we come here to culminate with this session before we have our banquet in a few hours. before we begin this session, i would like to introduce the cofounder and president who will kickoff the and convention. >> in the name of god most gracious and merciful. thank you for joining us. i hope you plan on staying with us for the banquet tonight. it is our 15th annual. we started these events shortly go. but we are growing. will see tonight hopefully how the impact has become a national voice on some of these issues. tonight in today this convention

has -- is celebrating our shared humanity. humanity thated will help us overcome the ideology of hate. whether that hate is manifest in the form of international terrorism or in the form of xenophobia and hate crimes domestically. we need to have a united front. people have been asking us since in bernadino, first they asked what is it in your religion that causes people to do things like what happened in san bernardino? religion iss our telling us to do exactly the opposite. our religion is about mercy and compassion and justice. our religion is about -- if you apparently they

are not reading the same text that we are reading. or it is not being processed. the nemesis to terrorism. the antidote to terrorism. we can empower mainstream communities to overcome and prevail the ideology. out? to go toing muslim -- >> is obviously cannot make this problem disappear. what is required is civic engagement. we demonstrate our work to the american public.

we the example in the standardbearer of our religion and we see the front exactly like that. there are french operation like every religious group has. we are the answer to the problems of people -- insecurities and fears in america. work on the ideological problem. we work hand-in-hand in partnership. we're probably up with us today the lapd. people from the cherished departments the department of homeland security,

they are here to say to american muslims this is the home for all people. they are here to protect us. the way to overcome the problems of xenophobia is to not be intimidated into shoes the numbers. we will not be intimidated. you cannot terrorize us. they want to influence audiences by terrorizing people. when we say we have the stamina of perseverance and to say you will not terrorize us, finally they ask us aren't you

frustrated all the time? we were just commenting on terrorism of backlash over and over again. the answer to that is yes and no. yes there is friction. there is anyway on us. the same time this is our light. the terrorism that is coming from the disintegration of the control, butannot

we can control the environment here. with that i think you. we'reack over to the area still glad to have her. she's been on radio and television into the wonderful job. he took a step back and thought one of thenniversary

things that came first and foremost into our mind was to change the nature of our communities. 15 years ago at annual conventions and convention halls is the place for muslims met. new ones.nds and today, conventions are not the way to go. you can go instead online. when we decided to do was to turn our convention on. instead go out to communities to bridge the gap and listen to communities and also bring to them the voices

that they may not be hearing in their local areas. and through new innovative projects both online and in person. they are changing the nature not just in our community, so you may be seeing the pictures on the screen of some of the five and convention sessions with had. the first one took place of the islamic center of san diego valley. voicesured up-and-coming who are leading change in this area is. the second session we had was at the islamic center california working the issue,. it's declared illegal in homelessness here in los angeles. its original priority and one of

his home for most muslims. our third session was held at the wellness center in the valley. we did was elect the auditorium together -- to discuss the issues that don't get discussed very often. that was an audience full of muslim young people as well as mormon young people will be talked about religious challenges that are facing. we had a conversation about everything from relationships and 88 two our scriptures to holly make moral decisions then we moved to orange county where we considered muslims on screen. and asked if getting any better?

let's will become to today. we have up-and-coming muslims work in the industry to give as whetherhand account of things are getting any better and where the opportunities for change our. and then we wrapped it up last week of the you on cultural center in west l.a.. learning lessons by other faith communities will been challenged by marginalization is well. the lessons we gained there are more valuable than ever particularly considering the events of this week. this session is called new era new media. there could not be a more appropriate time for us to consider the meaning of this.

when we came up with it, the new era was not the number you day. are changing the very land and of what it means to be in negative citizen and an active is. the american muslim community is changing. but since you are new media challenging old media whether its print newspaper or television network. to beay i'm really leave able to introduce you to a fantastic panel that we have were going to share their areonal insight where they at the leading edge of some of these very much in.

you have their bios and the programs are not going to read them in detail. i want to introduce the panelists and jump right into our conversation. next she has been a long and partner with impact. you heard about our young leaders holly with them at cbs has been a regular stop and an amazing place. to her right we're really happy theave us megan darby deputy managing editor of the los angeles times. could not be a busier news day so we wrote that she decided to get weight today.

and the only male on the panel noch is a nice change stranger to this community room. southern california and has been media isazer in new before social media listed. we started to really but islamic organizing online and really alex acted ways. since then he went on to serve with the state department of the senior adviser. supported young social entrepreneurs around the world in muslim countries of the change. he has since come back and started something start of a debater supposedly for muslim social numbers.

thank you for coming all the way from washington dc to be with us. our panelists to start with opening, i want to say two things. one is that we hope to have with buto executive producers they scheduling conflict of last-minute and were not able to join us. but wee in the program are pleased to an intimate conversation here with retirement we have. i also want to say that this session is being reported by season and and it will air later this month of these and. please keep an eye out for that. also we are joined by viewers online through periscope. we will hopefully be getting questions from our viewers online. he asked that you share question about the session. i am thrilled to start the

conversation led him to these alternate between your questions in my own. tweakl also ask you to questions. all you need to do is use the hashtag in fact 15. please this conversation is yours i'm just kick it off. with all that is going on, we're talking about an intersection between old media and new media. megan and tiffany u-boats in an old media. you work in television and one of the largest newspapers. you have been a pioneer of looking at new media. observationr broad

about how the landscape has changed during your career? changing? is a real jason we're seeing? is it more noise than substance? is supposed to all the love the work season. i think we are seasons media. absolutely. i've been with cbs for 17 years now. as a changed? absolutely. exponentially. i look out into the primary now i see a lot of or had. it's almost an extension of our hands now. definitely it has changed everything is also immediate and fast.

for me with issue press releases and take a while. everything i would say right now is much more immediate and regardless if it is factually accurate. it does nott it -- matter if it is true area. that has changed more than anything. it is no longer that we have the wings of the -- 6:00 or 11:00 news. it is immediate. the first thing you look at it the person you check. i want to tweet about it on facebook elena tell everyone. that has changed remarkably since i started on this business. thatrtainly is something

-- i was talking about always tough to call the library. limit help you locate a person. that's certainly a challenge. also exciting because there's an immediate the. change usagesal publish the newspaper and you would hear from or in our readers through letters to the editor. he still had printed messages on paper and you have to go to the operator to get it. where i think the new landscape can be exciting is that you can talk to people more directly. you can find out more about people.

you have to make your that you are accurate. is a condition that. only through with strewn with dr. once rumored once was lots to the sensitivity repercussions of making the day or overstating understating information is a challenge. example, every story we read about san bernardino we have to make sure was moderated because we knew immediately what kind of comments we get. there's a difference between a constructive conversation questions about an issue and hate speech. think were trying to figure out where that -- where the value lies. i do have an honest conversation. somethingg of the

that pollutes what you're trying to discuss. i remember finding myself in silicon valley in the 90's surrounded by the question. this new media being the one that places an old one. there driven by the same -- the medium is the message. i think those people did not realize the -- what they were writing. it started with multimedia that with the internet then went to social media. revolution,fter we've come all this way. we're still trying to grapple with what that means. if you look at the system wearing now, -- the system we are in now.

easier toe it is much put out sensationalist or violent or agitating themes that peaceful ones. the internet favors extreme beach. when peoplething -- talk about extremists each versus moderate speech, they have a leg up. thing is that people's attention spans have been driven to tweak things. i do you capture big ideas and small information. lisa cholodenko tree. attention spans have gotten so small. what we're finding is people tweeting? they're posting the traditional stuff they used to bash.

within 15 years at sea value to nothing. that will report. it actually constitutes the content. it emerged to trash it but it is based on it now. we're finding solid journalism coming back. people are starting to do much more traditional -- i feel like we've come full circle. we're still in the middle of that revolution. you encounter all the turbulent people for 10 years were saying that. i think we need to do is go back to the basics.

start as ourselves the medium is not the message. maybe the message is the message. maybe go back to snorkeling. this has now been democratized. people can tell stories in a tweet. muslims have embraced that media to influence the media. we just started down this journey. i don't know where will end up, but i hope it will end in ways where we do understand each other. this hostility is a horrible place to be if you are a woman or fewer some of people not familiar with. i do think these things will pass sure.

as the majority of us realize ie opportunity that we have, am hopeful. >> one thing i would like to say that a lot of times when we talk about negative comments were negativity wins, i feel that people feel they are 10 feet tall by the computer or phone. say whatever you want because you don't physically have to face the ramifications of talking to someone face-to-face. and the thing would talk about negativity is i am an internal optimist. when you ask someone how they are doing in the sand great, no one ever asked how great? it's one of those things where if you say i'm doing sick much over, we can talk about that over and over again similar to what happens online with the

gets heated. thery loves company area urgency of now, particularly hasking news situation impacted decision-making. changedou think it is at the l.a. times from when it was a daily newspaper to around-the-clock news cycle. particularly when new information is being contributed online. >> how that is infecting decision-making at the los angeles times, perhaps even about what constitutes a good sport these days. what may prevent speculation. >> i can talk a little bit about what happened on what the

morning. somethinggly enough, was amiss in san bernardino -- it was a tweet the fire departments and tell they never was wanting to shooting that have up to 20 victims. most newsrooms now have someone constantly monitoring news on social media. you might hear something incorrectly follow up on it. the other night distance of a pilot was found dead in the first and -- indication was. you are and that you investigate. i thought immediately of that the number be right? i got up i walked to the floor and started having people well. we confirmed with the fire department that that was the information they had started listening to the police did our.

police scanner. they sometimes speculate on there. just like social media it is something you would not report directly. since i think probably three whileers immediately they're heading their we're struckto work on sources to figure out what we thought we knew. really we're trying to figure out how we operate in this era. i would have to room how many of are waiting for your

newspaper in the morning to find out what happened in the world? the whole. i'm amazed. good for me. that mostld say is people are not waiting even if they get a newspaper area particularly if you choose that mike is that the broader implications were not clear. in his country we got to these mass shootings of the running regularity right now. this was something that was pretty unusual at one point in my career and now does not feel unusual of all. we have reporting from colorado springs. it is 17. newsnk as a respected source we bear responsibility fictionrating fact from regulation area i will take

scott letterman. the first organization actually. other people instead of mr. without having a source. we were very careful to make sure everything we were working was true. we're talking before this i was saying we did not even connects the chase in the firefight with the police officer are's immediately. we did not connect them until it was elected. i was at a conference couple of years ago call the future of storytelling and one of the men that the conference who actually work in the music business was talking about how would music became available online and people to post to youtube and various other sources, a lot of people thought it has been

democratized. taste makers won't matter as much because people will set with a light and he said that an interesting thing happened. becauseme suddenly more it's difficult to sort through everything out there. you still looking for someone to help you during and understand the new. why is is exactly someone who is in the rear -- the ringer journalism model rear it scares me. need forhere's a professionals to these be a part of the conversation. i'm not saying the should dominator troll, but have a conversation with them. >> a monster to you because a situation like san bernardino, there's a line between new media hollywood idea but why is it getting more blurred?

the different kinds of things that are going on. i'm curious about how the events of energy no impact decision-making at the network. >> look to television to decide -- define social norms. yes it's for entertainment. however sometimes a lot of dramas will feature storylines that might be received as insensitive. the storyline look at the contents of the too many drugs the news? we look at those and make sure that we're big incident to the climate as well as our audience. even on supergirl would make sure that switch that particular episode.

>> with the race for eye rolls. eyeballs. how does that impact decision-making review of the network? we don't to have the blue executive producers here because firstive -- behind the all-female cap broadly speaking. hulu isous how impacting the kinds of decisions for place like cbs television's. what yes it really is that we deal television will. a number one and most-watched absolutely makes you feel the television is very much significant.

it still is the same in that sense. 16 to 15 years ago there were only be met. now you cannot go through all of these cable stations. think that anyone also right now that has a tribute concert greater. everyone has that voice and i think that's important also were talking about images and representation. all of that really matters. sure.know the impact

being and starring roles of people of color, is that helping your job at the network? >> absolutely. anytime we would not -- you cannot say the word empire without everyone wanting on their schedule. any of the shows, but began will have to create their own where it is. sometimes they do it in a less traditional base. it's important for myself in the on these roles making sure we asked the russians when we look at casting list. does this really look like our america? is this what someone would actually a is as accurate? i know it doesn't have to be factual, but we have to be casting the widest that.

what if these images shown? i think a lot of times there's a tremendous amount of unconscious why is. as well as conscious bias. have a great example of this. it was a world war firefighter. i said you know what what if we did asian-american female? the casting director said what the hell? said well the fire department and differences in doesn't even have an asian-american e-mail. muslims and particularly not the stereotypical, it becomes more moral. it helped me tremendously.

it definitely helps the more that we can see that this is the new normal. >> all caps to vacuum up the question of eyeballs. there all caps of ethical questions involved here. i noticed that this morning the ,ront page of the l.a. times that photos from the inside of the apartment. how did that decision-making happen russian mark to what degree is it influenced by andalls versus news value? what do you feel is the media responsibility towards allowing investigation to take lace? >> is something we took time yesterday area we did have the

furniture in the apartment. we did not immediately use that material because we wanted to assess what happened. that team had actually been cleared by long oarsmen. we were not going into an active team. it was boarded up because the windows have been shattered. the landlord later came out specific cleared. ultimately we decided to show images from inside because i think there was a news value to try and understand. is go inid not do and doith a life the things like moments the mother's drivers license which have a lot of information about her on it.

if you have people who have no connection than being in part on the house. i feel like that's a problem in my situation tv i have to grapple with for years. and notn that moment taking time to assess the value of it. can hear some of the anchor say hold on to get in there. moments theit was a probably a lot of journalists are considering. how is the teaching moment? what is the news value # delegates money because we're ,ot the exact same situation our vehicle for being live is written and visual. i can sit back and watch most of

-- live news broadcast. moment to the true. there were three shooters. mother worked. -- no there weren't. i think, the act of having to write it down make borrowing a little bit cautious. to connect you to this question. when we see politicians are others make decisions we agree something along those lines is basically it's in of what wasicature taking place for how the social media club on a way to hold

public officials accountable russian mark i know you've been a force behind campaigns for good. can you add to this? >> we've been trying to figure out how we use this to empower average. one of those ways. they realized it was a lot of traction in #campaigns. they elevate the discourse to a much more cultural level. inconsistencies are facts or things like that it was about telling a story.

#the, until the story of an ordinary live. we have sporting equipment. it's very humanizing thing. everyone is focusing on the self act. no one is focusing on the outer circle. the people in my community who grown up in my community. as a very intelligent way to go about that. id, we'remuslim

trying to model by example ways that aren't grievant striven. the more we can respond in that way, the thing about social media is you cannot like men your audience. every audience is looking at you in exactly the way. >> please submit your questions if you're tweeting they will be incorporated. reviewers are mine to the same thing. have -- ituestion we seems the world we live in values shock value, what can be done to change the way we communicate to focus on peace in this act. >> this is the big dilemma of

the time that we are in. to be assessed eckley and get something out there is not a skill everyone has. people have to learn how to be nuanced weekly. people always ask me how to get going on twitter? you practice tweeting. how do you convince a big idea into a few words of people want between? >> it just takes practice. i encourage people to get on twitter. not just because you want to get followed because of the great way to convince your thoughts. if you're on the stage people will take it and cut it out. should embrace it as a training mechanism. this is how you tell your story. >> the next question from the audience is for all of you.

as decision-makers to drug trade and the m&a mass consumption, what would you get behind for >> american muslim unity? -- our one of the things youth. internships, i cannot tell you how many times -- once we hire forone nine times out of 10 anyone that is within the college career, apply for internship. be able toibility become more familiar. my current internet now it take. think the good is so wonderful

for him. but for all of the employees in my hallway that he him every day and they're exposed to someone different. i would say that how do we change the narrative, we can become more part of the conversation. it would be internship. getting into the door and making sure that your voice is heard. that's the one thing that we all can utilize on twitter on print journalism, it is making sure that you do have a voice and making people get to know you and not assume that they know because of what they appear. >> i would say along the same lines being active in fields and careers that have the influence to shape storylines is important. -- i thinkt about

the fact that like in our newsroom we have a number of people who are muslim practicing, that influences your daily experience. one of our photographers lives in san bernardino and arizona community for years. what can you tell us about this family? important.really it contextualizes and understands what happened beyond just dropping and from the city of l.a. and try to sort out. >> a dual people to take a step back and think about the way in the days after

9/11. usear people talking about in like a very comfortable logical way. now today when i turn on my tv i familiar faces talented people people in this room are part of the conversation. i get contacted by reporters who are muslim cells. i see my people who started as loggers and became pundit. if you had on to that they are only active in hollywood. come along on way. look at the rising youtube stars. we're there.

we had a mechanism to keep it moving. >> thank you. i want to shift back to television. regina k12 in any form for trying a muslim character. that i think was a huge shop. there are shows like quantico the teacher characters in more and more roles will do you think is -- where the possibilities this is onerails? of the places. the most common criticisms of hollywood is the way that it relates to such a caricature. >> i think the possibilities are

endless right now. there are so many more people that are writing. that's why when i was talking about internship and informational interviews, it is so important to make sure that the boys with those creators are created can be seen as for dimensional people. as human beings that have lives. that eat pizza. i think the more we're able to see that the possibilities are endless. one cannot this year that are extremely proud of his we had an event with all of our acting directors and we had a real talk about whatever succumbs and a. make someone's of ours received the actor. whether citizens of i need someone is going to be the

-- ir the victim don't let think any someone to fill in just for racial purposes. one of the things that i see so often very i will citizens of the day i die. diversity does not mean black. lot and you room a will see the cast of the black girl. >> and -- we did it. diversity means more than one. let's make sure we are looking for what does this look like? where doctors lawyers teachers firefighters. book i think they put this gentleman's children there's life for just the money was. we get to every casting director.

there's no casting director school. you are taking your environment. you taking where you were raised you are taking all those things and they play a role in how you see television characters. i think one of the things i've been so proud of his after they read the book it was like oh. i see that anyone can play this role in the possibilities are empty. we want to see more of that. it doesn't have to be good. when we reach parity? it's been a long day and time. think it's ever steeper diversity sake. it's what the public wants. and if anyone doesn't believe that take the top 30 youtube stars.

when all up and look at how diverse they are. >> i don't want to ever steeper diversity either. look at the numbers, diversity is a smart business imperative. people are leaving so much money on the table it is predict us. not just let's throw in some color. role the worldy the best actor? we always do that one. we saw the first clients that we have to go with the best actor. >> only making sure that were really wide enough, did you look hard enough? do better and be smarter. >> let me ask you a follow-up westjet. like tyrants.

you named the hollywood project. it helps humanize members of other kinds of roles that are out there area there are some who say that we should try to get the shows off the air before they can even start. others say we should engage to make them better. perspective, when communities raise issues particularly on social media what'splant warms, effective and what's not? how does that work? >> being able to properly and effectively communicate. whenever there's been a particular storyline that i'm not all with i recap the impact. i'm going to reach out to that particular community where might feel there might be some activity and have a conversation.

to writersback directors and producers. why is there concern? mentions unsettling actually talk to someone can get the message clear. if the sensationalism? we perpetuating it area type? >> do you want to weigh in on this in terms of how social media campaign can impact portrayals or how community members can leverage or utilize those outlets to make their voices heard in an effective way? >> there are effective and ineffective ones. when you are trying to create a conversation where you are collectively trying to make something better, i think you can achieve something. often, there are campaigns that are just confrontational.

i want complete victory in the way they see it and they want to shut down from the completely. if people are trying to do a show and it has some kind of intersection with an identity that you relate with -- if you shut it down, you reduce the chances of something like that ever being done again because they will say it is not my time. but, you were with them, even if it is not perfect, and it looks like it works and gets out there, then you increase the appetite, people have to look at the long-term. not all social media campaigns -- i tend to favor the ones that are conversational, aspirational, funny and that touch people's hearts. i generally think that the ones ones are forarsh strong circumstances. you simply do want to get someone to shut up. >> thank you. is,next audience question how do we ensure accurate and

honest reporting and journalism and the new era of news and media? how can the audience rely on what they see and hear? i think as consumers of news you have to judge your sources, in part. i think that sometimes what happens is -- this is maybe more than used to happen -- you self identify with a community that you agree with. i think you can see this on facebook. i have people on facebook where they don't really think a lot like i do, and then i have the constant sort of decision to make about whether i still see their feeds or not, because sometimes you get really upset that someone has a different opinion from you and then part of me feels like, this is a window into a part of this country that maybe i don't always get exposed to. it could be good for me to hear that. -- i'd say you have to be a smart consumer and

decide whether you think that the source is objective. where think that that is there are a lot of citizen journalists, but journalism is a professional career. i have spent a long time learning how to report. how to find sources. how to decide whether someone is being truthful or is someone who should be listened to. whether something seems suspicious to me. how to find documents that support the story that i am hearing. somebody said to me, that something is true, i don't take their word for it. i check it with someone else. that is why i think there is a real value in the legacy news organization. where you have that kind of training. use your common sense. because you want to believe something, because it fits into your worldview does not make a trip. consider the source. be careful about what you share, because you may be sharing that

information because it appeals to you. that happens on all ends of the political spectrum. it is hard. it's hard because they're used to be a few sources and now there are many. i think we have to be educated consumers of information. >> the same people who would look at you and say i don't trust that journalists, but i heard a rumor -- they don't see the inconsistency of that. this is where we have a collective conversation about how to properly manage the responsibility that we all have that we can interact with the world now. that has consequences if you say something that is destabilizing. >> there is a tendency to not like the information and believe it is untrue. not liking information or if it makes her happy one comfortable is not the same as the information being false. i think that sometimes we all make that mistake. >> thank you. to piggyback off of the point you just made, and audience question says, one of the problems with social media is that people tend to connect

mainly with other like-minded individuals or groups. with that in mind, is there hope for building bridges and expanding exposure to different ideas online? hadley barrett do that? these --k some of black lives matter or other campaigns, i'm even thinking recently about the backlash to snl for having donald trump on. people are pointing out that he said a lot of different things that probably offend a lot of different communities, but in particular the fact that snl who is been around for 40 something years, has managed to have two or three latino cast members ever. nobody else is funny, i guess? is a consciousness raising of saying, you will have donald trump on, he said all of this stuff, demonstrably not true. this is an organization and a show that has been on for decades that is barely managed to diversify beyond black and

white people. to me, that is a way to sort of cut across. even if you left donald trump, i think that backspace question about why snl has failed to find anyone other than white or african-american people to be on their show, is something that i think you would often think, will that is actually a pretty good question. this a country where latinos make up a significant part of the population and are incredibly influential. so, how is that? >> will never get very far if we segment ourselves so much that we do not understand this problem. here we are, as muslims trying to tell people that they need to let us into their circles, but we will segment ourselves out. we have to make ourselves uncomfortable. i have plenty of conservative friends who are my friends on faith took and everything i post, my muslim friends see it and my conservative and liberal francia. i try to manage that conversation. just last week, i posted

something that hinted at where i stand on gun control. people on my wall were having this very interesting conversation from all different sides. but, i was trained also elevated to another place. where can we find common ground? this is where the beauty of social media comes out, when you have those diverse conversations. but if it's just as the chamber, that is when conspiracy theories happen. and destabilizing stuff happens. >> thank you. i study communications and journalism and learned a lot about agenda setting. it used to be that traditional media, legacy media, had the greatest role in agenda setting within society. it was more of the traditional norm. in this day and age, with #campaigns and social media, how much of that is changing who is setting the agenda in terms of what media covers? i think specifically about the

power of #campaigns this year, like the i stand with ahmed campaign about the texas teenage clockmaker. would that have been on the national media radar? would it have made this kid famous and made the situation in the mess had it not been for social media? to what degree do you each feel -- there is adia trickle up that may be happening from your viewers or your readers? is no question sometimes their campaigns are people reacting to an event. people who misspelled san bernardino for example. that, to me it is interesting because i used to try to read a lot of the ethnic media. like newspapers, watch bt news at night because it was really

like seeing a different america. sort of segmented communities, what was being covered there was very different on a nightly basis than what you would see on the national news. i think, anyway, the value of social media for mainstream journalists, a lot of that conversation, i think, is bubbling up in a way that is in front of you if you are following the right people, active people. twitter is overwhelming. i member the morning of the fee for a rest, i had one channel that was just fifa. that in the sense of exposing more people to different viewpoints, i think it is actually quite interesting and certainly has -- part of our -- we talkversation about some of the major news events overnight.

then, at the end, one of the things they always ask to our reader and engagement and social media team is what have we not talk about that you are seeing in the conversation locally? there's always something. it is driven by social media. it is driven by trends in social media. not everything we cover that. a lot of the times we do look into it. we find stories that were not have been seen otherwise. it can be quite influential. but, i think it is most influential when it is authentic. i think when it feels canned or it feels like a campaign -- i think with the my muslim id and felt very authentic that people were responding to what was said in a way that felt incredibly real. i think that that becomes newsworthy. -- people it terms of say they want to launch campaigns, but unless you're paying for promoted tweets, a campaign is not going to go anywhere unless people organically attach themselves to it. it is meritocracy us in that matter. going back to the original

point, i think one of the biggest challenges of our time is trying to figure out how to manage the information overload that we all get. i would love to dive into every single one of these conversations and really try to get where everyone is coming from, but we are talking about thousands of not millions of conversations and millions of points of view. i still the process that. that is why the reasons that we do retreat into ourselves. it is overwhelming. this is why there is a role for professionals. to help navigate that. because, i think that a lot of people are struggling with this. whyvery community, that is our society is getting so polarized, because i think we just cannot take the overload. >> i agree with all that. i want to get to my question. >> lifted excellent. there is a question here about what it means to be a reporter now in the sense that we have

seen reporters get suspended or fired for sharing their personal opinions on world events or for sharing personal views on hot button issues. in this day and age, where is that line for reporters? whether it is specifically at the l.a. times on a broader sphere and what response ability -- what responsibility do they have and what rights do they have? that's a really fascinating question because it is something -- homepagee, i run the of the website at the l.a. times. but i started off as a traditional print reporter. i have learned a lot about data reporting. so, i think reporters in general have to be much more jack of all trades than they were ever. i know quite a bit of html and things that used to be written down on. if you're are good at writing, it's a bonus.

i have to be in greatly careful about what i say. i don't share generally personal opinions. i think that it is important not to because even if i have a personal opinion, is strong one, i feel like i could still go and cover -- i cover the presidential campaign in 2000. this is why traveled with. i tried with george bush, al gore, i spent six months of my life with dick cheney. and i also spent right a bit of time in a van with ralph nader. i covered all of those people. i think fairly because whatever my personal feelings are about politics, i think that i could bring in objectivity to it. i think if i was out there saying, my personal feelings, then that takes away from my ability to be seen as someone who is fair. you get called out on it. i jumped about something was on facebook and three people were like, you're an editor at the l.a. times you should not be

saying that. i said i'm sorry, also in my sense of humor now, too. to be fair, in my flash of anger, i thought, they have a point. everything is public. the idea that there is a private facebook channel or even if you only allowed authorized people to follow your twitter, that woman got fired for the jokes about ebola or was it ebola? she was an idiot. really. i would say nothing on social media with the expectation that it would not eventually get out. the sony hack taught a lot of us that even what you say your e-mail is potentially public. i think it is challenging. we start conversations. people have to account what they said. you have to be a lot more careful. i think you should be and usually more thoughtful about how you process your personal feelings and how you portray what is happening in reality. >> thank you. >> one of the things with that,

we are in section over sharing population in the sense that i'm going to share that i love this water and here's a picture of what i-8 and here are the shoes i just rot at the mall which are fabulous and i'm going to do this. i always say, when we always say where we are, some of the go around your house. you are telling every step of your life. stop it. the over sharing is unbelievable. in that sense. i think that a lot of times -- i will always tell someone when they say that they are sorry for what they said, i say no you are sorry for what you got caught. if you are in doubt and think you should tweet it or write it, tell a friend. physically, not with a microphone on. >> exactly. there you go. last question for you. considering you are the founder of the labs, tell us about what they are all about and what you hope to do with it and the audience question is a bit for

that, what type of muslim focus startup diesel the market is ready for? >> the whole idea came about 10-15 yearsd spent in what is called the digital islamic economy. i saw vast markets, liberal market, 500 million muslims between the ages of 18-25 that are upwardly mobile, culturally more alike with each other than like their parents generation. they want -- they care about their identity and want to spend on it. very few people actually cater to that market. int i did was try to bring promising startups that i thought could fit a couple of models. one is buying muslims for everybody, meaning that you create and tap into islamic heritage and values and create products with universal appeal. that can transmit that to the masses. i'm a founding board member of -- if anyone has heard of it.

2% of their market is muslims and the vast majority is everyone else. part of that is how do you define -- in a way that is universally acceptable? we are trained to bring in companies that do that. the other thing we're trying to do is create innovation by doing hackathons by bringing people together for a couple of days from different backgrounds to solve a specific challenge. doing it in the muslim communities with muslim identity and life. we have done these around the world and we will start to do them in america. we did when all the w -- abu dhabi. we are doing when it's look on valley. we look to future ones on cultivating muslim storytellers. we want to try to see the environment. what we found is that it is not about skill or talent, but confidence. it is about feeling that you can do it. that is the number one barrier

for most people. we realize that once again people into the situation and we live stream their result and we find the winners of making a developed. they could do amazing things. we are hoping in the next couple of years to start spinning out companies and ideas and initiatives. the first couple of apps come out early next year. that show that there is a lot of talent in this group of people. we have a lot to give the world. show that muslims are not just a source of problems, but of solutions. >> thank you. so, i want to ask a closing question for everyone. it has two prongs, the first is, considering new media now, what do you think we have to look forward to a few years from now? what is your prediction of what will continue to impact your industry or your arena in the years to come that people should keep an eye out for? secondly, we spend a lot of time

talking about the points of darkness. i hope that we can and with the points of light. what is one point of light that forsee that gives you hope how this transition from legacy media to new media can be a force for good? >> what is your prediction for the future and what is a bright spot that you want to give a little attention to? >> prediction for the future i think that there are so many innovative idea thinkers out there that we have not scratch the surface of what we are going to see socially. there are semi-people that are now in institutions that were -- coding is becoming available. we will see the next chapter the next twitter or facebook. there will be multiple generations of that. i think that that will -- it will only enhance television

viewing for us because television is not going anywhere. as much as people say tv is dead, people are watching still. i think that that is definitely going to expand its. i think for the light, because i work in an industry where that is all i see, one of the things that i see tremendously is that i want to continue to provide the access because before anyone can do anything, you need the access and >> sure and then gives them an opportunity. say yes to someone. when someone says yes to you, say yes to someone else. behink that that will really able to get to know each other more and that will be my light. i know that our communities are resilient. i think you're going to see -- you already are, rapidly -- whether it ise

the l.a. times or the washington post or the new york times, the big names in american journalism make much more substantial pay payday to substantial digital news in a way that is sustainable. a lot of us are grappling with these dual operations. you have what is in real time what is online which i think for a long time with you and as lesser, even though it is informing more people than really wetlands in your driveway in the morning. i think that we saw this last week, with december 19 oh, the quality of what we were producing in close to real time with equally better than what we were able to publish in this sort of limited number of pages. i think that that is significant for american journalism because i think that professional journalism does matter and is very important. i think having these organizations make that change isa way that is sustainable

crucial, really, to continuing forward. id, i would just say that think the media is so exciting. like, used to be able to just put something on a piece of paper and print photographs or a flat graphic. that was all that you could do. the reason why i moved into digital is because it was so exciting. you could create databases that lives on that you can explore things on your own and really understand a subject matter. i think different people learn different, so video is incredibly interesting and certainly has existed for a long time outside of print. we were just talking about the video on what a lot of our means. interestingly, we publish it a few minutes he for everything started happening in san bernardino. explain to people that this is not scary, what this means, how people interpret it, in a way that i think it has

something like 3 million views on facebook now. that is like reaching an audience that in the printed l.a. times he never could have. even, coverage of the syrian refugee crisis, which goes beyond just the moment it would have appeared on the front page of the paper and is still accessible to anyone looking for. i see a lot of excitement and a lot of opportunity to really reach more communities and tell stories in ways that are so much more -- i love writing and i love to write. that are more nuanced and go beyond just that medium. know this will be hard for a lot of people to believe, probably a lot of people will not believe this even the events but, given the success that we have had since 9/11, given the immense amount of talent, muslim talent in the pipeline in every possible

field, the most important of the creative field, and given the resilience that america has shown in the face of what is happening, if you ignore the online height, if you look at the real world, i would like to think that we are at that kind of worst of it. five years from now, we will actually be much more integrated, much more accepted, felt like neighbors and we were today. i truly believe that. it is because of the amounts of impact on the social sphere on lots of different spheres, by talented muslims expressing themselves. we have not even scratch the surface. thank you all. please give our panelists a round of applause. [applause] next, republican president candidate, editor lindsey graham of south carolina holds a town hall meeting in new hampshire. after that, another chance to see a discussion on how muslims

arbitrate in the media. then, republican president candidate jeb bush holds a town hall meeting in new hampshire. >> on the washington journal, a political roundtable on the 2016 campaign with democratic pollsters stefan hankin and republican pollster kelly and conway. later, marc ginsberg, former u.s. ambassador to morocco talks that the president strategy to combat isis. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the reagan narrative was that he was a lightweight, grade b actor with premature orange hair which is what gerald ford said about him in 1976. even with all of the successes of this administration,

historians have consistently rated ronald reagan low. i believe that of ideological bias. >> sunday night on q&a, historian craig shirley discusses his book "laugh back." a look at ronald reagan's life after leaving the white house and the way he's been remembered since his death. >> i like to write about ronald reagan because i grew up in the 1980's. but, i also write about the facts. i don't make things that. i don't believe that -- make things that. succeeded inave repositioning people thinking about ronald reagan said that it was -- the picture that emerges is of a very serious, deep thinking, considerate, solicitous man. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on q&a. republican presidential candidate lindsey graham held a town hall meeting in platz

doubt, new hampshire. he was accompanied by his colleagues. they discuss topics including the syrian civil war and the fight against isis, north korea, the national debt, and lowering health care costs. new hampshire traditionally holds the first in the nation presidential primary which will be held on february 9. this is an hour and 15 minutes. thank you for coming out this close to christmas. >> thank you for being here. >> hello everybody. good to see you. merry christmas to you. hello. good to see. have you done all your shopping at go i have even bought the first gift. how are you doing, go army.

i spent more time in the library running for president than i ever did in school. >> good morning all. >> good morning and welcome to the public library. it is my sincere pleasure to welcome to dissing which senators. i would like to welcome and introduce senator john mccain. [applause] sen. mccain: thank you for that long and elaborate introduction. [laughter] sen. mccain: i once heard a story about henry clay, where -- henry kissinger, a man who needs no introduction and he said, yes, but he enjoys it. [laughter] thank you for your hospitality.

obviously, it is an incredible pleasure to be in new hampshire, my second state, where i have been so fortunate to have so many friends. it is always very nostalgic, especially as we get closer to the most important primary of our nation. one of the things that is so wonderful is that the people of new hampshire take their participation and each persons' vote with the utmost seriousness. many of my predecessors in arizona have run for president. not all of them has exceeded. none of them have become president. other than that it's ok.

a guy in new hampshire said to another guy, what do you think about mo udall for president? and it was i do not know, i have only met him twice. [laughter] another of my favorite stories is he walked into a barbershop, said i am morris udall from arizona and i am running for president of the united states. and the barber said "yeah, we were just laughing about that this morning." [laughter] so i want to thank all of you. just for a few minutes, i am privileged to serve as chairman of the armed services committee. i promise you the world has never been in more crises and threats than at any time since the end of world war ii. the events in san bernardino certainly authenticated that. and we do not have a leader who leads. it is a leader who continues to want to withdraw from the world

stage. a leader who refuses to acknowledge that these are radical islamic terrorists. even refuses to acknowledge that. my friends, we will suffer another attack on the united states of america if we do not change what we are doing. i regret deeply to tell you that. i can also tell you that this guy and i predicted what has happened. as we have watched america failed to lead. a president who thinks if you withdraw from wars that wars end. when the united states withdraws, bad things happen. this guy served 33 years in the united states air force reserve. that is good news. the bad news is, he was a lawyer. [laughter] you know the dfe