enough weight to public opinion, and locations where pipelines are going through. it does not pay, in my opinion, i enough attention to all of the other issues, whether they be health issues, safety issues, and the like. 'm going to do what i can to try to make it absolutely the ase that ferc has to, in any of these decisions, pay much more attention to local communities, and listen to what your concerns are, and do much more to evaluate whatever the consequences, or the downsides f these decisions are. right now, their mandate seems to be only about delivery of energy anywhere, anytime. i don't think that is adequate in today's world. if we are going to have -- hat? [inaudible question]

ms. clinton: that's not -- let's not confuse the two issues. when you say supported, they are not paid for by oil and gas. they are certainly, at as a regulator for oil and gas, used o paying attention to what the oil and gas industry does. i will absolutely give you that. see, my problem, now that people have raised this with me, if we are going to have a national commitment to do something about climate change, ferc has to be part of that national commitment. that is my view on how we have to alter a lot of parts of the federal government. you know, it is not just the epa that needs to be focused on combating climate change, every part of the federal government needs to be focused. because i want to have a national goal thei said, look,

i want to have, by the end of my first term, half a million solar panels installed, and by the end of my term, enough renewable energy to power every home in america. if those are our goals, it is really important that we don't have the right hand doing something different than the left hand, in the old saying. it would be my intention, if regulatory changes are necessary, to undertake those, but also appoint people who will be really focused on how everyone works towards this big, overarching, national oal. and not have, you know, kind of have "old-think." there was a time when we needed more energy. some of us are able to remember. being in very long gas lines, at least i remember those days.

we were pretty much captive to middle east oil. we had a different mindset. now, we have to change that. i think your question is not only a specific what about a particular decision, but it raises a larger issue about what we are going to do to change our values, our goals. that is what i'm going to try to do. >> secretary clinton, the national student debt level has breached $1.1 trillion. the average student graduating in a -- from a new hampshire college will graduate with 30,000 dollars, and honestly, i would be surprised to meet someone with that little. what will you do about students graduating from college? [applause] ms. clinton: great question. let me ask, how many in this room currently have student debt? wow! keep your hands up. how many have ever had student ebt?

that is a healthy majority here. that is a great question. your statistics are right. we have 40 million people with student debt that now reaches $1.2 trillion. the first the most important thing is we need to make it possible for every person with student debt, current, and those who have graduated, refinance that debt. you know, that, to me, is the number one about goal. if you think about it, everyone else can refinance their debt. corporations can refinance their debt. you can refinance your mortgage, your car payment. why is it that students cannot refinance their debt? the worst injustice to me is that we have had 0% interest rates for years. i want to ask, how many of you know that you are paying an interest rate of at least 7%?

yeah. we have people who are paying interest rates far beyond what the real interest rates are. so i wnt everybody to be able to refinance. and then i want everybody to be able to do much more to get into income contingency repayment plans. what is that? this is what i had when i went to law school, so did my husband. we both borrowed money. we worked, we borrowed money. the loans we had, when we graduated, we both were teachers. we taught at the university of arkansas law school. my first job was with the children's defense fund, and then with the university of rkansas. i recall making between 14,000-$17,000 per year. we couldn't have paid some big fixed rate based on a high interest rate.

we paid on a poly about, as i recall it was like 10%,it took 15 years. it did not have the burden that i hear about because of the high fixed rates. he other thing i would like to do more of his make sure that people who go into our public service and national service jobs get a lower rate, more forgiveness faster, and a discount because they are doing something that serve their community. [applause] ms. clinton: then, to have a date certain when their obligations and. if you have been a responsible payer and taken advantage of all of the opportunities that i will provide, there will be an endpoint, and you can tell on that.

-- count on that. this is a big deal to me because too many people are being held back because of this debt. you say $32,000 -- that is one of the highest averages in the country. students in new hampshire are bearing. it is a big problem for everybody, but particularly for students here, and i have met a lot of them, who because of their student debt, cannot take jobs that they would like to take, because they cannot afford them. i met a young woman who said she had the job of her life in boston, but she could not afford to pay her student debt, and live there, so like so many students today, she is still living with her parents. that is nice, but you deserve the chance to make decisions about where you will live and work. and all of rest of it. that is what i want to do. m [applause] ms. clinton: i will make a very high priority. ok. what does that say?

oh, you are from mount holyoke. h a fellow seven sister. does that mean you want to ask a mount holyoke question? ms. clinton: i could see you holding up, and i had to get close to read it. >> my question -- i actually have two if that's ok. >> you talk about empowering women. i was wondering if you are going to do something about human trafficking the. my second, which goes along with college, and everything else, how will you and power use of america? ms. clinton: with respect to your first question, human trafficking, i feel passionately about this, and -- i feel passionately about this and have worked on this issue since my days as first lady. in fact, back in 2000, i worked with a coalition of outside activists and members of congress to pass the first ever united states legislation against human trafficking.

proud to say my husband signed so that began our efforts on human trafficking. [applause] ms. clinton: i stayed focused on that as senator, and then as secretary of state, worked really hard to do more about human trafficking around the world, and here at home. we appointed a first-rate federal prosecutor who had prosecuted some of the human trafficking cases in the united states, to head the office in the state department to take on these issues. we also pressured, through the human trafficking annual study, ifferent countries to change their laws and to enforce their laws. as first lady, i talked to other countries, and they did not understand why the united states was making a big deal out of this. it was part of, in their view, the culture.

now, they know that they will be graded every year by the united states government, and that if they are having a failing grade several years in a row, they can lose aid and other benefits from the united states government. it is our tool to get laws passed, and forced, and go after human trafficking. it remains one of the biggest sources of criminal activity and profits in the world. sometimes we think of one or two kinds of human trafficking -- the refugees flooding into europe are in many respects a form of human trafficking. they're picked up by smugglers who often abandon them. the children and adults that come across our southern border are often treated the same way.

their families pay money to smugglers and traffickers, who, again, may abandon them, abandoned them in the desert. we have a lot of trafficking of people into really exploited labor situation, literally people being kidnapped and put n fishing boats, being changed it -- chained to sewing machines in factories, and of course, we have sex trafficking, wehave poor families who are essentially convinced to sell their daughters. i remember being in northern thailand, when i was first lady, and it was before we passed our trafficking statute. part of the reason i was there was to talk to the government to convince them to take this seriously. i went to a hospice for young women, who were the victims of aids, after having been

trafficked into the brothels in bangkok, and then, when they were ill, were thrown literally on the street. some of them would make their way back to their homes. their families, who had been paid for them, would reject them. i remember standing by the wheelchair of a dying 12 euro girl, and having the aid workers, who were taking care of her, tell me her story. the aid workers said, you can tell that families who have sold their daughters, by driving around these villages -- the huts, the houses, the satellites sold their daughters. this is a deep part of the discrimination against women and girls, a rejection of their mportance, their human dignity, their rights, that

it is a deep challenge to change attitudes in many parts of the world about the value of girls, and make the case that educating a girl, over the long run, will be far better for the family, then selling her at the age of 11 or 12, to be either an indentured servant, or a sex orker. this is an area that is particularly a concern of mine because it goes hand-in-hand with the exultation of poor -- exploitation of inferior marginalized people and particularly girls and women in many places across the country. thank you. >> back to handguns, recently, australia managed to get away,

or take away tens of thousands, millions of handguns. in one year, they were all gone. can we do that? why, if we can't, why can't e? ms. clinton: australia is a good example, canada is a good example, the u.k. is a good example. why? each of them have had mass killings. ustralia had a huge mass killing about 25, 20 or 25 years ago. canada did as well, so did did the u.k. in reaction, the passed much stricter gun laws. in the australian example, as i recall, that was a buyback program. australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. then, they basically clamps

down, going forward, in terms of having more of a background check approach, more of a permitting approach, but they believe, and i think the evidence supports them that by offering to buy back the guns, they were able to curtail the supply, and set a different standard for gun purchases in he future. communities have done that in our country. several communities have done gun buyback programs. i figure would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged. after the terrible 2008 financial crisis, one of the programs that president obama was able to get in place was cash for clunkers. you remember that? it was partially a way to get people to buy new cars, and to get old models, that were polluting too much, off the

oad. i think that is worth considering. i do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how it would work, but certainly dust are you example is worth looking at. [applause] ms. clinton: yes, right there. here comes the microphone. >> thank you. my name is nicole. i would like to thank you for coming to keene state today. i'm studying to be a teacher here, some wondered what your thoughts are on education reform, and what you plan on doing for education reform when you become president. ms. clinton: i'm glad you will be a teacher. >> thank you. [applause] ms. clinton: i have to say, keene state has a well-deserved reputation for turning out educators. and i want to ralplaud keane state faculty and students. [applause]

ms. clinton: i could talk about is a long time. i will try to be more focused. first of all, i think we have to do more to actually pay attention to what educators tell us about what will work in he classrooms. ms. clinton: that sounds so obvious that some of you are probably wondering, why would she say something so obvious? it is because we have been having a very figures debate, a contentious debate, over what will work and what will not work to try to increase educational achievement among ur young people. i think the debate has gotten off base. i think it is too much about the latest fads, the latest products, the latest models, instead of taking a deep breath, and actually talking to experts that have done an enormous amount of research about what really works.

i want to get back to what really works. i know that there are a lot of well-meaning people who are really down on the public schools. i just don't believe or sure that -- or share that. i think public schools are the bedrock institution of our democracy. [applause] ms. clinton: we need to do more to make them work. here are a couple of observations because this is a much longer conversation. i must say, i am honored to have the support of the teachers of new hampshire and merica in my campaign. [applause] ms. clinton: because of that, i want to be a partner in figuring out what are the best way forward to do a better job,

helping kids, particularly poor kids, kids with special needs, kids that comment to school -- who come in to school from literally the first day of kindergarten not as prepared as their classmates are to be successful. i start with early childhood education and universal free kindergarten. that's where i start. [applause] ms great disservice to ignore the fact that the first five years of life set of the child, set up the vocabulary of the child -- we now know from brain research -- even influences the brain and ways that will be easier, less so, and learning -- in learning. the brain research tells us that 80% of your brain is physically formed by the age of three. hat happens in those first three years and then first five

years before you go into a formal classroom really depends on the family and the community, and what kinds of support families can be given. i am a strong believer in early education, particularly for kids that have various kinds of disadvantages. i will just tell you a quick story. when bill was governor of arkansas, one of our problems was -- it was, you know, the second poorest state in america, and the teachers were the second poorest paid in america. a lot of the families had really serious economic challenges. when you are thinking about, what you do to try to improve the schools? we tackled standards, we raised teacher pay, we did a lot that needed to be done that was overdue, but we also look to this problem about what happens when kids show up that first

day. as a result, i began looking all over to try to find an affordable program that could help more low income kids be better prepared. a lot of programs that are the real state of the art are expensive. i would love for our country to invest in them because you actually save money at the end of it -- that has been proven over and over again. but being realistic, we got to try to find everything we can do and make it affordable. this was so serendipitous. i was in florida with bill. we were attending some meeting that he had. i was literally in the hotel room, flipping through the paper, and i saw a picture of a professor from israel giving a lecture about program they had started there. i read about it. it was fascinating. it basically said that after a big influx of immigrants from le poor nations like ethiopia,

the kids would go to the excellent israeli schools, but they were not achieving. the researchers would say, what's going on here, they are in the schools, is the schools are the only answer, why aren't they doing better? they realize that they had to work in the family in those first five years. i called this woman. i said, dr. lombard, i'm hillary clinton, calling from arkansas. she said, where? i said, arkansas. she said, where is that? i said, next to texas, look at a map. i said, if she was coming to the united states, if i could meet with her. to figure out if what they did in israel was transferable to the united states. she came. we began what is called home instruction program for youngsters. the idea behind it is to help the mother become her child's first teacher.

to feel confident and competent enough to prepare her own child to learn, doing simple things like talking to her baby. a lot of low income mothers -- when i started doing this back in the 1980's, i said, i bet you are loving talking to your baby, and she said, why would i talk to her, she will not talk back. not because she didn't love her -- , but because shoors because she had no idea that is how you build synapses and vocabulary. fast forward, this has been going on for 25 years, and has a great track record. we could do more in the homes helping mothers become their hild's first teacher, but we still need universal prekindergarten so that every kendrick can get that level of preparation so that when they go to that first day of kindergarten, they will have a fighting chance to be

successful. i will and there -- end their saying i'm really looking forward to working with the teachers of america to make our education system everything it should be. ok, back here. >> thank you, mrs. clinton. a couple of weeks back, you came and spoke to a large group about the drug issue in our state. we are grandparents raising our 10-year-old grandson because his father, we lost them to an verdose. i love keane state because i taught here for 15 years and retired here. would you please say a bit more, even though you are preaching to the choir. ms. clinton: i have to say, you are the third grandmother that i have personally met in new hampshire that is raising a grandchild because of drugs. we did have an incredible town hall here, didn't we? 600-700 people, most of them

really affected in some way or another by this terrible epidemic of addiction. in particular, here new ampshire, and next-door in vermont, heroin. the heroin epidemic, which is killing so many young people, and leaving grieving and broken families behind. i don't think i would have been talking about this issue had i not spent several months listening to people. in iowa, on my first trip, in this campaign, and then in new hampshire, in keene, on my first trip, i heard about the hair when epidemic -- heroin pidemic.

so i began looking into it. nd i know that everywhere i went, someone raised it with me. sometimes publicly, sometimes afterwards, privately. that's why i have a comprehensive agenda, to try to reverse, to begin to reverse this tide of addiction theit includes better preventive efforts, more treatment, something we just do not have enough of. if you do have somebody, and persuade them to seek treatment, only one in 10 will get it in a timely way. we do not have enough of it. we are also seeing real progress. i had a meeting about this issue, and i was so impressed by the police chief who has changed the whole way he polices drug abuse and offenses. instead of sending people to jail, they are trying to get them treatment. they're trying to match them with some sort of mentor from the recovery community. they are now equipped with the

antidote tory verse heroin overdoses. so we have to change the way we police. we need for more drug courts. drug courts are for more cost-effective than problem. we send a lot of people to prison for minor drug a -- offenses, they come out full-blown addicts we just are going at this, i think, backwards. so i am making this an issue because i really believe it's a public health yirb89 as i talked about two weeks ago up in boston with the attorney general and with the mayor, you now, mayor walsh is a recoring -- recovering alcoholic and very willing to paulk -- talk about it because he knows that if someone in his position

doesn't talk about it, how is someone to know that there is something they can do, some path forward? but for me it's really about the lives that are affected and all those who are trying to help their loved one or cope with the fact that they can't help or that that person is no longer around. so i appreciate very much your raising this because we're going to keep talking good and try to do more about it. thank you. [applause] you know, i try to be fair by going in this little circle here, but there are so many hands! young lady with the red scarf right back there against the wall? here comes the microphone. >> so i'll con -- concerned about your support and endorsement of genetically modified crops in the biotech strifment i understand that

there are many benefits to the genetically engineered crops but what about all the risks? i'm not sure there is enough research to be sure they're safe for our bodies and the 1r50eur789 could you explain your support? secretary clinton: well, i strongly sup -- support what the department of agriculture is now doing, which is work toward voluntarily labeling and to have more information for consumers so that on bar codes or labels, people can actually know what they're buying. that's got to be the first stefment the second step i support that the department of agriculture is doing is preventing the proponents of g.m.o.'s from stopping states from setting higher standards because i believe that in an area, as you rightly say, we need more research and consumers need better

information based on the research we currently have, that it would be a terrible mistake for the industry to be able to use their influence in congress to stop looking into it, finding out more about it. i want more research, too. i think you are right. there are some forms of this that are lifesavers. drought resistant crops are often genetically modified. peoplet want to deprive in drought conditions from being able to grow crops that they then can use, unless there is evidence, research that shows that they can do it. on the other hand, we need an ongoing system of doing much more to check out all the chemicals and genetic changes. it's not just gmo's amarin about, we have hundreds if not thousands of chemicals -- i'm

worried about, we have hundreds if not thousands of chemicals that we have to determine. i am a huge believer in safety and in the right to know. and i think we are not doing enough on either of those counts . right now, that's where i stand on it. i am not in any way pro, forward, no questions asked. i think that's not smart. but i'm also not anti-no questions asked. we have been eating these crops for hundreds of years in different forms, it's just more sophisticated now. i am very much in favor of making sure it is labeled, making sure that no state or local community is stopped from doing what it thinks it's right, and much more money by

independent sources in looking , that we have better information in the first place. [applause] hate to not let somebody else ask a question. back here, i've had my back to them the whole time, how about this young lady in the keene state debate -- i'm big on debates, so -- [applause] ms. clinton: i will give you mic. thank you. i am a senior at keene state, majoring in holocaust studies. plans wondering what your are for genocide awareness and prevention, and specifically what the plans for the atrocity prevention board would look like. thank you. [applause] ms. clinton: i have to say, i think keene state may be the first college in the country to

have a holocaust genocide studies program, right? [applause] join in the and i applause. i think that is absolutely amazing and brilliant to have a atcific curriculum to look holocaust studies and genocide, because we've got to have educated young people and others like you who are equipped to help us deal with a lot of these issues. unfortunately, we are living with them. we have to come up with a better response. announce theged to atrocities prevention board when it was first set up in the obama administration -- [applause] ms. clinton: and i did it at the holocaust museum in washington, if any of you have in their. it was the most -- have been

there. it was the most appropriate place to make that announcement. i will certainly not only continue it, but look for ways can becomesibility higher so that more people know that the united states has this , and that we will work to find ways to bring people together around, and responses -- around common responses to potential genocide, learning from the past. there are so many theoretical and practical aspects to this that deserve a lot of thought. for example, we know that often ethnic, conflicts -- other leadersbal, of groups actually set these genocides in motion.

they use the media, we saw that in bosnia, where people who had lived together peacefully for a very long time were set against each other through a propaganda effort on the media that turned neighbor against neighbor and even split families, so we have to understand quickly if something like that is happening , what are the best ways to combat it? we saw the same thing and rwanda. we have seen the same thing and the central african republic between christians and muslims. two not only condemn this and speak out against the horrible effects of the holocaust, of genocide, and of atrocities, but we have to really analyze it, and that's why i'm so proud of the course you are doing. what triggers it? what turns people against one another who have been maybe not

loving each other, but not killing each other? all of a sudden, something sets them off. how do we try to have interventions that prevent that? a lot of cultures are on a trip wire -- something could set them off. how do we help we other countries -- how do we help other countries with a variety of different cultures understand what they need to do to prevent it from escalating? i am delighted and i hope that those who are in this program and graduate from it will find ways in our government, ways in our international organization, and not -- in nonprofits, to help understand what we can do to prevent this from happening in the future. [applause] ms. clinton: this lady right there. yep, right there. here comes a microphone. you.

-- yeah. a little more difficult to get through. here it comes. guest: thank you for taking my question. protected the american people and the american economy for decades. then, it was dismantled and we crashed and hit bottom. you -- at the as debate, you said you would not be in support of reinstating it. i wonder why. also, if you become president, how would you protect us from rogue banks and wall street? i intend to do just that, and my plan is more comprehensive, more effective, and in fact, tougher. take a look at paul krugman's

column today. paul krugman, who i think is pretty amazing progressive basically said i had the better side of this argument. why did he say this? because i fully respect my colleagues who have said, let's reinstate glass-steagall. if i thought that alone would prevent a potential next crisis, i would raise my hand and join, but that is not my assessment. because if you look, as krugman , someoday in his column of the major actors who caused the 2008 crash were not big banks and would have never been covered by glass-steagall. insuranceiant company, lehman brothers, they would never have been affected by it. what i want to do was crackdown on the banks by assessing a risky and forcing them -- a

risk-fee and forcing them to have to comply with. frank --. frank and tougher -- with dodd potential regulations. i am in favor of breaking them up if they are a threat. but the real threat is the what is called the shadow bank world, the hedge funds. glass-steagall would not do anything about that if it were reinstated tomorrow. i have the greatest respect for my colleagues and former colleagues who are really focused on that, but i go further. my proposal, which you can go to my website and read about, goes much further and includes everybody that i think would pose a risk to the economy, including the big banks, but going much further than that. that's why i have taken the position i have. read paul krugman today to understand why. [applause] this young man i

think has had his hand up for a long time, and he's got a cheering section behind him. he has brought his own cheerleaders who are -- go right ahead. guest: as a bisexual member of the lgbt community, equal rights is important to me. over the years, your views on this topic have evolved. how do you compare yourself to other candidates that have remained firm on their views , and how do you think you've done to change from the past views? ms. clinton: i think if you speak with the human rights campaign or any of the large advocacy groups, they will tell you that they count on me, and that you can count on me. i was the first and only first -- everr to marja gate to march in the pride parade back in the 1980's.

i have been a vocal, visible advocate for equality and against discrimination. yes, my views did evolve. i think most people my age would say the same thing. there might be some exceptions, but largely because of my strong opposition to discrimination of any sort and my personal relationships with a lots of people over the years, i certainly included that marriage -- concluded that marriage equality should be the law of the land, and i was thrilled when the supreme court made it the law of the land. and i will -- [applause] i will enforce marriage equality, but we've got to go further than that. in a lot of states now, because of the constitutional decision, you can get married on saturday and get fired on monday. we still permit discrimination in employment and in public accommodations, so we have to

fast -- past the equality -- pass the equality act currently pending in congress. that will be my highest priority. marriage is not the end of the debate, it is the path along true equality, and you can count on me to fight for you. [applause] ok, up there. yes, ok, here you go. i love your red. [laughter] fort: i have been a nurse 25 years in a long-term care setting. we are faced with a lot of challenges that i am sure many people have experienced from medicare cuts to drug companies that gouge people. we recently had an individual that was being caused $20,000 for seven days of medication, which is just not something people have. but in a bigger scheme right now is the nursing shortage that is

plaguing the country. it is going to gain momentum as baby boomers retire. new hampshire is experiencing it , the long-term care industry is experiencing it, and the hospitals. do you have any thoughts on what we can do, because when we are looking at standards of care and quality and the things we want for our loved ones, yet people going into the industry are challenged between their workload -- how do we manage that and how do we make it possible to raise the number of nurses out there serving our community? [applause] ms. clinton: first of all, thanks for being a nurse. i think people know or should know that nursing care is often the single biggest reason people either get well and recover or not. the nurse is at the center of the health care system in many ways. [applause]

ms. clinton: a couple of things about this -- one, the last time i looked, most nursing programs were oversubscribed by people wanting to get into them. were far morehere applicants than there were places for them. i think we should be expanding our training programs, our educational programs, so that we can actually trained more nurses to get ahead of what is a very serious problem with the retirement of a lot of baby boomer nurses. the fact that we are not going to have enough of a supply if we don't start trying to fill the pipeline now. there are some excellent programs, but we are going to have to open additional programs. favor of federal support for programs that have a proven track record of turning out excellent nurses so they can slots, more faculty, more

, said that they can add to the numbers of people that get into the profession early. i also think it is important that nurses be given more authority in the medical settings in which they work. we know that a lot of nurses are being overworked, they are being shifts, serve very long , because of them now the numbers have shrunk and a lot of settings, particularly in hospital and nursing home settings, nursing homes our response -- nurses are responsible for more patients. the nurses i have spoken to have all said this is unsustainable. if you have ever shattered a nurse, which i did back in 2007, it is exhausting. ts' rimsut of patien

-- i was in a hospital, stopping to do the checks with doctors, filling out the forms -- by the end of the shift, you are just drained. if you are try to take care of too many patients, the result can be unfortunate. i think on both ends -- more training, more education, more support for this programs, and on to make sure that nurses the job have the support and authority that they need. that's how i would try to approach this. one more question. there are a lot of hands up here, mike, so i will let you pick, whoever it is since you are the one -- who did you pick? with your eyes shut. ok. all right. to bring this back to student loans, i am a senior here at keene state in the elementary education department, and the last three years all of my lungs have been through a

credit card company because my parents make too much money -- all of my loans have been through a credit card company because my parents make too much money. a said the expected parental income is $30,000 a year. they don't have $30,000 a year to give me. i have extremely high interest rates, and the only way i now have energy -- have any federal support for this year is because i got married this summer. i find my blowing that i am still the same person who has been with the same partner for almost six years, and i've had the same parents with the same jobs, income, and financial situation, but now the government says lahaye, we can't we can help you because you got married. before that, i wasn't worth anything. ms. clinton: i can't stand that. i think that's terrible. we are going to change that. ahe fast the -- fafs

application is absurd. [applause] we have had kind of a perfect storm. the application turns people off and penalizes people like your parents, so it is a lease-lose. e. lose-los the parents plus loans have been so expensive and way beyond the means of most families to be able to manage. the federal government should not be making a profit off of student loans. that is my strong belief. [applause] ms. clinton: we've got to fix the whole system. your example is unfortunately all too common. .ou are the same person if families can make a contribution, fine, but it has to be reasonable. if students can work, i worked, so maybe i am biased, 10 hours a

week to get debt free tuition, which is my goal. you never have to borrow a penny -- to pay tuition for public college or -- ersity, so that will [applause] ms. clinton: and it has generally become so wrong. i had a young woman in nevada say to me come of the hardest part about going to college should not be figuring out how to pay for it. the amount of stress and english and disappointment from young people and their families is just the odd anything it should ever be. -- beyond anything it should be. the other problem i have encountered from talking to people all this is that a lot of young people who try to start, then something happens and they without, they are stuck the loans and have nothing to show for it because they never got their degree. and the worst offenders are

some, not all -- some of the for-profit colleges that are pretty unscrupulous and how they treat students and their parents. and one of the most exploited groups are veterans, who under the new g.i. bill have the educationy to get the , and a lot of these for-profit colleges try to recruit the vets , and then they basically take under one of the loopholes in the law, and don't produce results for our vets. there are a number of issues here that i am going to be confronting. the debt free tuition would be a big help to you. that's going to be one of my primary goals -- to make college more affordable and get the debt and hopefully eliminated in a more reasonable way than what you are facing. thank you all very much. [applause] ms. clinton: thank you all.

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