they are counting on the fact that corporations and individuals don't want to fight with the federal government. with the intimidation you're asking the professor about, is the rather vaguely worded, despite the attorney general's continuous use of the word clarify, it is exactly the opposite of what they are doing. they are opening the door of the application of five-year jail penalties to a bunch of people under the existing law, believe they understand they do not fall under that law. senator murphy: what i see our existing court cases that are public record. mr. cuccinelli: senator, they could keep pressing ahead to abide the existing laws.

senator murphy: when you bring all of it together, you all, with one of you on the panel, when you are discussing circuit theircuit differences, fourth circuit which i am in, we have unique case law, but people who live there do think of themselves as dealers and make a business of selling, recognize what that law is, they do not understand it. now you're introducing at the national level the new threats of enforcement that there would not be any need for if the law does not change. so what will they think? they will think that the five-year penalty as held out over their heads. that intimidation has been used in all sorts of arenas by this administration for seven years.

i want to goy: back to the law. i will quote. you are familiar with it. for the record. applied to a dealer in firearms as defined in 921, a person who devotes time and labor to dealing with firearms as a regular course of trade of business with the principal objective of livelihood through repeated purchase and resale of firearms, but such terms shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of personal collection or a hobby. all other sales for collection of firearms. is trying toent get around the law. the law is clear."

>> i think he is trying to eliminate the last clause of that section. >> i think so. >> do you agree? there is a part of that that people are missing. this is not just that you are one person selling one gun. because the widow whose husband died and she is trying to sell his collection would not be subject to this. you had asked me. >> i'm sorry can i finish? >> let her answer. >> i think it has been explicit that it wanted to prohibit the inclusion of the occasional gun ,eller from having to be listed or getting a firearms license. and you have read the existing law, but the president announced

that he wanted to change the existing law. >> i read you the executive action. ms. malcolm: ok, but the president announced that he wanted to include people, the sun -- the so-called gun show loophole. >> he wants to include right protected in the law, but he wants to do about executive order. ms. malcolm: yes. let's look at what this is aimed at, these people who have emerged to sell thousands of firearms while they have another job. in the meantime, they may not have a store, but they have business cards and maybe they are fine -- selling these firearms and they are clearly in the business. that is why they have not defined a certain number of who is in the business and who is not, so people who should not be

captured, the widow who is trying to sell her husband guns, would not be captured with this. senator: i think a lot of us agree that we want to keep guns away from people who have mental health problems, criminals and terrorists, but we want to protect the rights of gun owners under the second amendment. mr. baden: i do not see infringement on that in any of this language. india? -- and you? senator murphy: i think there is a change -- mr. cuccinelli: i think there is a change in sales with the internet and i do not think that anybody would object to people license as avenues, , but new law was

not needed for that. however, the enforcement and the additional enforcement tolls -- tools would get to those folks. i would note that the gun show loophole is not a new debate. 40 miles west of here we have the largest gun show on the east coast and we haven't because of legislation in the state senate that one of your colleagues signed at that time and we went through the gun show with 1000 tables, 400 tables with gun sales, filming. and we went to every single seller of guns and asked every single one if they were licensed and every single one was except. of the six i'm a we asked three of them, why are you here selling them? and they all had the same answer, they were private owners

liquidating their collections. and it is covered in the law. in the debate in virginia, it happened every year, never a year off from the debate, there was never identified in virginia a purchase using the preference that was mentioned, that came from the clinton and administration by the way, where we found criminally used to guns being bought and sold at gun shows. it is not happen in virginia. senator: we are wrapping up. i think at the heart of this issue, this is a disagreement about what the words on this page say and i think it is important that when pressed, no of the that none of the witnesses could recite any actual verbiage in the order

that speaks to this claim of intimidation and i think that the exception that you talked about mr. chairman for those of them that are just engaging in sales, that is important. that is in the guidance, and says very specifically that if you make occasional sales of firearms you do not need to be licensed. you need to be licensed if you repetitively by and sell to make a profit. i think there is a fundamental disagreement about what is actually on the page and i hope as we have this debate, it is not anchored in perceived intentions about what the administration is secretly trying to do and that it is based in the text of the executive order and i think that .s what we have been missing it is disputes that are anchored

in the text, but if you come back to the text, it is something that we all agree on. we should enforce the existing law and we should left out from under that regulation those that are just selling firearms occasionally from a personal collection. mr. sherman: -- mr. chairman: thank you. the endgame should be that we all uphold the constitution. i want to thank the witnesses for coming today and we have had an interesting debate and it is good. questions that would be submitted we hope you would answer within 30 days for the stance the subcommittee -- stands in recess. thank you very much. [chatter]

>> we will have live coverage this evening of candidates. senator bernie sanders will be in new hampshire and hillary clinton is at the university of iowa, scheduled to begin at 8:30 p.m. road to the white house, this evening on c-span. campaign 2016, taking you on the road to the white house. this weekend, live coverage from new hampshire for the first in the nation presidential town hall with a candidates, including rand paul, jeb bush, john kasich, chris christie, ,arly fiorina, rick santorum and marco rubio.

and on saturday at 8:00 p.m., live coverage of a campaign rally in iowa with texas senator ted cruz and glenn beck. and on sunday afternoon, there will be covered from iowa at a rally or -- for donald trump. for more on the weekend schedule, go to our website, www.c-span.org. lesser-known candidates for the 2016 nomination attended a forum in manchester, new hampshire. they responded to questions on foreign and domestic policy as well as on the leading candidate seeking the nomination.

mike: i think we were waiting on one more name tag, but while we are waiting let's introduce the next group of candidates. we have 20 democratic candidates . i will start by a request from the viewers, when you are answering, make sure you are speaking into a microphone so the viewers can hear answers. we are going from five candidates to 20 candidate, so we will do our best to keep rings as fair as we can and make sure that everybody has a chance to answer questions and we'll probably do more with show of hands questions and move quickly through issues to make sure that everybody can make their voices known. with that, we begin with a two-minute opening statements. we will start with john adams of

new york. >> i am relatively unknown. we did a poll that showed i was only at 1.5% name recognition. i am a former professor and former state attorney general and i am running for president because i believe in a better tomorrow and i believe we need to have other options. a little more about me, everything i have done has been behind the scenes. i have been quietly supporting democrats my entire life, leading from the shadows and requesting and asking for special forces to fight extremism in the middle east, ever since iran for congress and president obama adopted that about one month ago, so i applaud that. bernie sanders recently adopted my position on isis in russia, that we need to work with russia to combat isis and we should

make isis a priority. i also want to thank bernie for adopting my position on student loan interest rates, it was my position to cut those in half and move forward in a way that makes sense for everybody. i am looking for to meeting all of you and i thank you very much. i would also like to thank the president for introducing marriage equality. that was introduced in new hampshire in 2009 and would like to thank the state for being the first in the nation for being the guardians of the presidential election process. how much time? thank you. you know, i am targeting new hampshire. i am not running in iowa. , so i havejon adams a new england connection. if you look at what i have done

my entire life, i am a lifelong democrat. i wanted to vote for jimmy carter when i was five years old. everything i have done for marriage equality in 2002 as an attorney general, all the way down to water rights. i look at this wonderful, clean water we have and i think that -- and i think about flint. i have on myt what website. we have rocky from california. rocky.i am i was born in san diego. through hard work and acquiredce i have international knowledge and experience. i am very proud to be hispanic and proud of my heritage. i know what it is like to jump

through hoops and prove yourself over it and over again. most of us have faced hurdles in my daily life. i have always found a way to overcome them. like i did in massachusetts, north carolina and michigan. in case you do not know, i am over 30 ballots and 30 states. in addition, voters in ohio would have only three choices the democratic candidates, clinton, sanders and myself. o'malley did not qualify in decided, it race is will be between three different people and i expect to do a good showing in ohio and other states. i am tired of the republicans blaming the democrats and the democrats blaming republicans. our homeless and other issues

are ignored as the white house does nothing. we are divided. and we are forced to listen to the campaigns with speeches of ignorance and hate as opposed to wisdom and respect. i am pleased to be here tonight to honor the first amendment. lastly, i was featured in debates. i am here today because ronald reagan, martin luther king jr., and other leaders are not here. thank you very much. mike: next is eric. 1 i return from several months of conducting focus groups in indonesia and i was troubled about what the groups showed about the future, so i decided to enter the first primary in the country to discuss those ideas and move things to an area of understanding.

lead -- leave some of that to the questions. but i would like to talk about a solution i have seen and not heard in this campaign, that is my right now the middle east is divided between sunni and shia fighting each other the way the protestants and catholics did for a long time. drawne nationstates are by old powers that were used to divide and conquer and playoff against each other. the shia continue to fight these wars that we are playing a role in. my physician is stash suggestion is that we we draw the map of the middle east and so that we can create different countries so that would allow democracy to take hold. the microstate -- democracy means advancing a way of life, instead of using powers to

suppress their opponents. that is an idea i would like to inject into this campaign. by havingm that directed a program at harvard, i was the director of the international think tank for president obama and i am strategy national security corporations in washington dc . raise,t thing i want to the other part of this campaign, -- the president we have with barack obama. he is the greatest president of our lifetime. thank you very much. mike: the next candidate is bill french for messages that. .ill: i am a single dad i have a stanford economics degree and i am successful

businessman. the middle class in the u.s. is turning. he cannot support a family on seven dollars an hour. up a $15 minimum wage will hurt businesses and the economy. so what do we do? for everybody earning less man $15 an hour, the government wants to make up half the difference between pay and $15 an hour. how do we finance this? we could finance it with a supplement, the 25% tax fund imports from china, free-trade is not working between the u.s. and china. billion a year and we export $120 billion a year. in u.s. will receive about $75 billion a year in new revenues from the tax and about two million jobs will be created in the u.s., saving about $30

billion in welfare. we should add just -- i just the tax each year based on net import so that china does not have incentive to stop buying from the u.s. although this tax will result in a small increase in price of goods coming from china, i would rather pay five dollars for an u.s.,hat is made in the then pay four dollars for an item made by children in china. we should limit the price of prescription drugs in the u.s. to the lowest price it is sold anywhere else in the world. criminals should be in domestic courts, learning job skills rather than skills -- and skills that will keep them out of jail in the future. we should require any employed andon to accept the job

benefits and we should increase the standard deduction and have testing services for testing for online courses. mike: thank you mr. first. bill: -- mike: our next candidate. mr. seward -- to her. >> i am a candidate trying to make the race to be a well-known -- case to be a well-known candidate. there is good reason for reporters to pay attention. i am a liberty minded democratic -- democrat. some people call it a conservative democrat. i am in the space that jfk was, but current leaders in my party have vacated. they do not get liberty. in their attempts to support them., they hurt i make a message to everyone of those groups to think how liberty actually brings us

together. didn't -- students, that is one group. it is ludicrous when you try to make something free when it should have -- bernie and hillary planned or -- pander as if you are fit greater source -- or worse.ers i think it is a pretty good message. i am like rand paul in that way and you will hear this all the way to california. this primary, i hope i will collect enough delegates for philadelphia to make a difference. with some reporters here, it might work. didn't get hurt by government. women have not been advantaged despite a lot of leaders in the party saying, i am all for

women. disabled people, we cannot forget them. but the government cannot care for them as well as individuals can. i try to make that message throughout the primaries, you can go to liberty.com. there is more content there and hillary and bernie combined. mike: our next candidate from new york. henry: my name is henry hughes. the democratic party has traditionally fought are those without voices and power. i am troubled by illegal immigrants in the country to drive down the wages for working americans. i am troubled by students who are burdened by huge debt. i am troubled by 3000 driven .ttack in foreign countries i am troubled by social security and medicare verging on bankruptcy. i am troubled by food dance --

stamps which have created an epidemic of diabetes. i am troubled by an income path -- tax system which penalizes labor. running toant, i am try to make a point, i stand with lyndon johnson, bobby kennedy, martin luther king, and jimmy carter, and being pro-life. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are pro-abortion radicals. in thepport abortions late-term and they support partial-birth abortions, abortions for population control and they support it for sex selection. we have to understand that 3500 babies died today, 25,000 babies will die this week.

100,000 babies will die this month and over one million will die this year. hillary clinton is not concerned, bernie sanders is not concerned, i am concerned and the great majority of democrats are concerned. the democratic party is not populated by pro-abortion radicals, it is good people who want to support the right to life of every citizen of the united states. mike: thank you. we will go to our second level. >> good evening. i am running for president because we are jeopardizing our children's futures. currently, we have a national debt that is approaching $19 trillion and we are poised to add $500 billion to that figure in 2016. imagine if you will, you go to the store and divide -- buy

stuff and you put it on your credit card and when you get home you hand those bills to the kids and you say, you can pay these off. you and i would not do that and the federal government needs to stop doing that too. i have a plan. excluding social security and medicare, i would not cut them, but i would cut all other spending by 10%, that would reduce the deficit by $250 billion. at this point i propose making a medicare tax, not a social security tax. i propose raising the medicare 2.5%.ising it to you are talking 1% tax increase, yet it would raise $80 billion in additional revenue. additionally, i propose a national entertainment tax on movies and concerts of 5-10%,

because if you can afford entertainment you can afford more tax. and finally, i believe we have to pass a constitutional amendment to enact term limits for members of congress, they get in and stay there forever and do their own bidding rather than working for you and me. democracy can only flourish when everyone can participate. thank you. mike: thank you. next is lloyd kelso. lloyd: good evening, i am a trial lawyer from north carolina. i do a lot of family law and personal injury law. i also have a wife, deborah. and i have five children altogether, counting the children -- step children. and we have 12 grandchildren. we have a nice life in north carolina and i could be out

sitting by my summing goal -- swimming pool, but the better alternative is to get involved in politics and see what we can do about the problems we have. this election is about a lot of things. the next president will decide if we will be at work or at peace. -- war or at peace. they will decide if the middle class will keep going down or go up. the next president will decide whether the four -- poor will be able to rise up. i have a plan to deal with these things. i will not tax people who make less land $36,000 a year -- than $36,000 a year. i will change social security and reduce the amount of tax and i would get rid of the -- social security altogether.

making these changes we can make a huge difference in america. i would also like to change the way that we handle care. a care card for all veterans, and we would try to make sure that they get the same care as everybody else in the country. i don't think there has been much talk about veterans care tonight, but that is something that will be part of my policies and my campaign. that's just the start of what we want to do. i would like to see big changes made in america. >> thank you. next is stephen ray lipkin. exitamerica.org. so many of us have started to believe that the government is broken, and highly unlikely to be fixed in our lifetime. so many of us want to do something, but have absolutely no idea where to start. i have gone across the country tonight to proclaim as loudly as

i possibly can that there is something we can do. to saycome here tonight to as many people and introduce as many people as i possibly can amendment,tutional and before you completely tune out, understand that the people come from a broken system want you to think it's utterly impossible, but it is anything but. all you need our votes, and you and i, we vote for intellect the people who cast those votes. the fix in america constitutional amendment does to very critical, simple things. number one, it stops selling our elections to the highest bidder. number two, it stops the process of gerrymandering, where we draw lines to benefit particular political parties. number one, stop selling our

elections. number two, stop cheating when you draw the lines. a.org, go to fixitameric you can go to your legislators today and get those people to sign up to be part of the solution. -- do we really think that those people went to the public service believing that they would get nothing done and be rewarded by spending 40% of their time raising money? i really don't think so. we here at every election cycle -- every time they come up and say that washington is broken. your car is broken it doesn't matter if you drive it, it ain't going anywhere. >> robert menon of fort knox, kentucky. >> thank you. i would like to thank the college for this event. i would like to thank new

hampshire for allowing the non-politicians like myself be able to register. my field is in technology, computers, and security. know -- at to let you little bit of personal family history. there is a book we have all my mother's side of the family, it talks about one family member who converted to republicanism a little bit of personal family history. and the thought struck me. when i registered to be a democrat when i was 18, you could not find republicans other president, senator, and congressman. you couldn't find a dogcatcher as republican. but now you look at kentucky --

both of our senators are republican, our governor is republican, one democratic representative. what has happened? converted tor has republicanism. so, anyway. it's good to hear that there are other democrats here who are that areives, moderate. i consider myself a moderate. moderate democrat. i adhere to the constitution. we need to balance the budget. we need to secure the borders. but all in all, we also need to make sure that those who can't take care of themselves are taking care of. >> thank you.

next is william mcgahee of minnesota. mccoy, william minneapolis. i'm the only candidate running for president in the democratic party from the midwest. that includes a wide area. i'm doing so because i want to particular issues that i think are outside the political mainstream. contentious, but our politics are completely polarized by gender and race. if you look at the election of 2012. of the black vote, something like 80% of the

vote.sbian/transgender hispanic, immigrant vote. majority of the female vote. mitt romney i think got 59% of the white vote. something very strange is happening. decided to run as a democrat, partly on the issue of dignity for white people. i want to have race discussed. in a different way i am married to an african-american woman. this racial division is not

going to help this country at all. openlyto run so we can -- ok. i'm also for shorter work week, a 32 hour workweek. ok. >> keep it moving. thank you. >> thank you, my name is raymond michael moore. a proud union member from the state of new york. my nephew came in from san diego, and he asked me -- why are you running for president? o'brien, it shouldn't be a war. there is no need for that. among other things, he asked me

to listen to some things, to tell them to you. probably by next week the decide court will -- that was one of the reasons i came here. i think there is a crisis in the middle class. new hampshire had a proud union history, and i think that should be reversed. i would like to try and get a living wage of $20, adjusted to inflation, universal health care, free college for all, at 10% reallocation of the military budget for intelligence against isis and not hard army reserve stuff. control, i think you

should create a federal bureau of gun statistics based on the congressional budget office, where you can get impartial statistics gathered and make recommendations for gun control. i.e., the 50 caliber guns and people's backyards. i don't think any veteran should wait one minute if there is a medical facility available anywhere in the country. you should go to any hospital. thank you. >> thank you. edward o'donnell of bridgeport, pennsylvania. >> look at a small child on christmas morning. all people who have ever lived want to things -- happiness and healing. the first step to that is for all of us to treat everyone with love, forgiveness, mercy,

tolerance, kindness, respect, dignity, friendliness, chivalry, courtesy, and old-fashioned manners. the great colegate football coach completely turned my life around through his friendship. he did that to thousands of other people. that is our job -- to turn lives around. niece has weakness and kindness -- she is a nurse. my middle nurse has been gifted healing, you feel better with her. my youngest niece is good at visiting the sick. look up across -- this is a guy who never had one moment of happiness, but in the last second he saw the goodness and he said, i am sorry for what i did -- i will of others, i want

to make a difference in this world. he will be remembered down through the ages. our job is to help people,, to love people to encourage people. to bring the message of christmas -- the keep it going -- to his many people as possible. >> thank you. our next candidate is graham schwartz. >> hello. my name is graham schwartz, down in meramec valley, one-mile from here. i want to thank new hampshire for ballot access and i want to thank saint anselm for this format. i have been a progressive democrat for 30 years. i am running to promote the most important issue of our time, saving the natural world,

stopping the vast extinction of species and habitat. i am doing this now because we are out of time. we are destroying god's green and blue earth. is -- if you do not love the earth and all living things, we love nothing, neither god nor man or a special your own children. i must demand this issue be dealt with by everybody, in particular by the democratic party. if the support is not forthcoming from the democratic party, i will have no choice but to go to the republicans. let me say a few things on social justice. i also would like to see a shorter work week. i think we all would. flextime, enough vacation sharing. if we create the wealth, we should share it.

i support black lives matter, and i feel that it is vital that we reformed the prison system, reduce prison population by at least half, and mandatory and excessive sentencing. that oninish by saying the syrian refugees, i don't know what -- are we cowards now? are we afraid to help a few women and children that need our help? i want to finish by saying that i think we need to get the republicans out of congress as soon as possible. thank you. >> thank you. sloan.oa >> i was born in america, my parents are born in america, my grandparents were all born in america, and although it to my great grandparents were born in america. they came over from america and sweden in the middle 1800s.

two of my ancestors fought in the american revolutionary war. uncles fought in world war ii. three of my children -- i have eight children and five grandchildren. three of my children are in the u.s. military know. i have one daughter who served and a thirdnd iraq, in the army just got back. my son is getting ready to go to iraq now, but if i am elected he will not go to iraq because we will. bring them all back we will stop dropping bombs on iraq. we drop all our forces all over e will not payw any other countries to fight wars, either. they have to defend themselves with our own money and we will

not be involved with all these wars all around the world. republicans want to drug bombs on iran, iraq, syria and afghanistan. a republican, that it wants to start a war with russia. 6 million americans have been adopted. i am an expert on finding the birth parents have been adopted. every day i find more parents of children who have been given away ford option. -- given away for adoption. there should be a law that anybody over the age of 21 should have a right to their own birth certificate, if they have been adopted. anyone who can drive a car legally -- i am out of time. >> thank you. another new yorker. >> hello. i'm an economics forecaster and portfolio manager who lives in

new york. we need presidents with specific details, clearly workable solutions, not vague platforms and empty promises, which has generally been the case. that is why we never solve our problems. solutions ithat the website --ed on my my main economic policy reform is revolutionary. it will make qa finance the standard tool for economic finance, allowing us to prevent recessions and high unemployment in the future while maximizing economic growth. this is how it works. whenever the real unemployment discouragedincludes workers and part-time workers seeking full-time jobs, rises above 4%, the president and the federal reserve would determine how big a tax rebate would be required to quickly get the

economy growing in the real unemployment rate back down to 4%, which is more or less full employment. today, with the real unemployment rate around 7%, we need a tax rebate of about $2000 for each and every taxpayer. qe, by the way, leaves the tax rebate is financed by the federal reserve, not by government debt. 2009, $800tive, the billion obama stimulus program was the equivalent of a $5,000 tax rebate for each and every taxpayer, or $10,000 for a family of two taxpayers. over the past few years, we have had $3 trillion of qe, but it was not the right type of qe, since it was mainly used to benefit the banks. what was needed instead back in 2009 was a $5,000 to refinance tax rebate for each and every american. thank you. >> thank you.

our next candidate is michael steinberg. >> thank you. i'm 56-year-old and the owner of a medium-sized social security and veterans disability law firm in tampa. the national organization of veterans advocates, democratic executive committee, and i'm currently a member of the hillsboro county health care advisory board. i have been practicing law for 33 years. i have given lectures at veterans law conferences throughout the country. over 50% of our budget involves payments for social security, ssi, medicaid, medicare, and veterans benefits. we need someone who has expertise in these areas, and i don't mean someone who sits on a veterans committee and hears from bureaucrats, bragging about

how well their agency is doing. the social security trust fund -- you kids here, in 20 years, the social security administration will not be able to pay the benefits they promised you. you will get $.70 on the dollar on most changes are made. disability trust fund would have been bankrupt this year except for a stock measure passed earlier, in 2015, extending the solvency for a few more years. people who are applying for social security disability benefits are waiting years to get their hearings. veterans are in worse shape, and we still have millions of people who do not have health care. handling thousands of social security and veterans disability cases over the past 33 years. the job of the president is to make sure that the government agencies do their job, and i will make sure that the government agencies serve the people in a fair, prompt, and

courteous manner, efficiently and on budget. thank you. >> thank you. our last candidate is richard lyons wall. >> good evening. washington, d.c. is completely frozen and nothing can be accomplished. if this was your computer you would reboot. i propose we reboot america. in 1980, when ronald reagan began the massive tax cuts for the wealthy, tax rates were cut from 70% to approximately 30%. this started the country on a course where income inequality became a major problem. for a taxpayer making $10 million per year, this meant his income one from $3 million to $7 million. the $4 million came directly out of the u.s. treasury, which then took money away or goods and services that we need for the

people of our country. this is the cause for our deficit. i propose that we raise the tax rates, the top tax rates, 70% on incomes above $3 million. these funds could then be used to fund the education for our citizens, to help fund the health care for our citizens. we then need to raise the minimum wage to $22 per hour, and index it to inflation. this brings it down back to 1960's levels, where people could live at the subsistence level, which is the least amount of money necessary to survive. that we take the income ceilings of the social security tax. presently, most americans who make under $118,000 per year pay social security on 100% of their income. let's take the caps off and

allow the millionaires in the billionaires, who basically pay 0% of their income to social security, to pay the same amount of social security tax as all other americans. this will allow social security to be solvent in 75 years. >> thank you. that does it for our opening statements. now we will open it up to some questions. we have a before, much bigger field of candidates here on the democratic side and the republican side, so we are going to do our best to keep it fair and give all of you a chance to answer questions. i will ask some of you individual questions and some for the group. let's open up with john -- you had a question. -- and i will direct this just randomly -- was the first job of president is to be commander in chief, and there wasn't a whole lot of talk about national security.

i know you praise president obama. -- there any areas where you at what point would you commit american troops to the middle east? what has to happen for you to do that? and then perhaps we can get some other views. >> very good question. we have been bombing islamic countries for 15 years now, and the islamic world is starting to identify. there is a 9/11 every week happening somewhere in the islamic world. our bombs are very effective, and have destroyed cities that have been around for a thousand years. we don't need to be in the middle east. president bush brought this country down to its knees, economically and militarily, with wars that we did not need. he has -- i have a long-term vision from extracting us, and

right now we need the withlicans bearish for war -- for war with iran. have played the simulation games 12 times and it doesn't turn out very well. we need to be thankful for president obama for what he has done, avoiding another war with iran. i think that is important, that we get out of the middle east, that we can prevail by retrying these nationstates that don't require us to get involved. >> thank you. mr. o'donnell. >> yes. is a new foreign policy. gandhi said the goal was to wipe every tear from every eye, and i propose a foreign policy by which we focus almost 100% of our efforts on feeding,

clothing, housing, employing the third world poor. people, no spying on and having our embassies help the poorest of the poor rather than focusing on helping with the corporations and wealthy tourists. a new foreign policy to help people all over the world. >> mr. hughes. >> if president obama has done such a great job, why do we still have soldiers in afghanistan? why are the bombs still falling on several countries -- somalia, yemen? this is not success. this is not commitment to extracting us from hopeless, senseless, winless war, which is what we have experienced not only for eight years under george bush that for a long years -- but for eight long years under president barack obama. we are still sending drones to

assassinate people in their houses, and it is unbelievable to me that when barack obama ran, this was the legacy that he would leave. andeed to repudiate that, we need to make a decision that we are not going to assassinate people abroad, that we are not going to bomb their cities, that no crusader army is ever going to solve the problem in the middle east. >> stewart. >> i want to echo both henry and eric. we don't understand the middle east, so let's not even attempt to try and fix it, especially when lives are on the line. we don't understand people who will -- that is not an american thing. we are not going to be able to understand and nation build. the people in the middle east, many of them have been fighting sunni versus shia for something that started 1400 years ago

because one sect thinks that relative,- the one and i think there is one other different, that they will self-flagellation. we can't understand why they would be fighting life and death for this -- don't try to get into a war that we can't fix, even if we win. i think we first have to realize who we are fighting here, and that is that we are fighting islamic extremists who want to kill all of us. they want to kill everyone who is opposed to their viewpoint irout allah being ther god, and that the end of the world will come through their jihadist movement. you are sitting here tonight and not in fear of isis, then you need to be rethinking it.

these folks want to kill everyone in the middle east. they want to kill everyone in this room. we're going to have to do something about going to the middle east. i'm not going to tell you exactly what i'm going to do like of the ball coach. i may run, i may pass. but i'm going to go there and knock them out. isis will not be a problem in the second, third year of my term, i promise you. >> you sound like donald trump. >> thank you. >> all the nations which are starting wars or are violence ridden our countries which do not respect human rights. think -- we have to remember that every member nation of the united nations has the universal andaration of human rights, somehow we don't have the united

nations enforce that universal declaration. if they put the emphasis on nations respecting human rights and enforcing them, and if they don't, they have to be kicked out of the united nations, or we have to create a new united nations only as nations which respect and enforce human rights. it is very cynical to have the united nations and hollow member nations under sign the declaration of human rights, and the great majority of them do not. to get down to the bottom of all this violence in the world, we need to enforce human rights. >> continue on this strip e. you mentioned you would want to work with russia to defeat the islamic state. as you know, we are currently at odds in russia as to what to do with bashar al-assad. how would you resolve that issue in terms of the syrian civil war, and should assad step down? >> thank you. my problem with

current foreign-policy is that we are prioritizing the citizens of syria, or libya, over american interests. andnumber one priority, bernie sanders just came around ago, hasonight two nights to be destroying isis. russia is not the soviet union. they are not communist. they are not trying to spread communism. they are democratic oligarchy. they are not a threat like they were in the 1970's. i think it is misguided to try and focus foreign policy on deposing another dictator because you don't know what he is doing. we have to prioritize our safety, our security. we have to get rid of isis. and on the other question, i would be very sparing in using ground forces. i went completely rule it out because sometimes you have to go to war.

>> let's get a show of hands -- is there anybody on the stage who would send american troops into the middle east to help defeat the islamic state. would. >> i wouldn't rule it out. >> excuse me, was your time frame? -- what's your time frame? i would not send in ground troops right now. state,end, the islamic they have to address these issues themselves. you have got a civil war going on among these people that we have been dragged into over the years. right now i wouldn't do it, but i would never as president take any option off the table. your question -- i wanted to clarify. >> shelley move into more topics? -- shall we move into more topics? >> we need to take a defensive

posture against isis. in the united states, that means watching mosques, watching the internet and facebook, seeing what is going on, where people are radicalized. we need to watch it not by having humans looking at conversations, but by having monitoring wide variety of conversations looking for words to do with attack and jihad and that nature. >> we do want to try to get everyone having an opportunity -- next question. thank you. several opinions already about the middle east -- i even heard the name trump. should the u.s. be accepting refugees from syria, from other conflicts? well, under some circumstances i think yes. but that should be very much the

second choice. it is that wey to dissidents, insurgents against the government in syria because we had a romantic notion of the arab spring, and they were going to bring democracy. that hasn't worked out at all. of get we have to kind together with some of the radicals that have been fighting, but we do have to defeat isis. i think that is a new threat that needs to be addressed. only after this moderate solution in syria in an attempt to bring the russians and some -- that is syria

what i think. by globalizing the war on terror and further globalizing it with this war on isis, the results will be one, that muslim people radicalized through the internet and all over the world, and muslims everywhere are going to start taking on their personal lives, and it will have the result of americans on the streets of the cities of the quickly, that will end american preeminence in the world. two, it will put in danger the whole concept of globalization. it may even put in danger the whole concept of modernity. fundamentalism. these immediate results -- like we will carpet

bomb. what we have to do this project out 15 years. todon't want the islamic law consume the 21st century the way nazi of the men communism consumed the 20th. we are driving that. the military-industrial complex is growing. do you want to weigh in? >> the first and foremost -- you have to know if you're playing your a game, into the opponent is. you cannot telegraph your moves. you cannot tell a chess player what you're going to move. as commander in chief, you control the army, the navy, and the munitions. the question is can you telegraph your move? no, you have to keep a close to your vast. you have to know basically --

they can't be able to predict you. . thank you >> john, the next question. you have covered a lot of ground in your opening statement. i'd like to know -- let's hone in on the so-called major candidates. they win, what is the biggest priority out of all the priorities you have named that they need to be addressing? >> the highest priority is security. as i mentioned in my opening statement, my field deals a lot with security. that is not to diminish all the other problems that we face, like drug addiction and unemployment and underemployment. day, i'll get a

thorough briefing of what the situation is in the world and the details on security. any specifics? >> we brought you here to talk about them. >> you don't want to say too much about what you are going to do to your adversary, because that.an work against i've always since i was a young child not strategically. -- thought strategically. >> thank you. same question -- first day. >> first day in office, i would implement plans to try and raise the minimum wage to subsistence level. the most important thing we can do is end poverty in this

country. i would put forces together to try and put together a program like the works in progress administration to increase our infrastructure standing on education. if we can raise the wage to a level as well as create much more demand for workers, those two things will automatically raise all wages and america. that would be the first thing i would do. the second thing i would try is use diplomacy to solve problems in the middle east. throughout history, wars have all been ended through a negotiated process. in this age of development in the civilized world, to fight wars anymore should be ended. a $22 suggested minimum wage

-- is there anyone else who would support the minimum wage at that level? >> i would like to answer if i could. >> i would also like an index to inflation. if it is not, americans lose wages. why do you think we should have a minimum wage of $22 per hour? >> the first thing i would do -- $800 billion in the bank accounts of our nation. millionaires and billionaires, and if you want to save america, you have schoolkids who send in their pennies, you take most of that money, higher every unemployed person, every prisoner, former prisoner, disabled, escort -- guaranteed job. they have no customers and no money for advertising. they create so many jobs for the unemployed. the free market will not higher

these massive numbers of unemployed, in the unemployment rate is three time with the government wants. i believe that the minimum wage should be a minimum of $14, but more importantly, why did i raise my hand for $22? because i believe it should be more than minimum wage. it is not the same for the bottom of the social structure. what about the mechanic? the airport mechanic? have four need to different types of minimum wage, depending on skill level. we do not need to reinvent the rules. look at what happens at other countries. the answer is we should tell labor, the unions, the people what to expect within my first four years of government. >> the next question -- does thisinberg,

country have a problem with police brutality, and if so, what would you do about it? >> there are good cops and there are bad cops. there are good attorneys and there are bad attorneys. overall, most police officers are good police officers, however with a police officer does something bad, i think it is hard for the police agency for whom he works to decide -- to regulate him. i think the u.s. attorney general needs to get involved and investigate police brutality that occurs on a local level. i like the idea of citizen review boards, made up of nonpolice officers, to evaluate a violation ofs civil rights. on the whole i think they are doing a good job, with these isolated incidents is what makes the news. >> you mentioned black lives

matter in your opening statement. what would you do as president to help address this issue of mistrust between law enforcement communities of color? >> i do support black lives matter. i also support global police. but there seem to be real problems, at least in terms of silence, the code of the defensiveness among police about this issue that needs to be addressed. muched to talk about better training of police, and how to deal with these crisis situations. problem,f there is a if somebody does something wrong, others in the organization need to point that out. they need to come forward, they can be criticized. to work someo try kind of understanding between

all parties involved. police often try to do great work with people to keep them out of jail. we need to have a new criminal justice system where we are reducing the vast numbers of people in jail. >> next question. john? -- this weeko know is the anniversary of the road v wade decision. i'd like to get a discussion going possibly about what restrictions you feel should be abortion, and, whether you in nominating a supreme court justice would use that issue as what's known as a litmus test. >> softball question, abortion? that all you got? first day in office, i would immediately get the fbi on the

strategy. on abortion, i think it fits very squarely in what i call the pyramid of shame. a $17 trillion debt is sitting at the top, all the big issues , thinkingout something will be considered in our government and doesn't happen. essentially, while we spend all of our time in government trying to pit one side against the other, finding a way to dislike each other, nothing is considered, nothing is done. i think abortion is squarely in the middle of one of those things that essentially will never be considered, much less have anything move forward in congress, which are the people who would have to move first. when it comes to appointing supreme court justices, i would sit on the democratic side. i would certainly appoint someone who believed in a woman's right to choose. but that is why these

fixitamerica.org constitutional amendment matters. degree and masters am a democrat, but i would not take away a woman's right to choose in that situation. a good roe v wade was don't think it supports abortion after the first trimester. the interesting thing is how do republicans view this issue, and we have had 24, 25 years of republican presidents, and what has any of it done since roe v wade was passed? what have any of those presidents done to change roe v wade? they just use it as an issue to attract christian votes. we have that to get to a point where we are not using that

issue as a litmus test.i would not use it as a litmus test. pro-lifehe only democrat in this race and i don't know of anybody else who considers themselves pro-life who believes in roe v wade was well reasoned. we are living in a country where abortions take race day after day after day, and one fact to refer back to -- it has in fact paved the way for second trimester abortions third trimester abortions. a live in a country where fully viable child can be taken from his mother's womb, except for the head, and the surgeon can go in and section of the brain and, in certain states, under the roe v wade concept, that is legal. i am pro-life. nobody who thinks that roe v wade was well reasoned is

pro-life. >> misser. french. >> house republicans would qualify themselves is pro-life, and most of women's rights. but i think nobody in this room would say abortion is a wonderful procedure. what we need to do is to make sure that women don't get pregnant in the first place. there are a lot of women who do get pregnant because they cannot afford birth control. one of the things we should make available is free birth control to anyone who cannot afford it. we have also developed a birth control for men, so they can avoid making babies. i think it started at the beginning, avoid the decision totally about having an abortion. >> we just saw a debate in washington about whether or not the federal government should be giving money to planned parenthood.

is there anybody on the stated she would side with the republicans who want to defund planned parenthood? i have eight children, four children that were aborted. naturally i have a certain special issue on this particular thing. the principle of abortion because i think human life is sacred. not for religious reasons. i would put the emphasis on encouraging adoption. there are so many people who want to adopt children, and if we facilitate that, we could be alternative. prevention, i think most unwanted pregnancies are had by

young, relevantly uneducated women. fathered by relatively uneducated young men. to reallyolution is make sure that all our boys and girls get a truly good education. if there focuses on learning and going to university and having a professional career, they will not end up with unwanted pregnancies. >> -- mentionedal people have the federal deficit. but do a union member, some government benefits have to go before we get the balance sheets in order? >> what benefits are you talking about? >> retirement benefits, health care benefits. >> the benefits are in place that should stay in place.

if anything should be cut it is the military budget. they are using it to fight the cold war. there is no cold war anymore. the benefits in place should not be cut. retirement -- i don't see the need to cut any of those benefits. >> would you he in favor of raising the retirement age? >> no. no, no. >> mr. stewart. >> we have to cut them. it is immoral not to. if you keep pensions going at this rate, it's grandchildren who are suffering. they can pay off the kind of pension debt that elders have incurred. we intended pensions to help retirees whose life expectancy than was 67, two years after retirement. if you are retiring at 62 and

and you are, expecting younger generations to take care of you, it doesn't work. the numbers don't come close to adding up. it is an immoral act for government to take money from generations unborn that can vote in favor of it. i'm a democrat in favor of radically reducing government spending across-the-board, except in military, environment -- >> you raise this issue in your opening statement -- if you can make sure to have the microphone -- >> i do favor an increase in the medicare tax. i would suggest 1%. but social security, you don't have to raise the tax. if you raise the retirement age for the cost of living increases you used to

different formula, with the consumer price index -1%, and you coulde believe -- bring social security into solvency. i don't think we need to increase the tax for social security, and i would not cut social security benefits because our elderly depend on them so much. as greatoblem is not as people think. if we would simply raise the age for medicare and social security eligibility by three months every year, we would solve our basic problems with medicare and social security. if you went out among people in america, even people nearing the et al. thange, the price of saving the program for future generations was a three-month increase in the minimum wage for social security , they would be the first ones

to tell you do it. know, everybody says we don't have the money -- that is not the issue. we do have the money. we need a full employment economy. we can pay for the things that we need. social security, pensions. europe does it. social democracy does it. it's not a question of we have have the money -- we are the richest country in the world. the problem is the 1% are hoarding the wealth. we can pay for these things -- we don't have to take a backseat on these issues. we can take care of our own people. >> next question. you talk about the groups in indonesia. is going to be pushing congress to pass the transpacific partnership, a

major trade deal with pacific rim countries. what is your position on that trade bill? as we are concerned with the middle east we are ignoring interest in the pacific. china is the offending empire, as well as the defending empire. the president's trade deal is a strategic move to reassert our evidence. china wishes to dominate. way of creating a set of allies that are in liberating the pacific from the chinese influence. it is the kind of strategic move that has long-term implications and the president is wisely

pursuing. >> what do you think of the trade deal, and what are your concerns about what is impacted beyond american workers? >> it will devastate american workers. if you go to the afl-cio s come outrump as comha against it. it will take tens of thousands of jobs away from americans, and i am against it. i don't see any reason to sign that. it's not worth it. >> are there any trade deals you consider yourself -- are you a free trader? >> no. >> john, and for you, for mr. adams. i brought this up earlier and i like to hear from the democratic side. you are here and we are happy to have you, the what has to happen

in this country to allow someone like yourself to get on the so-called mainstage? what kind of reform needs to be done in an election system? doing it to, for instance, have public financing? are there some other options where the average person can get to the level where hillary clinton and bernie sanders are? >> thanks for the question. i do think we have to have campaign-finance reform. have to level the playing field. new hampshire really plays a critical role in allowing outsider candidates to express their views. there is no reason that any one or two of the candidates at the table right now couldn't jump into the top tier. although we do need campaign-finance reform, we have to level the playing field. citizens united is not a good thing for democracy.

we don't want to have an entire government for sale. that is my opinion on that. to answer the other question -- on my first day in the white house, i would cut student loan interest rates across the board. with our national debt, you can give everyone free college, but you can cut interest rates and help people in a way that makes sense. what would be your answer to john's question about what would propel you into the top tier? way, i happen to be a well-known person in certain fields. it's a game of chess. i'm synonymous with chess. i'm one of the best players of chinese chess. i also play thai chess at the world championship level.

world who canhe play the game knows my name, and i can get into a debate with hillary i am sure she can beat her. she is a great candidate, and she will be elected, but if i could get into a debate against her i think i could win. but that is not going to happen. spent a year prior to this fix it america thing to try to get something on television. putlaim to fame is that i it on television. forayt as the next big into something called born to run. you will see it. we got close to selling it. you would have had two people in the primaries, the american idol of politics in the new hampshire primary.

there would have been one democrat and one republican that would have been brought by television to the forefront. up inason i offer that support is when you look at the chance of fitting in the system and making it so hard to get in, something like that is going to happen. it is going to be a disruptor that has nothing to do with the system, and it will change it for good. that is not done -- we still have it in the -- >> mr. french. >> >> mr. french? >> one of the things i've learned is how expensive it is to get on the ballot in each of the 50 states. i understand georgia is free. everyone else is more expensive. you have signature requirements. to run on the ballot in all of the states, at least $1 million, which most of us don't have for that purpose. >> one more thing, which is the

real problem for all of us is that we do not get the media exposure. there is something called the 1934 whichons act of actually requires all of the broadcast media to provide equal access to all of the candidates with some very specific exceptions. but with all due respect to the , if yourom wmur categorize the number of minutes that hillary clinton appears on and you categorize the number of minutes that all of us appear together, she would vastly outweigh us. if that communications act was actually enforced, and the particular, the broadcast media was required to provide access to everyone who is on the ballot not equal for everybody, but reasonable access, that would go a long way towards broadening the process, not only in new hampshire, but every state.

john's would you say to question about how to get into the top tier? >> media access would be the answer. if we would have the opportunity tv on a on national regular broadcast, if it was just two minutes, we would get a better opportunity for the no who we are just people to know who we are good -- opportunity for people to know who we are. the excellent way of doing -- new hampshire has an next and wife doing this. $50,000, if you did it for all 50 states, but some states are incredibly far beyond that. tobecomes very difficult mount any kind of effective campaign over the entire nation. >> want to go back to mr.

steinberg. >> nobody here has been on the ballot in london for a five different states -- in more than four or five different states except for rocky de la fuente. i don't even know the guy, but i do know he is a multimillionaire committee is in many different states and he can afford to run a campaign, and we say we support rocky bellefonte, i think he will shake things up. he is on the ballot and martin o'malley is an good when ross perot ran in 1992, he shook things up. maybe that is what it takes for all of us, take one of us who is on the ballot and this may be on the ballot in 50 states, let's support them, maybe he will take all of our ideas and we will work as a team and we will be the lesser-known candidates for president. >> let's have another question for mr. hutton. >> we're talking about access

right now, and i can't help but note there is all men on stage tonight good what will you do to make sure all americans are included in the political process? >> i noticed that as well. awards ande academy the importante, thing in a political system is that we try to be as open as possible to write now we have is a set up that discourages people, one, because of money. you mentioned donald trump and ross perot, but they have millions of dollars. i think we have to go out and seek people to join us. all the people, getting them involved, having lots of boys and girls involved in that? how about getting all of the

state senators from state delegates, inviting them to the party? we need to make an outreach effort that includes everybody. l? mr. wei oh, i thought you had your hand up that you wanted to address the question as well. if you have something on the question john asked, you are welcome to do that. >> what was the question against? >> how about i asked another question. the supreme court taking the constitution nationality of president obama's deferral for so-called dreamers. if the supreme court were to strike down the program, what would you do to address parents of so-called dreamers, and on the issue more broadly of illegal immigration? >> on immigration, it has been

the backbone of our society since the formation of this country. it has been very trying to watch ,r. trump make fun of mexicans violating our constitution by saying he is going to discriminate against those limbs -- against muslims and not let them in. it is probably the saddest chapter in our country that this is going on. get i would try to do is the support of congress passed legislation that would reform our immigration system and make it such that this country opens which haso immigrants made us strong. the facts are that immigrants are model citizen, and the rhetoric we have heard from mr. mark is probably blackest in this country in a long, long time. being a jewish man, it is very distressing to me when you start

with mexicans and you go to muslims. historically it all comes back down. to think that anyone group is better than another is just a crime -- >> thank you. mr. de la fuente, who are from san diego, very near the border. how would you address this issue of immigration? >> the mexican border, 1954 miles long. 3344 kilometers long could what happens to alaska? what happens to the pacific coast? what happens to florida? only going to put up walls, are we going to create the chinese wallow over again? it did not work in china. the berlin wall did not work in berlin. need to locate -- we need to look at a logical thing that will work it the chinese have had a problem.

i don't know if you have been. i been good it is the weakest link. we would not be able to put the wall in the middle of the river. if you put it in the river, it becomes a dam. if you want to attack china can just come by boat through the river. >> what would you do on this issue of illegal immigration? >> i think that one thing that immigrationes me is of people who don't embrace our values. i don't understand why any person would want to immigrate into the united states if they did not love our values and share our values. allow anyould not foreigner to immigrate to the united states unless it were very clear that they embraced our values, specifically human rights and equal rights, and

nondiscrimination on the basis of religion. i think that is very important. we should make this a public it is not acceptable for anybody to immigrate to the united states unless they embrace our values. >> another question, unless you want answer this one. >> well, i do. i think the problem is the relationship between the supply of productive labor and the gold at his accomplished. what we are neglecting his influence of productivity. between the 1930's and today, labor productivity has increased four times. this has had a strange effect on the economy, because the agricultural progress,

mainstream manufacturing production get the angle -- can be handled much more easily now than before. what we have is creative ways to testze the labor city that the excess labor capacity --to utilize the excess labor capacity. in criminal justice and so forth, we engage in a lot of enterprises now that are not necessary. we have to somehow get productivity and production back states. >> mr. sloan? the only person on my street born in the united states. as big a bridges, and work with immigrants all the time. the guy five blocks down the street, the police thought he was a burglar so the shot him 17

times. that is measured on lack rights -- black rights. this guy's name was amadou d iallo. recently cannot open our doors to everybody who comes here. we have got to have some control over the borders can even of people in my neighborhood predominately did come here illegally, i think, but nevertheless, they are here, good citizens, no problem with them at all, i never had trouble with them myself. we just cannot open the reporters -- open the borders. >> president obama could run constitutionally for the term as president, would you support him? raise your hand if you would support him. those of you who did not raise your hand -- mr. lipscomb, why not? >> i just think two terms is good. eat, but two terms

for anybody. have ae said before, we president who essentially continued the george bush record in terms of war. we have had growth at 2% had we had black people and white people in each other's throats in this country, as one of the other people mentioned earlier. us is a failed presidency. presidency. failed we need to have somebody new, somebody who can take us in different directions. the affordable care act just coming in to the huge disaster to it will be bankrupt in the end of the year. you know what is going to happen this year? all the poor people who did not sign up for obamacare as they were required to, they are going to be fined $1000 each. you know how those fines are going to be collected? poor people get their tax refunds. they rely on those tax refunds to pay the bills.

and those tax refunds are going to be confiscated by the irs. going to be a complete disaster. >> we will move on to our closing statements. everyone will have a minute for closing statements. one last question from john could start with mr. o'donnell with that question. the new hampshire primary and are now a national candidate you are on the main stage with bernie on your left and hillary on your right. you do something that we do here at our local debates. we have candidates ask each other questions in an attempt to differentiate themselves could what question would you ask hillary and what question would you ask bernie? >> well i will be honest with you, i'm in favor of every elected official in the united states leaving public office now. i think we have to start the .hole government over again and i'm proposing a constitutional convention in

williamsburg, virginia, 100 citizens, 2 from each state, and not all college professors. and start the whole government over again. it does not work. i don't even want to acknowledge the existence of this current crop. i think they need to get out, all of them. >> sir? >> i would like to basically make a comment. foremost we have a master chess player behind us. when you play chess community when6, 7 moves ahead -- you play chess, you have to look 6, 7 moves ahead good we need to move forward. in new hampshire you have to qualify in each individual state . the rules are prohibitive. the rules and alabama, first state, arkansas, the second stay -- every state is complex.

it is very difficult to qualify in the states. the question is, the chances of anybody making it through this pack, even if they happen to be sitting next to hillary, mathematically it is not possible, because you have to be on the ballots. people have to have the right to vote for you. i believe i have done the basic thing. at least let's give the people the option to say my name or have me as an alternative. >> mr. >> i have asked bernie sanders and his supporters, socialists, why can't he be content with socialism in your own enclave? 100,000 burlingtoners who want to do retirement that way, education their way -- i as a libertarian don't have a problem with that. 100,000 people can find

economically their system. it is when they tried to foist it on everybody else, it is often rail and it will never pass. a liberty minded person -- i am one, rand paul on the other side -- would allow it. i have a socialist best friend, even though i think they are wayward. i would let them try it and let the if there enclave is indeed happier, more prosperous than a more liberty-minded enclave. socialistsly allowed who don't foisted on others to try it and see. will. elbot, and then we get to our closing siemens. >> fisa between bernie -- if i sent between bernie and hillary. hillary is by far the most competent candidate on either

side in either party, within the existing paradigm. we in this unique election have this guy called bernie sanders, who is quite a unique figure, who in the past could never get within striking distance of the white house. i believe that anybody really wants change, he is the candidate that can operate outside of the existing paradigm, introduce innovative ideas, and operate from a deep compassion that i believe he has, and i believe this country needs, both to heal, as well as to find a new vigor and a new sense of destiny of this country. because of his unique role in this campaign, and his unique status, anybody who supported me and any person that i have managed to convince to be interested in me, i would like amthrow my support, for i

bernie sanders in this campaign. >> thank you all for participating in this debate tonight. we are more or less on time, but in order to make sure we get everybody to have a one-minute closing statement, we will cut off questions that could we will begin with mr. weil. i would like to i would like to thank bill garner for running the secretary of state's office and making us all feel like we belong here in new hampshire. important that this nation understand the reason we are where we are is our congress decided we would make a massive transfer of wealth to the wealthy. we cut taxes from 70% down to 30, we got it out treasury we gutted our ability to educate, feet, and give health care to all of our people. until we decide to get together, register to vote, and throughout and vote for people -- go out

and vote for people who will believe in them as people and not serve the wealthy, who really do not need any help, then we are going to be in a world of hurt. we need to elect people who will fight for the people and not just for the wealthy. >> thank you. mr. steinberg. >> on the former chair of the county democratic executive committee. the most important job you can --politics is be a precinct you young people out here, joint euro local democrat -- join your local democratic executive committee. become a precinct man or woman. it is important you get democrats elected at the city council level, county commission level. those are going to be a future leaders, your future presidents. in theust get involved presidential election.

get involved in the local election, the state election. the involved, become educated, don't be ignorant. whossage to people t are listening -- in 2000, outdoor lost by 537 votes in florida. gore lost by 537 votes in florida. if we had 537 more people voting, al gore would be president. get involved. sonnino. >> you mentioned a supreme court justice, and for me, it would be to recognize the death penalty is unconstitutional because it is cruel and unusual punishment. never to come with many failing public schools, at least in new york, and in many other major cities. i volunteered to teach a couple of courses in them and i realized what the problem was. number one, there is no discipline imposed in the classroom. there is no institutional discipline.

practically no homework is assigned. and third point is that a lot of these students need individual tutoring and mentoring. we want to get rid of poverty, we have to make sure we find a way to get every child well educated. the last one is to greatly reduce recidivism -- amongst criminals. we must have real rehabilitation programs, educational and psychological come in prisons. >> mr. sloan? >> three things i didn't a chance to say is number one, we must reinstate the estate tax. 40%, it was abolished by george w. bush. the first thing he did to protect his billionaire friends. that is why we have all these billionaires because they don't have to pay taxes like the rockefellers. we have got to bring back that

estate tax. even the children of rich people still have to work. number two, everybody can have a drivers license if they know how to drive. a lot of people are driving without life is they can't get one because they are illegally here. regardless of whether they are legally here, they should be allowed to have a license if they can drive a car. the third thing is everybody should be -- they should give all these illegal immigrants an id and fingerprint him so at least we know who they are. we say we have 11 million illegal immigrants but we have no idea. to get someot handle on how many people we have got in this country coul. >> mr. schwass, qnx. environment,eat on if we don't save the natural

world, i don't think we deserve to be here. how we can claim to be moral. let me conclude by saying that in this age of war and present for this-- prejudice and will sayess i something. i love jesus but i'm not a christian. i believe mohammed was a great prophet of god but not the last. i believe buddha was a great teacher. god, allah,words -- jehovah, yahweh, people of the book, buddha, the sun and the moon, the earth and the sky. all of the same, all are one. thank you. >> mr. o'donnell. wrote toohn adams

thomas jefferson and he said "if there is no literal heaven, the entire bible must be torn up." jefferson wrote back and said, "yes, john, the existence of a god of love presumes a literal place where family and friends will live together forever in happiness and healing." love people come help people, you get into heaven. heaven is like a perfect day at the beach in the summer, like that business club at the nashua radisson. help people, love people, and focus on heaven. >> thank you. mr. moroz. >> i would say save the middle class, vote for raymond. if you don't vote for raymond, vote for bernie sanders. >> mr. mcgaughey. if you can make sure to have the

microphone in front of you when you speak. >> well, this is going to be a very important election. i think my two favorite candidates are bernie sanders and donald trump. in a practicales sense. part of the problem is we can't really talk about things anymore . there is a politics of hate and despise each other, criminalization, too many people in prison. i'm focusing on white people, who are the majority population in america. there is a legacy of shame in which leads to debilitation. we really need to hold our ,eaders to a higher standard both are political and business leaders. we are being misled. just to do anything, to march, to stand up, to participate in an election -- this could be a

wonderful year. it could be a wonderful year if the right people are elected. i'm proud to be part of the process, and thank you for inviting me and others to participate. are next.itt, you >> for those who think that isis is not a threat, the reminded that hitler started off with a bunch of unemployed drugs in a munich re are all -- drunks in a hall.to think that bullets and bombs will fix the problem is not true. we are fighting the same theology or similar theology that the composition used to fly s usedmerican-- kamikaze to fly into american targets with the hope that just by killing americans they would go to heaven. know isant to you to that we have a lot of problem, from drug abuse, from real

unemployment, and that we need to deal with them in a logical manner, and deal with them one piece at a time. i can work with republicans. new hampshire, vote for robert lovitt. >> mr. lipscomb, you are next. professor at dartmouth was an extraordinary representation of this state and group very near here. -- grew up very near here. his memoir, "the unzipped mind," is a great inspiration. i will suggest that you go to merica.org, that you dare to unzip your mind, to think that perhaps what we need to do is tinker with the system, something we can actually do, go to our representatives, get them

to sign up for something that truly changes the equation. when money and gerrymandering, out of the process, and they are reasonably gone, you have a chance to get to the issues that all of these well-meaning wonderful candidates in front of you have described tonight. thank you, new hampshire, so much for making this forum available to us all. >> mr. kelso. >> i want to thank the state of new hampshire and the panel for conducting this tree is really the first time i've been able to get on television, and if you want to see more about lloyd elso.com, andlloydk also on facebook, lloyd kelso for facebook 2016. i was forth among democrats in facebook social media following and should have been in the debates in my opinion, certainly had more than lincoln chafee and jim webb come and they both made

the stage. letters to debbie wasserman schultz and she wanted to make sure i wasn't on the debate stage, because when he came to the other categories in the polling, we had about 15%, and i was probably 2% or 3% of that 15% and stilted and make the debate stage. i've been endorsed by the democratic liberty caucus. i stand for trying to help with the isis situation. and i'm feeling like my believe, of your that stands for your security and protecting america and americans here at home and abroad. >> mr. hutton, you are next. >> i would like to thank everyone at saint anselm for having us here this evening. we hear all the time now that our children aren't going to have the same opportunities that those of us on the stage have had. it is more than just a shame, it is a disgrace. and it needs to be changed. we are the best nation, the greatest nation in the world, and we can change this outcome if we stop stealing from our

children. that means we pay and balance the budget and pay for the governmental services we consume now, and we take steps to give our children a better opportunity through education, specifically i would support expanding aid to our community colleges. i went to a community college. to give them the opportunity to have their dreams come true like we have had an opportunity. thank you very much. >> thank you. rounding third and heading to how good >> i would like to speak directly to new hampshire democratic voters. withu are not satisfied hillary clinton and bernie sanders, you still have an opportunity to do something critically important in this election. the deaths of 58 million babies in the united states are the predominant moral crime of our population. i'm the pro-life candidate in this race. i'm endorsed democrats for life,

the most prominent pro-life democrats. let the record show once again that there will be 3500, 3500 innocent 25,000 this week. 100,000 this month. our constitution, or religious tradition, our humanity calls upon all of us to do what we can to right this wrong. stand with martin luther king, john kennedy, bobby kennedy, and i believe a majority of democrats. please vote pro-life in this primary. get a show of hands, please raise your hand if you think there is something that you could do better