rep. wasserman schultz: i think that, when you have been through the worst economic crisis the world has seen since the depression, it was not just america that went through an economic downturn, the entire world did. in some cases, other countries intointo any for -- went an even deeper dive than we did for the i think it shakes people's confidence in the future to their core. even while we have then through the hardships we have here in america, i think there is a tremendous amount of confidence in the ground people are standing on, even from one year ago. when you have faced losing your house, when you have lost your house, when you have lost your job, when you have candidates on the republican side might get the nomination and become president, you are threatening

your retirement security by proposing to change your health care program. into a voucher system. the program, on the republican l $6,000 more a year out of the pocket. people have to make their own investment decisions on retirement funds going forward. what contributes to uncertainty and feeling like they are not sure that the ground is going to remain firm. so, i think that that causes voters to turn to candidates and leaders who are going to focus on policies that will ensure that their chance to reach, and remain in, the middle class are greater.

do you think the democratic arctic in the u.s.? rep. wasserman schultz: of course, absolutely. i think the left is the center of america right now. not the far left, or the far right, that i think the messages that come from left and center, that focus on reaching the cornerstones of the middle class where americans are today. say, wess on center to need to make sure people get a living wage and equal pay for equal work is paramount. that you can ensure that you have access to quality and affordable health care. when it comes to the quality, that everyone should be treated equally. love is love.

you don't have that being challenged. there are two republican --didates for president that has defied is supreme court ruling. republicant presidential candidates that think it is ok to defied the united states supreme court. they think it is ok to do so to to denyt people -- people their constitutional rights. that is where the republican party is. it isr question is, that now mainstream to believe that people should have the right to equality and reach the middle class, and it is off to the extreme right where the republicans are, because they are wrong on all of the issues. they are the opposite on the issues i described false that i think america is leading where

our party is focused. >> i would like to return to the exclusivity clause in the debates. i know you said there was an opportunity for there to be forums. i am wondering why you chose to have the exclusivity clause, even after the campaigns were told there were not be an exclusivity clause. rep. wasserman schultz: we were never told there would not be an exclusive bus -- and exclusivity clause, not once. >> thank you for clearing that up. i was wondering why you're hanging onto the exclusive and he clause, and what the purposes. rep. wasserman schultz: the purpose is to make sure that the democratic debate process does not get out of control. when you had, like i said, i spoke to a number of other previous chairs and consulted them on having been through, i

have been through a presidential cycle as chair in which we had an incumbent president where there were no debates, we had no primary. i am going through an open residential contest where we have a primary. the wide variety of opinn that i got from the previous chairs and others, and from my own observations because i was involved in the previous presidential campaigns myself, was that, if you do not have the national party put a reasonable number of debates, and insist to, the number is adhered it does allow a lot of control. campaigntire primary contest is built around an out-of-control debate schedule. and by the way, let me point out that the republicans are doing the exact same thing. you got 17 candidates, 90 been scheduled -- nine debates

scheduled. that is proportionate to our five candidates and six debates. we are doing the exact same thing. public and are doing, for the same reason. we have sanctioned the number of debates that have been previously been sanctioned. andis the number is 2004 2008 that were previously sanctioned goal. you can see that our candidates are gaining steam on their own. look at the crowds bernie sanders is drawing. we have not had any debates yet, but bernie sanders found a way to catch fire with our base, and with voters. making sure candidates had opportunity to be out on the trail.

debates are important as well. we will have six debates in which our candidates will have an opportunity, but they also need an opportunity to be out on the trail and be seen in other venues. >> i'm sorry. butirst of all, specifically democrats. first of all, as parties, you are competing against the whole new world of fundraising operations. i was wondering if that effects your operations at all, if you are feeling donor fatigue? and for the democratic party, i think all of the leading candidates have come out with their proposals for financial funding. you have to deal with the rules of the road will stop republicans raised far more money by super pac's then democrats have. are you concerned about that in a general election that there will be a giant super pac on the

republican side and the democrats will not be able to compete? rep. wasserman schultz: ultimately, president obama was reelected because the contract that was drawn between mitt romney and barack obama was very clear. repealingy was for the affordable care act. he was portrayed trickle down economics and only focused on the 47%. demonstrative of being out of touch with the priorities of americans. they clearly have not learned anything, from my experience. they have an expulsion of candidates on the other side that have taken mitt romney's positions and put them on steroids. the contrast between our candidates and there's will be very clear. transparentnd campaign finance laws that ensure that it is not donors that take the elected officials. that they cannot buy our elected

officials. our party believes that we should make sure that campaigns are driven by a transparent finances to him that allows for people to know where the money is coming from. we should go back to the system. limitations that do not allow for astronomical sums of money to be dumped into campaigns that are shadowy and dark. that having been said, while fighting for that reform, we are not going to unilaterally disarm. we are going to function in the system as it exists today. there is a little bit less enthusiasm for that process than there is on the other side of th. our party does not need super pac's to be successful. we built barack obama's

campaigns, the most significant grassroots, digitally sophisticated campaign-finance system that has ever been seen. and now, we are taking it to the next level and i expect that to empower the candidates back to the white house. >> rollcall? >> i wanted to ask you about redistricting at the congressional level. what are democrats predictions about how many seats could possibly take up the cycle in a longer-term? rep. wasserman schultz: the important thing for us, and i and goingexperience to the process in florida, that the voters are able to pick the candidates. voters able to pick their representatives, and not the voters being picked.

63% of the with vote, we sent a strong message in the state that they one of the legislatures to follow standards. the republicans got caught red-handed. ultimately that they violated because division intentionally. unprecedented admission for any redistricting process. now, they have on through and had a congressional redistricting special session blow up in their face. it looks like the court is it willo choose what look like for the next cycle. in the state senate will have to redraw the map as well. there are similar things playing out in other states. it is reallyat important to have a redistricting process that is fair. , that will not national that will

reflect the political balance of the state. it will give voters the opportunity to elect one of their own and maintain that while ensuring that, and again we have for under 50,000 more registered democrats. 450,000 more registered democrats. even while florida continues to obviously,state, deliberately going there to favor republicans, footer said no. we want to choose. we want a fair chance to choose the person we think is best to represent us. i am confident of the party chair. the voters will have an opportunity to compare our candidates with their candidates. in most of the time, they will choose our candidates. >> we have three minutes left. heidi, from usc.

donald trump is a billionaire who cannot be bought. common threadany there. he is a different end of the spectrum. rep. wasserman schultz: donald trump appears to be running a presidential campaign like a reality tv show. it is hard to assess donald 's actions on any given day. is there anything else? has mentioned and , but he isions

uptly focused on drumming xena phobic fears. cannot build a wall with mexico, but now he says we should build a wall with canada. we should just close up shop, pull up the runways, and close everybody in here. the night access to the american dream for those want to come here and make a better way of life for themselves both top that is how he caught fire. then he doubled down and make comments about women and demonstrated how he truly feels about women. yesterday, i think it was yesterday in an interview, he even had the nerve to make an outrageous comment about one of his fellow candidates looks.

i am sorry, i'm just not willing to give donald trump credit for having critical -- having credible beliefs. he has not demonstrated those both top judging why republicans are supporting him is for them. he has made some comments on policy individually that i think are popular stick and out of step with the way the rest of republicans think. i would not want to give him so much credit for actually be elieving that should happen. he believes that full advances candidacy. i am not sure. that. i will go back to

is, having come through a tough economic. period,gh economic whether donald trump's comments have an appeal on their side, the consistency in which our on a seems that in sure you can have firm ground. i think the high priority for now, is voters right people want to have confidence in the government again. who, it was cruz, not enough to shut the government down over denying access to health care. now he is continuing to run for president. trying tof them are get us in a fight. 28 male republican signed a

letter saying they would not continuing resolution that included funding for planned parenthood. -- absolutely, with will send us to government shutdown again over health care for women. >> we are unfortunately out of time. for being here. rep. wasserman schultz: my pleasure.

>> one of the headlines is vice president biden's secret meeting in new york city last week. we have john heilemann, the cohost of "all due respect." he's the co-author of "game change." thank you for being with us. john heilemann: always a pleasure. >> who is he and what did you learn. john heilemann: robert is a guy who was turned away for a long time. he was an important donor, prior to the 2008 cycle. one008, he became important he broke with his wall street compatriots and backed barack

obama before he was seen as a credible challenge to hillary clinton. he raised a lot of money for obama in 2008, and then again in 2012. in the process, he got himself closely to the president, which is unusual. obama does not have a lot of friends in wall street, or the business immunity. he and robert have become close personal friends. the vacation together and golf together. he also became an appointee in the administration. he is now on the president's export council. he is been on the infrastructure panels. he was on the economic recovery board. interestingly in this context though, he, after a few months ago, after it looks like only hillary clinton and not joe biden was going to be running for president, he came out and said he was going to be for hillary clinton. that is where the intrigue begins with him taking part in the secret meeting with president -- vice president

biden who was in town in new york. he summoned wolf to see him at his hotel where they spent 90 minutes getting to know each other a little bit. they began a courtship that could blossom into a romance of some consequence if he decides to run. >> some speculated on his appearance with stephen colbert. it was an emotional video and got many place on youtube. this development you learnt over the weekend, again, read the tea leaves. based on what you heard he told stephen colbert and what you heard behind the scenes. rep. wasserman schultz: i think he is paying 100% honest. not just what he told stephen colbert, but what he has been saying publicly and privately. joe biden is still grieving for the loss of his son. he is an old-fashioned patriarch. the welfare of his family, and his extended family, all of the

grandkids, he cares enormously about them. trying to get to a place where he feels emotionally ready to give it his all, and do a presidential run, and feel like they are ready to go through that with him, is a huge barrier to him running. that, he wants to be president of the united states and thinks he is the most qualified person. he thinks he is more qualified than hillary clinton thinks he is a better politician will stop he looks of the problems she is having politically in season opening for him to run. he hears what has been a surprising and extraordinary outpouring of sympathy for him. and, people want to enter the race. looking at the polling, getting phone calls from donors, hitting a positive response when he goes , not the campaign trail, but at events like he did in pittsburgh, all of it is pushing

him i believe, and the basis of talking to people who have talked to him and his inner circle. i believe he is getting closer and closer every day to being able to get over the emotional hesitancy he has and being drawn to the political opportunity that he sees. >> let's talk about the timetable. the first am a credit debate is in one month falls up you are reporting he could wait until early november. rep. wasserman schultz: the timetable on joe biden continues to be pushed back. he originally said he would decide by the end of the summer falls up many people thought that would the labor day. way, given the process of recovery after his son's death, there was no way for him to get to a point where he could make a decision. he pushed the timetable to the end of september, early october. people now said, we don't necessarily have to go. few things happen in october that matter. there is the first debate, there

is the jefferson-jackson event in iowa that is a big democratic event with a lot of political significance. there is the state florida convention at the end of the month. those events would be good for him to take part in if he is going to run, but on the other side of the going, if they wait a little longer, he can still get ahead of the filing deadlines that file up in november, looting new hampshire where you have to get on the ballot. you get to wait and see if quentin -- if clinton's slide continues. you get to wait until after her testimy on benghazi hurts her or helps her. you get more time to read the wind and weather politically. you get time to put together the infrastructure of a campaign in waiting and you give him a little more time to process his grief and to bring his family to a place where they need to be to say, yes. >> the details are available online at bloomberg

politics.com. thank you for your time. congress, then senate returns tuesday and they take another procedural vote on a measure disapproving of the iran nuclear agreement. at 1:00 eastern, the vote is scheduled. later in the week, the senate is expected to debate about the van of the abortions after 20 weeks. what coverage always on c-span-two. the house returns wednesday. they discuss a bill enhancing the security at airports. then, legislation that will band federal funding to planned parenthood. and leslie federalization -- unless the organization agrees to stop funding abortions. coming up on c-span, the vermont senator and presidential candidate bernie sanders at liberty university.

and then carly fiorina speaks at an event in new hampshire. and then president obama talks about education in des moines, iowa. tuesday, a discussion on pope francis'views of capitalism and whether it leads to inequality and poverty. we will be live at noon eastern, here on c-span. a signature feature of book-tv is the all-day coverage of book fairs and festivals are mccroskey country with top nonfiction authors. here's the schedule will stop near the end of september we are in new york for the brooklyn book festival, celebrating its 10th year. in early october, it is the southern festival of books in nashville. after that, we are live in austin for the texas book festival. at the and of the month, we'll be covering to book festivals from the same weekend. andwisconsin book festival

medicine and on the east coast, the boston book festival. at the start of november, we will be in portland, oregon for wordstock. a band of november, we are live for the atp or in a row for the miami book fair international. that is a few of the fairs and festivals this fall on c-span2's book tv. andonday, vermont senator presidential candidate bernie sanders spoke to students at liberty university, the christian school in lynchburg, virginia. he was introduced by the president of the college and engaged in a question and answer session full top this is about 50 minutes. >> thank y bernie sanders: thank you for

that warm introduction. to convocation this morning. we are humbled to welcome a very special guest. senator bernie sanders. [applause] the democratic candidate for president of the united states. we made roomrs, for a lot of your supporters locally on the front row, so you have a fan club. 2006, senator sanders was elected to the u.s. senate for the first time after serving for 16 years as the sole congressman from vermont. he went on to be reelected in 2012. he was born in oakland, new york and attended -- brooklyn, new york and attended the university of chicago.

in 1981, he was elected mayor of burlington, vermont by 10 votes. under his leadership, he helped transform erlang 10 one of the most exciting and livable city hesh he transformed -- helped transform burlington into one of the most exciting and livable cities in the nation. tirelessly forht families. he was dubbed "the amendment king" for passing more amendments than anyone else in congress. he lives in burlington, vermont now. since david came to me and told me that senator sanders had agreed to speak at liberty, i said that is great. asking, can you

find common ground with the senator? i think i did. senator sanders, if you would come up. [applause] i think in the future, he will be a fan of the liberty flames. we already found some common ground, i hope. we welcome you to liberty university. we are humbled and honored that you would come here. please give him a warm welcome. [applause] sanders bank -- sanders -- sen. sanders: thank you. president falwell and david, thank you for inviting my wife

jane and me to be with you this morning. let me start off by a knowledge acknowledging what all of you already know. that is the views that you have and i have on a number of important issues are very different. i believe in women's rights. [applause] right of a woman to control her own body. [applause] i believe in gay rights and gay marriage. views, and it is no secret. today, becausee

i believe from the bottom of my heart that it is vitally important for those of us who hold different views to be able to engage in a civil discourse. too often in our country, on , there is too much shouting at each other. there is too much making fun of each other. , and i say this as someone whose voice is hoarse because i have given dozens of speeches and a last few months,

it is easy to talk about people who agree with you. i was in greensboro, north carolina last night. we have 9000 people. mostly they agreed with me. tonight we have thousands. that is not hard to do. that is what politicians do. we talked to people who agree with us. but it is harder. but not less important. to try and communicate with those who do not agree with us on every issue. [applause] sen. sanders: and it is important to see where if possible, and i do believe if possible, we can find common ground.

now liberty university is a religious school, obviously. [applause] and all of you are proud of that. [applause] you are a school which, as all of us in our own way tries to understand the meaning of morality, what does it mean to live a moral life? and you try to understand in this very complicated modern world that we live in, what the words of the bible mean in today's society. you are a school which tries to teach its students how to behave with decency and with honesty,

and how you can best relate to your fellow human beings. and i applaud you for trying to achieve those goals. [applause] let me take a moment, or a few moments, to tell you what motivates me in the work that i do as a public servant, as a senator from the state of vermont. and let me tell you that it goes without saying, i am far from being a perfect human being, but i am motivated by a vision which exists in all of the great religions, christianity, judaism, islam, buddhism, and other religions.

that vision is so beautifully and clearly stated in matthew 7:12, and it states "so in everything do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law and the prophets. that is the golden rule." do unto others what you would have them do to you. that is the golden rule and it is not very complicated. let me be frank. as i said, i understand that the issues of abortion and gay marriage are issues that you feel very strongly about. we disagree on those issues. i get that.

but let me respectfully suggest that there are other issues out there that are of enormous consequence to our country and in fact to the entire world, that maybe, just maybe, we do not disagree on. and maybe, just maybe, we can try to work together to resolve them. [applause] amos 5:24, "but let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never failing stream. justice, treating others the way we want to be treated. treating all people, no matter

their race, their color, their stature in life, with respect and with dignity. [applause] in my view, it would be hard for anyone in this room today to make the case that the united states of america, our great countr to make the case that we are a just society, or anything resembling a just society today. [applause]

in the united states of america today, there is massive injustice in terms of income and wealth inequality. injustice is rampant. we live, and i hope all of you know this, in the wealthiest country in the history of the world. but most americans do not know that. because almost all of that wealth and income is going to the top 1%. that is the truth. we are living in a time -- and i warn all of you if you would, put this in the context of the bible, not me, in the context of the bible -- we are living in a

time where a handful of people have wealth beyond comprehension, and i'm talking about tens of billions of dollars. enough to support their families for thousands of years. with huge yachts and jet planes and tens of billions. more money than they would ever know what to do with. but at that very same moment, there are millions of people in our country, let alone the rest of the world, who are struggling to feed their families.

they are struggling to put a roof over their heads, and some of them are sleeping out on the streets. they are struggling to find money in order to go to a doctor when they are sick. now when we talk about morality, and when we talk about justice, we have to, in my view, understand that there is no justice when so few have so much and so many have so little. [applause] there is no justice, and i want you to hear this clearly, when the top 1/10 of 1%, not 1%, the top 1/10 of 1% today in america owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%. and in your heart, you will have

to determine the morality of that, and the justice of that. in my view, there is no justice when here in virginia and vermont and all over this country millions of people are working long hours for abysmal abysmally low wages of seven dollars an hour, eight dollars an hour, nine dollars an hour, working hard but unable to bring in enough money to adequately feed their kids. at the same time, 58% of all new income generated is going to the top 1%. you have got to think about the morality of that, the justice of that, and whether or not that is

what we want to see in our country. in my view, there is no justice when, in recent years, we have seen a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires while at the same time the united states of america has the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth. how can we? i want you to go into your hearts, how can we talk about morality, about justice, when we turn our backs on the children of our country? [applause]

now you have got to think about it. you have to think about it and you have to feel it in your guts. are you content? do you think it is moral that 20% of the children in this country, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, are living in poverty? do you think it is acceptable that 40% of african-american children are living in poverty? in my view, there is no justice and morality suffers. when in our wealthy country millions of children go to bed hungry.

that is not morality. and that in my view is not what america should be about. [applause] in my view, there is no justice when the 15 wealthiest people in this country in the last two years, two years saw their wealth increase by $170 billion. two years. the wealthiest 15 people in this country saw their wealth increase by $170 billion.

my friends, that is more wealth acquired in a two-year period that is owned by the bottom 130 million americans. and while the very, very rich become much richer, millions of families have no savings at all. nothing in the bank. and they worry every single day that if their car breaks down, they cannot get to work and if they cannot get to work, they lose their job. and if they lose their job they do not feed their family.

in the last two years, 15 people saw $170 billion increase in their wealth. 45 million americans live in poverty. that in my view is not justice. that is a rigged economy, designed by the wealthiest people in this country to benefit the wealthiest people in this country at the expense of everybody else. [applause] in my view, there is no justice when thousands of americans die every single year because they do not have any health insurance and do not go to a doctor when they should. i have talked personally to doctors throughout vermont and physicians all over this country. without exception, they tell me there are times when patients walk into their office very, very sick and they say, why didn't you come in here when you're sick?

and the answer is, i do not have any health insurance or i have a high deductible or i thought the problem would get better. and sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes they die because they lack health insurance. that is not justice. that is not morality. people should not be dying in the united states of america when they are sick. [applause] what that is, is an indication that we are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all people as a right. and i think we should change that. [applause]

and i think, i think that when we talk about morality, what we are talking about is all of god's children, the poor, the wretched. they have a right to go to a doctor when they are sick. [applause] there is a lot of talk in this country from politicians about family values. you have all heard that. let me tell you about a family value. in my view, there is no justice when low income and working-class mothers are forced to separate from their babies one or two weeks after birth, and go back to work because they

need the money that their jobs provide. i know everybody here, we all are. maybe in different ways, but all of us believe in family values. jane and i have four kids. we have seven beautiful grandchildren. we believe in family values. but it is not a family value when all of you know that the most important moments in time of a human being's life is the first weeks and months after that baby is born. that is the moment when mother bonds with the baby, gets to love and know her baby, and dad is there as well. that is what a family is about. those of you, at least those of you who are parents -- more parents back there than here i

suspect -- you know what an unforgettable moment that is. and i want you to think whether you believe it is a family value that the united states of america is the only, only major country on earth that does not provide paid family and medical leave. [applause] now in english, what that means is all over the world, when a woman has a baby she is guaranteed the right, because society understands how important that moment is, she is guaranteed the right to stay home and get income in order to nurture her baby.

and that is why i believe when we talk about family values, that the united states government must provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave. [applause] in my view, there is no justice in our country when youth unemployment exists at tragically high levels. i requested a study last month from a group of economists, and what they told me is that 51% of african-american high school graduates between the ages of 17 and 20 are unemployed or underemployed. 51%.

we have in this country sufficient amounts of money to put more people in jail than any other country on earth. the united states has more people in jail then china, a communist, authoritarian country. but apparently, we do not have enough money to provide jobs and education to our young people. i believe that is wrong. [applause] i am not a theologian. i am not an expert on the bible. nor am i a catholic. i am just a united states senator from the small state of vermont.

but, i agree with pope francis who will soon becoming to visit us in the united states. [applause] i agree with pope francis when he says, and i quote "the current financial crisis originated in a profound human crisis, the denial of the primacy of the human person." this is what he writes. "we have created new idols. the worship of the ancient golden calf has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money, and the dictatorship of an impersonal

economy lacking a truly human purpose." [applause] the pope also writes "there is a need for financial reform along ethical lines that would produce in its turn and economic reform to benefit everyone. money has to serve, not to rule." [applause] now those are pretty profound words, which i hope we will all think about. in the pope's view, and i agree with him, we are living in a nation and in a world, and the bible speaks to this issue, in a nation and in a world which worships not love of brothers

and sisters, not love of the poor and the sick, but worships the acquisition of money and great wealth. i do not believe that is the country we should be living in. [applause] mr. sanders: money and wealth should serve the people. the people should not have to serve money and wealth. [applause] mr. sanders: throughout human history, there has been endless discussion. it is part of who we are as human beings, people who think and ask questions, and less

-- endless discussion and debate about the meaning of justice and about the meaning of morality. and i know that here at liberty university, those are the kinds of discussions you have every day, and those are the kinds of discussions you should be having, and the kinds of discussions we should be having all over america. i would hope, and i conclude with this thought, i would hope very much that as part of that discussion and part of that learning process, some of you will conclude that if we are honest in striving to be a moral and just society, it is imperative that we have the courage to stand with the poor, to stand with working people,

and when necessary, take on very powerful and wealthy people whose greed, in my view, is doing this country enormous harm. thank you all very much. [applause] mr. sanders: thank you. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, senator. obviously, just a few minutes with some questions. these questions, sir, are from our student body.

we opened up to our student government the opportunity for questions to come your way, and a lot of questions poured in. i think these few questions in the few minutes we have with you will represent the main thoughts on the hearts of our students, the main things they wanted to know. i think you are going to find a lot of commonality obviously in wanting to see someone go to work and get paid more for it, wanting to see children not the hungry, wanting to see the reality of just racism being erased out of this country. you are going to find a lot of commonality obviously, for college students to hear from you that public higher education could be free, so anybody who is 19 will be excited about free college. the question is not so much the commonality in wanting to see those things, but how do we get there? in that kind of mindset, just a little bit about how we would

get there. as far as race inequality is concerned, this question from one of our students. if you were elected president, what would you do to bring healing and resolution to the issue of racism in our country? we both want to see that go away. what steps would you begin to take if you were our leader in seeing that resolved? mr. sanders: that is an excellent question. i would hope and i believe that every person in this room today understands that it is unacceptable to judge people, to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. [applause] mr. sanders: and i would also say that as a nation, the truth

is, that a nation in which many ways was created, and i'm sorry to have to say this, from way back on racist principles, we have come a long way as a nation. my guess is that probably not everybody here is an admirer or voted for barack obama. but the point is, in 2008 this country took a huge step forward in voting for a candidate based on his ideas and not the color of his skin. [applause] mr. sanders: and whether you like obama or not, and i do, he is a friend of mine and i work with him on many issues, that is a step forward for america. [applause] mr. sanders: but let me also say what everybody here knows, and my thoughts having just returned from south carolina, we all know

to what degree racism remains alive in this country. i cannot understand, i really cannot. i think about it, i try to understand it, how a sick man can walk into a bible study class, discuss the bible, pray with people in the room, and then take out a gun and kill nine of them because the color of their skins were different than his. and i cannot understand for the life of me, how there can be hundreds of groups in this country whose sole reason for existence is to promote hatred. these are hate groups. and they say, join us so we can hate african-americans or days or jews or emigrants or anybody that is different from us.

i cannot understand. but let us be clear. when you have unarmed african-americans shot by police officers, something which has been going on for years, that is also institutional racism and cries out for reform. [applause] mr. sanders: i am a former mayor who has worked closely with police officers. the vast majority of them are honest, work hard, and do a very good job. [applause] mr. sanders: but when a police officer breaks the law with any other public official, that officer must be held

accountable. [applause] mr. sanders: that is justice. and there is a lot to be done in terms of our criminal justice system, in terms of minimal sentencing, in terms of local police departments which look like armies that are invading a community. but to answer your question, i think what we have got to do is when we see instances of racism, when we hear political leaders appealing to the worst elements of us by making racist attacks against people from another country or people whose color may be different than most of us, we have got to stand up and say, in america you are not going to do that. [applause] >> we could not agree with you

more on that thought. we would say, i think i speak for many of our students, that it is not so much skin issue as it is a sin issue. [applause] >> that you can change the behavior of police, put cameras on them all day long, but behavior modification can only stop so short as identity change. [applause] >> i think we want what you want. mr. sanders: let me just say this. the answer is, obviously we have got to change our hearts. but everybody should know that 60, 70 years ago in this country, we had segregated schools and segregated restaurants. and it took a supreme court, it took martin luther king jr., it took millions of people demand

public policy which ended segregation. >> that is right. i think where you are going to find commonality is at liberty university, we are not interested in making sure people of color are invited to sit at the bus. we want to see them own the bus and on the restaurant. on protecting the vulnerable, i think our student are more passionate about that than any other thing. the question they wanted to know went way just beyond wealth inequality. we certainly have those kind of things, but protecting the vulnerable, this was probably the number one question we got. senator sanders, you have talked in your campaign about how it is immoral to protect the billionaire class at the expense of our most vulnerable in society, obviously children. you just mentioned that in your talk with us earlier. a majority of christians would agree with you, but would also

go further and say that children in the womb need our protection even more. [applause] >> how do you reconcile? so the question, sir, obviously you can see this is what they want to ask. how do you reconcile the two? i know you have a different view. i know that you, sir, and i do not have to be eye to eye on it. i sense a real sincerity in you on wanting to see our children protected. can you see how we see the child

in the womb is the most vulnerable? mr. sanders: i do, and i understand this is an area where we disagree. i understand and i believe that it is improper for the government to tell everyone in this country the painful and difficult choice she has to make on that issue. [applause] mr. sanders: i honestly, do not want to be too provocative, but very often conservatives say, get the government out of my life. i do not want the government telling me what to do. but on this very sensitive issue on which we are divided, a lot of people agree with you and a lot of people agree with me. my view is, i respect absolutely a family who says no, i'm not going to have an abortion. but i would hope that other people respect the very painful and difficult choice that many

women feel the have to make, and do not want the government telling them what they have to do. [applause] mr. sanders: but, i want to take that question a step further. we do disagree on that issue. no ifs or buts about it. here is where i hope we have common ground. i'm going to be partisan for a moment, because i want to lay this on your shoulders. i am a ranking member of the u.s. senate budget committee. i want to tell you, what was in the republican budget that passed a number of months ago. check it out. you think i'm not telling you the truth. when you talk about issues about

children, understand republican budget threw 27 million people off of health care, including many children. at a time when many families cannot afford to send their kids to college, and i am running on a program that says every public college and university in america should be tuition-free. but at a time when families cannot afford to send their kids to college, republican budget cuts $90 billion in pell grants over a ten-year. -- a ten-year period. republicans cut money for the wic program, which goes to low income pregnant women and their babies. to add insult to injury, in that budget, the republicans provided over $250 billion over a 10

year period in tax breaks to the top 2/10 of 1%. i do not think that is a moral budget. [applause] >> i do not pretend to be an expert on budgets, but i think a lot of us would be very interested in our government budgeting for planned parenthood. i think a lot of us would be very interested in looking for those budgets, and i think they get a lot more complex. in for just one more question, sir, for our last question on religious freedom. a lot of questions from our students who i think really were just very peppered with concern and broken heartedness when they see the world around them. this is where i genuinely sense in you, you are a lot like a father figure. mr. sanders: a grandfather figure, i am getting older every day.

>> and i sense that same concern in your heart as we would have. here is the question in that frame. we're watching on the news a refugee crisis in syria and religious minorities facing persecution in the middle east. how do you feel the united states should respond? do you feel that as the united states that we should be obligated, more than we even are now, in responding? that there would be a stewardship of responsibility on the greatest nation of the world, to step in even at a greater level. mr. sanders: obviously, the answer is yes but i do not quite know what the word "step in" means. if the question is, do we have a moral responsibility not just for, to work with europe and to work with some of these wealthy gulf-region countries like saudi

arabia, united arab emirates, kuwait, to help with this human tragedy. can you imagine people leaving their homes in syria and iraq with simply the clothes on their back, dragging their kids with them? do we had a lower responsibility to work the rest of the world in providing help bringing some of those people to this country? the answer is absolutely yes. absolutely yes. but, this is where it gets tricky. that is in a sense, a reasonably easy response. we should do that. all of you know that the middle east and other parts of the world are a real quagmire. we are living in a crazy and dangerous world, we see horror stories every day of isis and people doing barbaric thing. i voted against the war in iraq. [applause]

mr. sanders: and i voted against that war because i worried very much, and if you read what i wrote at that time, what i'm telling you is the truth, about the instability and destabilization that that would bring about. so the question of u.s. military force becomes part of this discussion. and let me just say this -- i am the former chairman of the united states senate committee on veterans affairs, and i would hope this is an area that all of us can agree on, that we are going to provide all of the health care and benefits that our veterans need. [applause] >> we have to take care of our own, absolutely. mr. sanders: but the cost of war is something that is far greater, i fear, then most

people know. and before we go off to war, we have got to make certain that we have explored every other possible option. [applause] mr. sanders: people may not know this, but as the former chairman i do. in iraq and afghanistan we lost 6700 brave men and women. many came home without legs and arms and eyesight. 500,000 of them came home with post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic rain injuries. -- brain injuries. their lives have been disrupted, families have been separated, children have suffered. a great nation like the united states of america, with the most powerful military on earth in my view, should use every possible opportunity to resolve international conflict without going to war.

war should be the last resort. [applause] >> absolutely. senator, it has just been an honor, sir, to have you with us. we on occasion have the opportunity to have questions and answers with some of our guests. the one thing we always end with is the question of how can we, and it is not just a statement, i really believe that our students are wanting to know, how can we lean in -- we know you were in north carolina last night, you are going to be in manassas this afternoon. meeting your staff, they are incredibly hard-working people in this very fast-paced where you and your wife are on that campaign trail with grandkids. you are the liveliest 73-year-old i have ever met, sir. how can we pray for you and your family? how can we be thinking of you?

when we think of you and see you, what can we say bernie sanders asked us to pray for him? mr. sanders: david, thank you very much for that thought. i appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. but this is what i would like to be -- prayers to be for. not just for me, for more significantly our prayers for our country, prayers for how we bring our people together, prayers for how we can create in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, a beautiful country, a country where all people have health care, where all kids have the ability to go to college, where we have wiped out childhood poverty. those are the prayers that i want to join with you in making. [applause] >> let's do that. let's do that now. let's pray together. can we do that?

father, we thank you for the fact that god, you owned the cattle on a thousand hills, that you are the great provider. father, at this very moment we come to you as the god of this universe, god that is able to provide, and we pray that your provisions would slow down. all people, god, all nations, we thank you, lord, where morality stops short spirituality can go further. and so we lean in on you. we thank you where government fails, god, that your kingdom prevails. we pray for a greater nature -- nation. we pray for justice and compassion and mercy to be the greatest thing that we are known for as a nation.

that our power would be known as a power that is spent, father, for the least of these. we love you, lord, thank you for this opportunity to come together. i pray for this man, his family, his team. give them sustainable pace as they are on the road. i pray that father, in this very moment, that he will know he has made friends today, that he has come into an environment where people show grace, show appreciation, and show humility, father. and also gratitude is in our hearts, that he would take the time out of his scheduled to come. amen. can we thank our senator bernie sanders? [applause]

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mchugh. we will join his remarks on c-span two. >> setting the stage for a new series on supreme court decisions with the national andtitution center hosting exploring the human stories behind this. it includes a georgetown professor and a senior fellow courtat the u.s. district and it is moderated by jeffrey rosen. that is live on wednesday on c-span. >> carly fiorini and[no audio]

>> i am really behind you. ms. fiorina: thank you so much. i really appreciate that. there is the new baby.

>> carly, thank you so much. >> how are you? bob marshall. >> carly, we are so honored to have you here. ms. fiorina: thank you so much. i so appreciate you. >> it is a very special day for us. ms. fiorina: me too. >> you can see this olive garden here. >> that is just my hobby. you do a very good job. it is truly spectacular. >> how much is money involved?

--the race, we have trouble there and all kinds of potential backing. how much does that play when you are in politics? ms. fiorina: you have to have enough, but we will be money alone does not win a race. if you do not have the right candidate with the right ideas, money is not going to fix tha >> when you get the message out, it affects when people spend a lot on tv ads. it affects the outcome. ms. fiorina: sometimes. i am not denying that money is important. as i think jeb bush is finding out, money is not everything. his strategy was shocked and awe. we will have all the money and we will lock this thing up and it is not working.

there are lots of ways to get your message out the it used to be the only way was a relatively small number of television stations and ads. now there are lots of ways. in general, candidates underestimate the ground game and overspend on the air. in the end, people have got to come out to vote. ads do not necessarily bring them out to vote. >> democrats, that is who we are competing against. you have the grassroots and crazy things like that that i never thought would happen. ms. fiorina: it is also true that in too elections, people do not come out to vote. >> do you think we will be able to get past hillary waste on -- based on benghazi.

ms. fiorina: i do not know. how are you? cool. there you go. that is the camera. how are you? >> i get a second look at the next president. ms. fiorina: anytime. will i have some money for you by the end of the year? ms. fiorina: that would be awesome. you have a few questions. problem we should have seen coming. lead, theca does not

world is very dangerous. u.n. estimates we have 60 million refugees around the globe escaping conflict zones. this is entirely predictable. administrations -- secretary of state clinton, they did not catch this three years ago. when you do not take advantage of your options, guess what happens over time? you do not have any options. i think the united dates -- the united states needs to lead on this crisis. the united states cannot just say, let's bring in 10,000 refugees. we do not have a way of vetting these people. this is a conflict zone. in thise terrorists zone. we have to be concerned about security and the safety of our nation. yes, it is heartbreaking, but we

have to be thoughtful and careful while working with our european allies. hi, benjamin. >> we were assigned a school project and our job is to advertise your thoughts and your opinions. i was wondering if i could get a picture with uv -- a picture with you. ms. fiorina: if you are going to advertise me, you have got to have a picture. >> thank you very much. ms. fiorina: you are welcome. thank you. thank you so much.

maureen mooney. thank you for your phone call. ms. fiorina: thank you. >> a founder's academy charter school, we would love to have you visit. that would be fantastic. thanks for all you do. and a pro-life woman -- ms. fiorina: that matters. >> it does matter. you are representing all of us out there and you are doing a great job. ms. fiorina: thank you so much. appreciate it. very good. thank you. i have a lot of new york friends who are big fans of yours and will be happy to see your photo on my facebook page. >> it is a pleasure to meet you.

>> certainly stands for all the causes of liberty. >> a pleasure to meet you. >> so glad that you met. we need your help. ms. fiorina: what is your name? westover. ms. fiorina: westover. ok. ok. are you voting age yet? >> not quite. ms. fiorina: do you want a picture to go with your signature? is your brother back here? come on. do not be shy. how pretty you look today. there you go. how is that?

>> thank you. >> carly. ms. fiorina: how are you? >> if you are president, what are we going to call him, the first husband? >> the way our country is right -- ms. fiorina: i think we have to do three example once -- three things at once and they are related. we have to get the economy going again and we have to lead the world again. i cannot prioritize. they are urgent and have to be done. >> can i have a picture? ms. fiorina: of course. >> thank you. ms. fiorina: you are welcome. thank you.

ok. thank you. that is what it takes, a big team effort. >> thank you so much. >> i am from texas. i love your boots. they are beautiful, gorgeous. i wore my big girl shoes. [laughter] ms. fiorina: who has got your camera? >> it is my camera right here. they were so jealous that i was going to get to be here today to meet you. you are a big hit in texas.

ms. fiorina: i spend every summer in texas at my grandmother's. she lived in calvert. you know where calvert is. >> i sure do. i am from that part of the state. you have a lot of support down there. ms. fiorina: lovely to meet you. thanks for being here. senator, how are you? thank you so much for doing this. my gosh. that i amwant to say aghast at the way you have been treated by a certain jackass this week. ms. fiorina: well, you do not need to apologize for him. >> i feel terrible about it. ms. fiorina: honestly, i have met men like him all the time. >> stay tough. ms. fiorina: i will.

don't you worry. anyway, thank you so much. >> we are looking forward to your remarks. ms. fiorina: thank you. means old. icon means ano, large, important, influential figure, which you certainly have been. >> he served two terms. servedrina: well, you for a time and then you went home. >> he understood what washington was about the -- was about. people tell me all the time, i want to run for congress. i say, my advice is, do something else. do anything else. you are a good example. thank you.

is probablyrina most well-known for her time as the ceo of two attack -- hewlett-packard. a was the first female ceo of fortune 500 company and let the company through the economic recession, when a lot of them went bankrupt. during her ceo, revenues doubled, innovation tripled, and growth more than quadrupled. that is a good record in my mind. being an accountant, i like those numbers. it is no surprise that fortune magazine named her the most powerful woman in business in 1998 and she remains first place on that list for six years. so congrats. hewlett-packard, she was recruited by the cia director to serve as chairman of the cia external advisory board.

i find it rather interesting, as chair, she worked closely with cia top brass to bring more transparency and accountability to the intelligence agency. we could certainly use a lot more of that there these days. in 2008, she joined condoleezza rice to found the one-woman initiative. the organization was later merged with opportunity international, where she served as the chair. over the past 15 years, opportunity international has created 10 million jobs through 6 billion loans, most of which have been about $150. she also became chairman of good 360 in 2012. before i bring her up, i would like to introduce betty lamontagne, who wanted to share a few words about carly and then we will bring carly of u. --p. -- up.

>> thank you for that terrific description of her resume. you can hear all of those accomplishments. i would like to thank the humphreys for posting this. they are icons in this state. they have done so much for conservative politics. thank you very much again. this is the first time i have been able to be at an event with carly and i am delighted. before she announced, i wanted her to run. i encouraged her to run. she has been a terrific spokesman for the conservative movement, for women, and she is a different kind of candidate. she comes from business, but she understands how politics works. i tell everyone she is the outsider that can get things done inside. by only a few political candidates.

carly is one of them. i am thrilled to be here with her. i cannot wait for you to hear from her. she is unflappable and she will be terrific in the next debate. please give her a warm welcome while i invite her up here with you. [applause] ms. fiorina: thank you so much, that he. -- betty. thank you kathy. patty for gordon and opening up your beautiful home. and thank you all for being here. it has been quite a week, hasn't it? no, i am not talking about my face, actually. but i am looking forward to that debate next week. [applause] whenever i come to a setting like this, whenever i come back

to new hampshire -- i was here over labor day weekend and here again on such a beautiful early fall afternoon, at a beautiful home -- whenever i come to new hampshire, i am reminded of what america is all about. i say that not to pander to you. i say that because this is a place, you are people who take government"itizen seriously. it means, as citizens, you have to participate in politics in a serious way and participate as well in government and governance in a serious way. i think that is inspiring. sometimes i must tell you it can be a little frustrating. all of you have said, i got to see you three times at least before i make up my mind. well, you are in my top five,

top three. that is good. i know a lot of you are supporters. some of you may not have yet made up your mind. in your heart of hearts, wherever you are, you all know you want to see me debate hillary clinton. [applause] i am running for the presidency of the united states because i think our nation has reached a pivotal point and i think the american people know it. if you look at recent polling data, what you would find is that 75%, 75% of the american people now think that our federal government is corrupt. gallup has been asking that question for two decades and that is the highest number they have ever seen. now think we have a professional political class that is so concerned over the

protection of its power, position, and privileged, that they are not getting to people. i agree with them. i am keenly aware, having traveled and lived and worked all over the world, i am keenly aware that it is only in the united states of america that a young woman can start out typing, filing, and answering the phones for a nine-personal real estate firm in the middle of a deeper session -- a deep recession and go on to become the chief executive of what we turned into the largest technology company in the world and run for the presidency of the united states. that is only possible in this nation. [applause] ourit is possible because founders knew something that my mother taught me many years ago and that i have learned over and over throughout my life. my mother taught me, when i was about eight years old, what you are is god's gift to you.

what you make of yourself is your gift to god. i have learned over and over that everyone has god-given gifts. everyone has potential. usually far more than they realize. it is worth asking, why have more things been more possible for more people here than anywhere else on the land -- on the planet? it is because our founders knew what my mother taught me. they knew that everyone has potential and so they built a nation on a visionary idea and the idea was this -- that here, in this nation, you have a right. a right to find and use your god-given gifts to fulfill your potential. they spoke about that in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. part -- theadical radical part of that idea was and itht comes from god cannot be taken away by man or government.

ladies and gentlemen, i believe we have come to a pivotal point in our nations history with the potential of too many americans, the potential of this nation is being crushed by the way, the power, the cost, the complexity, the ineptitude, and the corruption of a federal government and political class that is either unwilling or unable to do anything about it. [applause] whatever your issue, whatever your cause, whatever festering problem you hoped would be now, theby professional political class has failed us. ask yourself, what is the issue that you care most about western mark is it debt -- you care most about? the deficit has been getting bigger every year. now thousands of pages long.

how many times do you hear candidates talking about a great idea for tax reform. how often have we been hearing there is bipartisan appetite for tax reform and yet it never happens. 73,000 pages long. the regulatory thicket becomes more and more impenetrable. we talk about reforming education, whether it is no child left , common core, they have all turned into big, your credit programs out of washington, d.c. the quality of our education continues to deteriorate. do you care about veterans? i certainly do. remember 18 months ago, when the scandal at the arizona v.a. burst and we learned that veterans had died waiting for appointments? americans were so outraged they put pressure on the political system and politicians passed a bipartisan bill that said you could fire 400 senior executives at the v.a. for failing to do

heir jobs. guess what? here we are, 18 months later, two people have been fired. we just learned last month that 300-7000 veterans -- 300-7000 307,000 veterans have died waiting for health care. it is an ineptitude that no longer serves the people who pay for it or this nation. [applause] i know a lot of us worked really hard to restore historic republican authorities to the house, to return a majority to the u.s. senate. still, there is no bill that protects an unborn child. that bill. planned parenthood remains funded.

it reminds me of the difference between managers and leaders. managers are people who do the best they can within the status quo. managers are people who operate within the system. managers are people who tinker around the edges of a problem. they do what they got to do to get through the next day, but they do not ever really solve the problem and they do not ever really challenge the status of. we have a lot of managers and business and a lot of managers in life and a lot of managers and politics. leaders do not accept what has been broken just because it has been that way for a long time. how do you go from secretary to ceo? i will tell you. you challenge the status quo every day, solve problems, produce results, can you leave the -- you lead. it reminds me of something one of my great heroes, margaret thatcher, said. she addressed her countrymen and women at a pivotal in that nation's history and she said, "i am not content to manage the

decline of a great nation." ladies and gentlemen, neither am i. i am prepared to lead the resurgence of a great nation. what a leader, this leader will do in the oval office. we must get this economy going again. that means we must recognize that crony capitalism is alive and well in washington, d.c., and it has gotten worse under publicans and democrats alike. when you have a 73,000 page tax code, and impenetrable regulatory thicket, law after law being passed, dodd frank, what happens? we see it in the data. the big, the powerful, the wealthy, the well-connected get bigger, more powerful, wealthier , and better connected. only they can afford to hire the

accountants, the lawyers, the lobbyists to figure out how to make it work for them. of a $90ief executive billion firm, if i did not like something, i could go higher an accountant, a lawyer, and a lobbyist. the real estate firm i started out in, they cannot. guess what is happening? that the small are getting crushed. what is the consequence of. odd-frank? it did not fix anything. wall street banks have become even bigger wall street banks, better connected. thousands of community banks are going out of business. to get the economy going again, we have to recognize where economic growth and job creation come from. it is a nine-personal real estate firm, the family-old auto body shop that my husband started. it is the small business, the new business. those businesses create two

thirds of the new jobs. they employ half the people and we are crushing them. that is not hyperbole. for the first time in u.s. history, we are destroying new businesses. we are tangling people's lives up in webs of dependence. we encourage people to settle in. we ignore their god-given gifts. we have to cut this government down to size and hold it accountable. that means we have got to know where our money is being spent. there have to be consequences for nonperformance. veterans die waiting for health care, heads better roll in washington, d.c.. we have 256,000 baby boomers

getting ready to retire from the federal government over the next 4-5 years. president fiorina will not replace a single one. n last but certainly not least. we must restore american leadership in the world. it is a dangerous and tragic waste when america is not on day one, i will make two phone calls. ministery to the prime of israel that the united states of america will always stand with the state of israel. the second phone call will be to the supreme leader of iran. he might not take my phone call. he will get the message. and the message is this -- no deal. i do not care what deal you sign

with is that obama and john kerry. no deal. until or unless you open every nuclear facility, every facility anytime, anywhere, inspection by our people, not yours. we will make it as difficult as possible for you to move money around the global financial system. we can do it. we do not need permission or collaboration to do it. and i will do it because we must cut off the money flow. with those phone calls, a message will go around the world loud and clear. the united states of america is back in the leadership business. four more years of

biden.y clinton, we know what four more years will mean. o win this job, is going to require a nomnee who is a promise fighter and i you that i will wage this fight every single day. hat is what it is, it is a fight for the future of this nation. to throw a e afraid punch. i will not falter. need somebody who can do this job. asking for your vote and your support because i'm the best qualified candidate to win this job and do this job so think, for a moment, what it job. to do this the president of the united takes a n 2017, it president who understands how works and how you create jobs. ou must understand how the

world works and know who is in it. know more leaders, with the possible exception with hillary clinton. did business and charity and policy work. she needs to understand bureaucracies, how to cut them down to size and hold them ccountable because this bureaucracy in washington, d.c., no longer serves the people who pay for it. she must understand technology, powerful tool. you do not like the server with towel, ms. clinton and they didn't prevent the chinese from hacking into the server. president of the united states who understand what leadership is. about hip is not position. it is not about title. is not about how big your is, ce is, your helicopter

your ego. about service. [applause] the highest calling of unlock hip is to potential in others and now we house leader in the white who knows their highest calling of o unlock the potential this great nation. much, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] hank you so much. [applause] questions? sir? >> you're on the mic, that's dangerous. . [laughter] i'm kidding. >> good afternoon.

it's our pleasure that you joined us here, today. blessing. couple years ago, i was at a gathering similar to this and the speaker was pam brawnedy. he was running for office in florida. and my comment there was that speak, my eard her favorite female public official sarah palin and after i day, i said, s there's a new first place position. carly,earing you, today, hose two are now tied for . [laughter] [applause] . >> well, thank you very much, jim. i e's the big question, am number one out of . [laughter] [applause] oh, 16, you're right. yes, ma'am?

>> just in terms of our national debt, i read that you were saying if you allocated 10% of taxes, it would cut down so much billion a year. is that something you're really planning on doing or what, specifically, were you planning on doing to fix it? that quote.ecognize things thatople say aren't true, shocking in politics. there's only one way to reduce deficits. reduce spending, grow the economy. economy grows cuts down on expenses. the right pending in way, we help grow the economy. 73,000-page ut the

tax code. plansill hear a lot of tax from a lot of politicians. issues, bout the same social security reform, never happens. reforms, nevertax happens. we talk about immigration and border's been the insecure? 25 years. san francisco's been a sanction city? all the pages, all the complexity, i think it needs to be about three. why 3? because if the tax code is three pages, anyone can understand it. you don't need an accountant to tell you how to fill out your tax returns. comrehencebility is -- comp rehencebility is important. you know that in your bones. when something is so

complicated, you need all these people to figure it out and that's what happened. a 73,000-page tax code is big business and big interest groups and wealthy, well-connected people. a three-page tax code levels the playing field. also, to your point of debt and deficit. whole lot less people at the irs. peopled a whole lot less at the irs. [applause] if you decide -- if you actually decide to look at the facts and say, wow, the department of education has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger every year for 40 years. of educatn nt takes more and more money and guess what's happening at the same time? the quality of education continues to deteriorate. money spent in washington on education has nothing to do with the quality of education.

it might be an inverse relationship so let's quit spending money in washington and focus on the things we know are mportant to a child's education, a good teacher in the form of a classroom and the a lity of a parent to have choice, a real choice so their chance.ve a [applause] that not only helps us prepare causes us en, but it o spend less in washington, d.c. and, to actually cut down got ize of government, we to quit talking about revenue reform.tax we need revenue reducing tax reform. way you hold bureaucracy accountable is how money is spent. congress getsear, a report from a retiring senator

named tom. your senator knows him well. delivers a report to congress, it lands like a thud outlines tens and undreds of billion dollars of fraud, waist, abuse and orruption and guess what happens? why a . nothing. this is professional politician cannot serve in the oval office because to do something with that requires someone with the ourage and the experience to challenge the status quo so we we what to do, it's just never seem to get todone. together, we will get it done. [applause] really admire you. colorado.in my question is this, when you get into the oval office,

because of the last eight years, you are going to be faced with a number of very nasty surprises and so your focus is going to be, obviously, on those crises. to manage the ng long-term festering problems, like the budget and the regulations when you are faced problem?. kind of crises.there are a n is a crisis, isis is crisis. which is why, in the first hold a camp david alleys who our arab are fighting on the ground and th