the most prominent pro-life democrats. let the record show once again that there will be 3500, 3500 innocent 25,000 this week. 100,000 this month. our constitution, or religious tradition, our humanity calls upon all of us to do what we can to right this wrong. stand with martin luther king, john kennedy, bobby kennedy, and i believe a majority of democrats. please vote pro-life in this primary. get a show of hands, please raise your hand if you think there is something -- i'mu could do better

seeing a good number of hands. served anytime you expand the power of congress. it doeswhat crammed president obama and most progressives want to do. it may be that they want more power. listen to the who havef my party feel good things, but don't do good. black lives matter, black education matters, we need a more responsible government. electedrnie sanders is and the congress is supportive

and the top tax rate goes to 90%, are top business executives will make a million dollars, for example, will be looking at of $100,000 ine the united states, versus going to another country and having half a million income. companies -- the nation will become poor. keepmigration, we need to the good ones, those who were hurt working and get rid of the bad ones. in terms of online, that i spoke about in my opening remarks, the college system of lectures has ofn around since the time saint anselm, and some of it is good, but it is old technology.

the bottom line is new technology. it's very expensive, but we can gain a lot from it. >> make sure you are speaking into the microphone. anselm,one at saint when you come to visit come you get to stay in the lincoln bedroom. the ideas are what is important. i like solving problems wholesale. america needs a national service corps. i call it innovation core that -- everyovation american sentences gives to their country two years. that would solve the problem about the white cop in the black child. it is hard to hate each other when you live in the same barracks as the guys who swims across the rio grande. they understand each other.

one of the things i would advocate from day one is a national citizen corps call the innovation core that we use new technology to solve actual inner, andour towns, even internationally. democracy, andep everybody participating in our country can contribute to solving the problems. that is what i represent. i'm not important. >> thank you very much. my second last name is alexander. my great came on the mayflower from england. from france.r came the other one came from spain. basically started the revolution with handle alexander.

we talked about the homeless. nobody talks about the homeless. least 50% ofuce at the homeless across the streets. no way talks about our air, the environment. nobody talks about jobs. before.g to start thank you for mentioning the environment. i have been fighting for the environment for 20 years, starting in southwestern new mexico in 1996 and 1998. i would also like to take a minute, a moment of silence for glenn frey of the eagles. short, but i did want to take that moment. he died of rheumatoid arthritis

and ulcerative colitis. i think it is abhorrent that we can spend more than a trillion dollars going to war in iraq and we can spend 10%, 5% of that researching diseases, trying to cure diseases. why is there no cure for rheumatoid arthritis or ulcerative colitis? glenn frey did not have to die. why we have a country that is not focused on things that really matter to people, focused oncuring diseases, focused advancing science, making sure that her children have better opportunities than we did, making sure the environment is a and clean for them. coming, they queue secretary gardner, god bless new hampshire and the united states of america. night. >> let's get around the applause for our democratic candidates. if i can thank my panel mates and for your time

keeping the time and doing a great job with it. to the audience watching here at saint anselm and on c-span as the, and thank you to secretary of state's office. thank you and good night. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> c-span takes you on the road to the white house. access to the candidates at town hall meetings, speeches, rally, and meet and greet. we are taking your comments on twitter, facebook, and by phone. always, every campaign events we cover is available on our website, www.c-span.org.

c-span with live coverage of two of the democratic candidates, senator bernie sanders holds a town hall meeting and will burrow, this evening. we will have live coverage beginning at 7:00 eastern. hillary clinton lb in iowa city. that is scheduled to begin tonight at 8:30. >> at nytimes.com, this is the headline -- alarmed clinton supporters are focusing on sanders's socialist edge. joining us is jonathan martin, national political correspondent for the new york times. thank you for being with us. we heard this from clinton surrogates, talking about this socialist moniker for senator sanders. what is this about and what is the strategy? >> i think they want to remind democratic primary voters in

iowa and new hampshire that they are not just registering their views on politics today, they are not just indicating that they have been more motivated, but they are going to be taking -- picking the next commander in chief. and they want to make the case that senator sanders, while he has a compelling message, is somebody who will have a hard time winning the general election and will also hurt the parties down ballot. the word socialism has certain connotations. especially for older voters. that is why they are doing it. it would not be doing it if he was sailing into iowa or new hampshire, but she is having real problems and they're trying to find creative ways to take down mr. sanders. >> we saw that in the latest poll numbers and an almost 30 point lead by senator sanders. one sentence from your peers

-- from your piece said he is looking less like a threat and more like a runaway train. >> i think the new hampshire league may not be that big. [indiscernible] there are young people, but you can stomach to losses out of new hampshire. i think the clinton folks put almost all their effort into pulling a winning iowa. >> we are talking about electability from the clinton people, and a sanders consultant says this is a debate between a candidate who inspires younger people, bernie sanders. >> that is right. it sounds very familiar. he is making the case that hillary is using an outdated playbook, summer around the

-- swimming around the edges of suburban voters, and that that is not the way to win. in a polarized country, you have to turn out people who are sympathetic to you and to vote. by the way, for your listeners, if that sounds familiar, there is a reason. ted cruz is doing that with the gop nomination. >> this is not the race the team expected before the iowa and new hampshire. >> money, endorsements, a sense that it was her turn. it has not been anywhere near where the expected it to be. this has been a dogfight against someone who nobody that would be a serious contender, let alone a threat to win the first two

states. it is a great reminder that this year, everything has sort of been unpredictable. as the saying goes, [indiscernible] in the cycle certainly has. >> with regard to hillary clinton, her candidacy, and her own appeal or lack thereof to voters, jonathan martin, what is the problem? >> i talked to one long-term advisor of secretary clinton and this person said she has done everything right, policy papers, , putting her message of where she is, better organized, running more of a grassroots campaign, closer to voters in iowa, has moved up on cultural issues where democrats

are now, and it has not mattered. it is remarkable. you cannot point to one big issue that has hurt her. the e-mail story did not hurt last year, but democrats did not show any concern about that. they have questions about hillary and they are more excited about bernie sanders. that is tough to grapple with and harder to fix. >> let me ask you about the third candidate, governor martin o'malley, who is back in new hampshire later this week. he has not moved beyond single digits. does he pose any threat at all why has he not been able to resonate among voters? >> i think it is because of that bernie sanders phase. if you are looking for the clinton alternative, you are probably on the left side of the spectrum. and martin o'malley looks the part of conventional politics, he has the resume of conventional politics, a two-time governor, straight out

of maryland, and he has not tapped into a moment of anger and another demand for the threat of the status quo that bernie sanders represents. >> we will look for your reporting online and in the newspaper. jonathan martin, in manchester, new hampshire, thank you. >> as i have been watching the campaign this year, it is so much more interesting to look at that republicans than the democratic side, and that may have something to do with why there is more interest in these candidates and the books. >> sunday night on "q&a," a nonfiction book critic for "the washington post" discusses books written by the candidates. >> everyone does have interesting stories in their life. and politicians, who are so single-minded in this pursuit of

power and ideology could cap -- could have particularly interesting ones, but when they put out these memoirs, they are sanitized. they are vetted, they are therefore minimum controversy. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q&a." >> the countdown is on, and as we approach the iowa caucuses, we are really the only place where you can watch these events unfold as they happen. whether it's a campaign rally, house party, town hall meeting, covering a policy speech, nobody else is going to give you get unfiltered look at the candidates as they worked the voters andalk to make the best sales pitch. we will be crisscrossing iowa to the next couple of days leading up to the caucuses.

we will be covering all of the democratic and republican candidates and keep an eye on what happens on caucus night itself. we are the only network that will actually take you to the republican and democratic candidates. if you ever wonder how it all happens, watch c-span. from thel hear now lesser-known gop candidates vying for the 2016 nomination. we will show you as much of this as we can before live coverage of bernie sanders in new hampshire, scheduled for 7:00 eastern. [applause] i want to thank secretary of state bill gardner and his direct -- terrific staff for the opportunity to join on what is a great night. i want to set the record straight tonight, this is not

the happy hour, not the undercard debate. this is a uniquely new hampshire opportunity for all the themselvesto put forward to the highest office in theyand, to explain why think they are the best candidate to be president of the united states. this year we have 58 candidates on the ballot, the second-most in a presidential primary in the state since 1992. we will have a chance tonight to hear from some of them about their views on the issues. i'll introduce the panel that will help me ask questions of the candidates tonight. >> a reporter for abc radio, where he won the edward r. murrow award. [applause]

face,e have a familiar john to stay so, a political reporter for w him you are -- four wmur. he began as a reporter for the union leader. know he will bring great taste to the discussion tonight. last but not least, a former thirty-year new hampshire state representative and state senator. he has been involved in every new hampshire primary since 1960 the greatollowing in tradition of the author of the primary law in new hampshire. helped write the law that has guaranteed the secretary of

state has at his discretion the ability to set the primary seven days are for before any similar election. thank you all for joining me tonight. [applause] linelan is to go down the and ask each of the candidates questions. you will have one minute to answer. the timekeeper will let you know when you have 30 seconds left and a red card when it is time to finish up. we will get through as many rounds of questions as we can. stephen from massachusetts, walter from sunnyside, new york, andy martin from manchester, new hampshire and joey from boston, massachusetts. these are the republican lesser-known candidates tonight. everyone please give them a round of applause. [applause] we will begin with opening statements.

>> i want to recognize this college because i'm going to be chief editory the of the student paper. ,hat really impressed me because the power of this country is with the young people. it's not so much about our futures, but there's. it's very important. i've been doing investigations in washington for over 30 years. at 1:00 in the afternoon after , i'm going to get more traits whenever misinformation out.

i'm not too impressed with the national media. i want you to remember this website, www.s tephencomleysr.com. you will see youtube's on there ump. mr. tr they've had evidence for 140 days about unsafe conditions across the country. my family is in the nursing home profession. i had a resident in my home that was paralyzed and after getting national media attention, the nuclear regulatory association, the director wrote to me and told me to leave the paralyzed herdents behind and give

iodine to be administered by a volunteer. first responders, we've heard a lot about responders. gag order there is a on the new hampshire national guard. >> were going to try to make fair met -- make sure we are fair to all the candidates. mr. cook, you have your two minutes for opening statements. involved. to get thank you. cook: my name is tim cook, and i'm running for president. in case you are wondering, i use the android. i'm a fellow of the north carolina institute of political leadership and i understand here it is all about politics. book, tobby you have a

make men free. they say america is the land of the free. i'm here to take you that is simply not true. women are not made to cover their faces. children are not told who they can marry. then why are we told who we can vote for president? someone is cherry picking the candidates for voters, and that is not american. the president should be elected and not selected. there's a very good chance that abraham lincoln today would not make the cut, and then where would we be? it's all about money. if you have money to pay for your own private polls and horror polling company, it's a pretty good bet they are going to include you in the public goals. themselvesstates

restrict ballot access from candidates. 20-25% of votes in past election, you may be excluded from state ballots unless you are a millionaire. i guess the constitution only applies to some, not all. >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i was born in brooklyn, spent some time on long island, and came back to queens. i traveled a lot to go cross-country skiing. the people of new hampshire are independent. they are able to make their own decisions. this is the year when people are seriously looking at other candidates and not career politicians. i endorse the feeling that new

hampshire and iowa has and i asked for your vote for president of the united states. >> next up, mr. martin. mr. martin: i want to thank the college for sponsoring this event and i would like to thank the audience for coming out on a brisk january evening. my name is andy martin and i'm also celebrating a 100 year anniversary this year. in 1916, my mother's parents, my grandparents immigrated to manchester from greece. my mother and my oracle graduated from the university of new hampshire and my grandfather was a small businessman in what was then the sort of ethnic lake neighborhood on avenue. as a boy in the 1950's, i caught the tail in that immigrant experience. while i am a conservative when it comes to lawful immigration and fighting illegal immigration, i also have a tremendous sympathy for an connection with the immigrant

experience. i am also a little unusual in that i am the only candidate better known or lesser-known who has actually lived overseas in china in 2003 and iraq, knows the arab world, has spoken the hasl languages, and predicted with rather devastating understanding what was going to happen and what we go wrong in what could go right. today our politics unfortunately is not informed by experience or knowledge. threected a man two or elections ago who had never left the country except as a tourist and did not know anything about .he foreign world i'm somebody who has been fighting corruption in the political system since i went to capitol hill 51 years ago, and i worked for senator paul douglas, who was a corruption fighter. it was then a vastly more corrupt bureaucracy that it is

today. i'm very proud to be here to present my qualifications and participate in the primary and to do honor to the great democracy which my grandparents enjoyed when they came here 100 years ago in 1916. thank you. >> in watching the politicians on television, it's quite that if any of them knows what our problems are, none of them have a clue how to solve them. i'm the only candidate who knows how to solve our major problems of unemployment, terrorism, immigration, and government debt. i can take you that these problems can be easily solved once we rescind the epa were successful in destroying our economy. betweenent litigation the epa and volkswagen proves

that the epa knows that natural gas emissions of nitric acid are the most polluting and industrial emissions of sulfuric , whilee the second worse coal emissions are in fact the cleanest of all emissions. in order to favor the oil and gas interest which fueled terrorism and favoring the japanese carmakers over our own carmakers. we should open up our coal sources in the 26 states that have coal in quantity and we should be using that coal not only to fuel our industrial borders, but to manufacture gasoline. south africa has been doing it since 1957. this will not only end -- we will use profit-sharing plans to make sure that the quality of the work is good.

you will either vote to continue the epa regulations with bankrupt america, or you will vote with me to break the middle-class employment that will restore america. again, we will allow each of you questions one by one, you will have one minute to respond. will reserver, i the right to ask a follow-up question if i feel there is an opportunity to do so. why don't we get the questions underway. held. cook, since we last a debate, this country has seen tens of thousands of gun deaths from several mass shootings in schools. what needs to be done to prevent more of them? cook: i'm a proponent of the second amendment. we need to look at the violence

on television, the violence in mentalames, and also the health field. as far as the second amendment, for the first 150 years >> the last 40 years, there have been more and more gun laws. there are six million reasons in europe that we should have gun laws. thank you. >> thank you, mr. cook. the next question will be for andy martin. >> mr. martin, following up on that, when we have a terrorist incident, mass shooting of any kind, from newtown to san bernardino, the debate turns at least from the white house to the second amendment. are there any restrictions that you find sensible that have been suggested by the president that should be imposed on gun

ownership or available weapons and do you agree with the president's executive action to close so-called gun show loopholes? >> to answer the gun show answer first, no. actually, i agree with, of all people, bernie sanders. bernie sanders represents vermont and i'm actually doing a story about how hillary clinton shot herself in the foot by attacking him for gun control and bernie's argument on the debate side. i do occasionally watch the democratic debates, has been we have to sit down and see if we can work out sinceable accommodations. the problem we have with president obama is it's impossible to know whatever makes sense and what doesn't because whatever he says polarizes the nation. in his own way, bernie sanders is making sense when he says,

look, i live in vermont as a socialist. he doesn't support gun controls of a stribblingter nature. >> thank you, mr. martin. in 2013, the senate detected the proposal that would have expanded background check requirements to all gun purchases, including those at gun shoals. senator shaheen of new hampshire supported that what would your vote have been? >> well, i don't think you need a machine gun to kill a rabbit but i do respect people's rights to have a gun. you know what's wrong right now with the terrorists going on? none of the press and none of the politicians are asking why so many people in other countries hate us. now, i was out to chattanooga when the marines were killed and i've had armed forces come to me

and say we understand that you protect informants. we're going to give you some information that the american people should know about but you can't give up ouritis. i said of course not. if you let me, i will. if i give up your name, i'm out of business. they told me the obama administration and past administrations have helped promote people to sign up for isis. i said why do you feel that way? all the bombs and chemical war far -- warfare that were given to the iraq president, saddam hussein -- >> tough. thank you for your answer. >> therm given to military companies. that's why a lot of other countries hate us. we have to find out why they hate us. until we do, we can't stop the terrorists, and they're going to

come. >> that question will be for mr. -- >> you mentioned nanches's live free or die attitude. should the government be smaller hahn than it is today and if so, how would you balance that with the needs of everyday americans? >> government should be smaller. it should be smart. technology has to be used to make the people we protect more first quarter. there has to be smart technology used to protect the people. i propose using smart repry to enhance the availability of weapons for legal ownership. the smart weapons will prevent people from accidentally shooting other people. there are other issues that you have to deal with. look at the amount of money and these constant terror threats are draining away our resources. we have to somehow remove this

constant drain from us and we can't count on the police being there when something happens. i was attacked by seven men -- i didn't have a weapon. so these things have to be protected by the second amendment. >> thank you. john, the next question to mr. robinson. >> i'm going to stay with that topic. as president, how would you propose protecting our schoolchildren and our college campuses in an effort to be sure there's no more sandy hooks or community college in oregon. some say there could be restrictions on gun ownership, others say there could be more guns. there should be armed officers, retired policemen in the schools. >> it would take much longer than 60 seconds to answer your questions request -- question. i've given it a lot of thought.

believe it or not, one of my concepts would be to legalize tie -- pirate bay. what it allows people to do is to take down all types of computer programs and movies and videos and whatnot without paying for it. now, if you think about it, what s a person using a gun responsible? the answer is you have two things. what's the concept to -- of an accessory to a crime. by legalizing priority bay, you take all these people in the video and movie business and computer programming business who like guns and you'll see it from a much different point of view. >> thank you. we're discussing the second amendment, a right that americans hold dear. the next president will likely have an appointment tot supreme court. why don't we go down the line and each of you name a supreme

court justice that you consider a model of the kind of justice you would like to appoint if you have the opportunity to do so. >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear that question. >> what would be a supreme court justice current or former that woulded, you would consider a model for the kind of justice you would appoint? >> i still don't catch it. i'm sorry. >> why don't we go this way. what qualifications in a supreme court nominee would you consider? >> well, i'll tell you, i took a major in accounting and business in college and i know how to add. one-and-one make two nor three, like congress thinks. there's so much on the backs of e working people -- i mean every illegal alien that comes into this country and refugees, the working person has to pay

for them and we have to eliminate these programs and the only reason why we have so many illegal aliens is because we don't enforce the law. if we'd enforce the law when the first one came in he wouldn't be here. we don't need to build a wall. we need to bring the soldiers back because we can't afford anymore to police all these countries. i feel for my grandchildren. are they going to be able to have a house? i'll tell you will right now, i'm the only candidate that has the qualifications to turn washington upside down and i can do it. >> thank you, mr. comley. mr. cook, the supreme court question. >> ideally i'd like to have someone that models thomas jefferson and for freedom. i think of chief justice roberts right now, someone along that caliber is who i would like to nominate to the supreme court. i think he would be a good --

someone similar. >> i think i want to focus on ethics in the judiciary. i'm having a lot of problems with judges who are ignoring acts and making orders and judicial judgments based on bias. so i think that's a big issue. we have to tackle the bias in the courts and in the federal courts, there's really no remedy to remove a justice at this point so maybe some kind of legislation to enable that feature to eliminate a justice. >> thank you. mr. martin? >> president reagan appointed the first woman to the supreme court and i'm a little embarrassed to say i can't remember her name right now. sandra day o'connor, thank you. i thought she was a very effective justice because she came out of the political process. she's she'd been a state senator

in arizona and she understood the complexes of the different branses. yes, she was a swing judge but balanced. y bans we need to work towards sloughs and nod -- not towards inflaming people. >> thank you, mr. martin, and mr. robinson? >> the justice who i admired the most was the supreme court justice luis brandeis and to me the most famous statement he made was democracy can only exist when we have a majority of the middle class. which we no longer have because of our enormous problem of unemployment and underemployment. on the other hand if we look at justice robins, he made an enormous mistake. he took his job as an

adjudicator and decided he was going to be a legislator. that is totally unacceptable and not even legal. we have to get people who understand the difference between the two. the e.p.a. so clearly delin yates that what've is delineation and adjudication and that's what we need. >> thank you. we'll begin our second round of questions. >> over the last few months, foreign policy have become wasn't of the most important issues to the american voter. what would be your chief policies? >> i helped in the haitian arthquake situation. we provided as much assistance as we could. i tried to negotiate the reopening of three hospitals to

handle the injured but politics being what they were i was told once they get here how do we get rid of them? my concern was their health and safety. the same issues are being replicated around the world. there's terrorism, people are being displaced. those are the issues we have to deal with. we have to somehow get a grasp on these people who are being forced out of their homes and provide them with a way to stay there, to protect themselves and fight off these forces which are forcing them to move. i don't want to be in that situation so we need to work together to make the world a safer place. tothank you, and the next qu mr. martin from john. >> thank you. i'd like to get everyone's opinion on it. secretary of state john kerry says that "the world is safer today because of the iranian

nuclear deal." and he said it accelerated the release of the five american prisoners who had been held in iran. do you agree or disagree with that statement and why? >> i disagree with it and actually, my experience is unique. i was in iran in 1979 after the hostages were taken and i was back in iran alone in 1980 so i actually dealt with the iranians person to person alone in that country and i managed to get along with them. my problem with what secretary kerry did and what the president did is that i believed they were too anxious for a deal and as a result i think, frankly, that donald trump has the better of the argument when he says they negotiated a bad deal. they're not good negotiators. i think we could have done a better deal, i think we should have and i'm concerned that we

may not be safer. today as i was woman coming over here to this meet -- -- coming over here to many competing, they took thousands of candidates off the ballot in iran. that's not a democracy. it's still a very dangerous and unsteebable theocracy and i'm not sure we can trust them. >> mr. robinson? >> first of all, we need a strong military because evil has no respect for weakness. number two, in the year 2010, the european court of human rights, there was a question that took place in cyprus and the muslims are the people who proposed and the court agreed with them that in the case of the christian greeks who were forced out of their homes in the turkish section of cyprus was -- were not entitled to go back to their homes but they were entitled to compensation.

i think all we have to do is take that human rights court decision and put it together and be very frank about solving the israeli-arab problem and you'll find a lot of peace in this world. the one thing that we accomplished with iran and we made much closer friends between saudi arabia and zreal. >> same question? >> i'm not favorable of the deal. in fact, iran, the muslim israel.nt hates the deal will help enable them to get nuclear weapons, but yet our own government wants to disarm the citizens. that simply doesn't make sense. iran is one of the largest state sponsors of terrorism. as a result of america with the deal that makes america the largest state sponsor of terrorism by funding iran.

that's wrong. deal? comley on the iran >> he knows my family. i don't agree with the deal because he was going the reverse direction in 1941, pearl harbor, we lost 200 soldiers. 9/11 we lost 3,000 people and i have information that was ginn to me by insiders inside the nuclear regulatory commission 300,000 eatens citizens in massachusetts and beyond. i watched the pbs documentary the other night on bombs. do you know that we have 60,000 nuclear warheads and we tell iran they can't have one? do you think that's going to sell? that's not going to sell. we should take the leadership in disarming nuclear weapons. we should do it and if we don't,

-- keep ng to have giving the terrorists -- we have to take the lead in disarmament. if we don't we're going to have a nuclear disaster in this furyk a lot worse than cheapa or -- i don't agree with kerry, no. he's going in the reverse direction. >> answer on the iran deal? >> yes and no. yes, it's good to get americans released. no because it's dangerously close to paying for the hostages. those are my concerns. as a world trade center family member and a first responder, i'm also concerned about the judgments that were placed against iran. it's a very complicated issue. i don't have all the

information. i would have to see if we're making real progress with bringing iran into the world community and from that i would have to make my decision. >> thank you. >> staying on foreign policy, i'll pose this question to you, mr. robinson. president obama has said he will present to congress this year a plan to close the detention center at guantanamo bay. in congress doesn't act he's said he's considering using his executive order to do so what would you do with the center at guantanamo? >> we know that president obama has issued more executive orders than any president before him. that means he's a dictator -- dictator, not a president. he said he was going to close guantanamo bay and obviously he hasn't. i think that's a perfect li good example of somebody who's decided to be a dictator and not a president.

>> how many of you would keep the detention center open? >> i would put hillary clinton will will. -- there. >> would you close it down? >> we're going through a process where we're bringing cuba into the world community so i think i'd have to see what happens with that meshing of cuba with . e rest of the -- has . comley, mr. martin brought up donald trump and donald trump seems to fundamentally change the nature of the republican rails. what's your take on mr. trump and the policies he's raised, particularly immigration if -- immigration? -- r. donald trump, i think his poll numbers are up there because in america the people are very angry about what's

going on in washington. immigration, you know -- if they're illegal and they have a record, we're going to send them back in a cab. and every illegal alien that's in the country right now has got to be held accountable from the time they broke the law. either they have to pay a lot more taxes or they're going to keep coming here. you have to enforce the laws. and we aren't doing it. the bible says law is the law of heaven. we got chaos in this country. it's a mess. we have to fix it. we have to be involved. we just can't complain about it. the working person, i don't know how they're doing. and we have to rescue them. and i got informants coming to me on every issue. it's not just nuclear. i got medicaid fraud coming to

me. obamacare is going to destroy the quality of care that hospitals and nursing homes are able to deliver because the refugees -- >> we're going to have to move on. >> workers are going to pay for all that. >> mr. martin, why don't you go ahead. >> i've had a unique relationship with donald trump. shortly after he married his first wife, he wanted to move into my building and i was on the board of directors of the building where he wanted to move and normally i used to approve the contracts as i was in the building during the day so i like to tease and say i'm the only person that's ever said you're hired to donald trump because i approved his lease. also, i was an informal advisor on trump tower. on balance, i think his impact

has been positive. he brings an incredible amount of energy. threatens the established order and all of those are good. we have an encrusted bureaucracy, political, republicans, democrats. both parties are corrupt. it's not just the democrats, it's not just the republicans. trump has pluses and minuses but on balance i think he's been a tremendously positive force in this election. >> thank you. mr. robinson, some republicans say if donald trump was the nominee you -- they wouldn't support him. would you? >> i would like to know who the democrat is before i would answer that. i thought you were going to ask me about the situation on immigration in general and if i may respond to that as well. my father, sisters and brothers, my four grandparents were all immigrants. people are immigrants for two reasons. they're looking for work and looking to live in a democratic society. therefore, what we have to do is there is plenty of room for them

in this country. we have to realize how do we employ them with decent major jobs and how do we give them the opportunity to be legal just like my father and grandparents did. my father came from ireland so when i was born in boston, i was not only a citizen of the u.s. but a citizen of ireland as well. that's what i-want to do. i want to cut out all this unemployment we have in country, which is the real problem. convert to it sole and i have three other properties of employing people. i have to stop. >> the next question from john. >> i'm going to stay with that because mr. trump has been accused sometimes of going overboard. not only by democrats but by some in his own party, especially when he post office -- proposed a temporary ban of allowing people of muslim faith into the united states.

do you feel that that's a legitimate response to some of the situation this is country has been faced with over the last couple of months? >> well, i think that isis does pose a real threat. also, i don't want to exclude anybody solely on their religious beliefs but you have to wonder is islam really a religion or is it -- more of -- the nazis believed that not aim was also a religion. but from certain areas of the word i would restrict muslims from entering. i would not take the syrian refugee. if america wants to contribute, let them go somewhere else. why can't we send them to another country that's willing, but an outright ban -- no. >> the same question. people want to

move to safety. that they choose places to come based on their needs. there are lots of ways to mmigrate to the united states. [indiscernible] in come together united states they're able to get visas to come here. there are lots of ways to bring people here. there are lots of ways to protect ours from these radicals and that's what they are, a group of radicals which are offending everybody's standards of decency and they just can't be tolerated. we need to take a stand against these radicals, not against if entire population. i think we need to be charitable in our giving of [indiscernible] >> mr. martin, one of the things that donald trump has recently contributed to the dialogue is questioning whether senator ted

cruz is counties constitutionally eligible to be president of the united states. what are your thoughts on that question? >> i have to keep an open mind because i'm having a forum next weekend and i've written to senator cruz and asked for documentation. you have to balance the intent of the founding fathers with the power of the people in this room and in in this nation to interpret the constitution for our own needs and times. i'm clear that the founders intended for that natural born citizen clause to have a retraintive view but i'm also clear that society has basically loosened those requirements. i think it's a debatable question where mr. cruz falls. i was involved in the obama dispute and created it perhaps. obama had two of the three qualifications. he was born here and his mother was an american. he lacked one. cruz has only one of them, the mother. he was born in canada and his

father was cuban so it's a tough question and that's why i'm sponsor sponsorsing a conference to get people a chance to talk. i have an open mind on it but i think it's a legitimate question and i think whether you're a conservative or a liberal scholar, they agree it's a point of reasonable debate and discussion. >> a show of hands, who thinks that ted cruz is not constitutionally eligible to be president of the united states? just mr. robinson. mr. robinson, would you support a constitutional amendment to strike the natural born citizen clause? >> it is true that it is restrictive. we remember when mr. mccain was running for president. he was born in the panama canal zone because his father was in the military. obviously a person who is in the military, you cannot in any way restrict that person from running for president of the united states. if question is whether or not

someone born in canada, as you say, born outside the united states where one parent was an american citizen, the person got american citizenship through his mother. so was he born an american citizen? yes, and what does the constitution have to say about that >> next question for mr. k -- comley. >> massachusetts and new hampshire are going through drug epidemics. since two years ago drug deaths in new hampshire have doubled. what would you do as president to stem the tide? >> on drugs? >> yes. >> force a law. our kids have got a lot of temptations. we don't need families agreeing drugs in the back yard. we don't need it. we need to enforce the law and the price of freedom -- you know, the statue of liberty is out there. you can't discriminate from people coming in here but if you enforce the law -- the price of

freedom, we have the k.k.k. still here and we got muslims coming in here. you enforce the law when you break it, that's what you do and we have to learn to live on this planet in a safe way. and you have to enforce the law in order for that to happen. we wouldn't have the 12 million illegal aliens if he had enforced the law in the beginning. but we're not. what do we do with rapists? send them to prison for five years and we let them out for good behavior. that woman or man is going to live with that the rest of his life, or her life. we don't have enough prisons because we don't enforce the law. >> thank you. we should probably hear from all the candidates. let's go down the row. >> my view is this. as president, the united states

constitution establishes powers for the federal government. what is not for the federal government falls back to the states. the federal government in think view is to protect the citizens of the united states from foreign powers spa as well as enemies foreign and domestic, which we do have enemies from within. i also think, as well as -- time is almost up but basically it's a states rights issue. to negotiate trade deals and protect national interests. that is a state right and individual states should handle it. >> what would you do is a president to help address the heroin epidemic? >> it's a medical issue. i'm a nurse. i was trained as a nurse paratieser. i would have to say it has to be a medical issue that is resolved

with that issue. the second part of that is that illicit drugs generates illicit cash, which is used around the world for terrorism or for criminal activity. somehow we have to grasp this extra money being derived by criminals selling heroin ell illegally and maybe there's a process we can do with treatment -- getting some kind of lint of these products, like tobacco, like alcohol. they all have issues, medical sish chews and people should be treated to relieve these -- [indiscernible] >> mr. martin, the same question to you? >> if i was the president, the first thing i would do is declare the war against drugs over. it's been a failure. that was one war we don't have to negotiate a peace treaty for.

secondly, i would acknowledge that, at least in new hampshire, as i walk down highway three opposing a local transmission line, the northern pass, i saw hopelessly derelict homes. i saw people that were unemployed that are living on assistance. i saw factories across the connecticut river that had been closed and in vermont, they exported the jobs and i believe that economic urgency and economic failure and economic precious creates the conditions where people will will turn to drugs. so a strong academy would have a helpful bulwark. i don't want to call it a stathes right issue but i think a president can also use the bully pulpit to encourage the states to balance compassion with law enforcement. there has to be balance and that's what we lack today. >> and mr. robinson? >> we know that 40% of white males have a police record by age 23.

a lot of this, of course, is drugs. why are they dealing in drugs? because they're unemployed. there is no decent middle class employment in country. we have over 30% unemployed. we have another 30% that are underemployed and that's why people turn to drugs to make a living. because they want to eat, pay the rent and whatever their expenses are. we have to create honest employment with middle class wages and that's what i'm talking about from day one. that will solve motives your problems. >> thank you. john, you'll have -- ask the next question. mr. cook. >> switching gears, mr. cook, a little bit. throughout -- on new hampshire's airwaves are ads, ads, and more ads. not only from candidates and super pacs. of course a lot of that was spurred by the citizens united

decision in 2010. do you believe in that ruling as pacx and superpacs have show ght as anyone to their political preferences. as some say this need to be reined in and restricted? >> i think there needs to be a ot done as far as the f.c.c. regulations to how campaigns are allowed to broadcast, especially some of free publicity that's allowed some candidates but not allowed to other candidates. as far as some of these superpacs. recently got an email for which i was -- which i thought was carly for america and it ended up being not affiliated to a candidate. some of these are making people think they're donating to a

particular candidate and that's wrong. they need to identify themselves but i think it's an individual's right that they can pay for anything they want, whether they're a group of individuals or a political candidate for an ad. called for - mley better politics in this country in his state of the union address. what would you like to see done if you were president of the united states, to reform the political system in this country? >> the only way you're going to reform the political corruption in washington is for the people to get involved and rise up in a peaceful way. but they have to make their -- they have to get involved and they have to make their voice heard. as far as -- you know, both parties -- you know, they keep -- they're in charge and we let them in charge and we complained

for years ago. -- about. it's not going to change. together we can repair america. we really can but you have to get involved. you know, i don't have the money to finance the tv stations, that's for sure and my single mother never gave me a million dollars for a grub steak. but you know, i'm the only candidate running right now that has all the qualifications to turn washington upside down. nd i'm going to do it. raleigh is the on the town in the united states that got 08% of the town on a petition to investigate the n. rrment -- n.r.c. you know what mr. reagan did? he wouldn't see me. >> we're talking about the political process. how many of the members of this panel have run for anyoffs before -- office before in your

life? how many have run for president of the united states before this year? ok. >> i'd just like to ask real quick since we're on this topic, does anyone support the concept of public financing, which may even the playing field. public financing. taxpayer funding of election, of candidates? does anyone see that as a viable alternative? >> john, as a constitutional expert, i can tell you we are in a straitjacket because of the first amendment. states have a lot more freedom. there are states that engage in public financing because they're not bound by that first amendment. i don't know the answer to your question and i don't know that a better system necessarily can be produced. the only thing that troubles me about the existing system -- and of course i watch your tv station every night.

it's a necessity. and you look at these ads and it says vote for this guy. citizens for good works, you know, and the committee for babies and puppies and we think marco rubio is a bad guy. what the supreme court left open in citizens united was disclosure laws and full disclosure and i think that's where we have to start but we cannot make progress as long as we have chief executives who hate politics and hate people. that was obama's weakness. sorry to say it's also mrs. clinton's. i think trump could actually get people to talk. >> as far as the public fansing, i do see public financing as a possible viable alternative. what i really see in a presidential election now when you have all the public detectives. the candidates with all the money, yeah, they spend their money advertising and putting on tv ads.

but people can see the news, they can watch the debates. you need to have a better road to have better access to the debates. we need to have a better way, like if the f.c.c. can have an individual poll to qualify you or the secretary of state have a poll where the voters can qualify and use that as well as the current apologies to see who qualifies for the detective, instead of the current cherry picking to see who's allowed to be on tv and if you're on tv you get more support and money. therefore, if you're not included in the polls nobody gets a chance to see you and that's not fair. i honestly think if i was on the polls, i. be in a debate. >> thank you very much. anyone else want to talk about public financing who hasn't? >> the government right now yost over $17 trillion. we're bankrupt. if we were to pay off the

day. pal at $1 million -- it would take 50,000 years to pay that dealt. 50,000 years. the debt is unbelievable. what we have to do is to start paying off that dealt so our grandchildren and great grandchildren don't pay it, number one, and number two so the foreigners -- because a lot of this money we owe to the japanese and saudis and chinese. they're going to foreclose on it. therefore, the only way to do it is to.com private enterprise employing lots of people, paying the middle class wages -- i'm sorry, through profit sharing and taipei the taxes. also, if you're a government employee and your tax is being withheld, there's no reason to file an income tax return. we can get rid of 50,000 on out

of the 80,000 who work for the i.r.s. let's cut down on expenses and find out how we're going to cut taxes. >> we should -- to help finance the deaf sympathy. >> we should put them to work and let their taxes pay off the debt. that's exactly what i'm saying. you're not going to throw them out of the country. >> in a recent debate ted cruz values and g u.s. trump had an answer. what do you consider new york values? >> we're friendly. we'll show you a good time. that's what new york is about. actually, that's what the united states is all about. let's all invite people here as tourists and ade to our economy. >> next question, mr. martin. >> mr. martin, we've been talking about the cost of campaigning but i want to talk about the cost of college.

there are several students here. what should be done to keep college tuition costs down? >> well, i know what can't be done and that's to accept simplistic solutions like the democrats are saying, the so-called mitt romney free stuff approach. we have to work on cutting some of the overhead. when i went to school at the university of illinois, and i was a football player so we had more benefits. we ate pressed turkey and a slice of lettuce and that tomato looked like it had been sitting around in the refrigerator for a couple of days. we didn't have fancy dorms and all this today the college experience has become like luxury living. that's why it's so expensive. we have to figure out about whether we want to have people who have experience and get an education and don't want to be in a four-star hotel whileware there. survived nicely on turkey and

jell-o. as a matter of fact, i went home for home coming and these were barracks. today they're building high-rise luxury places for the students. of course that costs money. the experience has radically changed since i went to college. >> the cost of college has become such a major issue in this campaign. mr. comley, what would your first step be as president to address the colleges? >> when i went to college, i was working three days a week in a serial factory from 6:30 at night until 6:30 in the morning and then i'd go to class at 7:00. i think people shower should be working because education is not free, just like health care. it's not free. i think that -- the gentleman just talked about the high-rises

and whatnot. there's a way to cut costs in colleges. administrations and what north but you have to focus on it and the students should be working because that gives them experience in the working force does rtheastern college that. you can cut costs, for heaven's sakes. all you have to do, as an account ant, you can add and if you're getting abuse in it, you can find it if you want to look for it. college can be cheaper. it can, if you work on it and you focus on where you can cut costs. >> i'm actually a college student, by the way. i work in the company. for example, last year i essentially had three roles as a multinational commaunlt comma -- company. i was lab manager, company

manager and acting plant manager. >> c-span takes you live to wolfeboro, new hampshire, democratic presidential candidate and senator bernie sanders speak shortly. >> the main act will arrive. ok? we're just sort of warming you up. we get one vermonter after another here to sort of get you in the model because we know that there's nothing that people from new hampshire like more than having people from vice president come and tell them what to think about the world. it really is good to be here. now, i was in burlington on the day in june when bernie announced his candidacy. i got to introduce him then a little bit too and it was -- you know, it was bernie and it was the other two one-name vermonters. ben and jerry were on hand also and they introduced