professor ilya somin. founder billyngth shore on hunger in america. host: good morning. breaking overnight, a turkish airspace violation. moscow says it can prove the jet had not left syrian airspace. this was the first time a nato member has down the russian aircraft since the 1950's. it comes as president obama will meet with the french president at the white house this morning. we will begin there this morning with your thoughts on a potential coalition.

should the u.s. form an alliance with france and russia busted mark if you believe so, here are the numbers. you can also join us on twitter. you can also send an e-mail. good morning. the phone lines are open. start typing in. we want to get your thoughts on if the u.s. should join france and russia to defeat isis. he is the white house correspondent with the french press in washington to talk about this meeting between mr. obama and the french president desperate --. in with acomes stronger voice, some sort of

leverage on the international stage. washington too ask to move faster against isil. that means more u.s. strikes in syria, more intelligence sharing. more openings on the diplomatic front. host: what will he say to president obama about russia? difficultt's the most one. some have been portrayed him as a mediator between the u.s. and russia. some of this might be true. it's difficult. largelooking for a coalition. i don't think anybody believes he will have one single coalition. there won't be one commander.

he is looking for close coordination between the two. there is still a long way to go. and this wasurkey more of a construct of tone. yesterday, there was a fundamental contradiction in the russian position between what they say their goals are and what they are doing on the ground. i would not expect any major breakthrough on that front. this france believe that the question of what happens to a sod need to be answered in order to defeat isis? guest: the french position has evolved. before the attacks, france was one of the hardest opponents of assad.

they were calling for his departure. they are still calling for his departure, it's a matter of words and timeframe. they are looking for some sort of compromise whereby , but they would not be asking for his departure every single day. the french position has evolved and it remains to be seen how far they will go in that regard or it --. host: the french president with david cameron. he pledged to fight alongside france against isis. -- then what? what is on his agenda for the week. guest: this is probably the biggest week of his presidency. he is here for one day and then flying back to paris where he

will meet with angela merkel. he will be in moscow on thursday and meet with vladimir putin. week, there ishe the beginning of the conference where 140 heads of state will gather in paris. climate will be on the agenda. meet most of his counterparts. this will be the busiest diplomatic for president hollande. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. guest: thanks for having me. host: the turkish government says they shot down a russian jet plane because they say they gave a warning to the jet 10 times that it had violated airspace. russia is saying it can prove it did not fly out of syrian airspace.

we have that story coming from reuters. all of this ahead of the meeting between mr. obama and mr. ala president ollanta. we're asking all of you, do you think u.s. should do this? can the u.s. to russia in this coalition? what do you think? what they had to say at the white house yesterday when asked about this coalition and what happened between the meetings between the two presidents. theoes the administration's the french president as a mediation between the u.s. and russia?

he is going off to meet with vladimir putin afterwards. >> you would have to talk to the french president what he plans to say to vladimir putin. what president obama is interested in doing is showing in a visible way the solidarity the united states feels with our allies in france. our, thisis difficult is a nation that is grieving and concerned about the security situation inside their country. they can and should take solace in knowing the most powerful country in the world has your back. it's an important part of the meeting. there will be some tangible conversations about what steps the united states is prepared to the securitywith situation in the country, particularly intelligence sharing. there is more that can be done in terms of sharing information

among themselves. that will have a positive impact on the security situation in europe and the united states. they will discuss how france continues to ramp up their contribution to our effort. josh earnest yesterday talking about a meeting that will happen this morning. look for our coverage of that. bob is in florida. you agree that there should be a coalition. let's go back to history. russia, france, the united states beat the nazis. we need to remember our history.

that's it, ma'am. jim is in massachusetts. shouldou also think we form this coalition. good morning. caller: thank you for c-span. i am on the yes line. i believe the coalition. the comparisons to world war ii, some people will quibble. the comparison with world war ii is valid. we had a coalition with the then soviet union. mandatory to see more troops on the ground to make peace. that's a good question. the administration and i think

the congress would like to see other allies participate with troops on the ground. be ay who is first would major policy decision. that's probably above my pay grade. host: jim in massachusetts. we are asking you to give us your take on this. should the u.s. form this coalition with russia and france. this is from "the new york times."

take a look at what josh earnest had to say about this question of russia at the daily press briefing. >> the russians need to insure that they have a military strategy that is consistent with the diplomatic and political objectives they have identified. that's been the problem they have had in terms of their strategy. in terms of getting people to go along with it, there is a fundamental contradiction to what i say their goals are and what they are actually doing on the ground. president clinton has a knowledged -- vladimir putin has knowledged that it will require a political solution and transition. as long as russia has a sick african military effort -- significant literary effort, it

will push that off into the distance. that's a problem for our 65 member coalition. it's a problem for russia. the present has tried to persuade vladimir putin rectally and other world leaders have tried to do the same. what we would like to see is a commitment from russia for the counter isil focused effort that the coalition is carrying out. host: the questions about russia and what role it plays in syria will be talked about the meeting between president barack obama and francois hollande. they will have a joint news conference. we will have coverage of that this morning. times.""the new york

you just heard josh earnest talk about that factor. rosemary is in maryland. you agree with the coalition. caller: good morning. i do agree. i heard someone else say with world war ii, for countries to get together for a common cause that the adversary

world is not going to sit idly by and allow them to fight terror in the world. coalition, it would send terror back to them. host: do you trust russia? caller: i am not saying i trust him. we had that issue after world war ii. there is still no prevailing. it still one world with the cause to have people live safely. if it takes getting together with russia, let's do it. host: what about their alliance with iran western mark --? take a look at the headline.

that's the headline in "usa today." we have the front page of "the wall street journal." we lost our color on that. the rest of you are welcome to weigh in. north carolina, you don't form the carolina -- coalition.

caller: you don't have the same interests. israel,ed states and they want to have control in that region. russia don't have the same interest. russia is propping up a sod. d. assa there are two different interests. the situation is going to escalate. turkey just shot down a russian plane. it's going to escalate. russia is going to come and get turkey. you've got a situation that is escalating. it's going to be dangerous. you've got more than just terrorism to worry about now. you've got a superpower to worry about now.

that is a question many people are talking about this morning. turkey did shoot down a russian jet. this is from reuters. a video sent to reuters by syrian rebels show a russian pilot badly wounded on the ground. is heard saying god is great. a rebel group operates in the northwest area of syria. islamic state has no known presence there. they declined to be named for security reasons. they said the pilot was dead. where the free syrian army is, they are trying to get bashar al-assad. this warplane going down near

this area, this is according to reuters. on this idea of differing interest, usa today notes russia and iran have different interests in syria. the goal is to break the link between iran and hezbollah. the iranians have come to the conclusion based on 50 years of evidence that bashar al-assad is crucial.

what do you think? should the u.s. form this coalition with france and russia? gary, you so. caller: i don't trust russia at all. we have had this big coalition for two years. him.re we trying to get i don't understand where this is going to i thought we had this big coalition for two years. people are going to vladimir , asking him for help? i don't trust russia. i thought we have had a coalition. host: i will find the part where they talk about the coalition the u.s. is formed to fight against isis.

on your point about people going to russia's doorstep, take a look at this in the "washington times." that is in the paper this morning. bennett is in new york -- janet is in new york. good morning. caller: i believe we should form the coalition. what are we doing in the middle east? why are we there at all? why do we keep calling for war there? should form ak we coalition nonetheless western mark --?

caller: we have to at this particular point. we should not be in the middle east. host: rate is in florida. you say no. caller: i think america needs to remember 9/11. this is a repeat of history when george w. bush made the false hadsations that iraq weapons of mass destruction. was so eager to jump on the bandwagon. go around and mislead the world. irane have got to realize was going to get nuclear weapons. russia and being

allied with russia in a sense. russia is not going to join a coalition with the united states and we need to realize that. it's just going to cost us more lives and treachery. , thiser hillary clinton is the mess up. this is what she caused on her terms. fortakes no responsibility what she went through in the middle east and caused these fractions between allies and friends and foes. thate need to realize leaders need to be held accountable for their actions. the issue going on with syria, that is a civil war. we should have never been in that. it seems like the always put our

nose in people's business. we do that for our interest. russia is no doing -- doing no different than what we do. turkish -- this turkey shooting down this airliner, oil prices rose on that news. let caller mentioned tony blair and the iraq war in 2003. david cameron vows u.k. to join syria strikes. this is what they say.

this is what david cameron had to say in front of the parliament yesterday about why britain needs to join despite. >> i was in paris discussing how we can work together to defeat the evil of isil. as the murders on the streets remind us, this is not a remote problem thousands of miles away. it is a direct threat home and abroad. it has taken the lives of his hostages and carried out the worst attack of his people since 77.

host: british prime minister yesterday talking the parliament. he will be calling on written to join the fight against isis. in that speech, if you would he wants ar more, big military expansion. ins is the biggest expansion decades. this is more in "financial times." you think we should show the -- form the coalition?

caller: i'm tired of all the craziness that goes on in the world did i'm a mother of seven children. i don't think that forming an alliance with someone -- it doesn't matter. scientists in our own thing. what does it matter? it's the intent of what you're going to do with something. people living in fear, that's not the way that the u.s. taught people to be. you know that america is for the good. decisions, definitely yes. i'm just going to say yes. no. maryland, you say caller: we are never to trust

russia. never. axisere talking about the evil. -- axis of evil. should never be in a coalition with russia of all nations. thank you. that's the way i feel about. worth,ony is in fort texas. caller: good morning. because being a soldier myself, a veteran, you can't trust russia. we have a coalition called nato. what role do they have the play of this? fight assad.s to russia was for assad.

how can we form a coalition now? host: this is twitter. isis is an ideology. for the administration, john kerry is in abu dhabi yesterday. this is the headline from "the new york times."

we are asking for your thoughts on this. caller: good morning. thanks for having me on. i would like to comment. the attack is on is the people's forces, not the government's. thank you and have a good day and --. host: john in baltimore. what you think?

caller: host: ok. john in texas. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just want to say that history is in the middle of repeating itself right now. every conflict that has come along, we've lost the most men in it. we've spent the most money. trust any of them. i don't think we need to get any more of our poise killed. boys killed.

now,where you look somewhere over there, another one of those countries is going crazy. it's all stupid. i just don't think we ought to do it. host: that was john in texas say no to this. coalition, this is from wikipedia. this is the coalition in the middle east. will bech president here in the united states today for a very quick meeting and visit with the president to talk about forming a broader alliance

to fight isis in syria. they will have a news conference together at 11:30 a.m. eastern time on c-span. tune in for the questions they will be asked by reporters. after that, the french president will travel to meet with angela merkel. he will head to moscow where he will meet with vladimir putin as well to form this coalition. what are your thoughts on this? do you agree with this site he a? -- idea? . this is from "the hill." he says he was let go because he would not go along with the focus on hillary clinton and the e-mail server. we will read more about that.

this is from "the washington post." this is about pfizer's deal. there is a tax strategy. it's a $160 billion megamerger. it would term them -- and them into a irish drug company. there is a political story about alabama. the are talking about why candidates are going to alabama. donald trump was there. black lives matter people were protesting and one got roughed up. you then "the wall street journal"

weighs in on donald trump's campaign. you have to look no further than the poll.

then there is this ahead of the climate change talks in paris. this is from "the washington post." the president will give out the medal of freedom today. if you're interested in this

post"ny, "the washington has a piece on how it works. this ceremony will take place today at the white house. we getting your thoughts on whether the u.s. should form a coalition. this headline comes from "the detroit news." you say yes to the coalition. the problem is getting war everywhere. isis is killing people all over the world. also with our allies in africa. a peaceful future for

our children. i say yes. this is just getting tweeted out. nato will hold an emergency meeting after turkey shoots down a russian fighter jet. turkey is part of the nato alliance and russia is not. pledge, and act of war against one country is an act of war against all. we will talk about the legality of this fight against isis. after morek to that of your phone calls. you say no in madison, wisconsin. caller: i'm very much opposed to military action in the middle east. it's already caused too much of a mess already. they should provide russia and

france diplomatic support. they need to slap the hand of turkey for shooting down that russian plane. i think obama is probably on the phone right now. they just complicated matters in the whole region. host: turkey says they told this times and told0 them they violated airspace. caller: nobody believes that. we know the turkey supports isis is they are attacking the kurds. i think the u.s. should stay out of this militarily. pompano beach, florida, you say yes. caller: yes they should.

hitler overran europe. we have new barbarians. they have no conscience. on the other hand, i would point ,ut when a russia was attacked they had to support russia. the new terror is isis. we should join not only with russia but iran. they have been battling. washington was inaugurated as president, that war was going on. host: let me ask you. iran doesn't like isis.

route to support hezbollah. i believe iran would join in. they said they would join a war against isis. isis is a cancer to the world. they are a cancer that must be destroyed. isis knows no boundaries. that is irwin in florida. we will go to marry next in illinois. -there. you are on the air. caller: good morning. this has become so complex.

there is no way that any single can knowfor government what is going on behind the scenes. in is hooking up with whom terms of supporting and backing and selling weapons. there is so much information. it's just baffling to all americans. i can't even believe anybody would want to be president anywhere. about eating point complicated. i want to show you this piece written by john bolton in "the new york times." he was an ambassador to the u.n.

that is john bolton's idea for a new sunni state. you say no. go ahead. because they no can't be trusted. they are supplying them.

they are beheading them. go over there and get rid of them once and for all. you can't trust russia. on top of all this, russia is looking for relief from sanctions for annexation of crimea. ukraine responded yesterday. they imposed a blockade on oil from all freight shipments to the peninsula. joel, what you think?

everybody that's calling in, the duty of it is we have our constitution. we are not 200 years old. we have not shed blood that made what we are reaping of the country. isave a football coach that in the town from me. out to the middle of the field by himself and pray with himself. i'm sure you've seen that on the news about freedom of speech and this and that. we are so blessed in this country. everybody in this country says kill them. we are on one planet. they are our neighbors. they are human beings. it's simple.

you are either a friend or a foe. i don't care what you call me. friendly or not friendly. to leave itl have there. i want to show you a headline. chris christie will try to use the attacks in paris to shift the primary trajectory. we're going to take a short break. we will return to this conversation about isis. we will be talking with ilya somin from george mason university.

he thinks the action against isis is illegal. -- billy really sure shore on hunger in america. if you missed our landmark cases, you can watch it again this saturday night at 7:00. this is a clip from the show. my memory of round began in the fall of 1950. in the quiet kansas town of topeka, a mild-mannered black and took his daughter by the hand and walked briskly. four blocks from their home to the all white school and tried without success to enroll his black parents are trying to tooll their kids nearest

their home was long overdue. my father would arrive home to find my mother upset because i had to take a walk just like she did and take the school bus two miles across town. i can remember that walk. i could only make half of it some days because the coal would be to -- old would be too bitter. i remember taking that cold, bitter walk. host: that was linda brown talking about the beginnings of the brown versus the board of

education case. programwatch the entire at 7:00. turning our attention back to isis, joining this is ilya somin , a professor at george mason university law school. i want to start with turkey shooting down this russian jet. emergencynvening an meeting. guest: it's hard to say for sure. if aato treaty says that nato ally is attacked, the other allies are required to attack. it seems quite possible this was not an attack by russia, but an accidental shoot down. perhaps it violated turkish

airspace by accident. not an assume it's actual attack. we have far from complete information about this. host: we have more permission coming up. what does it all mean? accident, turkey is saying we warned them 10 times. they continued to violate heirs is. -- airspace. guest: if it's not an attack, i'm not sure it means much. diplomatically, it increases tensions in the region. it could lead to further incidents. host: let's back up to the coalition. you believe it's not legal. not legal under the u.s. constitution. this is a conflict

large enough to be considered a war by any regional measure. the president can't initiate war on his own. he needs congressional authorization. he did not get it, even though he could have. violationn, he is in of the war powers act of 1973 that requires congressional authorization each time troops enter armed hostilities abroad and are therefore 60 days or more. his supporters say he has legal authorization. why do you disagree? guest: he has different rationales. the problem with using the 2001 authorization is that one is aimed at 9/11.

isis is a different group. they have been at odds with al qaeda and fought them on the battlefield isis is a terrible group. it's not the same group as al qaeda. 2001 agreement does not apply to it. host: what does this mean now that the french president is coming to washington today. what does that mean, france once a new coalition. guest: it may not change the legal situation. we could potentially change it in the attack on france that happened a few days ago. this may trigger article five of the north atlantic treaty. when one natoays

outline is attacked in europe or north america, the others are required to consider that an attack against themselves. that could be an alternative legal justification for a war against isis going forward. it would not legitimize everything in the past year. invokef france were to article five, the present would not need authorization from congress western mark --? legalized --ee treaty legalized. the president does not need additional crew national authorization for war if it was started by the enemy. the attack against france is one we are legally required to treat

an attack against ourselves. it would create the same presidential powers. host: france is not invoke this yet. guest: that's a good question. i'm not sure i know the answer. there is a dilemma for the obama it might be in that admitting they did not have authorization before. this mean that france once note -- russia and they are not a nato member. guest: there is nothing to prevent nato from working with other powers. because of what happened in paris, members of congress are again pushing for renewal of the new authorization for military force. they are saying now more than ever, this is needed because of

what happened in paris. the administration sent up language in february. does that say? it met a very cold reception from both immigrants and republicans for various reasons. there were many objections. sayis it does not actually that's the exclusive authorization for the is of force against isis. the second problem is the language stated that there is a ban on enduring offensive ground operations and no one can tell how we distinguish an enduring offensive from some other operations. host: that's what this is called right now western mark --? thet: it's something

administration's language with and for britain. -- forbidden. nobody really knows what it means. our viewers to have look at the debate that took place last tuesday between senators. fortwo of them are pushing a new authorization of ella terry force. take a look at the arguments they made. the am not debating arguments. not what is it issue right here. what is at issue is the ease with which congress defers to old statutes and advocates its authority. ons conflict is been going for more than a year with very

mixed results. the consequences will change the geopolitical landscape in that region for decades. 10 service members have died. one was recently killed in action. five others have been wounded. attacks are happening all over the world. the notion that a 14-year-old statute aimed at another enemy is any kind of substitute for congressional authorization is insufficient. >> it's not enough for this body who has the constitutional authority. we have set on the sidelines and criticize. we have not been willing to authorize what's been going on, vote to stop what's going on, or to revise what's going on. it's easy to be a critic.

it's easy to sit in the stands and say why didn't the coach call a different play? we are the article one ranch. we are not supposed to be a war without a vote from congress. it's rare that politicians say things that i agree with. what they said is absolutely right. the president was wrong to start towards without congressional authorization and congress was wrong not to assert its powers more fully. host: let's get calls. we are talking about the legality of u.s. military action against isis. caller: there is something that is very relevant to this. it's about a little girl. lebanon, they in wanted to let muslims come into

work. they did. wives, they had outnumbered. then they out voted them. hello, america. they came to their christian neighborhood and blew up their home. she said i am 10 years old. i am in the hospital. i said, why did they do this? she said, because you are christian. in, it is not the number you are hearing. i have talked to people high up in washington. they say it is a half a million. a lot of people know this but more don't. in, you cannot reverses. rape is rampant.

can't go to school. they don't think their arm is going to cause you to be raped. about refugees -- syrian refugees specifically coming to the united states? caller: yes, because they are not always who they say they are and if you notice the pictures, many are strong young man -- young men, and many are bringing women and children to hide who they were. host: we are talking about strong military action, do you have any thoughts about syrians being displaced, the president wanted to bring in more refugees? guest: there are many factual errors in what the caller said. since 1981, when current legislation was adopted, we have brought in hundreds of --

hundreds of thousands of refugees, and not one of them has carried out a terrorist attack. isis has repeated they are against refugees flooding to the west. they oppose that for two reasons -- one is it reduces the amount of people under isis control and they fear that if they will come to the west, they will be imbued with western values. if we keep him out, we not only harm innocent people, but also aid the enemy in this conflict. from oscar lopez reporting macedonia --

security concerns spread throughout europe -- then there is also this in the paper this morning about afghans wanting to leave the country, trying to make that same passage to europe. this is from the international section of "the new york times."

host: back to calls. landon. richmond, virginia, a republican. the morning. we're talking about the legality of the fight against isis. what do you think? caller: well, it is legal. there is no question about that. if the professor will remember the manhattan project, that was way back in the 1940's. the president was given at that time all of the power that he -- to do whatever he wanted to do. if you remember, world war ii ended. the next thing, we are in korea, then vietnam. in other words, the united states has been in a perpetual war. as long war on drugs -- as it is called a war, and isis is a bunch of criminals running from one country to another country.

what they did, they based in iraq. once they based in iraq and made themselves what you would call a then theyr whatever, are eligible for the world to go against them. may have terrorist groups all over the world but once you base yourself and say i am a real group of people fighting for people and we have our , you have to take what you are going to get. you're going to get a war. the islamic world would rather fight the russians and then when we do something crazy, whether it is right or wrong going into iraq -- history will tell us whether it is right or wrong. history will tell us. once we did that, it set a precedent. we started a war. a was legal because it was

go althoughi said, enact the manhattan project. you have a war. -- go all the way back to the manhattan project. you have a war. the russians would rather fight isis. host: i have to get some other calls in. professor somin, what did you hear from the caller? guest: i will not try to unpack the rights and wrongs of the iraq war, but i will say bush did get authorization for that, a resolution in 2002. it is true, i agree, that isis entity,ted a state-like but that does not in and of itself mean there would be a state of war between them and the u.s.. the fact is this conflict was initiated by obama's decision last year to begin bombing upper

operations, and that was the beginning of the war, and for that he would need congressional authorization. guest: -- host: vladimir putin in the associated press saying the downing of the russian plane is a blow in the back from turkey. mark mckenna and tweeting this out -- he is the senior international correspondent for "the globe and mail" based in london. today's event will have serious consequences for russian-turkish relations. what you make of that? guest: serious consequences can mean almost anything, but at the least it does not seem vladimir putin wants to go to war with turkey over this, so and this case the consequences seem to be limited to rhetoric. turkeye told you

shooting down a russian jet -- they say they gave them 10 warnings, brought down the plane. there is a nato emergency meeting happening today. turkey, being an ally of nato. as recent before, france could invoke article 5 of nato. turkey could, if they say this was an act of war by russia. how do you go about invoking article five? guest: that is intriguing question. some people argue the way you have to do it is use article four of the nato treaty which requires the parties to consult together when they pick one of them has been attacked or its security was threatened. i think it would apply even without an article-four-based meeting. regardless of those sorts of legalities, however, as a practical matter, it is unlikely article five would be invoked unless at least one of the parties try to do so.

so far i am not aware turkey try to do so with respect to this russian incident, nor, even, has france tried to do this with respect to the attack in paris, which clearly was an attack of the sort the treaty apply to. host: the united nations approved a resolution urging action against the islamic state. what does that mean in the context of our conversation? guest: i do not think i itself it invokes -- by itself it invokes article five. it does not trigger nato obligations in article five or provide domestic, legal authorization for the u.s. action just because the u.n. says something is legal or desirable. it does not mean it is legal in the u.s.. host: john in lincoln, nebraska. what are your thoughts on this? caller: i am trying to figure out -- it kind of went -- i am a little confused.

maybe because the callers do not make any sense. are you saying you want a congressional authorization for military action against isis? guest: yes. that is exactly what i have been saying. when the president began the action last year, it was clearly of a large enough scale to a amount to a war and the constitution requires congressional authorization for a war. been donen, what has so far violence the war powers act of 1973, which requires congressional authorization any time american forces are involved in armed hostilities abroad and are therefore more than 60 days. host: joe is in fayetteville, north carolina. republican. you are on the air. case -- think the isil, whatever they want to call themselves, is not truly a state

, and [indiscernible] it is the fault of the legal system. there is not much in the history of the united states that compares to this. [indiscernible] if congress wants to bail the president out, they can, or use this as a political football. host: professor? guest: from a constitutional standpoint it does not necessarily matter that much whether isis is a true state or not. we have always taken a position that the u.s. can be involved even with nonstate groups. the war against al qaeda in afghanistan is a good example of this. certainly, both the bush administration and the obama administration have taken that -- the view that that is a war.

areisis, even though they not a legitimate or recognized government, they do control a large territory and have established a state-like entity. so, i think it is reasonable to argue this is a war against them, even if you contend wars can only happen against states or groups that controlled territories in the same way that states do. host: what is considered with -- an act of war? let's start with the fundamentals -- flying into in the airspace of another country, is that an attack? guest: generally, it would not be. if you fly into the airspace by accident, which may be what happened here, i do not know, it would not be a war in and of itself. in general, there is some fuzzy, gray area where bad behavior and isn't a war ends behavior that is a war begins.

with something like paris where people are killed in a large attack, i do not think there is a lot of ambiguity there. in turkey, it is more arguable. host: will the administration used the word war, and if not what does that mean legally? guest: i have not used the word war in parts so they can avoid having to get authorization or avoid admitting they needed it. whether they use the word or not, i think it is pretty clear that it is a war. the fact that you do not use the word does not change the nature of what is actually going on. both from a reasonable point of view, rather -- either legal or intuitive, there is a war going on. host: east hampton, massachusetts. darren, you're next. you, greta, and thank you, professor daesh. --professor somin.

i was wondering what his thoughts were on hillary that was assertion something on the order that she did think the 2001 aumf should revised, but it did not cover what we are doing at present. legalcond, what is the authorization for u.s. forces attacking targets in syria? as far as i understand, that seems to be contrary to u.n. charter. you know, i know that russia is there at the invitation of the a ssad government. what is the legal authorization for u.s. strikes in syria? good questions. on the first one, i agree with

hillary clinton that there may be reason to revise the 2001 aumf, but i disagree with her statement that it covers the action against isis for the reason i stated earlier -- the 2001 resolution was aimed at a different group than isis. on the second question regarding the issue of the legal authorization of attacking targets in syria, i think if the war is otherwise legal, then the simple fact that enemy forces are operating from syrian territory, in this case, isis, in and of itself provides authorization. in world war ii, if german or japanese countries were operating from a neutral country, we would have had the right to bomb them or attack them there. the same applies here. the fact is large parts of syria are controlled by isis. so long as we are in a conflict with isis, we can attack their forces wherever they may be located. host: we will go to houston,

texas, independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning. good morning. host: good morning. you are on the air, go ahead. caller: yes, ma'am. we authorize the patriot act, which i do nothing was authorized correctly, and we went into iraq and killed over one million people. in my opinion, that is murder. we never held anyone accountable for that. we should be going against the high court for these war crimes. dr. king said america was the biggest of their of violence in the world. --e is the problem here these guys were from belgium. why are we attacking belgium? in the 9/11 we did attacks. those guys were from saudi arabia, but we went and attacked afghanistan. held accountability for the people we killed and those

displaced, isis would not be there. we killed more people than isis would have killed, and we are looked at as a terrorist. if we do not want to be terrorized, stop acting like terrorists. call bush, and hold obama and made -- and his administration accountable. the same thing we're doing in yemen -- we are about divide and conquer. this young men -- young man should be holding america accountable along with the rest of the american people so we can hold ourselves for crimes against humanity and repent against that so people would look at america in a different way. host: professor somin? guest: obviously, the figures given from iraq are highly despicable and what he gave are higher than the estimates given. there were cases where u.s.

troops committed war crimes in iraq. however, there is an obvious difference with isis, which is those war crimes committed when at the liberally sanctioned by higher authority. in many cases, u.s. troops were punished and tried when they did things like this. with isis, by contrast, it is their official policy to commit terrible crimes on a large scale. what kind of military intervention policy to deal with that is a different question. there are important distinctions to be made between the war and -- in iraq and what isis is doing, even though you could raise reasonable arguments at the war in iraq was badly conceived and badly conducted in many ways. if a country or group -- i should say a group -- is considered a terrorist organization, does that not then fall under the 2001 aumf? guest: the 2001 aumf does not

cover terrorist organizations all over the world. those in 9/11, and who harbored of them. host: i want to get your thoughts on the front page of "the new york times" with thoughts on this emergency edict out of paris. host: what do you think about the way paris, the way france moves after this, the way the

government works, versus our constitution in the united states? guest: is troubling what is happening in france, and add to allow themncy laws to engage in considerable censorship of the press and shutting down websites. i think anytime there are terrorist attacks in europe or here, there is some sense to undermine civil liberties. in france, the situation is worse because the legal constraints on that are weaker in that country and there is less of a cultural tradition for strong support of civil liberties. while i think the attack in paris was horrible, does deserve a strong response, i think there is a real danger of overreach, and undermining civil liberties, which, as in the article you mention, it seems like it may already be happening. pass could the u.s. ever some sort of emergency law like we are seeing in paris? no, butegally speaking, sadly we have a history of

violating our own constitutional constraints in time of war one public panic and anger is strength -- strong enough, for example, world war ii, when we termed hundreds of japanese americans. we cannot be completed complacent about it or totally rule it out. to david next.o leawood, kansas. a republican. caller: good morning. thank you, c-span. thank you, greta. host: you bet. a question or comment for our guest? caller: i am calling for two reasons -- point number one is to agree, and point number two is to disagree on. the one point to agree on, actually, the war powers act is needed. does not apply. by applying it, it totally

ignores the origins of isis, that rather than being al qaeda, they were saddam's old guard, or at least the managerial guard guardted was saddam's old replaced by the war against al qaeda. huge historical point missed by trying to execute this war, these military efforts, under that hospice -- hospices. the point i wanted to disagree with is the naivete that i pick up on, and i think it is genuine. i do not think it is trying to spin, as many guests obviously do from a background. i think your guest really is naive about the refugees coming in and that they would really be a simulated into american culture. they are not. maybe that is old school. it used to be valid, but we see

the mistakes that paris -- or least notde, in at forcing, or anchorage in african , asian immigrants to assimilate into their -- encouraging african, asian immigrants to assimilate into the culture, and now it is the same everywhere. in britain they are facing the same -- host: we hear your point on that. talk about the legality of the fight on -- against isis. did you have a point on that? thatr: yes, i would agree our representatives, speaking on behalf of the people, need to discuss this, vote on it, and put their names, the names that we voted for on record as to where the american public stance . otherwise come -- stands. otherwise, it is like everything else in this administration going beyond loopholes to

stretching legal arguments, to just fabricating law where they need it, but it does not exist. host: professor? guest: i agree largely on the legal point. on the assimilation point, our history is quite different from france. we have had immigrants, including muslims from the middle east, and by and large they have assimilated. they have been prosperous and successful. have beenaying there zero that are problematic, but it would be wrong to keep out many on the fact that there would be some that will not assimilate. to professoralking ilya somin from george mason university law school on the legality of a war against isis. professor somin believes it is legal. you mentioned the rush to act when there is an attack like we saw in paris. ownmentioned the u.s.'s

history and doing that, and the case of core mezzo versus the united states in 1994 where the supreme court ruled in a 6-4 sign 70,002 internment i mention this because this is part of the landmark series we are doing monday night. we talked about this on the series. in case you missed it, go to our website, landmarkcases. c-span.org. alonzo. go ahead. caller: good morning, greta, how are you? the gentleman, mr. somin, no one is mentioning this. i am 69 years old. i was in vietnam.

you know, when franklin roosevelt was president and we went to war, they had a draft. why is it that you keep putting all the pressure and all of these many tours on a volunteer military instead of making all the bloodice sacrifice?e -- all the blood and treasure we lost in afghanistan -- we need to change the whole deal. you have to realize president obama is a constitutional scholar from harvard. of course, the republican right just wants to put him down at that warn, but i see

is in the picture so that some of their cronies can make millions and millions of dollars off of another conflict. i really feel like me to put the draft back in and let the ofority of the youths america do their fair share. thank you. guest: so, just picking up on a couple points the caller made -- the president is a constitutional scholar from harvard. that does not mean he can't be wrong about the constitution. he was right about this issue when he was running for 2007-2008 when he said the president cannot initiate war without congressional authorization unless the u.s. has been attacked or is imminently about to be so. on the question of the draft, there are many reasons why the draft is a bad idea. one of them is volunteer soldiers perform much better on average income back, and also

the draft is terribly unjust and harmful in many ways, as it was in the vietnam era and before, which is why it was replaced in the first place. host: talk about the history of the 1973 war powers act. how has it been used and changed over the years? powers act was a in 1973 in response to a perception, partly justified, that the president had too much power in war-making and push the country into vietnam, even though vietnam did have congressional obligate -- authorization. the idea was if the president initiated a conflict i send in troops abroad, they would -- by sending troops abroad, they would not be able to stay there unless congress approved. have that time, presidents tried to are here to the war powers act, and other times they have played fast and loose. egregiousfew more than the present administration

with the libya war where the president said bombing the country repeatedly for many days was not armed hostilities, and therefore the war powers act does not apply, and in the current case, where they have tried to get around the war powers act, by saying it was authorized by the 2001 resolution, which applies to an entirely different group. host: our conversation happening today as the french president will be meeting with president obama later on today. they will have a joint news conference at 11:30 a.m. eastern time. leaders obviously discussing the strategy against isis. france would like the u.s. and russia and other countries to form a broader coalition. invoked --ave not yet they have not invoked article number five under the nato alliance. talk about the history of article five. who has invoked it in the past and wife? -- and why?

guest: the one time it was invoked was after the 9/11 .ttacks all the allies agreed to the invocation, and, indeed, nato forces then participated in the war, including, by the way, french forces. that was the one time it was clearly invoked and used. it was first adopted in 1949 with the threat of the soviet union in mind. the article is not limited to the soviet union. it is deliberately written more broadly than that. host: given that the u.s. is fighting against isis, it is leading a coalition right now of arab countries, britain, .ighting crisis in iraq what does that mean for the legality of it when the u.s. admits, yes, we have this coalition of other countries, all working together to defeat this terrorist group? legality isomestic

not really changed by the number of other countries that happen to be involved. there is still a constitutional procedure that is to be followed before you initiate a war. obviously the other countries may not care that much whether we are fallen constitutional law or not. it is not their loss -- following cuts additional law or not. it is not their law. -- following constitutional law or not. it is not their law. in that respect, it is not just a purely legal problem. what the administration has done is say yes, we are fighting this, we are involved, but we do not want to work really hard to build up a domestic consensus, so, in effect, where involved just enough to get u.s. forces and prestige jet, perhaps not enough to fully prevail. what does it mean internationally when you have collateral damage and civilian

death? guest: i am not sure the international damage is different as a result, but i do think the whole point of requiring congressional authorization here is to say we are not going to go to war unless we have a broad consensus, politically, to do so. one man in the white house cannot decide to do it on his own. , ase go to war without that now we have twice under this administration, you end up with results that might well be suboptimal in various ways, to say the least. lanham, maryland. freddie, republican. caller: hi, greta. i am very disappointed with the explanation you have given. we are asking about the legality of our presence in syria. is there any law that allows us to go into a sovereign country without authorization? the explanation is pretty clear.

i understand. but is there any law -- can you tell the american people we are going illegally into a sovereign country to fight a war? guest: i think there are two legal questions involved. properwhether we have domestic authorization for this. i've already said at least up until now, we do not. on the question of international law, fighting in syria, if you are engaged in a legal conflict against an enemy, you can fight the enemy wherever they might be located. in this case, isis pretty clearly has taken over large parts of syria. the syrian government has no way to prevent them from taking over those areas. otherwise, in world war ii, in german or japanese forces had been operating from a neutral country, they would not be immune from attack there. paul. a democrat. you are last for our professor.

caller: good morning. i think the president was brought into two wars when he came in, and congress vowed never to do anything for him except make him a one-term president. it was a surprise that we got him in again, thank god, -- again. thank god we did not get the other guy. we watch every morning and republican on the republican anyoneand we never hear agree with the president. if he says white is white, they call it back. -- black. host: paul. your thoughts? guest: there is hostility between the president and

congress, but this is one question were many republicans agree with obama -- many would be willing to vote for a congressional authorization with the war -- for the war against isis, for a variety of reasons the president chose not to try for it, and when he did try, he said in language that was so flawed even most democrats did not want to approve of it. even if congress, for partisan reason or any reason, authorizes not -- chooses not to give the president authorization committee does not mean the president can start it on his own. said the president congress needs to do its part to give him authorization. doesis the precedent -- the language always come from the commander-in-chief or could congress draft their own? it does not matter that much whether they drafted it themselves, whether the president prepared it, or whether they got the idea from

somewhere else. as a practical matter, will likely happen is the president will draft some language, it will be debated in con -- congress, perhaps devised there. host: what happens in the future -- what precedent is being set at these actions by this president? what does it mean legally for fighting terrorist groups like isis without authorization? guest: legally speaking, the fact that you did something once like -- it is not ok to do it again in the future. it is not like losing your virginity. as a particle matter, when you does haveresident, it the authorization for them to do the same thing, and that is troubling. host: is there any challenge on

legal grounds for the president has done? guest: yes. a number of people in congress have done so, including democratic senator tim kaine. a lot of people in academia as well, but the issue is not gotten as much public attention as it deserves. somin, professor at george mason university law school. thank you for your time this morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will turn our attention to domestic issues, specifically hunger. one in five kids lives in a family that struggles to put food on the table according to the group share our strength. they want to provide free school lunch, breakfast, and afterschool meals. we will talk to the founder and ceo of share our strength, billy shore, coming up next. ♪

>> john hinckley, of course, was the person who shot president reagan, and president reagan was not wearing a bullet-proof vest that day. it was a short trip from the white house. john hinckley was stalking jimmy carter before this. "q&a," various threats made against presidential candidates in u.s. history -- 16 -- there have been 16 presidents that have faced

threats. i talk about three candidates. huey long, who was assassinated in 1935. robert kennedy, in 1968, who was assassinated. and george wallace, who was shot and paralyzed for life in 1972. i cover candidates as well as presidents. it is a long list. host: sunday night -- >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern and pacific on c-span's q and a." c-span has the best coverage of the congress. over things giving, watch our conversations with six members of the u.s. congress. buddy parker. donald norcross, new jersey democrat and longtime union electrician. friday, 10:00 a.m. eastern, a california democrat and former restaurant owner.

at 10:30 a.m., commerce and mike walker, republican from north carolina, and a baptist minister in his first elected office. saturday morning, at 10:00 a.m. eastern, mimi walkers, a former state senator who interned in washington, d.c., as a college student. in a massachusetts democrat, harvard graduate, and a marine who served four scores in iraq. your best access to congress is on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. "washington journal" continues. host: back at our table, the president and founder of share our strength, billy shore. thank you for being here. the fully get to phone calls on hunger in america, what is the state of it among u.s. children? guest: it is pretty severe right now. decreases the great recession, has recovered in a

lot of ways, but many americans have not. we have 22% of our kids living in poverty. of course, you will have significant hunger. we believe it is about one in five kids that struggle with hunger. that being said you're not have the security of knowing and three males a day. -- three meals a day. the good news is it is a solvable problem. host: we will get into that, but share of strength cites these numbers from the fda -- 15.3 million u.s. children that live in food insecure homes. kids, and 18.4% of urban kids are struggling with hunger. there is a 43% chance a persistently poor child gets a college education. a 43 perceive -- 43% chance your chanceld, and then a 31% a food insecure child will be

zed, and 45% of food under- cap recipients are 18 years old. what does it need to be food insecure? guest: one of the important things to understand is something you put your finger on, there are a lot of other consequences to kids being hungry. it affects their ability to achieve in school. it affects their ability to pay attention. it affects their ability to do well on tests. it affects their health, and our health care costs ultimately affect competitiveness. sayave a lot of reason to we cannot have a strong america if we do not have strong kids. we have to address the issue of childhood hunger. guest: why the families that are food insecure? guest: they cross every spectrum. we have them field hearings and

visits across the country. you see it in urban and rural, old and young. you really see it in every community you can imagine, again, because our economy has started to recover, but it has left behind tens of millions of americans who still do not have full-time employment, is still do not have employment that is paying them what they need to feed their families. host: is it the price of food or access to food? guest: i think it has more to do with the price of food. in this country, hunger is a symptom of poverty. we do not have hunger for the reasons they do in other parts of the world. it is not war, famine, or drought. it is people that cannot afford food, and in some cases, people that might not have access because they live in neighborhoods that we call food deserts, where there are not grocery stores and those kind of things. it is fundamentally not having the resources you need to feed your family. host: here's another six -- statistic -- 51% of public school students live in

low-income families. what does that mean for the school lunch program, the breakfast, the afterschool meals? that. think about a majority of our public school students now live below the poverty line for the first time in our history. we have recently crossed that threshold. what that means is kids come to school with a lot of challenges that may present to the teachers , particularly if they are hungry. the good news, again, we have a school lunch program that was 1946 when generals and admirals came to congress after world war ii to say we need stronger and more fit recruits. we have a school breakfast program that does not have the same level of participation, but needs to, and a summer meals program as well for when the schools are closed. mean more-- does that people are participating in this free breakfast, lunch, and afterschool? guest: exactly. host: how much does that cost?

guest: we have 22 million kids in this country getting a free or reduced-price school lunch. but onlyall eligible, 11 million are getting it. lunch is already there, but for breakfast you have to get there earlier. in the summertime, between three and four million kids are getting summer meals. you have these programs to help kids, but they are not being fully utilized. the federal government spends about $90 billion on food assistance programs ranging from snap to school meals, and so forth. host: how is that money brought into the schools? on school lunch programs -- how does that get into the school? guest: they are programs reimbursed by the federal government. the school provides the meals. many schools -- not many schools cook meals. when i was a kid, we had meals cooked in the school.

today they are provided and brought to the school. they are up to 100% reimbursed at certain levels. if the foods -- if the school wants to do more with nutrition and variety, they would have to pay the difference. schoolernment encourages lunch and breakfast on the convention that we need to make sure our kids are ready to learn. host: shore -- billy shore, our guest to talk about share our , summertime meals provided to children in this country are hungry and do not have access to food. taking your phone calls. we will divide the lines by democrat, republican, independent, but also a fourth line for parents and teachers. the first phone call comes from paul in new jersey, a democrat. good morning to you. caller: good morning. i commend your speaker for the work he is doing. it is great work.

i have a twofold question. one is what do you think the impact of taking these refugees from the wars going on -- on the programs where we are pay $90 billion now, where would they get the money to pay for andgees that will be hungry when they need to support their families? will social security be wiped out completely, and what will that do to take away from helping the -- our own people in the country? guest: we should look at the number of refugees. it turns out to be a relatively small number. president obama is trying to include another 10,000 syrian refugees, some of whom will be children. the country has always taken refugees and immigrants. it is part of the diversity that makes up america and one of our strengths. the good news, our school, as a nation, we have no shortage of food, no shortage of food and nutrition programs.

the amount of money spent on school nutrition for kids, whether they are currently in the country or refugees coming in, it is really such a small fraction of the government that both democrats and republicans have agreed that these programs should be exempt from automatic budget cuts known as sequestration. that is how small it is and how much bipartisan support it has. host: how small? guest: if we're talking for the school breakfast program, we're $20king some 10 to 15, to billion over time, the amount that another 10,000 kids from syria, for example, that would be a rounding error. host: the caller brings up, sort of, implying, who are these people participating. that is what dd on twitter wants to know -- give us the family dynamics of kids getting subsidized meals. guest: the demographics are

across the board. there are kids that are white. there are kids that are african-american. there are kids that are latino. they give a public school in your neighborhood. publicthe kids in schools are low-income. the odds are there are kids in your neighborhood benefiting from the school lunch and school breakfast program. guest: -- host: how does a parent go about getting the food aid, or is it a teacher that might encourage a student to participate? guest: kids who go to school -- if they do not have the funding to buy their lunch, the school makes sure they get a free or reduced-price lunch. there is very little families have to do. the important thing is teachers have become powerful witnesses to the challenge of hunger in the classroom. share our strength has surveyed teachers across the country and we have found that, you know, hunger% of them say that

is an obstacle to teaching effectively. some 63% of them use their own teacher salary every month to buy kids for kids, often to send it home on the weekends, have it monday morning, or snacks in a drawer. teachers are probably the best to give testimony to the fact that hunger is affecting so many kids in the school system. host: and what happens in the classroom? guest: well, kids that are hungry do not learn well. we have seen when kids start to get school breakfast that have not been getting it, what happens in the classroom is tardiness goes down. attendance goes up. visits to the nurses office goes down. these are things we have been able to measure. math scores in schools that were getting school breakfast in the classroom program, as opposed to in the cafeteria, or we call breakfast after the bell, math scores were increasing 17%. attendance rates were projected

to be several days longer. aere are multiple benefits, rela -- to a relatively small investment. host: sharon. ohio. caller: good morning. glad to be part of the discussion. this it's at my heart every day. i have written into the local papers. thousands of children not served because of negligent parents, because they could be drug effects, but they are neglected. a lot of schools teach -- treat children like cash crops. you sit down with the rest of the kids, and you can see what they are eating, they can see what you are eating. let's just put a scarlet letter on your four head.

children do not have jobs, credit cards, or cash. the children are mandated by law to attend school. they have to be there. the gala we do for our prisoners -- people that have committed -- look at what we do for our prisoners. people that have committed heinous crimes are fed three meals a day, have the best access to libraries, law burks -- law books, have medical, dental, vision -- isn't there something we can do with these public schools treating students like cash crops? student a uniform milk, no matter their ability to pay. host: thank you, sharon. guest: as she points out, kids are the most vulnerable. we have to invest in them and treat them well. i think school lunch and breakfast programs are getting better and better. we haven't focused on access, taking sure kids -- we have been

focused on access, making sure kids are being served. the role of share our strength -- fundraising, providing meals? that, we are doing all of trying to use our resources to knock down whatever barriers exist to kids getting food. we have a campaign called the hungry campaign. we going to a state. we are active in arkansas, california, new york. we talked to the community, the educators, about the benefits of moving breakfast from the cafeteria to the classroom. what does it take to do that? wheels,t need carts on or to educate teachers. we are focused. in the summertime, we're talking about at a time of year one people have a heightened sensitivity -- in the summertime -- we're talking about this at a

time with a heightened sensitivity, thanks giving, but the times the kids needed the most is in the summer, when they have to find those meals. host: what is happening to these kids? guest: a lot of them are going hungry in the summertime. low income families have to spend on average $300 more on grocery bills in the summer because the meals they were getting in school may now have to cover themselves, and many do not have the resources to do that. there is a great summer meal program, and currently congress is focused on a child nutrition bill, the child nutrition authorization, which comes up every five years, and there are provisions in that that would make it a lot easier to feed kids in the summertime. host: how would it work -- kids that are old enough or at home. kids that are not, parents have to find camps or other daycare facilities. how do you get to kids to the school at the summertime? host: --

guest: there is a substitute network -- boys and girls clubs, church basements, other types of community -- community locations. many have become summer providers. they also didn't burst if they are willing to set the program to do it. we have seen -- also get reimbursed if they are willing to set up the program to do it. information, go to knowkidhungry -- no kidhungry.org. william. a parent. welcome to the conversation. caller: how are you? host: doing good. fine. friends inave two the school system. one is a substitute teacher. one is something else. they said on these free school

programs, half the children take the food and throw it in the garbage can. i am not trying to pick on that. there is so much waste in education that people do not realize. people are feathering their own nest in that business. when i was in the navy, when we came back in a ship, they threw the extra food overseas, over in the drink, so the budget would not go down. host: let's talk about the waste factor. guest: there is some controversy. kids are notoriously hard to feed. i have a 10-year-old son. sometimes he eats what i put in front of them, sometimes he does not end it gets wasted. one of the efforts to improve the nutrition and the flavor of the food so that kids will eat more, eat healthy, and there will be less waste. host: from twitter -- "if a society does not create a

climate where families can earn enough to feed themselves, is that a good society? i see hunger daily." from another viewer -- snap benefits are not overly generous, but is there also a problem of parents not knowing how to economize and get healthy foods? if we're going to deal with this issue, go beyond feeding kids in school or whatever we feed them, preventing hunger, we have to make sure families have living wages, there are jobs for people at good wages, there is economic development that includes everybody in society, not just a few. that will be very important. but, there are also things people can do, particularly around financial awareness and nutrition awareness. we have a program at share our strength called cooking matters, where we work with low-income families, to teach them food budgeting skills, grocery shopping skills, nutrition.

if a mom knows how to buy a chicken and carve it up -- if you buy the chicken whole, it is cheaper than buying chicken parts. there are a lot of things families can do to stretch their dollars. host: other parents. mark in florida. democrat. caller: hi, folks. how are you all? host: doing just fine. go ahead. caller: i am 57 years old. when i was in fourth grade in illinois, my family was on hard was a pretty popular student and athlete, but i was embarrassed, so i knew i knew to feed myself -- but i know i need to feed myself. the school had a program or if andhelped other children clean up the trays, you would be entitled to have a lunch. it was a humbling experience to reach out and help other

children, knowing that i had an advantage over some other kids. i would like to say thank you to billy shore, c-span, for having americans that look out for the least among us. i would also like to let myteners know that thanks to grade school, i volunteered to be a patrol to help kids get across a busy street. that orangeto have belt. i was a big kid. i am a former marine. i wanted to protect the other children and give devotion back to that school. ultimately, as a young adult, what i did to thank the overall society, which was able to help each other, in my opinion, was serving the american marine corps for 11 years, and also i was a civilian policemen. i have given -- policemen. i have given a lot of my heart and soul out of things to programs that billy obviously tonds for -- out of thanks programs that billy obviously

stands for. what americans are not understand -- you cannot afford to keep your lights on, the average american worker is only making $36,000 a year. we have lost the industrial-wage economy when john deere and caterpillar went away, and we have replaced it with working at night.and hooters at it is really sad that we are not sharp enough to put two and two together. billyd like to thank again for his hard work, and what is sincere human being he is. thank you, guys. you, mark, and thank you for your service. it sounds like service has been a part of your life your entire life. one of the things that is really impressed me doing the work that i do on hunger and poverty is that there are millions of americans that are really engaged in service. share our strength works with tens of thousands of volunteers and so many of the other organizations we are involved

with -- feeding america, bread for the world -- other national antihunger organizations, they have a huge volunteer base. a lot of people want to make a difference. you want to know how they can do it. one of the thing special about the issue of lends itself to people getting involved. you can volunteer infantry banks. you can donate money. he can advocate. in addition to service, i think and nationalal pieces of policy, that can be an important way to serve as well. host: independent caller. for taking myyou call. i was calling because i used to be a teacher and i was not making a lot of money. but a lot of my salary, and a lot of my disposable money, sometimes even my lunch goes to these things. one of my comments is people money isere this

going, how do you choosing to spend it? otherss myself and sacrificing from their own family so they can get their job done. there needs to be a greater coordinated effort of support from the schools. in achild who grew up poverty situation, i do know the value of those food programs. a lot of times what you see is save certain parts so they can take it home because their parents would not qualify. now that we are doing better, thankfully, i was able to and beatfrom college the statistics in a lot of ways, even as a middle-class family we still struggle with trying to provide good food for our child -- our children. making sure they have access to

food. it does cost us a lot. , soul a family of five food is astronomical. it is unbelievable. we just try to buy the basics. problem for people who have -- you are not making enough, but it is also a challenge for a load of middle-class families as well to try to get that food. caller: you point out that sossroom teachers are personally invested in the kids that they teach that they are willing to use their own salaries, which are not that great to begin with, to help feed kids. it is very important. do notf americans realize how big a problem hunger is that this country. we have such wealth and abundance in the united states and we're still one of the worlds richest countries, if not the richest. there are a lot of people not

aware that there are people all across the country who need their help. we will go to the dean in florida, republican line. good morning. i just wanted to comment. schools in the florida for 30 years. lunchad a robust school program. the problem i saw was getting the children to take advantage of it. middle schoolers and high schoolers do not want their friends to know they are on free lunch. so they do not take advantage of it. also, on the side of the cafeteria they had a window that served pizza and fries. many of the children on free lunch had money to buy the pizza on fries, because i was not the free lunch menu. they all had cell phones, and there had beautiful tennis shoes

or whatever they called them today. i am wondering if maybe we don't need to do a better job of educating the children, from the time they are young? it was buying them the cell phones and the fancy shoes if there parents are unwell for -- are on welfare? guest: we have about 45 million foodcans on the snap stamp program, and about half of them are children. , i have beenren in schools where i have fancy shoesnes and as well and i have been in plenty of schools where they have none of that. in arkansas, recently, families were literally light of down the street. they have a child poverty rate of 37%.

they were lined up to get food supplies and a fire station where they had packaged excess food that they were handing out. was talking to a restaurant tour her in alabama recently who told me his daughters will is a very prosperous community. who gots a little girl up out of her chair and walked out of the classroom walked out of the building and went the other street and a bigger figure out what was going on. she was actually taking the food to her younger sibling who was not yet in school who needed it. there is a range of conditions and challenges that people face /. most people are trying to do the best thing for their kids. host: what about the pure pressure issue? guest: it is a big stigma. and let the kids are already there, there's a limit less stigma, everybody goes to the same cafeteria. having tost, they are

go early to get a free or reduced breakfast. making the universal for everybody in the classroom, and federal law says that the school district has more than 80% of their kids in need, then feed 100% of them, it is more economical to do that than to screen out the 20% who might not need it to making it -- mike's not needed. elevates theersal stigma. we've seen participation rates wherem 45% to about 95% there's breakfast in the classroom. we have seen attendance improved, readiness go down. host: what about the efforts in between meals? teachers are bringing in their oats next, but what about those in between meals? until do not have lunch noon and eat breakfast early, what about in between?

n afterschoolis a snack program now. my 10-year-old eats all day long. kids are always hungry when they get into that growth spurt face. host: north carolina, republican line. caller: what is your salary, and who pays it? : my salary is paid by share our strength. organization that is funded by donations from all over the country. we have a staff of about 100 people in our washington office. his full-time work. when i started out, i was $25,000 aid probably year. i make more than that now. all of our salaries for the top

10 staff are available on a form that the irs puts out. host: north carolina, independent line. caller: he did not want to say what histua just actual salary was. i would like to know that. , just for the ebt, i have seen personally, and i would challenge him at any time, i can go and prove how many food stamp cards are sold $.50 on the dollar. i do not say it is not a good idea, but it is pushed too much greater the people that need it, i know people that are on medicaid. they get eight dollars a month. have $40 left for their self when they get through with their housing and

everything else. i just think it is not managed well. there is a lot of political pressure put into it. i have nothing against it, but i just wish it was managed better. has been an effort over the last number of years to improve the management of the snap, food stamp program. it has improved dramatically. be 96%ow considered to accurate in terms of getting the right amount of money to the right people. is there some fraud and abuse of the program, sure. there is in every program. but it is a sickly squeezed out -- -- it has been basically squeezed out why all types of reforms over the past few years. when you think about who is on the snap program, the overruling -- overwhelming geordie recipients are children, elderly, and disabled.

there are some people selling for $.50 on the dollar, but it is a very small percentage. host: in louisville, kentucky. independent line. caller: he sent so much year that has contradicted the other comments he made. the one thing that stands out, he said that children are picky thrownand food was being away. if a child is hungry, truly hungry, they will eat what is put in front of them. i'm really shocked that he was able to say that with a straight face. in andolunteered afterschool program here in louisville. witnessed the wasting of so much food as these children would come in, and they never sent thank you, they never said please. the food was given to them, they would eat the desert, and they went up the rest of the food into the trash.

forn prepared this food these children, and my question is, when do the parents become responsible for making sure that the children are fed? it started out, when i was school, that there were free breakfasts. that was not enough. so then the free lunch came along. that was not enough. and now have afterschool programs. that the parents would do whatever they possibly could to get food on their child's plate, whether they worked two jobs, they claimed people's houses, they did whatever they possibly could to get food on the children's play. and now we have told them, do not worry, we will take care of sure that yourke children are getting this are that. you do not have to raise your children anymore, you do not have to provide for your children. we will do this for you. guest: the best thing we could

do for any children is make sure that their parents have what they need to support them, that they have the opportunity, that they have the education. most important that they have the jobs, that the jobs are available. that is not the case for everybody in america today. if you believe that kids are the least responsible for the situation they are in, and the most folder applicable one way to break the cycle over tea is to invest in those kids and make sure that they turned out to be in a position where they can get good jobs. ,ost: we have seen the recovery for the first time in history of 45 million americans living before the -- below the poverty line for four years in a row. it is to be the parents would do whatever it took, to get food on the table. are these parents doing two jobs, or working a night shift or whatever, but because of the

still not making a living wage, and perhaps the time factor with making sure that kids are eating? nowt: bunge limited is down to percent. a lot of families are having trouble finding jobs. i can only speak for the families we were with. we work with families and schools all across the country. they are desperate to do whatever they have to do to support their kids. i have seen lots of families where they do work two jobs. they are working at minimum wage or even less. enough not have resources to make sure that kids have their nutrition they need. the kids and families we have seen, if anybody has the opportunity to volunteer at a the bank, or a shelter over thanksgiving holiday, or heading into the christmas holiday, i think you will find incredible gratitude. i am so moved every time i am in a place like that to see how grateful people actually are. my experience is very different from the previous callers. host: when did you start share our strength, and why?

31 years ago, and it worked on capitol hill for quite some time. i worked in the government on a staff of the united states senator. for me that was the spark to say do something best marshaled the resources that we have in the united states and create an opportunity for people to literally share their strength. e thinking of those in the restaurant industry. by asking them to participate in food and wine events that teach low income in families we raise point $5 billion. we focus most of our work on child hunger in the united is takes. we went through this kind of trajectory of working internationally, we do a little bit internationally, but realizing we had great need in the united, and the skills and talent and resources to solve

that problem. host: you say there is enough food, that this problem is solvable. guest: no question. we have food in abundance, at a number of callers have talked about how they have seen food waste, and we'll see that restaurants and other cases .here food gets thrown out we have food and nutrition programs, we have talked about the snap program, school lunch, school breakfast, and women and programs.upplemental what we do not have is the connection between the kids and the families who need those resources and the food itself. place,grams that are in like school lunches, school breakfast, those are not meant to be permanent sports for families. snape is not meant to be a permanent support. these are ways of getting people or a certaincrisis

situation and opportunity to get themselves out of it for me to stay healthy, to stay fit so that they can get their education, get a job. host: ron in texas. good morning. you guys were talking about snacks at school earlier. i live in a small town in the middle of nowhere in tech is where we have pre-k-12 that actually go to the same school in the same buildings. my son is in the third grade. they each at 11:00 a.m. in the morning. the pre-ke before they do. you guys are talking about snacks, wouldn't be mandatory -- would it be to provide a snack before they go home if they got early, because he is starting when he gets home? what you're talking about

is something that the school needs to take up. our last caller. caller: i want to address three different things that he spoke about. number one, you are a blessing. it does not matter what your salary is. to work with feeding children and adults is something that is great to do. it does not matter. calling likele you're supposed to take your salary and feed the children. i worked in social services, and training of food stamps. we switch to what is called electronic benefits card. the meals aref

computerized and you get the credits put on your card like a credit card to purchase food. i know that you are focusing on children. but having worked in social services, and working with the elderly, the food stamp program or snap benefits program, sometimes only gets $10 to an elderly person who makes $800 a month. different types of expenses. there are a lot of people that are hungry and starving out there. just because you see 10 or 20 throw the food away or may do something else have ae food, they may cell phone, there are thousands and millions of others who are -- starving, who are

hungry, and just because a child throws withoutyo food, does not mean that they are hungry. i am glad that you work with them. we hear from lots of representatives of seniors that this is a problem for them as well. 900,000 veterans are on the foodstamp program today. people who have served our country also getting this assistance. thank you for talking about that. host: thank you for being with us. when we come back we will take a short break and then turn attention to the french president francois hollande who has touched down at has\/\ -- who has touched down and is making his way to the white house.

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to end today's washington journal where we began. getting your thoughts on whether the u.s. should form an anti-isis coalition with the president of france. he is on his way to talk to president obama about this. he will then talk to germany's leader and then on to moscow to talk with vladimir putin. britain,th great letting support -- pledging support. do you think the u.s. should be a part of this coalition? , call us atve yes (202) 748-8000. if no, call (202) 748-8001. earlier this morning we talked with the white house

correspondent about this meeting. we began by asking what is on the agenda for this meeting coming up this morning. comes with a he stronger voice and leverage on the international stage. he is coming to washington to ask to move faster against isil. that could mean more strikes in syria, more intelligence sharing and also, more openings on the diplomatic front. host: what will the president say to president obama about russia? that is the most difficult one. him as a to portray mediator between the u.s. and russia in syria, while some of it might be true, it is very difficult point.

he is looking for a large and unique coalition. i do not think anybody believes we will end up in one single coalition where does the u.s. and russian forces would be under one commands. looking for closer coordination between the two, and long way to go. -- ended his a long way to go. in turkey they had a more constructive tone. they had this fundamental contradiction and russian position between what they actually say, what their goals are, and what they are doing on the ground. i would not expect any breakthrough on that front, but it is part of the process for common ground. friends believe that this question of what happens to

bashar al-assad needs to be answered in order to defeat isis? guest: the french position has before theand attacks france was one of the ardest opponents of a ssad. involved, andas does a matter of words and a matter of time frame. think they're looking for some sort of compromise whereby the whole point was not be asking for departure every single day so that diplomacy can go on. it remains to be seen exactly how far they will go in that regard. host: yesterday the french davident met with cameron. david cameron pledging to fight alongside france against isis.

he will go to washington, and then what is on his agenda for the week? guest: one of the busiest weeks of his residency. is here for only one day and that he is flying back to paris where he will meet with angela merkel tomorrow. and when the focus switches to moscow where he will be on thursday and need president vladimir putin. -- meet president vladimir putin. you also have the conference where more than 140 heads of state will be meeting in paris. climate will be on the agenda, and there will be another group of people for president hollande to meet. this is a big diplomatic week for him, the biggest since he was elected three years ago. host: we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. our conversation earlier this

morning with the white house correspondent about this meeting that is taking place at the white house this morning. after the two leaders get together to talk about what is bet with isis they will holding a joint news conference. that will take place this morning at 11:30 a.m. eastern time. you can tune into c-span for our coverage of that. we turn to you now on your thoughts about the coalition to defeat isis. charles in west virginia. he says yes. tell us why. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i would say yes because i know it is difficult, but there -- it really needs to happen. i think our position we should modify on whether the syrian president should have to go, because look what has happened in other parts of the world

where we took the leader of the country out. dictator, whatever you want to call them. the void that was left, it has been a disaster. this is a time when we can all come together. u.s. compromises on that point, what about the sudanese that have been attacked i bashar al-assad? many of the papers note that he has committed more atrocities against the syrians that isis has. what do you do if you allow -- how do you allow him to stay in place and not add more attention to the middle east with the sudanese -- with the su nis? very good point. but we can go on fighting between ourselves for eternity, that this guy was wrong, that guy was wrong. president tried to form a

government and squeeze them out of the government in a rock. -- iraq. you haveoint in life to want to go forward instead of worrying about going backwards. if you always worry about going backwards you will always go backwards in there again, it is just a thought. i do not see how isis will be destroyed. look how dangerous it is right now with all the different factions. you know they are going to be , withg into each other just this russian plane such. that is a another private sample. -- prime example. down thekey shooting plane saying that the russian jet violated airspace. they gave a warning 10 times. the russian president saying that turkey has stepped them in the back on this. reportinge outlets

that this morning. we're getting your thoughts on whether or not the u.s. should form the coalition with russia and france. ellen is next in california. you say no. caller: good morning. i say no because i say let the russians go broke fighting the war. we are already broke. what are we going to do, or a money from china? the european nations need to fund this war. if we go in we should bill them for the cost of our people getting involved. secondly i do not think the saudis should be an issue -- should be an issue. we have made very bad choices and changing regimes and putting in new leaders. there is no good replacement for bashar al-assad at this

point. it would only lead to more turmoil. lastly i just finished a book i've brian lamb on the arabs. depth onnto historical the various historical nations. a good historical overview. i would encourage people to read this. knowledge on what is going on in the middle east. rodney in california, you say yes. good morning. caller: good morning. host: tell us why you say yes to this coalition. believe a war on terrorism is the war that everybody should be fighting in i do not believe that america should be putting boots on the ground. i think we need to understand that president obama has kept us

terroristseeping the out of here. it is a war for everybody. it is a global war. -- we should be involved, we should keep it at a minimum. at aould keep the fighting minimum. i would just like to know, where has the french president and? -- been? attackedntry has been so many times it seems like they should have believed does end then fighting. i appreciate your time. locks,indsor connecticut. you also say yes. go ahead. i believe we need a coalition, but i want to bring up a couple of aspects of this that we really have not talked about and we have to think through. we do defeat isis. we still have al qaeda. we still have the taliban. we still have boko haram.

that isa splinter group just spreading out. there is no way to stop other splinter groups from springing up. another part i would like to ring up is -- bring up is that these groups like isis and al 5000 dollarsnd entering western economies out of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. we have to put up planes, we have to put up troops, have all the bombs, remanufacturing things, move people all over the world. and what does accosting them to a video showing that they are planning to attack washington or wherever? for just a pittance for them, they are draining us out of hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. might be and others interested in a new magazine piece that came out from bloomberg.

the cover of their latest addition last week. while u.s. efforts to cut off islamic state funds have failed. they take a look at were isis gets its money. it says that the airstrikes that the u.s. has conducted so far or lost not because u.s. officials were against the oil fields, the obamaafter administration and fixed a miscalculation. underestimated islamic states overall revenue by $400 million. was actually group thinking of 500 million dollars from boiling year, once more, just if you are before the islamic state suicide bomber blew himself up outside the november,rance in

they conceded in a press briefing that some american damaged oil operations from no more than a day or two. not only are the getting money from crude oil, but they're getting money from taxing the people who live in their caliphate. they are taking over farmland worth hundreds of millions of dollars. rodney in florida, you say no. because we have to get to the bottom of what is going on. muslims areem it's asthe koran, and death to the infidels, and they raise their kids up to kill any christians or anybody who does not believe in muslim belief, i do not care if you take all the oil, all of the money, when

you're fighting religion, people are willing to die for that. andaround the middle east russia and turkey and all of them, they believe the same thing. they will never have a coalition with united states because they believe we are infidels. as long as you have that thought and that belief coming that will never come together with the people. there are a lot of things they do not believe in that we are .arrying the banner of host: not all muslims believe in the same radical beliefs of isis. in previous caller mentioned a ed the arabs.

it was written by david lamb. next caller. caller: four years i'm not understood why we have not gotten all in or all out. we are always saying we're the most powerful nation in the world with the most weapons, the most military. why don't we use them? donecould have been easily. we have been talking about how we have a coalition rate where has this -- a coalition. where has it been? includedhas not russia. do you trust russia now? caller: yes, actually i do. leave bashar al-assad in, and worry about him later. take isil out. why weren't we doing this 10 years ago? we have all of the weapons in the world and we are bombing -- why are we bombing refineries?

host: that was a miscalculation that the u.s. government made. they thought that they were actually refining this oil, and so they were bombing refineries. but they were not. they were selling actual crude oil, and it is villagers and civilians that are transporting the crude oil to the refineries. caller: so we went to war without death? those crazy. people are going to die. host: let me show you the front pages of some of the papers this morning, beginning with the wall street journal. russia, who and the iranian leader are finding tomon ground when it comes syria. they believe he should stay, but for different reasons. vladimir putin may his first visit to arrive in nearly a decade yesterday. newsis from the world

section of the wall street journal. new showcased their partnership. they are united on syria, but the u.s. hopes alliance is not solid. you also have in the usa today about the is it that mr. putin made to the ayatollah, saying he e came bearing gifts in a deal of uranium. an air defense system that has been on hold for years. the papers noting this morning that iran wants to keep us your allah saw in place because he has been a supporter of their efforts to aid has below and making syria available to ship weapons and support to has below. but russia has a different reason. they want to show that russia stands by his friends and will

defeat what foods has is a american strategy of democratization around the world. those are the motives by iran and russia when it comes to fighting isis in this country of syria. next caller, you say no. good morning. caller: yes ma'am. i say no. because everyng gets intonited states a war in the middle east we have financial debt. warswe are fighting these we get more debt and we have to borrow money from china and other places. i feel like we should not be involved in this war because from my financial standpoint i think to take -- we need to take care of ourselves first.

it is time for the middle east to start fighting their own wars and take care of themselves -- they are have going to continue to fight whether we have a coalition or not. i think right now the resolutions for americans is to .tay away from it keep our government, get in a better financial plays. ce. king of dollar says we are facing a third world war against isis. becomingof jordan says battles will be part of a third world war against humanity, making remarks in the wake of the deadly isis committed paris a terror attacks -- paris terror attacks last week. he described the terror group as a savage outlaws of religion,

saying that islam is under assault by these radicals. they respecting the laws and no boundaries. on tuesday the jordanian leader called the french president to express his condolences for the terribly terror attack -- a deadly terror attack. jordan is a member of the us-led coalition against isis. they have stepped up their efforts against the terror group video surfaced of them brutally executing a royal jordanian air force pilot. next caller. caller: we are already by supportings the other terrorist groups. of them,t to get rid we need to be joined with everybody that wants to get rid

state., or islamic instead our whole intent is to get rid of a side first -- bashar al-assad first, which is s said overthrow seven governments. not once has it worked. there is no one to replace bashar al-assad. there is no difference in the other times we have done this throughout the decade and we are spending trillions of dollars supporting these errors groups -- terrorist groups for whatever reason. partly due to the fact that we want to get rid of bashar al-assad, and we're trying to get them to help us. islamic state will take over

syria as soon as we get rid of him. there is no replacement. we need to work together. host: what about iran in this whole thing? russia and iran are working together to fight against isis those inse in time -- time monsieur al-assad forces. caller: there is no free syrian army anymore. they all work and supply the no problem.e, with nobody seems to really understand that. and so what if iran wants to get rid of them? world war ii, we worked with russia and anybody else who was stop germany. sometimes you have to work with your enemy to get rid of the immediate problem. and then get rid of and take care of your enemy. take a look at this

washington post editorial this morning about iran and its conviction of washington post reporter jason rosie o'donnell -- rezaian. iran said out of a that he is been sentenced to prison, the same account he had offered on august 9. the verdict has not officially been handed down in it was not finalized. not been informed about a verdict or a sentence and what could explain this welter of misinformation? possibly he is being dangled by the regime is based for prisoner exchange. maybe he is a part in a power struggle between the highlight judiciary and the government of

president hassan rouhani. we don't pretend to know. what ought to be clear is that iran is subjecting an american citizen and journalists to cruel and arbitrary treatment. way agaington journal on their reported most been in prison for nearly 500 days. -- who has been in prison for nearly 500 days. turning to moscow to get the help. u.s. officials have put the raq's primeof i minister in the lead, a move that has outraged many tribal leaders. he is politically incapable of extending a truly inclusive hand to the sunnis/ . today, tonion pages

defeat isis creates a sunni state. if defeating isis means restoring puppets, that is neither feasible nor desirable. rather than striving to re-create the world war i map washington should recognize that new geopolitical strategy. thebest alternative to islamic state in northeastern syria must iraq is a new independent sunni state. it has economic potential as an oil producer, and could be a bulwark against both mr. bashar al-assad and baghdad. the rulers of the arab states of the persian gulf who should know now the risk to their own security could provide financing. and after turkey struck down has calledn jet nato

an emergency meeting for later today to talk about what happened there. russia is saying that it did not , and canhe airspace prove it. next caller, you say no. caller: what is a coalition anymore? i think he should be in jail for war crimes against his own people. they try to put it on the republicans for us insulting them. i have muslim friends that they do not go out and medicalized themselves -- radicalize themselves. that's what republicans need to make clear. i do not think they speak enough about it. we are about a certain type of allcal muslim instead of

muslims. host: in texas, you say yes. caller: i support any kind of cooperation between france and russia and the united states to bring down this evil force. , thenow the old saying enemy of my enemy is my friend would apply here. i think we just need to go forward and defeat this group. but i haven't the question about why israel is never mentioned it we pour millions into israel, and they just stand by and watch the united states and other countries fight these battles are we do not hear very much from anyone on why israel should not be involved. i want to know why. host: kathy in north carolina. you also say yes. caller: i am for the coalition russia,rn europe,

jordan, israel, all coming together to stop isis. our president is weak. , whother presidents closer know the culture, who know the russia and iran and countries who've been calling out for help for years. not think president obama has done his duty to protect not only our country but our allies. host: take a look at what the spokesperson had to say yesterday at the daily briefing about what russia needs to do if it wants to form this coalition. need to ensure that they have a military strategy that is consistent with the diplomatic and political objectives that they themselves have identified. that has in the real problem that russia has had in terms of pursuing their own strategy and

also in terms of getting people to go along with it there is this fundamental contradiction to what they say that their goals are and what they're actually doing on the ground. the practice the president acknowledged that the terrible problems that are plaguing syria right now will andire a political solution a political transition. but as long as russia is engaged in a significant military effort to prop up the sheer olive sauce, it is going to only make it more difficult for that transition to take place in . bashir up this year it is only going to make it more difficult for that transition to take place. what we would like to see from to theis a commitment i counter i still focused effort

that our coalition is carrying out. talking about what russia needs to do if they need to form a coalition with the u.s. and france. the president of france here in washington, going to meet with the president and then holding a joint news conference after that discussion they will be taking questions from reporters. we will have coverage of that at 11:30 a.m. eastern time. we will get your thoughts on u.s. should even agree to this coalition. south carolina, you say no. caller: i am tired of muslims banks grew nice -- being scrutinized. host: you have to turn down your television. joseph, in georgia, you say yes. caller: i think we should definitely join out. i just don't think it is a matter of if we should, it is a

matter of how strongly we should. i think the gathering force, because we cannot take the down from planes and since they are scattered on the ground, i see it hit them all and we hit them hard. host: joseph say yes to an anti-isis alliance with russia and france and by the way, chris christie new jersey governor, is oping to revive his campaign by talking about his strategy against isis. he will get a speech today in front of the council on foreign relations. we will have coverage of that at 12:30 p.m. eastern. that will be on c-span2 for those interested to see what he has to say. speaking of politics, the republican national committee out with a new ad. >> this cannot be an american fight. is, from thetruly

start our goal has been to contain. we have the right strategy and we will see it through. >> it is not particularly helpful to make the case. >> a particular focus and even say ok, they are really angry because of this or that. ♪ >> this cannot be an american fight. the rnc out with a new ad about those running for president in 2016 on the democratic side. we're getting your thoughts this states on what united should do as the french president araiza in washington and meets with president obama to try to convince him and others to join a broader coalition to fight isis. here is a headline this morning

from yahoo! news about the turkish government shooting down the russian jet. shotsh forces in syria dead pilots of down russian jet according to the deputy commander. also this morning, from the washington forced -- washington post, it says president obama who returned from a nine-day overseas trip called to intensify participation in against militants in syria and iraq. only handful of those nations are actually produce fading in what has been more than 8000 airstrikes over the past 14 months. united has slowed messenger to -- have flown the vast majority of them.

omar, indiana, you say yes. go ahead. caller: yes. you should know that russia and principledad positions as to why they support a solid. russia, one of was the soviet union was supporting his father way back in the 1970's. war,g the iran and iraq only two countries supported the wrong. that was libya and syria. iran and russia have runcible reasons why they support syria. i am in favor of a coalition with iran and the soviet union. but one of your callers asked you why israel was so quiet and you did not say anything. not one single bullet from isis has been fired toward israel, and in fact some

of the isis fighters who have been injured by bashir al-assad's soldiers have been treated in israeli hospitals. that should tell you something. host: what does it tell you? i guess we won't find out. virginia, luis, you say no. caller: i don't think that we should follow friends anywhere. the last time we followed france, it was called vietnam. i don't think we should ever follow friends anywhere, or the united kingdom. no more wars. let's let russia be russia. they are not the soviet union anymore. and let's stop this nato expansion where everything wants to go. host: referring to david cameron yesterday pledging britain's support for this coalition, and the prime minister meeting with

president along in france yesterday. he went right before parliament when he got to his country and made the argument for expanding and growing britain's military and also fighting against isis. california, why do you think we should for this coalition? for the coalition with the addition of israel and expansion programs. seem to be sitting on the sidelines and enjoy the whole thing. host: frank in texas, you say yes as well. believe we should form an anti-isis coalition with france and russia. i do not think we should allow it to happen like we did after world war ii where there will be a division of the country. i think we should go ahead and

form the coalition, get rid of vices, and then leave the syrians to the syrian civil war and their problems. the israelisof getting into the conflict, this would be an absolute lightning rod in that entire region. all of thealesce countries into fighting against the u.s. and the coalition. the israelis need to stay out of it for that reason. they would just inside and the cause an explosion in that area. host: thank you for watching. enjoy the rest of your tuesday. ♪

♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] x in about an hour and a half, president obama will hold a news conference with francois hollande. you can watch it live at 11:30 a.m. eastern here on c-span and we will take your phone calls afterwards, as well as your comments and tweets. also, today's wrote to the white house coverage continues with chris christie. he will be speaking about national security issues and plans to outline steps he things will strengthen u.s. intelligence capabilities. live at 12:30that p.m. eastern on c-span two. later today, we will head back to the white house where president obama will hand over the award for freedom