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david: here we go, folks. thanks for coming. i'm david cook from the christian science monitor. our guest today is interior secretary sally jewell. this is her first visit with the group, although we have met with a number of her predecessors. we appreciate her making time in her schedule for this. our guest was born in london, grew up in washington state, and earned a degree in mechanical engineering from the university of washington. right after graduation, she and her husband, a fellow engineer, started their career in the oil and gas fields, then moved to commercial banking, where she worked for 19 years. of rei,ed the board became chief operating officer in 2000, and named ceo in 2005.

ring her tenure at the company, rei tripled in size. she was sworn in as the 51st interior secretary in april 2013, and thus ended the biographical portion of the program. now onto breakfast mechanics. as always, we are on the record here. please, no live blogging or tweeting. in short, no filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway and it is time to listen what be bright -- the guest has to say. curb thatu relentless self the urge, we will e-mail pictures as soon as the breakfast ends. as regular attendees know, if you like to ask a question, please do the traditional thing and send me a subtle nonthreatening single and i will happily call on one and all in the time we have available. we will start off by having our guest makes an opening comments and go to questions from around the table. with that, thanks for joining us. sec. jewell: it is great to be

here and it is nice to see some familiar faces and meet unfamiliar faces. i'm going to keep my remarks very informal and hopefully sort, so you get to want -- what you want to talk about it today is september 15, slightly more than two weeks away from the end of the fiscal year. september 30th 2015 has meaning for the department of interior and the whole government in a number of different capacities. let me walk through wife september 2015 is important to us and should be important to you. inherited a number of pending lawsuits around the endangered species act when the obama administration took office

. a number of species have been petitioned for listing under the endangered species act, an essential leave little work had been done on those. my predecessors entered into a settlement, which put a date certain on when the official online service would determine whether a listing decision was wanted. a number of those have deadlines that have been coming up over the course of time. one of the major ones that is coming up on september 30 is for the greater states grout. we are 15e reason days away from a very important and ione in our history will talk a little bit about that to begin with. i want to pause and say and other species that was a candidate for listing was the new england cottontail rabbit. just at the end of last week, i was in new england -- new hampshire to be specific. senatornce alongside

jeanne shaheen that the fisheries and wildlife service determined that a listing of that species was not warranted the cousin collaboration of all the new england states. it is endangered on some state registers and they have been working collectively for a number of years to reclaim habitat that was critical for that critter. on the landok place ambroise.d donna he is in the construction business, but they've got 57 acres. he said that he knew nothing about the new england cottontail, but he learned about habitats which are sections of force. that means forests were canned peas have opened up here tall trees, but shorter trees -- crabapples, fruit trees, and ground brush. that is the kind of habitat the rabbits need to thrive. i spoke with him and we were on

his property for this event. another land owner, a banker who retired to 100 acres and did nothing about habitat, clear-cut said he wasn't otherwise inclined to do and planted some successional growth forest and those actions have saved this particular species -- then we can cottontail -- from the station. likeew england cottontail, the greater states grout, is a species that is an indicator of the ecosystem. what rick ambrose told me was that he has never seen so many birds and other critters on his property before in the time that he has lived there since 1990. the preview of collaboration happening across western states, 60 million acres of state grout habitat on public land alone. i think it is about 165 million

acres of the sagebrush ecosystem that has been winnowed away and threatened by a variety of different sources over the course of many decades. , 15n or before september 30 days away, the official wildlife service will make a determination whether the greater state grout should be listed under the endangered species act or whether a listing is not wanted. should say the effort that has happened across the 11 western states, seven core states in particular, the efforts on parts of states, the national conservation service, private , nonprofit organizations, energy companies, developers, transmission companies, grazers, ranchers, cattlemen, has been incredible. i will remain optimistic and hopeful that we can have a somewhere outcome, but we are all waiting for the official wildlife service to make their determination that will happen for the end of this month. second, i want to talk about good legislation.

legislation that has lasted the test of time and that is the brilliant piece of legislation called the land and water conservation fund that was put in place a visionary congress, almost unanimously, the 80th congress back in 1964. it said that as we open up the outer continental shelf waters that are owned by all americans, let us take a small amount of the revenue from leasing for oil and gas, up to $900 million a year come in no escalator, and let us use that and it broad sense to offset the impact by investing it in public lands and waters on shore. invested in has states and public lands across every single state in nearly every single county, something like 99% of the counties if not yet up to 100%. ,2,000 different projects

things that people care about in every community across the country, and i've been to many of them, including a community with senator shaheen in new hampshire, which is doing a connector on a greenway project. haveplace like that, they little greenway connectors and small pocket parks. the have the national wildlife refuge and the white mountains national forest. all these are beneficiaries of these programs. 15 days andexpires if congress does not act. want to acknowledge that the senate energy natural resources committee under the leadership of senators rakowski and at a the revision to an energy bill that has not yet had action on the senate floor. i appreciate that you're the president's budget called for full mandatory funding at $900 million fo.

it was a much higher production of offshore oil and gas revenues than today, but the number has not gone up. congress has only appropriated less than half of that $900 million a year. that is the second reason why we are 15 days away from a very important decision and we are urging congress at every level. this is bipartisan. senator byrd from north carolina and i have been hiking together on the appalachian trail at a the trailoint where could have houses right up to the edge of it on a connector piece between an existing state rk and the appalachian trail. senator byrd made a very powerful statement on the land and water conservation fund and that was a while ago and there has been no action taken and that has been frustrating. we are also 15 days away from our budget running out.

very, very frustrated as a business person. now two years into this job, my first year was a sequestration implementation year. immediately following that was the government shutdown. i cannot tell you how ridiculous it is to try and run an organization with 70,000 people who are very, very committed to , which are of great importance to the american people, to have to work with them on shutdown planning right now because congress has not acted on a budget. very, very frustrating. obviously we are hopeful that a shutdown will not happen and i think that would be consistent with how pretty much everybody on capitol hill is feeling. but it is very frustrating to not have any certainty at all about whether the programs that you have in place will continue and whether the people that you have who are dedicated to this work at every level will be able to do the investments that they

know are necessary to fulfill the mission that the american people have given them. so that is another reason it is frustrating. david: i'm going to play timekeeper. and i over? m i said i was in the keep it short. fewd: let me pick up on a we will do one or two and move around table. let me ask about the national parks. i was at an event where heard the national parks service director talk about some staggering figure. if i want an old man, i would remember the figure for your backlog of national parks. millions ofre were visits. for fans of the parks, how bad is the backlog? sec. jewell: the backlog is back. we estimate the backlog to be in excess of $11 billion. about half of them is in road

infrastructure. the highway bill and the ability to fund our roads, oftentimes which comes from the chest rotation package, is very important to the backlog of the national parks. the other half is in the infrastructure, the historic , the facilities people rely on. as we approach the centennial, we will have more visitation from around the world. tourismwe want to drive both internal to the u.s. and around the world. i had that conversation with kindtor jarvis about the of experience people are going to have because we have not made or investments in the people the facilities needed to really put our best foot forward. david: one last one for me -- i want to ask about fires. your department rather once the fire center. can you give us an update on learned from the fires currently raging in california and others this year? how does it affect your department's budget?

i know you talked about money to ask congress to change how they fund firefighting. what can you tell us on the fire situation? sec. jewell: it is very obvious right now to everybody watching the news that fire is caprices. you have really bad fire years, which we are having right now. we are having fire years that benign.more you cannot put in place a budget that effectively anticipates what kind of year it is going to be. there has been what the just talk. the has actually been bills on the floor to do this, the president's budget every year that i have been here has had a fire fix and it and it is relatively simple. it says that lets budget for what we are pretty sure year in and year out is going to be a level of fire suppression. and we calculate that by looking at our historical records and saying that 1% of the most

catastrophic fires absorb about 30% of the budget. let us take that 1% and call them the disasters that they are. what you see happening in california, in home state of washington, and i was just there on the fire line on the colville indian reservation, which is of itsa massive amount future income in timber that has gone up in smoke. let us take that 1% of catastrophic wildfires and call them the disasters they are and put them under these disaster cap, which is where hurricanes are funded and earthquakes are funded and tornadoes are funded. that is the disaster fund that has been authorized for the country goes where we have a catastrophe. of the makingphe of hurricane sandy, which had its on the appropriation of $60 billion, but of the year in and year out kind of unpredictable

disasters that have unlike wildfires. in theat 1% out, budget regular budget for 70% of our 10 year average of suppression, and gear in year out, some years it will be fine. but bad news like this, we will go to the disaster cap as opposed to what we are doing now and this year in specific, which is going to the budget to reduce the risk of fire. going to the budget to rehabilitation, which we will have this year, rain events, flooding damage of infrastructure. like our water systems and like our dams and like our roads, which will happen if we are not stabilizing our hillsides and that topsoil is allowed to run downhill. so right now we are taking money out of fire suppression -- excuse me, out of fire money out ofaking burned area rehabilitation, taking money out of the kinds of programs that enable us to ask needs, to replant native

habitats, to go into suppression. i will say that while the department of the interior is a major player in this, before service is a bigger player. 52% of theyear are entire budget of the u.s. forest service. this is the first year ever they have gone over the 50% mark. they are dipping heavily into the fire prevention council this year as we speak. taking collectively, it is crazy the way that we fund this. , senator crapo, cumbersome and simpson, congress man schrader have identical bills for this and we have to have action and conga spirit if the images in the news are not enough to inspire action, i do not know what is. david: we going to go to brian berg, david ofy

on of its, and great court. >> thanks for having me. to rally aboutg public lands. a lot of that happens under your agency. there is more on atlantic coast drilling and pointing out this is in conflict with the administration statements on climate change. where would you say the administration is in terms of balancing the climate concerns and these developments of public lands and had you see that sitting on your your tenure as interior secretary? sec. jewell: i will say this -- we are nation that continues to be dependent on fossil fuels. president and his climate action plan has said very clearly that we need to move to a lower carbon future and i am very proud to work for president that has been as direct

snforceable in his message a as president obama. in june of speech 2015 was a very clear call to action for all the agencies to do the things that are within our power without congress acting -- because congress has not acted as you know -- to reduce our carbon footprint in this country. we are well on a way to doing that with some pretty dramatic goals that have -- we continue to raise the bar. that is an issue of reducing demand and providing other sources of energy to continue to power our economy. but right now, we are sitting under lights that are most likely powered by coal in the east. i cannot imagine -- maybe some of you walked here, but some of fuels ned fossil one way or another to get here. many jobs around the country are

dependent and you cannot just cut it off overnight in an economy that is in fact the leader of the world. i take my job very seriously, which is thoughtful development, safe and responsible development lands, thoughtful regulations that need to be updated, in some cases from some that are 30 and 40 years old, but i think it is oversimplifying a very complex situation to suggest that one could simply cut off leasing or drilling on public lands and solve the issue of climate change. we all have a responsibility to act and there are things that we are doing and will continue to do to reduce the carbon footprint and put incentives in place for all of us to do a better job on how we use carbon than we have in the past. >> from bloomberg. one of the things we have talked about our coal leasing programs.

termsre you thinking in of what interior can do to take climate into effect in doing beasley things? visit reducing the overall amount, is it reducing fees? what is your thinking? sec. jewell: there are multiple issues in play with regard to coal in this country. we had our own inspector general report and one from the government accountability office that suggested the taxpayers were not getting a fair return on the call that was being publicd from federal lands. we have an evaluation underway right now with the office of natural resources revenue to take a look at that. for example, to make sure that there are -- royalties are being arm's-length transactions rather than non-arm's-length transactions. that is one step. there are many communities dependent on coal and there are

-- like this one for example in terms of power generation. there are also impacts in the impact of mining, the impact obviously on carbon as it is burned that we believe need to and understood. so the listing sessions, which we have had around the country, get at just that. it is bringing stakeholders to the table. many of the listing sessions we have held have been in coal country, where people's jobs are affected, but people's environments have also been impacted by coal mining. we have heard in each of these sessions a variety of different opinions of where people are coming from. i think it is important that we listen. we know that coal is a significant carbon emitter within this country. the new power plant rules that have been propagated by the epa are an effort to work with states to reduce those carbon

emissions. i think you need to pull up and make sure that across the landscape how carbon is accounted for is fair and thoughtfully treated and that is what these listening sessions are all about. david: men well from green wire. >> some people during the sess ing suggestion -- ions suggested charging for the the cost of climate from leasing and money. is that foreseen by the interior department at this point? sec. jewell: we are in listening mode at this point. have heard from people in coal country are getting hit hard by the power plant rules. if we are hitting at the mine site itself for the sale of coal , when does the stop and what is reasonable? i think you need to take all the things into account. frankly, the administration is doing the best we can to put the

kinds of incentives in place for , more thoughtful use of carbon and reduced use of carbon. we really need congress to take some action and i think that there has been talk about a cost on carbon. that is not something the administration can do. that is something the congress would be to take up, but i've spoken with a number of energy companies that do not think that's a bad idea either. right now, we are working with , but it we are dealt would be helpful to have a partnership with congress on getting to a reasonable point that people agree will drive the right kinds of incentives and behaviors to reduce the carbon pollution we are experiencing right now. david: jennifer lee from hearst. >> the senate energy committee just passed legislation that would give the interior secretary to stand arctic visits by up to 10 years.

i wonder what you think of that ita and more generally, when comes to ultradeep water or arctic drilling where the technology or extracting oil safely may not be available today, doesn't syria have the discretion and authority it needs to extend leases? -- doesn't. have discretion and authority it needs to extend leases? sec. jewell: i cannot comment specifically on that. we do have the ability to extend leases. we have the ability to choose not to lease. , thoughtfulss five-year planning process underway right now for the period where we have a drop on the table and we take input and make decisions based on the input on what the final plan will be. that will say which areas could get least and which areas will be off the table for those five years.

the length of those leases is something that we have the ability to adjust. requests made to make the leases longer in a place like the arctic because the drilling season is much shorter. in the gulf of mexico, you control your round. clearly that is not the case in the arctic. our job really is to make sure that whatever is done is done with abundant safety precautions, where people can be reassured that the environment is protected and the impact of those activities are largely mitigated. paying close attention to what happens in the senate energy committee. we will be paying close attention to the input we receive on the proposed plan, the five-year plan, and working on what and a perfect close of action is in the future. >> thank you very much. you hadffshore leasing,

a recent sale in the gulf of mexico that has relatively limited interest. -- are low oil prices dampening the call from the offshore industry from additional leasing for more offshore production? sec. jewell: given the results of our most recent sale in the western gulf of mexico, that is a reasonable conclusion to draw. -- oile lowe's companies companies that have experienced significant drops in their revenues. as a business person and a person who used to be in the industry, you obvious to look at how much money you have available and where to spend your resources and when the aney you have available drops substantial amount coming to pick year on where you make those investments. i suspect that is exactly what happened in the western gulf and i expect that will influence some of the seatbacks -- feedbacks we receive on the areas where people are interested in pursuing in this

drafted five-year plan versus not interested in pursuing. your expectation in the unwarranted and if that happens, do you think you could win congressional support? is there anything new on cecil lion? [laughter] sec. jewell: ok. the decision rests with fish and wildlife services. arm's lane inat terms of that decision. there have been all kinds of

riders on various bills that critters.creditors -- what has happened in this collaborative work is the way the endangered species act should work. it is about habitat and if we work together and collaborate, we can find common ground that will protect these landscapes for the things that the residents, the hunters and the energy,n enjoy, and transmission lines, mines are impactful. i do believe there will be support for the blm to do its if we are able to get a

budget out of congress. the discussions that took place in the house and senate generally shown support for the kinds of requests we had related anthe later -- there is understanding that a relatively limited budget, we have to do the job that people expect us to do. one of the key things, it is an invasive species from asia. it will take off after a fire and repopulate otherwise mature sagebrush landscape. to replace it requires a lot of work. native seeds and efforts on planting. these are things western states,

elected officials want to see happen. i believe we will have the support in our budget if we get the budget passed. lion,regards to cecil the it is a very complicated issue. in that case, the country, zimbabwe, is not a place where the fish and wildlife service has approved of the importation of trophies from -- i do not know specifically about lions. it is not a country that demonstrated the funding a hunter might use to invest in a hunt will go to conservation. they are just two countries that will allow importation of

trophies because they have a demonstrated track record in investing in conservation. the incident around the famous lion helps raise everybody's awareness about the challenge of species, wildlife trafficking. that is been our primary area of focus. how do we reduce the illegal trade of poached species, specifically african elephants, rhinos. that is where we focus our attention. there is a silver lining to the situation with the lion. it has given us a platform. >> good morning.

therewas a letter begging is no national monuments named in the state of utah. will the president act if it doesn't happen? 15 days away from a shutdown. is there any agreement with the open?to keep parks there were states that acted to help keep them open. sec. jewell: ok. is a very comprehensive effort going on with a couple of congressman in utah. jason chaffetz, a lot of spectacular landscapes exists.

we have a lot of people that are interested in some of those landscapes being preserved. i have heard from a number of tribal communities who don't often times agree and are united that there are lands in southern utah that want protection. they are lands that working to protect in some ways. i have not seen the initiative in any detail. i appreciate the fact that they were closely with local communities and with tribal communities. part is an effort on their to push this through. that is what we're working on with them. thereot going to suggest

is any kind of firm plan. we need to react to that and with up forward to seeing it at their earliest convenience. a lot of work has been done on that. azing are some am cultural resources that do not have any rejection. government is a shutdown -- sec. jewell: we hope there is no government shutdown. that is the basis on which we are operating. we are getting pretty good at that. i have not put in place anything if there is. two years ago i did work with a number of governors who recognize that national parks were critical to their economies and the economies of a number of

their communities. we had 15 weddings on the national mall that had to be canceled. a bride who spent $20,000 on a wedding that had to be canceled. these are the visible things that governors get called about. what they do not see is the hidden catastrophe in terms of losing a years worth of scientific data, because there is a three-week-long gap. they lose the ability to make sure our satellite data is well interpreted for things that people rely on. there are many things that aren't as visible that are impacted by a shutdown. it is important that congress not go down that path again.

if they do, the national parks will be visible. they need to pay attention and i hope we do not get there again. about efforts to address climate change. rule. to come up with a will the president be pursuing climate talks in paris? will have a rule by december? sec. jewell: we will not have a final rule by december. we are working hard on releasing rules on methane. yet?body draft rule out pardon me? the process of rulemaking is

cumbersome, and probably should be. you do not want this without input or thought. our team is finalizing a rule. it will be reviewed. there will be a public comment period. after that closes, we can do a final rule. not between now and the paris talks. to vent natural gas into the atmosphere when it is a fuel that can produce electricity at a much lower carbon footprint than other sources like coal. it is economical for some cases burning itural gas, at the well head because there

target is oil. that is not ok. there will be emergency situations where you have to flare it. there is no reason we shouldn't we looking at capturing the valuable public resource and using it in a more constructive way then blowing it up in the atmosphere are burning it. the epa is also addressing the performance standards for new well activities. we are working on those. we continue to be transported. you.ank you mentioned a couple of anniversaries this year and wonders this week. thateeks ago you order

mount mckinley be renamed denali. there is a number of other controversies out there. what is in south dakota. it was named for a brutal general who slaughtered a lot of women and children. uaw-this or negro-that. there was a blanket renaming of any feature name for another n-w ord epithet. under what circumstances would you order other features to be renamed? sec. jewell: i didn't realize that i have the ability in the case of denali to make that

change. as a climber, i have always called the mountain denali, as most people do from that region. the alaska state legislature under j hammond past legislation requesting the board of geographic names changed the name of mount mckinley to denali. the park service change the name with the support of congress, i think, to denali park and preserve. there was legislation filed to continue the name mount mckinley. the board of geographic names has a revision that says if a if there is the just

thing legislation, they will not pass until a reasonable period of time passes at which time he secretary of interior may act. every year the ohio delegation has put legislation out there. it is just out there. i have the ability to act after a reasonable amount of time. i am not aware of any other circumstances like the nalley -- denali. as was theroposal case in the mckinley-the nalley situation -- denali situation that would trigger the secretary of state stepping up. i think the board of geographic

names would welcome in from elected officials and what they believe sites in their state should be named. in the examples you referenced, none have been brought to my attention as those that would trigger a secretarial action or under consideration. i have not met with the board of geographic names. denali was a very obvious case. irrigation drainage issue, very controversial. critics called a sweetheart deal. have you been involved with this case? how do you respond to those who say it is a sweetheart deal? sec. jewell: deputy secretary mike connor is a water rights

expert. he knows the situation in california inside and out. i defer to him. inhave a water catastrophe california. this morning's "washington post," they've talked about the drought, which is consistent with the kind of data we have been looking at. difficulte a lot of circumstances between agricultural users, water contractors, and those who want to see appropriate -- for environmental health, whether it is the delta or rivers of the sound. i am not familiar with that situation. mike connor is more familiar

with that specific. we are being very thoughtful to strike a reasonable pathway recognizing water rights are the purview of the states. provider ands a seller of water and working closely with the states and a reasonable path forward. amy: hi. a judge in wyoming is going to rule on whether she is going to rule.ghe flaking sec. jewell: let me start with the last question. hasjudge in wyoming basically stayed the rule. i believe we have provide the

information required and the judge is assessing that. rule.e stayed our a legal action is pending. old.ules are over 30 years i started my career in oil and gas. i understand the process. the rules in place are the rules in place when i was in petroleum engineering. i am 59 years old. has changedlot since then. you have directional drilling, which we didn't have to any significant degree. you can go vertically and then go horizontally for two miles. you have got far more fluid than

was ever used back in the days the rules were created. you have got a different mix of chemicals that are used in the process. fracking modernize our regulations. you have seen a lot of controversy around fracking. what communities expect of their whatevers is that practices are being done in their communities, in their states is something that is not going to damage their health or environment. that is what the american people expect. ultimately i am confident that our rules, which are based on science, which take into account where the industry has gone, will be put into place.

whether it is in the same form. one challenge in wyoming might have a different challenge in another state. we have provisions to take into account state rules that are more stringent than ours. the rules for fracking our baseline minimum. if a state has more stringent rules, they will apply. operators will have one set of rules have to abide by. that will be true in wyoming. so, we hope to work with states in a constructive way that reassures their citizens that these activities are safe and recognizes that 40-year-old rules with modern practices does not make sense. we hope that will be heard thoughtfully by the judge.

follownted to a quick about fracking. an investigation saying it was so overwhelmed by beenracking that it has unable to keep with the inspections with some of the highest priority wells. those wells have not been inspected. sec. jewell: we have a government accountability office thea report that criticizes the highot inspecting risk wells. we are under resource. when you look at what happened to the blm budget, you will see

we do not have the resources necessary to do the job. i have asked for something very basic, which is let's match supply and demand. back toarge a fee industry. m, then those a boo fees common to support the necessary and to inspect those wells. let's match those two things together. that has not gotten past the committee in congress. we have an appropriate budget, which has been declining. interests.ramp up of

ofhave a major backlog inspections that people expect us to do that we're not able to do. that is a quick snapshot. it makes no sense to not match supply and demand have industry cover the cost of inspecting these wells and the cost to process in a timely period of time and to make automating the process, require less work. to reconcile, sometimes it goes back and forth and industry and so on. is that the goal? [laughter] sec. jewell: welcome to my world.

i have a complicated job. most of the decisions that are required of my position will make some people happy and some people very unhappy. there are a few instances where that is not the case. i hope people love the national parks. not so much as they have chosen to fund them. that is not the way i look at it at all. we have expectations that it can put on his that gives us a mandate to develop resources thoughtfully and protect natural resources. sometimes it is within one agency or between agencies. the job is to understand the species that call the united

states home and create an environment where those species are not at risk of going extinct. they do not want to use the endangered species act. they would rather a species not warrant listing. in the case of the greater sagebrush, the blm has worked closely and part of the plan that is been put out there is asking that i with draw 9 million acres of land from mineral extraction, notably mining. there will be people that are unhappy with that and want to mine everywhere. how do we maintain these

ecosystems and allowing the thoughtful development of our natural resources. we are all carrying smartphones of some sort. there is a lot of metal that comes from mining activities. that is the way we look at it. save and responsible development -- fsafe and responsible development. blm.ore thing on the many people interpret that as ever use on every part of land. multiple use may mean that this land is more appropriate for conservation use. you see that with some of the monument designations and the wilderness study areas.

it is a conflict. "the hil tleman from l." >> keeping a close eye on the shelf arctic drilling. how has that been going for the last month and a half or so far two months. been thell: it has agency charged with safe and responsible development. 7 ands been on-site 24 by holding shall to the highest-- shell to the highest standards put in place. it is making sure if there is an incident that we address the incident before the ice moves in. that has been going as planned.

shell had a problem when one of its vessels ran aground. it was one of the requirements that have to be in theater before they were allowed to go into the hydrocarbon zone. planned.ed as there was a pretty epic storm. shell lost about five days. they are taking the right kinds of precautions to make sure things are done safely and our people are out there to validate those circumstances and if need be asked for additional action. i would say things are going well in terms of the relationship between them. we will continue to hold them to the highest possible standards.

that's what people expect us to do. david: we're out of time. thank you for doing this. sec. jewell: thank you, everybody. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> "washington journal" is next. the house will be in session. live house coverage here on c-span. the second republican presidential did they is tonight. we preview the debate with tom coburn. he will talk about his call to rein in the power of the government. gerry connolly gives an update on the syrian refugee situation. joins us to talk

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