turnout, if people are not paying attention to the major issues facing us, right wing republicans will continue to win. if we can bring people together around a progressive agenda, we can transform what goes on in this country and when the selection. host: on our line for republicans, good evening. caller: good evening. i'm a cancer patient receiving care through the insurance that was given to me, the one i actually wanted to -- i have been republican all my life. i'm frustrated with the choices we have right now. i'm fighting for my life.

because of the insurance i'm applying to the obama administration -- what do you plan to do differently if you were elected? mr. sanders: what we should understand -- i fear not every american does understand this -- we are the only major wealthy industrialized country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all of our people as a right. the system we have his way out of touch with where the rest of the world is. what i will fight for is a medicare for all. medicare is a pretty good system, we can improve it and we should expand it to all people. when you do that, not only will you provide quality health care for all of our people, you will get rid of the profiteering of the insurance companies and the drug companies.

when we do that, we can provide quality care for all of our people at significantly less per capita than we currently spend. host: a caller on the independent line, welcome. caller: it's very confusing, but the one thing i do know, on a religious principle, god himself appointed us to give 10% of what he gave to us. if i only have $700 a month, $70 goes where it has to go. the works if everybody pays the same percent. it would have nothing to complain about. the money that we do gather when

10% of our income is used towards the one thing that is needed, which is all the things you talked about, than there ought to be enough money. that's all i have to say. mr. sanders: let me approach the issue from a slightly different perspective. number one, we are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. the problem is most people don't feel that because almost all of the wealth and much of the income is going to the top 1%. what we have seen in the last 30 years in this country is a massive transfer of wealth which has gone from the middle class and working families whose percentage of wealth has shrunk to the top 1/10 of 1% whose percentage of wealth they own is almost doubled. i think if we address that issue

and redistribute the wealth back to the middle class, we can do enormous things in this country. we have to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. we have to public colleges and university tuition free. we need health care for all of our people. our child care system is a disaster. there's a lot of work to be done and we can do it. the problem is that so few have so much and so many have so little. host: let me follow up with this from jesse, a tweet saying i try to refinance my private school loans but no luck. how will you convince the banks to help people like me? mr. sanders: not a question of convincing the banks, it's a question of changing the law. what jesse is talking about is the absurdity of folks today who have student debts, we have over

$1 trillion in student debt for millions of americans. you are paying -- americans who are paying 10%, they cannot buy log refinance. -- by law refinance. the legislation will allow jesse to refinance. you can refinance your home, your mortgage at 2%, 3%, 4% depending on where you live. people are stuck with 10%, 12% interest rates on their debt. that is crazy. in addition to that, the government which holds much of that debt is making huge profits on those high interest rates. allow people to refinance and and the government profiteering on student debt. we can lower interest rates rise significantly and that is what my legislation does. host: chuck is next. our guest is senator bernie sanders.

the entire event is on our website. caller: i'm honored. i would like to say, we watched tonight, my wife and 18-year-old daughter, and we were very moved. i was a supporter but they are believers now. i was born in the eisenhower administration and i looked back to that time and i see a great country that invested in infrastructure and made great strides socially and with people apiece. we were great at that time and you are restoring that and i thank you, sir. mr. sanders: thank you very much. i think you make a very good point. dwight david eisenhower, president from 1952 to 1960, was a moderate republican.

yet he understood it was important to rebuild our infrastructure. under the eisenhower administration we created the interstate highway system and we did a lot more. what has happened sadly since that time as a result of the huge amounts of money spent by the koch brothers and right-wing extremists, the republican party has long forgotten its eisenhower heritage. somebody with the eisenhower point of view would be laughed out of the republican party today. the republican body has moved very far to the right. the democratic party, whom i caught this with, and there are some great people in the democratic party. we have to be honest and understand that money influences the democrats as well. what we need is a system which not only ever -- overturns this disastrous citizens united, but i don't think it's asking too much to have a government that represents the vast majority of

the people, the middle class, working class, low income people, and not just wealthy campaign contributors. steve, maybe one more question if that's ok. host: let's go to doug on the republican line. [inaudible] caller: i'm a republican. the brand has been destroyed. i voted for obama and feel like i was burned. he made a lot of promises that struck near and dear to my heart, and got none of them really. there's a lot of manipulation going on. i'm looking for someone i can back.

i'm very interested in what you have to say, but i have a very negative opinion of promises. i think the democrats want money and don't know where it goes. i don't have what it takes to require that it is going to the right place. mr. sanders: i'm having difficulty hearing you. talk closer to the phone. did you get my point on the democrats -- host: are you basically saying you are disillusioned with both political parties? caller: yes. very much so. mr. sanders: i think the caller

represents a vast majority of the american people. we had an election last november, 63% of the american people did not vote. 80% of young people did not vote. people are looking at washington and they are very disillusioned. they say look, i'm hurting, i'm working longer hours for low wages, i can't afford the health care, i'm worried about climate change, billionaires are buying the political system. who in washington is representing me? millions of people are saying nobody is representing me, to heck with the whole thing, i'm not going to vote. i understand that. i see in every speech i give, bernie sanders if elected president cannot do it all. i'm not making any promises for you. to be truthful with you, the powers of wall street, the powers of the large campaign voters, the powers of corporate

america, the impact of corporate media is so great that no president, no matter how well-intentioned, can do it all. that is why i believe we need a massive grassroots political movement in this country where people begin to stand together and when that happens, and when millions of people speak in a voice that says to the billionaires, sorry, you can't have it all, you are going to have to start paying your fair share of taxes, you are not going to continue sending our jobs to china. when people say yes, we are going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, we are going to make college affordable for all of our people, when people get involved, there's nothing we can't accomplish. i don't what to tell anybody that hey, vote for me, i got all the problem solved. not the case. what i'm trying to do in this campaign is not just get elected president, but to build a

movement that can take on the very powerful special interests which today control washington. host: some news of the day from the associated press, where vice president joe biden is reportedly gaining out his own way of potentially entering the race. if he were to enter the race, how would that change the dynamics of this democratic campaign? mr. sanders: i honestly don't know. i have known joe biden for many years. i like him, i respect him, a very decent guy. all i can say is it joe biden gets into the race, i will do everything that i can -- as somebody who has never run a negative political ad in his life -- i will do everything i can to debate joe biden, hillary, anybody else on the real issues facing the american people. how would ultimately plays out politically, your guess is as good as mine. host: this is the second of them a events.

how are you holding up? mr. sanders: we are doing great. two more tomorrow, then were going to new hampshire, then i will take a few days off. host: we will cover you when you speak at liberty university. why that location? mr. sanders: it's very easy to talk to an audience that is sympathetic to you. those are the people who come out to our rallies. it is very different to talk to a very, very conservative university whose views on many of the major issues are very different than mine. but i think in america it is a good idea for people involved in politics to start talking to folks who may not agree with them on every issue. and the issues i will raise at liberty university are issues of morality, something the university is concerned about, the morality of having so much

income in wealth inequality, the morality of having the highest rate of childhood poverty of any country on earth, the morality of why it is we are the only major country that doesn't guarantee health care to all people -- that is the kind of discussion that i hope to engender by going to liberty university. host: senator bernie sanders, thank you very much for sticking around after your rally tonight. we will see you on the campaign trail. mr. sanders: thank you very much. take care. >> we are less than 15 months out from the 2016 presidential election and questions remain over whether vice president biden will enter the race. martin o'malley welcomed the idea, saying, quote, it would be nice to have at least one more lifelong democrat in the race. speculation continues to build after it was reported this weekend that the vice president

traveled from his home in delaware to meet with massachusetts senator elizabeth warren and washington, d.c. we spoke more about the topic on this morning's washington journal. host: "u.s. news" and "world report" -- a trip to meet with elizabeth warren, as he mulls a caompampa. thanks for being with us. a weekend of renewed speculation. what is behind all of this? guest: there's a lot of activity we have seen from the vice president and his advisers. not only this unusual weekend meeting with elizabeth warren in which you left his house in delaware despite his public schedule saying he was supposed to come to delaware, came up to meet her at the naval observatory before going back down. we have also seen the vice president meeting with his longtime political aides, people

who have been with him for decades, reaching out to his longtime donors to see if they would be supportive of a future run, and advisers, the vice president tells us he is seriously considering whether he wants to get in the race, and more specifically what some of the factors are that he would need to take into account to see whether it is too late at this point to mount a viable bid against clinton. host: let's move beyond the speculation and talk about the mechanics of an entry into the race. many people forget that bill clinton did not enter the race until september of 1991 before the 1992 elections. in terms of the timetable to get on the ballot there is enough time. but setting up the organization, the money -- how does he do that? guest: it's a good question and they are looking at exactly that. one of the factors is that the huge instead -- head start that clinton has with upwards of $45 million in the bank -- joe biden

and his aides are looking at something like $5 million in direct contributions to their campaigns in the first two months, which would likely be october and november, just to be able to start opening the doors and campaign offices, getting some ads on television, and getting their delegates together to be able to qualify for the balance. -- ballots. host: the clinton campaign continues to move ahead with its own fundraising efforts. any reaction from hillary clinton's staff on the speculation about the vice president? guest: the reaction has been very muted and very careful. they have said, this is the sitting vice president, he certainly aren't the right to run for his party's nomination if he wants, and he will make his decision on his own timeline. they are trying to avoid making it seem like they are trying to push him out of the race. behind the scenes we have seen action from the clinton campaign that shows they are concerned about this and trying to lock up

support. everyone knows within the democratic world the joe biden tends to do well in south carolina and has strong support there. we have seen clinton sent her top aides down, the chairman of her campaign, james carville, who we all remember from her husband's presidential husband's presidential campaign, down to south carolina to try to log of endorsement, open new offices, hold public events and show even in the places where biden thinks he is competitive, clinton already has the support locked up. host: when the clinton campaign announced her intention to run for president, her staff said this would be a different kind of campaign, a different approach to the media and the public. have we seen that? guest: in somewhat ways we have and some ways we haven't. if you received a we saw the clinton campaign said they were going to try to start doing things differently, making her available for national interviews and putting her out more to take questions. as the e-mail scandal has continued to engulf her

campaign, we have not seen that play out. a lot of people have drawn comparisons in the weight weight have -- they have slowly released information about the e-mails to the way the clintons handle things like whitewater and other issues that came up long ago that they said they had learned the lessons from. it seems like there are some habits in terms of secrecy and privacy that they are adhering to that are holdovers from her previous campaign. host: josh lieberman, the story from "the new york times" counting -- pointing out that clinton will be in cleveland for a grassroots event. the next major political event will take place on friday, when she joins her other democratic presidential candidates in minneapolis at the summer meeting of the dnc. we will have live coverage of all of the candidates' remarks beginning friday morning. what do you think will be the buzz at that meeting on friday, among the party leaders and party officeholders?

guest: i think what everybody was to know from the clinton camp is, how much longer will the story continue to evolve and to grow, particularly as it relates to the fbi investigation and the justice department looking into some of her practices. democrats have this feeling that if this is all that there is and it is something the campaign is able to somehow put behind them, she could still be in decent shape, but i think people are really looking to see whether they can expect the remainder of the summer and the fall to continue to be dominated by headlines about her fundraising -- about her e-mails and other negative issues that could really we can her ahead of the primary election -- weaken her uahead of the primary election. guest: it's interesting for him

to be in a public venue like this when he has really been huddled in private for at least the next two weeks. he was in south carolina for one week and vermont for one week, but with a cadre of his advisers. we saw him leave the seclusion yesterday for this important ,eeting with another democrat who many people want to draft into the race, elizabeth. host: let me conclude with a simple question, what do you think he will do? .uest: that is a great question i'm hesitant to speculate, by think we would probably not be seeing this level of activity and drumming up of buzz and speculation from within the biting cap if he wasn't seriously considering it or leaning towards it.

i'm told that even though he might be inclined to run, there are still some family considerations and personal consequences. americans sitting if this is something that is really helping with mark for them to do so soon 'ster the vice president son died in may. the vice president making a last-minute trip to washington this weekend to meet with elizabet >> executive director for on church and state

separation. to unionizert football players at northwestern university. >> newsmakers is next. then a town hall event with scott walker. 8:00, are conversation with a college student who has visited the grave's of presidents and vice presidents since the age of nine. >>