hear, what i see are both men and women who are sick of the professional political class, sick of the problems in washington d c. they agree it is ridiculous in the smartest and richest country in the world, we cannot do basic things done like secure our borders and hold government accountable for being competent. >> we are back in two live at the iowa state fair. ben carson just vanishing up his remarks, now doing a mini news conference. it has become a cushy job with a lot of a culture mom. we are going to have to adjust to that. limits i wouldm suggest, lengthen the term for a representative from 2 years to 8 years. they could get recalled every 2

years if they were doing a terrible job at the same thing for senators, they only have one term for the president. when people get in and they start running for office the next day, it really does not make any sense. when we put lifetime limits in for jduges, -- judges, the average age of death is 47. we need to have some judicial ensure that we don't hamper their independence but at the same time we don't have a system where we have an oligarchy where a few maple -- few people are making decisions for everybody. >> what about the supreme court? >> yes, they should have term limits. >> do you have a plan to fix the criminal justice system? >> the criminal justice system is huge. the prison industry is one of

the biggest and fastest growing industries we have. we have 5% of the population in the world with 25% of the inmates. that tells you something is wrong. to haveeople in prison done things that are not violent and don't require that they be sequestered away from the rest of the population. what happens is they go through the prison, which is like a university for criminality, and the next thing you know they are let out and now they have relationships that lead them into a life of crime and violence. we obviously are going to have to examine that harry carefully and find better and different ways to punish people who don't need to be in the present. >> how about the fiscal gap? >> how would i close the fiscal gap? there's a number of things that have to be done. recognize we have the most powerful economic engine the world has ever known.

somebody whoe of didn't close the fiscal gap is italy. a few years ago they were in the but they as greece, had the courage to dramatically raise the retirement age and cut the retirement benefits by 40%. a little jerk conan, and people -- draconian, and people were not happy, but they recognized where they were going. be in a terrible state because there's nobody who can bail us out. what do we have? thatous amounts of energy we can utilize inappropriate ways. -- in appropriate ways. there are rules that prevent us from doing it. we have the ability to liquefy natural gas, which means it can be exported for it we can make

europe dependent on us for energy. and at the same time, drive down our debt. by developing our petroleum, our fossil fuels, we can generate money for research into alternative fuels and clean energy. ngs to not have to be at world with each other and the environmental protection agency should be used to work with business industry, academic, designed the cleanest and most environmentally friendly ways to utilize our energy, not suppress it. that will help tremendously. smart things like looking at the fact we have the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. of course that's going to drive business out of here. hiatus do a six-month tax-free so they can repatriate the over $2 trillion sitting

over there. the only stipulation i would make is 10% of it had to be used to job creation for people on welfare and people who are unemployed. you want to talk about his stimulus -- about a stimulus that does s a tremendous amount ourood, and gets corporations in the mindset of recognizing that the people around them are resources, and they are resources that need to be developed. we only have 330 million people. china has over one billion. india has over one billion. we can't afford to waste any more people. we have got to begin to develop them. we have got to develop our young people, change our mindset about that. one more productive taxpaying

member of society who may discover a productive energy source or the cure for cancer -- we need people to work in such a way that the progressives will not be able to drive wedges between people because we are all working for the same kind of goal. those are just a couple things. obviously we need to work with our tax system. we need to work with regulations. regulations are killing us. every new regulation drives up costs of good and services -- goods and services. there is a host of things we need to do. as we drive that debt down, guess what needs to happen. loosen upan begin to on the interest rate. we have to let the interest rate drive because the average man doesn't have any place to grow his money anymore. it is put in a savings account or bond market. the only place you can bet money is in the stock market and who

can play the stock market? only people who have a high risk tolerance, which tends to be more well-to-do people. all these things are driving the income disparity. we have to identify the real things that are doing it. politicians talking about, let's make college free for everybody, all that is doing is driving that gap even further and accelerating the class system. what is the timeline for the ag industry for it to be fully back? >> you want to do it probably over a 10-year period. people have made science based on those kinds of things -- plans based on these kinds of things. it's the same kind of thing when i talk about welfare reform.

a lot of people think i want to get rid of all welfare. i don't want to get rid of all welfare. economy, fix the provide the kind of jobs that allow people themselves to move of the latter and as we do that, as we give people viable options, we start withdrawing the benefits or would make the benefits contingent on working and various wings like that. -- things like that. we have to take into consideration all the pieces. [indiscernible] we will have more time later. we are upstairs. follow us. [applause] >> can i take a picture? "modern woman."

[inaudible] thank you. you have an opportunity right now. have a great day. virginia loves you. >> there you saw dr. ben carson in des moines speaking with reporters, back outside now, and we will show you that stage, the candidate's soapbox sponsored by the "des moines register." georgemoment away from pataki making his or marks.

tomorrow, three more candidates at the fair. in the morning we have wisconsin governor scott walker at 11:00 eastern and in the afternoon, carly fiorina at 1:00, lindsey graham at 4:00, and life coverage of all of it right here on c-span. itlive coverage of all of right here on c-span. >> good afternoon and welcome to the "des moines register" soapbox. i'm director at the "register." our next speaker is governor george pataki of new york. governor pataki first was elected to public office as the mayor of