we appreciate your time. we'll see you back here tomorrow morning, 7:00 eastern. have a great monday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] the ♪ational captioning institute, [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, >> republican senator tom cotton talking about disability benefits. in about two hours he will be speaking. a look at the future of afghanistan with the carnegie endowment for international peace and a discussion with someone who has been on the

ground there. we will get his view this afternoon at 3:30 eastern. .he house and recess returning the senate gaveling in at 3:00 eastern. senators will vote on the nomination of scott allen to be u.s. director of a european international development bank. work expected on authorization for defense programs. it live coverage of the senate is on c-span 2. having business before the honorable the supreme court of the united states drawn near and give their attention. opposed --e monsoon fred korematsu opposed internment. case allatsu took his the way to supreme court.

>> on c-span past landmark cases we will discuss the supreme court case of korematsu versus united states after the attack on pearl harbor. president roosevelt issued an evacuation order sending 120,000 people of japanese origin who lived close to military installations to internment camps across the u.s.. >> this is a re-creation of one of the barracks. the barracks were on defeat wide and divided into six different rooms. they did not have ceilings. it did not have masonite on the floor. it would have been freezing even in the daytime. the only heating they would have had would have been a potbellied stove. this would not have been able to heat the entire room in a comfortable kind of way. >> challenging the evacuation order, fred korematsu defied the order and was arrested at his

case went to the supreme court. find out how the court ruled with our guest peter irons, author of "justice at war," and karen korematsu, daughter of the plaintiff. exploring the mood of america and u.s. policies and we will follow mr. korematsu's life, coming up on the next "landmark eastern.onight at 9:00 for background on each case, order your copy of the landmark cases companion book. it is available at c-span.org /landmark cases. communicators,he we discussed cyber security threats facing the u.s. and

other countries. guest ands is our talks about what the u.s. is doing to avoid attacks by china and russia. cyber security legislation passed by the house and senate. on the program mr. lewis is joined by tim starks, cyber security reporter for politico. this mission to defend cyberspace but they have neither the authorities the resources. they need to think about critical infrastructure. the bill in 2012 would have dealt with critical infrastructure, probably not in the right way and you saw the obama administration put out an executive order in 2013 that imposed light requirements on critical infrastructure to protect networks. congress needs to ask if that is enough. ," watch "the communicators tonight on c-span 2.

>> during c-span's wrote to the white house coverage we attended a town hall meeting with hillary clinton. the current front runner spoke in orangeburg, south carolina for about an hour. [applause] >> glad to be back in south carolina. so glad to see all of you. we look forward to having a great conversation here am asking some great questions. i am the host of news one now on tv one. we have the first and only national morning show that speaks to the issues of african-americans. news for us by us. i am glad to be here at clafin, and we are looking for to a great conversation.

we are live streaming this as well and expect to be taking lots of questions. let's not wait any longer. let me introduce to you right now, folks, democratic presidential candidate, secretary hillary clinton. [applause] ♪ mrs. clinton: thank you. it is great to be here. mr. martin: we did not could .oordinate our outfits mrs. clinton: i told him, you look pretty sharp. mr. martin: you know, black coast, black show, black network. mrs. clinton: [laughter] you have to show me how you do that. mr. martin: my dad has taught me

well. mrs. clinton: [laughter] mr. martin: let's jump right into it. the job report came out for october. unemployment rate dropped. is there a need for a new deal 2.0 and a marshall plan that targets those most in need as , opposed to folks who say you can't do anything race-based, but if you do it needs-based, it will impact african-americans and latinos more than anything else? what is your plan for those who don't have the opportunities of others? mrs. clinton: first of all, i am really relieved and pleased that overall we are making progress. and i have gone across this country making the point that when president obama came into office, he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. and he doesn't get the credit he deserves for digging us out of handed that hee

was handed when he came in. [applause] mrs. clinton: so it has been a long, slow effort, which thanks to him and his leadership and many, many millions of americans, we are exactly where roland said we are, down to 5% unemployment. incomes are not rising. we have two big problems. one, we have to get incomes to go back out. and number two, we have to get more good jobs. and we do have, in my opinion, a targeted effort at people and communities that have not had the benefits of the recovery us thus far. we need to go further. we need, once and for all, to have a very big infrastructure program on our roads, bridges, tunnels, airports, rail system , where we can put millions of people to work. number two, we need to combat climate change by becoming the clean energy superpower of the 21st century. that means putting up wind turbines and installing solar

panels and doing energy efficiency work and all the work that will enable us not only to have the economy grow, but move away from fossil fuels. number three -- >> [applause] mrs. clinton: we need to start investing in small business. my particular hope is i can be the small business president. i want to focus on women and minority owned small businesses in our country. >> [applause] all of those things i think will make a difference. mr. martin: i want to deal with what you said about infrastructure. you talked about crating those jobs. historically, those labor unions have frozen us out. african-americans have not been able to get those construction jobs. so what would you say to those trade unions, stop freezing out black folks and other minorities from those opportunities? mrs. clinton: i think we have two problems. where people are frozen out, or equally importantly, not sought out.

i want to make sure every training program is reflective of our population. i want to provide an apprenticeship credit to companies, to unions, to others to train young people, particularly, but not just young anymore, roland. we have a lot of people who have lost their jobs were middle age and older, and they knew to be given special attention. labor unions are not the problem in much of the south because they are right to work states. so we have to make sure that anywhere we do infrastructure, if the federal government has any money into it, there must be a program for recruiting and hiring and, where necessary, training people from less advantaged communities. and that is going to be my -- mr. martin: you talked about the issue of small businesses. the "wall street journal," $29.9 billion handed out for small

business loans. african-americans got 1.7% or $382 million. in the last year of president bush 2008, it was 8.2% for african americans. housing prices had a lot to do with that. i have administrator and met. they're trying to do that. you have 1.9 million black-owned businesses who cannot get access to capital. how will you utilize the federal government to expand as opposed to, again, getting 1.7% of $23 billion? mrs. clinton: when i was a senator from new york, this is one of the big issues i had because the federal government has a lot of contracts, but sometimes it is difficult for small businesses to know how to apply for those contracts. the procurement rules are difficult. so i used to run a procurement

outreach program and a big conference where we sought out small businesses. and again, with a special emphasis on minority and women owned businesses. i think we have to do that all the time. you've got to have a much more vigorous effort to reach out and help people, number one, apply for the contracts that are available. there is, and i agree with this, there is a preference and the law for small businesses that are minority and women owned. i want to make sure that preference is translated into benefits and doesn't just sit on the books. mr. martin: but also have bureaucrats who make the job -- mrs. clinton: 100%. in my administration, what i want to do is set some goals and tell the people who work for me, this is what i want you to do. and if we really measure what we are doing, we can get results and we can change outcomes, i believe. mr. martin: 2010, i him eating

at the treasury department with two officials who said that black and hispanic firms outperformed everyone out on the management of funds. my follow-up question was, did they get more money? the answer was no. what you have here, you have a little boy system, largely whites from the treasury department. is there a perfect example of if you are president, you will tell your treasury secretary, you are ,o do what maynard jackson did what harrison did was say, no, you are going to expand those opportunities. if they are outperforming everybody else, they should get more business. mrs. clinton: if someone tells you that a group or a person is outperforming everybody else, your question is the right question. are you going to reward that person or business? my answer is yes. you mention a couple of examples. i think that when you look at the economy, there are

opportunities that we are not seizing on behalf of communities and individuals. and i don't think there is any doubt at all that we've got to do more to open doors and to rebuild those ladders of opportunity. when it comes to businesses, small business, minority and women owned, i am going to be vigilant and i'm going to drive people to get results. what i like about what you said is we are not doing this as charity, we are doing this as business. we want good business people to have more opportunities. when they do well, we need to reward that. mr. martin: last seven years, 53% of black wealth -- mrs. clinton: you talk so fast. am i talking too fast in response. raise your hand if you think we are talking too fast. mr. martin: i've got other stuff to ask. mrs. clinton: i know, i know. mr. martin: 53% of black wealth was wiped out in the home foreclosure crisis.

elizabeth warren said it will take two generations just for african-americans to recoup that money. one thing our government did not do -- and i will say this here -- one of the greatest failures of the obama administration has been the housing policies. will you, if you are president, force the federal housing finance industry to write down the principle of underwater homeowners and will you modify the bankruptcy code so that the people who have homes can maintain those homes and we not simply bailout banks and bailout homeowners? mrs. clinton: i advocated that back in 2007 and 2008, roland. in fact, i was very unhappy that we did not do enough to help people in their homes save their homes. i will look for ways to, number one, stop the damage so that we don't lose more homes because people still haven't recovered.

but number two, we've got to get back into the home ownership business. and a lot of financial institutions are reluctant to loan. and they are more reluctant to loan to african-american and latino -- mr. martin: distressed assets and now they are simply -- mrs. clinton: and i don't agree with that. i think that is wrong. now we are starting to see some of the bad behavior coming from the folks who want to those homes. they are forcing people out. a big article today about misleading people and forcing them to turn over their home under false pretenses. so, you are right, what happened in 2007 and is just beyond 2008 horrible. 9 million people lost their jobs. 5 million lost their homes. and $13 trillion in family wealth was wiped out, most of it in homeownership, but also iras, 401(k)s, college funds.

everybody had to take the money out in order to live. we have a lot of catching up to do, and it is not enough if just some people recover. i want to do it i can to help everybody recover. >> [applause] mr. martin: 1991, i graduated from college and i interviewed the birmingham news. all 16 editors there wanted to hire me. but to the hr department said, no because of my credit report. there are an increasing number of people across the country to -- who are being denied jobs for credit report. do you support maxine waters' bill that deals with the issue of repairing the fair credit act? and in most cases wiping out requirements to have folks go through credit checks when they are applying to jobs? federal contractors as well as federal agencies.

mrs. clinton: you know, that is -- i generally agree with that. i don't know the specific of the legislation, but i will obviously look at it . sometimes credit reports are wrong. but let's deal with that problem -- mr. martin: and her act deals with that. mrs. clinton: yes. and that is a serious problem for a lot of people. secondly, i think a lot of credit problems, particularly for young people, have to do with student debt, have to do with credit cards that they had to use in order to stay in college, in order to be able to get their education. there are a lot of reasons why i don't think you should have credit reports following you around like some anchor that you have to carry with you. so, yeah, i want people to be responsible, but i also want to make sure you've got a second chance. and it shouldn't be that you are denied a job that has nothing to do, as i understand working for the birmingham newspaper would have with your credit score. so we need to take a hard look at that. i will look at maxine's bill.

mr. martin: last friday, you were in atlanta. there were people there interrupting your speech. some folks chanted, "black lives matter." but do you fully understand the reticence of some folks when they say under your president he president, your husband he signed into law the crime , deal that has contributed to the mass incarceration problem? do you understand the sentiment and why not roll out your entire criminal justice program at one time as opposed to individual speeches? mrs. clinton: first of all, i do understand the sense of frustration and disappointment and even outrage that young people, like those that were in atlanta last week, feel because there are a lot of things that need to be fixed. and they are impatient, and they deserve to be impatient. and they deserve to hear answers from people like me running for

office. particularly president. i have had some very good, open, productive conversations with representatives of the black lives matter movement. i wish they had listened because a lot of what we have talked about together are part of the proposals i am making. and the reason we rolled them out -- and this is an interesting point to make to you as a leading member of the press -- as you get more attention paid to them. if you put them out one day, it is a one day story. so we have been rolling out, starting with the very first speech i gave in this campaign back in, i don't know, march or april, about criminal justice reform and we are going to keep doing that because i want people to look at what i am proposing. we are going to reduce minimum mandatory sentences. we are finally going to reduce the difference between powder and crack cocaine, which has been a terrible, unfair burden. we are going to ban the box and

let people apply for jobs. and only at the and come if they -- only at the end, if they get to that end, they can talk about whatever record they have. we have a very robust agenda, and i feel very committed to this and i particularly want young people who share the impatience and the disappointment -- and, you know, i think we should talk about going forward, but i will say back in the 1990's, that bill was in response to a horrific decade of crime and leaders of the communities of color and poor communities were in the forefront saying, you must do something. and it was done. and it did have a lot of positive, but also negative unintended consequences. that is why we have to take another look. that is what a democracy should do. look at the evidence and make

changes based on it. mr. martin: we are going to go to questions, but you mentioned mandatory minimums. why not get rid of all of them and allow judges to have discretion as opposed to mandatory minimums are folks who are in jail for 20 or 30 years for small offenses? ms. clinton: we want to get rid of the nonviolent low-level offenses as a way to go into prison. we think there is more diversionary work that can be done. this is like everything else. it cuts both ways. if you reduce the mandatory minimums, i believe we can see, does it reduce discrimination? and discrimination can be on both sides because what happens right now is that african-american men are far more likely to be arrested, to be charged, to be convicted, to be incarcerated for doing the same things as white men. so we want to reduce those minimums, but we also don't want to open the door to a different form of discrimination. we are looking hard at how this would be a pride in the real

-- be applied in the real world. mr. martin: questions? >> secretary clinton, thank you so much for being held this here this afternoon. i have elderly parents, a 16-year-old these and nephew preparing for college. what is the plan of accountability for companies for disparities in pay between men and women? how can we as women ensure that we are receiving equal pay for the same work? mrs. clinton: amen. amen. you know, i have to tell you, i do not do a town hall anywhere in america without being asked this question. and for all those republicans who say this is not a real world problem, i wish they would come to my town halls because i don't know who they are talking to because it is. and i think -- i think there are several things we do. number one, just talking about it. making sure people can't ignore it or diminish it or pretend it

is somebody else's problem. we have to enforce the laws that are already on the books. this is not just a women's issue, this is a family issue. an economic issue. and one of the things that stands in the way of knowing how widespread this is is the fact that in many businesses you can be fired for asking somebody else in the business how much they are paid. so a lot of women don't know they are being paid less than the men that they are working beside, doing the same job. that is what happened to lily, the woman in alabama who had worked in a big factory for years. she got promoted ok. she became the first woman foreman, i guess, or woman forewoman, and it was only by accident that she learned although there were four or five men doing the very same job she

, was being paid less. so i want to remove any doubt that transparency is acceptable, and if there needs to be changes in the rules or the laws about businesses so that they cannot retaliate, so that you can find out how much you are being paid so you can compare your pay to other workers in the same situation, i will tell you a really quick story. a young man came up to me in new hampshire and said -- he was in his mid to late 20's -- he said his first real job was working at a cashier at the same store his mother worked in. he was 17 and he was so proud because this was like his first job, and he got it because his mother introduced him to somebody. it was great. he comes home with his first paycheck. his mother looks at it and her face falls. she tells him you are making a dollar more an hour than i am and i have been there for years. -- i have been there four years.

and the manager said, well, yeah, you are a young man. we think you have a lot of potential to go up in the business. he said, what about my mother? so we are going to tackle this and we are going to end it once and for all. >> [applause] mr. martin: another question here. go ahead. >> roland, first of all, thank you for all you do. we are proud of you. mr. martin: i appreciate it. >> madam president. >> [laughter] mrs. clinton: your lips to god's ears, right? >> we have a problem here and most of the southern states and throughout the united states -- with guns. and we know the nra is just adamant about not doing anything to do away with these guns. but what we need to do is to find what will you do to get rid of all these guns that are on

the streets that are in the homes that are inadvertently killing youngsters in their homes? what will you do to help us out with that? mrs. clinton: this is an issue that i just think we have got to address. i understand how politically challenging it is. 90 people a day die in our country from guns. homicides, suicides, and avoidable accidents, like what the gentleman was referring to. and it is imperative that people make this a voting issue. i know we can balance the legitimate rights of gun owners with the right to be safe going to school are going to church. the right to have control over what happens in people going to stores to buy guns who shouldn't have them. so here is what i am proposing.

number one, we need universal background checks for real. we need to close the gun show loophole. we need to close the online loophole because people are buying guns and ammunition online. you have no idea who they are, and we know some of the mass murderers, that is how they got what they used to kill people. we need to close what is called the charleston loophole. the charleston loophole is, unfortunately, what enabled that young man to get a gun he was not entitled to. he was a felon. he had a felony conviction. but under the rules, three business days is all you get to find out. and the information hadn't been shared between two jurisdictions, so after three days, he went and he got that gun and he went to mother emmanuel and he murdered those nine wonderful people. and then we need to remove the immunity that gun makers and

sellers have. they are the only industry in america that we give blanket immunity to. you can do anything. gun makers should be required to apply technology that currently exists so that guns owned by responsible adults cannot be operated by children, or if they are stolen, cannot be used by criminals. and what i am just appalled at the numbers of young children -- i'm talking toddlers -- to go , or gointo a closet ,nder a bed, or open a drawer and there is a gun. and they kill themselves, they kill their siblings, they kill their friends, they injure people. that is crazy, my friends. i know the nra are powerful, but i think the american people are

more powerful. and the right to life is the most powerful of all. mr. martin: we are on the campus of an historically black college. what is your hbcu plans? because we talk about black doctors and black lawyers and black engineers. they are being graduated from hbcu's and will you reverse the obama administration's loan change that led to 15,000 students not coming back to hbcu campuses, millions of dollars lost? will you reverse that policy and what is your plan to assist? mrs. clinton: i have what is called, roland, my new college compact. it would affect both state and way.n in this if you are going to a public college or university, you will not have to borrow money to pay for tuition, and you will be able to use your pell grant, if you get one, for living

expenses. we are going to make it possible or young people to go to college, finish college, and graduate without that that. debt. that will help the public hbcu's because they will certainly be included. i have a special provision of a pot of $25 billion for hbcu's, including private institutions, because i agree completely with what roland said. these are the places that graduate black professionals. and we need to more, not fewer. and i will reverse the impact of the loan changes. you say you will reverse -- mrs. clinton: yes. first of all, my plan will mean that it is not necessary. but for those young people who dropped out, we have to figure out how to get them back in. >> [applause] mr. martin: question. >> good afternoon, secretary clinton, and thank you so much for coming to south carolina and orangeburg. as you know, we have lost a lot

of textile jobs here in south carolina over the past years, and my questions are do you , think your husband was right in signing nafta into law? and what will your administration do to bring back industrial-based jobs to south carolina? mrs. clinton: i know how controversial trade has been in south carolina, and south carolina is a classic case of winners and losers because of trade. the biggest losers have been the textile firms. a lot of those jobs, not just through nafta, but through differences in cost of production went to asia as well. i don't think we can blame the loss of the textile industry on nafta. i think it was broader than that. nafta may have opened the door more widely for jobs to go to mexico, but textile jobs were under global pressure, even without nafta.

what does that mean because the other side of the equation is that south carolina has attracted a great number of car companies, more advanced manufacturing companies? so it is kind of a news-bad news -- a good news-bad news story. what i want to do is make it possible to recruit internally within united states and externally from abroad more jobs -- and i'm not sure we can get textile jobs back unless they are more sophisticated, requiring higher levels of expertise in the dying and the printing and whatever else is required. but i do think we can get more advanced manufacturing jobs back if we provide more tax credit and more tech-support. support. if we do what i said at the very beginning, have more apprenticeship programs so we are training our workforce right here at home. the community college system is

one of our biggest advantages in any measurement of how we can be successful. and i have been to a good community college outside of charleston, which is doing these apprenticeship programs. but let me just say, we are not going to get those jobs back unless we have skilled workers to be able to do them. and that is where education comes in. because we have still too many people who don't have the skills that are required to do the advanced manufacturing. so i want a nationwide effort , but the focus on poorer states, like south carolina, to do more in a kind of, as you are saying, a new new deal or training program so we actually take seriously the idea we can get and keep these jobs. it is one of the reasons i came out against the transpacific partnership bill because we have to trade. we are 5% of the worlds population.

we have to build things and sell things to the other 95%. people who are against trade no matter what i think are kind of missing the point. we need smart trade and fair trade and affective trade and we eed to mix it with taking care of our own people. if you open the door to trade, which i am all for, you have to make sure that you have people in your own country who are able to compete for those jobs. the republicans are not for job training, they are not for rescaling the workforce. they don't want to spend any money on that. and i'm holding out to say, ok, we can do trade, but we can only do trade that is going to benefit the american people across the board if we invest in our own people and we give them the skills and opportunities to be successful. mr. martin: question. >> [applause] >> hello, my name is elaine cooper.

and i am from columbia, south carolina. i have a question. if you would address the voter id bill and voter suppression,, how our lines are drawn. i think a lot would help the situation with one comment that was brought up at the forum last night, and that is automatic registration of all 18-year-olds. automatically when you turn 18, you would be a registered voter. could you please comment? how you would go about doing that? mrs. clinton: actually, i propose that. i was the first person to propose that when i gave a speech at southern texas university. i received the barbara jordan award a couple months ago. and the reason i posted is because i believe strongly -- i proposed it is because i believe strongly that young people should be registered when they

turn 18. for legal reasons, they can opt out of that, but i don't think the vast majority would. you raise a much bigger point. you know, when the supreme court -- and these are my words -- gutting the voting rights act by rejecting the congress -- reauthorizing it, and i was in the senate to then, we voted to be authorize the voting rights act. the supreme court was basically sending a message to political leaders that they could begin to try to find new ways to interfere with the right to vote. that may not have been their intention, but that has been the result. so all these photo id you know -- we do not have a problem of any magnitude whatsoever. our problem is not people illegally trying to vote. our problem is that legal folks are not doing what they should to vote to make sure their

voices are heard. i'm going to keep taking on this issue and i think the supreme court was absolutely wrong. there is legislation now being promoted in the congress to undo the damage. but in the meantime, we need to have political action, litigation, mobilization against these efforts to suppress the vote. why are they doing that? there are some people they don't want to vote. alabama passed a voter id bill. and if they said, ok, one of the voter ids you can use is a drivers license with your picture on it. i don't believe they are necessary, but ok, you can use a voter id that way. then just a few months ago, they passed a bill and the governor asked to shut down the motor vehicle offices in the county's that have the biggest black populations.

i spent 18 wonderful years in arkansas and i learned a lot. and one of my favorite philosophy lessons is this: if you find a turtle on a fence post, it did not get there by accident. and so i went to alabama and i said, look, nobody can believe this. you don't close the offices in the counties with the biggest african-american vote and it is a coincidence. so people have got to stand up against this. i think there is time there be an outrage, an outpouring from communities across the state -- across the states that are doing this. i will do everything i can to help get people registered to make sure people understand they meet whatever the requirements are, and they then turn out to vote. because we need to have a big turnout and the 2016 election. mr. martin: we conducted a poll

of black parents and we asked them about charter school vouchers. 74% of black parents said they were interested in enrolling their kids in charter schools. we are in the state where brown versus board of education got its start. 61 years, black folks are still waiting for education to get right. do you support the expansion of charter schools and school vouchers? black parents say they are not satisfied with what is happening in traditional public schools. mrs. clinton: i have, for many years now, about 30 years, supported the idea of charter schools. but not as a substitute for the public schools, but as a supplement for the public schools. >> [applause] mrs. clinton: and what i have -- what i have worked on through my work with the children's defense fund and my work and education in arkansas and through my time as first lady and senator is to continue to say charter schools

can have a purpose, but there are good charter schools and there are bad charter schools. just like there are good public schools and there are bad public schools. mr. martin: so let's get rid of all the bad. mrs. clinton: but the original idea behind the charter schools roland, was to learn what worked , and then apply them in the public schools. here is a couple of problems. most charter schools -- i do want to say everyone -- most charter schools don't take the hardest to teach kids. or if they do, they don't keep them. and so the public schools are often in a no-win situation because they do, thankfully, take everybody and then they don't get the resources and help and support that they need to be able to take care of every child's education. so i want parents to be able to exercise choice within the public school system. not outside of it. but within it because i am still a firm believer that the public

school system is one of the real pillars of our democracy. and it is a path for opportunity. but i am also fully aware that there are a lot of substandard public schools. but part of the reason for that is that policymakers and local politicians will not fund schools in poor areas that take care of poor children to the level that they need to do. and you could get me going on this because the corridor of shame right here in south carolina, you get on their and there and you can see schools that are literally falling apart. i have seen the terrible physical conditions. it is an outrage. it is a rebuke to who we are as americans to send any child to a school that you wouldn't send your own child to. and so, we have a lot of work to do to make sure that public schools serve people, but that

doesn't mean we also provide -- doesn't mean we don't also provide options within the system so that parents can find what they think might work best for their kid. mr. martin: we have a question here. do we have a question? >> we can either go to grad school or into the workforce. with going into the workforce it is mostly paying back loans. you're starting a campaign where you are trying to lessen the gap between the minimum wage and top payers. what you put a cap on top or will the waterfall keep going upwards? ms. clinton: let me say this about student debt. i want to refinance everyone's student debt and the amount you have to pay back will be manageable for you. >> [applause] ms. clinton: what's happening now is young people graduate with all this debt and you often have to go into the workforce because you have to pay it back.

i want to put an end date to the debt. if you have been diligent in paying it back there has to be an end date. i want to give more young people the option to come into income contingency repayment programs like i had. a percentage of income not a fixed interest rate. we will get the cost of student debt down. the other problem is we need to get the pay of people who are in the workforce up. it is not going up. that was one of the first points i made. we recovered millions and millions of jobs. we are down to 5% unemployment but pay has not yet been rising. we've got to do more to get pay to go up and there are obvious things to do like raise the minimum wage and that usually has an upward impact on wages going up the scale.

i want more companies to engage in profit-sharing because their employees help to create the profits and i want to see it not just go to the top. were going to make sure that people who are making huge salaries pay their fair share in taxes. where going to go after the problem of wages not rising so that you can get your debt down and hopefully your income up. mr. martin: question, right here. >> in 1989 we passed legislation by congress to allow them to bailout the savings-and-loan. the present bailed out the banks. we said those banks had to inate community reinvestment the community reinvestment act which is expansion of that legislation. as i listen to martin talk about what banks have done in terms of collecting those properties ensigns the bailout we have seen very little if any things being done i banks and community reinvestment.

what will you do to get these banks back moving to invest back in our communities? ms. clinton: great question. i believe in the community reinvestment program. something that democrats have had to defend against republican attacks for decades. there are good examples of it working but increasingly in later years it has not. there are two approaches. the treasury department and the bank regulators need to ensure that banks are meeting their obligations under community reinvestment. there are a lot of programs we can point to. we can show them what to do and what will work to create economic opportunity. you mention shore bank, and then in arkansas i helped to start the arkansas development corporation. in addition to getting conventional banks to do

what they can we need southpment banks like s shore and what we did in arkansas for positive effects. there is a big fight going on in washington about the dodd frank bill and the rules that it placed on the banking community primarily aimed at the biggest banks that were contributors to some of the problems we had let the mortgage and other problems we were talking about. a lot of community banks say those rules fell on us to o. i want to, without giving relief to the big banks, because i think they need to be regulated so that i'll get us in trouble again, i want to provide some opportunities for community partners inmore investment. during the great recession south

shore what out of business. >> good afternoon. i am a junior here. with more states legalizing marijuana for medical and recreational use, what is your position on prohibition? ms. clinton: i believe states are taking this step. there is that phrase attributed to roosevelt that states are the laboratories of democracy. i want to see how it works before we do a national plan from the federal government because i think there is a lot for us to learn. what i want is for us to support research into medical marijuana become a lot more states have passed medical marijuana men have legalized marijuana. we have two different experiences or experiments going on now. the problem with medical marijuana is that there is a lot of anecdotal evidence about how well it works for certain

conditions that we have not done any research because it's considered a schedule one drug and you can't do research. i would like to move it from schedule want to schedule two so that researchers at universities, the national institute of health, can start researching how much does to someone need, how does it interact with other medications. if were going to have states setting up marijuana dispensaries so that people who have some kind of medical need are getting marijuana we need to know what the quality of it is, how much of it should you take, what should you avoid it taking other medications. mr. martin: speaking of research. will you push for a dramatic increase in federal funding for a cure for sickle cell anemia? ms. clinton: amen. yes i will. how many people know some buddy

here with sickle cell? disease.evastating i know several people. actually, it -- was last week i was at the naacp banquet in charleston. a young woman in high school gave a tribute and she came over and talk to me. she was diagnosed with sickle cell when she was a young child and she has been in and out of the hospital. she now goes to the medical center in charleston to get transfusions every month. another friend, a young lawyer has sickle cell. she is really smart and works really hard and she has to going to the hospital. this is a devastating disease. i think we need to put more money, more effort, more time into figuring out how we will cure and end sickle cell anemia. >> [applause]

>> good afternoon mr. martin and secretary clinton. when i had the pleasure of meeting you a few minutes ago you mentioned you were a girl scout. what character traits did you learn while scouting that you would use to be a successful president? ms. clinton: such a great question. let's give this young man around of applause. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, or >> [applause] ms. clinton: in addition to the merit badge things you learn, i learned about teamwork, cooperating with other people, i learned how important it is that when you say you're going to do something you do everything you can to keep your word and do it. hasarned about how scouting , for so many decades now help

young men and women learn of the things they might not have learned. my family was not a camping family. we drove every year from chicago to pennsylvania to see my grandparents. we slept in the car. we weren't into the forest and the woods and all of that. i learned specific things as well as general values and character traits that i think are really important for everybody to learn. with scouting, has made a big difference. mr. martin: if you are a veteran or in the military, please stand up. >> [applause] mr. martin: stay standing. , a few weeks ago you talked about the va scandal not being as widespread as reported. veterans day is november 11. typically when a president

appoint a secretary of veterans is not considered major. i believe we will make that just does important as the ag, defense secretary, secretary of state. what is your commitment to ensuring that the department of veterans affairs is the best federal agency and will you make that a fundamental priority if you're president? ms. clinton: the answer is yes. there are certainly systemic problems with the va and they need to be fixed. it is an outrage if anybody has been mistreated or left untreated by the va. i also believe the va has done good things. republicans are trying to privatize everything. education, social security, va.care, the

i will appoint someone with proven management experience will weed out those are should not be there in the first place and programs that are not working. take what is good about the va and make sure it is available to all of our veterans. that is my goal. >> [applause] mr. martin: i've always said that broke is broke whether you are broke white or broke black. it is interesting that we have a discussion about poverty it is a was a black face. if you are president, how would you drive a conversation to get white america who is broke to understand that your education, your health, your lack of economic access, is the same as african-americans and others and how do you see having that discussion? rural communities have the same fundamental problems as inner-city communities but somehow think they are totally different.

ms. clinton: that is a fair point. mr. martin: i'll think cnnmr. martin: or msnbc will answer that question. ms. clinton: it is a fair point. poverty is debilitating no matter where it happens or who it affects. there are such a lack of understanding in our country about the number of poor white folks. we just had a study come out that said poor white middle-aged americans without a high school education are dying at a higher rate than they have ever died before. addiction, alcoholism, suicide. poverty is poverty. there is a great idea that congressman jim clyburn has put together called 102030. 10% of federal funds would go to

communities were 20% of the poverty andiving in have done so for more than 30 years. mr. martin: two thirds of those counties are republican counties are . ms. clinton: and white. this would be a recipe for dealing with poverty everywhere based on the numbers. if you are living in an impoverished generational situation, you need help. the government should not be turning its back on you. i'm in favor of empowerment. one of the programs my husband put into place, the new markets tax credit, used to help hold up poor rural community -- to build up poor rural communities. it has been allowed to lapse. there are tools at our disposal but the point that you make is especially important.

we need to be talking about this so that the caricatures and stereotypes that too often flood the media are once and for all retired. mr. martin: would you as running for president do what bobby kennedy did?going to the delta gave a different view and all the cameras that follow you, bring them to those areas and say, these are broke white people who are poor and this is what poverty looks like, not some black single mother in chicago or detroit. ms. clinton: it was the delta -- a lot of republican governors are not expanding medicaid. that is leaving hundreds of thousands of poor people, black and white, to the mercy of the emergency room.

doesthe for them to be able to get the health care they need. the prior democratic governor in arkansas expanded medicaid, got a special waiver from the federal government to do it a way that he could get it through legislature. hundreds of thousands of poor arkansans got it. louisiana, their republican governor running for president would not do it so hundreds of thousands of people were left out. i do not know how you justify that especially since the federal government is paying 100% of the cost until it will pay 90% of the cost. we want people to be well. you talk about this recent study i mentioned where you have middle-aged white folks killing themselves, getting addicted to drugs and alcohol, not getting help for mental illness or substance abuse, that is a health problem.

people are often times and rubble areas especially, not as -- rural areas especially, not as reachable through health systems. i think we've got to look at this from the perspective of, what do we do to make our country healthier and the people most in need of that are poor people. wherever they live and whoever they are. i feel passionately about this. my first job out of law school was with the children defense fund. >> [applause] mr. martin: ms. clinton: my first job was coming to south carolina --ms. clinton: my first some familiar? we made progress, but then we kind of fall back. you cannot grow weary, doing the work that is necessary to help people have dignity and develop their own potential. that is what health is about. if you do not have that, you don't have anything.

mr. martin: last question for me. black women, stand up. black women. clinton, if you become president of the united states, and if you had to appoint some into the supreme court, which you a point a black woman to the -- will you appoint a black woman to the supreme court? [applause] sen. clinton: do we have some candidates here? i will certainly consider people who have the energy and the intellect and the experience to be on the supreme court. and probably on the younger side, because i want them to be there for a long time. [applause] mr. martin: we have a whole list. it would be good to see a sister on the supreme court. i am just saying. all right, we have one question over here. could you stand up? go ahead. shout it out. >> remember when you were here before? sen. clinton: yes i do.

aboutas asking you [indiscernible] i want to say, i ask you to sign a napkin for me to give to my mother. mr. martin: just take a picture. [applause] >> something so simple and then bill clinton came to south carolina and i was in the audience and i said who i was, and he said, i want my bible. [applause] mr. martin: are you trying to meet chelsea next? what is your question?

my question was, we were talking about youth empowerment and i -- and i told you at that time i was working at felton. we were talking about youth empowerment and i now see as a part of your platform, youth empowerment. i also heard you said today, grassroots, small children. what is your plan when elected president, that you have for identifying like other countries, the cream of the crop and channeling those children from children up to be prepared when these job tonight is open up? sen. clinton: that is a really good question. if you have not seen one of those bibles, i recommend that you do. it is such an extraordinary part of south carolina history. i thank you. as you can tell, my husband was jealous. which is ok. look, i think you have to start with the families and the parents of little children.

and i want to do more through communities, through churches, through other institutions to help every parent understand that he and she are the child's first teachers. and to do what we know can work to get those children better prepared for school. i think talent is universal, but opportunity is not. there are a lot of really smart kids who do not get the chances that they deserve. that is why we need universal prekindergarten, because we need to start with kids who really deserve that extra help. so when they get to school, they are better prepared to learn. i do think what you are saying makes sense and it goes back to the point we were talking about earlier about schools. when i was first lady of arkansas, we did a very comprehensive overhaul of our school system.

changing the curriculum, putting more demanding requirements in, but we also recognize that it was difficult in a rural state like arkansas, and a rural state like south carolina, to provide all of the opportunities for everybody, everywhere. so i helped to start the arkansas school format and -- arkansas school format and science. and -- for math and science. it is a boarding school, a public boarding school, so that young kids interested in science and technology, engineering and mathematics, can apply to go there if they are in a small district that does not have the courses that they are looking for. i would like to see us do more of that across the country. there are some states that have done this, some of them do it for performing arts.

i started with science and technology. because -- there are other kinds of studies. it is not possible to provide everything in person, which is why we also need to do more through technology and online learning, but you a few -- but if you are in a poor school and you do not have the computers or the tablets and don't even have the school wired and don't get high-speed internet, it is pretty hard. your kids are going to fall behind. my highest priority is, let's raise everybody up, and let's provide some special opportunities for kids who want to go further in the areas of their expertise or what they want to learn. mr. martin: final comment. or was that it? sen. clinton: let me thank you for doing this. and let me thank news one and everybody who is a part of this, and especially to the university for hosting us. [applause] sen. clinton: i gave the

commencement here back in 2007, and i'm so honored to be back. as i have told some of the state elected officials who are here, i want to be a good partner. i want to end by saying this. a president can do a lot and should. and i will work as hard as i know how to find common ground, even with people that i don't agree with politically, because if we can find common ground on something important, we should go forward together. but i also want to be a partner to those making change in state legislatures in communities across a state like this. because a president can also do things that are not in the formal job description. so that i can convene groups and we want to know what is the best way to improve job training for advanced manufacturing. we are going to get people who are doing and know how to do it together and will come up with a plan to try to sell everybody

about doing that. so, convening, catalyzing upnge, connecting people like the arkansas bank corporation, which i helped to start. let's find out why it succeeded and why south shore did not, and how we could do more of what works in communities like those here in south carolina. and i want to be a coordinator and connector so that we get people to really understand what we are capable of doing, no matter where we are. do not wait for somebody in washington. make the political demands, what you need from washington. try to hold your elected officials accountable. and if we could get voter registration up in south carolina your elected officials , would look different than they look right now in many parts of the state. and so, we have to work in a partnership, from the grassroots up, and from the top down, and we have to give more people the

tools to make the best decisions for their own lives. that is what i grew up doing that is what i learned to do, , and that is what i will do as your president. [applause] mr. martin: all right. that is it for us. i do have to ask you, do you know how to wobble? sen. clinton: i don't. mr. martin: you just lost the black vote right there. the black folks on your step -- one year campaign will ask -- will teach you how to do it. sen. clinton: i have to see it in order to do it. mr. martin: you need some music. sen. clinton: who can show me? come on, don't be shy. mr. martin: i told you we do it a little bit different. sen. clinton: don't leave me hanging here. mr. martin: should i put my ipod on? i have music. [laughter] mr. martin: you know i will put it on. secretary clinton, and is a

pleasure. thank you so very much. a round of applause, please democratic presidential , candidate, secretary hillary clinton. [applause] mr. martin: i told you that we need the music. i need everybody to stay in place, please. she will come out to shake hands. all of you stay in place. thank you very much. ♪ mr. martin: you do have music. ♪

mr. martin: let's give the black caucus a round of applause, please. [applause] ♪ you are going to hear me roar >>

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including the latest from the key primary state of south carolina. morrongiello is joining us to talk about campaign 2016. morrongiello, from the primetime debate, the near constant pulling their sort of a national five of this election. ground happening on the in a key primary state like south carolina that the national stories are missing? guest: what is the biggest things i saw is the fight among the democratic candidates to earn the black vote in south carolina, is a large portion it goes to democratic candidates in the primary. over the weekend, all of the democratic candidates, martin o'malley, hillary clinton, bernie sanders arrived in south carolina for the first presidential forum. sandersthe message

delivered was tailored to african-american voters. subsequently on saturday, he spoke to an all-white audience of white democratic women when hillary clinton was in what they call, the corridor of shame, a rural area heavily populated by african-americans. you are seeing different approaches to reaching that demographic, to earning their trust and support, and hillary clinton did an amazing job this weekend doing that. whether you agree with her not, she is getting in, talking to voters, making sure their issues are addressed whereas senator sanders is pandering to the typical crowd he has surrounded himself with. host: is there such thing as winners of forums? guest: in debates, certainly, but the forum was filled with softball questions.

it was not really an opportunity were either candidate could stand out. they were not forced to address each other directly. it was a one-on-one with msnbc's rachel maddow. there were strengths and weaknesses for each candidate but in the days that followed, clinton demonstrated she serious about her ground campaign in south carolina. host: we talk about softball questions and scrutiny of the media. we showed a clip of ben carson, saying he has been the subject of unfair levels of scrutiny. "carson, rubio strike back at the media and rivals." through thee bit carson campaign strategy in dealing with these latest questions about his biography. been, the strategy has this is an effort on behalf of the liberal mainstream media to attack my campaign, to go after

my strength right now. voters in nearly every primary state view him as a trustworthy and honest candidate said to break that down and get through that, there are constant attacks being launched on him right now regarding the scholarship he was allegedly offered from west point. some of these claims he has made about an instance where he was at a popeye's chicken and had a gun pulled on him. several comments he has made over the years in the books he has published. the carson campaign is trying to spin this and say look, this is an unfair amount of scrutiny time subject to, nothing like the scrutiny that president .bama went through it is nothing like several other candidates have gone through. i have to disagree with that, you can as i think if you are running on your autobiography, which ben carson is because he does not have political

experience, you have to expect people to scour through the books you have written and look into every story that is a part of that autobiography. it is interesting for him to say, this is unfair. you are running for the highest office in the country. you should expect to be vetted at this level. host: ben carson getting some sympathy from perhaps an unexpected source. >> let me quickly ask you about this ben carson subject, because you have seen people leak out stuff you wrote 30 and 40 years ago. is this fair game? >> no. look, i listened to the interviews with dr. carson and it is interesting, but you know what? the american people want to know why the middle class of this country is disappearing, why we have 47 million people living in poverty, why we have massive income and wealth inequality. when you look at dr. carson to

the best of my knowledge, this man does not believe climate change is caused by human activity. he wants to abolish medicare impacting tens of millions of seniors, and he wants to give tax breaks to the rich. i know it is a crazy idea, but maybe we focus on the issues impacting the american people rather than just spending so much time exploring their lives of 30 or 40 years ago. the reason that so many people are turned off to the political process i believe has a lot to do with the fact that we are not talking about the real issues impacting real people. host: this frustration about lack of focus on the issues also shown by republican chris christie this week as there were so many media stories about whether he would and would not make the next primetime republican debate. how much focus has there been from the candidates just asking the media to focus more on these issues than sort of the

day-to-day horserace? tremendous amount, and especially after the last republican debate, nearly all of the republican candidates said, this debate did not focus on the issues, the plight of middle-class americans. we need to address our platforms. a number of candidates are requesting that they be given a minute and a half to two minutes to discuss their tax plan in the next debate. governor chris christie, during the last debate he went after marco rubio, jeb bush, carly fiorina, donald trump for focusing on their achievements as opposed to their platforms and policy prescriptions. there is a tremendous amount of concern that the messages are getting over, swept under the rug over all these antics that are happening on both sides. going forward, we have the next debate this week.

i think all of these candidates hope to have more of an opportunity to share their vision for the country as opposed to agreeing with each other. host: gabby morrongiello is our guest for about the next 40 minutes or so, the politics reporter with "the washington examiner." phone lines, democrats, (202) 748-8000, republicans, (202) 748-8001 (202) 748-8002 independents. caller: good morning. my comment is about scrutinizing the candidate. ben carson is not opposed to scrutinizing and i believe that he believes, like me, that all presidential candidates, in fact all political candidate should be scrutinized. what he is opposed to, as i am opposed to, as much of the public as opposed to, they do not believe the media because the media lies.

guest: earlier this week we saw been carson hold a press conference where he took questions, fielded questions from a handful of reporters, so he is on top of that. he is addressing these concerns the media is raising, that at the same time he has said the comparison of scrutiny he has been subjected to completely lacks when you look at president clinton, several other candidates who have run for the democratic nomination in past years. understandsn carson every presidential candidate needs to be vetted but he claims the extent to which he is being vetted is more unfair than any other candidate in past. otherhow would you think republicans jump on this issue in the upcoming debate? guest: i do not think this is an issue that a number of republicans will address, because they'd prefer to not bring up the fact of campaigns

being vetted. we have already seen a number of candidates, donald trump particularly, have to answer to stories about his history of supporting higher taxes and things that are incompatible with the conservative agenda. he has raised that issue. marco rubio over the weekend has faced questions about his spending when he was in the florida house of representatives. really, all of these candidates understand this is a normal part of the political process that they are going to have to face. ben carson has specifically raised that issue, saying republicans are perhaps looked at a little bit more closely than the democratic candidates. host: for a look at how ben carson has risen in the polls, this is a real clear politics chart. polling numbers from june of last year, you can see all the different candidates. ,he two lines to keep in mind

the top line, the blue line of donald trump's polling numbers and the redline of ben carson recently catching up to donald trump. donald trump ahead in the most recent cnn iowa poll that is out there. that poll having trump at 25, carson and 23, followed by rubio , cruise, and so on down the line. we are taking your calls in the segment of "washington journal." jeb bush and his reboot of his can fix it has been the theme of the reboot. i want to show a little bit of the video released. >> that is the only way we fix this. a person cannot say it is somebody else's fault. a president cannot say, you are fired and roll to commercial.

a president has to fix the things that are absolutely broken right now. our federal government is holding us back and i know how to fix it, and i will do that host:. as far as reboots of a campaign, what do you think of jeb can fix it? guest: it is not as much of a reboot on his message. in this initiative he is continuing to talk to voters about his record. so far we have not seen that work for him. he has gone after several candidates. that has not worked for him. his fundraising numbers are down. currently facing a crossroads where he has to overcome the hurdle of marco rubio rising in the republican field. this is someone he meant toward who is now courting donors that supreme it -- that previously supported bush. he has to make sure they are aware he is doing what he can to increase his poll numbers, to

get out there and get his message heard. , it has nots reboot done much and i do not think we will see it do much unless he has a stellar performance in the next debate. really it is not doing much for him. host: jeb bush, marco rubio. it's go to florida where frank is waiting on our line for republicans. caller: good morning, everyone. i was watching hillary clinton talk the last couple of days at that black college in south carolina. , one ofsaid something the students asked her a question about gun control and how innocent people are being killed in some cases by these guns that are in people's houses and loaded. she said, yes, these innocent people, their lives are precious, they have dignity and potential and a right to life,

which i agree with wholeheartedly. however, she does not apply the same standards to the unborn little black girls and boys who she advocates allowing to be killed and their mothers' woman's. i do not understand how she can say that about those who are born and not about the little black girls and boys who are unborn. she advocates allowing their mothers to kill them in the womb. guest: that is one of the biggest areas of disconnect that republican candidates have pointed out in terms of the message on behalf of democrats. carly fiorina has been a leading critic of hillary clinton on her record regarding women's issues, equal pay, abortion, reproductive rights. to her remarksat on gun rights and gun control and gun safety legislation.

and protecting innocent children, innocent persons across the country, but not having this thing -- the same stance when it comes to protecting the unborn. hillary clinton has had to answer to this in the past and will continue to, especially when she goes up against a republican candidate if she is the democratic nominee. clinton woos black voters in south carolina as sanders sticks to his typical crowd." coatesville, pennsylvania, on the line for democrats. caller: i just wanted to take to accept -- take exception to the statement that both parties do it. host: according to what? caller: your guest stated the ridiculous campaign stunts is by both parties. with ben carson being under scrutiny, everything that he has

written, they are just proving that he has embellished the facts. he had some really crazy ideas. if that does not need to be out there in front of the voters, i do not know what does. e.ank you, by guest: there are certainly issues that both have had to answer to but with these concerns were brought up record,g ben carson's he held a press conference, fielded questions and address these concerns whereas hillary clinton has really not held any sort of long press conference where reporters have been able to ask her about her e-mail scandal, about some of the concerns. she is actually shut down a press conference a couple months henry from fox news asked her about that.

some of these claims may prove to be true, and at least he is out there and addressing these concerns, which is something that he can honestly say we have not seen from hillary clinton. camp has hillary clinton's said the 11 hour grilling they had before the house committee, today say that has been enough to address some of these concerns? guest: that is certainly the way they would spin it but that his testimony before congress. you also need to speak to members of the press and hillary clinton has been one of the least willing candidates to do so. , we saw her summer corral reporters at an event. she has done a couple interviews over the summer and most of them have been softball interviews so she is really not taking the hard questions. i think that is one of the reasons her favorability numbers are down and why many americans boost her desk view her as dishonest -- view her as

dishonest. easley, south carolina, line for democrats. caller: good morning. i would just like to say, ben , the lady, whatever her name is, they have no record. why is it not fair for the media to build them a record? seem to be squinting a little more towards the right because hillary clinton has a record, a real long one and it is a good one. ben carson has no record. you see him getting mad because they are choking him out. he is saying stuff that makes no sense and you keep trying to stand him up, and i think you are doing it just because he is black.

or because he is a republican and he has no agenda. he said something to the president a few months ago about the worst thing since slavery, and people have pushed him to run for president. that?white americans see he does not want to be that. i will listen to your remarks if you have got any. host: gabby morrongiello, do you want to jump in? guest: i am a firm believer in every candidate being forced to answer the tough questions. i think ben carson and hillary clinton and every other person running needs to face the point where there are concerns being raised and the have to answer these tough questions. again, he has been open to answering these questions. he may be scrutinizing the media. at least he is out there

dressing -- addressing them. this is something stated matter-of-factly that we have not seen hillary clinton do. i am neither defending nor criticizing ben carson, but i do want to point out that he is actually fielding questions and answering to some of these tough concerns being raised. host: in terms of the policy issues that candidates ask therters, let's return focus to what is ben carson expected to release some more deeper policy position papers? guest: that is one of the criticisms we have heard. his campaign has not mentioned when they plan to do that. we have yet to see a firm tax plan from ben carson, which is something that marco rubio, donald trump, jeb bush, nearly

every other candidate has released. he has spoken on his tax plans and economic message, but it is very vague. i think that is something perhaps in the next debate he will need to bring up, to address. another issue is foreign policy. you have a number of candidates with significant foreign policy chops, carly fiorina and marco rubio specifically to have dominated. carson, that, ben is an area where he does not have a lot of expertise and he needs to prove that he is capable of handling america's foreign affairs. host: roberta is next, line for independence. caller: good morning, i enjoy the show. i havewanted to say was, never seen in all my years of watching politics, anyone delving into lake ben carson's childhood friends, and people in school 40 years ago.

my question is, why don't you ever see a reporter on the liberal side delving into what happened in benghazi, questioning all the people that were on the ground, questioning people as to whether or not they thought that they could go in and help the ambassador? because he is not a politician, they always want to get these gotcha questions because he is not a politician. i have not made up my mind yet but i have never seen this happen. i and 77 years old and i do not ever remember seeing such slanderous questions. i really, really upset. i feel that there are candidates , when barack obama was coming up, i never saw them delve into his childhood friends, his mentor who was a communist.

this man is such a reputable, honorable man, i cannot believe that this is going on. i disagree with the last caller. i feel that given the chance to state his policies, not his childhood friends, on whether he did or did not do something, i just feel that that is totally wrong. host: gabby morrongiello, do you want to jump in? guest: i would just jump in and say that is the leading criticism we have heard, that it is unfair to be asking him about childhood friends that he claims to have trouble remembering. i will say that we did hear a lot about jeremiah wright when president obama was being vetted in 2008, but ben carson has certainly raised these concerns. he is delivering the same message that you just said, and that none of the other candidates are being forced to answer from some of these claims that date decades past.

definitely one of the main defenses on his behalf. host: we have talked about what ben carson's cap has been saying. it's show ben carson on "meet the press." >> vetting is a normal part of the process. did you not expect this? >> i have always said i expect to be vetted but being vetted and what is going on with me, you said this 30 years ago, 20 exist, i, this did not have not seen that with anyone else. thatu can show me where has happened with someone else, i will take that statement back. >> i think almost every person who has been president -- >> not like this. many other people who are politically experienced tell me they have never seen it before, either. >> we do not think bill clinton

or the president with his birth certificate -- >> not even close. you think is going on, why you? >> because i am a threat. >> to? >> to the progresses, the secular progressive movement in this country. they can look at the polling data and see that i'm the candidate who is most likely able to beat hillary clinton. host: gabby morrongiello, his camp has said if there has been an ups side -- upside it is in the funding. guest: he has raised a little over $3 million in the past week since the last debate. ben carson has fun raised off of controversial comments he has made in the past and also things the media has brought up. he made some comments about

having a muslim president, and his fundraising number shot up after that. if anything, this is beneficial to ben carson's campaign in terms of raising but could have an impact on independent voters who are looking at him and perhaps questioning after some of these claims have been made, whether or not he is in fact a truly honest individual. host: turning the mirror back on the media, here's a front-page story noting that only 7% of journalists say they are republican. a recent study found 28% of journalists call themselves democrats while 7% call them republicans. both of those numbers are down from the 1970's. that is in "the washington times." paul from indianapolis, indiana on the independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just wanted to point out i

think dr. carson is right. if you listened to rachel maddow yesterday on the press -- on "meet the press," she was carrying on and obviously he was unqualified to be president acause you said he got scholarship to west point. but really, what are they picking on? stuff that happened decades ago that is very minor. nobody has actually said he was born to wealthy parents in the hamptons or that he was not a brain surgeon or did not save lives or run a hospital. all of this stuff is minor. certain branches of the press are trying to tear down his attacking very small points and pretending that they have some meaning. it seems to me that dr. carson's right, they are desperate to stop this man. thank you very much.

host: you might be interested in the editorial board of "the wall street journal." the carson crucible is one of two editorials. carson says voters want somebody who is not a politician and gop voters are entertaining will be, but voters looking for policy and political confidence as much as character. they want somebody who can beat hillary clinton and who they can imagine sitting in the oval office." do you agree with that? guest: most definitely. carson has to back up his message of running off his autobiography, with policies. he is ahead of hillary clinton in a number of general polls but in order to maintain that lead, he is going to have to deliver some more in-depth policies and

address these areas where he has a lack of expertise. fellow republican candidates the democratic candidates, there are some concerns among them and voters that these three outsider , doidates -- i'm sorry, two not have enough experience to be commander in chief. it is certainly something he is going to have to continue to address. host: darlene is waiting in st. paul, minnesota, ein for republicans. caller: i have a couple things. first of all, you had mentioned beingpresident obama scrutinized about his relationship with jeremiah wright and things like that. i point out it was only fox news that was vetting that as an issue. you never heard, to my knowledge to this day, anything from the left-wing media about that. obama's college

transcripts that have been sealed since 2008 when he started running for president. i have never heard anything from any left wing media outlet criticizing that. with regards to ben carson, he is ok with being scrutinized and i think that is what people need to understand. he is ok with being scrutinized. what he does not like his being lied about. "politico" had to go back and change the title of their story and the information in it. people hear the initial story right away and go away with that. it is not ok for media outlets to make up lies about candidates and then when they retracted, whoops, sorry. they did not even say they were sorry. with regards to west point and the scholarship, has come out now that west point has actually

, several of them that say specifically, "free scholarship" even though it has always been paid. nobody pays tuition at west point. in addition to that, ben carson said he never applied to west point. he met with his general and that he had dinner together, and talked about him getting a scholarship or going to west point. these nitpicky things they are picking out about this is just absolutely ridiculous. is it ok for the media to spin things like that into lies? i do not agree with that. " has obviouslyo since changed the headline on that story. "fabricatedthe word

" and have had to address some of their reporting. 's campaigncarson would certainly agree with you. there are a number of little issues being brought up the other candidates have not had to address. we just saw in the clip recently, he has invited examples of this same level of scrutiny towards president obama , hillary clinton other 2008 candidates to be brought to his attention because he claims so far that is something he has not seen. democrats,ine for mark is waiting in chester, connecticut. caller: good morning. i wanted to first call in about the abortions and women's health. we find that most of the clinics being shut down are in lower income. wish that more i people would pay attention to the quality of life after that child is born and see them

through hard times and good times, rather than just focus on whether that woman should have a child or not. have participated in a child of mine being aborted, but that is my decision. i think that we should be doing more for each child as they are born. host: gabby morrongiello on that subject, i want to ask you about the supreme court expected to someup an abortion case at point in this term, how do you think that will impact and be played out, not only in the supreme court but on the campaign trail. to become a going huge topic on the campaign trail because it already has. it will cycle through a new cycle and that is something candidates will either piggyback off of or they will oppose, --arding whether or not

based on what we see with the oral arguments and what the case ends up turning out like. the d5 and planned parenthood, abortion has always been a huge issue when it comes to presidential elections, one of the most divisive social issues. it is certainly going to play a role if you have a presidential election cycle simultaneously occurring with a case like this being brought through the supreme court. host: steve from st. joseph, on the line for democrats. caller: first of all, the lady said ben carson has to come out with a tax plan. his tax plan will be like everything else, take care of the rich and make sure they get through loopholes. the lower class will get with they get. we are the one to fight the wars, the middle class and poor. america in my opinion is

probably the dumbest people to vote. they basically vote for guns and religion. i live on a farm and i have a gun. the whole thing is just crazy. it is all about special interest and lobbyists. everything is screwed up right now and it is a lot of things going on that i do not agree with. , ben carson it is has been skin. kennedy was attacked for being a catholic, the first catholic president. all presidents can attack. when you start talking about pharmasset accompanies -- pharmaceutical companies later on, all they are is drug cartels for america. host: referring to our next segment of "washington journal," to talk about the cost of pharmaceutical drugs in the

united states. i have about five or 10 minutes left in the segment if you want to keep asking questions about campaign 2016. we are joined by gabby morrongiello, political editor. linda, good morning. caller: i want to talk about the way the media covers campaigns these days. so we havewing state been inundated over the last several elections of people even pounding on the door every single night, claiming to be bipartisan and they hand you a picture of the candidate they are there to support. we have had such coverage this last debate with the quintessential example of how media bias. it is not just bias, it is marketing. they choose a candidate and they promote them. i would like to have a record of how many times they say hillary clinton's name or donald trump's

name every single day. we are being manipulated and i would like personally to hear the candidates, what they have to say about taxes, health care, all of those things. we have to hear about whether jeb bush's candidacy is losing money. i do not care about that. i care about what is going to make a decision for my life. host: donald trump, one of the candidates taking the message right to the voters. purchased, ae has series of radio ads that have gotten a lot of attention. here's a bit from one of his first radio ads. >> i am donald trump and i'm running for president. our country is in deep trouble because let's face it, politicians are all talk and no action. my opponents have no experience in creating jobs or making deals . i am going to make the greatest trade deals that have ever been made in our country, and bring

jobs and money back to the united states. i will take care of our veterans and make our military so strong that no one will mess with us. i will secure our borders. we will have a wall. i will make sure the second amendment and our religious liberties are protected. about -- obamacare is a total disaster, and will be repealed and predated -- replaced with something much better. i do not disappoint people, i produce. together we are going to make america great again. i am donald trump, candidate for president, and i approve this message. morrongiello, donald trump taking a kitchen sink approach. guest: that commercial we just heard is everything he says in a 45 minute to one hour rally in one minute. it really cap's and to and this

belief that donald trump is reaching so many voters and drumming up so much support among republicans because he speaks and a fourth grade level. take that as you will. it seems to be working in his favor. he really dumb down his message. it is resonating with a handful of republican voters who are frustrated with some of these politicians giving calculated answers and speaking in these platitudes. is somebody who knows what he wants to get across and is getting that across in these campaign ads, and has continued to do that in his rallies and media appearances. he does not stray from his message. host: the latest iowa republican polling on the primary, the cnn poll has trumped a 25, carson at 23, rubio, 13.

grandma also getting two points. let's go to mark, eureka california, line for independents. caller: good morning. carson, didn'ten he write this stuff in a book about himself? how he stopped a knife with his belt buckle and stuff? if he did, if you put out the certain things about his life, why shouldn't we be able to check on them or know about them? the other thing is that, on the republican side, they are all against the right for the women to choose if they can have an abortion or not, or take a pill. to me, leave it up to the woman. she has got to deal with it later in life.

they do not have to support that kid, she does. leave it up to the woman and her doctor. thank you. host: the caller talking about hands,son's book "gifted the ben carson story." guest: he has written a number of these things in his book and people have reached out to some of his former classmates and people involved in the claims in order to try to corroborate these stories. so far they have not been successful in doing so. that is certainly something that campaign has had to answer to. if a number of these people he these to have had encounters with or unable to come forward and substantiate these claims, that is going to andmately diminish his view his persona as being trustworthy and honest.

reporters, myself included, are working diligently to ensure that some of the stories, some of these concerns andaddressed and we go back look for examples that would help to corroborate his stories. right now, that is something we are not seeing. host: david is in clinton township, michigan, line for democrats. caller: ben carson did say things about himself. he is promoting himself in a way. he should be questioned about that. he is setting himself up as this type of person. why shouldn't we be able to question if those things are in fact true? if he has made these things up, that goes to his credibility. many callers have said it is only being done by the left to people on the right. they swift voted john kerry. thank you very much.

guest: ben carson is somebody who is running on his autobiography. he does not have years of political experience. he does not have a voting record in the senate or house or state legislature. concerns thatese are being brought up are because that is the only thing that reporters and members of the press can go after him on, and make sure he is telling the truth and that he is an honest individual and fit to be president of the united states. whereas, some of the other candidates, jeb bush, donald trump is an outsider candidate but has been very vocal in politics, these candidates are having to address some of the more political statements that have made and issues tied to their policies, whereas ben carson really has to answer to his life experiences right now. gabby morrongiello, a political reporter with "the washington examiner."

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