fully honor its commitments. turkey, one of our oldest allies. the situation continues to become more complex around them. now a critical partner integrating at feeding iso--- in degrading and defeating isolate, they continue to support has across many lines of effort. the u.s. air force continues to be a important force more employer -- force multiplier. as you know, most of the forces we have in europe are also will have to do to africa coming in. while they are stationed in europe they are focused on african missions on the cognitive. in this way they are supporting across the scene into african.

building up to congressional testimony, if you cannot tell. obviously, i do not want to continue to bang the drum about the centrality of european command to the global national security issues we face. i do want to bang the drum. it is not what it was 18 months ago, or even six months ago. new threats and challenges seemingly emerge every day. we stand ready to meet them, and the supporting commands of silicon and afrikaans and the supporting test command every day. finally, our commitment to our article five obligation in europe is ironclad. giving the complexity of challenges we face globally, it remains critical that we continue to work together with our allies and partners. this has been true for 60 years, and it is true today. with that, i'm ready to take your questions.

>> general, the army chief just returned from ukraine. on the way home he said he is recommending a search of army forces into europe. what does that mean? and if i could, have you seen evidence that the russians have russian cargo flights are ferrying weapons into syria? there has been some reporting that there were 10 days, twice a day flights in breach of un security council resolutions. general breedlove: let me answer the second was first, it is fairly easy prey i am not personally seen any confirmation of that. i read the same things you have read. i cannot give you any other definition on that. as to the general's remarks, he is a good friend and a great chief. he had i have been talking from the very beginning about how we would address force concerns in europe.

our force structure in europe now is not adequate to the larger rustler -- russian task that we see. how do we address that? we all accept that our current permanent force structure will probably not change. how do we address the need for increased force posture? what we see is working to gather on a formula of increased pre-positioning of equipment forward, as you know we have just now finished the full deployment of one heavy brigade of the positions which forward. we're now looking at what further reposition material we need to address. we had worked on this before he left. we have to take up into the next

administration for the chief of staff of the army. we have highlighted what is important. the ability to rapidly reinforce europe will rely first on fast-moving troops following it on pre-positioning materials. we need to have the appropriate composition and type of position materials forward. both generals before and after and i have very similar visions of what that will take. and then, to address the force posture that full said, what you have seen already in our operation is a rotating force into these most former nations -- most former nations of the balkans, and romania and bulgaria. we are talking about the appropriate size and composition of that future horse that mary's with a nato rotation into the

same nation to develop assurance and deterrence into the future. these are the things that we're talking about. >> general, you talk about turkey has little bit. last week secretary carter said that there were going to be lower -- more airstrikes going forward. what rules does in-service play in that? we have seen airforce platforms going in there. going in there. what kind of missions with a be doing? what is the future for turkey? general breedlove: i will be a bit unsatisfying. i will not share the details because we are still discussing this. but yes, we are looking at some increases to the capabilities. we are looking at it in two venues. one venue, to provide some increases support as you mentioned. secondarily, to show in the nato sites, support to our turkish

ally as we continue to address their concerns about their airspace. in the venue of the nato mission we might be making some contributions as well. but details are set to follow. i cannot confirm that we are looking at all of these options. >> when you look at the ground at not more, when you seeing in terms of the turks unwilling at this point to let the forces, the kurdish, then are they in syria, northern rock -- northern iraq move around and advance to the west the many sins of the turks are basically one of the factors keeping those forces bottled up. what would you like to see happen on that warner -- border so they can carry out the president strategy of more progress?

general breedlove: i will answer most of that. a lot of the question is best addressed to a different officer. first, let me talk about the yukon side of the border. we see, as you know, and you seen reported, and a lot of improvement in the turkish control of that border. they have put a turkish brigadier general who has been given the mission of stopping the flow of especially foreign fighters across the border. we have all seen a marked improvement. there are still work to be done, but we have seen an of -- a marked improvement. they did position to try to address that issue. we see a good progression on the

north side of the border. on the south side of the border, as you described, this is a complicated area. people in these areas are seeing differently by different nations in the area. what i would tell you is that we are committed to work very closely with our turkish allies to address their concerns about but to forward the mission on the south side of that border. >> what are the specific concerns you are hearing from the turks about the south side of the border? general breedlove: as you know, our turkish allies see some of the kurdish factions in a way that threatens them. they have been defined as terrorists and others in some cases. the turks are very concerned that we are working appropriately with all the groups on the south side of that order.

that is what i mentioned earlier. that we will work with turkey to address their concerns closely on that side of the border. as we work toward advancing the mission of moving i sold to the south. --isil to the south. >> you sent that russian action in syria provides more questions than answers. they are popping up and saw a going after any ruggles of threatened this. what questions do you have? general breedlove: they have been clear in the very recent past about what they're doing. they started off saying we are all about isil and what we saw happening on the ground was very different. their approach is beginning to clarify now, and they're pretty forward about the fact that they are bombing the moderate syrian opposition and other groups. that raises questions about what is our future path in syria.

i think we need a political transition in syria. the moderate opposition is a part of forcing that political decision. the actions we see the russians taking now prolonged this conflict which prolongs the conflict -- prolongs the oslo people -- outflow of people. the idea of allowing political transition in syria -- >> the moderate opposition, some of which are treated supported by the u.s., should the u.s. do anything about it? general breedlove: i think i would just refer you to the comments of both the secretary and killed him for -- and dunford. we need to support our moderate opposition. >> my question is about the imf

treaty. it is reported that russia conducted a test of a new launch missile which is said to be a violation that was identified a year ago. are you concerned about this new threat to europe, and what are you doing to ensure the allies? the russians also said they would withdraw from the treaty if the u.s. went ahead with plans to play additional tactical nuclear weapons and can you address those? general breedlove: you said if we deploy additional tactical weapons? i not sure that is what they said. they're questioning what we're talking about in the upgrade of our practical nuclear weapons, yes. not to trivialize your first question, but this is not the first time we have seen testing that looks like it violates the imf. we have been discussing this with them for some time now.

both in the u.s. bilateral sense and also nato is equally concerned about it. the violation is not new, and yes we are concerned. you have heard our secretary talk as long as she can go about how he sees a framework for addressing those violations. what we have here are threats that are being made in the case of our upgrade, our extension program to our tactical nuclear weapons in europe. we're not bringing new weapons, we are not bringing more weapons. we're ensuring the safety and functionality of the weapons that are there. we actually believe this is something that is another way to create dialogue and bring pressure on our alliance.

there is nothing new about these weapons as far as numbers, etc.. we have a long program and we are continuing with the upgrade of our weapons and this is about safety and reliability. these are things that you want to have a nuclear weapons. i'm stymied of concern -- at the concern. >> take it back for a second. you have the russian buildup inside syria, and this is what should happen. the fact that back in june or july a few people would have guessed that russia would double down in syria in some of the side. do you think there is a lack of this capability to anticipate decisions by russia? how does that affect your decision-making and your role

right now in nato? general breedlove: i have answered this question several times in the past. i have for example find we have a lack of ability to see into russia, especially at the operational tactical level. we have conducted and focus on the strategic level across the years. why has this happened? i do not fall for the relation has done. remember that over the last few decades we have been trying to make a partner out of russia. some say as much as to decades of 18 years, 14 years, it does not matter exactly what it is great but for almost two decades, since the fall of the wall, we've been trying to bring russia into a family of norms and values that ally with the western world.

we see a lot of reaching out to them in economics, energy, etc., in europeans and americans at this time. a 2008, we had a verbal where they charge you. that was concerning. but the world went back to trying to make a partner out of russia after 2008. the recently they evaded crimea. during that time, when we are trying to make a partner out of russia, and we were having these issues and iraq and afghanistan in other places, we have taken our limited bucket of intelligence surveillance and work on a hints capabilities and focus them at the operational and deck will level in the world. we've taken the view off russia. we had kept a strong focus on their strategic level so we

could keep after those things that worried us most in their strategic forces. the capability to include analysts that we needed on russia has been shifted to the pressing concerns that we saw. we are not where we need to be now. and eic is addressing it has already made some fairly dramatic changes in the last several months. about how we use our analyst and they are beginning to look at we -- f reprioritizing assets as well. we're gently turning the nose of this ship to get back to what we need to be looking at. just to recap, i think our nation made decisions over the last two decades that were congruent with our approach to russia.

now we see that possibly we did not have that partner that we thought we had the last two decades. we're having to readjust and i'm thankful for it. >> if i could follow up. data think you can do business with the russians at this point in time? >> right now i do not see them as a partner. i would ask you to greet their paper across the last 18 months. the let's get this on the table as well. if we are going to have a europe at peace and prosperous, at some point in the future when they have changed their behavior on the ground, we need to find that relationship in the future.

>> other russians still based at nato headquarters in brussels? >> i think that the largest part of the russian delegation has departed brussels. i do believe there is a small contact point there. i do not have the exact numbers but my characterization is there is a big mission that has gone down. >> i know you love to speak about intelligence matters from the podium. can you talk about reprioritizing? general breedlove: can i ask you to talk to them about it? i will be extremely honest. i know the details, but i'm not willing to talk to them at this

podium. i would ask you to talk to them about them. the intelligence community has seen they need, and make adjustments that are appropriate. but it will take time. >> you're seeing better intelligence on russian activities? general breedlove: i'd rather >> do you see the need for the international body to investigate the doctors without borders? the strikes at the hospital? general breedlove: there is an international body looking into it right now. as you know, we have a nato investigation that is ongoing and i think it will report out sooner rather than later. i think it is approaching a time when it can report out.

i think that our u.s. investigation is ongoing. i think that our leadership has been extremely clear in this. we support a full, transparent, open investigation. that is what is happening first and foremost in this case. we are all saddened by the loss of life and our hearts and minds, to the families of the that are lost. we need to learn. you have heard the commanders say that this was a mistake and that we are looking at everything from personnel actions to procedural actions to equipment issues to determine how and what happens so we can address them in the future. >> you support an international body investigating this? there was a recent report that suggested that you would look favorably upon that, having an international body.

it is that correct? general breedlove: i am in favor of whatever it takes to get to a full of open, transparent investigation. >> including an international body? general breedlove: anything it takes to get to a full, open, and transparent investigation. >> thank you for being with us. good to see you again. i want to ask about two things you talk about. in ukraine you talked about the united states is going to start training the ministry to -- ministry of defense troops. can you give us an idea of the training that will be going on? also in syria, some critics have said, on refugee crisis that russia was filling a vacuum that european nations were not helping within syria. can you talk about some of the conversations you have had with your european counterparts on

the situation? anymore commitment to help in syria? general breedlove: let's first go to the training. not to waste your time, but i've been there, i have watched the training on the ground, i have watched the last iteration of training to the national guard troops. the scope, size and type on a change in all. we will do start to rotate through battalions of active duty and national guard. in our context that may sound like a big division, in their it

is not too much in the training will be almost exactly the same. we are working on small unit skills, leadership skills. the ability to employ as a team, etc.. i must tell you that our soldiers are pretty impressed with their soldiers. what the green have done, which i think is very smart, as they bring these battalions backed they have a mix of new guys, but they also have those who have been on the front line, under fire from the russians every day. they have a great experience of what it is like to be hit by modern artillery. these guys are able to share inside of their formation as they are being trained by our troops. very little change. i do not agree with the assertion that there is a filling on a vacuum. remember we have a coalition that is addressing this problem. all 28 nations of nato are in that coalition. the europeans are a part of the force that is working against isil and syria. i think russia's goal is separate and clear. if we want to talk about that, we can do that.

>> back on the re-prioritization, in one of your previous visits, you talked about isr. i wanted to ask you about the broad isr, you said it was a small percentage. 2%. have you been getting more isr coverage? >> the changes to the system -- this is an annual cycle of how this is allocated. that is happening in the building now. the results are not out. the building is clearly -- clearly understand my requirement for isr. one of the reasons i'm back here is to work this issue. [indiscernible] >> what about the navy? the russian fleet has shown activity in the black sea. do you see the need for any additional naval forces?

>> first, the good news. as you know, a fourth of the destroyers that will be stationed have arrived and entered into our rotation. unlike the air forces and other forces, armed forces in europe which have drawn down for a while, the navy forces are actually growing in europe as the ships are permanently assigned. we have four very capable destroyers that are a huge part of our rotation capability and have already been used to demonstrate freedom of action in the black sea and other places which the russians would like to say. the good news is that is there. there is a requirement for more.

again, ross us how we allocate those forces are going on in this building right now. that is part of the reason i am here to advocate what i think is an increased need to address the russian navy as it is growing any black sea fleet as you have seen as presence grow in the eastern mediterranean, etc. [indiscernible] >> crisis response from europe or it --. they would like to be a float. could -- would they benefit from having some other ship to be on? >> you just put a fact on the table that is not in my work. right now, -- frankly, the acceptance of our great allies, italy, greece, others to move them around, we need to have them postured for rapid insertion. we are getting incredible cooperation out of these nations.

i think that right now our ability can be met from our current construct. >> going back to ukraine and russia, your comments on russia's involvement in ukraine has been unchanged over the past few months. i was wondering if there is anything you are seeing on the ground that has given you cause for concern or is it safe to say that russia has shifted its efforts from ukraine to syria? >> it is an entry -- excellent question and when i wanted to

answer. i think we have to examine what is going on in ukraine. what i'm concerned about is that folks have taken their eye off of ukraine a little bit because of what is happening in syria. that is -- that is a technique that i think has been employed here a couple of times. invade crime era -- crimea, take the was off of that -- worlds eyes off of that by getting involved in syria. we to be focused on the fact that this is a larger construct by russia. we need to think holistically about our response to russia. for example -- i will get more specifically to the answer in a minute -- if russia truly wants to collaborate in syria, a great place to demonstrate that is to begin to cooperate, collaborate and start moving towards those requirements like returning the border of ukraine to ukraine so that ukraine can control its own international border. if we saw good faith work in ukraine, maybe that starts a conversation. we need to remember that these are commitments in ukraine.

we are thankful for the work done in the normandy format. we are thankful that we see a lessening of tensions along the line of contact, although we still have skirmishes here and there. we are thankful for the leading edges of what appears to be moving back some of the weapons. what we have not seen his russia removing any of its forces in ukraine. as you have heard the report at this podium before, air defense, artillery spotting support, artillery support personnel, supplies, all still being supplied by russia. good faith there would begin the retrograde of those russian forces out of dumbas. that would be a good show of faith, i think. >> could you tell us whether

there is any change with respect to pouring out of turkey, the assad regime forces seem to move up to northern syria. given the russians have deployed ground elements into syria. >> as you know, the patriots were brought home for a purpose. a had been there for quite some time and we needed to get them back to retrofit and upgrade them so that we can continue to be able to use them against the continuing threats that are built in the world. we are working with other allies to see what other contributions allies may seem -- bring to the issue. as you know, the spanish patriots remain in place.

to the earlier conversation we had, we are looking at other things that we can do to contribute to active -- the operation which the patriots worked and contributed to. our turkish allies have given us some concerns that they have about the ability to defend their airspace and other things. nato and u.s. are looking at those options. right now, the patriots are going to be a long-term refurbishment. there is no plan for this specific patriot to return. >> if i could go back to russian intended syria. in an interview in the last 24 hours, he doesn't think putin has a plan in syria. do you agree? what is his plan in syria?

>> i have said in the past that anyone that i can't say what mr. putin is going to do. what are the capabilities and capacity to the is creating? we determine from that what he might be choosing to do. i think it is important to think through why mr. putin might be in syria i have done that and this is my opinion, not one of nato or anyone knows. i think learned folks will agree that mr. putin and russia want to be seen as an equal on the world stage and as a world power. i think mr. putin and russia need eastern, mediterranean ports and airfields. i think mr. putin sees the assad regime as the guarantor of those airfields and ports. he needs to support the assad regime in order to maintain those.

i think, as we talked about earlier, most of -- mr. putin wants he was eyes off of ukraine. focus on syria and the normalize those other places. i think he wants to keep the world's eyes off of what his supporters team the support team does. the on all of those, i think mr. putin wants to address iceland other things. he sees those is a threat to him in russia. i think there is a hierarchy of needs. that expenses actions. works on monday, have there been continuing provocative unsafe flights? why are they doing these kinds of things?

>> we had a period, and we talked about it from this podium last time. there was a bit of an increase in these interactions. if you remember, i reminded you that some of that increase and interaction is because we have stepped up our responses. we used to have one policing base in northern europe. for a while, we were up to three. we were putting up more interceptors and so there was more interaction. it is a complex dance of why there was increased interaction. we didn't see increased -- we did see increased interaction. i would call bellicose interactions, bellicose intercepts. you have heard from many of the nations about flying through their airspace without

transponders, etc. there was a period, i would opine that in the past few weeks or so, it has been a bit more normal. we have seen a real focus on syria. these actions continue. they continue all around the periphery of russia. they are still happening in europe. they are still happening in russia. >> last question, anybody? >> what are you seeing, any snap exercises not anyone is focused on syria? are you seeing anything different? >> as you know, in response to the last series of exercises, we saw some big exercises across the line and some snap inspections. at one point, approaching our last nuclear exercise, etc., i think these are clear messages. in the very recent past, we have not seen a lot of it because i

think everything is focused on working the syria peace. thank you all.

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country. host: what are you concerned about? guest: education issues, debt reform. communityhe latino and their civic responsibility. immigration reform and economic issue? guest: it has everything to do with how our economy interact. it is important that we have an immigration law that allows the private sector to respond to -- to hire who they need to hire. there is labor demand we need to meet. immigrants coming into our country is important in fulfilling the demand in the private sector. host: when you say debt ceiling, what is your concern? guest: ultimately, we are

concerned that our legislators, elected leaders fulfill their promises to be fiscally responsible to hold sacred the money that taxpayers are paying into our government and make sure the programs they are financing are working effectively. caps,en we have spending that you honor those spending caps. in this case, they have not. they tested the last night and did not the fill their promises. night past a bill last and did not fulfill their thomas. latinos are very young. while the rest of america is 10 years old on average. pay the spending

that is occurring today in the future more than anybody else. it matters what elected leaders are doing with the taxpayer dollars. what they did last night was not honoring the spending caps. politician tells you when they run for office that they are going to be fiscally responsible, then they come to washington and turns out they are not, we remember that. why areniel garza, republican candidates not doing well with latino voters? guest: there is a lot to that. it's complex. -- i think i'd think that the conservative movement for decades stayed at the margins with minority communities. they seated minorities to the left. they assumed that the principles of free markets and limited government would sell themselves

to let -- to the latino community. that latinos were conservatively -- bettina's were conservative intuitively. -- that latinos were conservative intuitively. providing services, using federal dollars, leaning data from the latino community for decades. spanish-language television, unions, all the sort of forces were at work in the latino community that were more aggressive in so driving that narrative and those ideas to the left, they were much more effective because they were engaged, while conservatives were not engaged. so, now they are paying the price and having to catch up. even though's -- even though i agree that latinos are

philosophical in their ideas, you have to engage and connect. ronald reagan said it best, freedom does not pass on through the blood, it passes on from one generation to the next. you have a civic and political responsibility to connect to all constituencies, which the failed to do so. have the presidential candidates have been saying that you have agreed with concerning latino voters? what are some of the positions that have turned off latino voters? guest: contrary to popular believe, all issues are latino issues. it is not just the issue of immigration. on the issue of immigration, there is a diverse field of thought when it comes to the republican, conservative side. they are much more unified on the left, democrat side. it is easier for one to know the

position of one side or the other. left asuld say, on the opposed to the right. a couple cute things when it comes to immigration for latinos. poll after poll, we know that jobs and the economy is number one in raking us concern for the latino community. we are concerned about our kids graduating from college and the are no job opportunities here it we are concerned about the real low participation rate at 62%. that matters to us. showed did a study that that during this time from 2009, more latinos have been part-time but the other social group in america. so, if we are at 8% part-time what the rest of the country is 4%, obamacare is impacting us. taxation,ation, more as the government grows and

centralizes more capital here in bc and wall street, those impacted our minority communities as the government is imposeg, threatening to more tax hikes on most double the cost. blacks and latino youths are in double digits when it comes to unemployment. this matters to us. it is bringing a lot of latinos to their knees. that matters to us among the candidates are saying. education, of course, is very high on the ranks. a formal education will position you better in the marketplace. parents are empowered to choose the education for their children. college tuition is going to be very important as well. those tax hikes and what the

candidates are saying to begin to restrain the high cost of college and an education and health care is also a very important issue to us. and of course the issue of immigration. host: how long has the image -- hello has the initiative and around as mark -- been around? guest: we lost in 2011. -- we launched in 2011. we have received contributions from freedom partners there is that if the connection. host: daniel garza is our guest. libre meaning freedom. numbers are up on the screen divided by our usual political affiliations. republican, democrat, independent and we set aside our fourth line for latino voters,

we want to hear from you as well, and that number is -- debate, cnbc, the want to your response from what he had to say. today we have a legal that ision system or -- the way my parents came in 1956. in 2015, we have a very different economy. behas to be merit-based and somewhat skills you have, what you can contribute economically, and on whether or not you are coming to become -- coming here to become an american. guest: i agree in most part in what he is saying. history, there has been an estimation that there has been to hundred 20 million immigrants with a lot of skill and talent and a lot of

desire to achieve the american dream. those ways of poor immigrants have made our nation richer, our economicause system allows anybody with wehing to achieve anything, have been a prosperous nation because of the wealth of labor. because an immigration system has allowed to accommodate for those ways of poor immigrants. fear isday, what i've that would system hinder those waves of poor immigrants to create new wealth. mark rubio is talking about we need a new system. having those people who have low the 1986high skill, immigration act passed by ronald reagan only absorb the 3 million

that had been here without authorization, but it did not accommodate for future flows of immigrants. that is where the system is broken. that is how we force people to come in illegally. we need to fix that component and criminalize a very rational activity of our private sector. lives. can improve their we do need to guard our borders and secure our orders. we are a sovereign nation, after all. those of the exceptions when it comes to the immigrant community. see are hopeful -- we are hopeful that they can show some leadership on this issue. host: let's take some calls. jesus is calling in from bedford, maine. caller: my questions is for mr. garza. host: sorry about that.

you are going to move on to don in vallejo, california. caller: yes. number one.span, i'm looking at this guy garza, you are supposed to be representing mexican's, so-called mexicans in america, but aren't you part of the spanish conquest? aren't you one of the ones that took the indians and turned them into mexican that taught them how to speak spanish and put them in slavery? how can you represent the mexican when you are not a mexican? you are a white man. host: thank you. any response mr. garza. i'd think if we are going

to indict this generation for the sins of the past, i inc. we are in trouble. all we can do is reflect on we are as individuals. make life better for ourselves and try to advance freedom and make sure we have a nation where we can safeguard the notion that there is equal opportunity and we can all prosper and fries, no matter who you are. , no matter who you are. i'd think it is important that the different divers voices within cultural diversity, we be given a platform to voice our concern about the direction of this country because we are impacted. the decisions are being made in washington dc and the state capitals. whetherencourage anyone mexican descent, puerto

rican, anything, to be involved in the election process and steer the direction of this country. everyone matters and every voice matters. carroll tweets in that it fledonic that immigrants -- guest: there is no questioned that there is a collectivist approach that has taken over latin america. venezuela is collapsing in their system of economy because they governments that have failed, that if you centralize power and decision-making in a federal government, that is the best system. we feel that people thrive when from the tethers

of government. clearly, there is a role for government and some regulation, but it cannot be accessed. -- but it cannot be excessive. we have to reward hard work and personal responsibility. that is a system that has made america oscar. we must preserve that. latin america is heading down the wrong road. argentina is heading in that direction. bolivia, ecuador, one country after another. the ones that have separated from the pack are doing very well. are some of the most prosperous countries in latin america and it shows in their economy. another tweet, dave, for immigrants are just slave labor at this point. would be smart to fix mexico

-- would be smarter to fix mexico. government has interfered too much with the lives of individuals. parents, they went as far as the fourth rate. picking from a roll part of mexico. they were from a rural part of mexico. i was born in california. group. part of the same we migrated in groups. my parents took 20 years of saving working in the field and orchards in america and made a small business. that decision made us get on our way up to the middle class and succeed.

but so did my answer and uncles -- but so did my aunts and uncles. they started in those low skill jobs. in america, it takes one generation to move on and up -- it takess that one generation to move on and up. it takes one generation for children to succeed. children of farmworkers, from the field to the white house. that is a reflection of america. those opportunities that we want to preserve for others. host: daniel garza was part of the george w. bush administration and served as deputy director in the office of the secretary of interior. tulsa, oklahoma, go ahead. the leading republican

candidates for president, first-generation immigrant -- sons of immigrants. it will be interesting to see how the latin american community, which is very conservative, as you have indicated, and going up against the hillary clinton and talk about positions. hillary clinton is a supporter of planned parenthood selling baby parts. many other issues that will go right down the line and it will be interesting to see how this conservative hard-working group -- every latino eye now is very hard-working, very family oriented, very conservative in their philosophy, and yet they

are classed and convinced to be by the spending of money for social services. that's not really something that will hold long-term if they start talking about the issues. i look forward to this upcoming election and seeing if this latin american immunity will --lly support their beliefs latin american community will really support their beliefs. guest: eye would tell the caller aat there have been their --e support percentage self identify as moderate. who represents them?

not many. if you are talking about 70% at any given time that are predisposed to free market is 30 million to 35 million that are not been represented. it is not spanish-language television, univision, telemundo, it is not the unions. this is a time in america that conservative elected leaders could really shine if they can aggressively court the latino community and earn their trust and vote. means you have to be unapologetic about where you stand on your conservative vegetables on limited government, restraining the ending that is going on in the, centralization of power. latinos will engage with you. in 2014, there was a massive shift in the latino vote.

you saw that in colorado. barack obama got 80% of the latino vote. so for cory gardner to cause that shift, it honors his hard work that he did to going to latino churches, latino chamber of common sense -- latino chamber of commerce is an connected with the latino community. you not only saw that in colorado, but governor gray greg abbott,s, each got over 40%, over 45% over the latinos vote. rick scott in florida, chris christie that 66% of the latino vote. you saw across the map that is conservative candidates connect

with the latino voter, you will be rewarded. host: what about donald trump? he said that he employs thousands of hispanic. he loved the hispanic people. is he connecting? guest: he is not. his narrative is not one that is inclusive. it turned off a lot of folks to mischaracterize the immigrant community. granted, if folks come in unauthorized, to mischaracterize them as criminals and reese -- , it is anand rapists offensive thing to say. position, hepolicy has taken a cruel position to cut off remittances of hard-working immigrants who want to send money back to their

family is cruel or it it is also unrealistic and say you're going to deport 11 million folks who are already a part of our communities here. 50% had been here over five years -- 60% have been here over five years. it is not practical. and to also say that you are going to resent the 14th -- that you're going to be send the 14th amendment for that subgroup in him to, it hasn't caused gain endearment with the latino community. quite the contrary. folks have been turned off by his rhetoric and commentary. host: what about ted cruz? has called to double -- legalof immigration --igration and quadruple

where we want to work with the senator, what do we do with the 11 million that are here? he holds a position that we want -- to beage more to be more accommodating. his narrative has been spot on. itrative matters there neared it is important -- narrative matters. how you connect with people, there is an emotional response to that. for latino people, it is the questioning of the heart and the compassion you have for people and how you speak about the most vulnerable. for us, it is an important issue. see whate waiting to kind of position you hold on their issues. host: this call for daniel garza comes from dan in pennsylvania on our democrats line. caller: good morning to

everybody. you republicans have a short memory. you forget that $2 trillion of the budget deficit that we are war and weght on by were lied to about weapons of mass destruction. yes, like to. --yes, lied to. we know where the weapons are, they didn't know where the weapons are, that was a lie. warblican party, the bush's put us in it. not only did the creek is to joy war, but they created the wars -- not only did they create the $2 trillion war, we did exactly what the experts told us not to do. it was a hornets nests. dan.ou,hat

it would be disienuous to say the obama administration costs are dead. he inherited the debt. clearly, it would be disingenuous to say barack obama has not been responsible either. he is added to trillion dollars to the national debt. trillion to the national debt. been, to be fair, a republican congress that worked with a democrat president to have a balanced budget and we have not had one since. debt and deficit is a bipartisan calamity. inh have been complicit

being fiscally irresponsible. this is one area where we will blame both sides of the issue. it isis no questions that the democrat candidate at this point who are proposing to spend through the roof. there is no limit to the spending the are proposing right now if you listen to the debate. there is one social program after another that they want to explode and spike. if you listen to the sort of, ,lmost progressive increase direction they want to put us on, it is scary. who is what to pay for this? there is a price that that comes with everything. if you listen to the republican candidates, they are talking about cutting spending, cutting programs. so, americans need to listen and see what direction we want to take the country. calling for washington to

get their act together and get more fiscally responsible. host: gary in sterling, virginia on a republican line. hi gary. caller: thank you everyone. worked 15 years in can different restaurants. 250 immigrantsh from asia, the middle east, but mostly from central and south america. i've speak a little bit of spanish did expend 10 years in panama. the amigos eye worked with in 2005 when president bush worker program, i asked them what they wanted? they were shocked that i even asked them. they wanted help with birth control. i'v but your

religion was against it? the other thing they wanted was a registered worker program. girls and 40 guys and one restaurant, i said what about american citizenship? in fact, out of 250 that i worked with, only one of them wanted american citizenship. but they all wanted birth control except for that one. host: let's get a response from daniel garza. guest: that is where we are stuck. on the republicans i'd, there is the recognition that the economy needs labor and we need to meet labor demand and immigrants are important to our economy. eyehe democratic side, would argue for political self interest because 70% of latinos

vote for democrats. citizenship is not their only motivation. we have two fixed positions. when we should argue for immigration reform that would guarantee a path to citizenship, or one that would a legalization program. we have taken a pragmatic approach. ideally, we want to see a bill that would include a path to feel wehip because we need to get people full he integrated in america and become full contributing members to the economy. the children, get them educated and on and up like every immigrant group for them. there is a very political limitation to that. what is the next best thing? it would be a program to increase job mobility. the person with the visa could be promoted easily. if they are fired, they have time to get another job. circularity, that

they can come to and from their country of origin. we feel that is critical. and there needs to be family unification. induces them the cohesion, which is the keystone to society, we feel. and the last thing, the person is not disadvantage for getting in line for citizenship. , double the size of people coming in, which is a happy medium. folks who want a work visa, includes these components that it would allow to assimilate quickly into american society. host: jeb bush has written a book on immigration reform. what do you think of his approach? guest: it is pragmatic. what america needs is somebody

who is going to get us to consensus. i've talked about the two positions. you need someone who will not distance us away from consensus. areld trump's proposals unrealistic. nobody is going to say we are one to build a wall and the mexican are going to pay for it. you're not going to get consensus on that. hillary clinton says she is going to go beyond barack obama on immigration. she has tipped her had already and as she cannot convince republicans to get on board with her on immigration reform, so absent of that, i and going to government by consecutive action. that is not the answer either. we want real reform. if governor bush is proposing something that is reasonable that could bring people to the is where think that

we want to be. not move us away from real reform. talk to route in bloomington, delaware. caller: good morning. i have a problem with people talking about the fact that mexican take jobs that americans don't want. i come from southern cal -- southern and sylvania. day, there were blacks, whites, and puerto ricans who used to do these jobs and then they started breaking all these mexican's into the get aand now you can't job in this industry because most of the mexican are illegal

have come in and taken those drops there it that county is a republican county, so they talk about the republicans being against illegal immigrants, but they want them for the cheap labor and that's it. heret bothers me when i'm hispanic people argue that illegal immigrants rights. as americans, we don't feel that they should have rights. they got here illegally. let's hear from daniel garza. guest: there are legitimate concerns. it is a free society where people compete for jobs based on their merit, skill, and talents. whether it is high skill or low skill. a farmout growing up worker. the reality is i worked in the fields from the time i was 12

years old, 13 years old, to when a was 18 years old. anecdotal, -- this is truly anecdotal, eye can count the latinos working -- i can count latinos working in the field. that thethe questions immigrant community are taking jobs that americans don't want your eyt. mother know of any saying that she wants her child to go up to be a farm worker. it is backbreaking work. you get mistreated. it is noble work. in my to honor that work current did that work. the fact is, you are not a lot of -- the fact is there are not

a lot of non-latinos who do that work and someone needs to do it. the vegetables are going to stay in the field. that is just a fact. with is story after story the harvest has not happened because there is not enough labor supply. i am a and saying -- all saying is that we need a stronger immigration law. there are millions of americans who higher folks without authority and they are violating the law. because a law in the 1920's call prohibition and it said you could not produce, distribute, or sell alcohol. many americans violated federal law, it was a felony to violate that federal law. with the that people? some of them were. [laughter] gangsters. the vast majority of americans are not bad people. so these people coming over for

opportunity who want to work hard and improve their lives of their family, are they that people? some of them are. but the vast majority are hard-working, industrious, and decent people. they have seen the promise of america and want to partake in and. laws just saying that our should accommodate that. it is good for our future. we need a system that will allow it. guest: joe, carmel, indiana. i'm want to ask you about mike huckabee's of the fair tax. there are several republican candidates that have advocated mikeversion that seem like huckabee's which is easier to discuss because it is the pier 1. it is a horrifically complex

topic to try to talk about on television. what your organization thinks about it? what do you think donald trump have gotten into the race to prevent? it hits real estate so hard. host: i've got the point. think we got the point. would reduce or remove loopholes corporations in america. we build there are corporate taxes one of the highest in the world. that needs to be slashed and produced. orther it is a flat tax something that would simplify our tax code, we welcome it.

we want to see more of that. in, whorning tweets best connects with the latino conservative? guest: as a political observer, from what i have seen, i'd think jeb bush has done a good job. marco rubio has done an excellent job in engaging in outreach. i've think rand paul has done some good work in going into the minority communities. it is an advantage to speak the language and have a shared .ulture when marco rubio talks about his american experience, many latinos relate to that. his father was a bartender and his mother worked in hotels. but someone can connect and do it in a way that is so eloquent and aspirational like marco effective,s very very effective. at the end of the day, people

are going to ask themselves, will my life and the life of my --ldren improve it by vote if i boat for this person or that person? ideas have consequences, we know that. if an individual can cut through of this whole campaign bubble going on and connect directly, you are gold. someone who can speak the language, shared culture, shared american experience is can relate to people and connect has an advantage. ohio, democrat. caller: thank you c-span for taking my call. i'd just have a couple of comments. first of i just would like to point out leading inump is all the polls. let's face it, part of his

popularity with the republican racism towards latinos. other point i want to make is everybody is talking about income inequality. part of the reason of how we got here is you can trace back to the so-called reagan revolution that cut the top tax rocket from a huge% to 20%, which is cut in the revenue stream for this country. tax, and itgressive led us to the greatest prosperity the middle class has ever seen anywhere. policies are part of a problem we are having right now and income inequality you can trace back to supply-side

economics, the reagan revolution, free-market thinking, when everyone to call it. this is a direct result of that philosophy that we have been living for 40 years here that is all i have to say. thank you. guest: what he is talking about is trickle-down economics, what democrats always charge the other side of their -- as their economic policy. it is a misnomer. free-market policy, policies that allow people to trade that allow people to thrive and prosper in the free maet. by focusing the growth in the free market is actually one that perm permeates wealth. in other was, it allows people with nothing to achieve. my parents did that. they worked hard and invested in a small business. they created jobs for other people, just like other americans who animated, and are entrepreneurial. that is critical to us that we

have that opportunity, and access to the market. a permeates, from the bottom, or from the top down. we need both. to your point of inequality, look, the fact is this. if you have a free market system , that is the economic system that you operate in, if you have freedom, you cannot have a quality. as individuals, we have different ambitions, skills, talents. some of us work harder, some of us work less. some of us want a big house, want a little house. not the aspirations of a politician, or the dream that someone has for us, but our very own dreams. sometimes those are big dreams, sometimes those are little dreams. if you want a free society, you cannot have a quality.

if you want a quality, you cannot have a free society. that is a fact. that is the beautiful thing about america, everybody dictates their own destiny and the society of their destiny. what we have to reserve is the equality of opportunity. that is what we are focused on. we want to make sure that the latino community is also part of the american dream and those avenues of opportunity are open. you are the last call for daniel garza. caller: i would like to know -- i am african-american, a woman -- hello? host: we are listening. caller: in north carolina, governor mccrory, which is a republican, has passed a bill this week that latinos have to have ids, not government ideas, theing that goes through

system, but picture ids. every latino here in north carolina has to have that. they were on tv last night crying and upset because this id can actually get them deported. some of them said, i have my papers, i'm waiting to get my visa, but they still passed the law. every latino has to have an id -- some of them are upset, afraid. they even, i saw on the news last night, they had 8-10 people chained together in the street, demanding that the governor change that. the latinosconvince here in north carolina, hard workers, that they should vote for republicans went republicans are hurting them? host: we got it.

policy should induce people to thrive, should reward people for their hard work. public policy should allow people to flourish. we are working hard to make sure we remove barriers to opportunity, to achievement, and to success. across the country, we are working in communities to allow people to develop their skills themalents, and position in the marketplace so they can succeed. licenseoffer drivers training, we feel that is important. we offer community services, like health checkups, so kids can go back to school. we are advocating for school choice so parents feel empowered. we offer tax preparation services. english classes, which we feel

are important for a person's ability to speak in this. english is the language of success in america. we want to be a part of that, removing barriers to opportunity, and hopefully elected officials will do the same. here in d.c., like an north carolina. host: daniel garza. >> on the next washington journal, pentagon reporter andrew tillman on the decision to send combat advisors to the middle east. then, a discussion about the world health organization's recent report linking processed meats to cancer. we will talk to michael jacobson and janet riley of the north american meat institute. and a look at republican efforts

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the panel on unlocking the hispanic vote. we have a great panel. just a couple of quick housekeeping things. we will be on here for about one hour. we will be 40 to 45 minutes of discussion and then open it up to q&a. i will give you the go-ahead when you can start lining up. please have all your questions ready. we are excited to have give you an opportunity to ask them. we do not ask you turn off your cell phones, but please put them on vibrate. is hashtag for the festival #ttf. is, onejuan herne and of the founders of the hispanic republicans group who helps republicans run for office. he is a longtime political advisor to many folks, including senator mccain and the presidential candidates in latin america. thank you for being here. ellis whonator rodney

don't himself the honorary latino on this panel -- dubbed himself the honorary latino on this panel. he was elected in 1990 and serves in the transportation committee. before that, he served several terms and city council. next to him is representative jason. dallas republican from where he was first elected in 2012. he served on the business and industry of economic small business development committees in the house. next to him is a state representative. israel was elected in 2014. she is had about four elections since then. she won the special election in her district. she has a long history with texas politics. she worked with former governor ann richards.

she is on the elections committee. last but not least, we have the secretary of state. he is the current secretary of state. he was one of governors a abbot t's first selections when first elected. he was former democrat but then switched so thae republican side. he later became the county judge. thank you for being here. we appreciate it. we have done several iterations of this panel. last year, we were doing it leading up to the 2014 gubernatorial elections. this year, we have a very crowded field. on the republican side, if you asked me a year ago when we started talking about the panel if my first question would be donald trump, i would not have believed you. we have a very crowded republican field where a front

runner is at the front of the field. he says mexico is not sending its best to the u.s. they are rapists and drug dealers. do the republicans on this panel struggle -- how do you look ahead to the election in which you can gain more hispanic support after dismal turnout in the last election? how do you reconcile those statements by the leader of the party? >> you're looking at me. pass it on. that is a difficult question. by the way, he is not only of national interest. he is of international interest. i have been to several countries recently and people come up to me and say i hope you are not supporting trump. because it is insulting what he has said about hispanics, women, my family members, my friends. but, it is also --

internationally, we were talking about mexico. from out of nowhere appears a gentleman. he is offensive. a showman. someone argued it was the most powerful state. the most educated state. the state with the most finances. pri party forhe the first time in the history of mexico. there is an independent government. it happened in costa rica last year. it also happened in panama. this year, we have a winner in one o guatemala. people are tired of politics as usual. in this nation, republicans and democrats -- they love there is

a trump guy out there swearing, kicking everybody and making things rough. but, if you also look at the research and do not ask who you would vote for or if you like trump, but show what trump stands for and believes in, americans will say i will not vote for anybody like that. we tend tohing is t vote with our emotions and not our mind. that is also international. in this case, we have more than a year for his ideas to come forth. i think we will be missing him on panels very soon. >> i will say if there is a i willl connection remind everybody up. of.

if any of our kid's have a birthday party, you have a piñata. you will beat on it. it is a celebration. a hot item in austin right now is a donald trump piñata. that is an indicator. as a democrat, donald trump is a gift that keeps on giving. [laughter] >> look, donald trump gives voice to frustration in the party today. i think the people that are following him, people most enthusiastic about him are those that are disenfranchised from the current political system. so, he is one of these outsiders we can attach ourselves to. that being said, his policies are just offensive. they are deeply troubling. i think anyone republican that is thoughtful about these issues are were five that someone horrified that somebody in

the party has even said those things. i think that is very troubling. i think most republicans will have their summer affairs with candidates while we are enjoying the process and entertainment of politics. i think as we go into the fall and into the spring, we can really begin to discern who our next presidential nominee will be. ofis the carnival barkers the republican party. if you look at history, the last election cycle, we have people like michele bachmann and herman cain all had their moment in the sun. it is entertainment, but in the end, we nominated a somber individual who ultimately did not do what we hoped. at least the american people, american electorate came together and said we need a serious minded individual to be the next president. i would also mention trump is

not a republican. if you look at the issues he cares about and spouts, he is clearly not a republican. he's certainly not a conservative. people who have begun to gravitate towards him because he is conservative, they just don't look at his record. he has wanted to continue funding for planned parenthood. he has supported single-payer universal obama style health care. he has been a person that went on the news this week and said george w. bush was the reason we had 9/11. he was only there for two months. these are not orthodox positions in the republican party. for someone to spout those positions and maintain a good portion of the early polling suggest we are lurking right now. we are not serious yet. once we get serious and sober after the summer hiof trump, we will see republicans go away

from him. >> at the end of the day, he is running in the republican primary. is there a silver lining to what you also described as -- does it put more pressure on candidates on both sides to step up and defend hispanic voters and energize them? end bee candidate at the able to cut through the noise and will it put more pressure to benefit voters? >> i think it provides an alternative for people like jeb bush and marco rubio and even senator cruz to be that other. i think senator cruz is banking on the fact that the people that are thinking will gravitate towards him. i think people like marco rubio. articulate, fresh new voices. and is also latino. he's brown skinned and one of us. i think that will begin to resonate with people who are

saying we have to be better about reaching hispanics. we saw those numbers in the last presidential cycle when romney got 32% of the hispanic vote nationwide. that will not cut it. george w. bush was in the 40's. we have to get back up into the 40's if we expect to have a chance. the only candidate that can do that are candidates that are more open-minded. i'm not saying to be less conservative, but we have to be much more thoughtful and engaged in this particular issue in order to attract the electorate we are seeking to attract which is pretty aboard for us to be the -- pretty important for us to be victorious. is callednel unlocking the hispanic vote. hispanics cannot turnout in the numbers they represent in the state. i want to go back to the opening one-on-one with the lieutenant

governor. he was asking about voting in texas. the lieutenant governor said he does not think texas needs to make it easier to vote. he said, "if people do not show up and vote, they are either happy or they don't care." is there anyone on this panel that agrees to that approach to get more hispanic voters out? >> let me interject real quick. good morning. be i don't think that should the premise. what we have done, at least in my office, we have been reaching out to campuses. there's a generational gap in voting right now. you have a lot of first-time voters that are very cynical. they don't trust -- that is the word i'm getting not just from hispanics. everybody across the board. i think we have to focus on how

we can get the hispanic vote. somewhatt's disingenuous. my role is to get everybody's vote out. i think it is great being nonpartisan now. ti think if you go back to mr. trump, i agree with what the panel said. he is not a republican. he may be an independent. i think what is somewhat concerning aside from the negative rhetoric is the fact there is actually a following. his message is resonating. i think -- i look at most of you when you are watching, i look at who was in the background and who wa is there. the ethnicity of the background and it is predominantly anglo-saxon protestant type.

you will see an african-american, asian american or hispanic, but i think the concern is here. let me deviate a little bit. everybody talks about the hispanic population and how it is growing. then, you have an asian constituency as well that is growing. if i'm speaking to first-time voters whether it is tcu or baylor or acc, whatever it is, the growth of the hispanic population really -- i hate to say this -- it is somewhat meaningless if we cannot generate and excite and engage people to go out and vote. it doesn't matter how fast any particular segment is growing if we don't exercise that right to vote. but, the message that came across from the college campuses is that of trust. they don't trust elected officials. there is a reason for that. it is kind of ironic.

the pollll congress., numbers are very low. then, when you go to any particular congressional district and you poll their particular congressperson, their numbers are much higher. there is something that is just not resonating. i got people that i'm trying to convince to go out and vote. we are not going to vote for the lesser of two evils. they will go out and vote and cast a blank ballot. all votes do matter. as far as reaching out to the hispanic population, the asian-americans, the african-americans, it is incumbent on everybody here to make sure those votes go out. >> i would like to speak as the only member of this panel who actually have the ability to do something about the fact we were not voting well. one of the ways we can do that is to change the laws. i was disappointed to hear dan

patrick's comments because i worked very hard to pass voting registration. it got a very late hearing despite having support from the senior republicans on the floor. 76 co-authors in a very late hearing. the hearing turned into a partisan attack to suggest that if you pass this bill, my republican colleagues would be in danger. my suggestion is taxes is already in grave danger because only 34% went out to vote last year. that should because for alarm and concern. what can we do? can we do same day registration? there are other dynamics for why people are not voting. but there are mechanical things that are in our control and iran had first -- i ran head first into what seemed to be a cement wall.

we must do more. >> i respectfully and very strongly disagree. we forgot how we got here. this country, you had to be free, white, male and own property to vote. it took a while before people realize something was wrong with that. [laughter] in the beginning of our great democracy, people thought that was ok. property.day i'll get you might be white. i think there is a tendency for people in government to look at life where they are. if you won in a low turnout election, high turnout election -- we should change the way we have been doing it. i happened to be the voter of a law. bill green but the bill into

law. he was a democratic legislature. there was an amendment on the sunset bill. as a result of the bill, i registered more republicans than anybody else in the history of texas. we are against it. i think they are responding to a knee-jerk reaction of a question of california's new system of automatic registration. california -- i'm against it. i hope we take a deep breath and sit back and think about it. we were in the lounge earlier. in the 1960's, the hispanic vote -- this is 1965, 1966. going to a catholic church, increase the minimum wage which was $1.25. the vote did not come out. the black vote didn't either. the dynamicchange

and not be doing stuff the way we always done. everybody is spending all of this money, the limited resources we have, an trying to register people to vote. think we should change it. we should look at what oreg on, california did. we should look at same day registration. technology lets us eliminate issues related to fraud. we should operate the same mentality that our founding fathers operated under. that on thed add one hand, yes, we need to make it easier for people to vote. i love the use of technology. i think we should be able to register the same day. we also should make it attractive. one thing that i don't agree with respectfully is that we put

all of this on votes. since we hispanic do not come out and vote how can we expect to change our nation? we decided let's to go for candidates. let's find young people, hispanics and invite them to run for office. yes, as republicans, but especially run for office. hispanics run for office. individuals like jason that will represent us, vote to the middle in many respects and represent the community. if you find a good candidate, you will come out and vote. i hope somebody is thinking about running for office. we need more good people running for office, not staying home and just watching what is going on. we need to cultivate hispanics that are flirting a little bit with running for office.

make sure they get money, an education and know what it means to run an office and then get the numbers. i'm sorry, but most of the candidates out there are not that interesting to hispanics. they don't offer anything for us. we should go out and have more responsibility. we need to be like israel over here where she did her campaign in her living room. she made it clear to them that she was interested in their life. it is not just going to be hispanics not running for office or african-americans. you had obama and african-americans came out in incredible numbers. distort numbers, they vote -- distort numbers -- historic numbers. we as hispanics tend to vote for the person, much more than the issues unfortunately. >> go ahead.

>> i agree with juan. you get so frustrated as a candidate. as a letober warning -- so rewarding as a latina, being able to connect with someone at their front door and whether it was an african-american voter where you can talk about their moms, or teachers or a latino voter. talking about that we are both from el paso. you make a connection and you get to know this is a woman at my door who has the ability to say she wants my vote. that is going to weigh much more heavily with any latino voter. voters arehow latino neither left or right. they are really up for grabs. anyone who overlooks them. -- i usedretty much to be a democrat and a republican. i ran three times as a democrat

for county commissioner. three times for county judge as a republican. i think you touched on it. you are right. it is up to the candidates versus the sos office to generate that interest. it is about the person. i think part of it -- when you have a county like cameron that is overwhelmingly democrat. 65% democrat. i was able to win three times against a pretty strong democrat where the straight ticket vote in cameron is 2.5 times of that of a republican. on election day, i'm down 8000 votes, but i think it is important to recognize it is about the candidate. speaking nonpartisanally, there was a lot of good r's and d's that have good ideas. neither party is a monopoly on good government or great ideas

or bad ideas. i think that is the message -- i did my door to door. i did my standing on the street corner by myself with a sign. in order for any candidate to get that vote and engage, they have to be able to connect. connect with the voter because everybody votes based on a personal impact or issue. what is important to them personally? that is what i have found. if you can get that message to resonate. to me, you know what? my goal is not to get out the vote. i don't think that is my role. i think the role of that is the candidate, the individual parties, nonprofits, whatever it is. our role is the provide information, educate voters, make it information that is readily available. today is not like the 1960's. you did not have twitter, facebook, instagram or cell phones.

it is important that all of us here keep stay in our swimming lanes. what is it we want to do? it is to get the vote out to make sure the hispanic vote gets out, the african-american vote gets out, everybody. that is the role. you have to connect. >> i would reverse the question a little bit. lowexas, we have such a voting participation. what state in the country that is predominantly -- we are fourth. second is new mexico. third is california. something is wrong when our levels are so much lower. the real question ought to be have we done things in texas that make it more difficult for people to vote? we are already at the bottom. have we made it more difficult? >> we have got, look -- if people want to vote, aside from the online and all that stuff --

let's go back. i don't know a whole lot about that have more than two weeks to vote. a different mobile voting site or different locations whether it is a school or church. we are given two weeks. can we get more? absolutely. for voter participation, i don't know. two weeks plus election day to vote. when that was implemented, we are getting bigger voter participation. today, 50% of all votes that are cast are done during the early vote. i have not seen the numbers go up significantly. they are about the same. your voting ethic will stay the same. the generational gap i spoke about, their is a generational gap between first and second time voters and their parents. ated to this if weighte

your parents were religious about going to church, there is a strong likelihood you will go to church. if they didn't, there is a strong likelihood you would not. the same thing goes for voting. and youngster is coming up saw their mom and dad going to vote every single election, that want me the to go vote. if they never talked about that, i will not go vote. what we are trying to do is to go out and reach out to those first and second time voters by going out to college campuses, speaking to 60, 70 students. you take one vote at a time. speaking to them and say, hey, if anybody want to get anything done, go to the school system. if you want to do recycling, whatever you want to do.

they take it home to their parents. this is what i want to do with voting. get these young adults, first, second, third time potential voters to get them engaged. right now, i think you are right. when you have somebody that is speaking negative, rhetoric and stuff without really knowing all the facts about the impact of mexican relations have with texas. it is the economy. somebody said that. the same thing. part of our message to go out and get students engaged and ask them the hard questions. why is it that you are not voting? i think it is trust, cynicism and they just don't care. >> talking to governor patrick for a moment. i think what he was suggesting is in texas today we have a situation where people vote, and if they don't vote it is not because of the impediments.

it is because we don't have candidates that are truly interesting to the voter electorate. he's saying we have eliminated most of these barriers. we have eliminated the property taxes. you can vote in texas. you have two weeks and then election day. if you are not going to the polls, you have chosen not to because you are on a different page or you are not interested. that is a real point. i know the senator would suggest there are existing impediments in place. i don't think that is what is driving the lack of voter participation. i think what is driving it is two things. there are fundamental issues where we have a very far right and far left population. the way the district are drawn, it is all republican or all democrats.

knowu are a democrat, you your primary vote is not going to be particularly relevant because it will be determined by republicans and their primary vote. if you are a republican, you know you are going to win and will vote relatively the sam e. that leaves a very distilled voter population. that only creates more emphasis becauses not to vote you are electing candidates that are very conservative. that wouldtes folks otherwise go to the polls. to touch on your argument about the voter identification law, i believe as a republican that we do have to balance the need to bring people to the polls with

this concern about fraud. sideantra from the other is there is never been fraud. i have served on the citizens elections committee in dallas county. i can tell you we had two volumes of things that went awry on voting day that related to fraud. we do have an issue with fraud in texas. there is a concern. the voter identification is to make sure the ballot is delivered in a way that in adherence to the existing law. having voter identification, you need that to run a car, get an airplane or get a tattoo. why not? i don't think it is asking too much. others have suggested recently that our law needs to be addressed. they didn't say it was unconstitutional. they said the way it is drawn,

it needs to be revised to expand the number of identifications. right. >> there is no effort to do any of went to get one more question in, but i do want to give you time to respond. >> it is clearly a modern-day gold tax and i think it is well worth reading. the real issue is if people think it was a real issue, why wouldn't texas do things like oregon, california to do automatic registration? why wouldn't we put more online? i would not we -- i would we show online who voted and who did not vote? i would not go as far as other countries do so you do not vote and you pay a penalty, but it encourages more people to turn up if you believe in democracy and i think all of us do. democracies work