years. the term anchor baby has been used for decades and now it is an offensive term to hillary clinton. position to in the actually say something about it, she didn't. everybody knows what anchor babies are. there are no two ways about it. jeb bush and donald trump are being condemned for saying what the truth is. you know what? it is time for the republicans to start coming to the gunfight with a gun instead of a knife. they started to back in the days of newt gingrich, but now it seems like they are backpedaling and apologizing for telling the truth. what you said is true. i would like to see somebody stand up. i'm not saying i'm a trump fan, but i tell you what, i love his attitude. host: i'm sorry, matt. i thought you were finished.

mr. forbes, any comment? exemplifiesnk that the deep dissatisfaction, the worrying anxiety that is around the country today. we have had the worst economic recovery from a sharp downturn since the 1930's. there is a feeling that things are falling apart around the world. the things are not going right here at home, that the labor markets are not as strong as they should be. people are frustrated and are looking for new faces. it doesaller indicated, not mean that he, at the end of the day, or when the primary come, you will end up voting for donald trump were dr. ben carson or somebody else, but he wants a vigorous debate out there. you will see very vigorous debate on immigration, on taxes, on spending, on the huge spew of regulations we have had that are --shing mall businesses

small businesses. we will have lively encounters in the next debates. host: is there a republican candidate that you would not support of this point? guest: no, i'm looking at the field. i want to see with a put on the table. i want to see how well they thele the pressure when brickbats come flying at them. ronald reagan demonstrated that he never lost his demeanor, which was one of his great characteristics. he demonstrated he could take the pressure, take the criticism , and not lose sight of the purpose for his candidacy. , that isk in history one of the mistakes that ross perot made back when he ran as an independent in 1992, was pulling out of the race and then coming back in. you cannot do it. if you are in it, you are in it until you win or are out. host: travis is a republican in detroit. caller: hello. speaking of new faces, i'm

generally have voted republican over the years, but recently i have become disillusioned with the party and i found an independent candidate that has been getting some press lately called deez nuts. i was wondering what your views on that were? what his chances are? if you wanted to know wanted to address that mr. forbes. guest: [laughter] names, talking about new you will see more -- there is the feeling that secretary clinton is on the revolt. of colorfule plenty stories and lively people out there in this process. host: 600 people have declared their intention and filed to run for president at this point. guest: i think there are a lot in the white house --

in the race for the white house. you will see a lot of unanticipated things happen in this campaign. john kerry may get in the race. there is talk about al gore. they said, look at all these democratic candidates. all of them are eligible for social security, what does that tell you. there will be plenty of grist for the mill for the comedians. nuts has been identified as a 15-year-old farm boy in iowa. guest: sadly, you have to be 35. [laughter]

host: robert is calling in from greenville, north carolina. good morning, gentlemen. i would like to ask you what you think about citizens united. i would like to ask you who was worst. when donald trump says he has bribed all kinds of politicians with money donations, is he the worst guy for bribing the politicians were for the politicians taking the bribes? thank you. on citizens united, which was a supreme court decision saying that companies and unions can set up organizations to supposedly independently support candidates, i think that case is a way waystation to finally removing a lot of the campaign restrictions that were put in the aftermath of watergate in

the 1970's, which has made our election laws almost as convoluted as our tax code. i hope eventually through the supreme court or through acts of congress, we should get rid of these restrictions. be allowed to give what you want to a candidate and to stop all of this convoluted stuff. make it open and transparent and be done with it. , instead get to that of the complicated way that you have to do it today. host: what do you think about set aboutd trump giving politicians money and they do what they want? guest: i'm sure there were times when he wishes they would do what they wanted. people are looking at his candidacy and what he is saying

because a lot of times money is given for access. ,f you allow absolute openness you should be able to do it. he got hillary clinton to come to his wedding. that was the only example he cited. i'm sure in the next debate, they will press him. host: is mr. trump a friend of yours? yes, i have known donald trump for years. his father was a major real estate developer. his father broke into manhattan back in the 1980's, so i got to know him way back then. host: are your daughters at all

interested in politics? guest: we have five daughters. none of them are interested in politics. none of them have exhibited any appetite for it. they follow it. they are glad they saw it, but it did not entice them to enter the arena area -- arena. [laughter] host: mark is a democrat. caller: good morning. i wanted to reiterate what mr. berniehad said about sanders. he is always labeled as a socialist democrat. we never hear about the s democrat -- capitalist republicans. we were a country founded on the

people. being a socialist type. bernie sanders is the chairman of ways and means. we have seen the squandering of wealth and the greed that can happen with a purely capitalistic approach. which is becoming stronger and stronger. we need someone that is there to speak for the people and he speaks to the people. a lot of people get a wrong impression when he is called a socialist. i wish they would just drop it and leave it as democrat. but i think he has a lot of great things to say and need some more airtime. thank you. host: steve forbes? guest: in terms of the label socialist, bernie sanders calls himself a socialist. in vermont, when he runs for the for thend before that congressional representative, on the ballot, you had republican,

democrat, and socialist. he filed as a socialist and he caucuses in the senate with the democrats. they like his vote, so they let him in the caucus, they put him as a member of their various committees. the socialist label, bernie sanders puts it on himself. that is not something the press did or his opponents did. bernie sanders will be live tonight on c-span at 7:00 p.m. from south carolina. we will carry that live. liveward, he will join us for a call-in program. bella is in miami. you are on with steve forbes. caller: good morning, mr. forbes. guest: good morning. caller: yes, good morning.

this is in reference to your run in 2000. i was a volunteer then in miami. guest: thank you. caller: you are welcome. the reason i did this. it is due to the factor that i was caught in occupied china as a child. my father was u.s. navy. long story. he served under admiral harry yarnell. fdr ignored the mock raid on pearl harbor that yamamoto covered. that is why never vote democrat. why did you back out of your run? i want to know whether this might happen in this next election. of both the 2000

race and the 1996 race, when you lose, you don't get the votes and you don't carry on. even though we came close on some of those are -- early contest in 2000, close was not good enough. when you don't win, you pull out and move on. it was not something i wanted to pull out of or voluntarily pulled out of. the votes were not there. host: do you agree with privatizing public education? guest: i believe, in terms of education, parents should have a choice. nevada has put in a couponarent can have a -- where parents can put in a coupon if they don't feel that their particular school meets the particular needs of their

child, they can put that child in another school. i think one of the things we're discovering is that one size does not fit all. a particular educational environment may not work for another kid. there are some kids who thrive in single-sex schools rather than coed schools. we have seen it with our daughters. each one is very different. what works for one may not work for another. it is not privatizing, it is giving people a choice. it gives people more choice if you don't go to a neighborhood that happens to a good school, you suffer. live,less of where you you should be able to put your kid in a school that meets the caps off needs -- meets the kid's needs. aanndk we need truth

diversity in terms of education methods. host: steve forbes, at one point in your runs for president you were pretty much in front of the pack. you were in first or second place in opinion polls. what is that feeling like? guest: it is a very pleasant feeling. [laughter] guest: you hope it can last. we were thinking, this is great, we are moving up. i had read enough history to know that those things don't necessarily last. this one did not. you move ahead, you do go through that hazing period, you do get the brick that. that is part of the american political system. we don't have a parliamentary system.

we see the process unfolding in the republican party now and we will see it among the democrats. you have a lot of people running , but people want to get to know them and they want to see if they can handle the job, handle the heat in the kitchen, as hairy truman put it. host: what do you think about the fact that iowa and new hampshire are still first and i can when it comes to the nominating process? again, even though i didn't win the process, i think it is not a bad process. in both states, you get very involved in what they call retail politics, even though you are running for president. you do get to know people. you get to know issues, you get to know concerns on a personal basis. you do not get those through position papers or reading polls or scrolling the internet. it is face-to-face. you get a real feel for it.

in iowa, you've got to demonstrate you can put together organizations. new hampshire is a traditional primary. to demonstrate going throughout the state that you can win the support with people looking at you very closely. they are not impressed with candidates because they see them all the time. in do not get in a bubble those states. the system is unlike any other. i have not seen a better one around the world yet. is an independent in chestnut hill, massachusetts. caller: good morning, mr. forbes. i would like to ask you if your political views are more conservative than your father malcolm. i have a brief comment about what you said about the schools. that that is true, but i think in these privileged

communities, like my own, we need to integrate more fair people are able to move into these affluent are better,there much better public schools. ,f course the more affluent their children tend to go to the private schools. i would like to know about your dad malcolm and how that compares with your views. host: i think we got it. thank you. steve forbes. had very father diverse views on a lot of subjects. i think i persuaded him on some things, like simplifying the tax code will before i got into politics myself. one of the amazing things about him was that each day he always had a fresh take on things.

he taught us, as kids, he taught us to have independent minds, to come to our own conclusions. we would have vigorous arguments around the table, especially with one of our younger brothers. even though he was very forceful, very forceful, he appreciated when you could make an argument that could make him change his mind. died 25 years ago, sadly, so i have no idea what his opinions would be today. he would probably very much opinion a -- i would very much appreciate hearing because he had interesting opinions on things. the housingbout issue? the public housing issue? guest: well, you shouldn't be having the federal government forcing people to move or not move or trying to upset local communities. ,n the education thing, again

as nevada is starting to do, give parents the means so that regardless of where they live, regardless of their circumstances, they can try to get a school or schooling method that best meets the needs of their particular children. to say, we must fill an apartment building here's a certain school. give people a choice of movement. people can live where they want and people should be able to go to schools that meet the needs of their kids. host: a tweet. what should happen to social security and medicare? guest: easy questions. not. [laughter] , even on social security though we have a troubled economy today and i think that is going to change in the next couple of years, we have enough wealth in this nation.

to meet the obligations of social security for those on the row graham now and those who are going to go on the program and 10-15 years. the real problem comes with younger people, teenagers, people in their 20's and 30's, there for will not be them if we continue on this current course. people who are on social security and about to go on it, don't worry. you will get your benefits. for younger people, we should phase in having your own with properount regulations, where a certain amount of your payroll tax goes into your account, you own it, not the federal government. the more you earn, you will end up, even if you don't go on the stock market, you will end up, by the time you wish to retire, you choose when you want to

retire, whether you want to do it at 60 or 90, you make the choice. if something happens to you, those assets go to whoever you want them to go to. right now, when you leave this existence, alls the money you put in social security, the politicians keep it. time,k this return, over would turn it into an asset rather than a liability. medicare has to be a part. we can meet the current medicare obligations for the next 10-20 years. i take issue with some of my republican party colleagues on that. it can be done. we need a more patient oriented system going forward, where you start to get real entrepreneurs coming in providing health care, more health care at a lower cost. we see little pieces of it like lasix surgery for the eyes where

it costs less than it did 10 or 12 years ago because you have the entrepreneurial forces at work. you put in more patient oriented system. peter, is that, patients are not the real customers in health care today. it is all third party. the patient is not the real customer. that is going to change and is starting to change. when it does, the problems, the huge problems, are going to disappear. i'm writing a book on that, by the way. host: when is that coming out? guest: the end of november. host: ken is in florida. a democrat. caller: good morning, mr. forbes. guest: morning. caller: my question is about the republican governing of the economy. i have been around since 1948.

without exception, every republican president has had a recession during their administration. some of them horrendous recessions like the 1982 and the 2007 recession. i don't want you to blame it on the democrats because eisenhower's recession was in in8 and george w. bush's was 2007, well into his administration with republican house and senate for the most part. that is what i think about it. of thewell, in terms recession, first of all, you did not mention the 2000-2001 recession. i begin to feel that one is bill clinton was leaving office. you can blame it on anyone you want. the economy was weakening

visibly in the late 2000. trigger point, in terms of good economics, that is not a partisan matter. i think the previous administration, republican administration, made a huge mistake in allowing the bekening of the dollar to done by the u.s. treasury department, the federal. that had disastrous consequences . we would not have had the housing bubble of the dollar had not been undermined in the early 2000's. john kennedy had it right on taxes. johnson passed it. a major income tax cut. kennedy did not muck around the dollar the way that does today. -- rock with ronald reagan with ronald reagan, the recession came with a terrible inflation of the 70's. we got the great boom of the 1980's and 1990's because of the

reforms that reagan pushed. in terms of taxes, if a democrat wants to have a flat tax, i would cheer. if a democrat wants a stable dollar, stable and value instead of what the fed is doing now treating it like a yo-yo, which is very disruptive, i would applaud it. there are no monopolies in terms of good policy. the is why i am looking at republican candidates right now who recognize the mistakes made in the 2000 and some of them are starting to put some very good proposals out there, particularly on the tax side. ,ost: kp potatoes tweets and medicare, medicaid patients are not the real customers. the next call for steve forbes comes from sean in cleveland. sean is gone. sorry about that. barry is an center arbor new hampshire. morning, mr.

forbes. the last time i saw you face-to-face, you are running for president in new hampshire and we had some discussions about mandatory age-based retirement for airline pilots. guest: right. caller: you are planning on getting together with the other candidate and seeing who was worthy of support. you would broaden this to eliminating mandatory age-based retirement in the federal service broadly. if i had been able to continue to work as an airline pilot, much as i don't like to take chances, i would have been contributing to social security instead of drawing on social security and drawing on society. if someone wants to work, they should be able to work and contribute to the general welfare. i hope that your position has

not changed and that you will continue to support this. host: we will get a comment in just a minute. very quickly, do you make a point of trying to meet as many of the candidates as possible in new hampshire and which way are you leaning as of today? caller: i'm somewhat of an independent. i try to meet and listen to as many candidates as i can. people asgs i like in diverse as bernie sanders, rand paul, ron paul, and ralph nader. these people tend to be mavericks. as i think steve was, a little bit, and still is. they all bring something to the table. i'm not really a fan of donald trump, but he gets a lot of support and attention because he is not one of the politics as usual people, as for example hillary clinton and jeb bush seem to be. host: thank you, sir.

steve forbes. guest: in terms of retirement, i think, at the time, pilots had to retire at the age of 60. it has been raised since then. in terms of that, where you have a physically, mentally demanding job, if you take a test every few months, psychologically and physical, and can do the job, you should be able to do it. the only area where you might have a fixed retirement is for high executive positions or boards of corporations where they tried to bring in new people. at the very top, yes, i could see having a retirement age where you go into something else and let others move-in, younger people move in. like for pilots, that should be dependent on your own capabilities. we have learned a lot since the 1950's.

when the pilot rule was put in, in terms of people's capabilities when they get older. host: what about the significance is of politics as usual versus mavericks, as barry put it? guest: mavericks, as barry calls them, often times bring new and change the course of debate. in terms of the flat tax, which i have been advocating, i think a number of candidates will be putting that on the table again. rand paul has already done it, others will be doing it. even though the u.s. have not done it, 30 countries have put in such a system and it has worked fairly well. yes, there is always a place. that is one of the virtues of the american system. it is not a closed shop. britain is almost impossible for someone who is not a professional politician to break into that system. and is. is wide open

think that is a good thing. when things are not working, people want new solutions. host: david is in goldsboro, north carolina. a few minutes left with our guest. caller: good morning, mr. forbes. guest: good morning, david. caller: i remember when you were running. you try to include everyone in their debts your campaign regardless of race and everything. as of right now, it seems that every republican is scared to discuss race. i don't see many minorities at the republican meetings and everything. they all think republicans are racist. i would like to know what your thought is on that. i remember when you were running and and you try to include everyone in your campaign. think they are not

willing to talk about racism and that is hurting them. that is hurting them politically. thank you. guest: thank you. thank you for calling in. this is what we were getting too earlier. the political parties must include many people to win an action all -- national election in the country. candidates such as rand paul have been doing a lot of outreach. hasrnor john kasich of ohio done a lot of outreach and when he ran for reelection as a republican, he did extremely well among minority communities because of that outreach. the candidates know this. they have been working on it. i hope they continue to do so. people want to hear the message and you've got to get the message to everybody if you want to govern this great country. host: his immigration an economic issue?

covers notgration just economics. it is social and everything else. one of the things that will happen as a result of this, you will not get anything from congress in a year or so. when you get a new president, one of the things that has to be done is you have to overhaul and simplify our current if you play by the rules and try to get into this country, you end up in a legal limbo twilight zone where they lose your files, you wait for years, you go through hell to do it and that is not right. people who play by the rules should not be punished. that is the first step in terms of dealing with our immigration talent. -- challenge. host: have you think john boehner and mitch mcconnell are doing in washington? guest: i will not call them

names, they are nice guys, but i would have -- i was hoping they would be more aggressive. in terms of pushing some needed changes in some of the regulatory abuses of this administration. that is part of the frustration out there, especially when you control both houses of congress. they have not found more innovative ways of getting some of these issues dealt with. there is still time for them to do it. host: we appreciate you coming in talking with our viewers. we look forward to having you >> 2016, republican presidential candidate, senator cruz spoke today at the iowa state fair. we'll show you that beginning at 5:05. during that speech, he criticized former president jimmy carter and his administration saying there were parallels between the obama and

carter administrations. here's what that looked like. >> scripture tells us there's nothing new under the sun. i think where we are today is very, very much like the late 1970's. i think the parallels between this administration and the carter administration are uncanny. same failed domestic policy, same misery, stagnation. in fact, the exact same countries, russia and iran openly laughing and mocking the president of the united states. now why is it that analogy gives me so much hope and encouragement? [laughter]

>> at 7:00 tonight, we are in south carolina, a town hall meeting in columbia south arolina with independent vermont senator bernie sanders. coverage of which gets under which 7:00 p.m. eastern here on -span. we'll hear fl republican governors chris christie and bobbie jindal and sunday evening republican governor scott walker holds a town meeting. book tv is live at the inaugural mississippi book festival

beginning at 11:30 a.m. and panel discussions on civil rights and history and the lives of harper lee. on sunday morning at 10:00, an author shares her thoughts on the president's relationship with millenials. saturday afternoon at 5:00, columbia university's professor on the preservation and political and cultural landmarks and the creation to protect them. on real america, three films on the pilot district project, a program administered by the johnson administration to help improve poor relations between the police and the community in rks d.c. after the 1968 king assassination and riots. get our complete schedule at c-span.org. this sunday night on drk college

stupid has been visiting the graves of u.s. presidents and vice-presidents since he was nine and documenting his adventures on his website. he talks about those visits and his interests in american history. >> the one grave site that everybody has getting to. >> vice president rockefeller. >> how did you do it? >> we were able to what my father describes as an act of god. my father walked the cemetery and saw this tree had fallen and crushed the fence and saw nelson rockefeller's grave and had to get me there fairly quickly. >> road to the white house coverage continues now with republican governor scott walker

and his recent town hall meeting in new hampshire. it's about an hour and 20 minutes. >> i thank the people who came out and help us set up and the meeting here. at this time, i would like to introduce governor scott walker as most of you know -- [applause] host: a few things about the governor that i'm sure everybody here knows but hope he can

pass ue the right to work in the state of wisconsin. [applause] hope hope even with all the union and the people sitting in the state house and threatening and things like that. but all caused a recall election and as we know, fortunately, he won that, too. [applause] host: and then went on to win the election again. he is doing something right out there. good conservative. it's our pleasure up here to welcome governor scott walker. [applause] governor walker: thank you. thank you.

thank you all. appreciate it. thanks. first off being here, i should start by saying this, freedom, endowed by our creator, defined by our constitution but defended each and every day by the men and women proudly wear the uniform of these united states. for all of you who are veterans, would you stand for a minute. thank you. thank you. appreciate it. [applause] governor walker: i particularly appreciate here being at an american legion post. the american legion has been particularly good for me. i got my first interest in public service going into any senior year in high school, 30 years ago, went to state college and picked me to be one of boy's nation. on the day i announced my

candidacy, i mentioned two people at the beginning, two veterans, a world war i and world war ii veteran who lived three houses up from me. and his american legion post sent me to boys state and bob who finished off 35 years as director of programming, he was my adult counselor and vietnam veteran from georgia, first vietnam veteran who had the honor of being the commander in 1990 and 1991 nationwide. those two men had an incredible impact on me. particularly to you folks in this post and other posts, on behalf of my family, both my boys went to boys state. ut my was governor of boys state. i think about the impact that the legion and the auxillary had

with boys state and girls state. i have gone ever year since then to speak to them. we have men and women who served our country and then came back and served our communities over and over and over again. we very much appreciate it. we are going to talk about freedom but we are going to talk about where it happens. and we still have people serving right now, many of whom are in harm's way. as you say your prayers, don't forget about that. the first lady of wisconsin is here with me as well. [applause] governor walker: almost like a date tonight. we had a couple of stops and few minute to spare and stopped at another legion post and had a miller lite with a couple of guys. we might smell like smoke. she's looking out for me.

but we had a good time. kind of like date night, but not really. we have been out on the campaign trail on our anniversary, february 6, which happens to be ronald reagan's birthday. i remember his birthday because it's our wedding anniversary. but i'll stick with remembering it because it's our anniversary. but it's an honor to be here tonight. i'm going to spend a couple of minutes talking and 45 minutes or so with the questions and have some fun. i'll try to turn around a little bit. like a guy backing me wearing a harley-davidson shirt. i'm going to come back in a few weeks and ride road king around the state and hit all 10

counties. we'll have fun going around nutch. not too hot, not too cold. might be color the further up we go. but we are looking forward to it. i want to start with maybe a summary and hear your questions, hear your comments and hear your responses. a lot of folks know a little bit about me. i have been elected not twice, not twice but three times and maybe you don't know where it started. november 2, 2010 i won election along with in my state everything was blue. everything was democrat and went all republican on that night. governor, lieutenant governor, both houses of the legislature, both u.s. senators, eight seats in congress, all of them were democrats. on november 2 of 2010, which happened to be my birthday. my gift was to the state, i said. but we elected a governor, lieutenant governor, two new

members of the house and we have the majority of seats. a new yous senator. a week later, i met with all the republican lawmakers. and our capitol was open so the press was there, and i told them then that the voters sent a clear message in making that kind of a shift. it was a fundamental shift from one party to the other. and i said what the message was, they didn't want to nibble around the edges but sent us a clear mandate to go out and do what i said we were going to do in the campaign. i said put up or shutup time. but it was true, i said voters would have every right to throw us out if we didn't do the things we said we were going to do. a lot of people don't know this and sometimes i have to remember that not everybody knows the story i have gone through, wasn't just taking on the

unions, union bosses and liberal special interests that poured millions and millions of dollars, not once but two times in a row, before that, the reason i said it was put up or shut up time and the reason i had to keep pushing was because the establishment in my own party wasn't that eager to reform things either. they kind of like the title, they like the position and the bigger office in the legislature but want to shake the boat. and we didn't give them an option and said that's what you have to do. we took on the establishment in our own party and once we did that -- thank you. [applause] governor walker: they did the pro tses and death threats and went after my family and the

recall. once we did the first big thing, suddenly you get a little confidence and it starts to grow. and we just didn't take on the hands of the union bosses and put it into the hands of the taxpayers, we fixed a $3.6 billion budget deficit and cut taxes by $2 billion. new report came out and said over the next couple of years when it's six years into my term as governor, do you know the amount of tax relief, $4.7 billion over six years. [applause] governor walker: we fixed our finances, too. rainy day fund is bigger. the pensions, one of only two in the country, fully funded. our bonding levels are down 20-year low and done the right thing. the schools are better. second best a.c.t. scores. reading scores are up,

graduation rates are up. unemployment is down to 4.6%. we have done other things. a lot of people talk about defunding planned parenthood. i defunded it more than four years ago because i knew it was the right thing to do. [applause] governor walker: i was kidding about being backed up by the n.r.a., i backed up our law-abiding citizens, i signed concealed carry so skit sense could protect themselves, families and loved ones. [applause] governor walker: as is mentioned, we game the 25th state in the nation, the freedom to work when you are in a labor union or not, going forward. [applause] governor walker: we restored the wisconsin g.i. bill to make sure we took care of our veterans,

not just those who recently came back. in our state, a blue state like wisconsin, we now make it easy vote but hard to cheat. vote uire a photo i.d. to in the state of wisconsin. [applause] governor walker: i'm going to talk to you in a minute with your questions in terms of my plans for the future and i have plenty of solutions how we move this country forward. i tell you that, because i think it's important because there are 17 republicans running. really some great candidates. many of them i know because people i have served with or got to know and have been supporters in the past that come from the private sector. i appreciate the field that we have. and you're not going to hear my violate reagan's 11th commandment and not trash the other candidates out there. [applause]

governor walker: i will say two quick things, one about the field and one about the person we hope to face or may face and that is hillary clinton. today, another judge said that what she did violated the government procedures out there, which i'll touch on in a moment. let me talk about the field and for a moment about hillary clinton and open up for questions. great field. probably the best field of republicans we have had since 1980. really quality field. many of you are here tonight and some are supporters and others say i'm figuring out whether this guy is worthy of my vote. those up in the air, here's my appeal, there are in this election, in this field of republicans, there are two groups, there are winners and there are fighters. there are fighters who are really good going after the problems in washington.

god bless them being there. and others are from the outside looking in and good at identifying the fight. and others are good at winning elections, some have won multiple times and won in really big states, but they haven't been in a lot of the big fights in the last couple of years. there is only one candidate of the 17 that's running for president of the united states who has actually done both, who has fought and won, not just three elections in four years but who has fought, won and actually got results without compromising my commonsense conservative principles. if that's what you want as the next president, someone who is not only going to fight but fight and win, fight and win for people like you, fight and win for people like your families, fight and win for the american people and get results without

compromising because i ask for your vote. that's the man i am and the governor i am and that's the kind of president i will be in going forward. i'm asking for your help and assistance. i would love to be your nominee because i would love to have battle with hillary clinton. [laughter] [cheers and applause] governor walker: some of you may have seen the video the other day, i was at the iowa state fair and thought they would intimidate me by busing in some protestors and i said i'm not intimidated. i took on 100,000 protestors and i didn't back down from them or the union bosses or the liberal special interests in washington or the leadership of my own party and establishment of my party. i'm not going to back down from any protestors or anybody in washington who stands in the way of doing the right thing. and i would love to take that

message to hillary clinton. because you see, hillary clinton isn't about the middle class but the ruling class and it starts with her and her family. they think there are a different set of rules for them than anybody else. the email server suggests one of two things and she is either illegal or incompetent. probably both. probably both. i mean as the judge suggested that she violated the rules of the federal government, but the more you look at it, she told us not long ago there was no sensitive or classified information or top secret information. we know there was sensitive, classified and top secret information. either she has violated the law by knowingly allowing top secret information to go over an unsecured server. think about that. it is sad to know this, but it's probably true that chinese and

russian governments probably know about hillary clinton's email server than do members of the united states congress. and the sorry part about it, every day she used that server. every day she used that server and compromised america's national security, she compromised and our family's safety and compromised every single one of you and your families and others across america, either she violated the law or she was secretary of state and didn't know what top secret information was. that makes her incompetent or illegal and either disqualifies her from being president of the united states. cheers and applause] governor walker: my response is, if she is going to their nominee. bring it on. i'm not intimidated by anybody

or even hillary clinton and i will stand up and i believe the american people not just republicans or conservatives, people in this country want a president we can trust. we cannot trust hillary clinton and i would love to make that case any time anywhere in america and with your help, that's exactly what we're going to do. [applause] governor walker: my wife is saying, shut up, scott. please. audience member: i have something for you when we're done here. after the 9 9/11 crashr there was a joint commission created in the house and senate and spent a year investigating what happened. they wrote a 900-page report that they produced in 2002.

one chapter of it was classified. 28 pages long and it was about who funded the attack. now, george bush said himself that money is the lifeblood of terrorist organizations. without the money, this couldn't have happened. this men were fed, clothed, housed, paid for their flight school for a year. half of the senators wrote an open letter calling for the declassification of it and it said saudi arabia paid the money for those men to attack us. now i know you're a fighter for the vets. a lot of men and women have died on the war on terror. we are now ready to send more of r young and women in another battlefield next to saudi arabia and no one has investigated if they are the ones that were

responsible. the 9/11 vicks tims have a lawsuit against saudi arabia. saudi arabia has asked to have it dismissed. they need this information urgently. this isn't old news. would you join with us in advocating for those victims of that horrible day and all of the people that have died since then and call for the immediate declassification of that chapter. and i give you the letter. those senators said there was nothing in it that would upset our national security. nothing was dangerous and that was 12 long years ago. [applause] governor walker: we need to have as much information that we have to make sure we don't make those mistakes again. the part of the report that i well that isn't the classified portion, it talked about flashing lights. that for years we had flashing

lights and we need to have as much information not just about prior to 9/11 and even what is happening today. you look around the world and the challenges we have, in fact i was supposed to be here in new hampshire about a month ago. i was going to spend a day riding on a harley having some fun and i had to cancel. and the reason i had to cancel, one of the four marines that was killed in chattanooga was from wisconsin. four marines were shot and killed that day and one naval petty officer shortly died after that. i went to be with his family and be where i needed to be as governor of the state of wisconsin and as a fellow citizen. the reason why i say that, though, not just with this, but in the days, months and years since there have been many, many examples of the flashing red lights that we have ignored along the way.

that portion portions of our government haven't taken action on. we not only need to have transparency but as much information as possible for our intelligence community, military personnel and local law enforcement to make sure we live in a safe and stable world going forward and we have to have the ability to do that. and as americans we need to share in that. lot of time has gone by since 9/11 and the threet since barack obama has been president and hillary clinton was secretary of state, we are less safe now than we were even before the president took office. that's not something worthy of running on. [applause] will i rearm our armed forces? governor walker: i gave you answers to questions that are not in theory. i signed an executive as governor of wisconsin that allowed all of our military

personnel, to be armed if our recruiting centers as well as those open and accessible to the public. i understand why at the end of the cold war there may have been decisions that they thought maybe back then things were changed. your question is, we are in a different world. our enemy is no longer something like communism which can be contained. r enemy is radical islamic terrorism not in just iraq or syria, but a threat around the world and potentially a threat here in the united states. our men and women in uniform are targets whether active duty, reserveists and members of the l -- national guard and they need to be armed. i'm not ignoring you over here. audience member: would you

require that the members of congress follow all of the laws that they pass? and if you do, how would you intend to institute that policy? and do you believe in term limits? governor walker: yes. yes. and yes. reverse order there. but term limits, yeah. if it's good enough for the president but should be members of the house, senate and federal bench. and i would say the president's eight years, why not 12 so it evens out between the house and senate. i have been in elected for a while. i self-practice term limits. either move to something else or move out. many years ago when i was elected the milwaukee county executive, i was about ready to move onto the private sector and saw a big scandal in the county at the time and anybody with any sanity in politics said, there is no way you can win this and

crazy to go into milwaukee county which is filled with three hoif-to-one margin of democrats over republicans. i'm looking to do it as president. but i think in any position you are there more than 10, 12 years, you become complacent, people are looking over their shoulder and worry about the themselves than the next generation. i was benefited by the fact that in my two chambers in the lower house, 27 new republicans were elected the year i was elected. a lot of them were citizen lawmakers and ready to put in a couple of years and go back to our jobs. that's what our founders intended. serve for a while and go back to doing something else. term limits makes sense. in terms of living by the same rules which ties into the term limits. i think congress should never pass a law that they can't live

with themselves. 100% believe that. how do you make that happen? it various in the laws themselves. i wouldn't sign new laws that didn't apply to them going forward. i'll give you one specific example that i can do through executive action and i'm not big on executive action, but you can undo things. so the list of things that i won't undo is shorter than the list of things i will do with him. everything from terminating the bad deal with iran and getting rid of the e.p.a. regulations but this one specifically involves congress. this week i announced my plan. we call it the day one patient freedom plan to repeal obamacare entirely and put patients and amilies back -- [applause] governor walker: i'm one of one or two other candidates that

actually have actual plans. i'm laying out real solutions but specific to your point. in our plan to make congress repeal obamacare immediately. part of the reason i'm upset with the house and senate leadership amongst republicans, if you have a house and senate, we'll repeal obamacare. they had the majority in both houses since january and where is the bill to repeal obamacare? i know he's going to veto it. show the american people that you have the courage to do it and make him veto and we'll take it to the american people and say here's the contrast. how we get it done. how are you going to make this happen? i said simple. we are going to send the bill up on day one and then on day one, that's why we call it the day one patient freedom plan, i'm going to sign an executive order that undoes the special deal

that president obama gave to the members of congress that doesn't require them to live under the same measures of obamacare. that executive order will force congress on day one to live under the same rules for obamacare like all the rest of society. [applause] governor walker: we believe once they do that, there will be a pretty big incentive for them to go past it. i'll take this one. audience member: i'm from conway. but i lost my son to a drug overdose 14 years ago. when i see our government not enforcing drug laws across the country, it bothers me. when i hear politicians talk about defunding for the immigration problem, i want to know -- i know you are going to enforce the federal drug laws, how can we get the states,

including new hampshire as far as i'm concerned, back in line so we can have better kids and don't have these problems and families being torn apart. would you defund money going to these states? we are losing too many of our kids. governor walker: my sympathies to you. i have two boys and can only imagine that kind of circumstance that you have gone through and my heart goes out to you for that. you touch on a number of things. one, we just need to stand up in general and start enforcing the law in this country. one of the problems of the current administration, they pick and choose the laws they want to enforce. a lot of these laws are better suited at the state level than the federal level. i'm not going to say i'm not going to enforce this one but enforce this one. when it comes to drugs, drugs like marijuana, there may be

somebody in this crowd that agrees with me, but i have worked with law enforcement and sheriffs who have said to me, they say don't legalize marijuana, because it's a gateway drug to all these other drugs. so i'm going to make that case. [applause] governor walker: something we have done in my state and we are talking to -- one of the first person to bring this up is the mayor of manchester and heroin that increasingly is takeing our people in in rural areas. and there are some that are more prevalent. but in rural areas and people don't take heroin, it takes them. and it is increasingly difficult

. but then also for our judiciary and legal system actions to help people not necessarily go to rison. >> the chairman of our budget committee his daughter nearly overdosed on heroin. it's a personal tragedy for him and his family. and we did a hope agenda, that weren't about greater incarceration but alternatives trying to collect more prescription drugs. one of the big challenge for our young people is they get hooked

first on prescription drugs that aren't theirs and don't think it's not a problem because it's not illegal. and with the opiate addiction, it drags them into heroin. for a while oxy got addicted to. we tried to look as many different ways to collect prescription drugs, providing incentives for local communities. help pharmacies and track who is getting certain type of drugs, particularly the young people. audience member: in 14 years after the death of my son, you are the first person i have talked to that knows what he's talking about. [applause] audience member: first of all,

statement about hillary clinton, you missed, she's responsible for the death of four great men and nobody points that out. i'm a totally disabled vet and several others in the room here that are disabled and stuff. and this is a problem with the v.a. and things like that. i'm sure you have been up on this and know what's going on. can i get your thoughts on it? governor walker: as i mentioned, thank you for your service. that's something the other day, veterans day should be every day and we appreciate those days when we call that out. i'm proud of what we did not only to restore our g.i. bill which is more generous. we opened a new veterans' home and increased the care. what is happening with the v.a. is a disaster. and it is sadly typical of the federal government because

nobody has been held accountable for the problems. and the problems and i often say this, we owe it to our men and uniform, those coming home and those home for some time, not only to access but to quality health care. for the men and women who have returned as late. and many times it's behavioral health care. they are not getting it in time. it's not just the quality but the delay, it's the wait. and so my view, we renewed accountability, not just resources, but accountability for actions being done within our hospitals, our clinics within the veterans administration for sure but while that's happening and you know it here, because new hampshire is one of the few states that already has broader access for the choice program because of the fact that proximity to a v.a. -- that's where i'm going, you have access to it, but it is a complete

abysmal failure. and not only within those regions like new hampshire, there should be a choice for veterans no matter how close they are to a v.a. hospital or clinic, we are going to make sure you get the timely and quality health care that is closest to you and if you don't, you have a card to take to a health care provider in the nation and we should demand of a free and just nation like america. [applause] governor walker: what will you specifically change obamacare? governor walker: the plan i talked about the other day. the question was what would i change in obamacare. my proposal is two parts. first step is i propose

repealing obamacare entirely. it's all gone. all the taxes, all the spending. the federal mandate, everything is gone. then, the replace is multiple pieces to it. with the changes we're proposing, the reforms we put in as well as the outright 100% repeal, i believe that alone and the reforms we are including in this package will see premiums for everybody, will go down. if you get your health insurance from your employer, you can continue to do that. your premiums will probably go down. for those who do not have access to employer-based health insurance. someone working part-time or going to school. whatever the circumstances, we provide a refundable tax credit that varies by age and people asked me, why by age?

the older people by a certain age brackets, the more your health insurance typically costs and goes up. so we provide refundable tax credit that's available to anyone in america who doesn't have employer-based health insurance to go on their own. they are not mandated, where it was a federal mandate. you have the freedom. we call it the day one patient freedom plan. you can go out and take that refundable tax credit and buy the health insurance plan you want. and we put in a series of other reforms that say no longer are you prohibited from buying it from state lines. if you are a small business owners, farmers and want to get together as consumers and go out and purchase it as a group, you can pool together and do that. you are not restricted. only pesk thing we put in there that's similar to what was in the previous laws, we say by

law, no person can be dropped from coverage or see their coverage go up because of a pre-existing condition or because they get sick. that's something i heard from republicans and democrats alike. so we put that in our plan. and then we provide a number of other reforms that help drive down the costs and put incentives for states to put in place meaningful reform so states can allow health care professionals to make sure they do procedures and tests based on medical needs, not because they are trying to avoid frivolous lawsuits which drive up health care costs. and part of an overriding principle, but the more we take out of the federal government and send it back to the states, the better. medicaid, i would send that back to the state government. [applause] audience member: if you are unemployed -- --

governor walker: you would get a tax credit. audience member: you don't get a tax because you are not employed. governor walker: you could apply for that and series of other conditions and our goal, and as long as you -- you would get several months if you went from employment or unemployment, you would have a place period to get an alternative plan, all those things tied together. but we want to help people get access to affordable and accessible health care. and we want it based on the freedom of the individual. no mandate or federal government, but up to that person to control not just to control your health care but control your money. one other thing i forgot to mention, for everybody, we put up to $1,000 as well if you want to have a health savings account. you can do that and lift the restrictions as to how much you

can put into that and carry those plans to your children or other family members. it's your money, you should be able to control it. "wall street journal" did an editorial and "national review." that said this is one of the est best alternatives to the government-dominated obamacare. over the next couple of weeks when i'm back here, we will continue to talk about big, bold solutions. it's not just enough to have phrases, you have to have solutions, you have to tell people what you are going to do and how you are going to do it. that's how we got done the reforms. we said here's our solutions and here's what we are going to follow up on. audience member: thank you for being here. as president, what are you going to do to sop union-dominated national labor relations board and roll back some of its decisions like the election rule

that just passed? governor walker: we are going to talk within the next month as we did with obamacare about reforms we are going to put in place when it comes to labor issues particularly not just with the labor relations board, but also with big unions. even president roosevelt, f.d.r. and people thought this wasn't true. but f.d.r. said there is no need for collective bargaining in the public sector, because he pointed out that unions were set up -- [applause] governor walker: unions were set up and once upon a time and still a good decent union that work in the private sector, but unions were set up many years ago in many ways to protect employees from their employer,

from long hours, which the government now more orless intervenes on. roosevelt's point was, why do you need a union to protect yourself from the government because we are the government. the government's the people. so is it protecting you but from yourself. what i did in my state by taking on the power from the big unions which was obstructing both state and local governments because i saw this vicious cycle, the taxpayers' money was going to be spent on wages and benefits and union dues that went to united states that use that money for political purposes and interview candidates and base their support on how many more employees and the bigger the benefits and no one was anyone advocating for the hardworking taxpayer. i got the biggest pushback from

a lot of republicans on because there were a lot of republicans that didn't want to take that on, because they didn't mind some of these other battles but in some of their jurisdictions they were getting along with the local union leader because they didn't have a contested race or shake things up. we inherited a $3.6 billion budget deficit and i said i'm not going to raise taxes or lay off 10,000 to 15,000 public employees. i believe there in smaller government and get there through reform and not pink slips and not going to cut couple of billion dollars out of medicaid. the good news what we did is our reforms much like the reforms we are going to talk about, are things that just didn't change temporarily, they transformed things long-term. we just didn't balance our budgets. we helped our school boards, cities, municipalities not just

balance the budget but run their government. in my state schools because of my reforms no longer have seniority or tenure, they can hire or fire based on merit and put the best and brightest in the classroom and schools are better because of that. [applause] audience member: i would like to have the question, what about the veterans who are trying to get a v.a. disability? i know some veterans that have been fighting for six, seven years, what will you do about that? i, myself, i have two caregivers, one of them is the vietnam vet who helps me up, does my bladder and bowl care. there is so much bureaucracy i have gone through just to get him paid. last month, i counted 16 people

that had to go through. i asked the department head, what's this bureaucracy? he said well, it's our checks and balances. what's your opinion on that? governor walker: as i said over here, thank you for your service. i appreciate that very much. couple of things. one, part of the reason why we need to take the powers and responsibilities that do not belong in the federal government and send them back to the state and local governments where they are more effective, efficient and more accountable so the areas where the federal government does have a legitimate role we can demand it does better. the problem with the federal government it's too big to fail. we need a federal government that is small enough to succeed. what i mean by that, you take the big chunks, send them to the states and work in a way that is more effective to the people in the states and to the american people and then whether it's in defense, social security,

medicare or in this case, veterans' benefits, similar to the question asked before, we can hone in and make sure things run. the federal government is too big and too expensive. some of those who don't like a big government, i don't hate everything in government. there are some places we should demand work and in terms of veterans' benefits, i think that is a prime example. if we history duties where they are most appropriate then in areas where the federal government plays a role, we should have a major impact. and that is because of both the civil service system and in part because of the public employee unions, in many cases, many of these areas are set up where we have little or no accountability. and when you look at the horrible stories we have heard about the v.a. system where we just had tragic situations

happen, who is being held accountable for that? we found that to be one of the big changes in wisconsin. we can hold people accountable and people are doing well, high performer can get rewarded, those who aren't will be disciplined and we need that accountability in the federal government just like we have everywhere else in society. audience member: what i see , deny, with the v.a. delay and the veteran dice. it is absolutely disgusting, i helped guide veterans. i already have my purpose. because i fought the system for so long, i guide other veterans and help them along and where to go. and i mean, it's absolutely drives me nuts. my primary care at the v.a., she wants me to quit smoking.

after dealing with the v.a., i got to light up a cigarette while i'm arguing with them. [laughter] audience member: if i can fix the bureaucracy problems -- governor walker: if i can fix the bureaucracy problems, can i get you to stop smoking. my wife works for the lung association. that would be my added incentive. two more here. audience member: any kind of plans direct correcting the fraud in the s.s.i.? governor walker: one of the best things we did in our state government is we created a new inspector's general to go after fraud. that was part of a several hundred million dollars in my aste, fraud and abuse program. hen it comes to medicaid and

social security, disability and other areas, we want to make sure we clampp down because people who legitimately need it, we want to make sure there are resources there. i go back to the problems, this may sound simple but one of the things i loved about reagan, he had big principles and told people to go out and implement them. e didn't get into every single issue. what i believe, i sound like a broken record and my sons would say nobody knows what a broken record is anymore. like ar scratched c.d. or repeating ipod. but i fundamentally believe one of the most important things the next president can do if they want to reform government, not just reform, but take that power out of washington and send it back to the state and local level. something you can appreciate here. when you think of the size of legislature and town hall

meetings, that's about accountability, right? for the areas where we do have a legitimate role to care for our fellow citizen, if we don't have so much of that there we could get our arms around it and it would be a priority. not just because we want to cut things. we want to make sure there are resources there for the people ho legitimately need it. audience member: thank you, senator walker. governor walker: governor. i actually work for a living. [laughter] [applause] audience member: last time the federal government worked for the american public was back in reagan days as far as i'm concerned. republicans and democrats working across the aisle trying to solve real problems. there isn't anybody in this room

that doesn't understand we have immigration problems, a federal deficit problem. today i read that the federal government has housing where people that are millionaires are now in public assisted housing and can't get them out because the laws are written. nobody is working for the american public. how are you going to get congress which is still republicans and democrats to walk across the aisle. because you are going to get the help. we need to work across the aisle because everybody in this country is frustrated today. [applause] governor walker: i agree. you're right. i agree. i joked about getting 100 calls after i'm done, but the few i know, but my regards that there are a good number of hardworking

senators. but it makes my point because what makes senators and governors, senators vote on things and governors have to get them done. the last time we elected a member of congress was 1960, americans regardless of party want to know if you can get it done. and one of the best training grounds is being governor. i don't care if you are democrat or republican. you can't hide behind anything else. you either get it done or don't. i said what's the difference between wisconsin and washington? we actually get the job done. and it's why i have won three elections in four years in a blue state. we just didn't carry republicans universally across the board, we on a 12-point victory of independents. they aren't necessarily moderates

we get some confidence we're going to do something about it. if you agree with everything i did, and not everything about it. they are going to hone in, not for themselves, not for the ruling class, not even just for and will just tell me, thethat point, to biggest thing i hear, and why fingers a number of candidates

that have been going up to the polls who have not been elected to any position is because people are trying to send a message that they are frustrated with washington, they are frustrated with politicians, they are tired of people making promises and not delivering on them. some people say there is anger, i angry about it as well. but it is not just anger. if edition is anger, people check out. become cynical, they become nonvoters, they give up, they throw up their hands prove what i hear from americans as they are people who are not just in me, but for you. you say i have kids, grandkids, i'm not giving up on america. i love america, i love this country. people to take things seriously, but i see it across the country as well and it gives me hope and optimism. people are willing to do something about it and stand up and say for my children and my grandchildren and all the others like the language and do something. i'm good to make this country better. i will take you to 19 to land out there and find men and women

who are willing to stand with me and do the right thing. that is the current president i want to be every single day. someone who will accidentally get things done on the issues that matter -- actually get things done on the issues that matter. i will take on the other party, i will take each of my old party. i want to what is great to make this country great again. [applause] >> how you change the current status of american power groups? especially with the care regulations? >> great question. the new release it just came out, they called the clean power plan and i caught the costly power plan. cost,it will tremendous and epa has in itself that it will have a marginal impact on the overall effect on the entire globe. for something that has a

fraction of an impact globally, we are going to caused potentially tens of thousands of jobs, particularly in manufacturing. in my state is about 20,000 manufacturing jobs. but you also series go up for most repairs close to 20% out there. that is a huge problem. -- i'm prime example of thinking about this and i have a senate market, so i love the sweatshirt. kids and eagle scouts can i think your campsite should be cleaner than when you leave then when he found it. [applause] clear, cleveland, clean water. that is what i want for my children, and hopefully someday after they have children, when i , for them iildren want them to have the same clean air, cleveland, including water.

of going up tonk eagle river and all sorts of beautiful places that looks at the beautiful scenery you have here. that is what i want for my grandchildren. but it want to make sure that my children have a job. so the way this president has others seem to think you could choose between one and the other and not both. they think we have to both out there. my point is we can have things that preserve our environment by the protector financial resources. all ofired believe in the energy policy that gives us as many options as possible. i would approve keystone pipeline the very first day was in office. also did asat, i part of our national security. make sure we work with our utilities, our public services, and others out there to make sure that we are

aboutted because we think airlines and all those other things that are important to you say. before 9/11 we were not thinking about big airplanes. we need to make sure that all the things that are vital to our way of life, telecommunications, utilities, trans rotation, all of those things are protected. we need a president that is on top of that and an administration that will take that on. it is incredibly insightful or someone your age to have a question like that. thank you. stick around, we will say hi. [applause] >> thank you for coming in visiting us. i think you will stick around and answer a few questions. ♪