campaign. at eight: 30 a.m. eastern a discussion on police reform. mckesson.is deray ♪ good morning, everyone. it is wednesday, august 20 six. lawmakers return to washington in a couple of weeks. what to do about the president's health care law is on the agenda. full repeal or smaller changes. the gop presidential candidates are laying out plans to replace so-called obama care. we want to get your ideas on reforming health care. here is how we will divide the lines. if you get health care through callffordable care act in at -- private insurance, the line is

-- at can also send us a tweet c-span wj or join the conversation at facebook.com/c-span. good morning. we will get to your thoughts are just a minute. first, let me show you the national journal headlines. house republicans really think that they can amend obamacare this fall. the health care legislative package is tentatively expected to move in the coming months. the inside of the story dylan scott reports that while congressional leaders continue to debate whether to pursue near full repeal of the act and gop presidential candidates layout replacement proposals, republicans are looking at smaller changes. it to theey can make president's desk. the ways and means subcommittee

chairman said that his panel could mark up health care tax legislation later this year. the bills related to over-the-counter drugs, health savings accounts, and perhaps most ambitiously, a repeal of cadillac taxopular on high-end insurance plans. it goes on to say the health care agenda will be determined in part by capitol hill's other businesses. lawmakers have a full plate when they return from the august recess. it goes onto say that other sources on and off the hill and dissipate some kind of health care package to get a look in the fall. the spokesperson for paul ryan said that in an e-mail and we areis possible, but not ready to announce anything and do not have a list of specific ills at this point. they are eyeing legislation, it could be small changes. tell washington what you think. what changes should be made to the health care system?

national journal mentioned, the gop presidential candidates are laying out what they would do if they became president. last week, scott walker in minneapolis described aspects of his health care plan. take a listen. in addition, you see the credits, incentives, and the lowering of premiums that we will see. we will allow people to buy a health insurance anywhere in any state. in the past you have been restricted over state lines. you can buy it anywhere. anywhere you think is the best spot. you can buy it outside of your employer, employers can do that as well. anywhere, in any state. we lecture, this is important, while we are repealing obamacare it entirely, one of the concerns that i've heard across the country in my state, is that we want to major that people who have pre-existing conditions, you will not be bumped off of your coverage, and will not race you to increase is because of a pre-existing condition or

because you get sick. that is something we do under this plan to major that you, as americans, are taking care of. host: governor scott walker laying out what he would do if you became president on health care. other republican candidates have put out proposals as well. what changes should be made to health care? evelyn in chicago gets her insurance through the affordable care act. what changes would you make? caller: good morning. what changes? at my point, i did not want any changes. it will be interesting what they come up with. i have the cigna health care, and i have been given two choices. that or illinois state because i have been with the university of didago since 1953, and i not want to leave that. so far, i am very, very pleased with it. pleasedat are you about? what makes sense to you? caller: everything that i am

involved in. they thought that i had diabetes, they still think that, myself.d it that is one thing. i'm highly involved in which medical issues that i am doing -- i've doing very, very well. what changes-- what i see for me? nothing at this time. host: what about the cost for you? how much was it before you got your insurance through the affordable care act? caller: i have done it medicare and social security. host: ok. emmanuel also gets health care through the affordable care act. good morning. what changes would you make, if any? caller: the changes? thinkly change that i can is making the whole thing more

transparent and more accessible -- who wanto want to sign up. host: what issues did you have with transparency and ease of signing up? issue that inly had was when i looked at how to options.nd all of the there were hundreds of different options that i had to really sit down and crunch the numbers. it was kind of hard to flip through the pages and see all of the different strings attached to each plan -- it was how much ,o i have to pay for, you know co-pays, and how should i pay for prescriptions. ofould see how, for a lot people, how that could be really confusing. host: what about the cost for you? how much is it costing you?

am -- i ammyself, i living in poverty. i make less than $10,000 a year. it is basically free for me except for a small co-pay for doctors. host: for you doing before for insurance? caller: before? man so ii am a young was on my parent's health care as long as i could be. host: he gets his insurance through the so-called obamacare. we will get your ideas on what to change with health care. scott walker has a pdf laying out what he would like to do you like to take a look at that. this is what the week put on their website. what scott walker and marco rubio do not want you to know about their health care plans. this, he says that scott

rubio are botho serious. they have laid out their plans. they contain things that are perfectly fine like wellness programs, a punch of terrible zombie right-wing ideas, like limiting people's ability to sue for medical practice, and preventing previous conditions, and also upping the cost for consumers. theythan anything else, are hampered by their refusal to deal with the world as it is right now. in the republican fantasy world, the rate of uninsured has not fallen dramatically, it has. the cost is outrageous and it will cost far less than originally thought. everyone who got insurance through an exchange hates their coverage, those people are actually more likely to be satisfied. towould cost spending

skyrocket, the opposite has occurred on both counts. it would bring job creation to a , but job creation has been excellent since the policy took effect. if republicans accepted that reality, they would say ok, the law has its problems, but let's figure out how to fix them. if that they would get agreement from the other side, because no democrats deny that the aca can be approved. your thoughts? hill florida.g you are getting insurance through the aca. what changes would you make if any? caller: i was getting insurance through the aca four 2014. got ae low income so i subsidy for $6,000, plus i had to pay $138 to an insurance subsidy, lessthe i had a $6,000 co-pay that i had

to pay $25 on each of my prescriptions. the only good thing about it was i had a pre-existing condition, so i did not have trouble finding a doctor. what they did not tell me when i got the aca, and the subsidy was that even though i pay the insurance company $138 a month towards it, at the end of the tax year i had to claim what of that aca subsidy i did not use, which was $5,700 out of the 6000. it made our taxes run us up into a higher bracket, which ended up taking almost all of my husband's so-so security back desk social security back because of the rate of having to pay that $5,700.

it is the first time i've had to pay income tax. i do not understand why the insurance company got to keep the $4700 even though i was month.138 dollars a it was added to my money. why didn't i get that money back in stead the insurance money getting it back? looked into this? have you called one of the health centers? caller: yes. i called and asked them. they said that was how the aca worked and money went to the insurance company. i was responsible for the amount that they did not use. host: you are saying, sandy, that you are no longer -- caller: i dropped it the first of the year, as soon as i could drop it. now, i am paying cash out of my pocket. 65 ingod i will turn october and i will not have to

worry about it. .ost: william in mississippi william, you get your insurance through your employer. what changes would you make to the health care system? caller: as i said to the lady who answered the phone this morning, i am an employer who provides insurance for their employees. before the affordable care act, roughly $2500was a month for 6 employees. it is now over $5,000. i am with blue cross blue shield and i get no answers as to why. we will drop it because we cannot afford it any longer. host: you are trying to provide that as a benefit to your 6 employees, now you have to say i'm sorry, i can't do that? caller: that's right. it has doubled in price. host: would you think your employees will do? caller: i'm sure they will sign up for the affordable care act.

i'm sure behind the scenes that is what it was designed to do -- force more people to get on and to pay for those who cannot do anything with it. that is all i have to say, thank you. alabama.sellville, private insurance. what changes would you make? caller: i would make a change to the way that we are billed for services in the medical field. of all of the fields there are , automobile,e health insurance, all of the others pay on the actual cost. health insurance is the only one the is paying $.10 on dollar on average. basically how you pay determines how much you pay. that is the problem. if you went to the hospital and you had no insurance you will pay 100%. if you have insurance, you are paying $.10 on the dollar. that welem is the way

pay determines how much we pay. you are gouging the uninsured. i had premiums that were just for myself and my wife and my children at $500 a month. as soon as obamacare kicked in my premiums doubled, my co-pays and out-of-pocket doubled -- it is the biggest scam there is out there. it is being worked from the wrong end. you have to work this from the source, which is the cost. if everyone was charge the same amount for services, or you could not charged the uninsured more than the insured, it would bring premiums down. it is not a matter of how much you are paying in premium, how much you are paying for services. host: was not that structure in place before obama care? caller: i don't know. to be honest, i was happy to say something going on with health insurance. i always felt that we were

paying too much to begin with. when i heard something was going to happen with health insurance, at first i was excited. from what i do stand, they only put part of the obamacare plan in effect because i assuming that big companies would be forced to buy health insurance and were given a break. they said we will delay this part of obamacare until later, and the only part that kicked in was the part that affected the people buying on the open market. most people have health insurance through their jobs, government jobs, and the ones not making a lot of money, lower incomes, are getting it for free. the ones in the middle having to buy it for themselves are always the ones having to pay the most, and they're the ones that got the worst from obamacare. the: what do you mean worst? you heard from callers who are ir costs wenthe

down, or they are paying more, but they're willing to pay more because they know they are covered or they can go to the doctor now. caller: if you have someone that is making $2000 or $15,000 a year, they are getting health insurance they were not getting more if they were at that poverty level. now getting affordable health insurance, almost for nothing. they are getting food stamps, section eight housing. a person making $15,000 a year makes the equivalent of $50,000 a year by the time you add all of the benefits. host: where do you get that figure, in case others are interested? caller: firsthand from people i know that are making $15,000 a year. when i see they're getting their income tax returns, they are getting $5,000 or $6,000 in free money. $800 aheir food stamps, month.

their grocery carts are full at the line. want republicans to do? full repeal or small changes? like towhat i would see, is when you are going to a doctor's office, if you are paying cash, credit, health insurance -- however you are paying -- i would like to see that everyone gets charged equally and fairly. i do not care if you are paying with health insurance, if you are being charged an astronomical amount of premium, you are on the hook for 100%. i have never seen that. my car insurance -- host: we got that point. i'm going to move on to other voices. before that, it is not just republicans who are talking about health care on the campaign trail. here is former secretary of state hillary clinton talking about the issue in new hampshire this month. [video clip] : we have to get smart about how we spend our hard-earned money so we get the

best result. thank you for your service and raising that issue, because i hear about it across the country. people are concerned about the lack of health care continuity. now that we have the affordable care act and more kids are eligible for treatment -- [applause] have a funding stream to take care of problems that are identified. often times, now, the issue is how do we get them identified? who is going to be on that front line? if the child spends seven or the day at of school, that is a great place to identify the problems and those that can be treated inexpensively add to the school site. host: we're asking you to weigh in. what changes would you make to health care? tom in florida. you get your insurance through

obamacare. good morning. you are on the air. caller: good morning. are you there? host: we are listening, tom. in daytona,e i live there are a lot of people, tourists come from canada and germany -- when i talk to them, i make sure i talked to them, i ask them how is your health care? how do you pay? how much does it cost you? they all basically say that we are a bunch of idiots. less than $1000 out of their pocket every year for a family plan. i ask again, how long do you have to wait to go to the doctor , and all of this? we hear about how you have long wait times. to be honest, they tell me that if you have something that is an emergency it is taken care of. you do not wait around with a

broken leg or something like that. if you have procedures that need to be done, it is just like here. you go to the doctor and you need an mri, or this, or that, you do have to wait, you might two weeks or a month. i think we need to get completely away from the insurance companies, do a single player plan, if not through where you pay through your , somethingto a fund similar to social security where .veryone will be covered you will get the insurance companies out of the business, because they will still be in business. they will sell car insurance, homeowners insurance, they will have -- there will be insurance. host: ok.

beach,s tom in dayton florida. many of you have heard about the iowa press conference by donald trump yesterday where he kicked out the univision correspondent jorge ramos. allowed to return to that news conference. the two of them went back and forth. we will look at what happened in iowa yesterday. [video clip] trump: who is next question marks that amount. you were not called. sit down. go ahead. no, you don't. you have not been called. univision. go ahead. go ahead. go ahead. sit down, please. you were not called.

mr. romos: i have the right to ask a question. host: and i will yesterday donald trump was holding a press conference and sparring with univision's reporter jorge r amos. he was about to return and they went back and forth about the immigration policy. getting tore still know most of the republican contenders for president. less than half have formed an opinion of any republican candidate except for donald trump and jeb bush, partly because of this the hispanic views of most of gop candidates ranged from mildly positive to mildly negative, except for trump which is deeply negative. there's this from the financial times this morning. trump's troubles party on immigration.

what he is saying on immigration is troubling some in the party, i say this because republicans need the hispanic vote to win in 2016. while mr. trump is throwing red meat to the predominately white republicans in iowa, -- anics comprise it also accounts for 11% of the electorate. one million young latinos are entering the electorate each year. that is from the financial times. we'll talk about this coming up with bill kristol here on the washington journal. we will get his take on the politics of the 2016 candidates. this is in the headlines. that donald trump is going after fox news anchor megyn kelly. take a look at the headline. and then the tweets from donald

trump yesterday. i liked the keli file that are without megyn kelly. perhaps she could take another 11 day unscheduled vacation. he tweeted this from one of his supporters. that can town, i hope not for long. this was tweeted. i could not be more proud of professionalism and class in the face of all of mr. trump's verbal assaults. you and getting your ideas on ways to reform the health care system. deborah is in mississippi. you get your insurance -- you have private insurance. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a letter from my insurance company. your planned benefits will not change if you increase your deductible.

now, i was at a $5,000 deductible. if i increase my deductible to 7500 dollars, i get a certain price. if i increase it to $10,000 i get another price. it keeps going up. i really do blame obama care for it. i drive an old ford, i have a $900 a month telephone bill. i cannot afford it. i will have to join the ranks of the takers. i do not want to be a taker. we have a long line of hard workers and our family, and traditions of hard work. we do not take handouts. obama is forcing me to take obamacare for health insurance. i am fixing to have to go to the they cant and see what

do. i'm sure i qualify. i am sure i have qualified since the day it began. i did not want obamacare. i'm a proud american. i do not want a handout. it is forcing me to. i have increased my deductible two times or three times just to afford it. now, what use is a $10,000 deductible? what use is that? in chicago, illinois. you get your insurance through daca? caller: yes. was in 2008 when it hit, and my company closed its doors. they gave us the choice after that of one month insurance. us on our own. i try to do the right thing and pay for insurance. i found a cheap hmo. after one year my premiums went up to $600, and i went through

my savings, i went through my iras. i almost went bankrupt. i had no choice except to go that route and everything like that. i would not change a thing. just like that woman said, she had to go to it. it did help millions of people get some kind of health care. when you go to your doctor or hospital, it will not make you bankrupt, which i almost did already by trying to do the right thing and keeping some kind of private insurance. like the senator from wisconsin, you can go anywhere and get it. he is not saying when you go somewhere to try to get it, then it premiums they are offering you. when you are 55 and older, they are extremely expensive. you cannot afford it. what you're talking about governor scott walker had to

say. we showed you that earlier. he was in minneapolis last week and talked about his health care plan. here is senator marco rubio, the republican from florida. he was in iowa on tuesday and summed up what he would like to do on health care. [video clip] mr. rubio. we have to replace it with something that gives every american the opportunity to acquire the health insurance they want with their own pretax company across state line that will sell it to them. we will create millions of the best jobs this new century has. host: what are your thoughts on changes to the health care system question mark you just heard the florida senator say what he would do. what do you think? caller: for me, it has been a nightmare. before obamacare i would see my physician and pay $85 for an office visit. he would write a description. no plan, i cannot afford it.

i made $20,000 a year. since then, it has been a nightmare for me and millions of americans, hard-working taxpayers. never before in my life has anyone ever forced me to buy their product. he got around it by claiming it was a tax. now, they have manipulated it. they have worked in collusion with the tax companies. it is a cash cow for them. it needs to be repealed fully and replaced with a free market. if the company does not beat that price, i will go somewhere else. plain and simple. it has been a nightmare, and i never thought this would happen in a free america. host: on twitter, dave says it has to be single-payer, no questions asked. what ever solutions we find for health care must include cost-cutting and getting in line with other industrial countries. and making health care a

commodity. making health a commodity is just plain wrong. since caller: i want to thank you for taking my call this morning. i think it is wrong. i agree with people -- what people are tweeting. it is wrong we are assisting the insurance companies and making more of a profit than ever before. profitve that making a off of a human rights such as health care is immoral. the insurance companies are immoral in the way they make it profit off of people who are struggling every day to pay for insurance. because i wasy able to retire from my teaching job and retain health insurance at a good cost, a good price and i don't have to rely on the

programs that have been into place. everybody should be able to have affordable health care and obamacare was something that obama really worked with the republicans to try to into place. now the republicans are turning on the very program they agreed to. what's ironic is that these people running for president are saying they can go to any stage. if the republicans not letting people sign up for obamacare in certain states. they are talking about going across state lines that people are being allowed to sign up -- aren't not being allowed to sign up for it and republican states. house republicans are looking at another effort on full repeal of obamacare or smaller changes when they return this fall but i also have to do

with the budget. and the controversy over planned parenthood. "the washington post" editorial --

and then there is this in the paper this morning from "the wall street journal" -- many of you are probably watching the markets this morning. this is from "the miami herald." yesterday beijing tried to stop

the freefall and cut interest revive thebid to economy. it seems to have worked for a short while but in the end, more turmoil is expect did today when the markets open. "usa today" has this headline --

the papers are also noting that this situation in china could delay an increase by the fed this fall when the federal reserve had initially planned to increase interest rates. from the front page of "the washington times" --

back to our conversation with all of you this morning -- what changes should be made to health care? yourntonio, texas, you get insurance from your employer? [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] i have to disagree with the lady who was previously on. the republicans never agreed to this. not one vote for this law came through republicans. it was all from democrats. the competition across state

lines would be a wonderful thing. if you made all states allow the commercial establishment that want to have many clinics like cvs and walmart and walgreens, they want to have many clinics where they can catch these things before people get so ill for a real reasonable price. i think insurance should only cover things you need. i will not be having any more children so i don't need a lot more services. why should i pay for that? that's a good way to figure things out. start cutting things out before you start raising prices. i don't think they should allow discounts. i think they don't pay the doctor that the.

doctor eighth the any has to suck it up so the poor next person who does not have insurance will have to pay the whole fee. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] what changes would you make host:? i am on medicare but i have a problem with aj who called an earlier. he stated that anybody who is but theyder $11,000 get all these benefits. i'm here to tell you i am on $1052 pernd i make month and i have to pay for my medicare and i get snap benefits and i get $16 per month. i do not get section eight housing because they did away with it in our county years ago. i do not get any benefits. i am very poor. i don't get any actor benefits.

host: what would you like to see happen with health care? aller: i think it needs to be single-payer system and i think they need to get direct to the companies. they pay an enormous amount for drugs. prescriptions that are $900 per month. they are not covered by any of my medicare benefits. i have to pay if i want them and i cannot pay for them. host: take a listen to bernie sanders who is running for the democratic nomination for president. he had this to say in south carolina. [video clip] i live in burlington, vermont, one hour away from the canadian border. the canadians guarantee health care, everyone of their men, women, and children. in the u.k., they guarantee

health care to all of their people. germany and france and scandinavia does it. every major country on earth does it accept us. that is why i strongly believe in a medicare for all single-payer program. i believe in single-payer but that's not what congress believes in but the congress did pass and the president did sign the affordable care act. it's a modest but important step forward. eligibility for medicaid, millions of americans now have health insurance who previously lacked it and it's a good thing. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] host: -- bernie sanders. what changes would you make to health care? caller: good morning. i happen to be a retired scientist. i'm an avid reader of the

national geographic. 2010, theyof published a chart comparing length of life to health care costs. in the united states, we spend approximately $7,000 per person in total health care costs. no other nation comes close to that. countries were around $4000. i started researching why health care costs are so expensive. what i found out was amazing. health into three sections -- trauma, disease, and wellness. in the instance of disease, the american lung association reports there is $600 billion we spend per year on disease.elated if you divide that by the number of people who would normally be 21+, you are looking at each

aside $600 just to pay for smoking-related diseases. i used that technique in my research. what i found is that we spent $500 billion per year on basically five choices. they are smoking-related disease , trauma -- if you are under the influence and driving, we spend approximately $35 billion per year in our trauma centers and hospitals treating that. in the united states, there is over 80,000 rapes per year. for each individual who has to suffer that type of experience, you're looking at probably $12,000 in total cost for rape. the numbers all come from nationals like the institutes of health and the cdc and the national institute for children's health and the fbi website. i took a look at everything.

we have 45,000 women taking drugs while they are pregnant and our newest citizens are born addicted. i said that's a total of $500 billion per year that we spend which is approximately $1500 per adult citizen. care or any kind of insurance plan, you cannot pay for that until you address behavior or you create awareness. the way that i thought we should do something like that is to create a budget for it and each and every one of us have to contribute to something similar to a payroll deduction which is considered high risk, high cost. , we takeake that out all of that out of our normal premiums. before you go to the doctor for a sore throat, you've got to set aside $1500 per year.

it's like many other issues we have in our society. no society can afford to pay $500 billion per year in a system which discusses the cost. we are at a point where we have to address behavior. host: i will leave it there so i can get on a couple of more calls. --iana caller: i am from kentucky. in kentucky, we have connect. all states were able to come up with their own form of the affordable care act. wonderful., it was over 3 million people who did not have insurance now have insurance. personally, when i signed up, i was making over $21,000 per year. i was 30 years old and i was a and that would be the most expensive form of insurance

is what hyatt always thought -- is what i had always thought. with the subsidy, i could get it as little as $.10 per month. the one i chose was $10 per month. there is no co-pay. to $25 arens for up covered. doctor can be the up to $500. host: no changes? caller: unless we go to universal health care, no changes. pennsylvania, private insurance? what are your thoughts? caller: i think that's a good indication of why this thing does not make anybody change their behavior. he smokes and he's getting rewarded. the whole situation is i will support governor jindal, thank

you rand paul, thank you ted cruz. they want to repeal the whole bill. the lady called earlier about the health insurance and how she had to pay $5,800 out of her social security. that's because it was a gift to the health insurance companies. the total repeal of the health insurance mandate because rummy to pay for everybody's health and care needs when those health needs are not mine, this whole thing that hillary says about the schools, we have a funding stream. she'd sure doesn't she has no right. what will they muster in the schools to get some children on ritalin and some programs they don't need without parents consent? these people have been taken power from us for years and i don't want to pay for anything i'm not going to use like vaccinations, flu vaccinations. i want to subsidize my own health care and i do not want to be required to pay for everyone

else's care so they can get things. choice.heir if they want to kill babies, they can pay for it themselves under the affordable health care act. repel the mandate and go rand isl and ted cruz and kindle doing good and scott walker and stop making me pay health insurance. host: that was the list of potential republican nominees in the 2016 election. when weour next topic talk to the weekly standard and later, we will talk about police reform and the efforts of community organizers at the center of the ferguson and baltimore movements. we will be right back.

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8:00, more from the atlantic conference in new orleans. at 9:00, we will show you president obama's trip to the region and remarks on the recovery effort 10 years after katrina. hurricane katrina anniversary coverage all this week on c-span. "washington journal" continues. back we want to welcome bill kristol, the editor of "the weekly standard." we are looking at the latest of move lastmp ar night and what does it do for the party and immigration? so far, the voters are not letting their opinion of donald trump spill over to the rest of the republicans. -- a critic of the is

excessive critics of donald trump and people who worry so much about him. there is no evidence that he is furthering the republicans. the matchups and states against hillary clinton and donald trump is not strong for the republicans. so far, i think the trump campaign has been a bit of a circus i don't think donald trump should be the nominee. he has raises some issues that are usable and is captured a sentiment that is real and the other republicans can learn from him and channel him in a more responsible way. so far, the republicans are doing better in this presidential campaign than the democrats. if you go back six months and ask where they were, they talk about hillary clinton and she has been damaged in the republicans have had crazy campaigns because of donald trump at novick damage. host: you don't buy the headline

from "the financial times?" he troubles a lot of party insiders and those who are liberal on immigration. he is troubled by some of the things trump says. they were all troubled in 2014. these were the same people that set up the republican house does not pass immigration reform this year, republicans are doomed in 2014. they cannot win states like colorado which has a large hispanic population. suddenly the republicans picked up nine senate seats. i don't buy the argument. says "the financial times" --

guest: look at donald trump and if you think he is a representative republican, the average republican -- he is donald trump and republicans are saved by the fact that he is so famous. his brand is unique so no one thinks he speaks as a republican. is it better to be the party that is concerned about there being so many illegal immigrants are better to be the party that is basically for total amnesty for everyone who has come here? i think it's better to be the first. i don't think the american hugec is on board with legal immigration and unmonitored illegal immigration. think republicans should be anti-latino. they went over the line in the last couple of years and mitt romney said some stupid things. mitt romney could have gotten

40% of the latino vote and still lost the election. it was not key to the election. i have no problem with being more hawkish on immigration. there are better ways to say that the donald trump has. host: what about the weight jeb bush talked about it monday? [video clip] focusing onid i was a specific targeted kind of case where people are organizing to bring again women into the country where they have children so that children can become citizens. tot is fraud and we need enforce the law. we need to create a more secure border not just at the border but across the spectrum. 40% of the people that come here illegally came on a legal visa. and portion the immigration laws needs to be a high priority.

-- put more resources >> how will you refer to these issues? >> give me the name you want me to use and i will use it. guest: i sympathize with jeb bush. there are some people who illegally, cross the border because of their interpretation of our constitution and our laws. children born to women who are physically in the united states whether you are here legally or illegally become citizens and that triggers all kinds of protections for them and their relatives. that is not something we should be passive about. they are here illegally so we should enforce the law. term was the use of the anchor babies a slip of the tongue? guest: i think it's just a term that has been used a lot for these babies of people who came who wererposely

pregnant to have the baby. i much or how many people there are. he is not referring to people who were born to illegal immigrants. he is not referring even to who are settled in. he is referring to a phenomenon which is a real phenomenon. host: this is from "the new york times" --

guest: i love when the new york times gives republicans advice and gives them good marks. they believe the law should be enforced. liberals have become so extreme and immigration. their view is that anyone who shows up at the borders should be let across. a pregnant woman should be let across in their baby should be a citizen. fine, let them debate that. the times does not want to debate immigration. many want cheap labor and think it's a political matter and it's risky to deal with immigration. it's not going to hurt republicans to speak about immigration. debatese interesting

about the numbers of illegal immigrants but these are policy questions that deserve to be debated. i would prefer to be in the republican shoes. maybe they will make some mistakes and offend a few people rather than the democrats who are in lockstep on a liberal view on this except for bernie sanders. inhas thought about this talks to working-class people, he realizes there is a problem with having a large number of immigrants legal or illegal coming in and taking lower wage jobs which some americans might otherwise get. host: this was your feet on feety -- -- this was your on monday -- -- tweet not sure what he's thinking you for. you have said donald trump has peaked. guest: i guess he is thanking me. i was a little puzzled.

there is the clip of donald trump joining a pro wrestling exhibition and being part of the show. he has learned something from wrestling,love a pro insulting the opponent, over-the-top rhetoric, the showboating. i don't think we want a president who does that but he is entertaining. i talked to someone went to his talk in alabama. anti-trumpt really but it was a fun friday night and he was interesting and entertaining. mean when it comes to very or march, they will vote for him. i don't think he will keep going. he has stabilized. people thought he would disappear.

he will say something and everyone will jump on him. the media thinks the media's powerful that if they criticize him for his treatment of people that every supporter willfully and that's not how it works. he had a meteor rise. i think he will stabilize. i don't think he has much upside beyond that. i could be wrong. he could be a phenomenal. i don't think so and the rhetoric is not what people want for president. i'm not panicked about trump. donald trump is very self-aware. he does not understand politics. the people who understand washington have been this -- been for this for decades. donald trump owns a lot of

businesses and depends on good pr that appeals to customers and consumers. he has not dealt with madison avenue guys how to promote. has had a lot of fun hanging around people who have thought how to promote their brand. he is doing a good job of it in a way for now. i think ultimately, elections are different and that will eventually -- reality will hit in that way. i think voters are enjoying the trump phenomenon for now. calls,et's get to the that he, a democrat. caller: mitch mcconnell created donald trump when he got on national television and said he was going to work to see that president obama be a one term president. than the house republicans went in lockstep with him and did not

help the president to anything. of the inauguration, they all got together and had a meeting that they were not going to help the president. if you don't have anybody working with you to help get anything done, people get angry because nothing is being done and that's what created donald trump. thank you so much. host: let's take that point. people are dissatisfied with the political climate. mitch mcconnell created donald trump on the conservative side. to fighthappy to have president obama. they don't get enough credit for supporting president obama whether it's afghanistan or the trade bill. that's the single biggest achievement of the last year or so.

the republicans have tried to do on national security issues. for my republican point of view, some of this is fair and some is unfair and the congressional leadership is viewed as weak, not taking charge and not standing up to the president and not passing much. donald trump has capitalized on that. republican voters and independent voters are unhappy with the political class in general. host: does that concern you for the party? guest: it would be great if the country were in great shape and the political class is doing a great job but you have to ask the question -- sad that the citizens are unhappy but maybe we should look at my mirror. maybe the voters are right. policylosing our foreign and the economy has been weak and we have the stock market crash. legislation that have

passed that have not worked well. -- anger canoters lead you to make foolish decisions. foolisht want to make a decision out of emotion. i think voters should be legitimately angry but then think seriously about what is a better direction. thinking moret seriously, they will move away from donald trump and some of the other republican candidates. i think the other candidates have a responsibility to donald trump. it's a good field and republicans like me have been saying for years that it's a better field in 2012. many governors and senators and serious candidates. i think they have impressive but most of them have

run lackluster campaigns. host: you wrote that in your last campaign. they say the rest of the field is not what it should be. jeb bush may be the nominee but he has not dominated the way people hope. they said scott walker and ted cruz would make it and ted cruz is riding -- is rising and scott walker not as much. none of them has quite clicked. donald trump has made it hotter because he has dominated and at such a big field. it's only before labor day but i think these candidates need to look in america little bit when they get finished pulling their hair out over come. talk about the

issues. had serious health care reform. it is a worked out proposal that has a lot of details. it helps people who don't have insurance. it does not involve the regulatory nightmares of obamacare. different republicans have different versions of tax credits. scott walker gave a good speech have they emphasized? they should do a better job as a candidate and ignore donald trump for a while. they must say obamacare is what conservatives dislike about president obama and every republican is committed to repealing it and replacing it and here is my replays of -- here is my replacement and let's have a discussion about it. unimaginative in

presenting their own ideas. host: richard is next, independent. you are on the air. caller: thank you, my first question -- will you support donald trump if he wins the republican nomination? i was a 42 year democrat, union construction worker, and i voted republican this last november for the first time in my life. voted because i was upset with barack obama lying to me about the horrible care act and what it would cost me. i lost my doctors and i lost everything so i said enough is enough and i got to looking at the data. i looked at my grandchildren and i wondered what world would be there for them. my grandson in 15 years will be 18 years old when iran is for nuclear power

to come into view for them. then i looked at mitch mcconnell and what he has not done. nothing on the affordable care act. he has given away the ability ,or congress to have the 2/3 now it's the opposite, i think you know what i am talking about. if you are holding your nose up at donald trump, are you doing the same to me? i am a democrat and i am done with the democrats. i want some conservative leadership, something that will work to save this country for my grandchildren. i'm an old man i want someone who will say we are going to do everything we can to make sure there is a future for your grandchildren. will you support donald trump? i admire the work you do. not always agreed with

you but i am on board now. guest: thank you. richard speaks for a lot of people. some of the unhappiness of the congressional leadership is probably based on accepted hopes of what you can do with barack obama as president. he is a strong president but is not yielding on everything and he has a lot of power. i share some of the criticisms of the republican leadership especially on iran giving in to require the 2/3 vote to overturn what president obama has presented. i'm glad the gentleman has voted republican in 2014 and i hope he has a republican nominee to vote for in 2016 that speaks to his concerns. i have three grandchildren who are boys and i don't want them to grow up in a world with iran

having nuclear weapons. i share that sympathy. i don't know if i would support for donald trump. i don't believe i could vote for any of the democrats. not -- iink we should am not turning up my nose at anyone. i know a lot of people who like donald trump. and a certains chunk of them support donald trump. they are conservatives but i am not convinced he is the best republican nominee. need to see -- let's say he wins iowa and new hampshire and then he will have to say what he will do about the issues. he will have to talk about who we need to his administration. it is not my first choice and he is flamboyant. it would be better than the

alternatives. i might say he is also not qualified. he could put us in a terrible position in but maybe another conservative would rise. for himot criticize him but i'm not sure i could vote for rand paul on foreign policy grounds. people who support rand paul have a different view of the world and i do. i am not obliged to take loyalty tests. on foreign policy, i have a quarrel with donald trump. if trump stays up to 25% and wins iowa and looks like he will win, at that point, the level of scrutiny changes. some people don't do well when they get to that level.

ronald reagan in 1979 was dismissed by many elites and people turned on the spotlight on him and he knew what he was talking about. and a a serious guy strong conservative and was willing to take unpopular positions and explain them. that will be the question for donald trump. host: this story is from "the new york times" -- he will likely talk about iran. the joe biden rollout over the past month has been impressive. they conveniently found out what his son told his father. there is a great detailed account of that.

we get the meeting with elizabeth warren on saturday. only two people in that mating hemeeting but it seems like is thinking of running and he is trying to get her support. then he has lunch with president obama yesterday and we get the sense that doesn't obama gave his blessing to a joe biden run. that was somewhat confirmed by the white house press secretary. the moment i saw the piece a month ago, i thought he would run and i think he wants to run. i think he will run and i think it shows -- if you said the six months ago, hillary clinton was the favorite but that's not the rate -- case anymore. the conventional wisdom in washington is to wait six weeks until early october and the first democratic debate will be

then so he will get in before then. wonders whether he will get in sooner like labor day. joe biden has support among labor and it will be a working-class guy that gets in. that contrasts hillary. he has not done that well when he ran for president before. little bump in the install out. it could be early october with clinton, sanders, and biden with less than 30% in the polls. i think elizabeth warren at that point has to look in the mirror and ask if she should run. reallye democratic party want hillary clinton with all of her baggage or bernie sanders who was 73 years old and a socialist from vermont.

biden who is 71 years old and has run twice before. he is not exactly a fresh face. elizabeth warren is a fresh face. andparty has these moments some people come to what a party wants at a certain time. i am not a liberal or a democrat so it's hard to put myself in their shoes. i talked to a trough a lot of liberals and democrats and elizabeth warren is where the party is print she won dramatically in 2012 and is anti-wall street and has an i and other issues and would be the first woman president. that's a good one to nominate. sometimes an life, if you want to do something the way it ends up, i think elizabeth warren in october could get in the race after biden. in biden getting establishing the principle that the field is not closed. in, why can't she

get in? he could do well and could win the nomination. formidable ticket with the two of them but also maybe he does not do so well and elizabeth warren could get in and she's the one they have been waiting for. it would excite you as a liberal democrat to have elizabeth warren in 2016. the: let's get back to calls, bill in virginia beach, a republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. i will make this as brief as possible. there is more to say than i have time to say. due to the ben ghazi incident and the poor agreement with iran and the wonderful aca bill that everyone voted for but nobody read all the way through, i cannot allow myself to vote for any democrat at this point in time. i will vote republican.

it may not be the person who gets the nomination by the republican national committee and that may not be my first choice but i will have to go with the republican nominee. to talk my son into an investor ship on this presidency. save thelso like to national debt. we might implode ourselves from within we don't have to worry about iran. i would like mr. kristol, if you mighto much it increase the national debt by getting rid of obamacare and putting in something better in its place come how much it would save on the national debt? plan: i think the walker was complicated and controversial. it was save some money compared to obamacare. i think $1 trillion over 10 years.

it will not solve the problem by itself but it would be a better health care system and will have more cost controls. this caller and the caller before was the first time he voted republican. that's why i am optimistic as a republican. generally speaking, voters like to turn over the white house after eight years anyway and i don't think president obama will leave with a high approval routing -- rating or should he. joe biden has been vice president for eight years and hillary clinton was secretary of state for the first four years. forink she is responsible of the foreign policy catastrophes. i don't think bernie sanders is far enough into the mainstream. i think elizabeth warren would be the strongest nominee because she would be a semi-clean break.

she is left-wing and i think it would be a good race. she is beatable but she might be the strongest. republicans are in reasonably good shape. like many republicans, talking , no one has quite caught on among the candidates. someone may not catch on and one of them will win and he will be fine. like we are waiting for one of these candidates like walker or cruise or rubio, someone may be has not gotten in who would really catch fire. andld trump has caught fire he has probably obscured the efforts of the other ones. i don't think he will end up being the nominee. ands entitled to run entitled to fight and i admire what is doing. i admire the way in which he

ignores all the finger wagging from these political people. the rally in alabama on friday it was a big stadium it will be half-empty. that's pretty stupid. take a smaller room and fill it up. it's idiotic area the fact that you turn on the tv. it's much more exciting to see him in the university of south alabama. you want to see a real show. you can have them in a hotel ballroom that looks very cloud -- crowded. it shows that trump has a better feel for the stagecraft of politics that many people who have paid a lot of money in washington dc to state political events. host: columbia, missouri, democrat. caller: good morning, i have a

question on immigration deal thatwas passed bipartisan was sitting on john boehner's desk. why wasn't that passed? guest: that was passed in 2013 by the senate. , 80% ofans in the house them were against it. the speaker never brought it to the floor. , evenre people look at it people who are open to it had problems with it. interesting case study were the conventional wisdom is they will have to pass it. john boehner wanted to. the house republican people on the back than had been elected in 20 oh said this is not what our constituents sent us here to do. host: this is from the front page of "the washington post" --

guest: this is typical of what party establishments do when they panic. it will backfire and infuriate every donald trump backer that the rules are being changed because one guy is running and he is doing pay well? we did not have one of these before and i am against it in principle. i would not vote for pat buchanan for president of united states but he got a lot of votes. i am not allowed to run what i want to do? i think that's wrong. host: let's move on to chris in illinois, independent. caller: good morning.

comments about earlier, the immigration talk. i heard recently that immigration surmise are starting to be conducted in spanish. i am a 23-year-old independent and i'm pretty open-minded. cultures but it don't feel we should assimilate so much to foreign culture. it is america and i am proud to be american. maybe we should try to real that back in. guest: i don't know about the ceremonies but my grandparents came over and did not speak english well and never spoke english perfectly. other languages at home and their kids went to public school and learned english. the americanization of

immigrants is something america has been good at over the decades and centuries compared to europe. we have backed off from that because of multiculturalism and i think that's a mistake. one can be pro-immigrant and respect america's immigrants passed in present that it does not mean it's not important that everyone share the same culture and be able to read the declaration of independence and the language it was written. that's kind of important to study it in school. if you don't know english and you, over legally and become a citizen in your english is not perfect, you are as much a citizen is anyone else. read lincoln's speeches in spanish, that's fine. there are multilingual newspapers in america and mats legal. -- and that's legal. countryic life of the

is conducted in english. and betterasier really to conducted in one language were some countries have two equal languages. i agree we should do better at americanizing our immigrants. democrat from clinton, maryland, you are up next. you should remember the funny looking little guy with a mustache many years ago in the 30's who walked around disparaging people and trying to make the most out of other peoples situations and people loved him. he was very entertaining. this guide trump has a lot of parallels to this individual. guest: i think that's unfair. donald trump has lived in america for his entire life and employed people of many races and deal with different

ethnicities and genders, there is no evidence he is anything like a nazi attitude but one race or another. host: we will move on, republican. caller: good morning, c-span and god bless america. when i started listening this morning, the discussion centered around the new offensive racist term anchor baby. in the same vein, there is a name that has historically stood for slavery, the kkk, jim crow laws, segregation, lynching, and race based abortion policies. isn't it time to ban the term democratic party? it's worth reminding people that the democratic party has a checkered past on issues of race. in general, it's a mistake to reopengate and

historical wounds. every pre-things they can be embarrassed about. there are many individuals who have things in the past that they wish they had not done. people have to be held accountable for their actions. we should have a civilized debate going forward about the country. i don't think donald trump is a bernied i don't think sanders is joseph stalin because he is a socialist. there is a big spectrum of views in this country. those people are all operating within the democratic process. host: does what mr. trump says on immigration hurt the party? this back-and-forth continues kelly and other fox anchors have stepped in. hurt the republican

party with women? contributor a fox for a decade but now i am with abc news. i think what donald trump has set his distasteful. it doesn't same intelligent to pick a fight with megyn lkelly. what's the point? they are doing their job. an awful lot of people said nasty things about ronald reagan when he was running for president. i do recall him personally picking fights with individuals men or women. he just said it was ridiculous. show a thin skin on donald trump's part. ailes and donald trump are

pretty savvy as far as ratings television. sincererump is being when he says you are unfair to me. hurt either fox or trump much. he political class notlains about the voters being serious. who is covering this? there is a political class of reporters obsessed with what trump set about megyn kelly. aboutdia mainly cares media and donald trump understands that. he picks fights with them and then makes up with them. he gives interviews 24/seven.

for someone who doesn't like the media, he is spending a lot of time with them. i think the media comes out looking a little silly from this. i sympathize with one of the scholars, the political class, the media needs to look in the mirror more. i'm sure it's true of me as well rather than blaming the voters host: what about the nuts and bolts of a campaign? mr. trump has put in place a robust field operation in iowa. candidate toly plan to volunteer for all 11 days at the iowa state fair, by in amr. trump's fly helicopter produced headlines --

he seems to be doing the work you need to do. guest: i think that is right. i said you should take them seriously. that's him seriously. know the iowa professionalor - operators. trump has hired some good ones and he has hired a lot of them and they are serious people. ony want to be in the fight february 1. i do think trump plans to run. the media should get off this notion of he is a weirdo and oddball, when is he getting out?

he is a candidate with 25% support. we know plenty of instances have haddidates 25% support and don't win the nomination. let's treat him like a candidate . there is too much talk of him as if he is not serious about this campaign -- whether he is willing to spend $100 million of , that's another question. host: we will go to georgia next. independent. the earlierke what man said about the democratic party. you have the progressive my question is

about donald trump p. if donald trump starts picking fights with the republican party and the fox news channel, do you it might be setting up a come backin order to later if his numbers start to fall and then complain about the republicans and how they mistreated him? and lead votes from the republican party to a third candidate. guest: good question. isoriginal fear about trump that he would run as a third-party candidate. oddly, trump's success in their publican party so far and the fact that he is staying in will make it harder for him

to run as a third-party candidate. what is the rationale? he can't say that he hasn't had a chance to make his case to republicans. he's getting more media time than any other republican. he will either win or he won't win. it will be hard to explain in march or april that i will not win the nomination, so i'm running third-party. a lot of his support will go away. a lot of people want to change the course of the country. they don't think president obama has been taking us on the right path. i am more reassured that trump want run as a third-party candidate because i don't think it's credible to say that he hasn't had a fair chance. he has had a pretty good run here. he is on every major show come every network, covered in every newspaper.

what does he have to complain about? host: dan is next in texas. democrat. caller: good morning. this about donald trump running a think this is republican game, good cop bad cop. these -- it says these remarks because come in the past, the gop, the republican party has not carried the latino vote very much. they were in hot water with the ladies. women. what donald trump is doing is criticizing them a lot so that the other republican people who are running can more or less be sympathetic.

and though the latinos women voters vote mainly with democrats, i think that is one game they're playing to try to get the gop. republicansh the were so clever to set up a good cop bad cop dynamic. no one planned it. it is pretty chaotic, specially because the party establishments -- trumpaten has been more savvy than most about politics. i don't think anyone planned this. a lot of politics is also reacting to these -- a lot of

for friends thought bill clinton -- he isd up sympathetic to middle american concerns. was good at taking -- he did not plan that. he distanced himself from jesse jackson in that moment. the other republican candidates need to think -- trump is here. he is not magically going way, he will not say one bad thing about megyn kelly and everything will go poof. they need to think about how to take it manage of trump. jeb bush, to his credit, showed that he has been thinking about this. deciding i will take on trump. i'm not sure he did it in the

best way possible. he looks like he is wagging his finger at trump instead of that's why hasn't he township to --ne-on-one debate challenged him to a one-on-one debate? rnc prevent trump or bush from in the nominee -- being the nominee? why don't they come to c-span and have a two-hour discussion about public policy issues? let's see what they say. is a good test for the other republican candidates. how agile are they? you have to be that -- clinton showed that in 1992. reagan in 1980.

it ultimately depend on the reagan campaign being alert to the possibility that they could -- you havee ones to react to what's happening on the field. the other candidates are still stunned by trump and haven't figured out how to react yet. host: we would take both of those candidates coming on the show. we would like them to talk to viewers. thank you very much. we are going to switch topics here. coming up next, we will talk with deray mckesson, talking about police reform in this .ffort as a community organizer we will get to that conversation right after this short break. ♪

>> this sunday night on q&a, brookings institution senior fellow talking about counterinsurgency in afghanistan. >> the u.s. made improvements in years, we- in those don't know how it will end.

to see fivessible years down the road there will be civil war in afghanistan. isis is slowly emerging in the company. it's much worse than the taliban. we end up five years down the road in a new civil war in afghanistan and a new safe haven for the taliban and isis, i will say it's not worth the price. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome to our table deray mckesson, a community organizer and black lives matter activist.

guest: i got a new car and drove nine hours, did not know anybody , post on facebook that i'm going to st. louis and my friend connected me with somebody and i ended up in ferguson. i met a ton of people who have remained close to me and we did a lot because i did not have any friends or anybody to talk to about it. i have to tell somebody and twitter became my somebody. host: you have your phone with you. you became known by your twitter account. what was happening in ferguson. you stayed. you have taken this on. you were working as a school administered. now, you are doing this full-time. guest: i devoted my career to kids. i used to teach sixth-grade

math. i then became a public administrator managing human capital work. and i got to st. louis understood the killing of michael brown, it's this thing like you have to be alive to learn. i worked to make sure kids have great teachers and the teachers are supportive. some kids will never be in school -- tamir will never make it to high school. mike never made it to college. you have to be a life to learn. host: why now? what is going on now in our country? guest: one year ago, people thought there was a crisis in st. louis with regard to police violence. one year later, people understand it's a crisis across the country. only three states where the police have not killed someone. police have killed 700 people in 2015 and people acknowledge this

crisis and understand something has to change. this is a new company where there is a national conversation about policing. host: what do you want? when comes to police reform in this movement, what is the goal? guest: we just launched something called campaign zero that is a 10 point plan to get to the end of police violence. we know there will not be one solution to get us to the end, it will be many thanks. there's the idea of safety that has to change. we know the safety of communities is predicated on more than the presence of police. safety is about strong schools, jobs, or kforce development -- workforce development. host: the website, joint joinign zero --

campaignzero.org. guest: demand emerged in communities across the country. we looked at the best platforms put out by community organizations. we look at the 21st century task force on policing. some groups in new york city -- we looked at a host of other things. work to make sure it was research-based entry to this protest and making sure we have a holistic understanding of how to and police violence. host: how is your plan different than what the president wants to do with the 21st century task force on policing? what are you not hearing from washington that is in your plan? guest: a couple of things. we are really focused on police union contracts.

they build in mechanisms to ensure that police officers are not held accountable. interesting examples like personal files are purged. discipline can never stay permanently and an officer's file. it would be purged on a tenure cycle. you look back and they could have a record of discipline but it's been a purged. officers can only be interviewed in one hour chunks or a total of four hours a day. we are trying to make sure we lift up the visibility on those issues so we can correct it. there is a different way to get the truth when it comes to officers. officers are protected. you see things on light detector tests. -- lie detector tests. for an officer to be subject to a lie detector test, the person accuses them and has to be subjected to a lie detector

test. host: any other specific policy? guest: use of force should only be put in place where there is life.nt risk of a loss of it should not be just based on a reasonable standard. the officer should only be able to use deadly force if a person is actually going to die. that is a much more progressive whimpered we are looking at training and saying there should be racial bias testing. the task force talks about training but does not go as far in these areas. host: what do you make of what you're hearing from the presidential candidates? let's start with the democrat side. bernie sanders, couple of his rallies have been interrupted by black lives matter activists. what do you make of what you're

hearing from him? guest: what i see with the overall approach of the democratic candidates, people are challenging the integrity of the democratic process. weple are pushing and saying should not have to protest to get our issues heard. offcould have more to this by addressing issues before people confronted you. but sanders, we see a really strong first draft around racial justice. i think o'malley has a really conference of plan that enters a -- comprehensive plan that answers a host of areas. host: have you met with bernie sanders yet? he tweeted that he would like to meet with you. guest: i have not yet met with him. he has met with

protesters in other cities already. many people should be engaging candidates during the process and i hope to engage him as well. host: you praise martin o'malley but he came under fire forcing all lights matter. that's all lives matter. sayt: we've heard sanders white lights matter on npr. we heard hillary say all lives matter. which is shocking because the movement has been moving prayer. -- for a year. i'm hopeful that the platform will be there opportunity to show their listening to the movement. -- they are listening to the movement. , protesters matter would not be protesting. we would not have to call out

the chance that black lives matter because we know it is not as true as it should be in this america. host: let's go to calls. robert in henderson, kentucky. independent. good morning to you. you're on the air with deray mckesson. caller: good morning. i'm a community activist here in henderson, kentucky. originally born and raised in los angeles, california. i've experienced police brutality. thank you for your service to the community. what can be done -- the politicians will not address this issue. none of the national politicians are going to address this issue. ministers are holding a meeting to commemorate the anniversary of the million man march. is black lives matter participating in the event?

what do you need to do to bring this to the forefront? donald trump is not addressed it, bernie sanders has. not.clinton has the democratic and is have all expressed interest in addressing these issues. -- candidates have all expressed interest in addressing these issues. the hillary platform has not yet . in terms of other people --lying pressure, the rally many people will be a part of that in the movement and i think that will be a promising opportunity. it's important that people continue to apply pressure to all parts of government to make sure reforms come about. people have been asking for it because people understand the crisis and i'm hopeful we can continue and all the candidates will understand -- the gop

-- we saw carson right black lives matter because he suggested this idea that exceptionalism is not justice. got out of what he understands to be poverty, racism does not exist. he has not yet acknowledged the existence of systemic racism. that anger is distracting us from what matters most. the right to be angry, but we have to stay smart. guest: it is a wholesale willful ignorance -- he is not calling out systemic racism. he is saying injustice exists. we know injustice exists across racial lines.

what carson does is wholesale ignore that. , racism doesn't exist anymore. we know exceptionalism is not justice. host: bill in arlington, texas. independent. caller: thank you so much for taking my call. , a suggestion say -- we can see that there is random drug testing across the various disciplines that provide -- as an airline pilot or construction worker or even hospital employee. how is it the police are able to get away with it?

maybe that is something that could be considered. thank you so much. guest: it's interesting, when you look at the police contracts, there are some that say that officers cannot be drug tested. some don't allow for psych evaluations. the officers can get a psych eval, but only if the union and the city agree on the person conducting the eval. the union could say we don't agree and they prevent that from happening. there should be strong language that ensures that officers are held accountable if they use drugs. it should be a part of the contracts and not just a part of city policy. in virginia. is, i agreeomment with the black lives matter, that is a very, very good thing

that's going on right now. we also have in poor communities -- theysmall-town cops are constantly harassing. the cameras on everything. when they do something, it can be shunned. my uncle years ago was killed by an officer in jail. nothing was ever done. my father always told me come if you go to be pulled over, make --e you get in a lighted somebody's driveway, whatever. it seems to me that they need to be tested frequently for psychiatric issues and we need more people of color in the forces.

i am white, but i think we need more people of color and that is hispanic and all. to change these testings that they do for them to be police officers so that it can be more diverse. host: what is your stance on body cameras? guest: i believe people should have the right to fill the police. this film the police. the police are public service. film ithould be able to to hold the police accountable. even with cameras, people are not being held accountable. imagine all the stuff we would know more about it people had the right to hold people accountable by filming. host: psychological testing for police officers? guest: there should be psych eval's. indication that the officers unfit for duty, the police department should have

every right to send them for an evaluation that has them leave. host: what about having more african-american or latino police officers? in baltimore, some folks in baltimore were saying the black officers can be just as harsh. guest: it's really question of what does it mean to engage in safety and communities that are baltimore, the majority of the officers don't live in the city. that's what people are asking about. violence is close to her, too. it's hitting communities across the country. people are having a national conversation about it. we are not advocating adding more police. to useo figure out how the resources we have and have a more expensive understanding of safety. host: the washington journal last week, we spoke with offered

durham.- alfred this is what he had to say about young people in your communications with police officers. [video clip] >> it seems to me the certain youth in the community, they have these rites of passage they have to be disrespectful to authority and adults credit that is creating problems and challenges. we are walking along a line of contempt. kids are starting fights come using profanity. we wonder why they have problems with police. we are looking to create a -- workingdiversity to build those relationships and test lead them on the right path. the mothers have to be part of it, to o.

the issues started home. police are the face of government 20 47. 24/7. we are that body that when they make the call, they expect us to be there. when we try to build relationships, they don't want no part of it. it is challenging, but we are up to the task. ignored the deep trauma that people have around the police for reasons that makes us. at a traffic stop in a traffic stop and the police officer approached my window with his gun drawn. i was maybe going five miles over the speed limit. he called the police the government. we think the police are the strong arm of government. the police are forcing their way into communities and lights and

breaking those lines in ways that are unproductive. --hink about adolescence what he does in his talk, he says that challenging is criminalized. we have criminalized the challenging of authority. we should not. buildpeful that he will systems that don't criminalize it. there are white young people across the country challenging authority and not ending up in programs or anybody's jail. that should be the same for kids of color as well. host: anne in new york. republican. caller: i hardly know where to start. i think these black lives matter groups are so disruptive. the black lives matter, but i listen to ben carson, walter williams, david webb.

i wished this young man would read some of their articles. all lives matter. instead of playing the victims, this young man should go to chicago and help those people realize, yes, their lives matter , stop killing each other. that is my belief. instead of disrupting people thosend go in and take women and bring them to places where these black lives matter being killed by black lives. help them. that is my belief. appreciate the lives of -- anyice and mike brown of the other people the police have kill. the protesters are not playing victim, they have been victims of police violence. violencethe issue that

runs across a spectrum. there are people working to end violence across a host of spaces. we are focused on this issue of police violence. you talk about this idea of black on black violence. we fix to make sure that institutions that create the conditions that create tension and community's. no one is playing the victim emma people have been victims. i push you to read about the aarrien.tamir and dairy host: chris in charlotte, north carolina. democrat. caller: i was going to ask the same thing as the previous color. that's caller. -- previous caller.

i don't see anybody protesting the streets for the lives people of color. you took a defensive tone -- it's not authority were pushing. you are breaking the law. when you break the law, there is a criminal offense that you have broken. criminal offense comes with a consequence. if you don't like the law, you need to vote for people that will change the law. not demonstrate against police protecting the communities against people killing each other. guest: tamir rice did not break a lot. when i think about the victims of police violence, these are not people who broke laws. they were black in america and they were victims of police violence. i'm willing to have a conversation, but i also want to talk about the facts. when you say people broke the law, that is simply not true. i push you to do more homework before you make accusations.

host: talk about the evidence. talk about the facts a little bit more. 21styou look at what the police task force commissioned it, when you look at what you will have put together, what have you found about people getting pulled over? you look at the report about the ferguson police department which shows a disproportionate policing of black people. that was important for people to see because we've been telling the truth about police all our lives. the truth is becoming mainstream because of social media. the doj report productively highlights the over policing up like community's. that is a pet or have seen play out across the country. in cleveland where they killed

tamir rice, we have seen that play out. we will have been telling the truth about police find their entire lives. people should be alive. tamir rice did not have to die. he had a toy gun. jones was asleep in her grandmother's lap. there are so many people who've been victims of police violence -- the police officers are never held accountable. there been few officers who have experienced any type of accountability. that is also a problem. engage,vate citizens there is an apparatus to hold them accountable aggressively. we don't see a somewhat of that with police. host: talk about the black lives matter movement. how is it conducted peaceful or otherwise? what are you working to do during this campaign cycle?

guest: the beauty of the movement is that it started with people coming out of their homes and saying enough is enough. that was in the streets of ferguson and 70 people joined in. -- so many people joined in. i of st. louis as the heartbeat of the movement. police in st. louis have killed nine people since august, paralyzed two. the trauma there is different than most places. one year ago -- it's been a year of exposing violence. in the next base, is helping people understand what winning looks like. we have done a good job of exposing. it's challenging this idea of safety. the safety of communities is about more than policing. it's a much more expensive notion than the presence of police. you have been at the

forefront of this but you don't want to be called the leader of it. why? there are so many people who have been leading and continue to lead. i'm proud to stand with all of them. the beauty of the movement is that people have seen the scale and have emerged when the cause has been there. we saw that across the country, saw it into his. -- saw it in st. louis. peoplest one of many committed to this issue and who want to fight to make sure that the police office does not impact any more people. .t is a movement a broad-based coalition of people across the country. we would do a disservice to the spirit of the movement -- caller: good morning. three questions. would you name the three states where police have not killed

people? have you taken a look at the number of stop and frisks that have been when martin o'malley was mayor of baltimore? what is your opinion of people for giving an assailant before the assailant has apologized? the threeterms of states come i believe it's vermont, maine and one of the dakotas. mike.com did the map about it. o'malley -- i'm not endorsing any candidate. -- heey's platform is on has to help us understand how this regressive platform reconciles with his time as mayor. explain to help people -- people understand his legacy

to be one that created the conditions for over policing. he has to combat area. -- combat that narrative. question people's relationship to their faith and their got. for so many people, forgiveness is an issue of faith. i understand why people forget theassailant even when assailant has not asked for forgiveness because part of it is helping people process and make sure that he doesn't eat when-- hank doesn't even that hate doesn't eat away at them. host: rhode island, south dakota and vermont. we will move on. william in germantown, maryland. i was addressing the

issue of black lives matter and -- black livess to matter. all lives matter come ultimately. people need to go ahead and stand up to their own responsibilitie for themselves. ing needs to be changed. things need to be structured tore police don't have pursue assailants are criminals -- or criminals. people are being abused by the that they doings

-- i don't understand at all. people shouldn't kill people. guest: we believe that. understanding police violence is one part of a broader conversation about criminal justice. it's an interest because it is what started the movement. something we know we can and. -- we can end. there are many other components. the police should not kill people. host: don is next. republican. caller: were you one of the 8 million people who saw the peggy covert vid video? do you agree -- were you raised by a mom and a dad? do you think that is important?

are you intentionally making -- i walk around the campus and i seem to have a black lives matter on the floor before the cafeteria. are you trying to make movement into a kkk copy so you can get the reparations you are seeking? guest: interesting question. i have not seen the video that has been circulating. it is something about what has been termed a black on black crime -- there are many people working to stop violence across spectrums, including violence by private citizens to each other. there are some people working to make sure the state is not the apparatus killing you. thate from a loving family continues to love me and that is true for so many people. i'm proud to be best to have a

family -- i'm proud to have a family and a sister who is really strong. the love does help people grow and support them. the interesting person to the kkk -- the kkk is a hate group that is clear about the role, not supporting any idea of racial equity or justice. in terms of black lives matter , i was in the movement is not racist. ins focused on racial equity a way the kkk has never been in american history. was referringer to this video on fox news path website. grandmother tears into black lives matter. how about black brutality? i want to talk to you about the national review and what they have to say.

this is the headline -- with a picture of you on their website. how do you respond to the race baiting part of this and the comparison to reverend al sharpton? i went at the invitation of the charleston protesters. it was a dramatic time for the people of charleston and the people all across the country. i was proud to stand with them and respond to their requests. this language about race baiting is interesting. we are simply telling the truth about what's happening. the police are killing people. if that is what people call race

baiting, that will have to be what it is. we are telling the truth about what's happening in the police are disproportionately killing black people we can live in a world where police don't kill people. there is a long legacy of people fighting for civil rights. this happened during the civil rights movement. we anticipate these mobs to come our way. i will never be afraid to tell the truth. i'm accountable to the lives of mike brown and tamir. that accountability keeps me in this fight. host: henry in michigan. caller: good morning. keep the faith and understand that you cannot have a conversation about race with racists. i would like to see us organize come understand that our

salvation will come from the ballot box. all of these white supremacists , i have two books for you. andeen the world and me without sanctuary. i would like to see the black lives matter movement do some interruptions of republican candidates, campaign events. componentdressing the of when a police officer kills an unarmed person, black person, and the killing is deemed investigational and unjustified,

to take the hands of prosecution of that officer, take that case out of the hands of local prosecutors and put that on a federal level automatically? i love your 10 point plan, but it is to go deeper. the police hiring practices are nothing more than a jobs program for suburban white men who come military with ptsd and cannot get jobs known community. are going, do what you doing. you cannot hold a conversation with racists about racism. thet: two points about independent prosecutor investigation -- we have a whole bucket that calls that out. we agree there should be racial bias testing. if people are found to be racist , they should not working

committees. -- theyk in communities should not work in communities. determining who's working communities. caller: thank you for taking my call. one of the things i want to ask you, i am born and raised in southern california. in my life, i have been pulled over 12 times by police. 95% of the time, it was my fault. half of those times i got pulled over, i got away with it with a warning. you do not disrupt political campaigns. find another for them don't interrupt people by protesting. -- find another forum.

the owner of the shootings -- and are shootings -- 40% unarmed shootings. black lives matter. i know the people, the young women and men who have been killed -- it's about self responsibility. how much attention are you guys putting into black on black crime versus the bad cops that are out there? there's a lot of good cops out there. when we say police, we also have to say good police. does black lives matter pay some attention to this issue? --st: black people can walk people can work on many issues together. kid. rice was a

john crawford was in walmart and had a gun that walmart sold, a bb gun and he was responsible. i'm looking to see a state that is responsible. a government responsible for the actions that it does and holds a government agency accountable for when they are people. -- when they harm people. i'm looking for structural response will do is not currently present. host: garrett in cleveland, ohio. republican. -- my onlydmire worry is that you are movement might be shaking up our communities to much. host: in what way? caller: it's the economic costs -- the doj is launching an investigation in cleveland.

i agree that police reform needs to be done, but it's very costly and will take away money from poor urban areas that need it the most. upst: the goal is to shake the system because the system is not working, it is killing people. the same vein of arguments from critics of ending slavery. time will tell whether the reforms in cleveland cost a lot of money or take away from committees of color. for --nges we're asking we can employ people in communities to teach the police how to engage with communities. an interesting way to redistribute the money as opposed to adding more money to

the police. of not advocating any idea funding the police more. some of these police are the most heavily funded departments that exist. invest in communities with those funds and they support an apparatus around safety that is deeper than policing. host: to find out more, you can aignzero.org.p deray mckesson is a community organizer with that movement. we will take a short break. when we come back, we will open up the phone lines. we will get to that conversation in just a bit. ♪ >> saturday, august 29 marks the

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it's also possible to see five years down the road, back in a new civil war in afghanistan. ly emerging in the country. it is much worse than the taliban. the taliban is deeply entrenched and hardly defeated. if we end up five years down the road in a new civil war in afghanistan and you safe havens for the taliban and isis, and will say it was not worth the price. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we are back here this morning, spending the remainder of the show in open phones. here is the line -- here are the lines. .emocrats, 202-748-8000

republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. deadly shooting during a live tv news report in virginia. a gunman killed a reporter and videographer for cbs affiliate in virginia in a shooting that was broadcast live this morning. the affiliate in roanoke reports that police are looking for the suspect. some breaking news this morning out of virginia. we are in open phones this morning, getting your thoughts on public policy issues. robert in georgia. democrat. go ahead. about the comment is

black lives matter movement. itself reminds me of dr. martin luther king. i wanted to make the comment on behalf of mr. deray mckesson, continue doing what you are doing. had you not brought this to the forefront, no one would have cared. now, everyone is coming out of the woodwork saying what about black on black crimes. if the justice system was not geared towards putting black kids in jail with grown-ups that and thatm these crimes putting them back on the streets to terrorize their communities because they cannot get a job, we would not have a black on black crime. y are so concerned, why aren't the police doing something about the guns that go into these committees? host: let me throw politics into

the mix. front page of the washington post. virginia gop loyalty oath, idea that could trip up trump. that on the front page of "the washington post" this morning. inside the new york times company take a look at donald trump's campaign and whether or not he is doing the work to turn the people

into real voters. he was the only candidate to plan to volunteer for all 11 days of the iowa state fair. it also notes that he has hired precinct captains and has fromtly hired a staffer rick perry's campaign in iowa. this in the washington times this morning. hillary clinton heading to ohio. to boost slipping poll numbers. hillary clinton will jump the primary q4 a campaign rally thursday in ohio, looking to the state that kept her alive in 2008.

story goes on to talk about mr. sanders'campaign. pollat mrs. clinton in a released on tuesday of likely voters in new hampshire. newswa she got some good that showed her retaining a huge lead in iowa. lead over mr.oint sanders. mr. biden finished in third place of the poll. the latest on the democratic nomination. mr. trump has renewed his eye against the fox anchor. this is in "usa today."

he tweeted out that she perhaps you take another vacation day. that was roger ailes responded to the latest from mr. trump, saying he needs to apologize to megyn kelly. the latest campaign news and we are in open phones. carmine in new york, every public. -- a republic. caller: going to black lives matter, there was a young police officer and he was a young man of color, 22. he was in civilian clothes and witnessed a crime. andhased down a suspect during the scuffle, other police officers came on the scene. he did not truck his weapon when told to do so and was shot dead

in the street. i have always felt the incident was not fully investigated. if he was a white police officer, he would be alive today. john.hi, caller: i wanted to make a few comments on the problems in this society. i would like to compare it to the children of israel and egypt. want todren of israel be delivered from their oppressor. the black man in america is trying to be accepted by their oppressor. you have shown us for hundreds of years what you think of us. it is time for blacks to start educating their children, programming them to get out of here.

host: good morning to you. caller: good morning. i have a couple of comments on black lives matter. conservatives have talked about self responsibility. if we look at the racist construction of this company, we anl see there is racism as entry goal part of america. we need to deal with the question of the structure that was put in place at the request of southerners so that they would develop a process of slavery that would dehumanize black folks. the idea of the police culture killing black folks. the whole idea of a group of inple, which incorporated

south carolina in 1714 to do anything they wanted to do to black slaves. today,race that idea to we will see that is part of the culture of the police department. host: silver spring, maryland. you are on the air. caller: i keep hearing about this black lives matter. all lives matter. we know that all lives matter. we're treating these homes and we see these children need to eat. someone creates an organization to feed these children. "why aren't you feeding all children?" videotapell phones, this stuff. we see it in front of us.

we know we have black on black crime. we have organizations working on that. we need to focus on this issue. black lives matter, as well. another thing, black on black violence is difference. there is justice after someone gets shot. this happened in recent years. we see -- how do we prevent it? we are not saying people who do things to cops are correct. we are talking about the everyday person walking to school or work or minding her own business and get pulled over and maybe reach for something in the glove compartment. we are not taking away -- we know all lives matter. i want to be able to walk in

peace. host: ok. many of you are probably watching what the markets are going to do. it has been a few minutes. take a look at the dow jones average. it looks like it is in the opening minutes. we will continue to watch that this morning after the roller coaster ride of the past stays. -- past six days. lawmakers will have two deal with the budget. that will include the controversy over planned parenthood. from "the editorial washington post."

host: "the wall street journal" reporting that planned parenthood plans to sue the state of louisiana. tony in los angeles, good morning. open phones. caller: good morning.

to the young man who is on earlier. all lives matter. -parent to have a two household. weget into these situations, have to watch how we carry ourselves. we cannot go out there with our think weging down and are going to get the respect. and also, what about the black abortions? nobody talks about that. host: john in maryland, democrat. caller: good morning. i would rather say black lives matter, as well. when i hire a landscaper to cut that.ss, i pay him to do we pay the police to protect us.

we need to use common sense and create task force in each jurisdiction of citizens that are licensed to always the always. we need to be able to see the services we are paying for. the united states government oversees the military. he is the one who makes the call. we need to reconfigure the way we deal with our police and all of the other government agencies. we the people need to start policing what we pay for. host: independent in florida. caller: how are you doing? host: well. caller: the black lives matter thing. you are more likely to shoot a black guy than a white guy. , whenats do not stack up

white criminals are more than likely to get shot by a cop than a black guy. host: what numbers are you looking at? what is your source? caller: all over the internet. the government. i am a little nervous. first time caller. the numbers the government has -- they are more than likely -- the white guy is more likely to be shot by a cop than a bla ck guy. thing.ght to be there destruction in the black family is what is causing their social problems. host: all right. this is the opening section of

"usa today." no opposing view. new orleans is safer but it is is safer but it is this --, and they write cheap0 billion price is compared to what it cost to help with the region back together after katrina. --goes on to say this

host: we will be marking the tenure anniversary of hurricane katrina this friday with guests and your phone calls and thoughts. good morning, ruth. caller: last february i believe wasas, a 12-year-old boy killed by a policeman here in cleveland. as far as i know, nothing has been done about this case. i find it appalling it would take this long to find out what happened. why aren't the authorities doing something? host: harold, what is on your mind? caller: thank you for taking my call.

i hear all of this situation with donald trump and that news lady. debate.t get to see the the question she asked trump, did the other candidates get asked the same questions? host: all right. lori in georgia, independent. caller: hi. i am calling about the black lives matter. every single black life matters. when you have a majority town, every vote matters even more. if you get the population to vote, you can run your city as you see fit. you can change the police force and the entire attitude of your city. take part. don't just go into the streets.

go out and vote and get your own city to run the way you want it to. host: we are in open phones this morning. our last guest talking about the black lives matter movement. a lot of phone calls about that. philadelphia.c., preparing for the pope's visit next month. the is what they write in "the washington post" -- there is a social media hash

tag. and go toart in d.c. new york, philadelphia. go to www.c-span.org for details of our coverage. good morning, martin. caller: the republican party's word that donald trump is hurting their party and they wouldn't have a chance to win the election. it c-span or foxnews would see how many democrats would vote for donald trump, the republican party we change their mind about trump's possibility of winning the presidential election. host: do you think so? caller: he would do well from democrats, believe me. people are fed up with both parties. they are looking for someone who

would make a change. i do not care if it is a republican or democrat running. i believe donald trump is the best choice. host: pamela, republican, good morning. you are on the air. caller: ok. on the last gentleman said donald trump would be the best president, donald trump is not made a statement about what he's going to do. he keeps talking about what is going on in china. he is not given us anything -- what he is going to do about what is going on in america. i am not a dollar chunk fan -- donald trump fan because all donald trump talks about is donald trump. what i am going to do because i

am rich. host: jerry, what is on your mind? caller: i would like to talk about black lives matter. i believe the young gentleman with the movement black lives matter, i think he is somewhat of a race-baiter. i would like to give you some examples. an officer kills a white person. i can think of several that were questionable shootings. it never makes national news. it is also like the trayvon martin case. they were busing people in during this trial of that case. there was a young hispanic baby, i think it was nine months old in brunswick, georgia. his mother was approached by two black youths.

they told her, and over her money or they would shoot the baby in the face. th shotey and killed the baby-- they shot and killed the baby and wounded her. he was convicted but it never made national news. host: ok. james in florida, independent call. good morning. caller: i would like to address the black lives matter movement in regards to the brutality that the police are doing. i oftentimes when these things come up, the movement needs to are goodi guess there officers. we do believe there are good officers. do never see good officers

good officer things. with the problem in some of the areas with crime, crime kind of upholds crime. you have something going on and people willing to -- when it comes down to the crime. point is so different with the organized crime? ey do notofficers -- th oust each other. when do i get a chance to see an officer police another officer. you asked them not to go by this -- the officer go by that, as well. when do we get a chance to see good officers do good officer things? house your brother. if you allow this to go on, you

are aiding and abetting. there are good officers. they need to stand up. about thee is a story u.s. ambassador to japan, caroline kennedy. a new report found major management challenges with her overseeing that post in japan. an survey offered unflattering for travel of this ambassador.nure as she was using private e-mail.

benjamin, republican. caller: good morning. how are you doing today? i was watching jeb bush last night on the c-span website. i think he is for real and telling the truth, a little nervous, but i think he is for real and he has some good ideas on immigration and giving states the rights and powers to rebuild our economy and roads. but i have seen donald trump flip-flop too much. i do not like him. host: why not/ caller: i've seen him go from really democratic and the israeli republican. building a wall? that sounds a little out of wh

ack with one people want. ok.: john in brooklyn, good morning. caller: good morning. i have two points. on the environment, i was concerned about the fukushima accident and the radiation water that is going into the pacific ocean. how is that the communicated about the condition of the pacific ocean? f as farng as the gul as the bp spill. i am not sure where that information has in communicated to the american people. systematicallyon communicating through communities about how they need

the skills and to obtain the employment that these corporations have around the country for jobs they say they beenand it has communicated through technical schools, so people have a way of accessing the jobs that these corporations say they need to fill. in these two points matters to people's daily quality of life standards that they want to maintain. thank you for taking my call. republican, good morning. caller: how are you today? i would like to comment on two things. -- he has every right to look out for what is important for him. his people -- i would like to

make an additional comment about what is happening in cuba. mr. obama has taken this opportunity to make friends with thepeople, two brothers, castro brothers have been in power for50-plus years. he has overlooked all of the human right abuses, the killings going on. the tourists see the nice thing. cuba is desperate to have funds coming from here. i would like to see more of the republicans -- what is happening? why are we doing this? the americans and politicians have overlooked cuba, because we have no interest there.

host: would you like to hear one of these republican candidates say we will revert on cuba, opening up diplomatic relations? caller: that is not necessarily the case. something has to to be done. this is not going to work. i would like to hear their ideas, what is going to happen? because this is not the right approach. host: you are in miami. are you or your family from cuba? caller: yes. absolutely. i am a u.s. citizen for many years. seeave the intelligence to what is happening. why are we overlooking what is happening with cuban people in cuba? host: john in tennessee --

joan, good morning. caller: i wanted to add another the to the platform that black lives movement has fourth. zero.org.ncampaign caller: this is something i heard on free speech tv. one of the calls suggested the police have to have malpractice insurance. as it stands now, when he wrongful death lawsuit is successful for a person who has been harmed with her family, that money is paid by taxpayers. i think the police, if they had to carry malpractice insurance, it might be a little more careful and how they deal with the public and to stop crossing the police department they are

employed by too much money they would have to to be fired. if they had more skin in the game they would be more aware of their behavior toward people they are supposed to protect. jesus.e go to good morning. caller: good morning. i one to talk about immigration. i think it is about time we stop illegals and that right here in texas, to investigate the agencies around here, the mexicans are getting everything, food stamps, and welfare. i was born and raised in texas. -and then i get the paperwork. is not what you know but who you

know in the government business in texas. most of the people are here running the welfare stuff. mexican people. it is who they know. if i was in the management business, do not put my husband in there. please do not do this. go with whating to my property management says to do. i have to put everybody in there. they get somewhere, they always do it. there is people with no drivers license, insurance. i drive with drivers license and i had insurance. they know who is doing it. host: washington, d.c., bob, democratic caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. ther people like or dislike

trump, he must run as a republican. he will win in a landslide. that is my thinking. the word to win leading a third-party, it would become a one-part fascist coup. the republicans would be decimated and the democrats would be marginalized and maybe also decimated. i think people should talk more about it. host: what do you think should be done? caller: i am encouraging all republicans to get him to run as a republican if he is serious. as we all know, this could change within a year. there is 14, 15 months before the election. i think it is critical. you can see democrats are

supporting trump. nobody talks about the nota voters. we are not given that ability to the states. vote , and they will come out en masse. he would win by about 60%. that is my estimate. host: what do you think about the virginia republican thinking loyalty oath? for anybody running and the primary u-value will support the nominee? caller: if they wants to push that that is just an outright attack on trump, let's be clear about that. that's what that is. he would take that as an unfavorable attack, but he also said that he would support any candidate that he felt was a good candidate. but that still it