discusses women working in low-wage jobs. >> let's be frank. the house is broken. we are not solving problems, we are adding to them. and i'm not interested in laying blame. we are not settling scores. we are wiping the slate clean. ♪ this morning on the "washington journal," we want to hear from you about all i'm being elected speaker of the house. the youngest speaker in 150 years. he is 45 years old. republicans, call (202) 748-8001 , democrats, call (202) 748-8000

, independents, call (202) 748-8002. you can also make a comment via social media. or you canspanwj, send an e-mail to journal@c-span.org. page of the "washington times," ryan takes gavel, promises clean slate. appealing for clean slate as gavel changes hands. although it's an unusual time for his party in the house, mr. ryan situation has a few historical echoes. things could be worse.

host: that's a little bit from the "new york times." paul ryan elected speaker. republicans, call (202) 748-8001 , democrats, call (202) 748-8000 , and independents, call (202) 748-8002. he says let's hope he stays true to the republican party's and its values and gets the dissolution passed without the drama called by losey. -- caused by nancy pelosi. he needs to use this majority to pass legislation. andrew says divisive, arrogance, kind of dumb, big jerk.

we met him in his vp bid and didn't like him. a greatys he is communicator, he will keep the house in order and a cobbler's great things we have a republican president beginning january 2017. if you want to make a comment and join your conversation on facebook, facebook.com/c-span. in's begin with dee lymington texted -- lymington, texas. caller: i vote for the person. been a new day in washington, and i hope the kid has enough guts to slap them down and make them behave. stir up the rebels into working instead of promoting themselves. he has a rough job ahead of himself. i wish him all the best. i'm praying for him. dee in livingston,

texas. george is up next from atlanta, georgia on the republican line. caller: i'm just really excited about paul ryan getting in. i feel like he is going to be a shit in your mouth? host: let's look at paul ryan's acceptance speech. ryan: we need to make some changes. starting with how the house does business. we need to let every member contribute, not once they earned their stripes, but now. job with thes two-time committee chair. the committee should take the lead in drafting all major legislation. [applause]

paul ryan: if you know the issue, you should write the bill. open up the process, let people participate. they may change the mind. and neglected minority will gum up the works. minority will work in good faith. instead of trying to stop the majority, they may try to become the majority. we need to return to regular order. the "washington post," paul ryan wins the support after a closed-door vote. daniel webster of florida who had a following among staunch conservatives --

host: sandra at bowling green's, south carolina. say?do you want to caller: i'm proud of him, i just hope he keeps everyone in consideration. the whole world, everything. host: what do you mean by that? well, government is a big thing. straight, get things and when they make the decisions , the decision should be made for everyone. all, everything, not just a certain issue. everything should be considered. host: thank you. back to the "washington post," article. saying goodbye thursday, john boehner says he leaves the house is the same regular guy that came there.

he recited a list of his accomplishments, including passing major spending cuts ending earmarks, and reserving the d.c. school voucher program. host: from the "hill," newspaper, the senate approves the budget deal in a 3:00 a.m. vote. it raises the debt ceiling.

toy send the agreement president obama's desk. the deal was approved in a 64-35 vote after 3:00 a.m. after late speech from senator rand paul, who criticize the legislation as a blank check for president obama to add to the nation's debt. -- both sides of the aisle would have what i call sacred cows. on the right they have a sacred cow of military contracts, the left wants more welfare. adding should we give congress more money? hell no. few other senators seemed interested, as they had to ask them to keep it down so that he could speak. democrat from minnesota tweeted her dissatisfaction, arguing the gop presidential candidate was simply seeking attention for his campaign. 35 republicans oppose the deal, including senators pat toomey

and ron johnson, who are facing tough reelection battles and blue leaning states next year. legislation clears the cattle -- the calendar of mutual fistfights -- major physical fights after the elections. it goes on to say that senator lindsey graham was the only gop presidential contender to vote for the package. senators ted cruz, rand paul, and marco rubio all against it. that's from "the hill." let's go back to your calls on paul ryan. samuel in north pole, alaska. independent line. caller: thank you for having me on. paul ryan is no different than any other mainstream elected official. there will be no change in this country until someone can take on the military-industrial complex. paul ryan supports more military spending, and that's bankrupting

our nation both morally and financially. we have to put a stop to the blank check to the pentagon. we have to put a stop to these wars, with her will be no change for the better of our country. -- or there will be no change. it's time to rein in the blank check we get to the pentagon. agency isal security spying on every single american in this country, that is a violation of what this country stands for. until someone like rand paul, god bless his heart, at least he has the courage to take that on. we need to change this, sir. host: where is north full, alaska? alaska? pole, caller: itself of fairbanks, just a few miles south of eielson air force base, where they shoot artillery off all my long. a more massive waste of our wealth that has been stolen from us.

says -- davids says we should sport -- support terrorism. pole,that samuel in north alaska. this is george in connecticut. caller: my name is george, i'm from milford, connecticut. is that -- i'mg glad he got in. but i am a senior, and i'm a little bit tired of not getting cost-of-living raises. i have been paying and since i was 16 years old. and now i'm told him not going to get a raise because the gas prices come down. i guess we're supposed to stop eating and paying our bills and drink gas. everyone in washington gets their raise, why can't we get ours? is disgusting they are treating seniors that way, and i think

it's very disgusting that we are not taking care of our soldiers coming back from iraq, iran. look how long it took them to recognize all the guys from vietnam. this country is owned by big business, and congress runs it. it doesn't make a difference who is in that white house. thank you for listening to me. david in chester land, ohio. david, go ahead. republican. about thee comment is appropriations that were just put forward to get us through until next november. i were in debtr 10 years earnings, we would be advised to not spend a nickel until we had forensic people look into our finances before we were able to do anything going forward. if the dollar fails, none of these other issues are going to matter.

that's my comments, thank you for your show. host: paul ryan, after he was elected speaker, he gave a speech. here's a little bit more. [video clip] but ryan: i can't help think of something harry truman once said. the day after frank and roosevelt died, truman became president. he told a group of reporters -- if you ever pray, pray for me now. when they told me yesterday what had happened, i felt like the moon, the stars come and all the planets had fallen on me. we should all feel that way. a lot is on our shoulders. if you ever pray, let's pray for each other. republicans, for democrats. and democrats, for republicans. [applause]

paul ryan: and i don't mean pray for a conversion come all right -- pray for a conversion, all right? [laughter] paul ryan: pray for deeper understanding. when you are after, you see it so clearly. wherever you come from, whatever you believe, we are all in the same boat. host: charles in melrose, ohio. ohio.nt orab, we are on paul ryan being elected of speaker of the house. caller: i'm glad to see new blood coming into the congress. it's time for a new speaker. i just don't think he's going to thinkhe rosy path they john boehner has made out for him just because they signed this ill-advised, i would say,

budget deal. when are they going to start acting like responsible adults? and saying we don't have this money, we have to make choices here to either get a balanced -- thismendment in, or country is really going to be in for a hard time when the rooster come home to rest. we are spending money we don't have. when you are broke, you are broke. i think it's irresponsible to give obama a blank check for the next 17 months. that's all. thanks. host: who do you like in the presidential race? caller: i'm very intrigued by marco rubio. he is kind of young, we already had one one term senator in there, and we saw how that worked out.

in my opinion, not very well. i think carly fiorina is very , butligent, i like carson i don't think he is cut out for that job. i think donald trump is nothing but a blowhard. i've never seen a guy in my life that is so full of himself. his hubris is beyond belief. i think he would be a very big mistake for this country. also like ted cruz, i think he's a very intelligent man, i think he has morals, and he's very constitutional. i like that. he respects the constitution. and this president, to be a constitutional professor, has no regard for the constitution. orab.charles in mount another call from ohio on the republican line. caller: i don't think too much

of the money they are taking, raising medicare up to help out medicaid. passed that health care of obama's, they took money and made medicare stronger, but they took billions of dollars over into the insurance thing. medicare and social security all-in-one. another way by taking money out of that fund instead of making sure it. all these people running for president aren't speaking up on that. if i could get an answer on that, i appreciate it. host: that's bob on the republican times. -- republican line. a lot of articles of talked about the fact the budget deal was passed prior to him becoming speaker. senator rand paul talked at the debate about how much he was going to filibuster the budget

deal, which went through the senate last night and passed at three clock a.m. an article from the "washington times," paul begins filibuster to stop budget deal. deal has been put on the speedy path. it was written late monday and clear the house wednesday afternoon. senator mcconnell wants the senate to vote before the sun rose friday morning, meaning be 144 page letter decision controlling trillions of dollars of spending over its lifetime would have just three days in the sunshine.

host: here is a little bit from the senate floor. [video clip] let's rephrase the question. what do advocates of fiscal restraint get in exchange for raising spending caps. if you peru's this agreement, is apparent, they don't get anything. what we traded is an increase in the debt ceiling, not just an increase, and unspecified increase to the debt ceiling. we said to president obama, spend as much money as you want throughout the rest of your presidency. no limits. the national taxpayers union rights if the question on the deal, is deal or no

taxpayers should clearly opt for the latter. while the agreement contains a few meritorious provisions, it fails other sufficient savings and structural reforms necessary to address our nation's $18.1 trillion debt problem. the debt is without question the number one problem in the country. eveninghave a vote this , and that vote will be do you care? are you willing to do something to slow down? should we use the leverage of the debt ceiling to slow down the debt ceiling, or are you a profligate spender who will vote to give president obama unlimited borrowing authority. i think it's a clear-cut question. i will vote no, i will continue this filibuster as long as there are enough votes to allow it to continue. host: we are talking about paul ryan being elected speaker of the house yesterday. republicans, call (202) 748-8001

, democrats, call (202) 748-8000 . independents, call (202) 748-8002. joe was calling in on the independent line from parks word, pa. caller: there has been no truer words spoken out of washington put they helped him together the affordable care act. he said the american people are dumb as a stump, anyone who does want to get on the internet and look at paul ryan's voting record, he voted lockstep with paul ryan. republicans who think they have a good man up there is out of their tree. this treasury reflects nazi germany now more than ever. they keep marching down that road. americans, you are dumb as a stump trade everyone, enjoy your day. thank you for your time. host: paul in houston, texas. in your let me shit

mouth. host: jeeze, louise. darrell, good morning. was amazing to me, before they ever started their delayed -- there debate, voting for the budget, it was already said on who over the announcer was of the program i was watching that this most likely will pass. i'm sitting there thinking that's amazing, these people are spending this time early in the morning, they already know it's going to pass. even though paul ryan was trying to get the point across that there is something totally wrong with the concepts. you have the prayers every ryan beingu have mr. the new speaker, asking for everybody to pray, and yet scripture says the person who loans the money is the head, and the person who borrows the money

is the tale. went fromuntry has being the head, now we are the tale. that hypocrisy of it is very disturbing. the fact that we as a nation are setting up for making the crash of 1929 look like nickels and dimes. host: that is darrell in long beach, california. some of our twitter comments. karen says it was nice of john boehner to leave paul ryan such a lovely welcome gift in the form of the budget bill. matt says i didn't realize voting against eric cantor in the primary would lead to this. but i'm glad he doesn't have the gavel. representative dave brat's career. here is truth and freedom. he is an affable guy, but a partisan figure. gridlock continues. saysild and wonderful considering the alternatives, paul ryan is a good choice for the gop.

but i doubt the honeymoon will last very long. "wallngton journal," -- street journal," their take on paul ryan. focus ons gavel on overhauling taxes. catapulting one of its youngest members to the top job, in hopes that a policy oriented fiscal conservative could give the party a fresh start after years of strife.

host: john boehner said goodbye to the house yesterday. [video clip] proud of these'm things come but the mission is not complete. the truth is it may never be. the one thing i came to realize over the two years i have been here is that this battle over the size and scope and cost of our government in washington has been going on for more than 200 years. quothe forces of the status are good for an awful lot of trouble to prevent change from

happening. real change takes time. yes, freedom makes all things possible. but patients is what makes all things real. slowlieve in the long, struggle. believe in this country's ability to meet her challenges and to lead the world. and remember, you can't do a big job alone. especially this one. host: paul ryan was elected speaker of the house yesterday. republicans, independents, call (202) 748-8002 --call (202) 748-8001. democrats, call (202) 748-8000. independents, call (202) 748-8002. in other news, the new york times lead editorial this morning -- governor christie, time to go home. it must've been rough for those who reelected him to see him hold court wednesday, when he has been a net failure on the new jersey economy.

on his watch, one of the per capital riches states has become one of its biggest laggards in economic growth. host: more galling still, he was not the only such politician on the dais. when is shortchanging your own state qualify a public servant to be president.

host: that's the "new york times," lead editorial. governor christie, time to go home. denise is calling in caller: i'd would like to say as a 22-year-old who works by my stomach at all, icy a great economic challenges -- great economic challenges for african-american individuals and minorities with income at $300 a month. the fact this budget is being passed and there are families with ssi and making the process of applying for disability and government assistance is really

going to deteriorate our work horse and eventually -- our work orce and eventually our nation. host: craig, cedar rapids, iowa. republican line. good morning. guest: america is so divided and the media conglomerate should be declared a third-party, and are trillions of dollars at stake, people want to be in charge of. the average person can't prove anything that is being said and it's all about power, money, and votes. what are we supposed to do? host: what you mean? anythingow do we know been said is the truth? it is slanted towards getting into power. craig in cedar rapids,

thank you for your call. paul ryan discussed the debt in his speech. problem, here is the they are working hard, paying a lot, trying to do right by their families and the are going nowhere fast. they never get a raise, a break, the bills keep piling up and the taxes, and the debt. the are working hard to get ahead in the are falling further behind. they feel robbed. they feel cheated by their birthright -- of their birthright. they are not asking for any favors. they just won a fair chance. and they are losing faith that they will ever get it. washingtonlook at and all they see is chaos. what a relief to them it would be if we finally got our act together.

--t a weight off there so off their shoulders. what a really it would be if we fix the tax codes, strength of the military, lipid people out of poverty, and paid down our debt. [applause] host: from politico this morning, joe biden with bernie sanders. democratic presidential candidate joe biden -- bernie sanders met with joe biden an hour on sunday discussing issues related to finance reform. the meeting comes more than a week after biden announced that he would not the demo added presidential nomination -- not seek the democratic presidential nomination. " bernie sanders is doing a

hell of a job." remarks --ngarten and pledged to stay involved in the election. although i've will not be a candidate, eye will not be silent. of paul ryannk been selected speaker of the house caller? sam? i'd don't think it will do anybody any good until we recognize and it that the problem of our -- host: sam, i'm going to put you on hold, and the will tell you to turn down the volume on your tv. feedback would you don't

turn on your tv. .hris, homestead michigan chris, are you with us? caller: good morning. thank you c-span. iwatch you pretty much every day. i've been watching the hearings. what eye can't understand is the sequesters went into affect 2011. just six month ago, all the candidates were touting that we were 17 trillion in debt. now we are up to 18.1 trillion dollars in debt here it is has been in effect since 2011. it is hurting our defense. it is hurting everything. all that money is being saved. why all of a sudden did we get trillion in the last six months? the numbers don't add up. i'd don't understand. -- i appreciate

the good work. i just wish they had c-span3. , jacksonville, north carolina, what are your thoughts? caller: i have one thing to say. who knows how it is going to go with paul ryan. i feel like he is an honest person and will try to turn some of this around. i wanted to add, you should it couple of paper clippings on rubio. could you have one of your fact checkers do tell the republicans listening how many of those on presidented or obama's desk were signed? if you watch the senate for the votes evere of the get to the president's desk.

host: steve, are you supporting marco rubio? we will never know. tweet that eye like paul rubio. he will crush the tea party. another tweet said i'd only have good wishes to paul ryan, he is one too needed. from politico this morning, recalls on rubio to resign. harry reid calling on the florida republican to resign his senate seat as he racks up no-shows on his voting record but -- while campaigning for the white house. he says, why should he resign? why should the taxpayers of this country and people of florida put up with having only one senator? it doesn't seem fair to me.

roy, what you think about paul ryan getting speaker of the house? caller: well, my prayers go out to him and of all of condors -- and all of congress. the problem is the american voters. they send people to congress who want to object to everything. they send people who definitely are going to object to almost any worthwhile attempt to solve the serious problems. it just is a matter -- i'm mean, with the whole defense thing. if 9/11 didn't prove that military intelligence doesn't exist, why keep throwing money down that rathole. it's just an impossible situation. so i give brian all the credit. eye am -- i am certainly hopeful and prayerful. i'm 77 years old.

i've been working since seven years old. i've had -- i had to go back to work. we really need a lot of help. but defense burgeoning budget, even eisenhower warned against it 50 years ago and we have seen it continue on and on and on. there has got to be better solutions. host: what kind of work do you do? drive --ell ipod be well, i drive drugs all over the state. it doesn't pay much, but it helps. the interest rate just keep going up and up and up. he decided we had to go back to get under the climbing debt. it's working, it's working. health,re not in great

so it is just a struggle, but that's life and not a problem. i thank you for your program. c-span is unbelievably great. i have never gotten through before, but i thank you for all your work. host: daisy in baltimore, independent, high daisy. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call there is on paul ryan, i have been watching c-span for years and i wonder -- paul seniors realize ryan is always cutting medicare and social security out of his budget. and i don't see him changing that as eager of the house. host: thank you ma'am. rich, marion, ohio, republican line. caller: yes, thanks for taking my call. sounds like ryan has his work

cut out for him. we going to let him have any tools? contractorave a cement mixtures for engineers. when they cut off the budget deal, there is no reason anyone will compromise with it. money.'s quite a bit of now we are talking a trillion here and a trillion there. i don't know what we are going to have left for our grandkids. it's a serious problem. all the money that's being spent for all the presidents of two obama, he has that budget and now we are saying that is not enough money? there is something in that total of $18 trillion something big can cut through good spending and that spending. will hang up and hear your answer. host: that is rich in marion, ohio on the republican line. obama findsaper,

three-week highway bill. he signed into law to extend federal transportation funding set to expire thursday night. preventing an interruption in the nation's road and transit spending. federalds transportation funding until november 20. -- he signedled that those sent to him on thursday to prevent an interruption in the nation's road and transit funding ahead of the busy holiday travel season. lawmakers in both chambers have said the temporary patch will provide time for them to finish work on a long-sought multitier highway funding bill. harold is calling in from california on the republican line. you for being able to listen to me for a moment. one thing to save money that would allow our country to do a to a trainingb is

program that will do with a date in california to show a performance action that would show the actual success rate of that training program. some -- to ensure how many people started and completed and what the success rate of how many actually find jobs. by doing this, you get to see program results of the whether it is a community college or state college. ago,tunately, about a year 60 minutes showed a fraction going to work. no one should enter a program that does not have success rate of a minimum of 70%. this would allow people to just

before they spend that kind of money everyone actually spends, not what they pay, but what the taxpayers pay for that particular program. most community colleges cost us to $16,000 a000 year. if you had a performance action, you would see the results of what ever you are entering into. the worst offenders are taking advantage of the student if the community college, state colleges because they don't show what the results are, which are normally in the 18%-30%. you would not buy a car that only worked 30% of the time, would you? host: that is harold in artesia, california. line on our independent gets the last word on paul ryan

be elected speaker of the house. -- i have beene watching your show. is goingbelieve what on, the republicans, the democrats, paul ryan, all of it -- there is so much politicizing going on that what it is doing is keeping -- it's almost a diversionary tactic. keep the american public's eye off the balk, which is the tremendous debt this country has. it is a very, very serious thing. someday, china and other countries are going to say, no more lending money. then what? they're going to give themselves raises. whenis going to happen there is no more money for their pay raises?

i amamily person, which , knows you should not spend more than you have because all that does its lead -- is lead to long-term debt. to spend more money than we have, i don't understand. say, if youion, we screw something up, you should give your paycheck back. that is what i'd really. host: that is steve calling from california. a couple more tweets on paul ryan. done -- ryan has begun his 2020 run for president. -- why did we have an all or nothing mentality? finally, edwin says the proof will be in the pudding. it is obvious the freedom caucus do not support him. the gop house will still be divided in three.

coming up on the washington journal, two guest. a talk with daniel garza, he is initiative, a hispanic organization. we'll talk about political issues that are a concern of them. after that, we'll talk to the theetary-treasurer of political issues and a concern to them. an article from the hill republican of california is not running for chairman of the ways and means committee which ryan vacated. there are still two people left in it. brady is our newsmaker's get this weekend on sunday. you will see be full interview on sunday. we wanted to show you just a little bit of work is in the brady today. mr. brady: this is exciting.

we have candidates running for president with specific tax proposals. this hasn't happened in a long time. that's appropriate because with an hour house republican conference, we have a lot of ideas or it rather than just pick one among the other, we're going to go through the ways and means committee and lay out the ideas that we have heard from members. we have another proposal by represented devin nunes that has a lot of progrowth ideas to it. we'll review them in detail. we'll invite republican members to weigh in on it. i've cannot tell you how incredibly complex it is. our members need to have that foundation so they can help us reach the right solution. for me, here are the principles i am looking at -- i and looking

at. want to make sure it is fair, flatter, and simpler. we need to eliminate loopholes to lower the rates for everyone. i want to make sure small businesses don't pay more. i eye want to make sure all -- whens are no longer we compete around the world. the final principle for me is that we are not's point to bail out washington's spending problems. it is all about growing the economy. sensetell you that even proposal,t his draft the world has been more competitive on the tax side.

there are a number of ways we can get there. i think the right approach is to invite everyone into this discussion. >> washington journal continues. host: we would like to welcome daniel garza. librea director of the organization. what is that? guest: it advances the economic principles of latinos across the country. host: what are you concerned about? guest: education issues, debt reform. communityhe latino and their civic responsibility. immigration reform and economic issue? guest: it has everything to do with how our economy interact. it is important that we have an immigration law that allows the

private sector to respond to -- to hire who they need to hire. there is labor demand we need to meet. immigrants coming into our country is important in fulfilling the demand in the private sector. host: when you say debt ceiling, what is your concern? guest: ultimately, we are concerned that our legislators, elected leaders fulfill their promises to be fiscally responsible to hold sacred the money that taxpayers are paying into our government and make sure the programs they are financing are working effectively. caps,en we have spending that you honor those spending

caps. in this case, they have not. they tested the last night and did not the fill their promises. night past a bill last and did not fulfill their thomas. latinos are very young. while the rest of america is 10 years old on average. pay the spending that is occurring today in the future more than anybody else. it matters what elected leaders are doing with the taxpayer dollars. what they did last night was not honoring the spending caps. politician tells you when they run for office that they are going to be fiscally responsible, then they come to washington and turns out they are not, we remember that. why areniel garza,

republican candidates not doing well with latino voters? guest: there is a lot to that. it's complex. -- i think i'd think that the conservative movement for decades stayed at the margins with minority communities. they seated minorities to the left. they assumed that the principles of free markets and limited government would sell themselves to let -- to the latino community. that latinos were conservatively -- bettina's were conservative intuitively. -- that latinos were conservative intuitively. providing services, using federal dollars, leaning data from the latino community for decades. spanish-language television, unions, all the sort of forces

were at work in the latino community that were more aggressive in so driving that narrative and those ideas to the left, they were much more effective because they were engaged, while conservatives were not engaged. so, now they are paying the price and having to catch up. even though's -- even though i agree that latinos are philosophical in their ideas, you have to engage and connect. ronald reagan said it best, freedom does not pass on through the blood, it passes on from one generation to the next. you have a civic and political responsibility to connect to all constituencies, which the failed to do so. have the presidential candidates have been saying that you have agreed with concerning latino voters? what are some of the positions that have turned off latino

voters? guest: contrary to popular believe, all issues are latino issues. it is not just the issue of immigration. on the issue of immigration, there is a diverse field of thought when it comes to the republican, conservative side. they are much more unified on the left, democrat side. it is easier for one to know the position of one side or the other. left asuld say, on the opposed to the right. a couple cute things when it comes to immigration for latinos. poll after poll, we know that jobs and the economy is number one in raking us concern for the latino community. we are concerned about our kids graduating from college and the are no job opportunities here it we are concerned about the real low participation rate at 62%.

that matters to us. showed did a study that that during this time from 2009, more latinos have been part-time but the other social group in america. so, if we are at 8% part-time what the rest of the country is 4%, obamacare is impacting us. taxation,ation, more as the government grows and centralizes more capital here in bc and wall street, those impacted our minority communities as the government is imposeg, threatening to more tax hikes on most double the cost. blacks and latino youths are in double digits when it comes to unemployment. this matters to us. it is bringing a lot of latinos to their knees. that matters to us among the candidates are saying. education, of course, is very

high on the ranks. a formal education will position you better in the marketplace. parents are empowered to choose the education for their children. college tuition is going to be very important as well. those tax hikes and what the candidates are saying to begin to restrain the high cost of college and an education and health care is also a very important issue to us. and of course the issue of immigration. host: how long has the image -- hello has the initiative and around as mark -- been around? guest: we lost in 2011. -- we launched in 2011.

we have received contributions from freedom partners there is that if the connection. host: daniel garza is our guest. libre meaning freedom. numbers are up on the screen divided by our usual political affiliations. republican, democrat, independent and we set aside our fourth line for latino voters, we want to hear from you as well, and that number is -- debate, cnbc, the want to your response from what he had to say. today we have a legal that ision system or -- the way my parents came in 1956. in 2015, we have a very

different economy. behas to be merit-based and somewhat skills you have, what you can contribute economically, and on whether or not you are coming to become -- coming here to become an american. guest: i agree in most part in what he is saying. history, there has been an estimation that there has been to hundred 20 million immigrants with a lot of skill and talent and a lot of desire to achieve the american dream. those ways of poor immigrants have made our nation richer, our economicause system allows anybody with wehing to achieve anything, have been a prosperous nation because of the wealth of labor. because an immigration system has allowed to accommodate for those ways of poor immigrants. fear isday, what i've that would system

hinder those waves of poor immigrants to create new wealth. mark rubio is talking about we need a new system. having those people who have low the 1986high skill, immigration act passed by ronald reagan only absorb the 3 million that had been here without authorization, but it did not accommodate for future flows of immigrants. that is where the system is broken. that is how we force people to come in illegally. we need to fix that component and criminalize a very rational activity of our private sector. lives. can improve their we do need to guard our borders and secure our orders.

we are a sovereign nation, after all. those of the exceptions when it comes to the immigrant community. see are hopeful -- we are hopeful that they can show some leadership on this issue. host: let's take some calls. jesus is calling in from bedford, maine. caller: my questions is for mr. garza. host: sorry about that. you are going to move on to don in vallejo, california. caller: yes. number one.span, i'm looking at this guy garza, you are supposed to be representing mexican's, so-called mexicans in america, but aren't you part of the spanish conquest? aren't you one of the ones that took the indians and turned them

into mexican that taught them how to speak spanish and put them in slavery? how can you represent the mexican when you are not a mexican? you are a white man. host: thank you. any response mr. garza. i'd think if we are going to indict this generation for the sins of the past, i inc. we are in trouble. all we can do is reflect on we are as individuals. make life better for ourselves and try to advance freedom and make sure we have a nation where we can safeguard the notion that there is equal opportunity and we can all prosper and fries, no matter who you are. , no matter who you are.

i'd think it is important that the different divers voices within cultural diversity, we be given a platform to voice our concern about the direction of this country because we are impacted. the decisions are being made in washington dc and the state capitals. whetherencourage anyone mexican descent, puerto rican, anything, to be involved in the election process and steer the direction of this country. everyone matters and every voice matters. carroll tweets in that it fledonic that immigrants -- guest: there is no questioned that there is a collectivist approach that has taken over

latin america. venezuela is collapsing in their system of economy because they governments that have failed, that if you centralize power and decision-making in a federal government, that is the best system. we feel that people thrive when from the tethers of government. clearly, there is a role for government and some regulation, but it cannot be accessed. -- but it cannot be excessive. we have to reward hard work and personal responsibility. that is a system that has made america oscar. we must preserve that. latin america is heading down the wrong road. argentina is heading in that direction. bolivia, ecuador, one country

after another. the ones that have separated from the pack are doing very well. are some of the most prosperous countries in latin america and it shows in their economy. another tweet, dave, for immigrants are just slave labor at this point. would be smart to fix mexico -- would be smarter to fix mexico. government has interfered too much with the lives of individuals. parents, they went as far as the fourth rate. picking from a roll part of mexico. they were from a

rural part of mexico. i was born in california. group. part of the same we migrated in groups. my parents took 20 years of saving working in the field and orchards in america and made a small business. that decision made us get on our way up to the middle class and succeed. but so did my answer and uncles -- but so did my aunts and uncles. they started in those low skill jobs. in america, it takes one generation to move on and up -- it takess that one generation to move on and up. it takes one generation for children to succeed. children of farmworkers, from the field to the white house.

that is a reflection of america. those opportunities that we want to preserve for others. host: daniel garza was part of the george w. bush administration and served as deputy director in the office of the secretary of interior. tulsa, oklahoma, go ahead. the leading republican candidates for president, first-generation immigrant -- sons of immigrants. it will be interesting to see how the latin american community, which is very conservative, as you have indicated, and going up against the hillary clinton and talk about positions.

hillary clinton is a supporter of planned parenthood selling baby parts. many other issues that will go right down the line and it will be interesting to see how this conservative hard-working group -- every latino eye now is very hard-working, very family oriented, very conservative in their philosophy, and yet they are classed and convinced to be by the spending of money for social services. that's not really something that will hold long-term if they start talking about the issues. i look forward to this upcoming election and seeing if this latin american immunity will --lly support their beliefs

latin american community will really support their beliefs. guest: eye would tell the caller aat there have been their --e support percentage self identify as moderate. who represents them? not many. if you are talking about 70% at any given time that are predisposed to free market is 30 million to 35 million that are not been represented. it is not spanish-language television, univision, telemundo, it is not the unions. this is a time in america that conservative elected leaders

could really shine if they can aggressively court the latino community and earn their trust and vote. means you have to be unapologetic about where you stand on your conservative vegetables on limited government, restraining the ending that is going on in the, centralization of power. latinos will engage with you. in 2014, there was a massive shift in the latino vote. you saw that in colorado. barack obama got 80% of the latino vote. so for cory gardner to cause that shift, it honors his hard work that he did to going to latino churches, latino chamber of common sense -- latino chamber of commerce is an connected with the latino community. you not only saw that in

colorado, but governor gray greg abbott,s, each got over 40%, over 45% over the latinos vote. rick scott in florida, chris christie that 66% of the latino vote. you saw across the map that is conservative candidates connect with the latino voter, you will be rewarded. host: what about donald trump? he said that he employs thousands of hispanic. he loved the hispanic people. is he connecting? guest: he is not. his narrative is not one that is inclusive. it turned off a lot of folks to mischaracterize the immigrant community. granted, if folks come in unauthorized, to mischaracterize

them as criminals and reese -- , it is anand rapists offensive thing to say. position, hepolicy has taken a cruel position to cut off remittances of hard-working immigrants who want to send money back to their family is cruel or it it is also unrealistic and say you're going to deport 11 million folks who are already a part of our communities here. 50% had been here over five years -- 60% have been here over five years. it is not practical. and to also say that you are going to resent the 14th -- that you're going to be send the 14th amendment for that subgroup in him to, it hasn't caused

gain endearment with the latino community. quite the contrary. folks have been turned off by his rhetoric and commentary. host: what about ted cruz? has called to double -- legalof immigration --igration and quadruple where we want to work with the senator, what do we do with the 11 million that are here? he holds a position that we want -- to beage more to be more accommodating. his narrative has been spot on. itrative matters there neared it is important -- narrative matters. how you connect with people, there is an emotional response to that.

for latino people, it is the questioning of the heart and the compassion you have for people and how you speak about the most vulnerable. for us, it is an important issue. see whate waiting to kind of position you hold on their issues. host: this call for daniel garza comes from dan in pennsylvania on our democrats line. caller: good morning to everybody. you republicans have a short memory. you forget that $2 trillion of the budget deficit that we are war and weght on by were lied to about weapons of mass destruction. yes, like to. --yes, lied to. we know where the weapons are, they didn't know where the weapons are, that was a lie. warblican party, the bush's

put us in it. not only did the creek is to joy war, but they created the wars -- not only did they create the $2 trillion war, we did exactly what the experts told us not to do. it was a hornets nests. dan.ou,hat it would be disingenuous to say the obama administration costs are dead. he inherited the debt. clearly, it would be disingenuous to say barack obama has not been responsible either. he is added to trillion dollars to the national debt. trillion to the

national debt. been, to be fair, a republican congress that worked with a democrat president to have a balanced budget and we have not had one since. debt and deficit is a bipartisan calamity. inh have been complicit being fiscally irresponsible. this is one area where we will blame both sides of the issue. it isis no questions that the democrat candidate at this point who are proposing to spend through the roof. there is no limit to the spending the are proposing right now if you listen to the debate. there is one social program after another that they want to explode and spike. if you listen to the sort of, ,lmost progressive increase

direction they want to put us on, it is scary. who is what to pay for this? there is a price that that comes with everything. if you listen to the republican candidates, they are talking about cutting spending, cutting programs. so, americans need to listen and see what direction we want to take the country. calling for washington to get their act together and get more fiscally responsible. host: gary in sterling, virginia on a republican line. hi gary. caller: thank you everyone. worked 15 years in can different restaurants. 250 immigrantsh from asia, the middle east, but mostly from central and south america. i've speak a little bit of spanish did expend 10 years in panama. the amigos eye worked

with in 2005 when president bush worker program, i asked them what they wanted? they were shocked that i even asked them. they wanted help with birth control. i'v but your religion was against it? the other thing they wanted was a registered worker program. girls and 40 guys and one restaurant, i said what about american citizenship? in fact, out of 250 that i worked with, only one of them wanted american citizenship.

but they all wanted birth control except for that one. host: let's get a response from daniel garza. guest: that is where we are stuck. on the republicans i'd, there is the recognition that the economy needs labor and we need to meet labor demand and immigrants are important to our economy. eyehe democratic side, would argue for political self interest because 70% of latinos vote for democrats. citizenship is not their only motivation. we have two fixed positions. when we should argue for immigration reform that would guarantee a path to citizenship, or one that would a legalization program. we have taken a pragmatic approach. ideally, we want to see a bill that would include a path to feel wehip because we need to get people full he

integrated in america and become full contributing members to the economy. the children, get them educated and on and up like every immigrant group for them. there is a very political limitation to that. what is the next best thing? it would be a program to increase job mobility. the person with the visa could be promoted easily. if they are fired, they have time to get another job. circularity, that they can come to and from their country of origin. we feel that is critical. and there needs to be family unification. induces them the cohesion, which is the keystone to society, we feel. and the last thing, the person is not disadvantage for getting in line for citizenship. , double the size

of people coming in, which is a happy medium. folks who want a work visa, includes these components that it would allow to assimilate quickly into american society. host: jeb bush has written a book on immigration reform. what do you think of his approach? guest: it is pragmatic. what america needs is somebody who is going to get us to consensus. i've talked about the two positions. you need someone who will not distance us away from consensus. areld trump's proposals unrealistic. nobody is going to say we are one to build a wall and the mexican are going to pay for it. you're not going to get consensus on that. hillary clinton says she is going to go beyond barack obama

on immigration. she has tipped her had already and as she cannot convince republicans to get on board with her on immigration reform, so absent of that, i and going to government by consecutive action. that is not the answer either. we want real reform. if governor bush is proposing something that is reasonable that could bring people to the is where think that we want to be. not move us away from real reform. talk to route in bloomington, delaware. caller: good morning. i have a problem with people talking about the fact that mexican take jobs that americans don't want. i come from southern cal --

southern and sylvania. day, there were blacks, whites, and puerto ricans who used to do these jobs and then they started breaking all these mexican's into the get aand now you can't job in this industry because most of the mexican are illegal have come in and taken those drops there it that county is a republican county, so they talk about the republicans being against illegal immigrants, but they want them for the cheap labor and that's it. heret bothers me when i'm hispanic people argue that illegal immigrants rights. as americans, we don't feel that they should have rights. they got here illegally.

let's hear from daniel garza. guest: there are legitimate concerns. it is a free society where people compete for jobs based on their merit, skill, and talents. whether it is high skill or low skill. a farmout growing up worker. the reality is i worked in the fields from the time i was 12 years old, 13 years old, to when a was 18 years old. anecdotal, -- this is truly anecdotal, eye can count the latinos working -- i can count latinos working in the field. that thethe questions immigrant community are taking jobs that americans don't want your eyt.

mother know of any saying that she wants her child to go up to be a farm worker. it is backbreaking work. you get mistreated. it is noble work. in my to honor that work current did that work. the fact is, you are not a lot of -- the fact is there are not a lot of non-latinos who do that work and someone needs to do it. the vegetables are going to stay in the field. that is just a fact. with is story after story the harvest has not happened because there is not enough labor supply. i am a and saying -- all saying is that we need a stronger immigration law. there are millions of americans who higher folks without authority and they are violating the law.

because a law in the 1920's call prohibition and it said you could not produce, distribute, or sell alcohol. many americans violated federal law, it was a felony to violate that federal law. with the that people? some of them were. [laughter] gangsters. the vast majority of americans are not bad people. so these people coming over for opportunity who want to work hard and improve their lives of their family, are they that people? some of them are. but the vast majority are hard-working, industrious, and decent people. they have seen the promise of america and want to partake in and. laws just saying that our should accommodate that. it is good for our future. we need a system that will allow it. guest: joe, carmel, indiana.

i'm want to ask you about mike huckabee's of the fair tax. there are several republican candidates that have advocated mikeversion that seem like huckabee's which is easier to discuss because it is the pier 1. it is a horrifically complex topic to try to talk about on television. what your organization thinks about it? what do you think donald trump have gotten into the race to prevent? it hits real estate so hard. host: i've got the point. think we got the point.

would reduce or remove loopholes corporations in america. we build there are corporate taxes one of the highest in the world. that needs to be slashed and produced. orther it is a flat tax something that would simplify our tax code, we welcome it. we want to see more of that. in, whorning tweets best connects with the latino conservative? guest: as a political observer, from what i have seen, i'd think jeb bush has done a good job. marco rubio has done an excellent job in engaging in outreach. i've think rand paul has done some good work in going into the minority communities. it is an advantage to speak the

language and have a shared .ulture when marco rubio talks about his american experience, many latinos relate to that. his father was a bartender and his mother worked in hotels. but someone can connect and do it in a way that is so eloquent and aspirational like marco effective,s very very effective. at the end of the day, people are going to ask themselves, will my life and the life of my --ldren improve it by vote if i boat for this person or that person? ideas have consequences, we know that. if an individual can cut through of this whole campaign bubble going on and connect directly, you are gold. someone who can speak the language, shared culture, shared american experience is can

relate to people and connect has an advantage. ohio, democrat. caller: thank you c-span for taking my call. i'd just have a couple of comments. first of i just would like to point out leading inump is all the polls. let's face it, part of his popularity with the republican racism towards latinos. other point i want to make is everybody is talking about income inequality. part of the reason of how we got here is you can trace back to the so-called reagan revolution that cut the top tax rocket from a huge% to 20%, which is

cut in the revenue stream for this country. tax, and itgressive led us to the greatest prosperity the middle class has ever seen anywhere. policies are part of a problem we are having right now and income inequality you can trace back to supply-side economics, the reagan revolution, free-market thinking, when everyone to call it. this is a direct result of that philosophy that we have been living for 40 years here that is all i have to say. thank you. guest: what he is talking about is trickle-down economics, what democrats always charge the other side of their -- as their economic policy. it is a misnomer. free-market policy, policies that allow people to trade that allow people to

thrive and prosper in the free market. by focusing the growth in the free market is actually one that perm permeates wealth. in other was, it allows people with nothing to achieve. my parents did that. they worked hard and invested in a small business. they created jobs for other people, just like other americans who animated, and are entrepreneurial. that is critical to us that we have that opportunity, and access to the market. a permeates, from the bottom, or from the top down. we need both. to your point of inequality, look, the fact is this. if you have a free market system , that is the economic system that you operate in, if you have freedom, you cannot have a quality. as individuals, we have

different ambitions, skills, talents. some of us work harder, some of us work less. some of us want a big house, want a little house. not the aspirations of a politician, or the dream that someone has for us, but our very own dreams. sometimes those are big dreams, sometimes those are little dreams. if you want a free society, you cannot have a quality. if you want a quality, you cannot have a free society. that is a fact. that is the beautiful thing about america, everybody dictates their own destiny and the society of their destiny. what we have to reserve is the equality of opportunity. that is what we are focused on. we want to make sure that the latino community is also part of the american dream and those avenues of opportunity are open. you are the last call for daniel garza. caller: i would like to know --

i am african-american, a woman -- hello? host: we are listening. caller: in north carolina, governor mccrory, which is a republican, has passed a bill this week that latinos have to have ids, not government ideas, theing that goes through system, but picture ids. every latino here in north carolina has to have that. they were on tv last night crying and upset because this id can actually get them deported. some of them said, i have my papers, i'm waiting to get my visa, but they still passed the law. every latino has to have an id -- some of them are upset, afraid.

they even, i saw on the news last night, they had 8-10 people chained together in the street, demanding that the governor change that. the latinosconvince here in north carolina, hard workers, that they should vote for republicans went republicans are hurting them? host: we got it. policy should induce people to thrive, should reward people for their hard work. public policy should allow people to flourish. we are working hard to make sure we remove barriers to opportunity, to achievement, and to success. across the country, we are working in communities to allow people to develop their skills themalents, and position

in the marketplace so they can succeed. licenseoffer drivers training, we feel that is important. we offer community services, like health checkups, so kids can go back to school. we are advocating for school choice so parents feel empowered. we offer tax preparation services. english classes, which we feel are important for a person's ability to speak in this. english is the language of success in america. we want to be a part of that, removing barriers to opportunity, and hopefully elected officials will do the same. here in d.c., like an north carolina. host: daniel garza. libre initiative is the name of

the group. coming up next, the secretary-general of the afl-cio, a list special or -- elizabeth shuler. we will talk about some of the policies that the union is initiated, some of their initiatives, when it comes to the 2060 election, and some of their initiatives when it comes to pay inequality. ♪ >> monday on "the communicators," the top democrat on the house communications and technology subcommittee discusses how congress should technology breaches.

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sunday morning, at 10:00, an interview with clarence thomas on his upbringing in the segregated south. get our complete we can schedule at c-span.org -- weekend schedule at c-span.org. >> "washington journal" continues. host: now, we want to introduce you to elizabeth shuler, secretary-treasurer of the afl-cio. 'sat is the afl-cio bos involvement in the 2016 campaign at this point? guest: we are educating and mobilizing our members across the country to prepare for the primary season, but also make sure we are raising the issues and the debate. i think you have seen -- inequality has become front and center in both the republican and democratic debate. really, how workers are faring.

we think that is our role, to bring energy, get people involved in the ground, and but pressure on these politicians. host: how are you raising the issue of inequality? what are some of the initiatives you are taking? guest: we have been labor focused on policies, and i guess just issues, and the debate around how we change wages for working americans. that does not necessarily mean our members, but all working people. we know that workers are having a tough time in the economy, and the gap between the wealthiest 1%, and the rest of us, has grown. we are fighting for policies raising the minimum wage, which i think you have seen a lot of action in the country. washington has been in gridlock. most of the action, we are seeing in the states, at the

state and local level. we are fighting for work family daysies like paid sick , equal pay for women. i think you can say the labor movement is squarely on the side of workers, and try to make sure that their issues are heard. host: you and i have six days -- sick days. what percentage of americans do not have that? that 40% is shocking of workers in the private sector have no paid sick days. you see especially in sectors like the retail sector and the restaurant industry where, you hear a lot, why would you want someone coming to work sick, serving your food. would you like a side of flu with your sweet potato fries? , think the issue is acute widespread.

workers feel somewhat powerless. if you do not have a union to stand up and bargain with your employer over paid leave, then your kind of on your own. i think that is the message we want to send that the labor movement is actually advocating on behalf of all workers, helping workers lift their weces, and show that when come together, we are stronger, and we can actually make change. host: when it comes to pay inequality, what is the specific policy would like to see enacted? guest: first of all, we would like to see labor law change in the country so amazing easier to organize a union. way tok that is the best actually fight the inequality gap that we are seeing. i should have brought a chart with me that shows wage stagnation and productivity. as productivity continues to go up, we just go down. you see the point at which

the two lines cross is when unions have started to decline. we have been unable to bargain for a larger share of the growth that we create. policies such as raising the minimum wage, so we on putting upward pressure wages, so that as workers fight to make it in the economy, working to-three jobs, they actually make a decent standard of living. when i say raising wages, i do not just mean raising the minimum wage. of course, including things like leave,mily and medical and equal pay for equal work. amassed guest said that

raising the minimum wage will hurt hispanic and african american entry-level workers, who are already in double-digit unemployment. guest: we hear the argument everything will time the debate comes up. i think we heard it most recently in the pacific northwest, in seattle, where they now raised their minimum wage to $50 per hour. they are actually enacting progressive policies that are trying to lift families out of poverty. the minimum wage is absolutely critical to doing that. we disagree. host: what have you heard from the democratic candidates for president of the republican candidates for president they you would like to, on -- that you would like to comment on? guest: i think inequality has really become the issue that both parties have to address at this point. i think everyone agrees that that gulf has become wider and

wider, and we need to do something about it. the policy prescriptions that each party has are different, but what we're seeing on the rush toic side is a look at the entire package. we're talking about infrastructure investments. that would create jobs. if we start actually investing andupgrading our roads bridges, putting people back to work, as we improve their the structure in this country. we are seeing the candidates talk about trade policy. certainly, the tpp is front and center. soon, we will be coming to congress -- it will be coming to congress for a vote, and that will have an enormous impact on how our economy fares. host: which the afl-cio is against? guest: yes. , what wenow about it

think we will see, is again, a policy that, like all the other trade policies we have seen, will continue to export jobs, and bee middle class, bad policy for american workers. host: one of the issues that you discussed, that you have put forward initiatives on is the gender wage gap. i would like to get you to respond from the september "what street journal" editorial, "gender wage gap smallest on record, but women still earn 21% less than men," saying that it is changing, but if you look at a pew research study, younger women are almost on parity with men today. guest: younger women, thankfully, educational attainment is higher, we have

more women graduating from college, unfortunately, with more debt. on average, $30,000 per graduate these days. i wage gap is still stubborn and persistent. unless we reform laws to help with transparency, so women actually know what to ask for in the workplace, and make it ok to ask a talk about pay, without feeling threatened, then we are still going to see that gap. is a great example of that. she worked for decades, and did not know, until someone slipped her a note. fortunately, people in unions, men and women know what they're pay scales are, and do have ,qual pay for equal work because classifications and jobs are very well-defined. we know the levels of experience and pay the go along with it. two 02 is the area code if

you would like to call in and speak with elizabeth shuler, the secretary-treasurer of the afl-cio, the number two position, correct? guest: correct. we will begin with a call from frank in pensacola, florida. caller: good morning. i hadn't called- in a while, but i like the subject. i was a member of the union here in the school board, and they passed a law in the 1990's the all workers, government workers get all the same benefits as the politicians. if they had a buyout plan, a wage scale, everything had to be set up.

everybody benefited. now, the unions are dropping off because it became a bad word. yet, we all benefited because we -- ifiven the same thing the politicians passed a law saying they got a certain amount of retirement, we begin the same percentages. now, i think they have lost 60% of the union support, and they are losing their bargaining power. yet, we are not having any increases because of the same theg if we can see what politicians are doing to themselves, we should see a difference, and get more. i wish people would look at what the unions have done.

i'm independent. i think both parties are out for self.own when we have unity, then we can get ahead. host: we got your point. thank you very much. elizabeth shuler? guest: i think the caller makes a good point. integral, unions are and making sure that we have fairness in the economy, that workers can get a fair shake for the work that they produce. we want our economy to be successful. we want to make sure that onesrs are not the last rewarded.mes to being i sympathize with the caller.

we agree, just like with the union contract, making sure that people are aware, and no the pay w the pay, especially for women, equal pay. we think it is a good policy. shuler, i'm sure you saw the debate the other night, the cnbc republican debate. i would like to get you to respond to what ted cruz had to say. [video clip] >> the democrats answer to every question is more empowering child lawyers to file lawsuits. if you look at working women, i will tell you, in my family, there are a lot of single mo ms. my mom, who is here today, was a single mom, when my father left us when i was three years old. thank god, my father was invited

to a bible study, and became born again, and came back to my raised me, and we were together. the struggle of single moms is extraordinary. when you talk about wanting to address the plight of working women, not one mention the fact that under barack obama, millions of women have entered poverty. under barack obama, the median wage for women has dropped. the truth of the matter is a government benefits the wealthy, , giantbyists corporations, and the people who are getting hammered are small businesses, single moms, hispanics. that is who i am fighting for. well, i would say, the people benefiting our a corporations. he did not mention that. we think that certainly have a more worker bargaining power is

what will change that. as far as women go, i think you missed an opportunity to talk about the policies that the congress could be passing to help women, namely the paycheck fairness act, of course. act.amilies at work there are pieces of legislation that the republican leadership has decided is not even worth bringing up for debate. we were all excited when paul ryan talked about making sure he has time with his family, that he did not want to work on the weekend, that he wanted to make sure that time was sacred. we agree, but you should not have to be speaker of the house to be able to access that time with your family. every woman, every man, every family should have access to that. i would disagree with senator is bigassertion that it

government. it is excellent governments responsibility to ensure that we have policies they give us a fair shake. washington, your offices, the chamber of commerce office, and the white house are all really close together. do you ever work with the chamber of commerce on any issues? guest: we do, actually. i was just out of form a few weeks ago on workforce development and credentialing. the business community is very ofcerned about the future skilled workers in this country, and how we train people, and make sure that we have the top-notch skills and qualified people to do the job. i think another example is the need for infrastructure investment. i remember going up to capitol onl, and there was a hearing infrastructure.

it was richard trumka -- host: the head of the afl-cio now. , i thoughtok a photo was great. art opportunities were business and labor can work better together. are things that we were together on every day, probably not a lot of people realize. we are on her best when we are collaborating. in, is it tweets realistic to ask for paid family and medical leave when not everyone gets unpaid family and medical leave? guest: we agree that everyone should have access and not worry about their job, if they have a sick family member, or someone themselves, or child, that they have to take care of. a should not have to worry about their job. we would of course be in favor of access for all americans to

leave. we believe that paid leave is essential because it is part of the wage equation. off,you have to take time and you are not paid, that is money coming out of your pocket. whocounter americans daily talk about the challenges around having to balance the needs of their family and their job, and the fear that they have when they come down with a cold, or a sick child. if they call in sick, that they may lose their job or livelihood. it is not right. host: the next call for elizabeth shuler is david in new york great go-ahead. i.ller: h this is a great program this morning. what a contrast. i have something that ties in with both of your guests.

i have a daughter that graduated deep inlege, eyeballs debt. she has to take on this, i guess internship, an working for practically nothing. on top of that, she works another 7-10 hours a day at mcdonald's. she is now without health insurance. she is looking for some sort of help with that. it is just not paying out. now, i have a son, who is nationally -- a nationally certified grid welder. he is 25, and he is buying a house. ,e has a late model welding rig and a late model car.

he has a union, and health insurance. he is doing well. he's contributing to the economy because he is making payments on his car, and so forth. i think that is a pretty good example of what unions can do. i'm all for them. thank you. call. thank you for the i think you laid it out perfectly. that is the dichotomy. the notion that you can have multiple pathways to good jobs, and whether you go to college, or you study for a trade, we should be able to all make a living, provide for our families, and put food on the table. i loved the example of your son, craft, and itled is portable, probably learned the skill at a trade school where he did not have to accumulate debt.

we call it an earn while you apprenticeship. the union movement has some of the finest training programs in the country. if you add up all the investment that the union movement makes and training, we are essentially the largest provider of training u.s.e country behind the military. if you add up all of the 1600 training centers, and the billion dollars of investment of private money that we invest, it is the equivalent of the fourth-largest university system in the country. all of that is available to young people, or people transitioning into new careers without accumulating debts. of course, we want everyone to have a college education, we want everyone to access the way,can dream in what ever

shape, or form they can, but we deftly want to highlight that there are multiple pathways to good paying jobs. in,: richard rogers tweets as unions go, so goes the american middle class, true? i want to take that tweet and bring in this chart, showing that union membership is now down to about 11% of the american workforce. guest: that is right. as unions have declined, primarily because of, as i mentioned, the labor law being broken. it takes an act of heroism to form a union these days because of the intimidation tactics. you can get fired. there is a chilling affect in the workplace when there is employer opposition, intimidation tactics. it has been difficult to form

unions. add to that, trade policies, economic policies, it has been very difficult. you have seen that erosion of the middle class because people are having a harder time accessing those good paying jobs, especially the jobs that we lost to the manufacturing sector, where he did not necessarily have to have a college degree to access a decent paying job. i would agree with that tweet, it, and say that we believe the union movement is essential, and we would like to change that trend line and see innovative of ways of growing the workforce. we are seeing a lot of that with the fast food workers, the fight for $15. we have seen workers coming together to join their collective voices.

i think that is where we will see the balance start to recalibrate. host: william is calling in from missouri. go ahead. caller: i was born and raised in los angeles. we had a union. i was construction worker. vietnam, iback from went straight to work. the union, they protect the boss, he hadhad a long hair, and he wanted to fire hair.ause i had long i worked for the company for another eight years without problems. then, i moved to northern california. all of my friends worked in the

canneries. they were all union. we all had houses, we all had cars. now, i'm 60 years old, and i live in missouri, republican state. here, and for the same work that i was doing out there, they were paying $10 per hour. i cannot believe it. i was like, what? they have no union or anything back here. i was working on the job -- i will not say the name of the country, but they were adding on 100 square feet, and saying that they were trying to vote union in. kept telly workers, they will not do that, it is a want aactic, and you

union, and i told them the benefits pure sure enough, they shut the plant down. host: can you bring this to a conclusion? caller: the republicans are toing that you are forced pay dues, and that is why they want to kill the union. that is not true. compared to nothing the benefits pure to protect you, they give you health care, they give you retirement, they give you everything, and they look after the worker. host: we got the point. thank you. elizabeth shuler? guest: thanks for your call, william. thennot agree more that union is actually a collection of people in a workplace that , thee exactly what it is parties, that they want to bargain for across the table with their worker. benefits, andges,

working conditions. more more, we are seeing that can be new and different things. the bread and butter issues that you are talking about, being able to make a living, making sure that you are working in a safe environment, that you have the freedom to speak out, and not fear being fired for it, whether it is your hair, what you're wearing, or any number of issues. i think it shows that it is a good give-and-take process in the workplace to be able to have a way to raise your voice, and not feel alone. i think often people have misperceptions about unions that it is just a third party that wants to take your money, and that cannot be further from the case. union, meaning a union of people in a workplace, or a company, that basically just want fairness.

i would agree with you wholeheartedly that, in states like missouri, where they are contemplating passing right to work laws, it is a very dangerous proposition when you start to chip away at workers rights to have a voice. says that heeet sheet metalrs as a worker, will the unions get solidly behind hillary? guest: i think there are a number of unions that are in the middle of their endorsement processes. we like to have transparent processes so that we are making sure to hold the candidates' to the fire. the afl-cio is a collection of 57 unions. we have unions from all sectors of the economy, whether it is public, private, federal. we have any range of sectors --

steelworkers, professional teachers.nurses, each of those unions are going through their own process to decide what is best for its members. it is a very robust process. we encourage that. we encourage debate, and we'll see what happens. host: how did you get involved in this kind of work? guest: i grew up in portland, oregon, and i went to school at the mercy of oregon, -- at the ineive oregon, and graduated an economy that is like now, job opportunities were hard to come by for young people. i into working on a onpaign -- ended up working a campaign, and organizing campaign at an electric utility company. when i heard that clerical , i said,ere organizing

i want to get involved in that. i joined the campaign. unfortunately, the campaign was a lot like campaigns we see all the time. the employer did not like what he saw was happening, and tried to have one-on-one meetings with folks, and try to give raises to people to delay the effort. after the campaign, the union hired me, and said, we could use someone like you because we are trying to organize clerical maybe itand they said, would be a good idea to have someone like you on the team. shortly thereafter, anenron companyur local utility , and the workers, including my father, lost their pension in bankruptcy. that is how i basically

unlocked my passion for legislative and political work, i ended up in washington, d.c. with the electrical workers union. host: was your father a member of the union? guest: yes. 37 years at the company, and when enron came in, the anchorage people to get more and more into the stock. they ended up doing a lot of matching stock for their retirements. when the bankruptcy came, as the stock crashed, they froze people's ability to sell the stock and they had to watch it go from dollars to pennies before their very eyes. there were a number of family friends -- i don't know if you , smartestvie, "enron

guys in the room," those were family friends. they were doing congressional .earings on what had happened i felt so lucky that we could bring the voices of working people to talk about what had happened. terrible time. in, trade deals, imported labor caused inet wages, and both -- cause stagnant wages, and both parties are in bed together. been, a round trade, for example, this is an issue where we are out in the streets, in front of congressional offices, no matter who you are. if you're contemplating voting

for the dvd, we are educating -- for the tpp, we are educating levels at the grassroots to raise our voices. washington is becoming more more thatocked, so we realize party politics is not necessarily the answer. host: you have a couple of republicans talking about immigration reform, building a fence. how has immigration affected the unions and jobs in america, in your view? what about -- well, let's start there. guest: we believe that comprehensive immigration reform is absolutely necessary, with a path to citizenship. shadowow, we have a economy where the employers are the winners. the employers take advantage of undocumented workers. they can pay under the table, or not at all. we have seen wage theft rampant

among workers who are undocumented. they feel they do not have the right to speak out. they have no recourse. especially individual workers not having the power to come together collectively on their own. they are often mistreated and abused. we believe that immigration reform will fix that, that it will bring workers out of the shadow economy, and give them the right to fight for good organized obviously into unions, which they do have the power to do, but often are intimidated. host: the next call for elizabeth shuler of the afl-cio comes from carl in massachusetts. caller: good morning, thank you for c-span. i'm an old union man. i agree with everything you say, but please explain to me the minimum wage.

the minimum wage in massachusetts cannot be the same as in arkansas or mississippi. how do you reconcile that? guest: most often, we see the federal standard as sort of a baseline standard. states then improve on it, based on the needs or conditions and their particular state. we see that often with safety laws, where we have an osha standard, and estate will at individually, based on the needs of their state. i would say that raising the floor for the federal minimum toe gives the states cover take it up from there. s, like ine state seattle, they raised the minimum wage to $15 per hour, which a couple of years ago people thought was impossible. we think that as you raise the

floor, it puts less pressure on folks making more money because in the union movement, most union workers are making more than minimum wage. there is pressure went unions go to the bargaining table with workers -- there is pressure is the wages are lower, lower, and lower. erodes the standard. we want to see it go in the opposite direction where the rising tide lifts all boats. host: christopher, florida, good morning. caller: thank you so much for c-span. explained my frustration when it comes to unions. here, in florida, we have a very difficult task. we have a single parent

household, mostly women, 70%. we also have a right to work state. they can terminate them without a reason. not everybody is part of the union. we do have a chapter here of the afl-cio, and they try their hardest to get around, people .dentified not everybody feels they qualified to be part of the union. this is troubling to me because what we think of the dynamics of family life here, i'm a husband, a father of four girls, and i always think about my little girls. what am i going to do? how will they fare in the workplace? what can we do to fix that? my question to you is, as a regular citizen, i disabled myself, i lost my eyesight a few years ago. as a regular says that, what can we do to help the process -- should we be reaching out to our

local legislators, or what can we do? joined thelf, i have race for the florida congress. i'm an advocate for jobs, for raising the minimum wage, and an advocate for women to be paid equally. host: prior to becoming disabled, what more did you do? were you member of the union? caller: no, i was not a member of the union, my parents were, and my grandparents, up and new york -- in new york. i, myself, am a certified strategic planner. i built framework for a lot of measures and plans. i had experience working with unions, by was not part of the union itself. host: thank you very much for calling in. any comments? what you canked

do. one big thing would be to speak out and educate other people about what the union movement can do. i think there is a lot of perception -- misperception out , now about unions that that the union movement has declined, as we said earlier to ,1% overall in the economy about 7% in the private sector, it used to bele -- that everyone knew someone in the union. you had a cousin, grandparent, someone you knew, a neighbor, in the union. i think we need to get back to educating folks of the benefits of coming together collectively. it is always easier and your workplace to negotiate for

better pay and conditions as a group, rather than on your own. that is what unions do. not only an individual workplace, but really provide a e entire to the in economy when union members are at the table and negotiating, they are not only having an impact on their communities, but the economy overall. 5 million union members are negotiating contracts right now. some of the big sectors of our economy. if they get a wage increase, you better bet that that will actually affect the overall economy. .gain, thanks for your words i hope people will see this and learn more about unions, and what they do for the economy. host: a couple more twitter comments. matt smith tweets in, what have unions done for america -- thank

god for unions. scott says, unions are no different from jobs, if you want job security, be good at what you do. here is lisa -- there is a unions,ce between private sector unions are weak and deteriorating. is that true? guest: yes, of course, the public sector has been the growth, in terms of the union movement. now, we are seeing attacks on the public sector union movement. there have been state on right toattempts work. the fight that we saw in wisconsin recently. i think the notion that the union movement is sort of the one institution left standing that can represent working people makes us a bit of a

target. i think those tweets are absolutely on. the notion of union members -- what was it, members of the mob? host: unions are no different from mobs. guest: that is an old stereotype which cracked me up because they like to call us union bosses, thugs. there is an old image of people with baseball bats. that is not the modern union movement. hopefully, if you are seeing me "odd"itting, the word "thug" hopefully does not come to mind. themore we think about notion of people coming together

collectively to better their lives, the better off we will be. host: the last call for elizabeth shuler comes from james and glendale, california. james? james is gone. that was the last call. comment.twitter who identifies himself as a conservative that believes in small government and self responsibility -- unions have declined in concert with manufacturing jobs, you can thank our trade deal, tbp will tpprantee the extension -- will guarantee the extension. tp is notagree that cafta, jafta. we agree that tbp is following

in the same trajectory. any trade deal we see, we evaluate in the lens, will it be good for american workers? so far, what we know of tpp, that is not the case. host: if people are interested and some of the election or campaign policy initiatives that the afl-cio is coming out with, where can they go? cio.org is our website. we also have a vibrant young workers movement that i want to make a note of. next up is the young worker program. we have young worker activists coming together across the country in our network. their claim issues that young people care about in this economy. the labor movement has become a vehicle for making change. host: elizabeth shuler is the secretary-treasurer, the number two ranking position of the afl

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host: this is how he concludes t it one he talks about speaker ryan and marco rubio --

host: that is david brooks this morning. stanley in bloomfield, kentucky, democrat, what is on your mind this morning? caller: i was a union man for 30 yearsyears. in 1972, in michigan i was making $10.50 an hour. health care for insurance and a pension plan. 2015, the people here in , theyky do the same work work for a lot less money. no conditions, you pay for your

own insurance and everything. host: so you agree? guest: i agree with the young lady. say thatlso like to government, we the people to vote for the people, and by the people, i believe that's what mr. lincoln said, seems to be party andepublican now even the democrat party is for less government and less government. are they meeting to say that is less for the people, less by the people?less of the host: thank you. karen, republican from california. what is the policy issue on your mind this morning? caller: i want to his on two

points that i wanted to direct about the unions. when i worked i worked really hard and i got so fatigued i became disabled. people that work to, they have to work so very hard, and if they have to keep that up, they are going to end up being disabled. something needs to be done. --ot work so hard, or help have something to help them around the house. the next point i want to make is office.t a large the wages were excellent. people got greedy, but the union has to be careful not to overcharge the employer because the employer was so overcharged that they had to shut it down

and moved to san francisco. i worked in los angeles at the time. i'm just sharing those points. -- thatat is carried in is carrot in santa monica, california. here is politico. republican presidential campaigns are planning to gather on sunday evening ndc to plot how to alter their messy debate process and remove our from the hands of the republican national committee. not invited to the meeting, anybody from the rnc, which many candidates have openly criticized in the hour since wednesday cnbc debate in boulder. affairic, disorganized that was widely and by political observers. on thursday many of the campaign stole politico that the republican national committee, which has taken a greater role in the 2016 debate process than in previous election cycles had failed to take their concerns into account.

at least half the candidates agreed to begin discussing amongst themselves how the next debate should be structured and not leave it up to the rnc and television networks. the gathering is being organized by adviser to the campaigns of donald trump, ben carson, bobby jindal, and lindsey graham. expected to attend our carlyentatives from fiorina, mike huckabee, rand paul, marco rubio and rick santorum. the planners are also reaching out to other republican candidates. michael in michigan. caller: good morning. debates, i amthe watching the political campaigns with a huge amount of laughter. hasamerican electorate descended into a fantasy-based world where facts do not matter,

where news does not matter, only entertainment value matters. it is quite comical to watch spewing theirnees plans, and most of them are non-reality-based and and yet they blame the media for the tough questions because they realize the questions have no correct answers. dr. ben carson said he had no relationship with this mannatech incorporated. i watched commercials on it with him and this company. flat out lying. donald trump's plans, flat-out lies, yet the electrolux and for the entertainment value and for the fantasy-based news and present. host: beverly, washington, dc, democrat line. caller: thank you.

host: you have to turn down the television. just listen through the telephone. we are all listening. whenr: my comment is that hey go to the court -- host: i'm going to have to move on. i apologize. any caller caps on, you will hear everything to the telephone. please turn on your tv. to begin, kansas, republican. caller: thank you. i want you to know my late husband was a union member. going to referm to. but kansas has recently passed a governmenthe

construction is not going to go according to union wages, and whatever the wage is. a son who is not union, and he got to work at a job that he got union pay before this law was passed. himnot only did that make happy, but all of the other employees were able to spend the communityease growth. governor sad that our does not really care about anyone but someone else. to begin, kansas on the republican line. from the washington post this veto override.s

the budget deal result the one outstanding issue keeping the national defense authorization bill from becoming law. but lingering political differences are preventing lawmakers from wrapping things up quite yet. not citedve still whether they want to it of overriding the president's veto of the older the budget deal national defense author is an act before putting out a new bill that would all but surely be accelerated through the committee process and onto the floor. republicans are looking for a chance to score political points by overriding president obama's veto, and have already scheduled a floor vote for such a move on november 5. they could back out. that is in the washington post. this is charlie savage's article in the new york times this morning. ofearly end to collection records by the national security agency. a federal appeals court on

thursday decline towards the nsa to end one month early its phone collection of records about americans domestic phone calls. a three-judge panel on the u.s. court of appeals has ruled in may that the once secret bulk phone records program was illegal. but by allowing the program continue to live over 29, when it will expire under a bill passed by congress, the court avoided making a definitive assessment of whether such bulk collection violates fourth amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures. this friday, last friday in october, joan, toledo, independent line. caller: good morning, how are you? host: how are you? caller: i am really hot because i noticed that none of the presidential candidates have answered any questions concerning retirees.

those who are drawing additional pensions aside from their social security. what they have done, i know the law was passed back in the 1980's by the congress about how much money you can have and how many pensions you can get. but my main pension comes out and educational entity. i've also council security due to other jobs that i had in other fields and military. and with the social security administration has done based on that lot, when i retired at age my state teacher retirement sister is not paying into the social security system, they decided to dock me and take money from other jobs that i had worked.

keep in mind, i paid into social security, and so did my other lawyers. but it did not matter the social security administration took close to $400 a month of my social security check to punish me because strs oh coyote did not take in the social security. what it comes to reforms, very quickly, what would you like to see? caller: i would like to see that repealedr changed or that allows the social security administration to do that. at more than anything i would like to hear the candidates on both sides, both republicans and democrats, i would like to hear them address it. they avoid it by talking about families and the middle class. but they do not talk anything about retirees, widows.

host: thank you for calling in. we want to show you a tweet in washington.n speaker of the house, paul ryan. thank you to c-span for the information you provide us. i think without the unions there would be no middle class. i would like to congratulate her for the work she is doing for the fl ico. i would love to join her team. next as paul, ntsb, virginia on our republican line. this is open phones with public policy issues on your mind this week. been watching your program all morning, thank you for washington journal. i think paul ryan would make a great speaker, at as far as mr.

carson goes, he is correct with consensus. you need a lot of consensus on the immigration, and he had some really good ideas. , i know a, the union lot of people are calling and in some part of the unit. i think the union has done its job. we need the unions to protect i had severalut negative encounters with the off. that just put me host: can you share one? when i went to work for the government i was with the union and i went to work the called me rate they and said why didn't you call me

and tell me you were going to work for the government? i will leave the expletive out. saidhe patrolman basically that, we don't need you anyway. that just turned me right off, right there. that, we still need the union to protect the worker, otherwise it is going to go back to the mine and soulal owned by the company store. i have respect for the unit. on. the, but as paul, it is virginia. in indiana, we are listening. caller: i have two comments.

most of theat republican candidates that are running for president are only running so we will have -- they will have that on the resume, that they were candidate for theydent in even though don't have a chance. is, we have scores of stuff from the bush era. i believe cheney had more to do the bush did with that. halliburton, also, the war crimes and stuff in other countries. host: this is cecil, in pittsburgh.

go ahead. withr: i have an argument the order of the supreme court freecorporations have speech. an international corporation has money and resourcefulness to call our elections. that is organization outside of our government with the power callhe money in order to our election one way or another. they have an unlimited amount of money internationally to call her elections and the supreme court approved the. m. host: from the wall street journal this morning and the growth slows as the economy slogs along. it is struggling to break out of the slow growth pace that has plagued to the economic expansion. the economy grew at a modest

1.5% seasonally adjusted annual rate from july through september. the commerce department estimated on thursday that marked a from the second quarter when the u.s. gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic output, expanded at a 3.9% pace. solid consumer outlays that increased spending on business agreement and homebuilding propelled the economy against overseas headwinds weighing on -- on u.s.facturers manufacturers. but from a year earlier, the growth advanced at a familiar 2% rate, showing the economy remains locked into a restate expansion more than six years after the recession ended. the next call is from darren in washington dc. you are only washington journal. caller: hello. i do appreciate c-span.

media the main forms of that i listen to. i just had a comment about the debate in general. i just did not like that there were not too many questions asked, it was just pitting them against each other. host: you liked that part? caller: i did not. i do not like it one bit. i want to be able to decide who and theo vote four media has a huge part in that. we have 70 issues going on that we need to get hashed out. the biggest thing for me was i live here in d.c. but i travel between baltimore d.c. all the time. the northern part of the country. i'm from new jersey. infrastructure, i see it all the time.

we really need a huge push in infrastructure. that should be a part of the debate. they really help out with putting out the story of what is going on. the median i was all about entertainment, just like somebody else said. people are so frustrated. that i really is wish there was an to the sinclair of media. where is the investigative journalism of yesterday? a lot of the reforms we have in the country, a lot of things that we take for granted, , some guy cannot just come to your house and selling snake oil to tell you it will cure your heart disease. a lot of that was exposed by media and investigative journalism. people do not understand how much media really affects it.

host: we will move to james and south carolina. go ahead. you for c-span. i appreciate it. i wish you would have a primetime version so people could get in on the action. host: washington journal, p.m.. we could call it that. caller: i like that. host: one of the reasons is because the house and senate are often in session. c-spanyou stick with during the day you will notice that we do a lot more calling than we used to throughout the day. we are trying to give that broader opportunity. caller: that is good. the point i wanted to make today was about unions and everybody talking about unions have destroyed america and jobs.

i worked and grew up in the south during the 1980's and 1990's. i think everybody who worked in the south in the 1980's and 1990's knows what i'm talking about. we do not have unions. we only had human resource. and we had good jobs and we were ile to pay our bills and remember like it was yesterday, it was in the late 1990's, my father called me up and he was very political. , your country is saying goodbye to nafta. people forget about bill clinton and what he did. free-trade,it was more trade. watched after that, i did not know what he was talking about at the time. but when i started seeing jobs

leaving the country as they got bigger, they would leave for cheap labor. see in my started to three, illegal immigration coming and then lower wages and front and citizens out of work. not able to pay their bills. having to work to three jobs every day. word jobar the creation, i just do not understand the word job creation. we did that. that is like reinventing the wheel. we created the jobs, and we shipped them overseas. host: james and south carolina. charles is in virginia.

what is the public policy issue undermines this morning? the partatriotism on of the american citizenry. should i keep talking? host: we are listening. herer: i have tried to get many times in everyday phenomena 19 lending-year-old, i had a try to get through many times and never did, i'm a 90-year-old, who had a birthday two days ago. s, for to say american gods sake, realize where we are now in relationship to the rest ,f the world for live in a time while we did and an atomic bomb usage at one time, things as powerful as that could happen now to us here in the united states.

fightingot to stop , and get back to the american revolution spirit in which we are together protecting and loving america, and loving this wonderful country that i have lived in for these 90 years. host: could you give us a snapshot of your life? and were you live born? born in plymouth, north carolina. fellow of color who experienced an enormous amount is a colored man going through america. on the other hand i'm fortunate. governmentred u.s.

worker. i was in the military in the first and second world war. have aove america and i phenomenal heritage. one child is all i have, and that child has one child in but i love america, and i want to see you guys all over america, think where we are now and let's extent thatg to the we're doing it for selfish of personal gain. host: what has been your favorite president in the past 90 years? caller: there are two or three of them. i have to put lincoln in there. i have to put jefferson in there, who i love were years and i have monitored show

my wall monticello on right now. host: what about during your lifetime? roosevelt, to be sure. the extent he tried to liberalize and equalize the relationship of all americans. roosevelt, to be sure. i think america, that we are going to get away from the loveics and we're going to the ability -- existence of obama in this country. host: thank you for calling in. robert in florida, republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to offer a

perspective from a different point of view. i have been involved in manufacturing or almost 40 years. i still am. i started as a union machine is in the 1970's. now i am a business consultant. i'm involved deeply in the hiring process and creation of that areother issues very relevant to business. not hear is the business perspective except to say that businesses are greedy and they are wringing out their employees for all they can get. ripping the profits and then and ading these workers bad situation, where they are disabled or have other issues. that business and manufacturing has changed says i got in and in the 70's.

the internet had a lot to do with expanding the amount of business interrelationships and arriving competition. came what is now spoken of anymore, the one world vision that our politicians embraced. with that it wasn't tried to lower american wages in order to meet foreign worker wages. we are still suffering under some of the laws enacted during that time. additionally, technology has advanced. caused problems with unions because a lot of times a company will acquire a machine who can do the work of 20 people but the unit is not willing to accept that. host: you are involved in the manufacturing business, how so? manufacturing of machine processing -- zero goods that go

into aerospace, aviation, domestic products. host: i worker, the owner? caller: i am a consultant. when donald trump says he wants to bring jobs back to the united states -- caller: that is grandiose talk. i'm a republican, but i'm not in favor of donald trump. i think he has no place in the stage with those other people. i am not happy with the republican party for even accepting him as a candidate. i think that candidates should have rules of behavior or they should get bounced, just like anybody else. i think anyone who is proposing ludicrous ideas and acting in an irresponsible manner, like a 60-year-old child, he should be bounced. host: that is robert in florida.

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