president kennedy voted against me and the judge appointed by president eisenhower voted for me. [laughter] we appealed that to the united states supreme court and i went to the court to hear the argument, and i was sitting in the court just behind the bar with the lawyers in front of me and i was sitting next to my lawyer's partner in the attorney general of georgia was making the argument that georgia had a right to throw me out because i have said things that were treasonous and seditious. i think it was judge white who said to him, is this all you have? [laughter] the aid you have come all way up here and this is all you have? so i said, we are winning, aren't we? and he said yes you are and yes we did. we won 9-0 and i was seated the following year. [applause]

>> what do you feel about the current supreme court? julian bond: they are awful. they are not all awful but the majority is awful. i can't quote this exactly so i hope you'll understand. you read the decision in the almart case. justice scalia writes that business is always hire the very best people. [laughter] there is no reason they would not hire the very best people. therefore the argument the other people are making is nonsense. if you have that kind of reasoning, how can you expect anything but garbage to come out? and garbage came out of him this time and in other decisions they made. it is a bad court. warren olney: they are going to be there for a long time. julian bond: yes they are,

they are, unless someone intervenes. [laughter] warren olney: you are not talking about the student nonviolent coordinating committee? julian bond: no, we are gone. warren olney: what happened to the student nonviolent coordinating committee? it became a different organization after you found it and nonviolence was ultimately not really its principle organizing concept. ñlñlñxñxñlñl julian bond: it is wrong to say i cofounded it. there were three or five people. it continued for a number of years and it began to internally question the wisdom of nonviolence. and some members began carrying weapons. people were shooting at us and we wanted to shoot back at them.

the situation seemed more and more direin the south where we were fighting it and we were fighting it in some of the rough and tumble places in the south. it seemed normal to have a weapon for self-defense. it is the american way. it may not be the american way we like, but it is the american way. i left before this period really blossomed but it seems to be perfectly rational for my colleagues to say if somebody is going to at me i want to be able to shoot back at them. warren olney: people want to have the right to defend themselves in their homes. there is more and more opposition to gun control laws. is that a good thing? julian bond: no, it is not a good thing. it is not a good thing. t is a good thing to say i can have a weapon in my home and until i moved to washington i

had a weapon the my home. i had a big shotgun. i had threats on my life. i was not going to have my family unprotected. i wanted them to be able to be protected if i got the opportunity. when i moved to washington where these things never happen -- i couldn't take my gun with me so i left it at home. left it in atlanta. warren olney: talk about those days in atlanta, the early days of the student nonviolent coordinating committee. the kind of courage that it took to sit in at lunch counters, to do some of the other things that were at the time regarded as so threatening to the majority of the society. julian bond: i am not sure if it took a tremendous amount of courage to sit at the lunch counter. the chances of some harm being done to you were not slight but ot sure.

i sat in first in 1960, i led a group of students from the atlanta university center to ity hall in atlanta. city hall in atlanta had a cafeteria in the basement and i led them to the cafeteria and they had black women dishing food and you could see the women looking at us with a mixture of fear and admiration. fear because they knew that the police were coming and that was frightening and admiration because they have seen this in other parts of the south and they were happy that it was happening in atlanta. there was a white woman that said that it is for city employees. and i said you have a sign out front saying that everybody is welcome. she said we do not mean it. [laughter] julian bond: i said we will stand here until you do.

and she called the police and the police came and arrested us and took us to jail and separated us by sex. i found myself in a large bullpen, almost as big as half of this room with the other men who had been arrested for heaven knows what. i didn't want to ask them why are you here, my good men? they patted us on the back and aid way to go, good for you. because of the other arrests that had happened in atlanta that day, they decided to choose one person from each arrest site and i was chosen and i found myself in the courtroom standing between two men and i found out that they were my lawyers, men i had never seen before. there was back and forth between the judge and my lawyers which i did not understand and the judge said how do you plead? i was nervous about the question

ecause on the one hand the police had asked me to move and i refused to move so i thought i was guilty of something. on the other hand i did not think that he had the right to ask me. i did not know what the right answer was. so i turned to my lawyer on my left who was the senior of the two. he was a heroic figure who spent his 60 or 70 years defending black people in small towns in georgia where they could not spend the night, just a wonderful, wonderful guy, and he was asleep. he was like this. [laughter] julian bond: i looked at my right where the younger of the two men was, he was the protege, and you said to me, not guilty, you fool. [laughter]

i had the wit to drop those last two words, or i would not be sitting here now. [laughter] warren olney: were you segregated? julian bond: yes, not in the cell. warren olney: you took a course from dr. martin luther king. julian bond: one of us said morehouse college earlier and i heard a ripple in the crowd because you can always tell a morehouse man. what is that? yeah, ok. yes. [laughter] julian bond: i took a course that was taught by dr. king and it was the only course that dr. king ever taught. he co-taught it at morehouse college. his alma mater. it was co-taught with the man who taught him philosophy when he was a morehouse student. i am proud of this because there were eight people in the class, two women from spelman college and six from morehouse.

we are the only eight people in the world who can honestly say we were students of martin luther king. because it was the only other time he ever talked. there are other people in los angeles who will say that they were a student of martin luther king. but unless they went to morehouse college or spelman college, unless they took this class, they are not telling the truth. if you hear them say it, you should call them on it. [laughter] julian bond: he co-taught this philosophy class with a man named samuel williams. i guess reverend williams knew more philosophy than dr. king was, this was his business. dr. king was a philosophy student but only a student. but i remember one day, king was reading, was answering a question about somebody, plato or aristotle or somebody, and he was looking at the textbook. the other professor would read

from the textbook and we would follow around. -- along. king would recite from the textbook. "plato says." and we would follow along. it was amazing. he had not a total recall, but he had wonderful recall, wonderful memory, could remember so much. this was a great experience. warren olney: he must not have een much older than you were. julian bond: you would have been in his 30's and i would have been 23. [laughter] warren olney: close enough. what do you think was the contribution of martin luther king to the united states?

in this message of christian love and redemption, it struck a cord with southerners. he was able in that way to engage these people, even against their will in the movement for civil rights. some willingly, but some

hesitantly. and that was his gift. onderful gift for oratory. and this wonderful way of putting things into words that made it palatable for people for whom it could not be palatable if said in some other way. warren olney: what did you learn in the course? julian bond: i cannot remember a thing. [laughter] julian bond: one of my classmates is the reverend amos brown who has a big church in san francisco. i have asked him what he remembers from the class and amos told me he could not remember anything either so i do not feel badly about it. [laughter] warren olney: but you were there? julian bond: i was there. i have the class roll so i can prove it. i got a copy from amos. warren olney: do you have other heroes that are still alive? julian bond: dr. king would be a hero. i generally tend to focus on heroes that are not alive, because i think the live ones disappoint you. [laughter] julian bond: when i was in the legislature -- they do this in the los angeles council and the california state legislature -- they are always maiming highways after somebody and i was dead set against naming things against people who were alive. you should let them be dead for 10 or 20 years until this

happens, but i could never win an argument of this kind. but at any rate, i cannot remember the point i was trying to make here. warren olney: the question was about heroes -- julian bond: two w heroes in particular. w.e.b. dubois. i have a photo of myself and my father and my sister. frazier. three men dressed in academic regalia and my sister. am 3 and my sister is 4 and standing in front of w.e.b. dubois and the accompanying certificate dedicating us to a ife of scholarship and devices -- and my sister to a life of producing scholars. [laughter] julian bond: signed by all three men.

it is a very precious thing to have. the other would be frederick douglass. i am a great fan of frederick douglass. [applause] julian bond: i'm always hoping that somebody will invite me to give a fourth of july speech because if they did i would recite his fourth of july speech. "what the american slave is your fourth of july? the day that reveals more than any day of the year of the constant injustice to which he is constant victim. to him, your celebration is a sham. your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless, a thin veil to cover crimes that would disgrace a nation of savages. go where you may. search where you will. go through all the crowned heads of europe, and you will never find -- i can't remember the last of it but it is wonderful. look it up. it is on the internet. it is one of the masterpieces of americanoratory. if you think dr. king gave some wonderful speeches, read this frederick douglass speech.

it is a wonderful, wonderful speech. warren olney: you recently said in a speech that you do not like gay marriage, do not get gay married. [laughter] julian bond: at the naacp of afternoon for two hours we have the third meeting of a task force that i set up three years ago on gl bt issues. don lemon, the cnn newscaster, who has just come out, was the moderator. wanda sykes, who all of you know and love, was a panelist. and several other people were panelists. and i think we are the only civil rights organization to have done this although there is no reason why the others could not or should not. it just struck me that black americans tend to be extremely conservative about these kinds of issues.

and some of it i think is a biblically based ignorance and it can only be ignorance because leviticus says thou shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. they say well, i believe that. that is a prohibition against homosexuality. but leviticus also says thou shall not wear clothes of a different cloth. if you go to look at the minister's clothes they will be the silk shirt, the wool jacket and cotton pants. shouldn't that man be burned in hell? [laughter] anyway, so, you know, it just strikes me that if your bible tells you not o let people, same-sex couples marry in church, then do not let them get married in your church. they will find another, decent church that will allow them to marry, or they will go to city hall. [applause]

warren olney: you boycotted the funeral -- if that is the right term, you did not go to the uneral of coretta scott king because it was held that a church that did not accept gays. you said it was because she would have objected to that. did you take any heat for hat? julian bond: no, not a lot of heat. mrs. king was a strong supporter for gay-rights and same-sex marriage. she traveled around the country going to places where she could find an audience to talk about this. the idea that she would be buried in this church pastor by reverend eddie long was abhorrent to me. she was my next-door neighbor when i lived in atlanta but i could not go to her funeral at that church so i did not go.

i did not get any flack from hat. nobody about whom i care said anything about it. warren olney: you think that that antipathy towards gay people is changing? julian bond: i know it is changing. it is not changing fast enough but i know it is changing. and this is hard for somebody who is straight to say. if more black people would come out. if you had in black churches a coming out day and you've got people to stand up because there is often a time where you can stand up and say something and you would say r.i.m gary and you know me, i have been here for -- you know me and i am gay, i have been here for 20 years, and i am going to be here next week and i want you to know that and look forward to seeing me.

it is hard for me to say that because it is nothing i have to do but i think if more gay people would do that, it would ease the situation a great, great deal. >> as you have often heard me say this isn't about me, it's about the people, it's about

the institution. >> today on c-span a white house reception for the kennedy center honorees. donald trump campaigns in south carolina, then marco rubio campaigns in iowa. followed by "washington journal" as we look back on the top news stories of 2015.

>> each year kennedy center honors are given to americans for their lifetime contributions to cult dur and the arts. this year's recipients are carol king, george lucas, rita rano, and actress sicily tyson. this is 20 minutes. readout. this is 20 minutes -- entertainer sicily tyson, and conductor seiji ozawa. it is about 20 minutes.

>> ladies and gentlemen, the 2015 kennedy center honorees. carole king. [applause] >> george lucas. [applause] >> rita morena. [applause]

>> seiji ozawa. [applause] >> cicely tyson. [applause] [laughter]

[applause] ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states and mrs. michelle obama. ♪ [applause] president obama: thank you. please, everybody have a seat. have a seat. welcome to the white house. this is a good-looking group. president kennedy once said, there is a connection.

it is hard to explain logically, but easy to feel, between achievement in public life and progress in the arts. i believe you was right. our achievements as a country and coulter go hand-in-hand. the oldest of the 2015 kennedy center honorees was born over 90 years ago. you will not be able to tell, but when we look back at the last century, at all the challenges we faced, what we see as a time of extraordinary progress. one world war and another. we endured one depression and prevented another. newlittle we created medicine, technology, and change the world for the better. we welcomed new generations of

immigrants that made the country stronger. we worked together and marched together. to open up new doors of opportunity for women, african-americans, latinos, lgbt americans americans with , disabilities. achievements that made all of us more free. tonight, we honor five artists who helped tell the story of the first american century through .usic, theater, and film by doing so, helped to shape us, helped inspire it. to fortify our best instincts about ourselves. yes. [baby crying] that includes your grandpa. about 80 years ago, a ship

bringing a young girl. [applause] president obama: from puerto rico. [applause] president obama: came into new york city went by the statue of , liberty. oh my goodness, she thought. a lady runs this country. [laughter] she was not yet known by the stage name of rita morena. to be a that she wanted star. at age 9 she debuted as a dancer. at 13, she set foot in a broadway theater for the first time in her life as a member of the cast. at 30, she became the first latina to win an academy award for her unforgettable performance as anita in west side story.

yes. it was good. after more than seven decades on stage on screen, she is one of a handful of artists to win an emmy, a grammy, and an oscar. and a tony. [applause] president obama: but being a pioneer is never easy. for years she was pigeonholed in what she called the house ethnic. she said that she played all parts with the same accent because nobody seemed to care. and when she pushed back against hollywood typecasting, she refused to sell herself short. as a woman who won the tony for best supporting actress, she reminded everybody that i am a leading lady, i am not supporting actress. [laughter] and she was right. she was the leading lady of that show, and she is still a leading lady of her era, a trailblazer with courage to forge new paths. eight decades since she first

laid eyes on the statue of liberty, she continues to personify its promise. here in america, no matter what you look like, where you come from, what your last name is -- you can make it if you try. [applause] president obama: as a teenager in tokyo, an i aspiring concert pianist defied his mother's orders and joined a rugby match. i'm not sure that was a good idea. looking at you. [laughter] i do not know much about rugby, but -- he broke two fingers and that put an end to his piano playing career.

fortunately for the rest of us, it opened up the door as a career as a conductor. shell and my mother-in-law with like me to point out that defying juan's mother does not usually work out well. there are exceptions. in 1960 when he was 25 years old, he arrived at logan airport with only a few words of english. his work as a conductor spoke volumes. a few weeks later, the new york times pronounced him a name to remember. he went on to become an assistant conductor at the new york philharmonic and then led the toronto and san francisco symphonies all by the time he was 35. it makes you feel a little bit underachieved. his conducting was sensitive and intense, drawing the essence of every note. with his bob haircut and

turtleneck, he almost looked like a beetle. then in 1973, he found his musical home at the boston symphony orchestra, which he led for 29 years. when he was not cheering on his beloved red sox and patriots, he withransfixing audiences passionate performances conducted entirely from memory using his whole body, elbows, fingers, knees and hair. he has bridged east and west with classical music. in his words, e-cig is easier to understand than language. rightn be understood away. it is like the sunset, which is beautiful wherever you watch it. [applause] president obama: as a child in harlem, cicely tyson sold

shopping bags to help her family make ends meet. after high school, she found work as a secretary. until one day she s stood up and announced that i am sure that god did not put me on the face of this earth to bang on a typewriter for the rest of my life. [applause] president obama: she was already displaying what you would call a flair for the dramatic. and like all great actors, she never just played characters, she becomes one. i am looking inside myself, she explained. inside of me is where this character is coming from. it took character for her to get where she is today. as a black woman, she was not offered many roles that her talent commanded. that's only steeled her resolve. once, i made a

conscious decision that i cannot afford the luxury of just being an actress, i had important things to say and i would say them through my work. she has been saying important things for nearly 60 years, from the autobiography of jane pittman to sounder, to the trip , to the battlefield. and even now, eight shows a week, she walks onto a broadway james are all jones hand after hand in games of rummy. at 90 years old she is still , delivering remarkable, heart performances night after night, after night, just like god intended and she sure looks good doing it every night. [applause] president obama: at age 15, a

young woman named carol kline formed a group with her friends. it was called the co-signs. a little bit of math. they did great with the hard to reach trigonometry demographic. [laughter] around the same time, she talked to a dj and asked the best way to get in touch with the record companies. he told her a secret, look them up in a phonebook. so she made some calls the landed a contract and took on the stage name of carole king. it turned out to be a perfect choice. today, in the world of american music, she is royalty. by the time she was 30, she turned out hits like, up in the

-- of all the roof for the drifters. one fine day for the chiffons. the locomotion. and, of course, you make me feel like a natural woman. i think i just became the first president to ever say that. [laughter] [applause] president obama: it sounded better when aretha said it. finally, in the 1970's she found the perfect voice for her songs, her own. at one point her solo album, tapesty which by the way was one , of the first i bought, was the highest selling album of any genre in history. it stayed on the charts for six

years. full of songs you could not get out of your head. songs about home, friendship, and better ability. -- and vulnerability. songs about being human. that is what makes carole so special, whether winter or spring, or summer or fall, whether she is fighting with passion for our environment, she is an honest unvarnished voice. a friend who tells you that you are beautiful, as beautiful as you feel. [applause] president obama: george lucas recently shared one of his regrets. he told a reporter i never got the experience that everybody got to have, and never got to see star wars.

george, let me tell you, it was really good. that movie was awesome. [laughter] might wise jedi master put it, changed nearly everything, george lucas has. george was at the vanguard of new hollywood, blending shiners and combining timeless themes with cutting technology. without him, movies would not look as good or sound as good. might still fly around the screen with strings attached. the effects were only part of what makes george special. he created a mythology so census theand a 2001 fourth largest religion in the united kingdom was jedi. [laughter]

president obama: think about how many children have been raised in part by george lucas. they give out how many thought that if a kid from the moisture farm can go from bull's-eye rats in his t-16 to saving the galaxy, maybe i can be something special, too. how many arguments were about the structural flaws in the death star. how many philosophers argued if shot first? how many bookish teenagers took anace in the fact that indiana jones.s they might make a brand-new star wars movie soon. it is low key and not getting a lot of promotion. it is remarkable that nearly 40 years after the first star destroyer crawled across the

screen, we are assessed with george's vision of a galaxy far, far away. we will be raising children on his stories for a long time. [applause] rita morena, sicily tyson, carole king, they were each board was something special to offer their country and the world. they enriched our lives with their live's work. the understanding they have brought to us over the years, we want to thank them. we are proud to celebrate them as our 2015 kennedy center honorees. [applause]

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mr. trump: so, so incredible. we have had, no matter where we go -- it is a movement, folks. this is a movement. no matter where we go, it is amazing. we go to dallas, oklahoma, all over. we went to iowa -- packed. every place, new hampshire -- packed. every place we go to it is like this. great, great people. mr. trump: and they actually had to tell over 3000 people go home, we will come back, we will do another one. would you like to leave and we will let them come in? >> no! we've been a little bit we had to respond to hillary. no. ame out with that -- he's e out she wrote -- demonstrated a pen chant for sexism. can you believe it? me. nobody respects women more than donald trump. that i can tell you.

i didn't start it. id no choice. i had to mention her husband's situation. that is now the biggest story on television by a factor of 10. we have to do it. you can't let people push you around. you can't let people tell lies. you can't do it. it is interesting. one of the polls came out from cnbc and they said that if it is trump against hillary in the election, it will be the greatest voter turnout in the history of this country. i can see that. i can see it. i concur. they said all of these people that are going to come in new, they never vote, they don't care. they are going to vote for trump. they are so fed up with the system. this corrupt, horrible system. they are fed up with it. they are fed up with those guys

back there, the media, they are the worst. mr. trump: they are fed up with the media. they are not all bad, but there is so much dishonesty in the media. i like to call it out. one of the things that has been amazing to me and it is so beautiful to watch -- the level of genius in the public. they get it, they really get it. they want to marginalize us, do all of this, they want to make everybody look like oh gee, the level of genius -- they fully understand, they know they are crooked, dishonest. otherwise, who gets worse publicity than me? mr. trump: and yet i see it: 42%. you are talking about 15-16 people. started with 17 people. i would be happy with 42% if we had three. not thrilled. i would like to be over that

50% mark, but we are doing really well. but the debates, ok? i love you too, darling. i do, i love you. you know what? the rooms, no matter where, stadiums, big ballrooms -- it is amazing. there is love in the room. the other night i said, a friend of mine who was very successful, who i would love having negotiate against china -- not these hacks that we have. i have guys. carl icahn endorsed me. i have great business people that want to be involved. we are the best. we don't use them. we use political hacks, we use special interest people that don't care about the country, they care about their deals. this is going to change so fast. last year, $500 billion trade deficit with china. think about it. you know what $500 billion is?

you do $100 bills, you would fill the room to the ceiling. $500 billion deficit with china. what are we? yeah, we certainly -- let's not blame us -- our leaders are stupid. and/or they have deals. what has happened is all of this money is being given to hem by special interests, by all of these people, including lobbyists, and these lobbyists make our leaders do -- our leaders, can you believe our leaders? they make the leaders of our country do things that they don't even want to do. because they have given them tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars. i look at this guy jeb bush. he spent $59 million on his campaign and he is down in the grave.

he is nowhere. think of it. it has got to be much more than that. it was $59 million a while ago. every time i turn on and add, -- an ad, it is about trump. it is not that bad. he is a low-energy person, let's face it. we don't need low-energy, we need lots of energy. he spent $59 million. i spent nothing. nothing. mr. trump: i'm going to be spending. i'm going to spend a lot of money because i don't want to take chances. i love getting up -- and for the last couple of months -- i have been leading from practically the time i announced -- i'm going to go up or that, i love polls, i love polls. if they turn negative, i don't like them. mr. trump: if they turn

negative, i will be talking about them. i get criticized all the time, what are you always talking about the polls for? one of these guys at 2% said, "he always talks about his polls." i wouldn't talk about it either if i was at 2%. mr. trump: i swear. i love to tell the story where i have spent nothing and bush has spent $59 million. much higher than that. since then. you can't or not the television without these commercials. and fox, every two minutes it is a commercial one trump. it is false advertising. i killed him in the debate. according to reuters, according to everybody, drudge -- he was an amazing guy, matt drudge -- great guy. drudge, 46%. 46%, you have 15 people. a couple of dropped out. time magazine, 49%. think of it. slate, 51%.

u.s. news & world report, 69% said i won the debate. mr. trump: pbs, public broadcasting system, 69% said it is amazing. we have "washington times" 62%. cbs, 59%. fox las vegas, 62%. then they go back home after the debate. how did i do? ooking good is very important, right? sometimes, it is not as much like what you say is how did you look. i looked good, didn't sound too good, but that is ok. mr. trump: i go home and i watch and the pundits will say -- they can't totally kill me because we know it is happening -- well, mr. trump was ok tonight. i'm on every single online poll and i won. bush does an ad.

he was talking about something and then i killed him. by the way, i met 69% and he is at 1%. he came in last. i shouldn't even talk about him. it bothers me when i see a guy spending $60 million on ads against me, a lot of it. i say, why is he doing this? he should go home. ust relax. mr. trump: honestly, he should go home and relax. it does. why is this guy spending all this money? now he is spending it against a couple of other guys who were also very weak. he made a statement and after that, his spin people said he was great. he took on trump, he took on trump. he made a statement that was

written by his pollster. he said, "mr. trump, why don't you this." i gave him an answer. i said, jeff, i'm at 42% and you are a 2%. it is a simple answer. you started off here, right next to me, and then you were there, then you were there, but the next time, you are going to e off the stage. mr. trump: then that was it. i responded. the estimate me the question. the question was fine. professionally written. i give them an answer, i blew him away. everyone says trump won the debate. that is it. the ad is him asking the question and i'm standing there like this. in one of them, i'm just about ready to open my mouth. it is almost for us advertising -- false advertising, isn't it? hillary is a disaster. mr. trump: she is controlled by her money. so is jed periods -- jeb.

so is everybody. i'm the only one self-funding my campaign area mr. trump: one of the things that makes me happy. i heard one of my commentators mentioned, i've been watching it for 50 years and i've never seen anything like trump. i'm special. you're special. i like you. i'm special. isn't that nice? every once in a while, somebody says something that hits you. where are you? who said that? wow. so nice. that is a nice one. every once in a while, there is a statement that is either nice or brutal. i think low-energy was a brutal statement. low-energy can be applied to hillary. i just elect to use the same thing twice on one of my enemies. i consider them enemies. we view this as war. don't we view this as war?

mr. trump: i hate to give it up. we are going to help your daughter. we are going to help the country, as well as your daughter. we are in a situation where we have incompetent leadership, our trade deals are killing us, our military is not prepared. general lordy on oh said o -- ordeono said that we are less prepared than at any time since the second world war. we should be very prepared. he world hates us. she has done a terrible job as secretary of state. think of it. putin comes out and says that donald trump is brilliant, oing an amazing job, leading the pack. that's nice. she and my opponents -- wouldn't it be nice if we could get along with the world? wouldn't it be? wouldn't it be nice?

mr. trump: they want me to refute his statement. how dare you say i'm brilliant. mr. trump: who's going to do that? if he said it about anyone of them, they would have been happy. we have to get along. the world has blown up around barack obama. i don't know if you saw his recent release. they were talking about the department of state, the state department, and they said very strongly -- the things that they have done. they could not find it. what have they done that is good? they said bringing peace to syria. did you see that? mr. trump: instead of saying they made a mistake, they made a mistake, they are trying to justify it. we meant we are working on it. can you believe it? the world is blowing up. the migration from syria. they say one of their key things for the year is bringing peace to syria and the whole

world suffers. it is the level of stupidity that is incredible. i used to use the word incompetent. now i just call them stupid. i went to an ivy league school. i'm very highly educated. i know words, i have the best words, but there is no better word than stupid. right? mr. trump: there is none. there is no word like that. we are going to turn things round. as you saw it, with hillary, she has been hitting me really hard with the women card. really hard. i had to say, ok, that's enough, that's enough. we did a strong number. she is not going to win. i love the concept, love, love, love having a woman president -- it cannot be her. she is horrible. she's horrible. you know who does not like -- we got a banca -- ivanka -- i

will tell you who doesn't like hillary -- women. women don't like hillary. mr. trump: i see it all the ime. mr. trump said this and that and this and that. she is so theatrical. i should not do it. i just have to turn off the television. she gives me a headache. i think last night i gave her a big headache. i can imagine. i can imagine those discussions. you have to hit back hard. you cannot let them push you around. today, she never even mentioned by name. in the debate, i was mentioned nine times. all of them. i was mentioned nine times. none of the other candidates were mentioned. then she came out with the sexism, which is so nonsense,

but she is playing the card. i hit her back and i talked about her husband and the abuse of women and the tremendous abuse. it is tremendous. i talked about that. today, the television is going crazy. she gets up and makes a speech and does not even mention anything about me. i wonder why. i wonder why. mr. trump: remember this. t is really important. a poll just came out where we are tied. another one came out, fox, where we are leading by four or five points against or individually. i have not even focused on her yet. look at the people i focused on. i don't want to reallyknock them. of those people, that are all gone, they are all people that attacked me. wouldn't it be nice if our country could have that same thing? you attack and they are gone. mr. trump: we could do it verbally, that is even better. who wants to use our military?

we are going to build the strongest, the best, the most powerful military ever. ever. ver. mr. trump: ever. we are going to take care of our vets. we are going to take care of our vets. mr. trump: they are being treated horribly. we are going to build the strongest, most powerful military ever. let me just tell you a little secret. the cheapest thing we can do -- i don't think we are going to have to use it. they talk about my tone. i remember when jeb and hillary talked about my tone. they are chopping off christians heads in syria and other places and they want me to have a nice tone. isn't life wonderful, ok? we've got to be tough. we've got to be smart. we've got to have heart. we've got to take care of people.

we've got to fix our health care program. this obamacare is a disaster. you people know. mr. trump: obamacare is a total catastrophe. it's going to be repealed and replaced. it will die in 2017 anyway. i don't know if you have heard what is happening, but it's so bad. all the people that they didn't think were signing up are signing up. the other people that are really paying for it are not signing up. your rates are going up 25%, 35%, 45%. your deductibles are so high, you are never going to be able to use it. so obamacare is a disaster. we are going to repeal it, we are going to replace it. there are so many great things we can do on health care. mr. trump: and it will cost you much less money, and it will be great. you are using programs you will never use. you are paying for it. you will never ever use them. we will get that straightened out. we are going to straighten out a lot of things. we are going to straighten out common core.

it's going to be dead. mr. trump: when i look at parents, i see local parents in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina. i went to a school and i saw the parents. they love their children. they want educated children. they don't care about money, they love their children. it is local. they get together and they do wonderful programs. they are smart people. as opposed to getting it done by bureaucrats who are getting big, fat checks in washington. we have such talent in this country and we don't use it. so, obamacare, dead. common core, gone. we are going to get rid of it. department of education, we are going to get rid of it. we are bringing education to a local level.

one thing on education. so, in the world, we are ranked number 28. there are third world countries that are ranked better than us in education and many other things. and yet, per pupil, we are number one, by far. there is nobody close. number two is not even close. we spend more money per pupil than any country in the world and we are ranked number 28. which is way down at the bottom, essentially. can you imagine we are ranked number 28 and we are number one? that's what i do like saying about my campaign, i've spent less money than anybody else and i have the best result. i'm number one by a lot and i spent no money. i spent no ads. took a little radio ad in iowa. but i did not do that, i think the station is so lovely, if you want to know the truth. but i spent a essentially no money, and then you have all these other guys spending vast -- why will he put a guy like jeb and some of the others? i see rubio on the ads all day long. you know, the black background. he should have put something like that behind him. the flag, right?

i like him, i think he is a nice guy. these ads with the backdrop -- it is just somber. think of it. i spent no money and i'm number one. others spent -- they will have spent hundreds of millions of dollars and they are not even in the race. that's what we need for our country. what? "i've got 15,000," i don't know what he means by that. are you a protester? no. ok, he likes trump. he's not a protester. i love you. mr. trump: don't worry about it. the only time the camera's focus on the crowd is when we have a protester. look at this ballroom, packed.

i always have the biggest crowds. i go home and my wife said, were there many people? i watched you on television tonight. i said, i had 20,000 people. she said, they didn't show it. they have it right on your face. so i have 20,000 people. i had 20,000 in oklahoma, 35,000 in mobile, alabama. nobody knows. because those cameras, i think they can't move. i think it might be fixed. except every time there is a guy that stands up protesting, they are on drugs or something, they don't even know what the hell they are doing there, all the sudden, the cameras swerve from their perfect shot. and i like it, because it shows the crowd. sometime, i think i will put in ome friendly protesters. mr. trump: it's the only way 'm going to be able to get the

crowd in. so when we started, i talked about trade. i talked about the border. i talked about a lot of things. i started on june 16 in trump tower. the famous escalator. it takes guts to run for president. it's like, i've never done this before. we had the largest debate. we have a largest audience in the history of cable television. then cnn, a couple weeks later, had 23 million. fox had 24 million. the largest audience in the history of cnn. there are cameras on live right now. the largest audience in the history of cnn. if you go back four or eight years, nobody even wanted the debates. i think they were forced to take them for licensing. they drew nothing, but now they are drawing 24 million. now they want to have more. can they go three hours? remember when they had the one go three hours and i said, no, i'm not doing three hours? i could stand up here for 50

hours, but who the hell wants to sit home watching three hours of this stuff? mr. trump, you have 30 seconds, what would you do about isis? oh, great. [laughter] by the way, i hate those questions. you know why? because i want to be unpredictable. i don't want to tell isis what i'm going to do. i hate it. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: remember, i said very strongly -- you have been watching. four years, get the oil, get the oil, get the oil. iran is taking over iraq. we made a deal for iran. done by some of the dumbest people on earth on our side. we gave them everything. we won't even get our prisoners back. and now i ran wants to start negotiating. can you believe it? all we had to do was say we want

our prisoners back. they would've said no. i would have said i want them back, you don't understand me, i want them back. they would have said, no, we won't do that. i would've said bye-bye and left. food i would have doubled up the -- then i would have doubled up the sanctions. and i guarantee you -- [applause] mr. trump: i guarantee you that within 24 hours they would've called back and said, you have got your prisoners, can we talk? i would have never given the $150 billion. i would have never given them the money. they don't have to buy nuclear. they can buy it. why do they have to make it? then they have the self inspections. they don't want us there. i wonder why? so they self inspect. and then they have a 24 day inspection, but the self inspection is the beauty. we think you are making nuclear weapons here. let us go and check, mr. president. no, sir, we are not making nuclear weapons. we would never do a thing like

that. these are people that have deceived us, lied to us, they are terrorists. i used to say it is the worst deal that i have ever seen negotiated. by the way, just to finish, prisoners -- they come back, we get our prisoners. then when i hear the other day that, now this deal is done, now i hear they want to negotiate. they said very strongly, we are going to want a lot for the prisoners. we are going to want a lot. we have already taken off the sanctions. they are already rich as hell. what is going on there? that's why i say, i mean -- some people say it is worse than stupidity, there is something going on that we don't know about, honestly. i'm not saying that. i'm not a conspiracy person. she said, "we are." we are saying it. half the people in this room are saying it.

i'm just hoping they are stupid people, which they are, or there is something going on. because it is inconceivable. did you ever see where some things are so bad that it cannot be -- that nobody can do what they did? right, nobody. so, iran now wants to negotiate separately. that deal is done. now we want to start a new deal. and they want a lot. we want a lot. i want to just shoot the television. you know? because they would have had it . and when they asked carrie and obama, the deal was made, everybody knows it is a horrible , they are so rich now. and many of the other things that you don't even know about. most people don't even know what the agreement says. but i will tell you what, when you look at what we are doing, if we keep going like this, folks, we are not going to have a country left. we are not going to have a country.

we are like a dumping ground for the world. we are a dumping ground. they want to take these migrants -- and i feel terrible about the migration caused by hillary clinton and barack obama. they are the ones that caused it. they go into libya, they knocked the hell out of gaddafi. they backed rebels who end up killing the ambassador and the other young people. the ambassador was riding in a jeep, one of our jeeps, of course, a military jeep, holding the libyan flag, "freedom, freedom, freedom," and he gets killed by the same people. so, we backed people that turned out to be far worse than gaddafi. look what we did in iraq. what the hell do we get? we spent $2 trillion, we have thousands of deaths, and i'm not

even talking other side. you are talking about hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. you have thousands of deaths, we have wounded warriors, who i love. these guys are the toughest -- these are the greatest people. [applause] mr. trump: these are the greatest people. and then what happens? we leave, and we have a president that announces the date of when we are leaving. so, i said, man, if i'm the enemy, i'm just going to go wait for 18 months. he gave a date, we are leaving iraq, we will be gone by such and such a time. i'm just sitting there watching and i'm saying, man, that's really stupid. [laughter] mr. trump: because, believe me, the enemy doesn't want to be killed. you hear so much they want to go with the virgins up wherever they go. they don't you think their wives

-- they don't. they want to live and take care of their families. their families know what's going on. you think their wives don't know what they are planning? you think their kids don't know what daddy is going to do when he is planning to fly into the world trade center? they know exactly what's going on. remember that. frankly, i think they have more love for their family's lives than they do for their own lives. but they still want to live. here is obama. he gives an exact date, so they pull back. everyone says, oh, we are doing so well. why should they fight when they know, in 18 months, they can go in and take the place? so what happens? we have isis taking a lot of oil. i said take the oil. remember, i was opposed because i said we would destabilize. because you had iraq and iran. i said they will fight. they are always fighting, for decades, generations. they fight, that's what they do.

how we ever got involved in this mess is hard to believe. they fight, and they were equal militarily. they go this way, 10 feet. they go this way, 10 feet. then they rest. they start fighting again. good, so the -- then, saddam hussein throws a little gas. everyone goes crazy. back and forth. it's the same. and they were stabilized. and i said, if you go after one or the other, in this case iraq, you're going to destabilize the middle east. and that's exactly what happened. we totally destabilized the middle east. we have no migrations largely largelyve migrations, because of what's happened afterwards. iraq was horrible. it was stupid to go in and we should have never gone in. but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we went out. and we shouldn't have given dates. i would have probably said we would stay forever. and they would have said, oh, man. eventually they would get tired. they would say, this guy is crazy. he's never going to lose. and you make a deal.

when you announce you are leaving in 18 months or whatever the hell he said, they just pull back. as soon as we left, they come in. we have the oil. you know who the biggest that a fishy area of the oil is, right back of -- right? china. always china. i love china. i love mexico. they are leaders. we have no border. we will build a wall. mexico will pay for the wall, by the way. [cheering and applause] we are going to have a border. and people are going to come into our country, but they are going to come in through a legal process, not just walking in like nothing. they are going to come in, but they are going to come through a legal process. so, with iraq, so we give them the date and they take over. we didn't take the oil. for four years, i have been talking about it. then because of paris, they stop bombing the oil. -- start bombing the oil. i didn't just want to bomb the oil, i wanted to take the oil. so, we are bombing. and we are not really bombing it, because they are still selling it. how could they keep selling -- obama does not want to hit them

too hard because he is afraid he is going to pollute the atmosphere. no, this is serious. think of it. he talks about the carbon footprint, and yet he will fly a very old air force one, an old boeing 747, spewing stuff. he's got a problem with the carbon footprint. you can't use hairspray, because hairspray is going to affect the ozone. i'm trying to figure it out. i'm in my room in new york city, and i want to put a little spray -- [laughter] [applause] mr. trump: right? but i hear where they don't want me to use hairspray. they want me to use the pump, because the other one, which i really liked better than going bing, bing, bing, and it comes out in globs. it's stuck in your hair and you say, oh my god, i've got to take

a shower again, my hair is screwed up. i want to use hairspray. they say don't use hairspray, it is bad for the ozone. i do live in a very nice apartment. it is sealed. it is beautiful. i don't think anything gets out. and i'm not supposed to be using hairspray. but think of it, obama is always talking about the global warming -- that global warming is our biggest and most dangerous threat. even if you are a believer in global warming, isis is a big problem. russia is a problem. china is a problem. we've got a lot of problems. by the way, the maniac in north korea is a problem. he actually has nuclear weapons. that's a problem. we got a lot of problems. that's right. we don't win anymore. if i get elected, we are going to win a lot. you are going to win so much -- [applause] mr. trump: we are going to win a lot.

we are going to win so much, you are all going to get sick and tired of winning. you say, oh, no, not again. i'm only kidding. you never get tired of winning, never. but think of it. so, obama is talking about all of this with the global warming. a lot of it is a hoax. it's a moneymaking industry, ok? it's a hoax. a lot of it. look, i want clean air and i want clean water. i want clean, crystal water. and i want clean air. and we can do that. but we don't have to destroy our businesses. and by the way, china isn't abiding by anything. they are buying all of our call. we cannot use coal anymore, essentially. they are buying our coal and using it. when you talk about the planet, it is so big out there, we are here, they are there. it's like they're our next-door neighbor. in terms of the universe. miss universe, by the way, made a great deal when i sold it. oh, did i get rich. [laughter] mr. trump: it was a great deal. they broke my choppers on that. they said, he talks about illegal immigration. we are not going to put him on television. first of all, univision is being

sued like crazy. you wouldn't leave it. nbc, i made a great deal with them. far more than i would have ever gotten if i said i think i'm going to sell it. isn't it amazing this can work out? but i love miss universe. and i love the universe. think of it, china is spewing up all of this stuff. and we are holding back. with china, we signed these agreements where we have to do it now. they have to do it within 30 or 35 years. i don't think they are going to be doing it. it's like japan. if somebody attacks japan, we have to immediately go and start world war iii. if we get attacked, japan doesn't have to help us. somehow, that doesn't sound so fair. does that sound good? i ordered televisions, thousands of televisions per year. i order televisions because i

have a lot of stuff. they are all made in south korea, most other than sony. sony, in all fairness, has lost its way. a lot of -- samsung, all of them. they are all pretty much -- all of them, right? i think just about. but, i order thousands of televisions, they are all from south korea. we have 28,000 people on the border separating south korea from this maniac in north korea. what did we get? nothing. they are making a fortune. it's an economic behemoth. a lot of you don't know we protect germany. germany, mercedes-benz. how many people have a mercedes-benz? we protect germany. it's an economic behemoth. we protect saudi arabia. during the good oil days, they were making $1 billion per day. and we protect them. they pay us peanuts, like nothing. and if we want to buy, move to another location -- well, that's very expensive. they want to charge us rent?

look, we are run by people that are so bad, so out of their league. and i see it on the stage. a lot of them are nice people. i a lot of people think i don't like them. but they don't have business sense. they don't have common sense. they are politicians. they are all talk. they are no action. [applause] folks, when i say we are going to build a wall, most of them say, you can't build a wall. in china, 2000 years ago -- [laughter] mr. trump: they built the great wall of china, which is bigger than any wall we are thinking about. the great wall of china goes 18,000 miles. we have 2000 miles, of which we really only need 1000 miles, because you have a lot of natural barriers that are extremely tough to get across. we have 1000 miles. china has 18,000 miles or 13,000

miles, and we have 1000 miles. we have modern cranes, we have caterpillar tractors. i want to use caterpillar, made in america. [cheering and applause] even my hats, they are made in america. it was not easy to find a guy who could do those hats. i have seen so many knockoffs of the hats. i see them made out of plastic, all sorts of crap. mine are made in america. they don't produce as many as i would like because, frankly -- i mean, it's amazing. those hats are amazing. anyway, but i also knew that as soon as the hats -- we have a website. as soon as the hats came out, i knew the press would be calling. it's true. first hour when the hats were announced, i get a call from "the new york times." mr. trump, where are those hats made? i said, america! [cheering and applause] mr. trump: i knew it.

i knew it. as you know, if i would have said china, i would have been in big, big trouble. but they are being knocked off all over the world. they are like helmets. i see them all. but what are you going to do? here's the story. we have to build a wall. when i talk and i'm up on the stage with these guys, these people, wonderful people, and a very nice woman, carly. she's a nice woman. when i'm up on the stage with them, they think i'm crazy. we're going to build a wall, it's going to be a great wall. this is peanuts compared to the wall i am talking about. i'm talking about, if they ever get up there, they are never come down, because it is too dangerous. you ever see what they do now with these little walls? they build a ramp. wouldn't it be cheaper to knock the wall down? they drive over it with jeeps loaded up with drugs. do you see this? there was a picture in "time magazine." it's a little ramp that goes over. make money.

we get the drugs. think of it. we could build a wall. we get the drugs, they get the cash. not so good, right? we don't like that deal. our politicians don't know. they don't know. so, when i say mexico is going to pay for it. these guys on the stage with me, they are not business people. mexico makes a fortune off the united states. number one, we give them a lot of money. but in addition to that, they are taking our businesses. you are talking about a trade deficit. i tell you what, mexico in a certain way, is a mini version of the new china. mexico is making an absolute fortune, peanuts compared to the cost of the wall. let's say the cost of the wall is $10 billion. i can do a great job with that. i think we will have a lot of money left over. by the way, 20 years ago, they wanted to build a wall. people that are opposed to it now, they wanted to stop and build a wall. you know one of the reasons they did not build the wall? because of the environmental protection agency.

they could not get an environmental impact study approved. can you believe it? the there was a toad or a snake or something in the way. now think of it, and china, in the south china sea there were these these low-level landmasses that were covered by water, but pretty close to the town. china sends in massive excavators and they are building military fortresses in the south china sea. a friend of mine, who is one of the biggest and richest people in china -- they are great people. they are fun. then leaders are too smart -- their leaders are too smart for our people. they won't be too smart when i put my people there. [applause] up, wemp: when they call would like to speak to the donor that is negotiating -- no, the donor now is carl icahn.

great businessman. you have so many people that call. all these businesspeople call. friend of mine. i call them and i say, you are actually doing it. jokingly, i said, how long did it take to get started? did you have to get a new n environmental impact study approved in order to excavate? he looked at me and goes, i hope you are kidding when you say that. they conceived of the idea and they started digging four hours later. go through 25 years of environmental impact, you are going to hurt the snail. you're going to hurt this. they are doing a big thing. they excavated, they are ripping the hell out of that ocean. they are ripping it and they are taking that dirt and they are building their fields. they couldn't do it. just like i said, they could not an environmental impact statement. that's probably not the only reason it did not happen. i heard the costs were too high.

for me, that's easy. i'm doing the washington post office, i'm under budget, i'm headed schedule. look at the campaign. a guy has $59 million and he was -- is down at the bottom. i'm nothing and i'm at the top. it's the same thing. [applause] mr. trump: i actually said -- it's funny. the other day, i got this great review. they said, "trump is a great speaker. the crowd is spellbound. but he has one problem." the problem is he speaks through the applause." and you know why? because i'm so excited, because we have so much potential. it's true. i don't want to wait for your freaking applause. we have so much potential. there are so many things to do. i don't want to wait. i just noticed, i did it again. you were getting ready to give a big applause, because you like that, and i'm speaking. i killed the applause. but he is right. except i'm not a speaker. what i am is a doer.

i get things done. [applause] mr. trump: so, when the people up on the stage with me -- and hillary, hillary doesn't have a clue. you talk about low energy. she has lower energy than jeb bush, which is hard to believe. she does. maybe it's rude, maybe it is not, but it doesn't matter. we have a much bigger problem. we have to save our country. so, if i'm rude, if people think i'm rude -- i'm actually a nice person. i have a big heart. i want to help people. i want to help the migration. i want to do a safe zone in syria. i don't want them coming here. we don't know who these people are. they are undocumented. [applause] mr. trump: we should do a safe zone over there. we should have the gulf states spending. they have to pay. we are protecting them. they wouldn't be there for two minutes if we weren't protecting them. they have to start paying. they are not taking anybody.

how about germany, taking millions? can you believe what she is doing to that country? and she was the person of the year and i wasn't. everybody said trump was the person of the year. [booing] mr. trump: hey, what are you going to do? i think she has made a terrible mistake. we will find out. time will tell. they have tremendous crime problems. but what i like is that in syria, with other people's money, meaning the gulf states and germany and others -- germany is paying a fortune to accept all these people. we do a massive safe zone. eventually, when this whole catastrophe straightens out, which i will probably be able to get it straightened out. when it is straightened out, they could go home to their country, to their area. it is interesting, i have thousands of people that work for me. thousands. i have people that come from far. and they all here legally, don't worry about it. i use e-verify. they go and check.

everybody walking their dog, are you here illegally? they said they found one person out of hundreds and hundreds. i don't believe it. it is possible -- we do have 11 million people in the country. it is probably a much higher number than that. but we have to do something about it, and we are going to. so, i just want to finish by saying this. look, we have a situation that is out of control. our country is a dumping ground for the rest of the world. we are laughed at by the rest of the world. and when i started this journey, and it is a journey, and i do love you people. you are amazing people. and by the way, you are so smart. you know, a lot of times they will say, well, mr. trump's people are blue-collar. i love blue-collar. i'm honored by that. but they are not blue-collar. we have blue-collar, executives, and young people. they say the audience is old. it's not older. the audience is young. the other night in iowa, i told that, and i said we have so many young people, the place erupted. we have an amazing thing happening.

[applause] it is just -- look, that's their way of marginalizing, not even me, they are marginalizing you. it is disgusting. but, when i started this journey -- and that's what it is, a journey, and it's a movement that is taking place -- the movement that is taking place. remember the old days, the silent majority? it's not silent. it's a noisy majority. people are angry. i received a call from one of the biggest reporters, who happens to be a liberal, but that's ok. a guy who is really respected, feel? said, how does it i said, how does one feel? he said, what you have done it has never been done in the history of the united states.

you are number one, and isis is number two. i want to knock them out and make me number one next year. but this reporter, who is a very smart guy, he said what you have done has never been done in the history of this country. newt gingrich was on a television show the other day, he said this is one of the greatest phenomenons i have ever seen in politics. home att 3000 people this venue. can you believe that? more than 3000. it is unbelievable what is happening, beautiful. it is beautiful what is happening, but newt gingrich said he has never said anything -- seen anything like this. but he said to the reporter, it has never been -- the reporter said to me, it has never been done before. what you have done is incredible. even if you don't win, what you have done is incredible. you have totally changed the

landscape of politics. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: no, don't applaud. he said, you have totally changed the landscape of politics. it is for ever going to be different. there has never been anything like your campaign. he was very nice. i said, you don't understand. if i don't win, i will consider this, and i mean this, a total and complete waste of time. i really do. because we are not going to do anything. i mean, i will have headlines and stuff, but if we don't win, it is a total waste of time. somebody else and there will not be able to do what i do. even if you get one of these republicans. the wall, when i say mexico is going to pay, they all laughed,

they think it is funny. they think it is funny, they are laughing. they are making billions and of ours of dollars deficit with mexico. the wall is peanuts, they are going to pay for the wall. that i mention it, and they laugh. the other day, ted cruz, a nice guy, said we are going to build a wall at the southern border. didife is sitting -- where that come from, right? ted is a good guy, but he said on fox, being interviewed, we are going to build a wall at the southern border. he did not say mexico is going to pay, he has not gotten that far yet, but it is going to happen. they are all trying to catch up. when i did this stuff, it was very out there, but now i am the one they aspired to.

but ted is talking, my wife is sitting there and she says, darling, did you hear that? that's what you say! she hasn't heard that from any other candidate. so we are going to build a wall, mexico is going to pay. when i started the journey, it was amazing. i came down, it took courage. i went into the lobby of trump tower, i have never seen -- it looked like the academy awards, the press. we have a lot of press here today. look at all those live cameras. down in theme icalator, we came down and said, we are going to do things, and i mentioned illegal immigration. you would not even be talking about illegal immigration. nobody was talking about it, now it is one of the big subjects. that's why in one of the beautiful polls that came out,

cnn came out with a pole a week ago, 36 percent for trump. second is 16%, third is 14%. but on the economy, they gave me 55%. that's with 16 people at the time. -- i understand, the budget and economy i win hands down. this, on illegal immigration i am almost at 50%. and on isis, likewise almost at 50%. but -- bewant to be protected, they want to feel safe. they need strength, toughness, smarts. i know a lot of tough guys, but they are not smart. they are the easiest. you have to be tough and smart. the world is trying to take advantage of us. what happens, i came out, started.

that first couple of weeks with illegal immigration, mexico, all this stuff, and then kate was killed in san francisco, and jamil was killed in los angeles, jamil shaw, an unbelievable young man, was shot in the head by an illegal immigrant. kate was shot in the back. so many great people. ,nd then you have the economy the jobs that are being lost, and people aren't paying taxes, and all this stuff. and all of a sudden, people are coming over. we have to be progressive in our thinking. progressive, i mean smart. i'm not talking progressive like bernie sanders. this guy wants to raise your taxes to 90%. you will have to move. i love this area, by the way, great golfing area. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: no more golf if bernie sanders. you won't have any golf anymore.

you will be paying in taxes. this guy is a total disaster. i tell you what, hillary clinton said, oh, i would like to run against trump, believe me. chuck todd on "meet the press," his show is dying. he keeps saying, do it, but i've never liked him. i do his show, he gets the highest ratings he has had in years. the numbers were massive. i saved his life. and then he goes, hillary clinton said that she would most like to run against donald trump. they are looking forward to it. --st me, the last person she's already gotten a dose last night, do you agree? she had a tough night looking at the beauty pageant. [laughter] mr. trump: so hillary clinton said -- and here's chuck todd, and here's a nice guy.

she says she doesn't like him. goes, the clinton campaign says they would most like to run against trump, like i am some kind of asap. i called -- some kind of a sap. and explain,huck it is reverse psychology. to runy they want against me. first of all, i am tied with her in the polls. look at all the guys i hit, they are gone or failing badly. .nd they will be gone soon but hillary clinton, think of it. i said, chuck, report it properly. trust me, they don't want to run against trump. the last thing she wants in her whole life. i did this in 15 minutes, what them, because the husband wants to, and she wants to accuse me of things, and the husband is one of the great

abusers of the world, give me a break. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: give me a break. so the last person she wants to run against me -- here's the story. i was talking about trade, the wall, the borders, obamacare, the second amendment will be saved, by the way. [cheering and applause] it will be saved. they are doing everything, they want to get rid of alerts, they are doing everything they can. think of paris, think of los angeles. paris had no guns. they have the toughest gun laws in the world. and france, if you get, the gun, nobody has guns -- if you get, gun,t with a can't w

only bad guys have guns. by the way, their police did a good job, and los angeles police did a phenomenal job. but let's say this guy in front has a lousy hat, he head of hair, but he is a strong looking guy. if they had ae gun on their waist? somebody. him, him, him. so if they were in paris, get over here, boom. these are people that gave a party in honor of their marriage. there is something going on that is wrong. they gave him a party, they worked there. she came on a fiance permit or was nonsense, and she

radicalized. she was probably radicalized by her or was already radicalized. people knew they were already radicalized, and people knew that they had bombs. they didn't want to talk about it. you've got to report these people. we've got a real problem, you've got to report them. no more nonsense. they did not report them, and the only reason they didn't is because they disagree with them so much. -- you the one who was thought it was politically incorrect to report them, give it a break -- give me a break. so i was going to talk about all these things, but after paris and california, and there will be others because they have no changed.s, it totally my poll numbers went up 10 points, amazing. did i do good in the beit? did i doid, did it --

good in the debate? people said, no, you are a tough cookie who will not take this cr ap. [cheering and applause] and now i talk about protection. i've got the greatest guys in the world who are going to do a great job. i always talk about ford building a plant in mexico. not going to happen with me. those deals are no good. plants inosing michigan and building a plant in mexico, how does that help us? in the meantime, in michigan and other places, there are plants closing all over the place. and then they are going to sell cars, trucks, and parts into the united states, no tax, no nothing. i will say you don't have to pay a tax, folks. and to ford, if you don't want

to pay a tax, stay in the united states. it's simple. and two weeks ago, nabisco announced they are going to leave chicago and go to mexico. what's my statement? no more oreos, right? but i don't want this. going to make product and sell it into the united states, not going to happen. trader,way, i am a free but we've got to be smart. we don't get anything. we lose on everything. that iran deal was a disaster. by the way, think of the iran deal for one second. i am very -- this came to me two weeks ago, the iran deal is the worst deal i have seen negotiated. i am wrong. you know what the worst deal is? we gave them iraq. that's even better, think of it. we gave iran-iraq. -- we gave iran iraq. is going to have the

richest oil. you go to iraq, among the richest oil reserves in the world. we gave it to them by decapitating iraq and then leaving. so not only did they make a great deal in terms of the iran iraq.we also gave them iraq for aeen after hundred years. oilow they have the largest reserves in the world. that's even better than the original. whoever is representing iran is doing a hell of a job. if that was a stock, you've got to buy some. deals not going to have like that. it's not going to happen. we are going to become rich again, we are going to become safe again, and we are going to become strong again. [cheering and applause]

>> trump ! trump! trump! mr. trump: and you are going to remember this moment, this is going to be an important moment for all of us. i have to ask you to go out and vote. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: remember, it starts on february 1 with iowa, we go to new hampshire, then south carolina. we have four weeks to go, and that we have three weeks after we start. no matter what is going on in your life, you have to vote, because if you don't it's not going to happen. you can't sit back and say, trump is going to do well. out and vote. i will tell you this, it has been an honor to be here. i love the people here. it has been an honor, but we will make america great again. i promise. thank you.

thank you. [cheering and applause] mr. trump: "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> c-span takes you on the road to the white house. best access to the candidates, at town hall meetings, speeches, rallies and meet and greets. we're taking your comments ond twitter, facebook, and by phone. and always every campaign event we cover is available on our ebsite c-span.org.

>> speaking to campaign supporters in newton, iowa, marco rubio called for a constitutional convention to approve amendments requiring a balanced budget and congressional term limits. he also talked about national security, immigration, and the affordable care act. he is introduced by congressman trey gowdy. i will holds the first in the nation caucuses on federal he first. -- february 1. this is just over one hour. trey gowdy: thank you, senator. this is going to be hard, because they tell us in south carolina, not to talk to people behind the back. if you see me turn around, that is why. i want to thank you for your warm, if that is the right word, and hospitality. this is my first time ever to iowa. 50 years, i have been to a lot

of states. cannot return to some. until the statute of limitations -- this is my first time to iowa. my wife told me to go buy a coat before i came. i did, she asked last night, you are wearing your coat come argue? --, aren't you? i do have one, i didn't wear t. i want to thank you for your courage. i want to encourage you to keep fighting. what i mean by that, in south carolina, every office holder is a republican. there are no democrats i dr. lena -- to fight with in south carolina. iowa is different. it is the quintessential battleground state. they can go either way and 2016. this is not hyperbolic, it may well be that the white house

depends upon what you do in iowa. i want to say thank you for the courage of being a republican in a state where it is not always cool. i want to encourage you to keep working heading into 2016. the second thing i want to do is talk to about 2016. you have an obligation to analyze and investigate candidates for yourself. i did not come from south sterling to tell you to vote for. it is important -- from south carolina to tell you to -- who to vote for. this is an experience we call america. it works with an educated moral, citizenry. you have the responsibility to educate yourself. how in the world can i come here and tell you what you want to do. what i can do is tell you i have done exactly what i am asking you to do. i know what issues are important. i know that i will vote for marco rubio. i want to tell you i.

-- why. national security is one of the most and port things government oes. i am looking for a commander-in-chief, a president that does not view his reign job as filling out march madness basketball brackets or sampling golf courses on the east coast. but really knows his primary function, his number one job is to be the commander in chief and provide for our national security. when you hear micro -- marco rubio taught, and i have been talking to him for years, he is an expert on national security. there is no one running for president that is more knowledgeable, more principled, and has taken the time to educate himself on issues of national security. the most and port things in my life are my wife and children, i am looking for a president that will keep them safe. i include in that border

security, and interior security. i am the author of the toughest interior security bill that you will ever read. because a sovereign nation has the right to determine who gets to come here, and how long you to a, -- get to stay, and what is the background check. it is a privilege to immigrate. you do not have a right to immigrate. sovereign countries have a right to determine who gets to come, and how long you can stay. if you don't stay, we have the right, just like the uncle at christmas time, to say, it is time to go home. if i were not 100% certain that marco rubio is committed and principled on the issues of national security, including border security, interior security, and employment security, i would be in south carolina, not in iowa. trust me when i tell you, i have done my research. i am at peace he is the best

candidate on issues that matter to me. do you carry of -- do you care about fiscal responsibility? do i president who will put us on a path towards fiscal responsibility? he is our guy. i promise you he is a fiscal conservative. i got a copy of his book. paper book -- paperback. the wrapping cost more than a gift. if you doubt he is a fiscal conservative, swap gifts. you will find out he is. he is better at something then i am or ever will be. i heard him in 2010 speak on a message of conservativism in a hopeful, persuasive, aspirational way. i am a former prosecutor. you don't want prosecutors that are aspirational. you would like them to be

persuasive, but i cannot do what he does. president reagan can do it, i can't do it. i know that hope is important. i was in it of that when my wife made me go to a wedding with her this past summer. i shouldn't say she made me. my wife and i went to one. i didn't want to go, but she said, you have to go to your sister's wedding. i went, it was the same verse you here at every wedding, these things remain the greatest, hope and faith and love. it is ok to have faith in this next decade. it could be the greatest american decade. it is ok to have faith that that could be true. it is also ok to be helpful as you are delivering the message of conservativism. you don't have to be angry or upset, you could be

helpful. -- hopeful. if you told me five years ago i would be in iowa getting ready to introduce the son of cuban immigrants, the son of a bartender, the son of a lady who did housekeeping. i would first of all tell you, that is only in america. i would say, are you sure? i have done what i am asking you to do. i have analyzed the candidates. i have picked mine. you need to do the same thing. i hope and i think when you get done hearing him, you will reach the same conclusion. he will can fence you as he has me that he is our best hope -- he will convince u.s. he has me, that he is our best hope. help me welcome marco rubio.

marco rubio: thank you. thank you very much. first of all of me take this opportunity to verify family. they are here -- to embarrass my family. they are here. this is my daughter amanda. this is daniela. she is 13. she is on the news sites. we're so proud to have her with us. this is anthony, who is 10. he is the third oldest. we're so proud. this is dominique. i think one day he might stand on one of the stages. right? >> yes. marco rubio: and of course my wife, jeanette. we met in 1991. i think the first time i saw her she was playing sand volleyball. you there was a cute girl in the bleachers. we met months later. somehow i convinced her to marry me seven years after that. we also have a friend. we have so many good friends that do not get to see snow. we're glad they are here. i want to thank all of you for being here.

thank you. [applause] i want to thank jack, the campaign chairman. he has done a phenomenal job for us from the beginning. has helped us get around the entire state. we're so honored by his help and confidence. i want to thank tray for being here. he is a phenomenal public servant. trey gowdy is trying to make a difference. he is a strong and principled believer in the constitution and the liberties. i am grateful for his testimony about the campaign. i am here today because i want you to caucus for me in iowa. it is the most and port in -- most important privilege we are given in this republic. it is the most important right to be able to choose our leaders. here in iowa, you place such an