people, people are mistaken if they think black people will not vote. i am an african-american for hillary. it is different being a person who lived in brooklyn and went to live in vermont. believe me, might granddaughter went to school in new hampshire. it was not a very from the atmosphere for black purses. i have nothing against bernie sanders. i do not think he is good for the country or the democratic party. his vote is a wasted vote. host: in other news on capitol hill, yesterday the freedom caucus is, put their support behind paul ryan, but not an official endorsement. th washington timese noting that paul ryan came up short of the number needed for an official endorsement. but it helps mr. ryan get closer to the 218 votes of support he will need when the full houseboats october 29 to replace john boehner. the day before is when the

entire rank-and-file republicans go behind closed doors, and they will nominate their next speaker. the house freedom caucus says they need to get the 80% of the house freedom caucus members in order to give an official endorsement. their endorsement right now lies with daniel webster. here is what paul ryan had to say on twitter about this news from the freedom caucus. "i'm grateful for the support of the super majority. i look forward to hearing from the other two caucuses. but i believe this is a positive step towards a." -- towards a united republican team." those meetings will take place -- the wisconsin republican gave to his fellow members to come up with an endorsement for him. he wants to have all of the factions, all three factions,

moderate republicans, and the house freedom caucus behind him if he is going to put his name forward as speaker. let me show you the opinion page of usa today. the usa today editorial says that rayyan offers the best bet. the opposing view is written by eric erickson. host of an atlanta-based talk radio show. he says that paul ryan is not conservative enough. he voted for president bush's no child left behind. he voted for the 2005 energy big that was -- full of government mandates. he voted for the debt ceiling plan take a look at what the house freedom caucus said last night

in her statement after they met behind closed doors with paul ryan. they say that paul is a policy eur who has developed reforms dealing with a wide friday of subjects and promised to be an ideal speaker who would advance limited government speakers. while no consensus exists among members of the house freedom believe these issues can be resolved within our conference in due time. it is those conditions set forth speaking point for many of them. mainly his intention that they need to change house rules that allow any member of congress to put forth a privileged resolution that would allow a vote on the speaker to vacate the chair. and it is that that is a sticking point for many of the republicans in the house freedom caucus. we will talk more about this coming up on "washington journal ."

we are going to talk to a member of the house freedom caucus. he is not backing paul ryan before dan webster. your thoughts on vice president joe biden's news yesterday that he will not seek the white house. princeton, new jersey. you are supporting bernie sanders. good morning. you're on the air. caller: hello. before i talk about bernie sanders, i was going to mention something else. thinking process. there have only been four sitting vice president in the history of the country to be elected president. george h.w. bush in 1988 and one 1790's.and two in the so, that may have gotten into is thinking. we jsut don -- just don't do it very much. election without joe biden, i think a lot of the

people who were waiting on joe biden will be supporters of hillary clinton. i've been a supporter of bernie sanders since i was an undergraduate in new jersey. a political science major. as that earlier caller talked have -- we can't socialism. the truth is i studied with socialism. and it's not, it's not something that you, it is not something in opposition to capitalism. what we had was dictatorships in this world that call themselves socialist but they had nothing to do with the critique of, of capitalism and the industrial revolution that was, that was what socialism came from, began as and still is. it is just a philosophy that is a critique of what is. theit sis not what we saw in centralized governments that were dictatorships that call

themselves socialism. perhapsu mentioned that it was history that played a factor in joe biden's decision. the new york times and wall street journal report that fundraising was a big one. the wall street journal says as time elapsed, the challenge of playing catch-up grew steeper. mrs. clinton had double-digit poll dates a little more on the back story from the wall street journal. after another week and at home in delaware, vice president joe biden told his aides on monday he wanted more time. the team was anxious and anticipating a decision on whether or not the vice president would amount of white house bid. they activated the campaign and waiting --

a little bit of back story on how this came about and when he decided to say that he would not be seeking the white house. his political career spans across four decades. he was elected to the senate when he was 26 years old. excuse me, elected to the senate when he was 36 years old. i'm going to get this. 36 years in congress. elected to the senate at age 29. and served as chairs of the foreign relations committee as well as the judiciary committee. pat in massachusetts. welcome to the conversation. go ahead. caller: good morning. yes, my personal opinion of joe biden is he's kind of a boob. say regardsave to

-- clinton. what do you think bill clinton and obama talks about when they played golf a while back? i don't really know but i would imagine it had somebody do with indicting hillary. biden obama notified recently that there was going to be no indictment, the fbi would not look at her. think that would've been the reason he dropped out. i heard that speculation on radio. it is not an original diea. i will leave that idea -- it's not an original idea. biden there told is going to be no fbi investigation. and so -- so he realized. host: are you a republican, pat? caller: yeah, republican independent, yeah. host: who are you supporting?

caller: i like mr. carson. host: why is that? caller: i find him to be intellectually interesting. why not let a brain surgeon run our country for a while? greenville, in north carolina, supporting bernie sanders. caller: yes.how you doing? bernie sanders is definitely the only person that's running for president on either side that's running for our country's needs. and he's been consistent for oppressively 25 to -- approximately 25 to 30 years. you can go online -- when he was a congressman and all the way back to when he was in for my. h-- in vermont. he has been on the spirit he is not a millionaire. that is hard to believe because everybody else has been in

washington for any length of time are wealthy because he does not take any money from special interests, superpacs or corporations or koch brother type people. and he was in the 1960's, he formarching and sticking up african-americans. and he's always been tremendous -- rights for everyone. he has been fighting the system his whole career. he's just honest. i just can't believe that people are confusing him with the word socialism. theyant eleanor roosevelt, called him associate -- franklin delano roosevelt, they called him a socialist. he saved the country. host: supporting bernie sanders for the presidency. are getting your thoughts on

the announcement yesterday by the vice president at the white house with the president standing by his side, that he the white house. clinton supporters -- 8001.rs supporters 748- all others 748-8002. we want to talk about what is today.ng on capitol hill how select committee on benghazi will hear from the former secretary of state and the democratic candidate for the presidency hillary clinton. she will be the for the committee at 10:00 a.m. rachel bade is joining us this morning. bade, tell us what is happening right now. is there a lot of action? people preparing for her testimony later this morning? rachel: yeah, there's people already lining up. a lot of people standing outside the door to come in. they are not going to be letting the public in till 9:30. this is a hearing of the year.

people are getting ready. cameras are set up. ready for lawmakers to talk about what they are hearing and what they are thinking. look, there is a lot on the line for both trey gowdy and the republicans on the committee and also, of course, hillary clinton, as she comes in and talks about this 2012 attack, terrace attack that left for americans that. americans has shown are satisfied with her response to benghazi attacks. so, there's definitely a lot of minds potentially one over. this could be a huge -- depending on if the republicans on the committee have something new that could turn a negative light. it could really hurt her on the campaign trail. republicans right now are under a lot of pressure themselves to justify this long investigation. a are under a lot of, they are getting a lot of heat now. allegation this is part -- they are out to get hillary clinton

and hurt her bid for the white house. they deny that. but there is a huge monsoon of allegations in terms of losing and straying away from the intent of the investigation which was to find out how this happened and why. host: polls show that americans are divided over that as well. republicans -- according to an nbc poll, 36% called it unfair. 9% called it fair and impartial. what can we expect today? i think we are going to see republicans trying to walk a fine line. they are going to try to be very professional. i would not expect to see mannerisms like we saw in the oversight committee, which the oversight committee can be very contentious. cutting the witness off. potential yelling. i think we will see some heated

exchanges, but i think we will see a little more professionalism because they are going to try to keep their, republicans will try to keep their poise, seem like they are not ideologues trying to pin her down and make her look bad. they are going to make this look like a serious, investigated effort to learn more about the attacks. clinton is going to try to seem as presidential as she can. outside the hearings, there is so much -- ranting going on right now. clinton during the debate last week totally waived off this theittee as an arm of republican national committee, saying it was out to get her. they were dishonoring four dead americans by using their deaths to get to her in the polls. ofean, the potential it -- getting very ugly is high, but i think they are going to really try to not take it that way. and we will just have to see where it goes. host: how long is she expected

to be in the chair for questioning? rachel: so, we started 10:00. they could go as late as 8:00 or nine quote. -- or 9:00. i'm skeptical it will go that late. republicans will get criticism if they have a marathon hearing that lasts more than 12 hours. but for a lot of the witnesses they have interviewed behind closed doors,with now they havee than 50 interviews. some of those have started at 8:00 in the morning and have lasted into the night. one was cindy blumenthal, a top ally of hillary clinton. i think we will see that come up in the hearing. host: rachael bade, outside of the committee hearing this morning on capitol hill, we appreciate your time this morning. guest: thank you so much for having me.

host: this gets underway at 10:00 this morning, that is when the questioning will start. and you can see our cameras set up there. we are going to continue to talk about this -- this testimony today. later on in our show, we are going to be extending the last hour showing you the sights and the scenes in the room, as well as outside, and show you what is happening as that committee prepares for hillary clinton's testimony. that is at 10:00 a.m. it begins. the hearing is to consist of four rounds of questions lasting each of itsrom seven republicans and five democrats. bade, heard from rachael she could be in the chair for eight, ten hours. there are several ways you can watch. first of all, it is going to be on c-span3 at 10:00 a.m. eastern time.

that is where you can find it on our c-span network. you can also find it on c-span radio. our website, to c-span.org, you can watch it there on your computer on your desk, but also on your mobile phone. you can also download the app, the c-span radio app to your devices,any of your and you can click on the c-span3 button there. and that is how you would be able to listen to the hearing. so there are several ways for you to tune in this morning. if you are going to be doing other things and want to hear what hillary clinton has to say and what these members of congress ask her about. but first, your thoughts on joe biden's decision that he will not seek the presidency. jamie in maryland, good morning to you. you are on the air. go ahead. caller: yes, i would like to say that -- [indiscernible] -- the benghazi thing.

you know -- [indiscernible] -- before he made his announcement. [indiscernible] nicole in dallas, texas. what do you make of this news? caller: i am happy that joe biden got out of the race. is the mosthillary electable candidate that we have. and i feel like she has been treated unfairly throughout this whole process. hillary clinton has been treated just awfully compared to the other presidential candidates. and i really do believe it is because she is a woman. and i just think that everybody needs to give hillary a chance. and these men have messed up this government.

that is why we are in debt. that is why we are in war. it is time for a woman to come and try to change things. host: ok, nicole. vice president joe biden talked a little bit yesterday in the rose garden about the presidential divide. vice president biden: i believe we have to and the divisive presidential politics that is ripping this country apart. and i think we can. it is petty. and it has gone on for much too long. i don't believe, like some do, that it is naive to talk to republicans. i don't think we should look at republicans as our enemies. they are our opposition. they're not our enemies. for the sake of the country, we have to work together. as the president has said many times, compromise is not a dirty word. look at it this way, folks. how does this country function without consensus? how can we move forward without

being able to arrive at consensus. four more years of this kind of pitch battle may be more than this country can take. we have to change it. we have to change it. host: the vice president yesterday saying republicans are not our enemies. the newspaper saying that is a reference to a recent debate where hillary clinton noted that republicans are some of her enemies she is most proud of. this is the reaction from the draft divided folks that put together a super pac to get the vice president into the race. we are so grateful for the gigantic out pouring of support from hundreds of thousands of americans from around the country and our effort to encourage the vice president to run. amy and hanover, maryland, you

are supporting bernie sanders, but what do you think? caller: actually, i am kind of relieved. [laughter] i say that because i have a lot of respect for all three front-runners in this race. certainly a lot of respect for biden. if anything, my respect for him increased when he said he wasn't going to run. i think he was honest when he said he has a lot on his mind and he is not in the place where he can really do a campaign and a presidency. so i respect him for stepping down. for me, what it comes down to in terms of who i support and to todress the most to make -- be motivated by values that i can understand and make good the sessions, i honestly think we would be in good hands with any of those three candidates. is between -- between the three, i think he is

most genuine. i worry about his electability, but at the end of the day, i think he has a tough decision -- we have a tough decision between biden and sanders to begin with. so we have two good choices on our hands here, and i hope that whoever can really stay truest to what is going to help the country move forward in the way that we need to move his or wins the primary. host: amy, you mentioned the vice president's late son, beau biden, who died of rain cancer could yesterday at the white house, the vice president talked about what he wants to do, how he will continue to lend his voice to many fights. [video clip] vice president biden: i believe we need a moonshot in this country to cure cancer. it is personal, but i know we can do this. the president and i have already been working hard on increasing funding for research and development because there are so many breakthroughs just on the

horizon in science and medicine. the things that are just about can -- we can we make them real. with an absolute national commitment to and cancer -- end cancer as we know it today. and i'm going to spend the next 15 months in this office pushing as hard as i can to accomplish this because i know there are democrats and republicans on the hill who share our passion, our passion to silence this deadly disease. if i can be anything, i would have wanted to be the president that ended cancer. because it is possible. host: the vice president yesterday talking about the cure for cancer and letting his voice to that and what he would've liked to have done if he were to have run and were to have become president. the answer would have been a personal fight for him.

amy and hanover, maryland. you are supporting bernie sanders. go ahead with your thoughts. caller: we just spoke. host: i keep doing that, amy. i'm sorry. let me remove onto roger in west haven, connecticut. you are on the air. feel that this country is in such dire straits that we will do anything just to get somebody in that would possibly do something to change it. i think we have gone from a president right now who is .ifferent, god bless him now we are going to get a woman in their. we are grasping at straws to find anything that might work. as far as biden is concerned, he is fine. he spent 35 years or 40 or whatever in politics. he was good. he was the whitest person they could find.

he was able to teach obama a little bit about politics that he didn't have in the beginning. and i really think that in the upcoming election, in my estimation, i think they are going to stick hillary in there. she will win because we are just looking for anything that might work. and i think they are going to say that a women might work next. host: ok. jo in the bronx -- joe in the bronx, you are supporting hillary clinton. caller: yes, good morning, greta. host: morning. caller: yes, i am supporting hillary, but any of the thatrats that are running get the nomination, i would support that. ok? now, here is the reason that i am glad that a get through the call this morning, greta, is because i heard a talking head saying why they believe joe

didn't run and blah blah blah. i cannot remember if it was augusttember -- i mean or early september when i called , and if you go back to the videotape, you will go back and hear what i said, read what i said because i always say when i called i am joe from the bronx. now, there are two reasons why i believe joe biden will not run. and let me read the two reasons why i said he wasn't going to run. host: ok, joe, get to it. caller: i said the reason why i joeeve the natural born biden will not run is, one, he is not going to be like john mccain, who will go down in the

history of this country to be the white man that try to prevent the first black man from becoming president, which is president obama. the second one i said, he will listen to his best friend, which is the president, who will tell him not to run because he will put him too much in a bind between the two of them to decide which one he wants to support. host: we will move on to jermaine and pennsylvania. you are supporting bernie sanders. caller: hi, what's up checkup any of the democrats -- what's up? any of the democrats are better than the republicans. although in pennsylvania, i have been watching charlie done. he makes me, proud to be pennsylvanian because we are in between. we may be conservative and we may be liberal, but somehow we make good decisions. that last guy, i don't

understand what he was talking about about preventing -- about being the first white guy preventing the first black man from being president. i voted for barack obama because i looked into his history, what his background was, and what his politics were paired medassets same thing i am doing with bernie sanders. and i have been following him before i ever thought he would make a run for the presidency. host: i am going to leave it there so i can get in some other quick headlines. "wall street journal" this morning on its front page, with the syrian leader and russian president vladimir putin. the u.s. secretary of state john kerry will meet his russian counterpart as well as top diplomats from saudi arabia --

before us to carry gets to those meetings -- before mr. kerry gets to those meetings, a tweet from the prime minister's office showing a photo of the two meeting. the "washington post" and notes he will be meeting with the leader of the palestinian, the palestinian president and jordan's king. in that meeting will be taking place probably in jordan.

separate meetings with the two of them to try and address the outbreak and violence in israel. the israelis have been killed in attacks by palestinians and at least 50 palestinians have been killed by israelis. so that happening in the middle east this week. secretary of state john kerry over there. ,"d in the "new york times 2015 is likely to be the hottest year on record. they say it is because of an el niño weather pattern, but what makes this different is the temperatures are running so far ahead of those during the last strong el niño in 19 that is seven and 1998 that scientists

said the record would not be occurring since an underlying trend of greenhouse gases. that in the "new york times" this morning. and then out of iran, the supreme leader has backed the iran nuclear deal with caveats. ,"is from the "washington post he supported the deal by allowing negotiators to hammer out provisions in exchange for lifting many nuclear sanctions. that on the iran deal. and also, wikileaks, as some of of you have no -- some may know, posted the cia director's e-mail after they hacked his personal e-mail and put out sensitive personal information about the cia director. this,en wikileaks saying

that again today there will be another data dump that they will put out -- they will put out more today. our john brennan e-mail series, including on u.s. strategy in afghanistan and pakistan. those are some of the headlines in the papers this morning. let me go to barbara in new york. go ahead. i think he did the right thing for the party. i think that he -- he would have made a wonderful president. i love the man. i think you did the right thing for his own personal -- he did the right thing for his own personal problems, which are devastating to him paired but for the party, -- to him. but for the party, he did the right thing.

i'm a hillary supporter all the way. i think joe pulling out of the race just has helped his party tremendously. and he knows that because he is a good politician. alexandra, you are supporting bernie sanders. what do you make of the news? caller: i think it is probably a sigh of relief on all sides. it really gives us an opportunity to see a head-to-head matchup. i think any of the three candidates could get a little over a third of the vote, but i think it is going to give us a better picture of what the democratic party really wants to have us to be able to weigh these two wonderful candidates side-by-side. host: preparations are underway on capitol hill this morning for the benghazi select committee. they will hear testimony from hillary clinton. these are our cameras outside of

the hearing room. you can to the line has already formed. those are the folks that want to get into that hearing room. there is obviously limited space to get in and hear the testimony. it could be more than eight hours. we will have to see. questioning from republicans and democrats. the hearing getting underway at 10:00 p.m. eastern time this morning. tune into c-span3 for coverage of the hearing. coming up next, we are going to take a short break and talk with representative cam shows cap -- tim huelskamp. and then later we will talk with lanny davis.

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at c-span.org. journal" continues. host: congressman tim huelskamp, chair of the tea party caucus and the house and a member of that house freedom caucus. the headline in the "washington times" -- you met behind closed doors with your members for nearly an hour. what was the meeting like. guest: a lot of discussion we had was the republican caucus. 60% of we reflect about the republican electorate that is sick and tired of washington. we want to see what changes paul would propose and how would he be different than john boehner. the current leadership has been rejected by the american people, and we want some specifics for many members. they liked what paul had to say,

and eventually he did receive an endorsement of about two thirds of the house freedom caucus membership. host: he put out a statement saying i'm grateful for the support of the super majority of the house freedom caucus, but he does not have 80%, including your support. guest: i continue to support daniel webster. he is the only candidate or speaker that has a plan to change -- for speaker that has a plan to change how this place is run. it has been a top-down approach rather than bottom-up. some members who worked close to leadership didn't have much of a in theto have a role caucus. this is a representative institution. as i told john boehner a few years ago, your voters and while are no more important than my voters in kansas. it is not about changing a leader, it is about changing the

process. i am still not for sure help outline what run the institution -- sure how paul ryan would run the institution different than the current speaker. host: one of his conditions was that nobody can just go to the floor and offer a perfect resolution to vacate the chair of the speakership. caller: that seems -- guest: that seems like an arcane role for many folks. thomas jefferson thought it was a good enough idea to put it in the rules of our congress. but any democratically elected institution should have a means to remove the leader, and to do that peacefully. i don't think that is going to change. there are arguments that it is constitutional in nature, but paul did make that demand any number of other demand. ryan run the speakership? and he has not made a final

decision. and what weighs heavily on his how, as well as my mind, is you put together a family time with young children. i go home every weekend, and paul does the same. it is a grueling schedule for the speaker. and that is one of the questions we have hit how is he going to do that and still take weekends off. host: did he backed down a little bit, though, in the meeting on this whole privilege revolution? -- resolution? believe it would suggest maybe if you are -- maybe a higher threshold. i think we'll move forward, but there were a list of demands. ofdid receive the support the super majority of the house freedom caucus. i am sure other caucuses will endorse him later today or have already. the ball is in paul ryan's

court. he has been given a green light to move forward. but when john boehner and eric cantor took over, they had a pledge to america, which was race specific what they would do in the house. the speakers always found of saying the pledge is the plan. ryan, i aman paul not sure what the plan is other than it is going to be different than john boehner. and that wasn't enough for me. hopefully we will hear more as we move for on how it will be different. will it be a top-down approach? that relies on a bunch of lobbyists that need to be bought up? host: one of his conditions was that he would like to change house rules -- changes to house rules made as a team and procedures to empower rank-and-file members. what did he tell you about that? guest: that is encouraging. that is what we need to see. i think we are to vote on a set of rules before you bring in a

new leader, rather than waiting on that after. if the speaker elect to change rules, those of the kind of rules i think we strongly support. i think we should probably do that before we elect a new speaker. -- ntion 60% of republicans they feel betrayed by the republican establishment in washington dc. simply changing one leader for another is not going to assure them. there is a number of concerns about paul ryan's positions. he has been a leader on budget and retirement -- and entitlement reform, but his views on immigration reform and a number of other issues weigh heavily in the minds of our voters out there. but they are going to explore, understand a little bit more about paul ryan moving ford. we are looking for changes. changes on how the house would operate. just because you are from wisconsin or california or

virginia or ohio does it mean that your voters should have more of a say in the process. we need to open it up. for far too long, republicans have been attacked, marginalized, and ridiculed. hope that we will have leadership that will reflect them rather than attack them. host: reports say that paul ryan has had behind closed doors that you are not bring up immigration this year as speaker, but he also, the report are saying, that he probably has 218, the number he needs on the house floor when the vote takes place on october 29. how many does daniel webster have? guest: i am not so sure. it was a strange phenomena when the election was canceled two weeks ago. it, we are reset still looking at i guess the same end timetable of next week. and he will begun by next

there's they, i guess is the plan. so i don't know where the votes are. we still don't know if paul ryan is really going to run. he said he would decide that by friday. so the place has been frozen. meanwhile, we have the debt ceiling, this reconciliation debt,t, $18.5 trillion in and not much is happening. but that has been the case for far too long. i have served up for four and half years. i did six townhouse last week and ask questions. number one, do you want to keep john boehner as speaker? easy answer for all of them, they said no. the second question, the new name with a compass went the republican congress has achieved since 2010? the answer was the same. no. i think we need leadership that to a focus and a new pledge america with plans to change washington. we have a complaint legislature

that gives an egg and and again to the executive. host: daniel webster is running. there are potentially two candidates for speaker. we will lend from paul ryan whether or not he gets the endorsement of these other two factions of the republican party before that friday deadline. if he does and he is in, he will challenge daniel webster. daniel webster tweeting out i am running for speaker to transform a broken congress based on the power of a few into a principle-based, member driven congress. i will continue to share my vision of pushing down the pyramid of power and spreading at the base to allow each member to be successful. guest: there will be an election, hopefully -- and again that was suspended a few weeks ago -- but it probably depends on whether paul ryan is joining the race. john boehner if

suspends the election again if paul ryan decides he is not going to run. and he says he needs almost unanimous support. but again, that is a tough decision. this is a grueling job. 9-5, 40 hourormal a week job. there are functions of fundraising for the political arm, and that is all going to continue. boehner was rumored to spend 200 days a year on the road. and i have a third grader and the eighth greater and a couple young ladies in college. that wouldn't work with my family. that he isncerns you sick you won't give up his family time, he won't be crisscrossing the country to fund raise. guest: well, that is a 30 -- worry. that are a test to our character, and i'm where to death where this country is heading. you see that frustration

bubbling up, but there is discontent on the republican side among republican voters. 60% think the establishment in washington has betrayed them. host: let's get to calls. lonnie is up first. an independent. caller: hello. host: you are on the air with congressman tim hills cap. -- tim huelskamp. we are from oklahoma. host: all right. caller: i am watching you and we are not there to answer you. host: what you have to do, just a reminder to all, is turned on the tv and talk through your phone. host: -- a republican. hi, there. caller: thank you for taking my call. one thing i want to make sure is that we have the unity of the party. the republican party -- [indiscernible]

hillary clinton and her ideas are bad for this country. we are going to have more debt coming into here like that. we can't do that. we need to have the unity of the party. as far as our presidential candidates go, -- [indiscernible] i hope they nail hillary clinton today, the hearing today because they really need to do that. she is not what i want to see as president of the united states. [indiscernible] -- with the whitewater situation. [indiscernible] host: ok. guest: i think the gentleman raises a tremendous question about unity and what we are going to see in the republican party. we are all unified as the

conservative party, then we come to washington and it seems that we are not. on the one hand, we say we are going to stand up to the administration, to the over regulations and face are growing debt problem, and then not much seems to happen up to her. that is why 60% of our republican voters think they have been betrayed by our party in washington. my hope is that paul ryan will change that if he is bigger, and daniel webster will definitely change the process. some folks think that somehow if you folks should make the decision in congress. i think that is totally wrong. it should be bottom up, not less. and the pledge to america written by kevin mccarthy and john boehner -- that is what they identify their procedural changes would be. us americans a looking at that time to remember their civics class and they say most bills don't follow the normal process. and oftentimes they come out

just a few days, a few hours before a critical deadline. host: the caller also said he hopes the lawmakers in the benghazi hearing today -- that he hopes lawmakers go after hillary clinton. let me ask you and get your reaction. guest: this is not about e-mails. this is not about political talking points. i see that happening for a lot of people. it is about getting to the truth. it is about making sure this doesn't ever happen again. this is one of the worst acts by radicals and the history of this country -- in the history of this country. member ofs a congress, i still don't know what happened there. host: as someone who asked for government spending less money, what about the cost of yet another investigation into benghazi? there have been numerous funds before. they have been at it for 17 months and they have spent $4

million, $5 million in taxpayers' money. guest: it is my understanding that if the e-mail's have been released earlier, they would have finished this a long time ago. it has been hide the ball. it has been don't let folks know what is going on. congress has a responsibility to provide oversight. and the executive has their commander in chief responsibilities. the committee is trying to find out the truth. the four families of the murdered american soldiers deserve to know the truth. they do notdate know why, when, and how. but we have a responsibility to defend americans on american soil, and that did not happen on that night. host: danny in north carolina, a democrat. good morning. caller: yes. host: go ahead, danny. caller: first, you guys got rid of john boehner. then you got rid of kevin mccarthy. now it seems like you don't even want paul ryan.

i am just tying to understand what is a going to take for the republican party to get on course so we can get back to governing. you guys are not even concerned about the country. you are more concerned about your own political statement or your own political needs. what happened to being a quote on quote servant or representative for the country? i don't see that happening at all. i see it as special interest groups like anything else. you are going to block no matter who you put in there. the country needs leadership. host: ok, daddy. caller: -- guest: great point, danny. the current process is run by special interests. bill after bill is written in the speaker's office with very little input. as a member of congress from kansas, it goes from rick to week, maybe on a friday, what is

going to be debated next week. it seems to be based on what happens in the speaker's office. that top-down approach has failed for the republicans. time and time again for four and a half years, the house and the senate have just complied with whatever the president demanded. at the president has given $1 trillion in borrowing authority, which he is demanding right now, the house and senate have gotten little in exchange. constitution, the congress comes first. and we should have oversight and responsibility. we have appropriations authority and responsibility. not a time can be spent without our approval, but in most cases, we haven't looked at the budget. and they just approved a budget for 10 weeks. what about the other 42 weeks out of the year? that is frustrating, and that is why the process needs to change. we have heard that from the speaker candidates.

they're are all talking about changing the process. the question is who will be able to follow through. and daniel webster did that in florida as speaker of the house. host: what are the two saying about this next deadline, which is raising the debt ceiling before november 3? guest: they are saying what we have been saying for years: why would you wait for two weeks before the deadline? the deadline really was march 15. and there has been no discussion, not a minutes discussion in the republican conference about what we do about this. and the problem is overspending could hopefully later this week we will pass a plan that addresses the underlying overspending problem. the problem with washington being too big. and hopefully we can pass it this week. the president will not compromise at all. and you put yourself in a box. we have told john boehner this

for years, you wait to the last minute and then say, oh, my goodness, we can't get anything done. host: reports yesterday, some have called it a placeholder until the current republican leadership can get enough votes to say yes and joined democrats for a clean debt ceiling increase. guest: you can never go to your bank or or credit card company and say, hey, give me a $10,000 loan. that is outrageous. that is what washington has been doing for decades. it is not a republican problem, it is not a democrat problem, it is a presidential lack of leadership problem. $18.5 trillion. i talk to young folks all the time and say you are the want to get to pay off the bad decisions of those in the past. i think it is totally irresponsible to say, hey, raise the debt ceiling. i think there are going to agree to it at the end of the day, and that is more of the same. and you see the frustration that

just on the dumber -- on the republican side, but on the democrat side. they are not focusing on the problem. it is where the approval rating for the congress and the president is so low. host: north carolina, an independent, good morning. caller: good morning. c-span is a great show. i enjoyed every day. thes somewhat pathetic how republican party courted paul ryan. he didn't want the job. and he made these demands as if he wants to be turned down for the job. why not give the job to daniel webster? he wants to be speaker. caller: i agree, it was an interesting door deal -- interesting ordeal, and it is not done yet. demands, and if want to see what is behind the curtain. how will this change echo i don't think -- change? i don't think anybody can tell

you what changes we would see in the institution if paul ryan is bigger. but what i have seen is everyone talking about speakers talking about how bad this place is run. about how it is a top-down rather than intervals based. and so much of it is driven by who is giving money to who and when they are giving it. folks -- [indiscernible] i had staffers for other members attacking me privately and anonymously in the press. that has to end. the best way to unify is not around a person, you unify around a principal. every republican claims to beacons -- claims to be fiscal when they are running. host: you are kicked off the agriculture committee. guest: i was kicked off the agriculture committee because of the way i was voted. it was done in a closed-door meeting and i wasn't even allowed in there. host: who was in the meeting?

guest: john boehner was there, and we know he has five votes. wait, what you mean? this process is set up where one man gets five votes? host: you are talking about the -- guest: the speaker gets five votes behind closed doors. they handed out punishment after punishment. there have been a dozen committee members who have been punished, and i think there are even more. evidence thaty of folks are targeted. went outohn boehner and attacked conservatives in anduary doing attack ads slamming members of congress. that is not the way you build unity. what you see again and again is what used to be a small minority is not a majority. mr. bennett will be gone. the second lieutenant did not

get the job. so now it is up to paul ryan whether he is going to get in, but daniel webster is still running. host: if paul ryan becomes the speaker, will you get by tim? guest: as long as we focus on the principles. you can't simply exchange one leader for another. structure dictates behavior, and that is not new. that is in the pledge to america written by kevin mccarthy. so what will be the structural changes? will the speaker still have five votes? ist i see from paul ryan change the rules that thomas jefferson instituted that said you have to have a way to remove this bigger. but we are still looking for those in writings because the american people deserve better. i think congress understands that. it percent approval for congress. you still have more than a few people saying nothing needs to change. i think we have a strong majority of republicans and democrats agreeing there has to

be a change. host: ritchie, a republican. caller: yes, i just want to talk to about what i feel is the real problem with the republican party. nafta was the biggest decision ever made in a country. -- today, we talk about how [indiscernible] -- was so good. the democratic party was sending our jobs to vietnam and china. then we get a credit card. $2500, $3000, low interest. that is why it is so good because they transferred our jobs for cheap labor. these poor people in china are beaten down by the government. these companies go in, take advantage of them. just like they tried to do in america until we had unions. i haven't voted since nafta. i put a piece of paper down saying none of the above because

america is first grade board was made by american workers. chevy was made by american workers. and because we had poor management at that time that would listen to the uneducated people, today in america, i never got a high school diploma but i worked for 43 years. and today i went to get a job as a school bus monitor and i can't even get a job because i don't have a piece of paper called a high school -- host: ritchie, i'm going to have the congressman respond. guest: i hear this all over this country, particularly in my own district in kansas. hard-working americans that have lost on most everything because of bad policies down in washington. whether nafta caused that are not is really not the question. it is this growing frustration that what made america great, and the government working with them rather than against them. feel wemost americans have lost the american dream, and that is a scary situation.

we still have a million people from around the world every year become citizens and come legally into this country. not to mention the illegal ones. congress has to learn to listen. i don't think they are listening. the pledge to america written by kevin mccarthy and john boehner says america knows congress is not listening. i think it is still going on. we have any tea for five join -- we have an $18.5 trillion debt. and what congress is about to do next week if they another $1 trillion is just fine. host: thomas is a democrat, you are on the air. caller: hello, this is thomas from california. host: you are on the air, sir. caller: representative tim, i'm interested in the freedom caucus -- let me thank you. the freedom caucus is shutting down the congress, in a sense. and we haven't had anything done

in congress. you passed bills in the house that never passed the senate and will never get past the president. so you don't want to compromise. so if you are in charge of the government, could you tell me what your philosophy is? this: we philosophy is need a smarter government, a smaller government. congress has been doing something, and that has been -- if you look at a flatline economy, i believe everybody agrees we can do better. as we heard from the last caller , ritchie, still looking for a job. but we need in congress is not doing what the president wants. we want -- need to do what the american people want. 's point,the caller though, what our democracy requires, they write, republicans under paul ryan leadership must learn to

compromise. if a legislative deal needs 60% in the gop direction -- do you agree? guest: 60%? i have never seen a 60% republican victory up here. it has been capitulation given to the president on everything he wants to see. it gave the president everything he wanted and republicans got nothing. and john boehner thought it was a good idea. him and nancy pelosi passed it. what we are simply asking is to make certain the house and senate have equal standing with the president of the united states. both the house and the senate have toned down paid you look at the presidential primary, less so on the democratic side, but less than 60% of voters by saying anybody but washington.

and you have three outsiders, like ted cruz, and it is pretty clear there is this frustration that has bubbled up on the republican side to say who is working for us in washington tuesday? the house job is not to rubberstamp the present didn't, it is to stand up for our constituents. every day, i hear from dozens and dozens of people who say they are frustrated. yes, there is always compromise. but why are we always losing? that is why i am asking the american people, what have we received. -- achieved in five years? host: the papers seem to endorse paul ryan for the house today. they say the reluctant boy scout must not expect to win a manner that, though, if he takes this job on because the job is likely to chew up paul ryan they propel him to bigger and better things. guest: i think paul is just like

me, it is not about his future. after daniel webster, it is definitely not about his future. i know a lot of people read about how that impacts people's careers, but i don't care. it is about our country. it is about how do we improve this process? at the end of the day, we need a speaker that follows through and keeps his word. and we need structural changes. our founders always intended congress would provide proper oversight. $3.5 trillion every year, and the american people saying we are not doing a good enough job. and i think paul ryan sees that. but the structure that has been put together for decades has been little change. any change makes this town nervous. , peoplege in washington across america say, hey, that is good. host: we are talking with congressman tim huelskamp, republican of kansas and a

member of the hall's freedom caucus -- the house freedom caucus. the supermajority giving him support, but not an official endorsement because they dating it to 80%. paul ryan also i got -- met with the study committee. and today, he is set to meet with another group. philip and los angeles, a republican. -- in los angeles, a republican. philip, are you there? we will move on to keep in evansville indiana -- evansville, indiana. a democrat. caller: yes, this is keith. host: keith, you are on the air. caller: yes, i just have a question or a comment. i would like to see the national debt maybe have a lottery for the national debt to pay down our national debt because in illinois, they are printing lottery tickets just like money and they can't even pay off the

lottery tickets. they are coming into indiana to buy lottery tickets to make sure that they can collect their winnings. i would also like to see one for the military, a national lottery for the military. host: how about those ideas, congressman? guest: a lot of states, including the state of kansas -- generally, it is not a revenue problem, it is a spending problem. there is more money ever than in the history of washington dc coming in. a lot of the folks say, hey, we have cut spending. that is not true. the biggest problem will be our entitlements. medicare, social security, medicaid, those are going to eat up an entire budget. whoever the next president is -- this is the only president could break hearts, i guess. the next president will have to face that head-on. host: we will go to texas next,

mike. guest: -- caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. is is hent to ask him sure about the 60% that he is quoting -- host: are you sure about the 60%? you quoted earlier 60% of republicans who are -- or that you represent. guest: 60% of the republican electorate in recent polling shows they feel betrayed. they feel like they haven't had a voice. they feel betrayed by a republican majority in the house and senate. host: mike, are you still there? caller: yes. i think it is more like 90% or above that are completely disgusted with everything that is going on in washington dc. and it is going to get worse if hillary clinton gets elected. i can't see it.

the most controversial person that has ever run for the presidency of this country. and, i don't know, there is a whole lot of things. we need term limits. we need a bunch of stuff. that iran deal over there that obama has stuck down our throats and all that kind of stuff, it is crazy. that is absolutely crazy. anybody who would believe those people and then give them all that money on top of that. host: congressman? guest: i agree, mike. the 60% is a most unbelievable because in my district it is much higher. i can't find a single supporter of the president of the net states. what they're looking for is some radical change because people feel like they have lost the country. they feel like they have lost what makes america great. washington isn't listening. i don't think a disability cap

cabo, by republican -- a democrat problem, a republican problem. washington be bad on doing the same thing they did. -- host: lauren wants to know, why don't you renters bigger deck of and then -- run for speaker? and then, any hope congress will of her follow regular order? guest: i am not running for speaker. i do not want the job, and my wife doesn't want me to have the job. , to quote a one previous candidate. and the second great -- host: regular order. guest: most people are members of a club or follow parliamentary procedure. and we all learn how committees were so important in schoolhouse rock and many others, but that

doesn't happen here. the speaker will go out and grab a bill, and we are going to vote on a bill on friday that deals with a very critical subject of the debt ceiling that i don't even think went through a committee. it was discussed yesterday, it could be on the floor friday. and we need more time. said that to america would all change. and it has not. so we need to go back to a process that involves more members. in the u.s.members house. in most cases, the bills are decided by three or four people. and everybody goes around saying, well, they think they have a big say. i get a vote, but the vote is often predetermined. the votes are picked, and they don't involve the committee. it needs to be a bottom-up approach. what daniel webster did was to change that power structure and

make it based on principles. republicans and democrats are not going to agree necessarily on the principles, but we should be open to a process that allows all members to have a say. i think i have been able to offer 304 amendment. that is all i've been able to offer. not because i want to do, but because of -- host: and when bills were put on the floor by this leadership where they knew the vote count is going to be tight, what kind of pressure did you feel from leadership? guest: there can be a lot of pressure. host: describe it, though. guest: if you state a position based on, in my case, conservative principles, they don't bother you too much. but they also don't like you too much. what has been frustrating to republicans is like what happened with the 10 week budget that congress passed and the president signed it the 10 week signed it.

the 10 week budget was a minority republican. harry reid and mitch mcconnell passed it in the senate, and the president signed it. saidrically sure cans and -- shook hands and said it was a great deal. what about the other 400 members of congress? that is never good enough. our founders never intended a small clique of three or four people -- kevin mccarthy's greatest line when he was running for speaker is we are tired of having a house that is run by staff. -- elected a lesson that [indiscernible] we sit in the house conference meetings and said we couldn't do that. things thatcanada people at home say that is not the way to run a house. that people things

at home say that is not the way to run a house. host: you are on the air with the congressman. go ahead. caller: i would first like to commend thehe addressed every ag put in think you very much. i have two points i would like to make. first, i see a lot being made of the $4.5 million that is being the cost of what it is to get to hillary clinton. i want to compare that to getting all of the courts sorted is too get him where he see a comparison of money spent. this is what the nation needs to take note of. the second thing, i feel, do you country, has a sense of loss?

the people are desperate for something and concentrated efforts for something that is good is all lost. there is a feeling to the country that we're nowhere near we should be. what i think he just described is what i've heard over and over. it describes how widespread it is. been thisan dream has feeling that we can be better off in the next generation. that things are going in the right can -- direction. i hear it in town hall after town halls. feeling ingrowing the american people that they are worried about the future. they're worried about the next generation. i am worried about that. they are going fine, but most americans are worried about the future.

theink they have lost of essence of being an american, what built this country. can we get that back? yes. will it be easy? no. republicans that say we cannot do anything until 2017. what will happen for the next 1.5 years? we can do things now to put the country on track. i reject the idea that we cannot get anything done until after the next election. congressman tim hills. we always appreciate your time. come back. we'll go back to capitol hill and show you the picture outside of the election committee on benghazi. the cameras are there. you can see the podium in the background. that is where lawmakers will come and address after or before.

10:00 a.m. eastern time is when this will kickoff. cameras walking through the hallway from the capitol hill building. this is on the house side. the committee will begin the hearing at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. hillary clinton could be there answer questions for up to eight hours. and thetalk about this 2016 presidential race. we have a friend of hillary clinton. we get to that conversation after a short break. ♪

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this sunday night on q and a. new york times national political reporter amy chose a shares her experiences from hillary clinton's presidential campaign compares what it is like now to back in 2008. >> i was a lot younger. i was a traveling person. i was not in a senior role. when you're traveling all the the people to know who traveled with her, i got to know her pretty well because she would come into the back of the plated talk to us. at the same time, i did not have experience with high-level people. whether that is a function of the time are just being in a more senior role. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific. on c-span to q and a. >> washington journal continues. host: lenny davis is here with us. we will talk but hillary

clinton's testimony before the committee today. for the for the hill clinton administration from 1996-1998, to clarify for our viewers what your relationship with hillary clinton, and what your role is. guest: the easiest way to tell a long story is that i knew hillary before she was a clinton. hill -- bill clinton came to yell. my last year she was in her first year, we became close friends. host: you are a friend. are you officially with the campaign? guest: no, but i think they are doing a great job. she will be the next president. i'm happy to speak as a friend. i'm not speaking for her, i'm giving my own observation. host: are you unofficially communicating with her? unofficially i get facts on organization calls. once a while i will call the campaign to be sure it is

accurate. i do not give her advice. who has 17-year-old son known her since he was nine-month-old. we have seen here in new hampshire. host: the new york times put out support of hillary clinton a talking point ahead of the testimony today. and you received this talking point? guest: i received a fact sheet. i hate the expression talking point. talking points comply rhetoric. the only thing, as you will hear me today, i do facts that are not in dispute. republicansable for or the interpretation of facts, but i find that there is a correct record organization that gives me fax. when i get adjectives and adverbs they are not helpful. host: we will get to the testimony today, but ahead of her appearance, there is 1.5

hours vice president joe biden has said he will not seek presidency. what do you think about that decision? guest: first of all, every decision that is that important is personal, especially given what he and his family have been through with the tragic loss of his son. agonize knowing him since he was first elected back in 1972 when i first met him. he is a great man. he is a good man. confused by how long it took him to make this decision, but i think he really had to search his soul about whether he was really ready to do it. i respect his decision. host: this is usa today. now that biden has bowed out come clinton as strengthened on the nomination.

but say the president at the university said she has been waiting for all systems go, without joe biden writing she can concentrate all of her firepower on co-opting bernie sanders message and focusing on the fact that she can defeat the republicans. guest: that a zero -- opinion, it is not bad. it happens to be not based on facts. it does not change one iota whether or not he runs. she has the best field organization hired beginning in the primaries. i have been involved in presidential politics for 40 years. she is an extremely good position to be the nominee. bernie sanders has run a great race. i admire him greatly. we always expected competition. especially in iowa and new hampshire. if vice president joe biden had run we would've had even more

competition. i think hillary clinton will be the nominee no matter what. host: this is from the boston globe. they write can democrats find a democratic socialist acceptable? more than six people out of 10 voters first in the nation say it would be acceptable to have a democratic socialist president of the united states. host: i will be a little critical. -- guest: i always wanted to be a journalist. labels are labels. what is a democratic socialist? adverbs andi oppose adjectives and characterizations. i oppose it. what are the facts about bernie sanders? what are his opinions on issues? they are in the mainstream of the democratic party. there are disagreements between them, and they had a great debate. but, we're very close.

when you asked about the comparisons on issues i will tell you where we disagree. to label bernie sanders as a democratic socialist, those labels do not mean anything to me. i focus on facts. host: is he doing well? guest: absolutely. it is the issues, not the labels, they resonate with democrats. progressive democrats like me. i love bernie sanders, i love his message. i have a niece in california does is feel the burn, even though i feel she is supporting hillary clinton. we all admire the way he stood in thehe media and debate and said i am not going to engage in attacks on a relevant issues like e-mails. let's talk about the issues. i think the american people gave both bernie sanders and hillary clinton good marks for debating issues that they care about, as opposed to labels. host: let's talk about the e-mails. the benghazi investigation, you

wrote a piece for the hill. guest: i hope they read it. host: three questions they should ask, and why they probably will not. first, the congressman, every republican needs to tell me and the audience why you want to ask these three questions. number one -- did you think that secretary clinton in appointing an independent accountability review board, right after the benghazi action, promised to bring a former u.s. ambassador under president bush, a former president of the joint chiefs of staff staff, neither of them are partisan came out with a report and had 27 recommendations they call the state department performance part of a systemic failure. hillary clinton published the report and accepted responsibility. my question that they should ask , secretary clinton wanted you

do that? did you think the recommendations will prevent a future benghazi? number two. seven congressional committees investigated thoroughly this entire benghazi matter and tragedy for the last two years. two of them in the house of representatives. controlled by republicans. the house intelligence committee , and the house armed services committee. the house intelligence committee and the house armed services committee came out with extensive reports finding no intelligence failures leading up to the tragedy. second, no standdown order that caused the military not to execute these tragic individuals who were killed. third, this is very important because this information is constantly repeated. no exploitation by the white house or the secretary are

talking points. the actual phrase that was controversial, spontaneous demonstration triggered by anti-muslim protests in cairo. those written by the cia, they never changed in the 14 drafts of the talking point. so, congressman when you ask secretary clinton do you agree with house armed services those written by the cia, they nevercommittee and ine committee that my republican colleagues on all those issues, the third question, is or any relationship between the e-mails issue in the treasury benghazi? any relationship between the fact that you had to blackberries rather than one, and you owned a private server. does that have any relationship to the benghazi tragedy? if they asked those three questions i will see they care about the facts. today comeng in usa on october 7 you said the committee is breaking new

ground. he says perhaps our critics could lay out 41 new witnesses, seven eyewitnesses, 50,000 new documents and e-mails from the secretary of state and investor stephen. we could not. we will keep working until the last fact is uncovered. guest: you have to look at those numbers to see weather is accurate. congressman gaudi put out an e-mail saying that he contained a highly classified source that would reveal sources and methods of the cia. he put that out. within three days, the cia said no, that e-mail was not classified. so, trey gowdy said something publicly, a very serious charge that turned out to be false. therefore, we should doubt when we hear something like that. is it true? i am just saying we have reason to doubt it. , is he most importantly criticizing the chairman of the house intelligence committee,

and the chairman of the house armed services committee. republicans, he does not mention them when he says look at what we did. you me that they missed all that? you work for two years and public extent -- and published extensive research, thousands of pages of testimony, he never mentions trey gowdy, never mentions that republicans, if this were before him. he has to say i am better than they are because i found something new and they missed it. will he admit that? i will be interested. host: the phone lines are open. start dialing. we'll take your questions and comments about hillary clinton's campaign and her testimony this money. coming up in one hour. on the house side of the capital we have the committee on benghazi. we will get your calls in one minute. want to show our viewers this from the wall street journal. satisfied withot the answers that they are getting from hillary clinton.

her response to questions on the benghazi attacks, 44% are not satisfied. 27% satisfied. guest: i'm surprised there are many satisfied. this has been a one-way circus. only the voices of misinformation and partisan attacks. we all know that republicans have said the house majority leader has said this is all been about political attacks on hillary clinton. those numbers are reflected in the polls. the fact that i just said are not disputable. do the american people know that seven committees into two major republicans committees in the house have already cleared secretary clinton of any involvement in the starting point? of actually having no knowledge ahead of time, no intelligence breakdown of the benghazi tragedy. reflectionrs are a of the political attack, i will

say that we democrats have been absolutely defunded. more americans will never hear the fax. despitehers say that the investigation, the families of the four dead americans do not know the whole story yet, they do not know the facts. that is why they are doing investigation. do those for families deserve to know what happened? guest: absolutely. unfortunately those families may not have read the thousands of pages of the republicans house intelligence committee. armedpublicans house services committee. i will repeat this. everybody forgets his. today, i guarantee you that trey gowdy will say whatever he wants about what we discovered, but he will not say i'm criticizing the chairman, the republican chairman that has the committee. the family's should read those reports. some things cannot be known.

it is a tragedy if it was my son or family member, and the answers we do not know. they do not know why were better prepared. we did not have the information available to them services committee. a it was a terrible breakdown that cause these deaths. there is responsibility that hillary clinton's own accountability review board said systemic failure. she said i accept your recommendations, except irresponsibility. the two families that can say i was good all the answers, according to republicans, the intelligence community, we do not have the answers. it is a tragedy. host: howie, pennsylvania, a democrat. you are on the air. caller: good morning. in the interest of full disclosure i know that you knew hillary clinton. anyway, --

guest: she was in my summer camp. caller: can we get the republicans to pay for this wild goose chase? they are squandering millions of dollars. they are wasting money. tell the american public that this is a waste of money, we don't need to pay for it. we need the republican national committee are some branch of the republican body to pay for this wild goose chase. guest: thank you. nobody would want to hear me talk about that. i wish that we could ask republicans from their own campaign caucus to pay for this waste of time, unless trey gowdy is honest with the american people and he names of the members of the house intelligence services committee, i will keep repeating this. he has to do tell them by name, as a that you did not do a good job.

my committee has found something you did not. it is knowledge that it was the republicans who did not do a good job. , including thees senate intelligence committee, a former senator from georgia, joined with senator dianne feinstein including the obama havingte department of any manipulation or any exploitation of those talking points for so, i do point that congressman gaudi who has set up secretly aipac to help the campaign that has put an attack ad against hillary clinton, but the transparent, that was your pack. it was your people, putting an attack ad about hillary clinton. pay for this out of your own money that you have paid for, or at least helped paid for the advertisements that are being shown that are politically aimed at hillary clinton. i think there are five other

members who needed to is the question, are you criticizing the republicans investigated this? yes or no. if the question is that you are not ready to answer, you should pay for this. host: on the line, a republican. caller: i would like to say how hypocritical it is to spend all this time investigating an incident when the nation of libya is totally destroyed. people are in chaos. the organization is completely destroyed. people are being rushed off into europe from libya. from this thing that we actually did. we destroyed a stable country. host: there is a headline in the paper yesterday. they have a unity government fell apart yesterday in libya. i certainly give you your right to your opinion. i appreciate the fact that you're a republican and you see that it is in the critical.

it is very republican partisan. but, when you say that we destroyed a stable government, we destroyed nothing. the people of libya during the arab spring revolted against a dictator named gaddafi who was personally responsible for exploding an airplane over scotland that is a terrorist act that destroyed and killed hundreds of americans. so, if you ignore that the people of libya who, during the arab spring, revolted against a dictator who killed americans in that fair miss terrorist incident of bombing a pan am flight, then you are ignoring the facts. you are letting a very tragic secureon, and i agree, a -- obscure what really happened. it was gaddafi, the dictator, it was the people who revolted.

was nato, not the united states that had european planes led by france and england that conducted the era tax to conduct the revolts against the dictator. the united states supported nato. everybody except hillary clinton and barack obama, in nato especially england and france had the attacks to support the revolt against the dictator and terrorist. host: tom, a republican, kentucky. you are on the air. caller: excuse me. i got a little bit nervous. comment, i am 66, i'm an insurance agent. thatcense says basically makemiss lead or if i somebody assume, or twist something, then i can lose my

interest license. i think i should be held just like everybody else, any politician, whatever. the question i have to ask is, we go on about the seven committees that went through and done all these things, but he overs out that yesterday 1000 e-mails got ambassador stevens e-mails was just delivered. and thent stonewall call everything that proves it is misleading, it is twisting. host: can we get a response echoed -- response? guest: thank you for your comment. the congressman put out a press release in which he said in a e-mail that contained the name of a cia agent or members of the

intelligence committee who is so sensitive that the staff of his committee redacted his name, they typed on sources investigating. the cia said that is false. the individual you redacted is a published name. not a classified source. sources, you wrote about the warning in danger of lies. read,owdy not only miss he was careless in putting the press release out contradicting the cia. let's start with that. he has still not apologize for that stupid error. i'm not saying it was intentional, it would have been embarrassing. we are dealing with the arrival of these recent e-mails. i have not read them, neither have you. let's see if there was something that was missed.

if there was a something missed in the e-mails, start by blaming the republican committee. but not just talk about hillary clinton, then you will not be misleading people if you say, you are right there was a house armed service committee, there was an intelligence committee controlled by, dominated by republicans. they took two years to investigate everything. they may have missed the e-mails, but let's see what is in them first. if they miss something, at least you should not incriminate people. this is not just about hillary clinton. it is about republican committees. lots of people have looked at this and done their very best. canhey did something, i assure you that the republicans were not trying to score points. for what theying could do to fix the situation. people should remember that it was a republican committee that cleared the state department and the white house committee. host: kerry is next from north

carolina. why were you in benghazi 2012? caller: i was on a security force for special detail. for security in that area. we're going to the embassy i got attacked. host: what was your role? caller: sergeant major over security platoon probably about two miles away from the embassy. , i do know for a fact -- host: are you there you go -- there you go -- there? you were interrupted. caller: we were called to stand

down from a certain individual. it was because they did not the attack was coming, they thought was a peaceful demonstration. for remindingou everybody that the charge that there is a standout order has been contradicted and refuted by every single congressional committee led by republicans who examined exactly that question. i will ask you to read, as i have the full armed services committee out in the chair by republicans. they issued a report, and the full report of the intelligence all thee that is intelligence agencies, as well as the department of defense. , everybody, defense everyone of those committees written by republicans denied

what you just said. so, i'm not disputing that that is your opinion. give a right to it, but at least open your mind to what republican committees, not democrats have said exactly the subject rather repeated charge at there was a standout order has beenthe repeated charge hasn contradicted by republican committees. host: from missouri, donna, independent collar. caller: good morning. a couple things. i will be praying today that these republicans who are so afraid of her winning that they will fall today. second the republicans on these committees have been leaking cherry picked and so out of -- cherry picked information out of context and then you have kevin mccarthy saying the entire thing was designed to bring down her poll numbers. they are just getting repulsive. you don't care about what is going on in this country at all.

all they care about is bringing down obama and now hillary. why can't they win on their own merit and their own ideas? show you andlet me others what trey gowdy had to say about political motivation on face the nation this last weekend. [video clip] at the facts. we have done 50 witnesses, one of whom you could argue with related to her enough, and that was the shortest interview we have done. only 5% of them have anything to do with hillary clinton. she is an important witness, but she is one witness, and by the time we are through we will have interviewed 70 witnesses. she is one out of the 70, i guess that she gets more attention than the other 69, but frankly, if you ask me, the eyewitnesses on the grounds that benghazimy ghazi -- in

are more important than the former secretary of state. prosecutor, who said that this is a political committee, wouldn't that be enough? actually there is no evidence, there are three people who don't have any idea what they are talking about, two of my colleagues such as the two republican members of the , they could not name three witnesses we have talked to. they could not tell you a single document production that we have received. and the former staffer left in june so he has no idea what we have done since june, and this allegation about secretary clinton, he never said until he sat down with someone in your profession last friday. these three would not even be called as a witness because they have no firsthand knowledge. host: mr. davis? just heard, we reclaims and rhetoric by a man who has spoken falsely and cannot deny it.

release justress recently in which he declared that they found an e-mail that contained highly classified information compromising sources what hee cia repudiated said. does you knowledge that he got that wrong? another fact. has beenumenthal friends for with many years to secretary linton and bill clinton, in front of him for a deposition that mr. blumenthal asked to make up -- to be made public for 10 hours. in 10 hours, the tragedy of benghazi came up for a few minutes out of 10 hours. fact. abadeen, an aid to secretary clinton, who knew virtually nothing about benghazi , and i get it refused to publish the deposition. why? he can't deal with the fact that

these republican committees contradict what he is saying. he gives you numbers, he gives you rhetoric, but he does not deal with facts. to show our viewers the committee room, our camera is now allowed to take life shot from the committee room pillory -- committee room. hillary clinton will be coming in a little after 11:00 a.m. and of course there is a big line outside of that committee hearing, folks that have been lined up. early. they want to get in and have a seat, reporters as well be in there. our cameras will be in there. we will continue this discussion throughout today's washington journal leading up to 10:00 a.m. when the house gobbles in. -- when the house gavels and -- in. our coverage of today's hearing on mcguffey will be over on c-span3. you'll be able to watch it there and if you're are unable to tune into the television you can always go to our website,

c-span.org. you can even watch it on your phone because it is mobile friendly. you can also listen on c-span radio and we are also on fm sirius.-- fm you can also get the app, c-span radio app and watch on c-span3 and he will be up to listen and watch it there. i want to show you with the washington times has been together. line of questioning they say republicans will be asking hillary clinton. first, personnel on the ground in libya had asked for security -- for more security and those requests were not filled. who made those decisions? have a the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi at that point in september 2012? the state department with the first to publicly blame and anti-islam video as the spark for the attack of the real-time intelligence on the ground did not make that link.

why did the department reach that conclusion? what did mrs. clinton do on the night of the attack, and what was her role in formulating the administration's response? finally, did mrs. clinton's e-mails contain information that could not have been sent over an insecure system, and that she personally review all messages? first of all, those questions are valid i hope they are asked. hillary clinton commissioned ,hat study and published it except in all the recommendations to correct those failures for the future. she took responsibility. i hope the trey gowdy -- that trey gowdy will state that fact --. -- there is a

misstatement of fact in one of those questions which is remarkable given the amount republicans have contradicted the assertion. this statement about the origins of this tragedy, that it began with spontaneous program -- protests triggered by an anti-muslim video, was originally written -- this is an undisputed fact, nobody can dispute this -- originally written by the cia. the cia said that they had -- the committees of congress said they had -- and if you reread the third question it will say why did those mischaracterizations of the origin begin in the state department? , whichgnored fact ignored republican findings, ignored with the cia said, just as trey gowdy ignored sensitive information? politicians, especially those identified by their fellow republicans as out to hurt hillary clinton, i did not say

that. that is what kevin mccarthy said. listen for facts and ask yourself, is county referring to the other republican -- dowdy -- dy referring to the other republican committees and criticizing them? and if he is, i would like to hear him say that on camera. host: oregon, ron, a republican. you are next, sir. caller: hillary says, what does it matter? well, for lives mattered. she was the one you had her own server. why? to hide them. she is a clinton. a lot of people can turn their back and pretend that did not happen, but it did. those questions need to be answered and she needs to answer them. that's all i have to say. guest: i hope you are watching my reply. first of all you are entitled to your opinion of hillary clinton. you obviously don't like her, that is your right. but what you can do is make up facts.

hillary clinton was not responsible for those talking points that has been the subject of so much animus bipartisan republicans. and that is republicans making those findings. secondly, when it comes to taking responsibility for what happened, she certainly did take responsibility according to her own report, as i have mentioned. confirmedy, you just that the e-mail topic may be controversial, and she already admitted that it was a mistake. but what you can't say, even though you may have just implied it, is that any use of the or to blackberries rather than one to send e-mails lost to a secretary of state, those are the two issues -- using two devices rather than ,ne device to send out e-mails and the use of the private server.

you cannot say truthfully, and that eitheras said, of those two issues which he said were a mistake, had anything to do with the tragedy of benghazi. somebody asked a question regarding e-mails. they are admitting today if they are republicans that they are asking about a political topic aimed at hurting hillary clinton but not at discovering the importance of what went wrong and -- that cost of these lives. host: chairman trey gowdy in the ,ommittee room right now getting prepared for the testimony, the questioning that will be taking place in less than an hour up on capitol hill. away from the nation's capital, that is where the hearing will take place and we expect hillary clinton to be in that chair for eight hours. lanny davis, what do you make of that? the time she will be taking questions? guest: there was one point

during the debate where the guys ,ad a break from all the coffee she was a little bit longer coming back and she had a chance to comment. she said you know, it takes us a little bit longer, which i think most females that was funny. eight hours is a long time. she is that it before, she will do it again. i hope they give her a break. but this is what you are going to get from hillary clinton. you heard a prior reviewer mentioned, what difference does it make? he knows that that comment was not about the death of four americans. he knows it means what difference does it make, we should be focused on the death of four americans and why that happened, not who wrote the talking points. that is what difference it makes. that viewer did not knowingly mislead people are saying what difference does it make -- i'm sure he did not read the full context of what she said.

she said, we should be focusing on why these four americans were killed. but i can tell you that republicans intentionally take what difference does it make and stop there, and then use it as if she is referring to the death of four americans. adsblican partisans put up taken out of context, that is intentionally misleading people, and that is wrong. host: what do you know about the preparation for today? guest: i don't know anything other than remembering how she studied in law school and how she has conducted herself over the years, and how she has doetimes warned me when i television, stick with the fact and avoid your attitude. she think second carried away once in a while and she is right. the way she approaches every issue since i have known her 46 years ago is facts, facts, facts, do your homework. study hard. .hatever happens happens i can assure you she will be

well prepared today like she was taking an exam at yale law school. host: in ohio, and, democrat. good morning. morning.ood number one, i think hillary clinton did a great job as secretary of state, this is really the only issue that they had to show for. two, we lost 4000 .omething troops over in iraq bush's brother said it was a mistake. they never did an investigation, and indifference, president in deference, president obama never opened an investigation into president bush and where he got his information.

for lives are important, but how they have gone after bill clinton. it was like watching an x-rated starr, it was the most disgusting thing that i have ever heard or seen. they don't care. they don't care if they are disgusting or despicable, and that is my opinion. host: ok. mr. davis? guest: first of all, i appreciate your positive comments about secretary clinton, but i hate to see a democrat and a loyalist to secretary clinton do the same thing to president bush that you just said was done to bill clinton, in the bogus investigation of whitewater which led to nothing but led to headlines, hyper frenzied media coverage. to zero, even ken starr said there was nothing there regarding whitewater and illegal

conduct by the clintons. what you just said about president bush is entirely .nfair and untrue most people in the government and intelligence agencies for sure, in the clinton white house as well as the bush white house, believed that that hussein had weapons of mass destruction. i think the decision to go to war in iraq was wrong, and i thought about the time. but it is one thing to say it was wrong with the wisdom of hindsight and it is another thing to declare that george bush did something intentionally to harm the country, and he did not. he sincerely believes that taking out saddam hussein would be the best way. so he was told by the intelligence agency was a good thing. it turned out there were no weapons of mass destruction. all of us were misled. but i think it is better to say somebody is wrong been to impugn their motives. host: we go to peggy in west

virginia, go ahead. caller: hi. i'm glad that last comment was just made because i think it is toeresting that you allude the cia, all the information from president bush as being misleading. but in this instance, where all the information from the , welligence was misleading are saying oh, the cia lied. clearly they live, they lied and they are lying. how can all the people on this -- on the ground have the same story but the people at the top do not? i understand your passion and your admiration for hillary clinton, but when you take a woman who has been surrounded by congress -- controversy since and stand there and staunchly defend her when they are still just now receiving stashedthat she did --

away on a server and said she did not have, how can you say this investigation should not be ongoing? first of all, i respect your opinion. there is some emotion in your opinion and i respect that. it is one thing to have an opinion and it is another thing to ignore facts. the first fact to ignore it is when you say that the intelligence agencies lied. it are hard-working, patriotic savee who are trying to people's lives by anticipating the 11. if they get something wrong it is because they have multiple who areon the ground trying to get something right. if they got something wrong that is different than saying they lied. if you don't know the difference between a lie and a mistake then i feel sorry that you use the word lie so loosely because that is an intentional misrepresentation.

to suggest the cia did anything intentionally is, in my opinion, unfair. secondly, we just had stay with the facts. you mentioned all her i am sure you include eight years of controversy about whitewater. $70 million headlines, back to back scandals. forget the name which is ken starr's successor, found no wrongdoing by clinton. don't omit that what you state an opinion because then i think you are fully yourself. either you are sincere but it is an absolute fact that all of and theut benghazi facts on hillary clinton have been contradicted by republican committee chairman. you omitted that fact. if there are new e-mails that were omitted by republicans on the armed services committee and thed new light --

accountability review board, and that was not democrats and not , 18isans but professionals u.n. ambassador under the first president bush -- if they did not get it all and begin something new out of trey gowdy i will certainly be glad. but please, respecting your youions, understand that hold the fact that your own mind to convince you of things. , former whitevis house special counsel in the clinton administration and a longtime friend of hillary clinton. with you for talking up -- us this morning. and take a look outside where hillary clinton will be testifying in about 45 minutes. the activity has grown, a lot more people outside of the hearing room. ,edia and lawmakers gathering and the members of the public who want to get inside.

to hear the questions she is asked by the members of the select committee. we are going to get your thoughts on the investigation coming up right after this short break. i first wa to show you what some of the photos standing in line -- folks standing in line had to say about why they are there. we are here for a couple reasons. we recently moved here to we have andc and .nterest to get involved specifically i am an attorney but i do more work on the data and software side, so even though some of it is tangential we look ating today, issues from the standpoint of , particularlyg

within the government sector. come and wanted to just be a spectator. atjust being a spectator event like this is fascinating and a great opportunity so we decided to get up early and see what it is all about. >> what would you like to hear from secretary clinton today? >> i don't actually come in with any preconceived opinions. there is certainly no shortage of them around. transparency and forthrightness are probably what .e are interested in probably i would be most interested in seeing reasonableness and fairness on both sides of the equation. >> i would agree. really it has become such a

spectacle. i would like to see how it turns out. >> thank you. the: those were some of folks standing in line early this morning to hear the testimony of hillary clinton when she walks into that room on your screen. a committee hearing up on the house side of the capital, steps away from the capital. select committee on benghazi. the lawmakers that settlement panel will be gathering. that will be the chairman, trey gowdy, republican of south carolina. mike pompeo from kansas. martha roby from alabama. rossum from illinois and lynn westmoreland from georgia. the democrats on that panel, elijah cummings, ranking member from maryland. adam smith of washington state, , the ranking democrat

from armed services. linda sanchez, and tammy duckworth. they will all be asking questions. so we want to get your thoughts on this. republicans start dialing in, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independence, (202) 748-8002. inside the committee room. just set the scene. what is it like to be inside? >> it is kind of a building crescendo of excitement. chairman trey gowdy has already popped his head out to look around and see what is now limited to reporters and some ticketed aids, also some other members have already specter had that. is just outside the room

already a long line of the public, people wanting to get in but without the press or government passes. it is turning into quite the spectacle. for the what is it like print media inside? what is the setup like? of seatsare two wings of about eight team each on both sides. really nothing but the back of people's heads. the other reporters, there are about 20 good seats right behind where the former secretary and presidential candidate will be sitting. they will not see her face or expressions, so that will be quite -- kind of interesting. of course there are waves of reporters at home watching this on tv. host: our cameras are inside the hearing room and we will up to get several different angles and

shots as this hearing takes place. what are you expecting for questioning? thate of the key aspects we know the republicans are going to go after is whether there was some security at the in the u.s. mission in benghazi, whether they were asking for more security. none of this has really been publicly proven, and we don't know what e-mails may be that we don't have, or other communications might indicate that. but the chairman, trey gowdy, has suggested that he wants to a winding downas of security at the same time ambassador stevens was asking for more. host: go ahead. >> and then also in talking last night with panel member and westmoreland, he said any be shyon that they would

about going after some content as e-mails is a recent miss misstatements by republicans is not going to happen. they are going to ask her about e-mails. her e-mail use and private server will be a topic. host: what is the committee aboutg you this morning information they have maybe that is new, information they have received in recent days? what is new today. receive >> a batch of new e-mails, we don't really know what is in those yet. they have not been published, the question is whether or not there were actual communications suggesting that helpneeded extra security leading up in the months or maybe year leading up to the attacks, the september 11, 2012 attacks.

so i think that will be the initial emphasis and i think much of that is going to be fostered by e-mails. billy house, do we know if any family members of the four americans that died will be attending today's hearing? >> that is a very good question. i don't know. some of theme -- have made public statements that they are upset about the politicization of this whole , underscored by misstatements by some republicans including kevin mccarthy. i don't know if they're going to be here. but at the same time we are all on the lookout for them. 10:00 a.m. this gets underway, that is at about -- in about 30 minutes. there are seven republicans

on the panel and five democrats. my understanding is there will be an opening statement by the , perhaps trey gowdy, some statements from other members on both sides, and then an opening statement by former secretary clinton. then they will begin their first round of questioning. one republican first, for about 10 minutes, followed by democrat. then they will go through the entire panel. trey gowdy, a former solicitor, which is a prosecutor in south .arolina, wants to go last they say he likes to do that because he likes to absorb what has been asked and said and formulate his own questions. so there would be that initial round, and we are told that he could go as many as four or five .ounds if you add this up it could be a nine hour event. host: all right. billy house, correspondent at

bloomberg news. we appreciate your time. you towe turned all of get your thoughts, you were just looking at the former congressman, tom davis, from virginia. he has a seat in the hearing room. we will see who else notable is .oing to be in that begins in 30 minutes and at that point you will want to tune in to c-span3, because that is where we'll be showing today is testimony of former secretary of state. if you cannot watch on tv you have many other options available to you. you can listen to c-span radio, we have a local station here in washington but we also have xm, or you can go to c-span.org. you can also get the c-span app on your phone. we are showing it on your screen

now, all you have to do is click on c-span3. hillary clinton could be there for up to eight hours, for -- 4-5 rounds. we just heard that trey gowdy will go last. roger in michigan, a republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i was just wondering, they keep admits that it is her fault and self like that, so why are they doing all this? .he already admitted it make of peopleou who say that these families still don't know who, what, when, where, why. caller: but she admits that it was her fault corrects? host: i think during her

testimony in january, 2013 before the senate foreign relations committee she said -- she took responsibility as the qatari estate. do you remember those hearing started did you watch? caller: yes. remember what she said, a lot of people say what difference does it make? caller: yeah, i caught that. i don't believe in that. i was just wondering. it seems weird. host: i want to show you that moment from january 2013 as i want to show you a little bit more than you may be good to see from other outlets, because it starts with questioning from ron johnson, a republican from wisconsin. he is asking the secretary of state, why didn't you just pick up the phone while this violence was unfolding, to find out really, from the people on the ground, what happened? here is that exchange. [video clip] >> we know that there were

supposedly protest and an assault spring out of bed. you are saying that that is not the fact, and the american people could have known that within days and they did not know that. on: with all do respect, dead americans. what difference at this point doesn't make? job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. honestly, i will do my best to answer your questions, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the fact. explainsa process that how these talking points came clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today, looking backward, as to why these militants decided to get in and

ring them to justice, and then maybe we will figure out what was going on in to meantime. hillary clinton back in 2013 which he testified before the senate foreign relations .ommittee about benghazi she will be back up on capitol hill to testify again. "the washington post" this morning reports this. virtually all of the benghazi select committee's attention has focused on the lack of security at the benghazi diplomatic compound, only ambassador stevens and shawn smith's -- sean smith were killed there. both died of smoke inhalation well seeking refuge in his wasn't safe room. the two other americans who were killed, but security contractors, were hit by mortar fire in an attack about seven hours later at a nearby cia where u.s. intelligence

agents, at a separate mission, were based. the cia contingent had far more protection, including heavily armed private american security guards. mike in connecticut, a democrat. hi there. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. on the subject of investigations and the lack of assistance, i 2003 when thek to bush administration decided to invade iraq. the army chief of staff troops in400,000 plus order to commit the in -- complete the initial invasion and stabilize the country. the bush administration decided that he would only need -- the army would only need 135,000.

what happened in that case was, they did not have adequate troops to control the situation after the invasion. i think it is similar to benghazi in that they did not , thend adequately administration did not, to the situation. , pauly after we went in broun art was assigned as the so-called governor. his first edict was, as you remember -- host: are you making a comparison here between benghazi and direct? caller: i am. they did not have adequate protection for the troops. they did not have enough troops to do the job. host: i hear your point on that. , are is elijah cummings

ranking democrat, taking his seat in the chair and preparing for hillary clinton when she makes her way into the committee room. take a look at the timeline. september 11, 2012 is when it occurred. ambassador stevens and three others were killed. september 18, 2012, an independent review was released initiated by the former secretary of state. she is up on capitol hill on january 23 to testify. and in may 2014 is when this select committee is created. in june of 2014 is what a suspect is captured and charged with the violence and the killings of those for americans. we are getting your thoughts this morning, waiting for this testimony to begin. as we told you, the lines for getting into the hearing room began at 7:30 this morning. take a look at one person told c-span -- at what one person

told c-span about why they are here. michael, i am from san francisco. i had some free time visiting alexandria so i thought i would come by and see a little bit of history in the making. >> what are you expecting to hear from secretary clinton? >> i expect her to put up a good fight and show some of the strength and her positions that she showed at previous committee hearings. strong oner to stand what she knows to be true and hopefully not get diverted by the politics. >> thank you. host: you can see there on your screen it looks like cardinal , they areert presumably to hear what the former secretary of state has to say. he is not one of the seven republicans who are on this

are sevenre republicans. five democrats. in more than 50 witnesses have been interviewed according to the committee. joan, massachusetts, independent. hi. caller: thank you for going through that timeline. one of the things that i was really surprised to find out about yesterday in "the wall street journal" was that secretary clinton went home in the evening of the compound was attacked. i'm really surprised that she left the state department while the compound was being attacked. i also wanted to say was that as far as lanny davis is concerned about the amount of time that secretary clinton has to be in this hearing, they should keep in mind that is roughly the same amount of time that the compound was unaided. those that really

wants some detail about the benghazi timeline you can go to factcheck.org. they have put a very specific -- with times -- date and time line together. if that is something that you want while you are listening today, you can to look as a reference at what happened when, what the reaction was, when hillary clinton said when. is part from this timeline they note that at about 10:00 p.m. secretary of state issued a statement confirming that one state official was killed in the which sm -- msnbc posted at 10:32 p.m. obama labels in

an act of terror, not terrorism. andton condemned the attack praise the heroes. she again references anti-muslim video in a similar language. that is the timeline. about september 16 that somebody from the administration talks about this not being a video that an act of terrorism. we are told secretary clinton should be arriving at any time. and that in chicago heights, illinois, republican. what do you think? what is on your mind? caller: confusion. i voted sure because differently. for some reason it seems to me they need to hype up the situation about hillary clinton, more so the bad things. like the moste credible presidential candidate

in this entire race, who cares about every day, middle-class working people. herink if the media cut some slack like they do donald trump, who is very divisive, who is talking about people, immigrants, he is going to put them on a boat and pack them in like animals that need to go --k to their own country calling barack obama a muslim and all kind of names. the media is responsible in my opinion for making the situation really bad ear and -- for making the situation really bad. host: let's hear from mary in philadelphia, and democrat. caller: i have several questions for the benghazi committee, from isis to trey gowdy, and they have never answer the questions. i am posing these questions on the air.

did ambassador stevens have a problem with his security force hethe time, and is this why had questions regarding the security that stood down while the embassy was being attacked? the conservative groups and the political action groups then that was that video forwarded to those muslim countries, it says the video photographer was prosecuted. since these people aided and abetted the crime, how come they were never prosecuted? host: ok. we are getting a look inside the outsidee room, those presumably into the , theyg room right there

want to get access into that room to hear what she is going to say. from the washington post this morning they say this. is diplomatic compound always the poor child of the state department, stove -- frozen specifically by ambassador stephen. it had no permanent staff, is that handful of security and dramatic personnel from tripoli rotated in and out well state department decided what to do with it. don, houston texas, democrat. you are on the air. caller: i have a statement to make. in200 people were killed iraq on lies by the bush administration. nothing has ever happened to any of those people who perpetrated that line.

now they are on hillary like flies, and i better cut it off. that we know the end to one. of, and at instead republican. -- mary in and island, a republican. obama isresident running on the platform that benghazi is dead and al qaeda is dead. when that happens they could not admit that it was terrorists that attacked that compound, and .hey had sent reinforcements i guess because that did not go with the lines and al qaeda was dead. i have one more thing i want to say about this. if hillarynton -- clinton's daughter had been in that compound, if president obama's daughters had been in that compound, they would have been coming in first instead of

abandoning those people. one, or clinton, neither cares about those. host: this is from fox news, it says, in the year leading up to the 2012 attacks -- let me positive knowledge that the sick -- that the secretary of state is making her way down the hallway. saying hello to the media that is gathered outside there. she will be stepping into the hearing room momentarily for testimony taking place and about 15 minutes. you can probably see her shake the hands of the lawmakers that make up this committee, seven .epublicans, five democrats she will be sitting in the chair for potentially up to eight hours. four or five rounds of questioning. each member can ask her questions, and then her response on top of that. she could be there until 6 p.m. or later. and of course our coverage on c-span3 and about 15 minutes.

we will stick with the room and your calls, getting your calls on today's hearing in the investigation. over on c-span3 is where we will be carrying the hearing, that is because of course the house will be gaveling in at 10 a clock a.m.and we will -- 10:00 and we will bring you that. you can also watch and listen in other ways. you can tune into c-span radio, we are on serious act -- serious xm and you can also tune into c-span.org or you can at -- app,the c-span where you can listen to what the questions and answers are. tap on c-span3 and listen

to it there on any device that you have. this hearing about to get underway here shortly. megan, knoxville, tennessee, independent. yes.r: i have a question. i am just really confused. about the question why they did not increase the security of the compound, it is my the budget ofthat the state department from the sequester was cut, roughly 10% of their budget, and then they asked to be able -- for the authority to be able to move their money from one account to the other and that was also denied by the house of representatives. so i guess i was thinking, maybe i got the timeline wrong. host: -4.6 million dollars is what i

believe has been spent already. that is absolutely nothing compared to the $19 trillion were talking about in debt. i just would like to throw that out there. it is a drop in the bucket. to the ranking democrat, there is with his back to us talking to some folks there. you have also seen the linda sanchez democrat from california sitting down to take her seat. ofo shift, democrat california. aggie, in castle in virginia, democrat.

>> democrats and republicans neither dispute that. no, they are him responsible. no one -- nothing matters. thank you. room,also in the democrat, i just saw her there taking a seat there. lisa, republican. hello. i feel the problem is communication. left, thes right and issue is, and mostly on the left, i am a republican, is denied, and dismiss. -- tonight and dismiss. deny and dismiss.

questions, you answer the questions. it has got to stop somewhere. robert is an independent in virginia, robert, good morning, you are on the air. thatr: i have just noticed during the first hearing on the --ack in libya, secretary lindsey graham pointed out that the defense secretary, should have been more of a military in libya, notg suggesting that secretary clinton needed to have a response, but it should have been more of a military response because the embassy was coming under attack. host: perl, oklahoma city.

the meeting on benghazi with secretary clinton. your thoughts. money. we spent all that we learned a lot. what has been done on the future who are assigned in that area? host: you want to know what is going to be done for those that ?re there now can mark caller surely, someone has implemented steps for security of others. host: take it never seats on the pompeocan side -- mike from kansas. members of the select committee. their seven total. five democrats. they will each get a round up to to fivequestions --

questions. there inlinton already a holding room. theis making her way to doorway right there in the hallway. she will be coming out in a moment now. onwant to say to our viewers c-span3. you will to get to watch the room. you'll get to see it as it unfolds and as the gavel comes down. we are going to keep your calls for a few more minutes until the house gavels in the legislative session. we'll do what we do come and bring you live coverage of the house. we'll go to our next in massachusetts. an independent. good morning.

caller: good morning. officer, as i watched the hearings, she has been above forward with her answers. the problem is that the security has always been there. they just did not secure it when she came in. they have always been there. host: you feel like she has been as honest as she could be? americans, 44%, not forsfied with the questions hillary clinton. when it comes to the investigation, 36% find it 22% find it fair.

michael infrom florida. as we talked you michael, we see the chairman making his way into the committee. caller: i am hoping someone on the committee will address the as tont in the room whether communications were between obama and clinton during the attack. i think the country would like to know that the president of the united states has never mentioned what is the prime mover. i hope he gets information. thank you. .ost: thank you michael in florida, democrat, dennis, you are on the air. as he kept ma'am, talking about an issue of a standdown, i think they were much more cynical and cows than

that. instead of giving a standdown order, the reputed to respond at all. did nothing. go, fill you to but what they did with the conversation hillary and obama on the phone, i guess recently went to bed and let it lie. it was a cold, calculated political response on the part of the white house and him -- and hillary and the president. we are waiting for former secretary of state to make her way out of the holding room and into the committee. speaking to the former secretary of state, she will make her way into the committee room and they away, onl in, seconds

what happened in gaza, libya. questions and answers. here becauseto end the house is going to gavel in. we will bring you live coverage of the house as they are about to gavel in for the legislative session. thanks for watching. er. the clerk: the speaker's rooms, washington, d.c. october 22, 2015. i hereby appoint the honorable charles j. fleischmann to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 6,