of course. we have it in ohio. guess what they do in ohio. they're in the senate, then they go to the house, then they go back to the senate. then they go back to the house, okay. [laughter] our big problem is gerrymandering, where they draw districts to provide safe republican and democrat districts and the members become more extreme because they don't want to have a primary and that pushes people farther apart. can you follow what i mean by that? you always worry about a primary. nobody can get to the right or left of me. that's not good. sir, we're going to need to look at campaign finance reform, all these things. but let me get to the bottom line about this, and john sununu said it well and i'm not sure you heard him on this. you probably did but let me reemphasize it. it's all about character. you know, do you think you can legislate morality? i was at timberland today, you know, got a great jacket, by the way. [laughter] but i was at timberland today, and i said, you have an antitheft policy here at timberland. but your policy isn't going to stop people really from stealing. people are not going to steal because they have ethics. and the problem with congress is when people get in, they want to stay. and so they're afraid to take a risk at making you angry so they

get thrown out, and there's a term when you're a congressman. you know what it is? is there life after congress? because when you get to be in congress, you're a big shot. am i right, kitty? you get to go to all the events. you're the front seat, you get to meet the president. i mean, seriously, that's the way it works, and people like that. anybody would. but what we have to remember is when we get elected to public office, we are not there for a lifetime job and you have to take risks and you have to remember why you're there, because if you serve for years and you didn't accomplish anything, what was the point? so sir, let me tell you what i've done, and john will attest to this. sometimes i used to have people who i couldn't --didn't want to vote on my budgets. because when you vote on a budget, it means you're taking something from somebody and giving it to somebody else. one guy had eight or nine kids and he lived in california. and he said, john, don't make me

vote on this budget. so i went to him. i was standing an elevator. i said what do you got, eight kids? nine. you got nine kids. you come from california to washington, you're not with your family. why are you here? and he stopped for a minute and looked at me and he said, okay, i'll vote on the budget. hear what i'm saying. leaders get people to perform at a higher level than where they would normally perform. you look at belichick. you and i could probably suit up for the patriots this weekend and we'd win a game because he'd probably make us play better. i'm serious. you think about all the great leaders we've ever studied. think about reagan. think about harry truman, teddy roosevelt. they were able to have that --winston churchill. never ever ever ever ever give in. have your children study with

what he did in great britain. he kept london from just dying. it's because of leadership. it wasn't because of a law. i'm not telling you we don't need laws, and i'm for the term limits and i'm for these other changes, but at the end, we have to have leaders that get people to perform at a higher level and have guts and realize their legacy lies in fixing america. and wherever you are. so throughout my career, and it's why i'm doing this again, i can't explain it to you. maybe the lord has given me some special little blessing to get people to be part of a team to get results, and that's not arrogance. i'm humbled by the fact that i could be in a leadership position and see things happen, but you have to work with people. you have to encourage people. that's what you have to do.

and so the congress itself, it has to start fixing problems, because the world looks at america and says what the heck is wrong with you? you can't seem to do anything. it's all about government shut-downs. it's all about yelling and screaming. it's all bipartisanship. and i love my country. can we fix this? if i'm president, you can count on it. i promise you, you can count on it. [applause] but i'm coming back here, if i'm president, and i'm going to tell you why. because you're going to speak with a loud voice to that congress, and you're going to say get it done. that's what reagan did to get his work through. he used the people, and the people have to be part of the solution. yes, sir? audience: you mentioned fixing america. and i'm really concerned as i'm sure you are, about money and politics. now, a lot of people look at marco rubio as potentially getting the nominee, and that concerns me because he is

getting the biggest contributions from the koch brothers, and i'm wondering if you think that his contributions from the koch brothers and big oil affect his energy policies? gov. kasich: well, i can't judge the way he thinks. he can only judge the way he thinks. for me, you can give me money, and thank you very much, but you ain't going to get squat for it, other than the chance to give me an opinion, okay. that's just the way it works. but let me just say to you that, again, it's back to character, isn't it? but here's the beauty of new hampshire. because i don't have all the money and i don't have all the billionaires, and i don't have all that. but i'm like a little engine that just keeps chugging along, and i'm rising up here. and here's the beauty of new hampshire. you've got that 1.2 million. do you know how much i love these town hall meetings? you know why i love them? because you get to see who i am. i put my best out here. if it doesn't work, i'm fine.

i mean, no, i won't be fine. [laughter] here's what i mean by that. you don't care whether i'm famous. you don't care whether i have money. none of that --does that matter to you? i don't think it means a whip. it means that you judge somebody, and this is where people get launched. new hampshire could be renamed cape canaveral. you launch people into the consciousness of america. so if you're worried about that, i've got a good candidate for you, me, okay, just so you know. [laughter] ma'am, right back here. audience: my name is martha lafleur, i'm a retired educator and do advocacy work for vip new hampshire. i want to thank you for taking a stand on social security. we all know it's an important issue. i realize as a governor you had to work very hard to get your initiatives through the state house. once you're in the white house,

how will you get your plan through congress? and finally, if you make a priority list, where would social security be for the future? where would you put that? gov. kasich: first of all, the reason why i'm close to aarp in ohio is for this reason, our medicaid program, which serves the poor, the elderly, went from a growth rate of 10% in my second budget to 2.5% and not person was taken off the rolls and not one benefit was cut. did you hear what i just said? it's unbelievable, okay. not because i was so good but because i had a good team. let me tell you one of the biggest things i did. the nursing home industry, which is a good industry, but they got too much of what they wanted in the legislature. they were some of the highest reimbursements, and they basically said if you were elderly, you are going to end up in a nursing home and not be able to stay in your own home.

they knew i was going to change that. they spent money to defeat me and then to derail my program. to make a long story short, ohio has dramatically changed the mix, because i beat the nursing home industry. now, if you're a senior citizen and you want to stay in your home or you and your husband want to stay in your own home and you're able, you can get the help to stay in your home and stay there rather than being put in a nursing home, okay. [applause] and it's been a dramatic change in the state of ohio, and it's really, really cool. social security has to be at the top of the list for this reason. if we don't fix social security , in the year starting around 2030, social security benefits will have to be cut by a third. that's not acceptable, because

there's a lot of people that can't have that happening. so what are we going to have to do? well, what you're really going to have to do is the wealthier seniors --and i don't want to throw a number --i could throw a number out. i'm not sure this number sticks, but $100,000 in retirement income, you will get less in social security so all the other seniors down the line will get their full benefit, and that's what we're going to have to do, and that is a very hard thing to do, to get done, but we can get it done, because we're not going to shaft the seniors in this country. so i do have to work through a there's a lot of people that can't have that happening. so what are we going to have to do? well, what you're really going to have to do is the wealthier seniors --and i don't want to throw a number --i could throw legislature and get this done, but i also had to work through bill clinton, who was the president of the united states, when i fought to balance the budget. so you have to get people to understand what the problem is. you've got to be open to some of their suggestions, and then you get it done, and that's exactly --so social security has to be at the top of the list, because we can't wait. this has to be put into play, because the demographics of the number of people retiring is beginning to outnumber the people who are working and the numbers don't work so we have to fix it. way in the back, yes, ma'am? audience: my name is nora rousseau, and i'm very frustrated over what happened with social security, and my understanding, if i'm correct, is that congress took money from the social security funds for

other programs or for whatever reason. i'm just wondering --well, first of all, i would like to have congress take a pay cut and put that money back for seniors. i get frustrated because i can't imagine -- gov. kasich: i'll let the congressman know your feelings. [laughter] audience: please. that's why i'm speaking now. gov. kasich: that's good. audience: also --now i've lost my train of thought. gov. kasich: i'm sorry. i interrupted. on social security, why did they borrow. audience: there are many people today who are in their 60s who for whatever reason, whether it be knee replacement, they're not well enough to work until they're 70 years old to be able to retire. i just don't get it why older people have to pay for what congress did years ago over the years and work, you know --wait

to retire when they need to retire sooner. so that's my question. gov. kasich: okay, let me explain to you. by the way, for the four years in which we balanced the budget when i was chairman, we didn't borrow from social security, which was really terrific. and by the way, that debt clock stopped going up. i am told it stopped going up. in fact, it went down because we paid off a half a trillion dollars of the national debt, which is really good. audience: went up $30 million every five minutes. gov. kasich: right now? right now. so let me say to you, ma'am, here's the situation. the social security money came in because of social security taxes. there was more money coming in than went out to pay benefits. the government borrowed the money to run the government and put ious in the treasury that have to be redeemed. right now, my understanding is some of them are absolutely being redeemed. in other words, it's not like that doesn't get paid back. the problem we have now is the number of people who are retiring, particularly with the baby boomers, is beginning to out-number the people who work. the numbers don't add up.

so that's why there has to be a fundamental change in the program. but it's not like that money doesn't get paid back. it was an iou, and it was the government using it to fund education, agriculture, whatever it is. but it has to be paid back. and those bonds will be redeemed, because you can't just say they don't matter or they don't count. it doesn't work that way. in terms of the retirement age going higher and higher and higher, and there's a point at which it gets to be too high, and, of course, you can have early retirement, or you could retire with disability. audience: [indiscernible] gov. kasich: yeah, well, you're not ready to be retired on social security. audience: [indiscernible] gov. kasich: okay.

and you've done very well, okay. and what i'm saying to you is, it really is all about the numbers, but here's the tragedy about this. in 1998, not like i'm the know it all here, okay, i just had good people. i had offered a social security program that would have held the seniors harmless, the baby boomers would have started at a slightly lower level, and the young people would have started --they would have less, but they were going to be given 2% in a private account that would grow with the growth of the economy. that plan never was voted on. it's like going to the doctor. the doctor says you have a problem, and then you show up 16 years later and say okay, doc, what are we going to do now? so i did my job, but that doesn't --there's no solace in that, because we have a problem now, and we've got to fix it, and we've got to make sure that those who don't have those resources --and by the way, that retirement-age scale is up over time, but the idea that we're going to move it up to 75 or 80, you know, we have to be very cognizant of the fact of what you just said.

audience: i think 70 is too much. gov. kasich: i don't think we're going to see it come back the other way though. i just don't think it's in the cards. but i'd like to get the program fixed. yes, sir, right here. audience: i have a question regarding what's been going on in this country for 40-odd years. we have lost our industrial base and, consequently, good-paying jobs. how do we get some of those jobs back in some of the factories running and making things here instead of bringing them from china, japan, and all over the place? gov. kasich: you mean in terms of them leaving? well, there's good news. jobs are actually beginning to onshore. i have a big investment, potentially a $4.5 billion investment from thailand, at least $100 million invested in ohio.

i have people who invested in the steel company in ohio since i've been in, and we have whirlpool bringing their jobs back, and we have a chinese company that is creating 1500 jobs making windshields in dayton, ohio, and those jobs are going into a factory that was abandoned by an auto company. this is why people in ohio were optimistic because we're seeing it happen. why is that happening? well, it's happening because we have low energy costs and our transportation costs from asia into here are high. so we're now starting to get a competitive advantage. the other thing that's happening is we can use technology to create advanced manufacturing where you use --i went to an auto plant. it's a thing that provides parts to the auto companies. i went in there. they were all blue collar workers. they don't ever touch a piece of metal. everything is done with computers.

they all learn how to do it, and these are just regular folks. and i said, well, how's the pay? pay is up. how's the jobs? the jobs are up. so it is very possible using advanced manufacturing techniques to be able to --to have high productivity and to be able to have some of those jobs coming back. but what we have to do, folks, is we have to be also be training our young people for the jobs that exist today. some of them will come back and some of them are not going to come back. and so what do we do about that? well, we need to have an education system that's beginning to train people for jobs that exist, not train people in a vacuum, okay, so we know what jobs are available. and i keep mentioning my state. i'm the seventh largest state in the country. we're not a bucket shop. my budget is $63 billion.

it's like a miniture of the federal government. what we do there could be done in the country. what we're doing now is introducing young people to occupations and now we're beginning to tell them, these are the jobs that are available. this is what it takes to get one, and this is what it pays. i just read yesterday that in the state of ohio, we have 240,000 job openings. i guarantee you, you have thousands and thousands of job openings right here in new hampshire. but we don't have the people who have been trained to take those jobs. so why aren't we looking at what the jobs are that are available and training people for those jobs instead of training them for something that doesn't exist? does that make sense to you? [laughter] yeah, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it? so let's do it. let's do it. let me give you another one. guidance counselors in high school, why don't they do guidance counseling? why do they spend their time monitoring the lunchroom or rolling the basketball out? [laughter] you know about that.

this is like a church service tonight, amen. [laughter] amen. but the fact of the matter is, these are not that hard to do, but you have to be creative. i'm going to give you another idea. and this is something that should be done all over the country. this one is a little bit farther out there. let's take the medical business, i'm talking about profession. you've got all these people, they've got to do billing, you've got people --phlebotomists that take blood. you've got all these jobs out there, and they play pretty -- pay pretty well. so i'm asking the medical people to put together a curriculum online which you can take. say you work at mcdonald's and you're stuck. you take the curriculum. if you pass it, you're

guaranteed an interview for one of those jobs, and you have the skills and you've been trained to take that job. now, that's called everybody working together. these are the kinds of things that we have to think about in america today and our education system --and by the way, i want to move all the education programs back to new hampshire, i mean, with the money. right now, we have 104 education programs. i'd like to break it into four buckets and send it back to new hampshire, ohio, nebraska, and let us run our education programs. but we need a flexible -- [applause] how old are you, young man? audience: 16. gov. kasich: what do you want to be when you grow up? audience: biomedical engineer. [laughter] gov. kasich: he said he wanted to be a biomedical engineer. he's 16 years old. put 'er there, kid. [applause] listen, you're 16. you get out, you go to college, then you do four more years. i should be running for re-election. you'll be rich. can i get a campaign contribution from you? [laughter]

but here's the thing. so he wants to be a biomedical engineer. why doesn't he be able to take five hours a week or six hours a week and go to a medical setting, a medical laboratory? audience: he can't. gov. kasich: pardon? audience: he can't. gov. kasich: okay. but we need to be pushing this more in all of our schools, because people don't know about these programs. but this young man, if he goes out there, he's going to get so excited about what he wants to be. when i was a kid, i always wanted to be a lawyer. thank you, lord, for not letting that happen. [laughter] but here's the thing. think about how great it would have been had i been able to work for a judge or work for a law firm, and understood it. and i would be more excited about learning. let me give you another one. how about a kid that's going to drop out? what's that kid want to do? wants to work on engines, cars?

he loves video games. why don't we get them somewhere where they can work on that and create an individual path to graduation from high school because if you don't graduate from high school in the 21st century, these are all the exciting things that we can do if we just put our minds to it, and we think creatively. and you know what, talking about ideas, get everybody --yeah, let's do it. that's what's cool about being a governor. yes, young lady? audience: i live in exeter and my name is elaine. i was just looking in the newspaper the other day and i read that somewhere around 75% of americans acknowledge that climate change is real and i'm just wondering, you know, with the same scientific consensus behind climate change as evolution and gravity, why do

you think pretty much lots of republicans deny this basic science? why do you think that is? gov. kasich: well, i think human beings do effect the climate and i'm a big supporter of solar and wind and geothermal and efficiency, but i want all of the different sources. i saw seabrook today. i'm for nuclear too. i'm for all of this. [applause] so i think sometimes, you know, sometimes --i really know --i really have an opinion why they science? why do you think that is? gov. kasich: well, i think human beings do effect the do that. but i'm not going to tell you, because it's not good. i am running in the republican primary, but i'm for --i can't tell you how they think, but i can tell you how i think. i think there is something to climate change, but i think we have to take our time to have remedies, and the remedies are things like efficiency and solar and wind, and i think the other part of it is, let's not go so fast that we throw this kid out of work or this gentleman out of work. it's got to be a balance between a good environment and economic growth, which we can achieve. if you work at it, you can achieve it.

you don't want to worship the environment, but we have an obligation to protect it. i think sometimes --i've had a little battle with my legislature over the issue of renewables. and they tend to think, you know, it's subsidized. it's a government program and all of that. well, you know, what we have to develop these things, so i just have a little different view of what we should do in that area and i think we have to be careful about it, okay. yes, ma'am, right here. audience: i like your message. this summer is when i first saw you on tv. i was actually in ohio on a vacation, and we were at a rest stop, there was a plaque on the wall saying -- gov. kasich: this is really great. looking at my picture in a bathroom, right. [laughter] this is really something. audience: it was positive, and i came here because i had good feelings about you this summer. and i never kind of saw you. i always see trump or somebody else. but i thought if i come tonight and i still feel the same, i'm going to vote for you, and i

feel really -- gov. kasich: how am i doing? audience: you're doing great. [laughter] you're a leader, strong and you have a positive energy. gov. kasich: you know what they say you have to do in new hampshire? could i please have your vote? [laughter] did you see that? you have to ask for their vote. i was on a bended knee. audience: i'm going to ask a question that i still don't know the answer. i feel you speak for americans. i feel like you're not inflammatory and i see all kinds of inflammatory things said, and i think in the world now with the terror, i think we need to ratchet that down, and i feel like you would be a great, strong leader that was not inflammatory. how would you deal with the terrorism in our world now. i have 10 kids, i'm concerned. gov. kasich: 10 kids? audience: yeah, nine biological, one is adopted. gov. kasich: how are they doing? audience: two are not doing

well, and eight is fabulous. a percentage. by the way, my husband is the chair of the chemical engineering department at unh and he has a specialty in biomedical. gov. kasich: let me tell you something. this is how it works, kid, okay. so now you get her phone number, okay. and then you call her and you say, could i talk to your husband, and then you go down there and you see what they do. audience: and the other thing i wanted to say is my husband is not for wind or solar, but he is for nuclear, because he adds the numbers up and he says nuclear is the way to go, but politically, it doesn't work. gov. kasich: yeah, it is. they've just extended the license at seabrook. it's coming. they're building one in the south. but kid, get her number. [laughter] so here's the thing, look, i spent 18 years on the defense stuff, the defense committee.

and then after 9/11, donald rumsfeld invited me to a meeting of the former secretaries of defense and i in that meeting discovered the lapses that we had in listening on technology, and i asked the secretary if i could bring a group in from silicon valley to help them with technology, and for two or three years, that's exactly what i did, i would take groups in there. and these groups, these were brilliant people who solved a lot of problems so i've been around for a long time. you have to be cool and calm and deliberate, basically, on everything. you don't go kind of waving your arms and getting all worked up and using fiery rhetoric, unless you do it on purpose in a limited time. so let's talk about something i'm very concerned about tonight. i'm very worried about north korea, and i'll tell you why i'm worried about them. i'm not panicked about them, but

i'm worried about them. we have been kicking the north korea problem down the road for multiple administrations, because it's a very hard problem. seoul, korea, has 10 million people. they launch missiles into seoul, korea. it's unthinkable. so what do we do? well, one thing we should always have in the back of our mind is the concept of regime change. you know, what do we do to try to foster that? because it's not a given that they have to be there forever. but just --it's just a thought, and you don't want to be --frankly, i don't even want to be talking about it out loud here, but you want to consider that. now, what else do you do? well, we know that we have big problems with the chinese. we know that the chinese are cyber attacking us, or their friends are, stealing our secrets, violating a lot of things, and we have to have a cyber command. we just have are to create one and we have to tell people to that attack with cyber, we can

defend ourselves, harden our sites, and secondly, we have an offensive capability. and by the way if we catch you, you are a criminal. you are a hacker, a criminal, and we're going to come after you. you don't have to yell. i was in a debate and somebody said what would you do if the russians flew into a no-fly zone. one candidate said, i'd shoot their plane down. you know what i'd say, if they fly in the first time, they could fly out. but if they fly in the second time, they won't be able to fly out. do you see the difference? it's a difference in the way you talk. back to the north koreans, we have to let the chinese know, even though we have disputes with them, that they are not our enemy, and we expect them to straighten that regime out. they've got the leverage. they need to fix north korea. and now i know that john kerry last night apparently said something about north korea. if you embarrass the --said something about china. if you embarrass china, it's all

about face saving. you get nowhere. so why don't you just tell them quietly, and you say this is what we expect of you and these are the things we'll do and i want to know what you're going to do. and in addition to that, we need, for sure, to be able to intercept ships and planes out of north korea that could be carrying very dangerous materials or very significant technology that can be translated into material for a weapon of mass destruction. do you understand what i mean by that? a suitcase bomb, something along those lines. it's very, very serious. and we have to reassure the south koreans and the japanese with probably a missile defense system, if china doesn't act. but you don't have to panic and you don't have to threaten. you can be very, very calm about russia, we need to help ukraine. they want to be free, give them what they need to defend themselves. tell putin this is what we

expect. don't be going into europe. don't be going in and thinking you can invade nato countries, because that's just not going to happen. we're not going to tolerate that, and i don't have to raise my voice to you. i'm just telling you what i expect. and then that's what america used to do. reagan would say, you know, soviet union, we win, they lose. he didn't have to raise his voice, except when he went to that wall, and he said mr. gorbachev, tear down that wall. he didn't have to yell it. he meant it. in the middle east, isis, i give the first george bush incredible credit for pushing saddam out of kuwait, having a coalition of as of europeans that got that done and people said he should have gone all the way to baghdad. he said i'm not going to baghdad because if i do, i'm going to end up in civil war and george bush i deserves enormous credit for that decision. and isis must be destroyed with

the coalition and we need to let the regional powers sort it out once we have some stability, and the israelis, they're our friends, stop kicking them. you've got something you want to say to them, say it to them privately. [applause] now, i've never raised my voice. you don't have to raise your voice. but you better be firm. you better be tough, and you better know what you're doing, and i'm going to tell you, you want to be president of the united states, and you think you're going to have on the job experience? are you kidding me? by the way, for the last seven years, we've been saying how did we elect a one-term senator from illinois to be president with no experience? audience: running a ghost ship. gov. kasich: oh, we do, i haven't checked it out lately and looked at their experience. ma'am, what i would say is, cool and calm, no red lines, unless you mean it. it takes sophistication, and finally, coordination with our allies on intelligence. the final thing i want to tell you is our joint terrorism task

forces, which are headed up and cover this state and my state and states all across the country are headed by the fbi, the homeland security, state and local law enforcement, and they are the ones that go out and disrupt these plots. they're the ones. they need to have the resources and they need to have the tools that they need to be able to keep us safe. the lone wolf, we just seen in philadelphia. the only way you can stop it, they've got to pick up something, from the neighbor, from the family. and by the way, we all are our neighbor's keepers. did we know that? we didn't forget that, did we? and we've got it keep our eyes open. not paranoid, just determined, because that's the way we. so yes? you, young man, yes. audience: so i'm a senior in high school right now at the academy down the street, and i'm worried about the cost of college. you know, some of the schools

i'm looking at are $50-$70,000 a year, and i feel like what my family is going through right now trying to look at the costs or what a lot of middle class families are looking at right now, it's a tough spot to be in, you know, not --just making enough to not qualify for scholarships, but still not making enough to be able to pay it, and so i was wondering what you would do --what we could expect under your presidency to help with tuition. gov. kasich: good question. first of all, let me say a couple of things. and i don't know about you, but with my kids, i have one daughter that says that she wants to go to school in this far away state. i said what school do you want to go to? she says, well, i don't know, i just want to go there, okay. [laughter] i know a girl who had a full scholarship to indiana university. she turned it down and went to vanderbilt at a cost of $50-$60,000 a year. i don't think she's any farther ahead for the fact that she did that. so there's a couple of things to

think about. when you're in high school, you ought to be taking college credit, and you also ought to get yourself remediated. i don't know, you seem pretty well spoken and smart but if you need remediation, because most of --about 30-40% of our students when they graduate from high school and go to college have to take remedial math and english when they get to college. take it while you're in high school. get it completed. and then when it comes to picking the school, i hate to say something radical here, but maybe you go to community college for a couple of years. you have now cut your costs in half. and if you go to community college for three years, which is what we're going to push through in ohio, you cut your cost in 3/4, and you do your fourth year in college at the university, or say you just go two years to the community college, you've cut your costs in half. but then there's responsibility

that lies on the top of our leaders at our universities and community colleges. the biggest exploding cost of higher that lies on the top of our edr salaries, it is administrative overhead costs. get them under control. [applause] who bring uppeople these debts, already run them up, maybe a business can have incentives to help you pay off your loans. or you can have some community service and happy to work some of it down. i am going to suggest to you just go where you can afford it. $50,000-$70,000 in debt. scholarships,some but just be careful. you don't to start that far in the whole. we've got the schools to start figure out how to control their costs and take the college credit. you have it right here in this state.

you have college credit plus when they are transferable. writer. -- right here. no, they give up the grants. nobody has been very focused on the costs. i hired a commission of people who are business people that looked at the cost. let me give you a couple of examples. this -- 20n like years ago as a colleges saidsive, and politicians -- kasich: 20 years ago you got a loan from a bank. you did not get one from the federal government. the bank would say let's talk about this. a lot of those things of been withdrawn. you've is on both ends got to keep costs down and figure out another way to get that degree. let me tell you, you graduate

from college and even if you do not, i prefer to hire people that have degrees in something that just because you don't doesn't mean you are excluded. and college did you go to, i will hire you if you want to that school. i don't think like that. maybe i'm unusual. i just don't take about that. the only school you absolutely have to go to the ohio state university, we know that. [applause] [laughter] we are going to come near. >> would you get the federal government out of the student loan business? governor kasich: i don't know. it's also something i would have to say yes to, but i have to figure out what is involved in that. i would tell you, the federal government to get out of -- i want wealth of -- welfare programs to come back. i want medicare to come back.

i want education to come back. the other one i want to have come back and that is transportation. here is how it works right now. you go and you fill up your tank and you pay federal gas tax. you, us, everybody sends that money to washington to a committee of politicians and they decide what to do with the money. after they decide what they want to do with it they send it back. do you think they send back more or less? [laughter] they wanted me to build a high-speed train. this was an exciting proposition because it was the only train i could think of that i could run faster than. it was going to go 39 miles per hour. i said no thank you. if you don't -- i would send a couple of pennies to washington to maintain the interstate and then i would let the states keep the bulk of the money that they pay, your federal taxes, keep it in new hampshire, paper roads,

picture bridges. you can reduce the tax if you wanted. you probably wouldn't and human of the former speaker, and without maurice's -- you would have more resources. right now you cannot toll a road that is federal dollars and it. that is ridiculous. when it comes to the student loan, i'm a big privatization person. i would have to say was the implications going to other way? one last thing i want to tell you about student loans and overhead is the president of ohio state decided to sell or lease the parking garages and the service transportation. -- surface transportation. he did it anyway. billion for half $1 leasing those assets. which go to scholarships. why is the university running a parking garage? and why are they running parking anything? their job is to teach the kid,

not to run this other stuff. have about looking around a doing health care with other people that are doing health care? how about back office operations being shared? is the 21st century. how about some more online courses? by the way, have about having more professors that actually can speak english? it would be another novel idea i think we can all go for. [applause] right here. >> i've been sitting here looking at the sign up here. it says " a strong america is a safe america." tell us what your thoughts are in my that is up there. governor kasich: i have nothing that find before. [laughter] if you don't have a strong economy, he can't have strong defense. youou only have a strong -- will have the defense you want if you don't the money to pay for it. i will get it a couple of ways.

strong economically and strong militarily. when you are strong economically enough to be strong militarily. here's the other thing. when we can't solve problems, we look weak. we have to fix things, solve problems, shift money and power and influence back to where we live, build a stronger country, and river this -- remember this, grit and determination. they knock you down, you get up. they tell you what you can't do, you prove them wrong. understand? that is what america is about. that man back there is 61 and had a stroke. he got knocked down and got back up, didn't you serve? god bless you all and see you next time. [applause]

gordon, go ahead. governor? let me have the microphone. [indistinct chatter] picture, weants a will wait a. take pictures before have to scoot out of town. you are all welcome. >good luck to you. >> thank you. >> would you mind, thank you.

kasich: i've talked to the little guy and a little bit of compromise. microscopic, his brother is a press person for the governor. he is going to get there. >> governor? this is my grandson. another grandson. governor kasich: get over here at the grandparents. get in here. let's get this done. we got it. we have to do stuff and send

it to washington and they send it back and change something. >> [inaudible] >> i want them to know what the are going to do, find a passion. governor kasich: let me tell you something. [indiscernible] you have the raise the standards all across america. but i don't think they push you around. i am thrilled with what you are doing because you are changing lives. >> i love it. i love it.

governor kasich: thank you, good luck. and we want to do that. >> that is what we are trying to do but it is like baby steps. the kids i worry about that are more tactile and they have everything and they learn differently. we don't give them enough. that's right. they make good money. >> political science major. go.rnor kasich: every is that your dad? >> you were refreshingly frank. governor kasich: god bless you. good luck to you. come on, get a picture. do you have a camera? take a picture.

ready? 3, 2, 1. >> [indiscernible] governor kasich: he works with -- you tell him i said hello. tell your dad you were helping. who do we have here? i was inspired by you serve -- sir. i am inspired. >> 3, 2, 1. >> thank you. governor kasich: it's just a matter of pulling people together.

all right. [laughter] >> thank you. >> i want to shake your hand. [indiscernible] governor kasich: it is coming. >> it makes so much sense and i want you to be elected. governor kasich: it's moving. where rising now. >> i would love a picture. governor kasich: let's get it. it. knows how to do >> thank you. it's a windows phone, not an iphone. [laughter] governor kasich: what do you think about me on the flip phone? how about that?

where are you from? ok, great. really, where? cincinnati. yeah, i know. >[indistinct chatter] governor kasich: i got you. >> [indiscernible] governor kasich: i agree with that. we are starting to see them come back. and they are still in ohio.

do you know honda? they increased employment. we think chrysler is going up. there are a lot of good things happening. thank you. >> welcome to new hampshire. i'm very impressed. governor kasich: yeah, of course. that is what we are here for. >> ok, thank you so much. oh, the kasich: uh microphone. >> that is the one that worked all day. >> 1, 2, 3. >> it's been a pleasure. i've never heard the government paying back [indiscernible] kasich: we are paying it back now. we are running out of ious. we have to pay it back.

it's borrowing, so it has to be paid back. you cannot wipe it out. it's all the money that comes in. you can't separate one set of money from another. what we were there we do not have to borrow from it because we were balanced. >> wonderful. lots of luck. governor kasich: i know you. >> studying chemical engineering. governor kasich: he will be able to support you one day. >> thank you for running. governor kasich: that's all right. let's leave that aside for at least this year. our you? -- how are you?

let me get a picture right here and we will get you, olga. listen, think about what they're going to ring up before you make the choice now. you're we go. we got olga, she's from greece. >> i am from greece. we need more teachers teaching english. governor kasich: i will get a lot of bad mail for what i said. >> yes, he is a staff sergeant in the u.s. marine corps. governor kasich: look at that picture. look at that kid. >> we also have four other sons with enormous talent. governor kasich: i've got you.

>> can we get a picture? governor kasich: we can do it right here. all right. a marine, oh boy. >> thank you so much. thank you, god: bless you and god bless him, too. huh?body has got a phone, everybody has got a phone. where? >> martinsburg. given a case it -- governor kasich: i understand. you ever greater bridgeport? >> i've never been to it. governor kasich: i e-cigarette on it every once in a while to play golf. down there every once in a while to play golf. democrat a diehard

brother in iowa. kasich: get him to caucus. he's one of those democrats and don't want hillary. governor kasich: thank you. all right, thank you. come on. where is the phone. what is that i see? which one is it? i know, it's called foreshadowing. i know all about it. yeah. >> [indiscernible] it's about my family tree. you did bring up china and north korea.

i believe we have got to get that madman out. could be developing a nuclear bomb which we're not doing anything on our part. , but bush be already used to talk in the 90's about china. at the time he talked about it will pay off all these freedoms in china. we need to put it in their face. you can do something about that. governor kasich: i will read that. >> you have got my vote. governor kasich: how is the best looking? >> i don't want to talk about it. it's been rough this year. governor kasich: ohio state is struggling this year, but last year what a team. and you got your guy retired. that's a great school. what are you taking? >> going to bring my family out

for you. governor kasich: you will be something. that is a great major and a great school. 1, 2, 3. governor kasich: are you in madison? you're having the time of your life. thank you. come on, get in here. >> he's got my cell phone there. >>. 1, 2, 3 >> thank you so much. governor kasich: thank you. ohio.wn a business in because of the economy [indiscernible] --ernor kasich: what is your >> distribution. governor kasich: i just talked

to them. good luck. if you have problems, contact my office. all right girls. hello. >> we couldn't wait for our turn. [laughter] >> 1, 2, 3. >> perfect. >> awesome. thank you for being a reasonable candidate. governor kasich: i'm just a regular guy. i've got five dollars and i would love that. governor kasich: thank you. we have got to go. thank you. who is this to? >> jay.

kasich: we have got to go. mike says you are the guy. i would like to get a little bit more time than this would allow. we will be back. >> we need you. [indistinct chatter] next live at 7:00 to calls and comments on "washington journal." then live coverage at the kemp forum in columbia, south carolina. has president obama prepares for his state of the union address on tuesday he released this video on twitter. [video clip]

>> i am working on my state of the union address. is my last one. i keep thinking about the road we have traveled these past seven years. that is what makes america great, our capacity to change for the better. our ability to come together as one american family and pull ourselves closer to the america we believe in. it's hard to see sometimes and the day-to-day noise of washington, but it is who we are. and it is what i want to focus on in this state of the union address. >> c-span's coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern with historian -- and james arken looking back at the history and tradition of the president of the annual message and what to expect in this year's address. live coverage of the president of the speech followed by the republican response by governor nikki haley. and to react iphone, facebook, as well ase-mails,

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