we have to elect officials who will work to get us to a debt free future. after the elections, we have to stay involved and make sure they keep their promises. host: debbie, republican caller. caller: good morning. notuestion is do they realize that if we do not get our border secure, we are not safe. i'm not talking about one race comingle, but many races across the border. america, first of all, has to be safe. the second thing, we do not hear lot about bobby jindal. i have listened to him, and he is a smart guy. talk a lot,get to maybe he does not have a lot of money, i don't know. i understand why people like donald trump. he says what none of us have the

guts to say. most of us feel that what donald trump is saying is for america's best. yes, he says in a very raw and ss way of saying things, i think he needs to tone down his rhetoric, but other than that, i don't think he is a bad guy. he is just an american, like anyone else, saying, we need to get our country back. i think bobby jindal is a good b guy, you don't hear much about him at all. guest: we will see what happens when it comes to bobby jindal and how he does in the upcoming debate, and if he winds up .aving a surge we will have another debate in a few weeks. as far as donald trump goes and the rhetoric, and thinks he is .aying, i think you are right a lot of what he is saying is what people across the country want to hear. even when he says things that

some people may not want to hear, they have respect for the fact that he is willing to stand up and say it. he is not sugarcoating things, or worrying about being politically correct. he is worrying about our country and saying that he thinks these are the solutions that need to happen. we, as american citizens, appreciate that. it is not something that is simply glossed over. we hear all too often from politicians, whether inside washington, d.c. or in our state capitals. it is one reason that donald trump is doing well right now. host: 20 minutes left, or so, with our guest, jenny beth martin of the tea party patriots. we have been talking little bit about iran this morning. hold an anti-iran deal rally in d.c.

will you still hold the rally? guest: yes. it will be next wednesday, september 9 on the west lawn of the capital at 1:00 in the afternoon. the purpose is to make sure that our elected officials understand that we do not want this iran deal to pass. it is not a good deal. it is very very concerning to us at tea party patriots for a few reasons. the very first reason, and the reason we got involved is that it should be treated as a treaty, and it is not treated as a treaty. that is why we got involved because we stand for constitutionally limited government. that ship sell, so we started looking into the details of it, and we heard about five deals that have come out, and secret deals that have come out. iran will be able to inspect one of their sites themselves. americans will never be allowed to do the inspections. ran will get to have a 24 get thingsriod to

in order before any inspection happens. we have to give them a 24 date notice before inspections occur. then, the money that will be released from the sanctions is und terrorism. even secretary of state ker ry said that will not happen. it is a bad deal for america. we need to make sure our elected officials understand that we do not want it to happen. the vote has not been cast yet. host: are less guest -- our last guest from moveon.org said this is the best -- guest: the people in iran still want to see americans dead, and aey will wind up having nuclear weapon at the end of this deal.

we're not going to be able to ensure they have one during the time of this deal. and, the money will be released that will fund terrorism. seeterrorists also want to us dead. this is very concerning to me. i don't want my children and a world, where they graduate from college, facing a world where iran is armed with nuclear weapons. host: back to our calls. lee is on the line from oregon, democratic caller. caller: good morning. they for taking my call. thing that concern me yesterday is that the other republican candidates will sign this pledge. donald trump is a demagogue. we had demagogues in the 1930's, who blamed our problems on the jews. we had demagogues when i was a teenager with mccarthy who blamed our problems on communists. now, we have donald trump, and all her problems are blamed on illegal aliens.

when will someone of the press, like what edward r. murrow did, what donald and say trump is. the basic andg to stings of the american people. someone has to stand up and say enough. host: are you still there? caller: yes. host: who do you think that person will be? caller: i fear there is no one. we have no one in the press who has the procedure encourage to do what edward r. murrow date. we currently have no one in the republican party, whether be senator mccain or governor romney, or whoever, who will stand up and call this man out. we have a lack of courage. host: thank you. calling out donald trump. guest: i think we have watched as people have attempted to call out donald trump. i think that one thing that has

made donald trump appeal to even more americans for instance is macy's pulling his sponsorship from them.their sponsor he says, i will continue to say it i think is right -- what think is right. people are looking hi at him and saying, he is saying what he believes, and not allowing people to bully him around, and they appreciate that. host: republican caller for jenny beth martin. caller: good morning, miss martin. i have a couple of questions and a statement if you would just give me a second. my first statement is keep up the good fight. i support the tea party 100%. , doirst question would be you first see having any rallies

in myrtle beach or the wilmington, north carolina area anytime soon? my second statement is that i support donald trump, while he may be a little abrasive, he is not business as usual, and that is very appealing to me. and my lust question, -- my last question, i'm also interested in dr. ben carson, carly fiorina, and ted cruz. i would like to know, what is the tea party opinion of those three candidates? thank you very much and have a nice holiday. guest: thank you for your support. as far as that of in myrtle beach, first, come on up to washington, d.c. next week on wednesday and join us on the west lawn of the capital as we opposed the iran nuclear deal. i don't know right now, on the top of my head, what will happen in world beach over the next few months, but in january, there will be the statewide tea party

convention in myrtle beach. as the other candidates -- you said you like donald trump and are also interested in been present, carly fiorina, and ted cruz. i'm here today talking from tea party patriots. partye finish at tea patriots with our focus on the iran deal and the upcoming protest next week, then our super pac will be working and gearing up again as we and value andach of the candidates show the positives and negatives of each of the candidates, compared to our core values and the issues and solutions that we care about to our supporters, to let them take a look at that and determine whether the tea party citizens fund will make an endorsement. i encourage you to look at our website for more details on that

in the next few weeks. we need to evaluate each of these candidates on all of the issues that we care about. host: how do you go about the evaluation process? us of the issues. are there many of them that you will focus on? that wee have several are focusing on. issues, whether we make an endorsement or not, these are the issues that we care about. issues.e about eight i don't know i will list every single one of them. we are focusing on things that can actually be done by october 1, 2017. we are almost at october 1, 2015, and we are seeing the congress will be making deals. we want to see obamacare revealed. we want to see our border security are equivalent to see a balance budget with a penny plan

-- our borders secure. we want to see a balanced budget with a penny plan. we want to make sure we have the biometric visa entry and exit system in place. we have a few other items. we are calling them are yellow card project. we will roll them out in the next few weeks and educate people about how we can actually expand her slow freedom, economic freedom, and have a debt free future. host: here is a tweet to send your way. tea party patriots claim they are for constitution and will rally against iran deal, but not a people on congress not r.thorizing isis wa guest: when it comes to the iran deal, it should have gone through congress as a treaty. that is why we got involved in

to begin with. it is not being dealt with as a treaty. it may pass with a minority. this is the first time we have ever been involved in an issue that expands beyond mostly domestic economic issues. this is the first time we have been involved in something dealing with foreign policy. host: we will go to arizona now, democratic caller. caller: good morning. before i get to the body of my comic, i would just like to say, anybody who calls up and denigrates government, or wants to and it or replace it, i would like to know, what would you like to replace it with? my background is tv news. i teach a class of propaganda at the local community college. oregon, yes,nd mr. how did the tea party informed? there is a documentary online,

.t is ca here's the trick. saturate the airwaves with -- thatand patriotism was how fox news was created. rupert murdoch created a network where working-class people would go hard to the right. what is limited government? is sell offans for all public assets, including our public parts to industry. states rights. states, by themselves, are far weaker, and can be taken over, one legislator at a time. individual rights -- what that means is you can die under the bridge that you live under.

the koch brothers, the heritage foundation, i don't even know what to call them. brats.them the rich these people are in the extraction business. they always confused success with matt. they do not give a damn about the constitution or workers or labor. by the way, i big labor because i'm a working person. i just want to point this out. pagepatriotism is the last refue of scoundrels, and religion is the first. guest: you said quite a few things, so i will do my best to comment on those. i never said i want to end government. if you are saying that is something that i said, that is simply incorrect. i said i want to get government back into the size and scope that it should be. we want to see us having a debt-free future and the balance budget. right now we are $19 trillion in

debt. the way we get to that is implement the penny plan which lessmply spend one penny out of every dollar that the government spends. if we do that, we will have a balanced budget in five years. that is nothing that is too radical. it is simply spending one penny less out of every dollar that is spent. if you had to do that in your household, or i had to do in my household, i would find a way to do that. i don't remember everything else you said. i would like to say that i ,esponded to a rant from cnbc of the chicago stock exchange. they said that our founding fathers would be turning over in .heir graves we got on a conference call the

very next day, and a week later, we had the tea party. we organized through twitter. most of us -- i did not know -- i knew one other person on that call, and only from online commute rations. communications. it was a spontaneous movement, and because of what was said on cnbc. host: good morning. go ahead. caller: using your logic, why do ,e need your organization moveon.org, or any organization, to tell us the obvious. if you can read, you can open a history book and find out what is going on in this country. for you to tell us obvious, and draw a very good salary doing it, it seems almost against your own message that you put out there. secondly, about immigration -- i am from california, i

this is-american -- something from the 1960's that started, if you are aware of the bracero problem. the reason we have such an oflux of workers is because the agribusiness. this is something that we started and have to pay for. we are paying for it by having immigration now being part of the fabric of this country, whether you like it or not. you will not be in the majority and a very short time. look a whole lot different than you. that is something you have to accept. thank you for that. perhaps, read a little bit, you will find out why things are the way they are. guest: i certainly hope that a lot of americans do read and stay informed on what is happening in our government. organizations like my organization, or organizations , we the guests before me are involved in what we are doing because we want to take action, not just read and

passively pay attention to what is happening in the world around us. we want to take action on what we see. that is why grassroots organization like tea party patriots, or others, why we do what we do. host: art in texas, republican line. caller: i have a question for you, jenny beth. having aoncerned for ,imited federal government limited in power and scope. that is the essence of the article five convention of states movement. i'm wondering whether the tea party patriots have actually endorsed the article five convention of state, which is our founders way of reining in a tyrannical government. host: let's hear from our guest.

guest: thanks for calling. , and think what is laid out on the article five process is a very good process. i, personally, like what it says. you have to pay attention to the fact that just because this is , it islike personally is no not what our organization is necessarily supporting. we have done a lot of training on this and debates, live debates and also online, and town halls, and at the end of the day, our supporters are del divided on the issue. i'm not saying they think it is a bad idea, but they are not 100% sure. what we have done a tea party patriots is continue to provide information on it, and encourage people to get involved in the

other organizations working on this. my former cofounder is involved in convention of states. to work andus all focus not just on what is happening in washington, d.c. at the federal level, but continue to work at the state level to push and minutes to the constitution, so that if we get the opportunity to have our states ratified, the we will be able to do that. int: let's try to get another call or two. walter, new orleans, democrat. caller: good morning. my question is about the basic way that the tea party was organized. it was organized as a political organization. , the way the tea party supposedly has been when theyd, the irs --

were doing what we, as citizens, tosigned them to do -- have anh, when you organization is politically affiliated, have tax-free status. just recently, sirius radio, have they dropped c-span? they were at 120, and now there is a fox news organization there . the last remaining question for this young lady is the republican constantly talk about securing the border. does anyone know how much we invest every year to secure the border right now? to take steps to make our border strong? how much are they willing to that supposedly to secure complete border?

thank you. i think you will answer one of the questions. host: go ahead first. far as how this movement got started, i cnbcnded to a rant on about the stimulus package, and which they were complaining about the same as package and said that our founding fathers would be turning over in their graves, and we should have a tea party like they did. we got on a conference call, there were 22 of us, and we hung up the phone, and about one week later, we had 48 tea parties across the country. we have 35,000 people in attendance. we have grown from there. the way we got started was to stand up and say, we are very concerned about the spending in our government, and

protest, using our first amendment rights. as we move through the process, we understood that if we were collecting money, we would have to set up some sort of structure with the irs, to report what we are doing. requiredhat is legally , and we have no problem living within those laws. we did that. unlike other organizations, organizations with the words "tea party patriots" were targeted. our process of applying for the 501 process, it should have taken 60-90 days, maybe four months tops. as it turns out, it took my organization over three years, and we got a phone call from the irs to our attorneys, the day before i testified to congress, saying that we would be granted our status. that is not living within the law. that is not the way the law is written or the regulations are

written. it is wrong and lawless. irs will be held accountable for this. siriuso the collar about toe were moved from 120 2 455. if you have lost c-span radio someirius, there are freeways you can listen to the spirit you can listen to it at c-span.org/radio. rius'sas si .ecision, not ours loretta is calling from mississippi, republican line. caller: i heard donald trump this iranthat over thing, israel, if they attack iran, we are obligated to help

iran. is that true? guest: i am unaware of that. i'm sorry. host: we just saw that story yesterday, and have no way of knowing why that is true. why do you bring it up? caller: i decided on another channel, and i was wondering, because i haven't heard it before. i was also calling about the -- you have to pay for cable to get fox news. cbs,those other stations, nbc, and abc, you can be low income and watch them, even if h theiragree with the views, you have to pay for fox news. mississippi, they tried to break in her house, and she had to call the police. it is real. i also want to call and talk

about absolute power in the government. by native american family, my grandfather's mother marched on the trail of tears. there is power, and it can hurt people. guest: thank you for that. if you want information about what tea party patriots did regarding immigration, you can check out our website. we did the documentary from my lastand my team's time year. we will be in washington next week on wednesday, september 9, at 1:00 on the west lawn of the capital. said a ted cruz the donald trump will join us. we are rolling out more more speakers each and every day. come and join us. be a part of this. make sure that our congressmen and senators, before they actually asked their vote, understand that we, as american citizens, are greatly concerned about this iran announcer: we wia

chance to share your thoughts by phone, facebook, and twitter. they signature feature of the tv is our coverage of book fairs and festivals from across the country with top nonfiction authors. here is our schedule. this weekend, we are buy from this annual book fast.

at the end of september, we are in new york for the brooklyn book festival. in october, the southern festival of books in nashville. the weekend after, the texas book festival. at the end of the month, the wisconsin book festival in madison. on the east coast, the boston book festival. in november, word stock in portland, oregon. followed by the national book awards from new york city. that is a few of the fairs and festivals this fall on c-span2's tv. announcer: ben carson was recently in colorado. he spoke on a range of issues including the national debt,

immigration. this is part of our road to the white house coverage. dr. carson: thank you. thank you. we are delighted to be with you. thanks for all the hard work. jennifer and rick, all the the leadership program of the rockies, everybody who has done such a fabulous job in putting this together. you know, america is still a place of dreams. there are a lot of people who try to denigrate our country because there may have been things that has happened in the past that were not particularly flattering, but that is not because there's anything wrong with our country. it is because there was something wrong with people from time to time. people inhabit the country. any country in the world has people and has problems.

of the united states of america is an absolutely wonderful place. the fact of the matter is you will notice there are a whole bunch of people trying to get in here but not a lot of people trying to get out, so that you try to tell you something about how great a place it actually is. an exceptional nation. before our nation came on the scene 100, 1000, 5000 years, people did the same exact thing. within 200 years of america coming on the scene, men were walking on the moon. people try to say this is not an exceptional nation. this is the most exceptional nation the world has ever known. you look at the fact we declared our independence in 1776, less than 100 years later, we are the number one economic power on the earth. think about that. and, it is -- there is such a thing as the american way.

have you noticed that? there are so many people -- does any other country have a way? there was the british way. there is no french way. there is no canadian way. there is only in american way. have you noticed you can be un-american, but you cannot be on brazilian. [laughter] you cannot be un-nigerian. there is a very unique thing about being an american. and, all of us are united in one way or another. we are all on the same boat in this country. i remember when i was learning a lot of classical music and classical art and a lot of people in detroit criticized me and they said, you know, it is not culturally relevant to you.

have you heard that turn? culturally relevant. what does that mean to a citizen of the united states of america? take a trip down to ellis island and walk through the gallery there. look at all the pictures from people who came from every part of the globe. in many cases, carrying all of their belongings in their hands. look at their faces. look at their eyes. the determination. people who work not five days a week but six or seven days a week. not eight hours a day, but 10, 12, 16 hours a day. no such thing as a minimum wage. why did they do it? because they were working for their sons and their daughters, their grandsons and their

granddaughters. hundreds of years before that, other immigrants came here involuntarily in the bottom of slave ships. they too had a dream that one day there great-grandson's and great granddaughters might be free to pursue prosperity and success in this country. do you know of all the nations in the world this one, the united states of america, the only one big enough and great enough to allow all those people from all those backgrounds to realize their dreams. that is why i say every single one of us is culturally relevant to every single one of us and that is why we are called the

united states of america. it is important for us to keep that in mind because there are so many out there right now who are trying to divide us, to create friction between all the factions of our society. a war on women, race wars, income wars, age wars, religious wars, you name it. there is a war on it. you can get people fighting each other all the time. we have gone to a point where yes, we have a multiparty system, but it was never intended that the republicans and democrats would hate each other. it was more intended that people would perhaps have different philosophies and be able to sit down and discuss the differences and the similarities and to

strengthen each other because they both love america and they both wanted it to succeed. but, unfortunately, the purveyors of those who want to fundamentally change america had seized a lot of control. this is important for we, the people of america, to realize we are not each other's enemies. the enemies are those who are trying to divide us. if we can remember that, it will make a big difference as we go forward. for me, one of the things that i hated most growing up was poverty. some people hate spiders, some people hate snakes and things like that. but me, i hated poverty. there was never any for

anything. i remember we would get coupons to get to the state fair for free. i was so excited, but never enough money to ride any rides. never enough money to buy any popcorn. i never tasted cotton candy until i was an adult and it was not that good. [laughter] dr. carson: everything looks good when you cannot have it. but, it was a very, very difficult life. my mother worked so hard going from job to job because she did not want to be on welfare. interestingly enough, she recognized that most of the people she saw on welfare never came off of it. therefore, she never wanted to go on it to begin with. she never wanted to be a victim.

for the most part, she was successful. she occasionally accepted aid, but was able to stay off of it because she was very thrifty. she would go to the goodwill and by a pair of trousers with a big hole. this was back before that was fashionable. [laughter] dr. carson: she would buy some patches and put it on both knees. people would say where did you get those? she would take us out on a sunday morning and ask a former if we can pick four bushels of corn or tomatoes or beans. three for you, one for us. they always liked that deal. she would can stuff. she would make everything stretch so far. i'm certainty of my mother was secretary of treasury, we would not be in the deficit situation.

[laughter] [applause] dr. carson: i find it interesting that the left enjoys saying carson grow very poor, him is that had some aid and now wants to withdraw aid from everybody which is a total lie, but this is how they exist. they exaggerate things and like to be able who perhaps do not think deeply for themselves and that is how they manipulate and control people. i have no desire, as i am sure nobody here, has no desire to remove the safety net for people who really need it. i have a desire to create a

mechanism for people to move up the economic ladder out of the state of dependency and become a part of the fabric of america. that is what we have to start thinking about. [applause] dr. carson: nothing wrong with safety nets, that when government handouts become a way of life for able party -- able-bodied people, we are not doing them favors. true compassion is not keeping people in a dependent situation. true compassion is finding a way to liberate them. i was speaking at a program where they would go out on the street and get people who were down and out. they would help them. they would put them through a 13 week program free of charge. buy new clothing. teach them the fundamentals of personal responsibility and how to hold a job. they would help them get a job. they would talk to their employers. 70% of those people are off

public aid in the year. one lady who i talked to was homeless and a drug addict and was three months away from getting her phd. you think about how much wasted talent there is out there. we really cannot afford to be wasting any of our talent because we only have 330 million people. china has over one billion. india has over one billion. we have to compete with them. if we allow large segments of our population to go on educated and unprepared, it is drastically weakening us as a nation. this is something that we must clearly come to an understanding of. one of the reasons that candy and i started the carson scholars fund is because we

noticed how many people were dropping out of school. in addition to the part of the program where we take kids from all backgrounds who achieve at the highest academic levels and also demonstrate they care about other people. we also have a part of the program where we put reading rooms in. we especially target title i schools where a lot of the kids come from homes with no books or very few books. they go to a school with no library or poorly funded library. they are not likely to become readers. 70% to 80% of high school dropouts are functionally illiterate. these reading rooms we put in our just amazing. no little kid -- and, they get points for the number of books they read. they can trade them in for prizes. in the beginning, they do it for prizes but it does not take long for it to show up in their academic performance.

and changing the trajectory of their lives. that is what we are really trying to do. that is what real compassion is all about. i believe that that is something that we can do in this country in a very meaningful and powerful way. the government sometimes they think they are compassionate, but they have not been successful. the war on poverty that was declared by lyndon johnson in the mid-60's -- how successful has it been? they have spent more than $19 trillion on government programs to end poverty. what have we gotten? 10 times more people on food stamps, more welfare, more poverty, more incarceration and

crime, broken families, out of wedlock births -- everything that was supposed to be better is not only worse, it is much worse. and if we are smart, and i believe we are, what we will do is we will say that did not work. let's look at some of things that do work. the things that do work are programs where there are relationships that are established. right here in this state, the save our youth program. where individuals like people in this room mentor students from denver who perhaps were moving in the wrong direction. almost all of those kids end up graduating from high school and going on to college and making something of their lives. it is not because someone is throwing money at them.

it is because of relationship that develop and opportunities to instill values and principles that lead to success. one of our big problems is we are in the process of getting away all of our values and principles for the sake of political correctness and it is absolutely destroying our nation. [applause] dr. carson: we are also in the process of destroying the future for our young people. thomas jefferson said it is immoral to pass debt on to the next generation. yet, what are we doing? over $18 trillion national debt? that is absurd. and, if you think about how much money that is -- if you try to

eradicate the debt at a rate of $10 million a day, 365 days the year, it would take you more than 5000 years. we are putting that on the backs of young people. that is the good news because it is actually worse than that. the fiscal gap -- please read about that when you go home tonight. the american people have to understand what our real financial condition is so you can evaluate what these politicians are saying. no politicians will talk about fiscal gap. i talk about it because i am not a politician. [applause] dr. carson: it is the amount of unfunded liability that we owe

as a government. cabinet programs, all the stuff we owe. the revenue is was the coming from taxes and other revenue sources. those numbers should be identical, but they are not. not by any stretch of the imagination are the identical. it is a gap or fiscal gap. that number right now is over $200 trillion. the only reason we can sustain a number that large is because we are the reserve currency of the world and we can print money which we are doing in a very irresponsible way. if greece could print money, they would not be in trouble either or at least they would not think they are in trouble. they would be but would not think they were. just as we are in huge trouble

but we don't think we are in trouble. and we are in the process of destabilizing the financial foundation of our nation. i have mentioned the fiscal gap during my announcement speech in detroit. the liberal media said next day, what is he talking about? he does not know anything. the very next day, economics agree with carson. that kind of put a -- [applause] dr. carson: that put a pain in their balloon and they shut up. the fact of the matter is we owe

it to those coming behind us to understand this and to deal with it. this is the reason we can no longer accumulate debt. no debt is acceptable at this point. if we were to declare a moratorium on raising the federal budget, do not raise it one penny for three years in a row, we would have a balanced budget. that is all it takes. just a little bit of restraint. i i would suggest more than that. i think the government is way too big. we have to reduce the size of the government very significantly. [applause] dr. carson: i'm not one of those mad flashers. thousands of government employees retire each year. just do not replace them. we shift people around in critical positions, but do not replace them.

do that for about four years and all of a sudden you have a reasonably sized government. there are some departments that could be divided. i think our veterans are horribly taking care of by the veterans administration. [applause] dr. carson: and continuing to take care of our veterans to the department of defense makes a lot more sense because that way they don't fall between the gaps. i have been talking to veterans and they say when you go from one to the other, a whole lot of them fall between the cracks and you cannot get anything done in an efficient way. it makes a huge difference and

if we begin to run the government like we run a business, i probably am a little more entombed to that the vast majority of the other candidates only because i spent 18 years and 16 years on the board of cosco and ran a national scholarship program with my wife. i have an enormous amount of business experience. and know what efficiency looks like. the united states government is not it. they are most inefficient than you have ever seen in your life. in business, we have these turnaround programs like lean six sigma that you apply to the overall structure. toyota did it. 3m -- a lot of different companies have used it to turnaround the efficiency of the

program and in the process save usually at least 25%. if we apply that to programs in our government, the savings would be a lot more than 25%. it is important that the american people deserve an efficient government. most people would not mind paying the money if it was used in an efficient way, but it is crazy what we are doing now. this would be very easy to fix. we also need to recognize that it we can get rid of all the regulations, we can help create that environment that stimulates business and stimulates innovation that stimulates entrepreneurial risk-taking and capital investment. all these regulations are crazy. it was never intended the government should be involved in

every aspect of our lives. what people do not realize is every single federal regulation costs us money in terms of goods and services. it costs us money. and, who gets hit the most with that? the middle class and the lower classes, because everybody has to pay the same. and the progressives sit there and say the reason why we have these income gaps is because the rich people have too much money. no, no. the reason is because these regulations are driving prices that they have to pay out of their meager salaries and it does not give them the opportunity to be able to save and accumulate. we will have to start making sure people actually understand what is going on in this country so that when people come along -- i will not mention anyone

particularly -- but they will say we will give free higher education for everybody. all that is doing as driving the fiscal gap and accelerating the financial collapse of the nation. these are things, i was people understand, they can be easily fooled. if i were trying to destroy this country, and i were in a leadership position, what i would do is i would drive wedges between all the people. i would make them all hate each other and think they were each other's enemies. then, i would drive the debt to unsustainable levels. i would be trying to get everybody on the special welfare programs and food stamps, i would be giving out free telephones, inviting people in

from other countries and putting them on benefits. i would be offering free education. i would just completely destabilize the financial structure and then i would weaken the military and create depression and get all the good generals to retire because they don't want to be a part of it. i would weaken the navy so would be added smallest level since 1970 and the air force since 1940 and our marine corps would not be combat ready. i i would push for the sequestration so our lieutenant colonels and majors were getting letters every month. cutting out a heart of the personnel of our military and i would have the worst v.a. system anybody would imagine so nobody would want to join the military.

that is what i would do if i were trying to destroy the country. [applause] dr. carson: any resemblance that is going on is purely coincidental. it shows you that we are in trouble. this is america. this is the nation of the can-do attitude which we are replacing with the what can you do for me attitude. we must begin to think ahead. the only reason that i have gotten into this race is because as a pediatric neurosurgeon, i spent my hope rational career looking out -- hold professional career looking out for the next generation. i see what is happening. it is not good. i look at our electrical grid

and it is extraordinarily vulnerable. we need to work on that. we need to have two or three levels of alternative energy available to us. we need to restart, in a big way, the space program. we have to spend money every time you want to send an astronaut to space to the russians. when we had a good space program going on, we had all kinds of innovation going on. look at all the things that came out of the space program. your cell phone came out of the space program. when we stopped that, we heard ourselves. i don't care about men walking on mars, but i care about the many things we are missing out on. not to mention the fact that

whoever controls space will control earth. we have enemies out there and they want to destroy us. if we are just sitting here looking at the football game and worrying about who is on "dancing with the stars," we will wake up one day and have a very different world. we have to begin to think ahead. we have to use our energy resources. we have enormous energy but we have these archaic rules that keep us from using that energy in an appropriate way. think what we could do. we have the ability to liquefy gas. we can export it. we can make europe dependent on us and set of putin and that will put him back in his little box where he belongs. these are the kinds of things --

[applause] dr. carson: those are the kinds of things that we have to be thinking about. i know i need to wrap up, but just one other thing is -- in order for us to succeed in the future in this complex nation in which we live, we the people must be involved. we must be willing to stand up for what we believe in. freedom is not free. it must be fought for. the secular progressives, they do not care whether you believe what they believe or not as long as you keep your mouth shut. sit down and shut up and let them drive.

the problem is that they are driving us off a cliff and we must be wise and we must be brave. think about all those people who preceded us and think about what they were willing to give up so that you and i could be free. everyone in here has a sphere of influence. your friends, your family, your colleagues. please begin to talk to them. just like our predecessors did in the prerevolutionary days. they talk about what nation do they want to pass on to their children and grandchildren. what are we willing to fight for? what are we willing to die for?

that is the question that each of us faces and i can guarantee you that if we will get involved and not wait for somebody else to do it, we will take this country back in record time and we will move to a pinnacle much higher than anything we or anybody else has ever seen before and we will truly have one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. thank you so much. [applause] dr. carson: thank you. >> thank you, dr. carson for that great talk. we have a few minutes for questions. we have a lot of people who have questions. i want to begin by noting a pullout last night shows you surging. you are currently ahead of governor bush, senator cruz and marco rubio. [applause] >> this is an unusual field. a messy field. not sure what to make of it. between you and carly fiorina and donald trump, people who are not held public office -- what the you make of this? what do you say to people about your electability? dr. carson: i think it means the american people are waking up and they are starting to realize that political experience is not the answer. if you take all the political experience of everybody in congress right now, it comes out to 9000 years. where has it gotten us? what really is important is do you know how to solve problems? are you a problem solver and the you know how to work with other people? one of the things that has become very apparent to me throughout my career and my life in the world of business and sitting on university boards and

every place -- i found out we have some amazing people in this country. incredible people in all kinds of areas. i have learned an enormous amount about foreign affairs by talking to people in the military and the cia and government and academia. and, hopefully in the next debate, they'll ask me about foreign affairs. [laughter] dr. carson: the point is we have tremendous people. if you get somebody who knows how to work with tremendous people, you will be amazed of how rapidly we will ascend to the top again. >> thank you. [applause] >> general question about government and the problems we face. if we cut too much, that scares people. they are nervous. but if we don't cut enough and reduce it, we will go broke because of the debt problem. you are a surgeon. how do you go about operating on the american government? [laughter] dr. carson: cut all the pork. no. when i would do is i would call in every departmental director and i would say you need to cut

2% to 3% out of your budget over this next year. if you cannot do it, turning your resignation now because you will be fired. the fact of the matter is i guarantee you there are two's 2-3% fat in a recent budget. at least that. the next year i would say you did a good job, let's do it again. do that three or four years in a row and you have substantial reduction along with the hiring freeze that i mentioned earlier. along with applying things like lean six sigma and along with bringing in experts on efficiency. i think that would do it. >> the number one driver of our debt are entitlements which raises important questions. social security, things that people depend on. we have a lot of people, younger

people watching this. what are you going to do about those things and their future? dr. carson: let me address one of them because we can talk about all of them all day long -- social security. it is basically a ponzi scheme. it would be basically ok if we had not stolen from it and adjusted with time where we put in the average age of death was 63 and now it is 80. we have not adjusted appropriately. what i would suggest is we allow people to opt out of receiving social security payments in lieu of tax credits for the same amount. they would be about 20% of our population who could easily do that. that immediately takes pressure off the system. right now, it is scheduled to go into bankruptcy in 2033 and that

is not that long from now. that extends the time period significantly. what we can do at that point is gradually start to raise the age for anybody who is under the age of 55. we will not mess with anybody who is 55 and older. >> let me mention some specific issues. an issue in the campaign so far, somewhat unexpected -- immigration. we are a nation of immigrants but we have some problems. how do you understand the problem and what do we need to do? dr. carson: our immigration problems will not be fixed until we fix the border. [applause] dr. carson: we were in arizona at the border last week and even though i recognize there are significant problems, i did not know it was as bad as this. i mean, those fences -- those are the same fences i used to

scale as a kid. nothing to it at all. [laughter] dr. carson: there was one area where they had cut a wired area through the fence and to repair it they put barbed wire across and there was -- they one it's a film us from the mexican side and they went through the area. they were not particularly athletic people. [laughter] carson: there is no barrier. the poor sheriffs and deputies in the area risk their lives doing things and have to deal with the same people because if we deport them which we do not, they come right back. there is no penalty for people. there is drug trafficking that is going crazy. you can buy more heroin than a

pack of cigarettes. new york city, baltimore, places like that. it is destroying us. listen to the farmers and their stories of terror. our fences are not protected. that has to be fixed first and we can do that. you have to turn off the -- many of them do not want to stay under those circumstances. everybody else has to register to become a guest worker. assuming they don't have a criminal record. anything that is negative.

they can become a guest worker. they have to pay it back tax penalty. they have to pay taxes. i talked to a farmer in south dakota, and $8,000 acre farm. he starts at eight dollars an hour. they could not hire a single american. i think our farming industry would collapse. i think our hotel industry would collapse. we have to be realistic about that. we cannot just say they. those people who registered will not be able to vote. they do not become citizens. if they want to become citizens, they get in the back of the line and go through the same process because we cannot neglect the people who have done it the right way. and then also, large amount of people are people who of here have overstayed their

visas. we do not even talk about those people. i would enact a program where whatever country they came from that is 10 visas that will not be issued because of each one person who violates their visa. that puts a lot of social pressure on them to go back. [applause] >> the follow-up on that -- you emphasize unity. pulling people together, not dividing. are we having a good conversation and how would you improve the conversation with the american people about this question which is a divisive question? dr. carson: i don't think there is a good conversation about it. you know some of you might , remember last week -- a lot of the left wing media -- you want to use drones to kill people on the border? you know, because i mentioned drones would be excellent for surveillance and could be used to get rid of some of the caves. you have to go and see what i am

talking about, but i have these high peaks and caves hidden and that is how they communicate with each other so they can guide the people around the vast areas without getting caught. very easy to close those caves with one of those shots and they are gone. boom! [laughter] [applause] dr. carson: the fact of the matter is, my point is we should get the military involved. we have a national guard. why is it called the national guard? so what can guard the nation. we can easily employ them there as well as they can be sitting around somewhere doing some else. >> a specific question -- gun control. where are you on that? dr. carson: i believe the second amendment is extraordinarily important. there is no way we can ever

allow it to be compromised. [applause] dr. carson: it was daniel webster who said the people of america would never live under -- underhey had access tyranny. at all the places where tyranny has occurred, they got rid of the guns. we cannot let that happen. i don't have any problems with background checks and enforcing the laws that are on the books, but i would vigorously protest any attempt to remove our rights as citizens to bear arms. [applause] >> let's give you an opportunity to talk about relations, america's role in the world. an unusual nation, we have played a great role throughout

history but now we have these executive agreements where congress is not involved. we are talking to the iranians. it is a mess. what do you think about that? what would you do about it? dr. carson: we have to be very proactive. our foreign policy is to react to what other people are doing and that does not work. we have to recognize what the dangers are. a lot of people say we made a big mistake when we went into iraq. in 2003. we don't want to do that again because we lost a lot of people, money, but you have to be smart enough to realize that was a different situation. and saddam was not an existential threat to us and the global jihadists are. they want to destroy us and our way of life and israel.

so we need to be saying why are they so successful? they are successful because they look like winners. they are establishing the caliphate they wanted. they are taking half of iraq, a third of syria, they have a foothold in tunisia, foothold in nigeria and they look like winners. how do we stop that? we make them look like losers. how do we do that? we take land from them and we can do that. i spoke to several of our generals and they said if we gave them that mission and did not tie hands behind their backs and tell them they have to fight a politically correct war, they can take that in no time and that is what we have to do. [applause] >> i could go on, we are running out of time. the last point -- so much american greatness comes from our constitution and the declaration.

how does a president go about restoring that? we will end on that. dr. carson: well, think first of all, the president himself has to understand the constitution. [laughter] [applause] dr. carson: and, i think all the other branches also have to understand it. one of the things i would do, first off, is call a joint session of congress, invite the supreme court as well, and make it clear to them that we work for the people, the people do not work for us. that is absolutely essential. [applause] carson: then, i think just a brief tutorial about the constitution and what it means. you know for instance, just one , example, the constitution states very clearly what the

enumerated powers are. it says everything not mentioned here goes back to the states. we need to re-emphasize that because the federal government has no business in everybody's business. also, the constitution states that civil issues are to be handled at the state level and the reason for that is because the people themselves get to decide the kind of thing that they want to govern the way they live. and when you take civil issues and you kick them out to the federal level, to the supreme court level, then you have unelected people determining the lifestyle of the people of the nation. that is exactly what the founders were trying to escape from. we don't want to trade a monarchy. for an oligarchy. leadership kind of

that truly understands that. it is one of the reasons why candy and i wrote a book that will come out in october called "a more perfect union." it is about the constitution and what it really means. most people know we have a constitution but most people do not know what is in it and certainly our government does not seem to know. so if we can get people to talk about this and understand -- the left will come out and say i am trying to make money. i knew he was just running to sell books. and make money. but you know, i have an answer for them and i will tell you what it is. i will knock them off their stools. thank you all very much. [applause]

>> more of c-span's road to the white house coverage. he wasvernor john kasich recently in bedford, new hampshire or a house party -- hosted by a system executive. where he gave remarks and met one-on-one with local residents. [applause] gov. kasich: we will make this like a jump rope. salt and pepper, however that went. can we give a big round of applause for the host and hostess? [applause] i understand that everyone here will get a canned ham when you leave. they have a beautiful -- how about this? when i'm president everybody will have a backyard like this. [laughter] ok?

listen, i was here years ago and he told a story about this sled dog, i did go sled racing and i thought i was going to drown. but a story about that, i was in this house and i was talking to this lady and we were talking and standing at the sink and it was going great. i thought, i have myself a town captain here. there is no question about this. then after about 20 minutes she , looked at her watch and said, "when do you think the candidate will get here?" that's when i knew it was time to go back to ohio. a little bit different this time. so i want to thank everyone here for coming. i will do a short bio. so then i will take your questions. i do come from pittsburgh. my father and his father was a coal miner. my mother was a very smart lady, but very undereducated. she was highly opinionated.

and her mother lived with us off and on and she could barely speak english. the town where i grew up, i don't remember except for one guy who lived catty corner to us. i never remember seeing a white shirt. everyone in this town had a blue-collar, i never remember seeing a white shirt. everyone in my hometown was a democrat. we do not have republicans living there. it was a conservative, god-fearing common sense town. if the wind blew the wrong way, people found themselves out of work. i was talking to agent him and -- i was talking to a gentleman here whose father was the postmaster in downtown pittsburgh, apparently had a lot of say in the area. the reason i bring that up is -- i was never aware of us getting special things. you know, we never got a ticket

to go see the world series. we never got a ticket to go see the playoff games. i can't hardly remember whether or not we even got a ticket to go see the steelers play. because we just didn't have those connections. i have not talked much about this, but i learned as a kid to kind of fight for the underdog. i learned as a kid to stick up for people who a lot of times people don't stick up for. and that is burned in my soul. that does not mean that people who are successful need to be torn down. i can remember my father saying to me, johnny, we do not hate the rich, we want to be the rich. and so my values were shaped in that little town. and i really carry that through my whole lifetime. my mother was very opinionated.

and i learned a lot from her, because she was someone who really -- she would shake it up. she was a change agent and it is a shame she didn't have an education, because of what she could have done. and my parents always kind of planted -- i will tell you an interesting story. the one thing i wanted to be, i wanted to play on the little league team. i was a pretty good ballplayer, but i was a little skinny guy who would be easy to ignore. when you try out for the baseball team, you put a number on your back. it is not like baseball teams today where everybody gets a trophy. back then, you have a number on your back and run out into the field. when i think back, my glove was bigger than me. and so what would happen, you go out there for batting practice, go out to the field.

you go for a day or two. then the coaches would write your number down and they would call you and tell you that you are on the team. i never got a call. i never got a call. and i said to my father, dad, a lot of kids at the school yard, they are on baseball teams, but they do not play as well as i do. but their dads are coaches or know somebody, so could you talk to somebody and get me on the team? you know what my dad said, johnny you will earn it. we are not going to owe anybody anything. think about that for a second. what a powerful statement that was to an 11-year-old boy. that is how i have conducted myself. if you support me, give me something, it does not get you anything special or it i will

know you and i will respect you and listen to you. but, nobody calls the tune on john kasich. nobody. maybe the lord, but nobody. no doubt my wife -- [laughter] other than that. but when you combine the sense of sticking up for people who have not always been heard and you combine that with a sense of people should have the right to grow and become something big. johnny we do not hate the rich, we want to be the rich. and then about my mother being independent, having an independent voice. it has made me in some ways a different kind of public official. i moved to ohio and i went to ohio state. i do not mince my words -- i was in michigan today

and i didn't tell them that i went to ohio state -- well, i did. they know. [laughter] a lot of wonderful things happen. a lot of you have heard my stories how i started life. i feel like i have been struck by lightning and i feel as though i have had some blessings to be able to take the skills i have and use them to try to do some good. because my mother and father always said, make sure that wherever you are the place is better because you are there. so i am -- i have all these -- always subscribed to that. i was elected to office at a very young man. i started running about 25 years. i knew no one in my senate district. the legislature in ohio is, we have 11.5 million people, i represented 350,000, which is almost the same number of

american congressmen. i didn't know anybody when i ran. i didn't know anybody in the republican party. tell you the truth i had been , working in the legislature. but you know what i did? i recruited, like the women standing here with these shirts on, i would go to their homes and talk to them and ask if they would help me. we created a volunteer army. which is what i like to say when i run for office, this is not a campaign, this is a movement. and i won. it was a shocking win. nobody would have expected me to win, because i ran against a guy who was a household word. and i got in there. i was 26. the youngest in the office in ohio history. i served for four years. there were a couple things going on. one was i was in the minority for two years. and then my third year i was in the majority. but the house was democrats, so i had to figure out, am i a republican or a ohio in.

first and foremost, a conservative. i didn't want to raise taxes, i wanted to make the government as small as i could. it made total sense to me. that comes from my blue-collar background. where things are big -- if things are big, they do not work well. and so i had to learn how to work with people in the other party to get things done. and after those four years iran for congress. in 1976, i was working as an aid in the legislature before i was elected. and i was a fan of ronald reagan. i mean a rabid fan of ronald reagan. i mean, i went door-to-door in columbus ohio, like we were running out of time. at midnight, they were furious at me. i said look, you can be mad at me, but sign this petition to

get ronald reagan on the ballot. one senator i was working for was in the reagan trust and he called me one day and said i'm really busy out here, can you fly out to kansas city, i need help. i got there and i went into the trailer with these people who are trying to get delegates to vote for reagan. when i walked in, they said that somebody didn't show up and we wonder if you can manage five delegations in the country to help reagan become president. i have no idea what that meant, but i said absolutely. i can do it. and so i had an opportunity at that convention to travel with ronald reagan. delegationsgo to and i was able to introduce him. i was 24 years old. you know? i was steeped in that from the beginning. i ran for congress after that state senate effort. let me not leave this out. i get into the majority and republicans want to raise taxes. so i'm against it.

i had made a promise that it would not support a tax increase. so my colleagues are to call me names in the newspaper. i have never told the stories before. and they were calling me irresponsible. i said he was a calming irresponsible, i will write my own budget. that was the first time. i wrote my own budget, i was 28 years old. i wrote a budget for ohio to close the deficit so we would not have to raise taxes. so the budget, it gets defeated, obviously but i had learned , something there. if you know the budget and you know how government works and you have more knowledge than anybody else. i run for congress and i run with reagan in 1982, i am the only republican to defeat an incumbent democrat that year. and iran on the reagan tax cuts and smaller government and to be able to defeat the soviet union as president reagan used to say,

his philosophy on the soviet union, we win, they lose. ok? it is simple. i go down there and i start my service on armed services committee, learning about the defense. i became a defense reformer because i found the wrenches and hammers. some of you remember that. it was a little uncomfortable to be a defense reformer and a republican, but it was the right thing to do. six years in, i got to the budget committee. i went to my first meeting and i didn't like what was going on. i am a conservative. i want a balanced budget. that year, my first year, i offer my own budget and the vote on that was 405, no and 30, yes. i thought i was doing great. i offered a budget year after year. i will explain a little bit to you about how this works. because my great friend, john, i

love john and kitty. i would not be running for president if john had not come to be and said you should do this. it would not happen. back in those days i became the senior republican in the budget committee and then the chairman. we broke up into groups. i would take 4-5 members of the committee and i would assign them to area to research and fix. and then i would take another group and ask them. here is where the ground rules. you need to look at all of these programs and if they do not work we will get rid of them. if you can work, we can fix them. if they can be privatized, we will privatize them and i want you to think outside the box. don't think like you work in the government, think like you work in business and come up with a better mousetrap. here is the other ground rule. nobody, but nobody, has influence over you.

you can talk to people, consult with people, but at the end of the day, it is an intellectually honest exercise. let the chips fall where they may. and we did that. then in 1997, we landed on the first balanced budget since man had walked on the moon, we pay down the largest amount of the modern debt that was held by the public and we cut taxes on capital gains. and the economy was doing great. i was also on the defense committee, so i had to make decisions about war, resources that america has, and i worked with some of the greatest minds in the modern history of the u.s. from john tower, to barry goldwater, these were giants, this was the time when republicans and democrats work together because we were all americans first and it was a great experience. so i left washington, i thought i am done with this, getting out

of town, i wanted to go to the private sector. so i worked at lehman brothers as an investment banker, i traveled all over. a seminal experience for me. i learned how businesses work and i really learned about how decisions get made. and then you remember what a big television star i was at fox news. i mean i was huge. , and i did a bunch of other things and then i felt called back into government. i told my wife i was thinking about going back and she said, that is ok with me. she said, you will be sleeping on the porch for the next four years. then she finally understood, i tell you what, the lord has a purpose for all of us. maybe you do not think that way, maybe you are a humanist, and if you are you have a purpose for living, improving the lives of people around you. i could not look the other way, so i went and ran for governor

and i was the first person to beat an incumbent in over 30 years. for somebody who i never run statewide and had been out of politics for 10 years nobody , like that had been elected like that against an incumbent for 96 years. it was a good cosmic. accomplishment. i went to work with the same philosophy i had in washington. we were a billion dollars in the holethe credit was going on the train, people were feeling hopeless. we put this program together, after my first year i had a 28% approval rating, was the most unpopular governor in america. have to work hard to be that unpopular. then we started to feel the sun come up. 4.5 years later, we are no longer in debt, we have a $2 billion surplus, we cut taxes by almost $5 billion, the largest amount by any sitting governor in america. we are up over 330,000 jobs and

our credit is strong. another thing i want to tell you, when we do better, everybody should do better. if you live in the shadows, if you are mentally ill, we are going to help you. we do not want you to be put in jail or in prison where we have 10,000 mentally ill people in our state and in every shade across the country. we need to help them get on their feet and become productive. if you are drug addicted, the revolving door of prison and drug dealer is it no more. we are going to treat you and rehab you and get you on your feet. if you are the working poor, we do not want you spending your time in the emergency room where it is more expensive, we want you to get decent health care and make sure that if you are the working poor, you continue to get pay raises without losing

childcare. if you are developmentally disabled, we will mainstream you. if you are in the minority community, we will help you create entrepreneurship. because i think being a conservative means opportunity for everybody. somehow, somebody has put conservatives in a box. you know being a conservative is , about government as a last resort and not a first resort and it is about letting people keep more in their pockets rather than sending it to a faraway place. it is about school choice, it is about many things, about running america from the bottom up. but i think that conservatives are also about having a big heart. about giving people an opportunity to live out their god-given purpose. that is what opportunity is about in america. i can tell you that that is what is about.

one other thing i can tell you, tonight it is time that , americans stop complaining about things. we live in an unbelievable country. do we have our problems? why don't we get of tomorrow morning and count our blessings for having been born in the u.s. ok we have problems, but they , can be solved and they can be solved because when we hang together, we have real strength, real purpose. if i become president, there are like three things i would like to focus on. right away one is the issue of , economic growth. any public official that is worth their salt have to create an environment for job creation. that means we have to deregulate our society, we have to give companies incentives to move profits back from europe so they invest in america. we need to give incentives to invest in plants and equipment so workers can have tools and

be productive and get higher wages. we need to work on workforce training so we train people for jobs that exist and we need to be in a position where we look at the tax code and simplify it. so many things we need to do to create economic growth and a lot of it is attitude. secondly, we need to rebuild our defense. but we have to reform our pentagon. it used to be, it would take 5-6 years to research development and employ a weapons system, now takes over 20 years. how about if i told you you will build a house, but then you will move in in 20 years. we need to reform that building and rebuild our military strength. frankly we are leaders of the , world, whether we know it the leader. finally, i think we need to reignite citizenship. what do i mean by that?

i think we as americans and as members of western civilization need to realize that we need to lead a life bigger than ourselves. that is what the one campaign is about. you lead a life bigger than you. and secondly we all need to be centers of justice, centers of healing, so we can take care of our communities. so we can have a healthier society. you know, it does not sound like a campaign speech does it? i hope it sounds bigger, this is like rekindling the flame in our country. we can do it. it is not that hard. sometimes the politicians will not be able to get it, but the people do. i remember when ronald reagan said you write letters to tip o'neill, and he ended up having more letters on his desk then in

that movie miracle on 34th street. let us rebuild the defense, let's reignite citizenship and let's be a leader of the world. that is my story and i am sticking to it. [applause] yes, in the back. bright yellow shirt. >> thank you governor, excellent words. they really do resonate. no question. let me tell you i met with nine of the candidates, honestly, those words also resonated. they all have their own story. all powerful messages. and we appreciate that. how does governor kasich separate himself from the pack, differentiate himself to really rise above that pack and be

memorable for this audience and audiences all over the u.s. -- what is there that is special or unique about john that you really want us to take home? i am a marketing guy. gov. kasich: first of all, i am just who i am. i am not going to put two-cones in my mouth or take my shirt off, i will not do that. my approach is that i will do the best i can and you have to listen and if you like it, great. if you do not like it, i will cry for 10 minutes and then my life will be ok. we will see. one thing i have that i think is unique -- i have done all the things i have talked about. this is not about what i might do. or what i think we ought to do. do you ever notice that when people run for president they never keep promises. they make promises that are

unrealistic or that cannot be kept. we talk about balancing a budget, i have balanced many of them. we talk about experience in defense, have that. we talk about understanding what it means to be an executive in a very big state where their challenges every day, i have lived it. i think today people want us to acknowledge the anxieties that exist in this country, and i grew up with them, but at the end of the day people want the airplane to be landed. i think the most powerful thing i can offer is to look at my past, because that will tell you what will happen in the future. and so, you know it is , experience, it is results, it is record. i think that is about as well as i can do. thank you. >> the story you told about your upbringing is amazing, but it is one that is so inaccessible to folks today, kids who were born into a place like you had, they

may not have those opportunities today. what needs to happen at a policy level close the opportunity gap? twoas you talk about, the community. gov. kasich: i think the american dream is alive today. i do not think that my story is particularly unique, everyone has a story about who they were. what is it we need? first of all, we need a growing economy. that means you have opportunity. if you knock on doors that have no jobs, it is hard to get a job. right? so we need a growing economy and i do not think that people in washington have understood how you grow and economy. this is the weakest recovery since world war ii. it has not been good. secondly, i also think that i am

a big believer in mentoring. i think when you tell somebody when they are young, what their potential is and encourage them for their dreams, it is amazing how you create a determination and will to do it. i mean, there are some things i consider to be very important to teach our kids. five things. one, personal responsibly. the dog ate my homework went out in the fifth grade. you need to accept it. second, resilience, you get knocked down, pick yourself up. i love the line by michael vick, the quarterback, you only have one chance to make a good second impression. i love that. thirdly, the issue of empathy, it moves us to care about people who we want to see move up the ladder. and fourthly, it is family,

family is so important. if we do not have family, we do not have america. right? and we need to reemphasize and understand that important. and faith. have to believe that everybody on this earth was created for purpose. we have to figure out what that purpose is and what your skills are and apply them. i do not think that people who come from where i come from or here don't have an opportunity to move up, but you cannot take no for an answer. you know how many times i have been knocked down in my lifetime, my family said, pick yourself up and move on. the key is, when you knock on the door enough, they get so aggravated that they will let you in. we need to remind young people of that. we believe in local control of education. we need to make sure that schools are performing. not based on some title or headline.

how are they doing, how they compare with the rest of the country. we need to give young people skills. and you have to break the agrarian model. everyone learns differently. say i like math, if i can go work for this guy for three hours a week and understand what his system does, i will get energized. when i was a kid i used to go to court and listen to lawyers argue, surprise, now i am a politician. right? but the fact is that having a flexible education -- for those who do not want the academic approach, we should have vocational education, so we can meet the skills of where people are. a growing economy, better education, it can do attitude, resilience, and a little bit of faith. that is what i would say would work. yes? right here.

>> specifically how are you , going to fix the affordable care act? kasich: it does not do what it was supposed to do. lower the price of health care. in my state, we have taken medicaid -- we have a program in ohio where we think the primary care doctor should be the shepherd. we should have a medical home run by primary care doctors. who can move us through the challenges that we have with our health. dealing with insurance companies and providers. now we have a program in columbus, we have a children's hospital has an agreement with the insurance companies. they are looking at asthma. if we can keep you healthy without putting you in the hospital, that is great. isn't it?

secondly, it means the hospital gets less revenue, but it means the insurance covering gets more profit. guess what, they share the benefit of keeping that kid healthy and out of the hospital. that is how it should run health care. it should not be based on quantity, but quality. you go to the hospital tonight, comforted they will give you 10 , tests when you only need to. wo. and nobody cares, because a third party is paying for it. we need quality medicine. we need to move to a system that is designed to reward doctors to keep us healthy, rather than treating us when we are sick. we will have a better health care system and we will have more control. we will let the free market incident b incentivize this. yes? >> i wanted to ask you about the

team you will build when you become president. what type of person for being the vice president, how he -- how you gather folks around you to run all this? you live in -- gov. kasich: you live in new hampshire? will you be available? that is a very big part of being a leader. first of all, if you come in to look at problems that we have, it is not unusual to find 20 people in a room with me. what i encourage is open dialogue. tell me what is on your mind. come in here and be creative. when you are president, you have to have good advisors and a good cabinet. they should be dedicated to job creation and common sense. and you have to have people in

your inner circle that you trust that are not subjected to group thinking. you need to be out there. one thing i would like to do i think you can run a better program to deliver health care to the poor can it -- then i can -- then they can in washington. as president, i would like to travel to all legislatures around the country on a regular basis and hear what is working. what is unique in massachusetts that you could learn here, or use here. best practices always work. we should give people the reasons to better serve the public. then when it comes to defense, you have to have military leaders that tell you the truth

and don't care for their own little rice bowl. what do i mean by that? i have a friend who was once the coo of the cia and when i ask him questions, his answers are counterintuitive to what i think you will give me. you need to have direct answers that make sense, that are not reflecting just your own personal gain or interest. and then you need civilian leaders who are experts in defense. at the end of the day, the president has to have the right instincts, the right experience, the right gut. that is how it works. you, i was al congressman, i am a governor. not a lot of difference, just day and night.

i am constantly being faced with decisions, i have a good staff. at the end of it, at the end of the day, it is on me. at the and of the day, it is on me and then you judge how i do by the results. it is not theory. it is not theory, it is results. do you make mistakes, of course you do. but you keep it moving in the right direction. and you respect the people that put you in office. when i get elected i am a ceo basically, and i assemble a team to run the companies best as i can. ok listen, they are telling me i have to go. here is what i would say. if you're interested, check us out. if you want to do something that this, not as magnificent, that is fine. ok, maybe we can come to your house. i am doing town halls. i would really like you to help you. appear, i will say this about new hampshire. this is a great system. people say, why do you like it so much there?

i said, two congressional seats, you can -- and people will look at you and listen to you and they will look in your eyes and feel what you are all about. if they like you, they will reward you. if they do not, then they don't and you didn't connect and it wasn't the right time. when i was here 16 years ago, they said, we like you, but it is not your time. so this time maybe, maybe he can make it my time. thank you, god bless. [applause] >> will you sign this? stickers. the casing a lot of them went already. >> how are your daughters?

you told me about the last time. >> good. how old are you? >> 17 years old. >> you are a volunteer? i have only seen you 100 times. you think i would know you. how is it your dad? >> he is well. i think he will be coming. my mom is here. >> thank you. how is school? >> is great. i did like eight hours of homework. you can sign you know to get me how of my history homework. >> i got the autograph now. >> we have a long road. >> good point.

that is right. >> hello governor. >> i know you, alan. i just saw you. we have to get her one of my books. >> hello, nice to see you. i am sam. >> how are you? there are about 100 people around the corner. i hope you are in shape. >> are we going to be wrestling everybody? >> running for president. >> hello governor, nice to me. >> how are you? >> you look well. >> we will introduce you.

say hello to your better half. >> i am going to have a meeting before the meeting. >> hello, how are you? [indiscernible] >> where are we going to do this? >> can i get my picture with you. i am amanda. >> you are in my top-tier governor.

>> how are you? >> welcome. >> there a nice to meet you. >> thank you. >> have you heard of this country here, they make handguns. >> nice to see you. how is everything? >> you are so shy, you wouldn't come over. [laughter] >> you are shy? >> i am.

>> hello, this is lee. >> i know her. >> this is ken. >> let's step right up. >> nice. >> can i get a picture? >> sure. my name is terry sanders. >> terry, what do you do? >> i am in advertising. >> most important, she is our neighbor. she lives on the hill, she is letting us have his party. the rock bands will be arriving an hour. who do you like? >> pretty much all of them.

>> governor? >> this is janet. welcome to new hampshire. >> what happened to you? >> rotator cuffs, how do you do that? was there a moment? wear and tear. >> how long have you been in this? >> three weeks. thingsne of the toughest to recover from. >> ok. >> hello, governor. good to see you. make your way in here. >> thank you. >> thank you. [laughter] >> you earned it. >> ann smith, great to meet

you. >> let me get a picture. >> oh yeah, bob. [indiscernible] >> what were you doing? inaudible] >> what were you doing? >> in d.c. >> you know, i walked into kelly's office and i walked in and i said i have to tell you, i have a really big complaint and i want to see the senator now. and they were like, she is in washington. i said, that is a likely story. they are always in washington when there is a problem. i wrote the note and said, give this to the senator please. no, i didn't tell them. i just told them i was a new hampshire constituent.