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on the scale, including for the department of transportation. >> why do we think that department of transportation should be doing this? and why this is going to be helpful in the concert of interconnected cars? i appreciate you talking with the safety concerns related misconception about the proposal level. we are writing a proposal to make sure everything is needed to support communication between vehicles. at some point in the future, data comes in that shows there is not the technology that can meet the safety potential -- >> i think -- i think tesla is doing it. i think gm has even tinkered with this. i think the cat is out of the bag. >> none of those comments came in. not one person responded back saying this technology shouldn't be mandated. it is not the right technology.
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again, i think we are making rule with an open mind, it is just a proposal, the idea that we will get comments and evaluate where we are. the whole notion of going this step is to take it out of the research where it is been for so long. >> absolutely, i had dear friends in a recent car accident and there was a fatality. the car that hit them -- there was no braking involved. i think the technology tesla is developing, i want to see this as quickly as as possible. my question to you is, is there any barriers that are preventing you from moving faster on deploying this technology? >> no, i think it is just human will and open communication, both between the parties here at
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the table and with government bodies so that confidences are obtained all around. we used the convenient power of our separate agencies, and share information. that is what will solve this problem. >> if we can protect more crashes, a great thing for all of us. my question to you, this is from you having your hat as the new chair of the auto -- have you been given any information and briefed on anything of known attackers targeting specifically vehicles, types of vehicles? is russian organized crime is that creating focus on getting access to vehicles. have you seen that kind of information? >> i am not actively involved in the auto isac myself i can't get that information to you.
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>> ms. barnes, what about you, are you aware of getting access to legal information, where they are looking at getting access to vehicle information? >> at this moment, no. >> one of my concerns is that i did this for a living. we did this on trains and subways. we got to know the threat is. this is why i think this creation of the auto isac is important. if you are not getting the kind of information sharing -- the federal government should be sharing as much information as it possibly can with the private sector to protect themselves and protect consumers. if you are not getting that, let me know. my last point is the office of personnel management had difficulty protecting the records of 23 million people.
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they had the audacity to not even say "my bad" when they sent out the letters that said you were compromised. at least when some of these issues have arised with the auto industry, that i got a letter pretty quickly talking about how you fix it, and there was a responsiveness that i wish the federal government had. i think -- i am always concerned when we put too much faith in federal agencies to protect our information. it is a cooperation. i appreciate that. but this is where we need to work together to make sure entrepreneurship is allowed to grow. with that, i would like to -- >> if i can make a quick recommendation for legislation pending for quite some time.
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it is long overdue, and to be helpful here as well. >> i would like to recognize my colleague from virginia, mr. connolly. >> welcome to the panel. maybe, can you tell us the difference between autonomous and assisted vehicles? >> in common nomenclature, the idea is that an autonomous vehicle doesn't necessarily rely on communication. it is truly not connected to another car or -- or to a driver, correct. assisted by communication or by another -- >> it might also be driverless in that sense? >> yes. >> ok. i represent northern virginia,
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national capital region. the region, as measured by a&m mobility scorecard, now has the nation's worst congestion as measured by these metrics -- 82 hours stuck in traffic every year, 35 gallons of gas wasted idling every year, and at least $1800 in lost time every year. how could these technologies assist a region like this with arguably the worst congestion? >> yes, so first of all, let me backtrack a little bit to the chairman questions about, and let me say on behalf of the industry and gm, private industry hass invested a substantial amount of money greater or equal to the mother
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-- money the government is investing in this technology. we very much view this as, mentoring to the onboard sensor technology that are also being used for many of the safety systems. dsrc has the advantages today of being the only technology we know of that meets all the latency requirements to be able to have these vehicles talk to each other in time to prevent a collision or crash from happening and works in bad weather. those are the advantages we see to dsrc, but if you take all of these collisions, all of these technologies, any time that we can prevent a crash from happening, we get the benefits of all the congestion that happens when you have a crash. >> i concede that, but that is not my question.
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i think we have covered safety and i concede that. you talk about i'm not in control, what if something happens -- well, 94% of current fatalities are due to human error. surely, we can do better than that and we can reduce i think significantly -- >> you are seeing better already with advanced driver assisted systems. >> but how can it work in helping to alleviate and better manage congestion in areas like ours? that was what i was getting at. >> if you take the whole system, certainly as we bring the infrastructure into play, and traversing was become more aware of what cards are flowing in what direction, they can time themselves to optimize the traffic flow. autonomous vehicles, being
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better than controlled by human operators, will be able to follow each other a little bit more closely, in a safe manner, and, therefore, make more efficient use of the roadways of the already have -- instead of having to continually have add lanes to our highway system. >> i want to give mr. loebenstein an opportunity to comments as well. this is the nation's capital, we are not very good at deploying technology currently. in terms of traffic management, not much. i have been involved in local government for a long time. we tried to get it deployed. you mentioned japan, they're light-years years ahead of us in the deployment of technology for managing traffic control. why don't you comment. >> they do have technology deployed already for improving traffic flow. if we look at the traffic technology, traffic information was provided one way to vehicles
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here years ago, now they understand they can communicate back and we know real-time when there is traffic and where there is traffic. i think expanding the communication allows us to then improve routing which improve safety -- it has improvements productivity for businessmen to think about delivering goods and services, and it has the capability of improving emissions as well. >> there was a great youtube video that shows 20 cars put on a race track with individual drivers all given a green light to move at a certain time at a certain speed, and within two or three laps, everything is congested, so human systems are not great as you know. infrastructure is also hard, my comments are mostly within the context of tesla. we are already fielding driver systems, what we refer to as autopilot. it presumes that the driver is there and at the hands are on
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the wheel. in low-speed environments such as congestion, the vehicle can modulate its own position and traffic and keep traffic flowing. it is tempting to think this or technology could be of limited rapidly across the fleet, it is too bad the connectivity doesn't exist across the fleet. but i think you'll see it incremented more quickly over time. >> if i can observe at the end, i think what is hopeful is how rapidly we already are adjusting to new technologies that assist us. we are getting on this and finding out what is the better route because of congestion. i can even look at reports coming from what is causing the congestion. then i can make a judgment whether i want to go on or not. gps has revolutionized -- i have to explain to my young staff what a map was.
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we have become hooked on this already, and it is an efficiency. i'm confident as we advance technology, i think we will adjust. >> i'd like to recognize the chairman of the full committee. mr. chaffitz. >> thank you all for being here, this is one of the most exciting part of our economy. this is somewhere where we can lead the world, and can lead to real jobs on people's lives as long as the federal government doesn't come in and screw it up. we are been prone to do that in the federal government. one of the raging discussions and topics we will have to do in the station in light of the horrific terror attacks in europe and what we have experienced here is a further discussion about encryption. i think one of the big questions before our nation is how much
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privacy will we give up in the name of security? it is a difficult question when these he loved ones on television being killed, it is a difficult thing. on the other hand, i want my neighbors and friends to be a safe and protected as they could be people who are wanted to cause them harm. mr. garfield if you could , address the whole encryption issue, how does it really work? you really can't create a key for just the good guys. it's either encrypt it, or it is not. give me your perspective on that. mr. garfield: thanks for the question, i would start by saying that people that i work with are patriots. so they were sickened by what they saw in paris, as everyone
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else in this room. the context in which we are this -- having this conversation speaks the issue. when we are talking about security and safety, and corruption is an important tool for enabling that. the conversation is not either or, it is how we advanced security with encryption as a tool and make international security is protected. i think that are ways to do that. i think a folly is to think that creating back doors or making keys available to just some people is absolution. because ultimately if you create , vulnerabilities, they will be widely exploited. >> can't you just give it to the guy at the genius bar, and your wife, and call it a day? explain to the person not as familiar with this how this works. mr. garfield: the challenge to the person just giving in to the
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person of the genius bar is the same challenge we are talking about with 90% of traffic accidents. you are entrusting one person who may be vulnerable to being compromised with the security for everyone. so that is the problem with empowering the guy or gal at the genius bar. you are creating a vulnerability that could be widely exploited. >> does anybody else want to address this? >> probably not. >> do you want it to be encrypted? >> it is an issue of philosophy right? none of us has a unique capability. it is a dynamic process. but it is one where i guess you
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vest hope either in the inherent goodness of man or the inherent badness of man. i prefer to vote for the former. i think that it is the minority that are malignant and in a truly open system where innovation is encouraged, where there is sufficient penalties for malignant behavior, you will see a net positive benefit over the course of time. >> thank you, and i think, as members on this panel grapple with this, 99% of our population that does deal with things in a safe and secure way are good, honest, decent people. i think the bigger obligation to -- obligation is to protect them as best we can. certainly, there can be carveouts for law enforcement need to fear probable cause. if you have a terrorist type of activity going on, of course
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there are things, whether geolocation or other types of things, they should be able to tap into. if you are a suspicionless american, someone leading a good, decent, honest life, i think you have an expectation of privacy in this nation. and that will certainly come into play not only with cars, but with the internet of things. this will be one of the big question to be all have to deal with. >> if i could add one more thing, how we approach these issues has to be grounded in something. what they need to be grounded in is our values. part of our values here is that we act consistent with laws. and so there are certainly legal frameworks for gaining access to that information. and we will work with law enforcement to ensure our national security is protected. while at the same time, there is
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a fundamental belief that people's rights will be protected as well. we have figured out how to strike that balance, and will continue to do so. that is partly why we are viewed the way we are around the world. >> and if may i add on to that, and other way in which to ensure growth -- both privacy and security escorted that into the cars. more privacy protected would be enhancing techniques which would minimize or eliminate the need to collect personally identifiable information so that when there is a report of a malicious hack, those that need information are only getting the absolute necessary information about moving the personally identifiable information. it is not important what she was speaking inside the car, where she was going. but that a system has been compromised. >>, thank you, and i do hope
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members are able to look at the geolocation legislation that we have here that you would need a warrant or suspicion certainly to track somebody's geolocation. i do think that is the content of their life. >> do other members have questions? >> i would like to take up a little bit where the chairman left off. ms. barmes, earlier the automakers testified that they are very careful with the information that they collect. reading your written testimony, i'm not sure that you would agree with that. there is a lot of information that is tracked. i haven't turned off geolocation on my phone, so this is my veteran's day map. it shows everywhere i was, i can slide over and it tells me i got into the houston airport and was there for 32 minutes at 4:00 in the morning.
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i had breakfast there. i went home and took a shower, i went to the uss lexington, i welcomed some bicycle riders. i then went to applebee's to greet some veterans. it knows everywhere i was. this is turned on by default in almost every person's phone. i would imagine the cars collected the same information. and unless i am aggressive about turning it off or telling them a -- i don't want it shared with marketing partners i will is in the pop up saying you are near a whataburger, why don't you stop? there is a lot of information that is out there. do you want to comment on that? do we need a better off out on
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opt out onetter this? >> i always advocate for stopping at whataburger, but opt out repeatedly fails consumers. this idea that there is such an information asymmetry that auto manufacturers and third-party services can gobble up all the information. and that the consumer isn't he unaware. when we're looking at the privacy pledge, the consumer doesn't have any type of choice. but choice is not enough for the consumer. that is why we need some kind of standard where the consumer love guaranteed privacy protections. the onus should not be on the consumer to turn off her location information at every single subset. when you look in the cars buy act, there was a provision that would allow an individual to turn off data collection should she choose, but still retain the functionality.
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>> how easy is it -- we can talk about hackers, but let's talk about the government. how easy is it for the government to contact google, or tesla, toyota, and say i want information for x, y, z person. do they need a warrant? is it a letter? what do they need? >> it would depend exactly what type of personal data it is. some of it may be protected under other statutory provisions. but in the absence of full-on protection for all of the types of information that is collected not only by auto manufacturers, but third-party services, that is why there needs to be -- >> it could eventually be subpoenaed by private parties as well. >> easily, yes. insurance companies, marketers, those are some provisions to prevent marketers and getting it
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as well. >> how many requests do they get a year? you look like you have an answer. >> i'm not aware of the number, but we have a long-standing policy any time we get requests we require either a court order or a warrant. >> we have that same policy. we will not give away any customer's private information unless there is due process of law. >> thank you very much. let me ask -- i have another minute or so here. we talk about encryption, and all the technology in the cars and the computers. we look at -- we also have created a system where we are now making it difficult for us to repair our own cars, to modify our own cars. we have killed the industry of
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being able to buy another radio because it is all automated for the gps system. there is recently a case for john deere tractor with a could let them fix it same copyright on the security and the anti- security provisions made it illegal for the to fix it without going to a john deere dealer. we will see the death of the corner garage, whether it is bigger tires to jack up your pickup truck or do things to enhance performance -- >> the example you gave is a great example of regulatory processes working. so every three years the copyright office has to evaluate the dmca to ensure good faith research can be advanced. recently, the copyright office said that as a part of doing
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good-faith research you can do so on a car and get beyond the encryption systems. it is a great example of an agile system working effectively. >> my concern is you never really own your vehicle because there is so much software involved. you may be licensing software that could become a brick that if you tried to modify it or do something else. >> we can't have it always. it allwe cannot have way. -- ways. we can't say we want connected cars, and be secure and safe while the same time saying we want everyone to be able to get into that and be able to stop it while it is moving. >> i think he is saying we want open sourced software so we can see what is coping in and in control. where's the line?
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>> to be clear, i did not necessarily advocate for open source software. i do advocate for an open system of improving software. that is an important differentiator. i would add to the point of the last comment, that there are models that posit people don't even want to own their car anymore. this may no longer be a problem which opens up the possibility that there are others. >> i appreciate your comments on that and yield back. >> and the other questions? in closing, i'm sitting here thinking my wife is a pretty smart lady, and she does all of the computer work at the house, paying bills, everything, on a sunday afternoon she is on the computer. she gets a call for microsoft service center. they ask for some information. she reluctantly kind of gave it to them.
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the next thing we know her computer is locked. it is an extortion attempt. i found out they were pakistanis and i'm a member of congress. we have a whole communications network, with the capitol police and access to the fbi. basically, they told me that you are screwed -- [laughter] and it was extortion. i can see extortion that you can't start your car, this shows what happened with our little home computer. it was interesting, we bought some of the software. she found of the software company that they keep another
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locked protection behind that. and can actually can release the system. but they get you to think we have incredible capability. i was in a general motors car, and the teenager device -- i just spoke at gonzaga high school. it was yesterday. i told all those teenagers what is coming. they were aghast. but the things you can do are unbelievable. and i told the class, the biggest -- i was paying attention to the paris terrorist threat. but those kids get in a car, and that is the biggest cause of death for our teenagers.
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we have gotten deaths from 43,000 to 33,000, a huge percentage of those our kids. the devices i saw were pretty astounding, how you can control that. again, i guess the question more than the comment is private sector has come up with some incredible innovations. you are setting standards and trying to protect the owner and the consumer. you have a good association coming together, trying to bring folks together. i'm anxious to see your report. i guess you cited is to garfield that was -- mr. garfield that was just turned over. the scope of government, like the chairman said, we usually over legislate and overregulate,
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trying to get it right, you want to also protect rights. i hammered on dot because i -- it is now three years ago i said let's see where we are going with this. i tried to set a schedule. which hasn't been adhered to. a bit of frustration in that. it is complicated. they need to work with you. for the most part, they are. we don't want them to come out with standards or requirements or technology -- mandates that are obsolete. by the time we enact them, sometimes they are an overreach. that is a challenge we face. in closing, any quick guidance on how to proceed? i want to hear from the private sector. i know we are going down a certain path.
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but what do think the proper role of government -- the standards, i tried to get a biometric standard after 9/11, that was three times i put in law a biometric standard. i think we may be there. it is 12 years later. they're very difficult to nail down. with changing technology, you have to try this. it is like trying to change the wheels on a vehicle that is moving down the highway at 75 miles per hour. tell me, how you would like to see this unfold? the three guys representing the companies that actually produce vehicles. >> thank you, mr. chairman. with all due respect, our industry can't afford to wait for government. we are not doing that.
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we are investing a substantial amount of resources and energy into innovating with our products and services to make our products safer, and make them more enjoyable. >> once again, i have to nail you down. what is the proper role of government? regulation, law, -- where do we go? >> i think our industry has shown time and again that we can and do work well together. i think the industry needs the freedom to innovate and to do that work. >> who in government would you put -- should we leave it at ntsa or dot? how should it be structured? responsibility from the federal level? >> for the federal level, we
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work well with ntsa, we work well with them and have proven we can do that. i think in this space, obviously the federal trade commission is active in this space. we have begun to work with them as well. we will work with whatever agencies congress decides are the ones that need to be involved in this. >> if i could interject -- >> after i hear from others. i didn't really get a real handle -- we haven't even talked about the ftc. let me hear your take. >> first of all, we appreciate the work that has taken place between the auto industry and ntsa so far. it is a 15-year-long road to get to where we are. we think really good technology that is ready to go. once we get this spectrum
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issue closed, i think we can move forward with that. tsa is a good industry -- agency to partner with. we look to be missed framework and think that it is a good agency for us to partner with. as an industry, to create the same types of best practices and self guiding principles be of already done in terms of the privacy and security. >> at one level, and another level. >> a couple issues of principle, it is all about incentives. no one could be more interested in our own survival, especially as a small, young company than we are. putting the right incentives in place is key. i think that whatever we do, whatever agency it resides in, we need to foster innovation and sharing. but in the proper incentives in place to innovate, and to share.
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an instructive case of how this could proceed was advanced emergency braking. rather than resisting the impulse to regulate, they fostered the development of the technology, then encouraged the deployment of that technology and did so as far as i know without the benefit of any sort of regulatory knowledge. the hazard with standards is that in a long process you move towards lowest common denominator behavior. that is to be encouraged in some cases, but the standard-setting process -- but not wholly appropriate in innovative arenas like this. as to the agencies, i don't have any particular point of view. >> the only thing i would add is one of the real challenges here is that these are crosscutting issues that impact multiple agencies. and one way that congress can certainly help is bringing order to that by making sure there is greater coordination among all the agencies.
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it is not to suggest ntsa cut out, but congress can play a critical role in making sure the ftc, ntsa, and nist and the department of commerce are working with each other to achieve the things we all have in mind. >> well, again, you did a very good job, ms. barnes, giving us your agenda recommendations. thank you on the privacy side. thank you for participating. i look forward to hearing back and seeing some of your plans. what i would like to do is we will leave the record open for 10 days. we may have additional questions, we had a few we didn't even get to. without objection, that is so ordered. again, i'm looking forward to having a report on the other items we requested today.
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again, thank you, each of you, very interesting. probably i will look back 10 years and we made such incredible progress. but we want to do the right thing at this important juncture. and that is bringing out these issues. and where we need to go is important. if there be no further business before the subcommittee, we will adjourn. thank you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016]
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announcer: road to the white house coverage continues in exeter, new hampshire. bill clinton today opening his campaign for hillary clinton with two stops, this event getting underway in exeter, at an exeter town hall. >> good evening. entire claim to fame is i and the husband of jackie -- i am the husband of jackie witherspoon. among the other pleasures of my life is having the pleasure of being a delegate to the democratic national convention the last go round, where i was
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representing the woman who i hope will be the next president of the united states. that drew every to my attention was her laser focus on the state of our health care. i am so glad that not only had she been focusing on that before that election, many years before, but that she continued to keep that oar in the water. when she becomes the next president, she will continue to work on perfecting and strengthening the affordable care act so that it works for more and more people in more and more places. as you know, there are many voices speaking out there in these united states, and there are not a lot of them that make a great deal of sense.
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you will notice that when she speaks she is thoughtful, poised, she is not a sloganeer, she has actually thought things through. when she talks about what our country needs at this moment, you do not hear the vagrant gasps, you do not hear nothingness, but what you hear is a person who recognizes these united states, and let me say there were many people who initially set for themselves, why would you vote for hillary clinton? it just because he was the star of the person we are about to hear in just a few minutes, bill clinton? is that why you would vote for her? only when she became the secretary of state and did a brilliant job did they finally begin to wake up and realize .ere is a rock-solid person i hope that over these next days that you will do everything in
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your power to speak to your friends, to speak to your work associates, to take people to the polls who do not have a ride of their own, so that when we come to november, we will be able to celebrate in highest out, not just because we love hillary, but also because we love the united states of america. and she, if you look very carefully over this whole field, she is without a doubt the strongest, clearest-thinking person among them all. so again -- [applause] please don't just watch television. please talk with people. and bringo vote others with you. before i leave the stage, i want to say i also have the pleasure of knowing the person who is going to be introducing the former president.
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if you are not from this town, you need to know that right across the street, one of the things he does is provide a delightful water street bookstore. [applause] town selects,ur and he is one of our strongest supporters of hitler clinton. thank you so very much for being here. -- of hillary clinton. thank you so much for being here. [applause] ♪ i jumped so high whoa i am never going to look that
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>> wow, you are on your feet. i want to see if we can do an experiment. crowds a huge overflow upstairs. can we hear you, overflow crowd? >> yeah! >> what it event. we heard you. i can for coming out. this is where presidents speak. you for coming, and thank you to president clinton for coming to exeter today to talk to us about the importance of this election. hillary clinton and her staff organizers, supporters, and volunteers have worked tirelessly for the last nine months, but we have a crucial 36 days ahead of us, 36 days. that is just over 400 daylight
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hours left for all of us canvassers knocking on doors. as the campaign enters the final stretch, the state for new hampshire's families could be higher. our country faces complex challenges, like sharing a broad prosperity with all our country's people who work hard to get ahead, like the tremendous increase of drug abuse in our nation and how we are to deal with that, inadequate mental health care for those who need it, and of course, guns falling into the hands of people who should not be allowed to own them. americans need a president who has what it takes to get the job done. as voters in new hampshire watch the republican candidates push an agenda that is out of touch and out of date, they will be asking themselves, who is tough enough to take them on and make a difference for working families, and that is hillary
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clinton. [cheers] president clinton, i was looking at a photo of you and hillary back in your yield loss cool yale law school days. it was that one. you both look so bright and hopeful, like the two of you look today. abouthoto got me thinking half the two -- the path you have taken. you could have followed in the past. pat thaty, the called to each of you was theh path of public service.
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you were each called to address the issues of prosperity, hope, and justice to service in government at both the state and national level. you both chose to put your lives, your fortune, and your second honor at the service of that -- your sacred honor at the service of that thing we call government, and that government nothing lessre or than what we all agree to do together. such a choice that hillary has me or maybe invite better yet, rather than invite, mutuality commands me in this moment to make a similar choice. hillary's campaign, a campaign by and for the most capable, visionary, and experienced candidate in many a year, her campaign against me to pledge my fortune, andge my to pledge my sacred honor. and that is why i have been out
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knocking doors and talking to my neighbors this past june about hillary's extraordinary campaign. [applause] and that is why i will continue to not doors on her until february 9 and then hopefully until the general election in november. once you all join me -- won't you all join me? but no one knows all of this better than her husband. theident clinton knows stakes are higher than ever this election year. he knows that the people of new hampshire want the president who will create shared prosperity so that everyone has a chance a brighter future. and he knows hillary clinton is prepared to do that job. welcome back to
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new hampshire someone who needs no introduction, our 42nd president, bill clinton. applause]d president clinton: thank you. thank you. thank you very much. everybody, sits down. dan, of all, thank you, for that wonderful statement, for your support. thank you, russell, and jackie witherspoon for your service in this community and throughout our country. tom for beingk here for his support for hillary and for being first gentleman of new hampshire. it has a nice ring, don't you think? people, i get nervous.
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people say, hillary wins the election, what do you want to get called? nobody has what you get. i'm superstitious. i want to thank all of the organizers who are here and especially -- for the good work she has done, and i want to thank all of you who came out on this cold night. o by newy to hampshire standerscold. and the people upstairs who gave us an overflow room. [indiscernible] look, every time you have election people say it is important, but if it is a directional election, it is important.
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too often the winner of an election is determined by what .eople decide it is about if youseems to be clear, today, where america is we went through that terrible crash in late 2008, we had come out of it in a sense that the growth number of jobs that were lost have been replaced, we avoided following into a depression, we put in new protections against a financial crash in the future. we have made some real exciting progress in leading the challenge of climate change that leads to more jobs and clean energy. but we still have not gotten the incomes back. we do not have brought-based prosperity again -- br
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oadbased prosperity again, and it is the major challenge facing the next president -- if everybody has a job and has something to look forward to in the morning, it increases the hope in a country. it makes people more secure and disintegrate our community into separate groups of resentment. i see all these movements that those younge all people and black lives rather. i think what they are saying is important. [applause] president clinton: when you see an unarmed young person get 17 andets in one of our cities
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another mentally ill man that should never have had the gun that was in his hand running have 32m the police and bullets fired at him, and then you see the heroic performance of the police officers in the aftermath of the tragedy at san bernardino. you know we have to do something to pull it back together. about all same way the young immigrant dreamers who want to pursue their education here. i feel the same way -- [applause] president clinton: the same way about the progress that south carolina made when they took the after aate flag down speech by republican woman, four minutes long, who was i direct ofcendent of the president
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the confederacy, jefferson davis. she said, if i want to take it down, we should take it down, you know it is the right thing to do. why am i saying this? because to have brought-based prosperity, you have to have inclusive economics and more equal opportunities for people to take advantage of it. and to make it work, you have to have inclusive societies, where butelish our differences, when the chips are down, our common humanity adders more -- matters more. i was proud of hillary for being the first candidate to propose a comprehensive plan to help all those coal make a transition into a new economy. those folks have not been voting for us much lately, and she said you are americans, you
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deserve a chance. when there is discrimination against african-americans or justnics or muslims, because of who they are, i do not like that. but we never can forget that what we have to do is unite the police and the community, unite business and labor, unite this country. that is when things happen, you have inclusive economics and an inclusive society, and in order to do that, have to have more inclusive politics. so the big job in the next presidency is to give us those things, inclusive economics, inclusive societies, inclusive politics, and defend the national security of the country in a way that preserves our values, that gives big, bad things from happening and wages the better we must with billions
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of minds to the social media kind of worldwhat we will live in, a world where ized andget all atomo hunkered down in our bunkers or whether we have our hands outstretched -- that is what i think this election is about. if you decide that you have asked, who is the best person to do that job? >> hillary! president clinton: here is why i think that. i think at first because she has spent a lifetime listening to people, just like she did when she was a senator from new york, or traveling the world when she was secretary of state. and she has a good economic plan. ok we got to cut our greenhouse gas emissions.
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how in the wide world could you create more businesses and good jobs and by changing the way you produce and consume energy and other local resources? it is the greatest opportunity our country has ever had. [applause] president clinton: this is not a pie in the sky deal. and theowa, minnesota, oil capti ofa the country, texas, get 25%l of their baseload electricity from wind, and it is an enormous competitive advantage for them. watt our cost when i was president was 5.8 cents, or 13.9 in new york. our neighbors in the caribbean, the great source of fraternity for us and for them, before the collapse in oil prices, were cent because it
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was all imported, heavys, polluting oil. we need a modern infrastructure. there are too many of our fellow americans who live in rural areas could make more money and generate more customers if they had access to rapid broadband. korea's seesouth averages of 24 times -- averages three to four times ours. people haveke sure opportunities to do this, including the opportunity to use dark a job, build a business. bill, the dodd-frank things to strengthen it so that those institutions who generate
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more money by trading with each other instead of investing in future cannot and we also have to make sure that if the bank wants to make a loan to small business that the cost of that transaction is not so high that they won't make the loan. set of rulesve a for small business that makes sense. i grew up in arkansas and i was governor there. there is a lot of difference between the amount of cash you need to protect against financial speculation that has no impact on the real economy except if it goes bad and crashes. and how much you need to make a decision that a farmer you have known for 25 years whose tractor
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breaks down just before you got to plant the crop needs a loan for a new tractor. with you know someone here in exeter who wants to open a little restaurant or frame shop can get the loan necessary to do that. it is crazy for a bank to say we are not making loans of that size anymore because it costs us too much to make them. we have to have a sense of what makes this economy go. andou want to raise wages reduce income inequality you have got to raise the minimum wage but you also have to create ine jobs and more businesses areas that have a good growth projection. we can do that. her plan will do that. we have to take your the workforce. people in the other party has made somewhat disparaging
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comments about hillary's proposals on things like equal andand paid family leave universal access to childcare. here are the rules. every relatively wealthy country, the richer you get the smaller the family size. that is true across all societies. atmade up for it by being the top of the world in small business formation. werei left office we seventh for women in the workforce even though we didn't have paid family leave. today we are not even in the top 24 women in the workforce.
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when hillary comes out for equal that as anily leave economic strategy. you have to keep young people coming into the workforce. having lost its i can tell you that youth matters. [laughter] it is a large determinant of the future of the country. recognize that in the , evenath of the crash states governed by people who don't favor funding for education have underfunded higher education to keep funding the schools. choice.ike a hobson's you couldn't raise taxes as bad as the economy was. had to take care of the kids
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coming up. the result was that college debt has spiraled. the average debt here in new hampshire is around $30,000 which is far higher. if people are going out into the world with all this debt, they are in jobs with a cannot sustain it. man who has an assistant that he was paying 110,000 a year. after taxes it is about $70,000. the woman's monthly payment on her college loan was $2900 a month. ask yourself if you could live in manhattan on the rest. or brooklyn or the bronx. this is being repeated everywhere. hillary has a plan to deal with
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that. to lower the interest rates and allow people to refinance. work to a system where people get to pay up back as a fixed percentage of their income so they will be swamped by debt. [applause] it is a good program. on the question of building a more united society. there's nothing more important than preserving and continuing to improve this health care law. congress is about to vote again to defund the health care law. we have 90% of our people insured for the first time. [applause] down toward 80%.
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if the 22 states that still haven't taken medicaid would do it, we would be almost to 95%. we had four years of the lowest medical inflation in history. last year we had a little bump. that is because all the people who joined the health exchange by and large were older people and older we are the more health care dollars we consume. 2.4 million more people have entered those health exchanges. they overwhelmingly are younger healthier people. they are going to help us build a system that will hold premiums .own it would be a real mistake to give into the attempts to weaken or water down this health care law.
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we need to continue to strengthen it. [applause] when dan was introducing me and he said what he did about access to guns, i just want to point out that one of the problems with the current law is we don't have good record-keeping for all mental health instances. people whoome peace would've gotten health care if it was available. so the background check law is not always effective.
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85% of gun owners support universal background checks. if they knew more about the flaws in the mental health record-keeping system, you wouldn't have people running down the street los angeles with a gun that he had no more business having than the man of the moment. is biggest problem we have this opium and heroin problem. it is a problem in new hampshire. it fits with the general problems of small town and rural america. has thenow what state highest percentage of its population subject to overdoses? west virginia. all those small towns, where the coal jobs have been going think every single
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day is going to be just like yesterday. a lot of those people are dying of a broken heart. the life expectancy of non-college-educated middle-aged white americans is going down. it is never happen in my lifetime. we have got to do something about this. veryis one area where i am hopeful for bipartisan progress. most people without regard to party understand that this is a public health problem not a law enforcement problem. [applause] in the last four years i have lost three children of three friends of mine who all had the same story.
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one was at home and the other two went out. and their a few beers partner said what you pop this pill that will give you a buzz. it does give you a buzz. but if you fall asleep it kills a part of your brain. the part that tells your body to breeze when you are sleeping. in addition to the people that are addicted we have lots of people dying every year he has they don't understand the basic biochemistry of what is going on. for thed the governor makethat she has done to this drug more available. in our foundation we are trying to get the fda to approve a nasal spray version of it. about $40 a dose. we're trying to get out all over the country. this is a huge problem. knowext president ought to
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the kind of problems to keep americans up at night. she takeses because those listening tours. she had to come up with policies and figure out how to pay for them. that is a very big deal. we have got to figure out how to come back together again. i just want to say this about the fear we all have after paris and san bernardino. it was tragic but couple of days after san bernardino, i picked up the dick york daily news. i was thumbing through it. there was a little article about an immigrant from yemen who came here in 2002. leaving his wife and four children home in yemen. trying for more than 12 years to bring them over here. working at a little quick stop store in new york. two robbers come in with pistols. they tell him to get the cash register open and clean it out
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and give them the money. he opens the cash register grabs says i haved he only had this job over a year and is not my money. he slammed the government's hand. the gun goes off and mrs. in by a few inches. the bullet goes in the counter. thek goodness for him robbers weren't total idiots. they realized they just fired a gun in downtown manhattan in the middle of the day. so they run away. he goes next-door calls the police. he goes back and secures the cash register. the guy who owns the store is over the moon that he did it. .ecause in the afternoon off he went out and took out his prayer rug and gave thanks for his survival and said a prayer
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that may finally his wife and four children right be able to join him. he is far more representative of the muslim community in america than what happened in san bernardino. [applause] [applause] i think her plan on this is really important. .e cannot do this heroin is now cheaper than oxycontin. it is being grown in the sierra poppies areico and being harvested by pre-teens. we have got to do something about this. which brings me to the third thing. we have to have inclusive politics. we have to get this show on the road. i am a progressive but i'm one who likes to get things done. me start with this.
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the next president will make between one and three appointments to the u.s. supreme court. [applause] i can she has proved she knows how to get things done. when she was secretary of state she spearheaded the development of the iran sanctions. she got russia and china to sign off on them. she worked with the president of the muslim brotherhood in egypt to stop a full-scale shooting war between hamas and israel. were public and senators to ratify a treaty that her team developed called the new start treaty which is the only thing that survives our attempts to do better with russia. they are honoring that treaty.
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a is a good thing in dangerous world that we reduce the chances of a nuclear exchange between ourselves and russia. these are important things. senator she was a was on a commission to study the future of the american military. the pentagon yesterday on it. newt gingrich was on the commission. i had occasion to talk to him. to tellout of his way me how good she was. you'll beinate her treated to a lot of things the republicans said before she started running. [applause] [laughter] do knows we have to something about this black money in politics. that weeme court said cannot limit the amount of money people spend on campaigns. i think it was a bad decision but they said it.
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they did not say that we had to let people give money in an undisclosed way and sneak around when they try to change the whole future of politics nationally or in new hampshire. we have to keep working for that. [applause] i want to say one thing about this election. whether youdecide want inclusive economics, inclusive politics. whether you want somebody who actually knows how to defend the country without giving away our values. to build an economy for the struggling, the striving and the successful. what you think that'll be the model. to do it you need a change maker. i will close with this and ask you think about it.
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advance you are entitled to say what else is he going to say, they just celebrated their 40th anniversary. [applause] [laughter] you are entitled to discounted but i do know her. school, it in law was relatively rare for women to be at yale law school. or in law school at all. it is hard to believe now. she could got anywhere. her interest in law school was legal services for poor people. when she got out instead of taking a clerkship or a big firm job she went to work for the children's defense fund. she went to alabama to investigate whether segregated academies were claiming tax exemptions on the grounds that they were just private academies that happened to have no african-americans.
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law and the the school changed the practice. to went to south carolina investigate why so many 14 and 15 euro children all of whom were african-american were in adult jails. not so much of that anymore. everywhere she went she did something good happen. she came to arkansas to be with me she opened the first legal aid clinic we ever had. where the university is. i will never forget, she made me take her to court the day the judge accepted the legal aid proposal. he was a crusty old guy who liked the old system of just appointing lawyers. the guys sitting on the bench. i introduced him. he was polite but stern. she makes her presentation. i don't over and says
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like legal aid very much, and i don't like lady lawyers very the youngologize to people do people use to talk like that [applause] months he changed his position on both. she made something good happen and it is still thriving. governor she came in and said, bill we have all these really poor families that don't have any education and there's kids are starting school so far behind. i found a program from israel. for immigrants who didn't speak hebrew or english. home instruction program for preschool youngers. it gets the parents involved in the whole educational enterprise. i think it would work here. said, don't worry, i just
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talked to the woman who founded it and she's going to be here at about 10 days and she is going to set it up. she had been elected to anything yet. [laughter] the next thing i know, we have a and befoream going you know it it was in 26 states, it was a national organization and today before there was ever childcare standards for preschool, there were these thousands of kids who came from these poor families who got a better start in life in the last 30 years because she made something good happen. wherever she is, whatever she is doing, she just makes things happen. [applause] we had to redo our school standards. the national experts said
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arkansas had the worst schools in america. 1983. office in i put her in charge of this committee calling for greater standards. classes and a lot of other things. more science and math. nine years later i came to new hampshire running for president. that said we had the worst schools in america in 1983, said we had one of the two most improved school systems in the whole country. i used it in speeches here to try to talk you into voting for may but she did that. [laughter] [applause] so then we go to washington. we try to do health care. we offered a bill that people now forget was widely acclaimed
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by the experts and took more pages out of federal law that put in. we just didn't have 60 votes in the senate. up.didn't give we passed the balanced-budget bill she worked with senator kennedy to put the children's health insurance program in it. there are 12 million kids in the program today. it was the largest expansion of health care from the time medicaid and medicare passed until obamacare past. sed. she just did it. she came to me one day. and i thought this is never to happen. she says what i've finally found something we can work with tom delay on. a lot of younger people may not remember tom delay. he was newt gingrich's enforcer in the pre-tea party to party congress. of may.t think much
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i said you've got be kidding. but he was an adoptive parent. with tottempted problem make its enforcer homes. not enough kids moving to adoptive homes. kids aging out of foster care with nowhere to go nothing to do no education bill continuing support. she and tom delay got together and i was one of the hobbyist bill signings i ever did was signing the bill they agreed upon and at the time i left office it had already increased atptions out of foster care 65%. before i even left office. [applause] she had been elected to anything. not been elected to anything. when she started to run in new york, she came home with ideas every day. she got these farmers on long
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island involved in doing things to preserve the farms there with the real estate was pretty high. pretty soon there we several of them in iowa knocking on doors saying i am a republican but she is the only person who ever did anything for us. wine growers in upstate new york to selling their wine and restaurants for the first time. a guy making fishing rods in a little town in upstate new york introduced to e-commerce and quadrupled his business and all his new customers were in norway. it never even occurred to him. she just makes things happen. at youe some place through translator something good will be going on. [laughter] [applause] she left office and came to work in our foundation and all of a sudden we had a project called no ceilings that pointed out all the places where gender
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disparity still existed. another project called too small to fail the let parents know what they could do putting their children whether or not they had any money before they went to school. she just makes things happen. we need to change maker. a change maker. i spent a lot of time when i was president upset seeing about restoring broad-based prosperity. what iy asked me celebrated the 10th anniversary of my library was most proud of. i said i am most proud of broad-based prosperity. jobs thanor 50% more were created when president reagan was in office. tricklethe only time down economics ever looked like it was working. increasedes and
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spending so dramatically the same time. incomes dropped for everybody during the two bush administrations. we had a hundred times as many people move from poverty into the middle class. they work their way there. we can do that again. middle 50%in the more. moreust below the middle than twice as big an increase. at the bottom increase for the 1% what0% 7/10 of president reagan was in office 23% when i was there. [applause] the rest did just fine. forget about that, i am telling you we can do this. no open country better
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position to that the united states for the future. we can do it. but you have to have somebody who makes good things happen. veryn also navigate this uncertain and also perilous world without blowing about blowing our values up but you have to have somebody who knows how to make things happen. in my adult lifetime. there has never been anyone better prepared for the job that awaits the next president. than hillary. never. [applause] she is pretty much still the same girl i fell in love with in law school. she really is. still reallyhe is close friends with her best friend from grade school.
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all these people she went to high school with have come to new hampshire or iowa. arkansas keep coming to new hampshire every time she's on the ballot. their candidates and then there candidates. [laughter] there are records and then there are records. our right family here is how we keep score. our people better off we quit than when he? do children have a brighter future? are things coming together rather than being torn apart? if that is your scorekeeping you have no choice. and i hope you will help her win. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] ♪
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>> five weeks before the new hampshire primary and bill clinton makes his first foray onto the campaign trail for hillary. we would love to hear what you think about hearing from bill clinton on the podium. speaking for hillary clinton. we will be back here tomorrow night for rand paul at the exeter town hall. we welcome your comments at facebook and on twitter.
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let's go to your phone calls. tim: there are three things i want to say. the middle east is a mess. they have to get other countries involved instead of the united states. every time something goes down over there they blame us. everybody has to play a part. we are not supposed to be the police of the world. other countries have to step up. was everybody mad about? bill clinton had a surplus. george bush turned it into a deficit. when obama came in it was a mess. i hope this is not about race. about our president.
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it is really weird. everybody is so mad. that is just sad. >> thank you tim. former president clinton speaking mainly about economic issues. we hear next from martin on the republican line. martin: i would make three comments. clinton, i followed him before he was even elected in arkansas. hillary clinton is from park ridge illinois not arkansas. i would love every american to get the book sellout which is written by david shippers the attorney who was a democrat hired by henry hyde who is now
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deceased. it pointsd the book, , after heill clinton was impeached, not one senator or congressman was willing to walk down the corridor of the capital to see the room they had that showed the real facts on bill clinton. i have been to his museum. there is not even an eight and a comment other than all his saxophones and ridiculous things. this man is basically a dangerous man who still is influencing american voters. with that. i am a retired navy captain, 30 years. >> melinda on our democrats
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line. melinda: i am very excited. very grateful to be able to make some comments. i like to thank president clinton to the surplus that he left us. when president bush took office. i like to thank mrs. clinton for all her hard work as secretary of state. i wouldlike to say that like to see glass-steagall put back in place. elizabeth warren is correct about that. proud to support mrs. clintonbut also chelsea who has been running the clinton foundation so successfully. we think long and hard about bernie sanders who is very progressive.
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with the clintons you get three presidents for the price of one. that includes chelsea. she works so tirelessly for the foundation. >> this was his first time on the campaign trail. we are asking for your thoughts on what you heard from bill clinton. linda says hillary is not even strong enough to campaign for herself.
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a more says it is time for truck to rise. trump to rise. your comments are welcome. rebecca on the independent line. rebecca: the surplus the clinton had was due to the congress that pushed to make all the right reforms and regulations. so that there could be an economic boom. it is really because of congress and not clinton. i do give credit to clinton for eventually going along with that. the credit really goes to the republican congress.
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both clintons have a lot of dirty laundry. you have to look at what kind of leader they are. i don't think that bill clinton talking about his wife is such a great recommendation. >> larry on the republican line. larry: i would like to thank hillary for the wonderful job she did in benghazi. foruld like to thank bill all that hot air. thank you clintons. izy on the independent line:
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want to thank c-span for the road to the white house. march 1 is the big primary here in the south. that thence told me more angry and bitter the republicans get is because they don't have a message. with bill clinton there was more than 22 million jobs created. you gingrich shut down the government. he cried about sitting in the back of the plane. when they went to the funeral and israel. people have food on the table. believe is going to be
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the republicans because all they can do is go back and attack president clinton. i am waiting for the other spouses to come out and campaign for their candidates. >> is there a campaign on the ground where you are in texas? suzy: texas have a became a republican state because the democrats didn't field of candidates. it was taken over by republicans. it is horrible. the republicans in texas do not know how to govern.
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>> donald trump addressed some of the criticisms of his comments about hillary clinton in an appearance in south carolina. trump: for the last week she has been hitting the really hard with the women card. i had to say ok that's enough. she is not going to win. of having aoncept woman president.
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it can't be her. she is horrible. like,ow who does not let's have a banca. you know who does not like hillary? women. [applause] always so theatrical. mr. trump said this and that. i just have to turn off the television. she gives me a headache. last night i gave her a big headache. i can imagine. i can imagine those discussions. you have to hit back hard. you can't let them push you around. she gave a speech and she never even mentioned my name. at their debate i was mentioned nine times. none of the other republican candidates were mentioned. then she came out with the sexism card which is such nonsense.
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to hit her back. i talked about her husband and the abuse of women it is tremendous abuse. i talked about that. today the television is going crazy. she makes a speech and doesn't even mention made. i wonder why. we will try to show you the donald trump campaign ad that came out today. kathy on the independent line: the obamacare is a joke. i was collected social security and working part time because i could live on social security. i do not qualify for obamacare was a wanted to pay $300 a month. i quit my job to qualify for obamacare. then i got married a couple of
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months later and i lost it. my gross income for two people. now they want us to pay over $500 a month we can afford it. we get minimum wage. we are older. we can afford the health care. we had no insurance. you have to be dirt poor and not working on welfare or you're going to pay out the nose to get health care. my daughter has insurance and it was $52 for a bottle of cough medicine. that was with obamacare. bill clinton mentioned obamacare and the republican effort to repeal it. they will pass that reconciliation bill that will defund planned parenthood and repeal a good bulk of the affordable care act of 2010. the white house has issued a veto threat against it.
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the house rules committee will meet on that tomorrow afternoon and we will cover it. jacob: i was calling in support of the bill. when bill clinton was saying rang true to a lot of us. family women in my enjoyed what she has to bring to politics. trumpmments from donald does not ring true appeared. >> donald trump is leading the polls in new hampshire on the republican side. here's a look at the democratic side. bernie sanders up around four percentage points. one of the reasons bill clinton
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is in new hampshire is to bolster hillary in that state. donald trump leading on the gop side. donald trump's first campaign ad. donald trump: i'm donald trump and i cruise this message. donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism. he is calling for a temporary shutdown on muslims entering the united states. he will cut the head off of isis. he will take their oil. he will stop illegal immigration i building a wall on our southern border that mexico will pay for. donald trump: we will make america great again. >> his first television ad.
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you can read more on that at political fact.com. ish on the independent line: was not a voter for his presidential campaigns. in 2008 election was for barack obama. i am leaning towards bernie sanders. as an independent. i liked ao say that lot of the things bill clinton said. i especially liked in comparison to what donald trump said, his the vast majority of muslims especially those living in america are just
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regular people like you and me. and bigotry is perpetuated by donald trump's campaign in particular. christina on the republican line: i want to say watching wifeclinton trumpeting his and women's values is the biggest joke in the world. how couldes his wife sully our oval office with the disgusting behavior that he did? do makesthe clintons me feel physically able.
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i do not believe hillary should ever be considered as a presidential candidate. bennie on the democrat line: i am 100% disabled because of the war in vietnam. why men are not willing to sit down at the peace table instead of studying war. they don't even want to get along here. everything i hear is about them fighting each other. we have to take a good long look at that. if we're going to fight like little children among themselves we need to look somewhere else for president. god bless you. >> thank you for all your calls. we will show you bill clinton's comments again at 9:15 p.m.
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eastern time tonight. tomorrow night we will hear from rand paul speaking here in exeter new hampshire. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00. we heard from bill clinton. we show you a few of the comments of donald trump. here's that entire event from south carolina
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not gonna take it" by plays] sister trump: no matter where we amazing. we go to dallas, we go to oklahoma. went to iowa and act every place. it is amazing. great great people. [applause] had to tell over 3000 people go home and we will come back and do another one.
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maybe next time, i think this is the largest room. record because every inch of the room is taken by people. they are standing, not sitting. we love setting records. we want the country to set records right? [applause] i do this i love to do it. i talk about our success because that is what it's all about. i think we are going to do fantastically well in iowa. i am looking to win everything. we want to run the table. that sends a signal. we have been a little bit, we had to respond to hillary. [booo] she said he has demonstrated a penchant for sexism.
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can you believe that? nobody respects women more than donald trump. [applause] i had no choice. i didn't start it. i did have to mention her husband and his situation. that is now the biggest story on television by a factor of 10. we have to do it. people push you around. you can't let people tell lies. out frome polls came cnbc and it said if is trump against hillary, it will be the greatest voter turnout in the history of this country. i can see that. [applause] they said all these people that are going to come and know who never voted. because they don't care.
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they are going to vote for trump . they are so fed up with this corrupt horrible system. they are fed up with those guys back there, the media. they are the worst. [booooo] they are fed up with the media. there is so much dishonesty in the media and i like to call it out. it is that so beautiful to watch. the level of genius in the public, they get it. the media wants to marginalize us. the people understand. they know the media is crooked and dishonest. who gets worse publicity than me? and yet i see a poll where i am at 42%.
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we started with 17 people. i would be happy with 42% if we had three. i would like to be over that 50 mark. but i think we're doing really well. the debates, i love you too darling. i love everybody. is amazing. there is love in the room. asaid to a friend of mine successful guy that i would love to have negotiating against china, not these hacks that we have. carl icahn endorsed me a great businessman. we are going to use everybody. we have the best of the world. we use political hacks and we use special interest people who really don't care about the country.
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this is going to change so fast. 500 million dollars in trade deficit with china. is?don't 500 billion hundred dollar bills would fill the room to the ceiling. a $500 billion trade deficit with china. our leaders are stupid. or they have deals. all of this money is being given to special interests. lobbyists. these lobbyists make our leaders do what they want them to do. they had given them all this
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money. this guy jeb bush, he spent $59 million on his campaign and he is down in the grave. he is nowhere. much more than that. it was $59 million a while ago. anytime i turn on the tv i see an ad attacking trump. he is a low-energy person. need low-energy. we need lots of energy. he spent $59 million. i spent nothing. i'm going to be spending. because i don't want to take any chances. i love getting up and for the last few months i have been leading from practically the
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time i enter the race. i love polls. if they turn negative i don't like them. then i will talk about them. these guys who is a 2% and i'm at 42% and he says he was talks about his poll numbers. i would either if i had 2%. i love to tell the story. i have spent nothing. bush has spent $59 million. but actually much higher than that. turn on the television without these commercials on fox every two minutes attacking trump. it is false advertising. i killed them in the debate. tried to his amazing guy. drudge is an amazing guy.
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i have 46% and those 15 people. time magazine, 49%. u.s. news & world report, 69% said i won the debate. [applause] mr. trump: pbs, public broadcasting system, 69% said trump won. it is amazing. we have "washington times" at 62%. cbs, 59%. fox, las vegas, 62%. then i go back home after the debate. how did i do? looking good is very important, right? sometimes, it is not as much like what you say, it is how did you look. i looked good, didn't sound too good, but that is ok. [laughter] mr. trump: i go home and i watch and the pundits will say -- they can't totallki