gives us a chance to look at what the in-state is. we like to address the fiscal challenges of the country. we like to limit the federal government to the constitutional limited role. we like to put the regulatory regime back in its statutory box. security. rebuild lookgives us a chance to at what those goals are and how to unify so that we can achieve those goals. we heard from the speaker today about how he announced it to the republican congress. how did you react when he announced that he would resign at the end of october? he said that when he was first elected as speaker, his plan was to serve for four years. eric cantor lost the primary, and we had to change majority

leaders. he decided to stay on for another year. he was originally planning to stay through the end of this calendar year, and then he looked at the state of the conference and the fact that there was disunity and there would be another tough vote to reaffirm his speakership, which i think would have passed easily. why put everybody through that vote? he felt it was time to go ahead and get out of the way. the problembecome to us achieving those common goals. what did you think think when you first heard the announcement? this man made the most selfless decision you can expect any leader to make.

in the first hour and a half, you heard person after person come up to the microphone and give positive testimony about what he has done for the country and our conference. it gave us a rallying cry so that we can come back together and unify. i think that he really laid the stage for us to have that unification. david: when speaker boehner said that he had delayed his decision because eric cantor had lost, did you interpret that as a signal that kevin mccarthy is the next speaker? if not, who do you think? rep. flores: actually, no. speaker boehner kept his cards for close to his desk. he probably has an opinion, but he did not let us know in any way, shape, or form what the leadership should look like moving forward. he said in a press

conference later that kevin mccarthy would make an excellent speaker. you agree with that? rep. flores: he has been around long enough that he knows with the challenges are. he has the leadership potential to do that. i am personally not taking any positions. today.had several calls i will keep those to myself at this point. really, this has been a fairly, fairly dramatic day. we need to let the dust settle. i'm in a position as the chair of the republican state committee where it is not appropriate for me to come out publicly endorsing a candidate. some sort ofy have a forum so that any person running for a leadership 170+ion can come to the rnc members we have to make a

decision. susan: you've got about five weeks. when you think we will know about leadership elections and who is running? rep. flores: we are a have some feel for who is running. -- already have some feel for who is running. of thehe diligence press, i am sure you guys have some better idea than i do. we said that we would have do leadership elections sometime in october. i think it would be better to do them earlier than later. we put the calendar together, i would say let's announce next week that we will have leadership elections the second week of october. that, to me, would be the sweet spot. david: one of the great things

for us reporters, maybe not for you-- [laughter] is we interact with all the people we cover. you said it you thought speaker boehner had announced the decision to resign to save the house. what is the saving the house problem? think a lot of people have known for quite a while that we, even though we are in the majority, have not all been on the same page. like he hadelt become the focal point of the angst about the house. he thought he would step aside so that the house could reunify and move forward. to town hall meetings this summer. people expressed frustration in washington and with congress.

they expected frustration with her as members of the leadership teams. i tried to back them up a little bit and say, "let's walk through this." the house has passed over 340 bills that reduce the deficit and spend our money more wisely, that reduce the regulatory onslaughts that we have, that rebuild our military. those have all gone and died at the senate. the frustrated with where the problem lies, and that is the senate's inability to do the things we have done. we have been very productive. if you look at what has been tees, ther the commit house has done a heckuva job, much better than my first two terms in congress. becausere frustrated, congress is stopping the

problems americans feel they are doing every day. davidsusan: what is not going to change with the resignation of senate and is the the democratic president. we think is what that the gop conference can come together and put together stronger votes without a lot of the back chatter. it may give our senate's brothers and sisters a chance to fight more vigorously. there are several of us who have gotten frustrated that we have ate a rule in the sen to filibuster that is without constitutional basis. i'd say, any time you have an institutional role that is

getting in the way of the constitution and getting in the way of congress's ability to do its job, that rule needs to be segregated from the constitution. david: you have a democratic president. you don't have the votes in the house to override. what do you think would satisfy? you described your colleagues as trying to burn the house down. what or who would satisfy them? are trying to make a political point even though they know it can't succeed, what do you think would satisfy them? is thatres: my hope they feel like they have accomplish something today, although i don't think that they did. the speaker has made a selfless stop the disunity in the house.

my hope is that we can rejoin and work together. yes, we do have a problem with the president. he doesn't see the rules the same way we do. the american people don't get the chance to see that. what they see is that the president does this or one of the presidents agencies do this or takes some action, and you see congress appear to not do anything. this picture over here, the house has done a lot the defunding of activities or to change the law or to rein him in, but they don't see congress doing that. change,ilibuster rules the things that we do in the would pass to the senate, and it's of a congress that doesn't look like it's doing anything, you see a president that has to explain his actions to be making people.

why is he putting his cronies ahead of the american people? why is he putting the regulatory agencies ahead of the american people? why is he putting the environmental radicals ahead of interests of the working people? that's why we have this institutional role called a filibuster. he has to explain it. harry reid has been his firewall that has prevented him from explaining why he is taking certain positions. i go around the country and help rnc members, and those constituents say the same thing. they look a congress as not doing anything.

is, and half of it is not. i think down the 16 blocks the white house, the american people is.what the real problem it is a president that uses the rules differently than i do. my family has been hurt because my paycheck has not gone up seven or eight years. my health care costs are higher. all of problems they are facing. susan: can you talk about how congress might change spending legislation? it sounds like there is a temporary funding bill that the septemberough 30 expiration. you need a grand bargain with democrats. can you talk about that and how it might go through 2016 with a

compromise spending bill? rep. flores: i don't know what that looks like. bargain,bout a grand but i don't hear anyone taking part in the bargaining of the grand bargain. what we have is a republican study committee going back a couple of weeks ago where we happening october 1. decided, "let's do something bold." we have a cannibal spending and responsibility act. it is as close to spending reform as anything i've had in my years of congress. it has great policy writers to rein in the white house is overreach. it also fixes other .ppropriations bills

it has policy writers to do with iran and other hot money issues. my conversations with leadership, which are going to have to start over, they were impressed at how we put together . it is a big bold plan. will it passed the senate in its current form? probably not. without the filibuster? it could. it,he present were to veto he would have to explain -- president were to veto it, he would have to explain why he is setting the government down. during this pivotal election year, you feel that they may be viewed negatively. is that something the republicans talk about? rep. flores: we do.

if the shutdown occurs because the house and senate cannot agree, i believe that we as republicans would be hurt because of that. however, if we are unified, both house and senate and have the rules of structure in the senate that allows us to put something on the president's desk, it makes perfect sense. it rebuilds our national security and puts our defense program to be funded the way it should be funded. ,t stops the regulatory assault and puts families first. i think we can win that argument and make the president defend his position to support all the things he has been doing. the event is highly unpopular. about 70% of the country thinks we are on the wrong track. desk where he his can ask when to the american people why his decision is the right one, the american people

are likely enough to buy that. david: wednesday night, the fiscal year ends. senate's leadership, senator mcconnell, majority leader, since he is compared to send over to the house a clean spending bill. at this point, in light of speaker boehner's resignation, would you support that sepnd pending bill to get through, or which you continue to fight that over the defunding of planned parenthood? you still got 70 thatpercent of americans are worried about the bad iranian deal the president has made. we need to have liquid should deal with that. the plan that our leadership lead out this morning has

it.ers oriders on my guess is that it rips those out and tries to send a clean one that would not garner a lot of republican support. ofwould get a combination some republicans and in kratz to pass. i like that. i would rather do something bigger and bolder like the responsible spending accountability act. you got the constitution ahead of this filibuster institutional role. you think democrats will come forward? rep. flores: that's my guess. i don't like that. if we are in the majority, we are to behave like we are in the majority and set the agenda. we try to do that, but then the tactics creates the disunity. david: so you're caucus would prefer to shut the government down?

rep. flores: there are a handful that would like to shut the government down. i think we learned from 2013 that that is not necessarily a good idea. we should not take it off the table, but we should not say that it is off the table. i would never say, hey, we have got to shut the government down. i don't think that's a good tactic. but i will say we are not going to shut the government down. we have about 10 minutes left. on this friday, among the many things that have been happening, republican presidential candidates have been speaking to the conservative congress. that whenbio says john boehner announced that he was going to step down, that it

was time to turn to a new generation of leadership. let's think about it this way. if we can reunify as a conference under a different leadership team, i think we will be more effective, because we will agree on tactics and get more things done more quickly than we only have. -- already have. that could pave the way for a smoother presidential election that is more in our favor. what does it mean for candidates like jeb bush who are more consensus than candidates like marco rubio, ted cruz. rep. flores: that's above my pay rate. [laughter] rep. flores: i have been following it. to the extent that congress does not become the focus of the problems, a lot of candidates have been throwing rocks at congress.

i think it has been unfair. the house has done its job. we have had a lot of senators come over to the house and try to tell us how to do our job. that, noten doing always as smoothly as we would like to, but we have been doing it. extent that congress does not become the issue anymore, the candidates have to look at the american people and say why they are the best candidate instead of throwing bricks at us. allow the does spotlight to be fully on those candidates, which is where it needs debate. >> let's turn to energy legislation, if we could. rep. flores: if we could. susan: the senate and the house both agree that we should be exporting crude oil. senator mcconnell has talked the presentng to

about that as part of a grand bargain at the end of the year that includes spending legislation. could there be some agreements with the white house and in the democrats?d see that shaping congress at all? rep. flores: i can see us lifting the ban. a lot of people are frustrated a ban,anians don't have but the american people have one. that's an easy argument to make. that will pass sometime early october, a bill that just passed the energy and commerce committee last week. i think we will be able to get emocratic votes. if the president does not pass

it, it could wind up being part of the grand bargain. susan: what about those who think it could hurt energy prices here or because of green the cause of green energy. what do you say to that? should we stop exporting wheat or corn? thans oil any different any other product exported by people?hanamerican got free president who trade authority, because he wants to be a free trade authority. why does he want to block one particular commodity? are there any other

issues you see possibility for cooperation on in the month ahead. we heard pope francis talking about immigrants. on immigration, is there any chance republicans and democrats might find common ground? rep. flores: there could be. american people are frustrated with the lack of security along our borders. they're frustrated we don't have the said entry -- have visa entry and exit systems. they are frustrated by the idea that their jobs have been taken by people who have come over the border. dialogue, wedeeper are going to have to have a security bill, we have got to have an interior enforcement possibly with more robust

verification. what do you do when the system is totally broken? paniesot high-tech com in the austan part of my .istrict calmeru can have a discussion, we can address what we do about the 11 million people who are here illegally. >> five minutes. susan: there are those who address your freedom conference friends on the further right than you who are asking why we don't train the homeless to do the jobs

immigrants are coming here to do. discussion. of the it illustrates the dividing congress. do you talk to the freedom conference folks on your right? you're all conservatives, but there is clearly divide between the republican committee that ,ou have and the freedom caucus the members who pushed up the speaker -- pushed out the speaker. rep. flores: i think it is interesting that you said that. there are no members of the freedom caucus who are further to the right than me. we do differ on tactics. if you go through the individual

members of the freedom caucus, and i can name names, and they feel the same about immigration reform as i do, i do agree, yes, we need to be training our own workforce as well. you have got a high tech company in my district and are america today, then you have to create a visa system. but, we also need a pipeline to the educational system here. we need to do both of those together and make a better america for all. you have seen tactics over the last two years called "trying to burn the house down." convince them to get over that anger and let them know the system works the way it works? my hope is that the

speaker's resignation, whether , that nowht or wrong there is not a target for the angst in the house. that we can work together. "hey, let'ssay, calm down, let's take a step do we stillask believe in the same goals? do we still believe in protecting our freedoms and constitutional liberties? do we believe in national security? do we believe in fixing the fiscal train wreck that is washington? ringing in then regulatory agencies?" i think they will say yes. a lot of members say the next speaker will face the same dynamic.

within just a matter of days, the next speaker will end up facing the same exact animosity as john boehner is facing. he is a conservative member of congress with a long record of conservative votes. rep. flores: i think that is something that americans don't realize, how conservative john boehner really was. yes, the next speaker that comes in is going to have to reach out and unify a that has disagreements over tactics. best as theo do my leader of the largest office in congress. there are three times as many members in our organization as there are republican senators in the senate. i think one of the things that would really make the trains run in terms ofd here

confronting these issues head on to drop the filibuster rule. we are not trying to reinvent the wheel. >> that is our time. with this live on a friday afternoon, a day for the history books. thanks to david and susan for your questions. rep. flores: thank you all. think you for inviting me. next, the news conference by speaker of the house john boehner explaining why he decided to resign. following that, some of pope visit toisit t washington dc. >> i went back to the office and

i followed him up and said, "mr. mayor, i have just been the club 55. don't you realize that people are watching what you do and where you go and you sit there all the time and watch naked dancing girls?" he sits there on the phone and says, "it's nice, isn't it?" >> tonight, tom sherwood on the political corruption in washington, d.c., and baltimore, maryland. there are people saying what he did was politics, not bribery. he didn't report the gifts. $15,000 for a child's wedding. $70,000 loans. could potentially be considered a vice presidential candidate and was in over his head when he got into office. this is a case where you let

your messy private life and political life combined together. >> on friday morning, speaker of the house john boehner announced that he will be resigning from that post at the end of the month. he has been facing the threat of a vote on whether he should stay on as speaker. that is a challenge that has not happened in more than 100 years. he discussed his reasons in the news conference. this is about 20 minutes. this is a stunning and abrupt change. ziplinzip a dee ♪ da, zip a dee a i have spent every day of my service fighting for smaller,

more tenable government. i have advanced conservative help.s that would we will reduce government spending by $1 trillion over the next fears. -- few years. % of thected 99 american people from races and taxes, all with a democratic president. my first job as speaker is to protect the institution. that my you now know plan was to step down at the end of last year. i decided that it the end of 2 010, when i was elected speaker, that serving two terms was plenty. but, in june of last year, it became clear that the majority

leader had lost his election, and i did not believe it was right for me to leave at the end of last year. my goal was to leave at the end of this year. birthday, on my november 17, to announce that i was leaving at the end of the year. thats become clear to me this belonged leadership turmoil would do irreparable harm to the institution. colleagues iy would resign from the speakership and congress at the end of october. is not about me. it is about the people, the institution. just yesterday, we witnessed the awesome site of pope francis addressing the greatest legislative body in the world. i hope that we will all heed his call to live by the golden rule.