to look at it and think, i don't know. and the same thing with joe biden. it could be his shot.

there is such contempt and hillary clinton's approval ratings are dropping. she doesn't have the same kind of support that she had in 2008. and to be fair, a lot of democrats really like her, but she is a weak candidate. host: our guest is kiersten powers, a fox news correspondent. she is here to take your phone calls. frank is first from fort lauderdale, florida. caller: hi, how are you? i have seen you on tv in number of times. one thing i would like to ask, i'm a member of a veterans association. war, itnd of the cold is ironic, but college campuses became less oriented towards free speech. say that i would

identify with somebody to the more likenter, but the donald sutherland character in the movie jfk. who not only thought there was a conspiracy but tended to be liberal on views. and representing something other than the wild and crazy attitude that you see nowadays. goes, as hillary clinton she inflames a lot of people, but at the same time, people would like to see her become president more than just push. but at the same time, i think she could do something to help us understand foreign policy, like rights of the new republican. can you comment on that? thank you for your service. i don't know what to respond to. i think in terms of the

campuses. whatever we fell in the past, about how free speech was being suppressed, it fails -- it pales in comparison to what we see now. this has taken the politically correct thing and put it on steroids. serious, it would be absurd. the fact that you have these trigger warnings that inhibit free speech and professors and students, i think it is a serious issue. host: let me pick up on that point. you'd talk about the obama white house. you say that the obama white reporters withd its secrecy, lack of transparency and hostility. you give a couple of examples, including interviews. guest: yes, i interviewed people

who are critical, and this is a white house that came and said it was going to be transparent. it goes back five administrations. she said she had more access under bush two. i asked what the most access she had was anti-she said during reagan. and that is a huge disappointment that you have had an administration that is so hostile to debate. they are only having six presidential debates. that really makes it so that

hillary really has no challenge. martin o'malley came out and said it was undemocratic. it is meant to make sure that there is no debate. judy in idaho.to caller: good morning, i have two points. first, i disagree that you are being silenced. be able tots is to speak your mind and not be criticized for it. that is an entirely different thing. host: stay on the line, we will get a response. guest: i don't think i am silenced. my book is not about me. it is about a cultural phenomenon. liberals, whoand have experienced this first hand. the people who are doing the

silencing are on the left, but the people being science -- being silenced could be anywhere. my follow-up is my view of what the biggest problem is. that redefining of the english language from the right-wing. people need to find themselves as conservative when they really are radicals. conservative used to mean and from your, own introduction, you refer to yourself as christian, that has become meaningless. i think christian means that you accept jesus christ as your savior. true that different people have different interpretations, but i think it is a pretty clear term. take your point that

conservatives and liberals, those words have shifted their meanings. i don't know that we know what they mean. it is a fair point that these words can mean different things. the president talked about thenews, he talked about poor. here's a portion of what he had to say. to suggestthe effort that the poor are sponges, leeches, don't want to work, or , or are undeserving, got traction. and look, it is still being propagated. i have to say, if you watch fox news on a regular basis, it is a

constant menu. they will find folks who make me mad. and i don't know where they find them. [laughter] they say they don't want to work, they just want a free obama phone. and that has become an entire narrative that gets you worked up. there he rarely do you hear an interview of a waitress who is raising a couple of kids and to is doing everything right still can't pay bills. host: your reaction to what the president said in may. guest: later, it was funny. i'm nott fox news, and saying that no one has ever called someone a leech on air, i think he took it too far. the correct criticism is

the mitt romney, 47%. there are people who game the system. that is a fair criticism and a think theyervatives are not as concerned as -- with .he working poor host: in the book, you had say that the obama administration has had no problem with other hosts like rachel maddow or keith olbermann. liberal left condemns fox news which has plenty of straight news programming. guest: yes, i write a lot about that then fox news administration has launched. i can't imagine any other president doing this to anybody.

but -- had an enemy list. that really the comparison that we want to have for barack obama? unfortunately, it is the comparisons that people make. as the whiteout house and tell people who the legitimate news organizations are. that is not the job of the white house. it is not their job and they should be able to answer critics and not delegitimize them or demonize them. that is what they were doing instead of engaging them. no criticism of other stations. i think anybody who watched the debate that we just had, those star anchors. i think people saw the work that they do and the idea that these

types of people should be delegitimize and that the president was a part of that, it is problematic. i haven't talked to roger ale, but he tends to know what is going to he tends to always know what is going to happen with comes to tv stuff. i don't know if he was surprised. i certainly was. i knew it was going to be vague but that's really vague. kierstin powers is a graduate of the university of maryland. jerry is next. caller: good morning. i wanted to bring up a political mash-up. three things. on conservatives and their hostility toward those who might speak out against racist cops gunning down african-american men. i am a 50-year-old african-american.

it seems as though particularly in the conservative media, whenever there is an incident involving a racist cop gunning down african-american man, or any civil rights related issue, -- peopleervatives tend to avoid talking about what conservatives -- tend to try and circle the wagons. first they blamed the victim for their own death. blame the victim for their own debt. and also silence anyone from the civil rights community trying to speak out, accusing them of being race baiters. i debate these issues a lot on fox news. i have noticed there is definitely a different lens that these events are seen through. i tend to say, i know a lot

about baltimore and the police department there and the abuses. thatis not something really surprises me. my conservative friends go right to law and order. that is all they see. that these people are criminals, they are breaking the law. therefore the police are right. so the color is correct. so i think conservatives and liberals tend to look at these issues and see different things. and that is a ongoing debate that i have with a lot of my colleagues. host: your next point? thatr: the other thing is since you joined fox, just find asity wise, do you far as your demeanor when you debate and talk with people like bill o'reilly or sean hannity,

they seem to me that a lot of them come across as really kind of arrogant, narcissistic and really pompous. guest: [laughter] i have a lot of very intense debates with bill o'reilly i think it's fair to say. i think a lot of other people do as well. i don't think there's anything i experience with him that is different. but we have a good relationship. on hisinues to have me show even though we really disagree on a lot of issues. host: is he the same off-camera as on camera? guest: yet. -- yeah. caller: there seems to be a hostility that white conservatives have toward anything pertaining to civil rights. the 50thommemorated anniversary of the voting rights act. conservativeshite -- and again, no one seems to want to talk about why conservatives -- they try to

there is boater fraud and stuff like that. but really they are trying to suppress the black vote. and to me, the comments i hear from white callers on shows from -- on showsournal like washington journal, confirms what i suspected all along. i see no hope as a black man of conservative whites ever seeing us as equals. no one seems to want to talk about conservative white people. that: i think it is sad the caller feels that way. there is nothing you can generalize about what conservatives in that way. i know plenty of white conservatives who are very concerned about civil rights particularly in the evangelical world.

so i do think that's fair. thatnk the caller is right there are people that have that attitude and it is troubling. -- i not the view that i am more aligned with the caller. i think that you have both. i don't think you can generalize about why conservatives. host: this program is carried live on c-span radio. powers, fox kirsten news contributor and author of how the left is killing free speech. republican line, good morning. kirsten, i have been a democrat and worked for democrats and a republican since the reagan era. what i wanted to ask was how do to a bipartisan

middle america approach to governance? whether it is with respect to the regulation of the healthment and public and safety, worker health and safety and so forth, and a reasonable amount of fair and or a bipartisan american defense and foreign policy situation such as in the -- support ofj israel, support of our allies. that we are not just going to go blunder off into wars. your book is refreshing. i'm going to go out and buy a copy this morning. see how you think we could segue from where we are today with this extreme polarization of our politics to something more workable as a democracy.

host: quick question. do you think today's democratic party would welcome a conservative democrat like scoop jackson? or the republicans welcome a more liberal? caller: [laughter] terrific question. i'm afraid maybe not. i think even the gipper might have trouble in today's republican party. i think of senator benson and a number of other sort of conservative democrats might have trouble with today's democratic party. it is part of this extreme polarization of our nation. which i think is damaging and really counterproductive. host: thank you. guest: such an easy question. it is so easy to solve this problem. i don't know the solution.

the analysis of the problem is completely correct. we have lost most of our moderate leaders. they have retired. they've gotten tired of it. i think it's up to the american people. they have to send the message that they are unhappy. i think they are sending a message to a certain extent with the donald trump and bernie sanders phenomenon. but i don't think that is going to translate into the polls. troubling as i find donald trump to be, the only silver lining i can find is that i do feel like he could send a message that could shake up this system to the point that they would say, we have gone so far off track that this is what people are voting for. that could lead to some sort of correction. isause i really think -- it not the donald trump is so amazing. i think it's just like anything

but what we have now. a cnn poll out today says 44% of those surveyed said donald trump could change washington. guest: right. and that's what they want. they don't even care what the changes. they just want something to happen. this is not the washington i worked in when i worked in the clinton administration where democrats and republicans worked together. it just doesn't exist anymore. it is both parties. each party likes to point to the other one and pretend they are so holy. the truth is both parties have pulledled -- have been to their farthest reaches. host: will your name ever be on the ballot? guest: never. [laughter] eric is next. independent line. caller: my question is divided

intoa a and b. i'm neither left nor right. i find that the left has so much power in killing free speech. groups of people will make it impossible for someone to work even in the arts. this is taking place because of the apathy of those who designate themselves on the right. the right seems to be very much more comfortable with what goes on and doesn't put up a militant fight when the left is killing this free speech. i think the right has tried to put up a fight that nobody listens to them. they just say, they are whining and it is not really happening and it's not real. maherwhen a filbill comes out and says, what is going on. when he gets disinvited from c uc berkeley, when jerry

seinfeld gets disinvited from campuses. conservatives have in complaining about this stuff but nobody is listening to them. there was an article in vox.com by liberal professor who had to write under a pseudonym who was so afraid of his liberal students. he says, people say that conservative students are doing this, too. said even if they weren't nobody would care. if a liberal student brings these accusations against you a could be a career anender. i want to put one excerpt from the book. " facts and fairness do not move a liberal feminist. everything is viewed through a preordained narrative.

that thea rape case frat boys are presumed rapists and nothing will shake their results in believing that to be true." and you go on to talk about how the story was false. guest: particularly liberal feminists. i'm no fan of fraternities, don't get me wrong. what facts't matter came out. they continue to say, i stand with the accuser. --n if the facts didn't , in is this attitude of worse to make an accusation and not be believed then to be at the end of a false accusation so we will always side with the accuser. just belittling the idea that this is harmful to mental as if being accused of rape is not going to destroy your life.

you cannot recover from it. there are real ramifications and they're are just not interested in anyone who disagrees with them. there is no debate. florida.ee in so proud of you for dealing with fox news. i am a successful businessman that i am a liberal democrat. my point is this. when you talk about the silencing of the left -- i don't you, iat it is with think you're great intellectual heavyweights in the face of a

s.luge of conservative sp and bill o'reilly who is in your face all the time with his views, i have seen you get into it with him. and megyn kelly who i used to love but i don't like anymore because she has become the second bill o'reilly. she used to be meek. she is more vitriolic. how can a person like you continue to stand that kind of heat coming from people all the time when they won't listen, when they won't have -- they don't see things impartially. bitguys capitulate little continue to -- drive your point across.

guest: i don't know a lot of people i work with who think i capitulate. it's good to be in places where people disagree with you. that's the problem with our society right now. they just want to be around people who think like them and don't want to have to debate anything. there are a lot of people who come up to meho and say, i have changed my views. that is who you are trying to reach. bill are great. eek, iwas never m don't know what he's talking about. there are too many people who think exactly the same way. you need to have diversity of thought. you need people from different

backgrounds, classes, education levels. says one of our viewers just get ready for the ugly irs audit. guest: [laughter] line.republican good morning bobby. caller: good morning. people need to send a message to washington. can't get work and they send a message for the popular vote instead of the electoral vote. some people who want to get at the electoral college. i haven't studied it enough. i think it is a reasonable debate to be having. there is disproportionate power given to certain states to determine who the president is going to be. i think that's something that should be examined . host: rachel, independent line.

caller: for 15 years i have watched fox news. it has always said it is fair and balanced. i went through an intervention. andted watching c-span found out most of the stuff i heard was based on fear and lies your from c-span i learned a lot. and i have not found one person that can silence me yet and it will never happen. it is just fear. you all just preach fear and try to scare people. i have not yet seen either party work together. they work against each other. they work for us. and we're tired of it. and there's a lot of people that is no longer republicans are democrats. we are just tired of it. host: can i ask you a question? caller: yes or. host. host: who are you supporting in the campaign?

caller: bernie sanders. host: why? caller: because i like what he has to say. and when women get up and say black lives matter, that is simply trying to silence him. they have not gone after anyone else but him. and they should be going after a lot of other people out there. thanks for the call. stay on the line. i was about to say, i think bernie sanders would disagree that people aren't being silenced. then you just said he was being silenced. what do you think about the fact that we're only having six democratic debates? caller: you get your money from fox news. guest: that's not an argument. just answer the question. caller: they are paying you. guest: i write for usa today and i wrote a book. that's what i do and that's not

an argument. that's an ad hominem attack. caller: they pay. you. i don't agree with everything they have to say. they all have different views. city want to answer the question -- so do you want to answer the question? caller: about silencing sanders? guest: bernie sanders complained about the lack of democratic debates. they are only having six and he is saying there should be more. do you agree? caller: who would he debate against, hillary? we have not really seen anyone else out there that is running. it would be hillary and martin o'malley at this point. caller: how would you debate?

nobody likes hillary. bernie sanders is independent but he had to get on the democratic party in order -- because there was no chance of him winning. so it wouldn't be a good debate. not unless we got someone else out there that is willing to run. host: thank you rachel. she is conceding the argument of my book. she says there is no silencing and then turns around and says bernie sanders is being silenced. and the people silencing him are on the left. it is the same argument i am making. it doesn't matter how liberal you are. you can still be on the receiving end of it. say, i supported obama care but to think that republicans and conservatives oppose it because the president

is black is absurd. demonizing opponents of his agenda is a dishonest and divisive attempt to delegitimize dissent from the left's worldview. about the liberal left to distinction from principled liberals who do support free speech. they go abouty silencing people is they delegitimize them. one of the ways they do that is demonizing. rather than having to debate the issue -- like what just happened. we're not going to talk about arguments, we are going to talk about the fact that you work for fox news. so this is a very liberal impulse. it's not about ideas or being intellectual.

with obamacare, people will just accuse you of being racist. i'm sure for some people that is true. them just don't like obama because a democrat is doing it. the idea that you only would ever oppose a democratic president if you are a republican because of race is not an argument. if someone says something racist, that is one thing. but just opposition to health care reform? they opposed it when hillary did it. host: republican line. good morning. caller: i think a lot of people are voting for donald trump because they are sick of politicians and the news media. they think the news media is corrupt. i got on ring of fire radio. everyone is going to that site

and they showed that comcast had msnbc fire at schultz for talking about -- fire ed schlutz for talking about the tpp trade agreement. and then you got the state of israel. any africant let black tuesday become citizens in their country and they'll talk about that. -- i think people system is corrupt. we need public news paid by the people. for payingank you your cable bill and watching c-span. the sounds like a little conspiracy theory type stuff. i think it's true people have lost faith in the media. i was watching a documentary about the famous debate between gore vidal and bill

buckley. they talked about at the time the media was the most respected institution in the country. they really trusted the media to give them information. now we are at the very bottom when it comes to institutions that are trusted. i think it is a real problem. people are mad at the media. host: when you write for usa today, what is the process? where do you get your ideas? how long does it take? guest: it's different for every piece. some i will spend a full week reporting on. kids thatece on the were coming across the border and i went and met with some of them. something like that will take a lot of time. another one might take a day. it just depends on the situation. the ideas are all my ideas.

it is just what i am feeling interested in that week. have always been very supportive of anything i wanted to write about. the hard ones are the abortion columns. i have written a couple on planned parenthood. it is a hard topic. i am pro-life and i think our needs to have a real debate on abortion. issue.really talks about but i recognize that one in three women have had abortions and it is very hard to them to hear -- i don't want anybody to feel like i'm being judgmental of them or i think less of them or anything like that. it's hard to find the balance to be tough in terms of what these planned parenthood videos that i

think are really troubling and i think people need to look at them but at the same time recognize that it is competent for a lot of people. host: heavy talk to those women -- have you talked to those women? guest: i have friends who have had abortions. some of them regret it. i have other people say it was the best thing i ever did. people have different views. i have a friend who recently had and in that situation they felt like that was the only option. it is not going to affect my relationship with anybody. i respect their right to make that decision. i still love my friends. host: why are you pro-life? i was very pro-choice in the sense that i felt that i was a feminist and so you had to be

pro-choice. but personally i was always pro-life in the sense that i would never have had an abortion and i tried to talk friends out of having them. i have always thought it was a life. but i felt like it was more up for debate. at andarted to study understand more of the development of the fetus and start to understand that there actually are a lot of second trimester and third trimester abortions just because of the sheer numbers that we have -- you can say it is only 1%. million is one abortions. so we need to talk about this more. i have never been an advocate for overturning roe v wade. i am more in the changing hearts and minds kind of thing. supportricans don't second trimester abortions, so why are they legal? i feel like this is a life and a life of value.

it was not a religious thing. it was an ethical human rights point of view. host: margaret is from florida. independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm very happy to talk to you. i see you all the time. i'm a conservative independent and i am a catholic. i have great respect for you. i have quite a few liberal friends. i agree with the premise of your book. i have three daughters. two of them have finished college and one is in high school. it is very pervasive in middle school and high school, all three of my daughters have been lambasted for their views. it didn't come out in the first month but during the course of a

-- itr writing papers comes out that they are catholic or that their parents are republican or that they dared say that they had voted for mitt romney. prior to that, my daughter who went to a college in boca raton, the professor actually cried and took up class time to weep talking about george bush. she would daughter if be willing to go ask for her money back for class that day. there is a lot of danger in what is happening -- there is no debate, there is no conversation. just like a patriotic to eacher.et i love th i love a teacher who says, you

speak respectfully of any president. that doesn't happen anymore. they are allowed to say who they love, why they love them. or you are put into a circle, if you are a catholic, we don't even have to talk because we know why you think what you think. which is very insulting. people who don't understand faith, you really can't argue. i am always amazed at the liberals who would say to me this isn't really happening. i will say, you don't have any conservative friends. i don't know a single person who doesn't have stories like that. particularly an evangelical. and then professors -- forget it.

people are at this point where they feel like they can't say anything and they want because they don't know what's going to happen to them. jo in my book i quote from hait who was confronting this at a social psychology conference. he was confronting them saying, we don't have any diversity of thought. everyone is liberal. he insulted the moderate democrat -- he himself is a moderate democrat. he said he wanted to find a conservative social psychologist to talk to and he couldn't find a single one. he found two people who weren't actually conservative, they just weren't liberal. he said talking to them reminded him of talking to closeted gay people in the 1970's. there were so afraid that if they were open about the fact that they were not liberal that

it could harm their career prospects or their educational prospects. this is not the kind of world i think we want to live in. the social psychologists actually didn't agree with him. he said can we change our mission statement, how about intellectual diversity? 99 percent of social psychologists are white, you would say, problem. 99% are men, problem. democrats, liberal there is no problem? we are harming science. and still they refuse to change their mission. host: where do you go for information? guest: i'm all over the place. i look at the new york times, washington post, l.a. times . you just start clicking around.

i go to a website called memorandum that has all the hottest stories of the day. when something interests me then i start calling people. i call people who i know who are experts. i try to find people who aren't partisan and aren't ideological. everybody has a point of view, but the closest i can find are people who i trust to i know are going to tell me straight. versus just sell me a bunch of talking points. has anyone at fox news said, this is what we want you to say today? guest: never. let's go to iowa. good morning. wanted tojust

piggyback off for was said earlier about the occurrence of trump and sanders. and how the establishments on acceptdes refuse to responsibility for the occurrence of sanders and trump. they are a voice that says, hey, you're not listening to us, we are going to go play our game. just dismissing everybody else is being crazy. they are never going to admit there is something wrong with them. guest: i agree. totally. you have this establishment in d.c. who really believes they know better than everybody else. i actually like bernie sanders a lot. i don't see what's so crazy about bernie sanders as president personally. it's not any crazier than george bush being president in my book. i think at a minimum there has

to be a message sent to the establishment that this cannot go on. we cannot continue in the way we are going. it is not working. the book came out earlier this summer. hasn't received the reaction you expected -- has it received the reaction you expected? guest: i didn't know what to expect. there are a lot of people who agree with it and a lot of people who disagree with it. i would have liked to have more debate about it. there haven't been many liberals that want to debated. that is something i would like to see. case.our let's actually debate this. this is another serious problem. you can't have knowledge without debate. it's like groupthink.

it's orwellian. that's what we are headed toward. where you work at fox news is an argument. or you are a misogynist. it's not an argument. we need to be having debates. are you going to write another book? guest: i will never do such a quick turnaround. i wanted to get it done before the election because it was going to be too hard to do election stuff and write a book. i would write another book just not in four months. host: kirsten powers, fox news contributor. thank you. we will take a short break. when i come back, your phone calls. our lines are open. (202) 748-8001 republicans. (202) 748-8000 democrats.

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in regards to your last when the news media was being bought up by corporate america, the democrats decided -- communication act to prevent corporate bias on news. this was done away with by ronald reagan. the democrats want to restore it but every time they do, the right will have nothing to do with the fairness of truth and communications act. the mainstream media who is supposed to be liberal our corporate biased and they won't even report on it or promoted. -- or promote it. who is telling the truth and who is lying? host: wayne is next from

tennessee. good morning. caller: good morning. host: what's on your mind? term limits. at the federal level. everybody's wondering what they can do to get more people out of to vote. i think that would interest people. i think the current setting of politicians and career politicians in particular are starting to get more involved than what the people want. host: politico reporting this morning that hillary clinton's

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mustang and i am driving $50 cars that are breaking down on the way to work trying to support my mother and i have this loan. don't let this happen to kids. find a way. host: thanks for the call. says, everyone should follow the chinese government and its continued efforts to internally manage their sputtering economy. good morning. caller: praise be for c-span. the issue is john kasich is supposed to have backpedaled in the eyes of many people. climate changee is not a proven theory, that's true, it is just a hypothesis. but if we wait till it is proven it is going to kill us all. kasich and i am asking c-span to help me. i want the 10 most serious

problems facing the nation -- let them all put up your list. and they are all to recommend books to read so we can be informed voters. and maybe c-span on booktv can help us. we can interview all these candidates about books and start a new trend in politics instead of these tv soundbite. s. host: that's what we do all the time. caller: you are a wonderful gift to the united states. host: you made our day. thank you so much. next week, three republican candidates will be in new hampshire. we will be covering governor kasich and governor christie as they take questions from voters. david in florida, good morning. caller: i am reading the new york times.

one of the articles is fiorina emerges from pack after trump remarks. monogisticed remarks. i am supporting trump. what i have a problem with how it is hillary clinton apologized gistic remarks when she trashed every single one of those women that they did have affairs with bill clinton? that is the hypocrisy of the left. host: thanks for the call. rowan scarborough in the washington times, the e-mails had data from spy satellites. killer clinton's private e-mails continue to have sensitive information derived from spy satellites. undercuts her defense that she

had no reason to believe she was dealing with classified information. the story is also available online. jackie is next from ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. speck ofnot a difference between the gop and the democratic party. let's face it. the same people contribute to the democrats and the republicans. and they are the big billionaires in this country who are pushing their agenda no matter who is in office o. whether we have a republican or democratic congress it really doesn't matter. it is all going to end up the same. they're going to keep making money hand over fist and the workers are going to keep getting less and less. if anybody thinks it is going to be any different, they ought to look at the people at the top of the heap.

hillary has a hundred million dollars in her campaign chest. mr. trump is a billionaire with a supposedly $10 billion. so let's not get out of sync here. we all know nothing is going to change. all you have to do is watch the republican congress. nothing is going to change. you watch the democratic congress, nothing changed. host: who is your candidate? caller: i don't have one. i like bernie sanders he can't win. it is too bad. is the only one that is really telling the truth if you listen to him. but people aren't listening and they don't want to listen. this is a reality. countryity stage of our where reality shows make the top 10.

host: usa today reporting on that pulled cannot yesterday. poll that came out yesterday. that is getting a lot of attention. next is john joining us from indiana. good morning. dold you turn the volume wn? let me put you on hold. we'll go to peter next. are you with us? one more time. caller: hello? i want to mention trump. i'm glad he is making chaos in the republican party.

i want to say something about netanyahu and this peace deal. when netanyahu was in there he was part of the administration selling arms to iran. when the prime minister of israel was assassinated, his wife came on larry king and she blamed him for the assassination of mr. rabin. because what he did is what he is doing now. he is riling these people up. he said there is going to be another holocaust if he gets what he wants. well he riled his party members up so much that he was assassinated. in this last election when he thought he was losing, there was going to be another holocaust if

this goes through, and now he's doing it with the peace deal. we are going to have to get ready for war if this doesn't go through. mossad, who used to be -- they said he's crazy. but nobody wants to listen. could come on and talk with him. another viewer saying the stock market continues to get manipulated. why isn't the fed raising interest rates? what is really happening? front page of the atlanta journal constitution focusing on our former president jimmy carter announcing yesterday, i have cancer. his treatment will take place at emory university hospital.

fair, we aree there covering the candidates. this story has been getting a lot of attention in pennsylvania as state attorney general those to keep fighting amid .llegations the miami herald, human rights top the list of items that secretary kerry will take to cuba. tomorrow the u.s. will officially raise the flag at the in havana. monro is next from michigan. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about the guy that called in from detroit talking about the voting rights act. i am an old white guy.

i live a block and a half from where i vote. and when i go to vote, i have to show my voting card and i have to show my drivers license. i know those people working there but i still have to show them. want therats don't voting rights act to go in n welle they know dam they cannot win an election if it is fair. they don't have enough people to do that. they want people to vote to her three times. they wanted people to vote to -- dead people too vote. host: what's your source? caller: in the last election, a lot of people admitted they did. one lady said she voted three times. host: ok.

joe in louisiana. good morning. we are getting some feedback. caller: good morning. i want to talk about the iran nuclear agreement. what are we going to do without this? are we going to war? we are going to war. we're going back to the same old thing with president bush. whom?going to war with .aller: iran n near did it.ar di germany tried to destroy israel. them off the

face of the map. but we pump all this money into israel. nobody says nothing about all those people that they killed in palestine. but here we go because of a word. host: the heritage foundation will be sponsoring a forum in just a couple of minutes looking at the iran nuclear deal as congress prepares to come back in september to debate and vote on that measure. the president is trying to secure enough votes to override any potential veto threat. richard is joining us from missouri. caller: talking about bernie sanders, he is the only one getting the crowds.

anyoneer ones won't let close enough to do anything to them. as far does the iran deal, congressman go over to israel to get orders from their president to do away with the deal. we will have war if we don't get something done with this. you told me about bernie sanders being in iowa. host: he will be speaking about 3:00. that takes place on saturday. we are covering all of the speeches. there are more than 20 candidates. hillary clinton is scheduled to be at the iowa state fair on saturday but she has not confirmed that she will speak at the des moines register soapbox. donna, ohio. independent line. good morning. problem because

i do think that in the late 1960's, the liberals took over. i became one of them. there is a silencing because they operate purely on emotion. i would like to see people like healthwho get into the professions or the social programs be conservative so there would be more balance in people's thoughts. host: do you agree with kirsten powers? caller: yeah i do. host: currency as the country is putting its credibility on the line with this move of the chinese currency pair donna is the last call from: this, ohio. caller: