that was economically organized around the interests of dults. it changed how i talked about this. mr. bush: it did not change my passion for disruption, because we need to disrupt as much as we can, reward the excellence that takes place, and have no tolerance for the mediocrity that takes place in classrooms. assume that students can learn. it does not matter what zip code they were born in, every kid can learn. we should not lower expectations because we will get a bad result. but it is hard in the federal system to make this a national priority. you would think everybody would consider this the right thing to do. i know that people move to florida now because our schools were significantly better than they were when i started. yes, sir. [applause] mr. bush: one other thing, people say, what about common core?

common core is on higher standards than those that existed in prior states. here's what i believe about common core. it should not be imposed by the federal government. there should be no requirements from the federal government on content curriculum or standards, directly or indirectly. [applause] mr. bush: someone is smoking in here. lighting up in the school. [laughter] >> how are you going to kill our country's debt by the time you are out of office? mr. bush: i don't know if i can kill the debt.

if you are looking for that, you are not going to find it. i will be honest with you. $19 trillion of debt, you can reduce the deficit to the point where our economy is growing and our debt remains static, which means that ultimately we will be solvent. that will be the objective. you can do that in eight years if you are serious. what is interesting, this is my fifth town hall meeting in a row where a child, a young, smart person, has asked me this question, or their dad, on behalf of their two sons. it is the right question to ask at your age, because if we don't do anything, the debt will overwhelm everything else. it is the number one national security issue. if you are concerned about the mentally ill, infrastructure, drug discovery, education. whatever the program is, the $19 trillion of debt and growing deficit is the biggest problem we face. so i appreciate the question. four things we could do to move toward a balanced budget -- high

growth. 4% growth compared to 2% growth. we will create more revenue because taxes are by prosperity, right? and less demands on government. secondly, we need to fix the entitlement programs. this is the time where i pull out the booklet. we have laid out specific proposals on how to preserve and protect social security for those who are counting on it now, and reforming it over a period of time make it solvent. same thing with replacing obamacare and replacing -- [applause] mr. bush: with a conservative -- [applause] mr. bush: same with medicare, to protect it so it will exist 10 years from now, because it won't. we need entitlement reform. we need career civil services reform, which means that the

overhead cost of government needs to shrink. it is hard to do that when you have protections. government workers make 40% more than their private sector counterparts for lifetime jobs. that is not fair. i think we need civil reform. and finally, we need to shift power back as -- i'm a 10th amendment guy. do you know what the 10th amendment is? have you studied that? >> no. [laughter] mr. bush: go look it up. it is an important one. it basically says that states have the power to govern, and if it is not empowered by the states, the federal government does not have the powers that they are given. we need to shift the power back to the states. much environmental policy should be given back to the states. if you talk about the moose policy, i am sure people here care more about that than the

people inside washington. those are the four things that get us closer to a balanced budget. but i think we need a balanced budget amendment to the constitution as well, which would require the states to convene that. [applause] mr. bush: yes. what does bdt mean? >> [inaudible] mr. bush: sounds like a good idea. >> definitely a good idea. my husband was diagnosed with colon cancer 20 years ago. my son was recently diagnosed with the precursor that will lead up to colon cancer, am only to have surgery in the future. what will you do for research to help prevent cancers, ms, all those other diseases that need more research?

mr. bush: there are a couple of places where i think we should be spending more money. for everything else, you have to figure out how to spend less. the place where we need just been more money is defense, national security. it is research and development for alternative energy sources and drug discovery. and space. because of national security. also, our country should be more aspirational. i think the space program symbolizes that, the technologies and discoveries that you can find in space have direct benefit for our country. but it also has a national security implication. the space program has been really good. those are the places we need to spend more money. as it relates to drug discovery, there have been big increases in the national institute of health. we need to restore those cuts. can we be more efficient?

yeah, because the cost is doubling like, every 10 years, and the time for drugs to be approved is also doubling. that cost is borne by all of us. apart from cancer, which my mom and dad had been actively involved in, the other places we need to spend money -- if you want a moonshot, a moonshot to the brain would be a nice place, to deal with addiction. why are some prone when others are not? what about alzheimer's and dementia? just a show of hands, people that you know, family members who have dementia. yeah it's -- [laughter] mr. bush: yeah, my mom in law is 94 years old, and she is just a total gift from god.

she has dementia. last time i saw her, she recognized me for the first time in 10 years. all of a sudden, she came back. when i get to miami eventually, she might not remember me again. it's a challenge. there are no new medications for dementia. how about autism? you take these issues for the brain, we are not advanced at all. all of these should be a commitment for sure, and i wish the boy well, and your husband. yes? [applause] >> thanks for talking with us tonight. the internet has become critical to both our economy, and also doing well in school. what i am wondering is what you would do as president to make sure that all americans have access to high-speed internet at an affordable cost in both rural and urban areas. mr. bush: the programs are

available. they can be reformed. there are proposals under way. when i was in the private sector and not unemployed and running for president -- [laughter] mr. bush: i was working on working with technology companies in california to dramatically expand broadband in schools. some states have done extraordinarily, others have lagged behind. it is uneven, to say the least. the national effort like this could be done without a massive cost. this is not the hardest thing in the world to do. but there has to be a strategy. you have to go at it. the effort that i saw that would be the most cost effective was one that was based in san francisco, where they had identified the shortfall. sometimes, you talk about broadband into the school, but they have identified that it has to get into the classroom as well. that extra 100 yards can be more expensive, but you can do this wirelessly.

you don't have to wire the classrooms again, and you can save a lot of money. what bothers me about the regulation of the internet is the obama administration's rule, using the law to regulate access to the internet. i think that will stymie the investment in broadband. this control orientation of washington is dangerous. the problem did not exist. they are regulating something that is now a problem. orientation is dangerous. yes, sir?

>> i would like to say hello to barbara bush. mr. bush: you want to come shake her hand first? >> i would like to ask a question. i worked for myself for 50 years. i'm still paying social security, taxes, and your talking about increasing the social security age. nobody is ever talking about taking from the government employees. when is somebody can start talking about that? [laughter] >> why should i pay taxes at 73 years old so somebody can retire at 55? [applause]

mr. bush: here is the answer to your question. this will be a fight. the castro brothers are not going to change because he obama administration has given them amnesty. iran will not change because we legitimize the regime. public unions will not give up what they have got without a fight. i will fight. [applause] mr. bush: in your case, what i propose that hopefully will warm your heart is that once you reach retirement age, which you

are way past. [laughter] mr. bush: you are working for business, right? you are self-employed. you pay the 13% or whatever payroll tax into the social security. [laughter] mr. bush: once you reach retirement age in my plan, you don't pay it. you keep it. you have already reached retirement age. [applause] mr. bush: one, helping you in the interim while we fight the public unions, which has to be done. just by attrition, the federal employee -- maybe because they retire early -- you can reduce the workforce by 10% just by not hiring new people, just by attrition.

a lot of the cost structure will go down as well, because this is not all performance-based. it is longevity based. you get more money by being there longer. you get better benefits by being there longer. i propose a three-for-one deal. you can reduce the government workforce by 10% if you can do that. [applause] >> hi, my name is james. i was wondering which are going to do on immigration. a lot of politicians have made that a big part of their campaign. some politicians don't have plans, but said they are going to build a wall and make mexico pay for it, are you talking about that plan? [laughter] mr. bush: that is not a plan. that is an emotion. that is appealing to people's legitimate anger. people are mad because the rule of law does not apply. i totally get it. we need a plan.

we don't need people preying on people's fears and anger. that does not solve the problem. [applause] mr. bush: any immigration plan requires controlling the border. period, over and out. there are two parts to that. half of the illegal immigrants come with a legal visa and overstay. a pretty extraordinary number if you think about it. not many people focus on this. exit exit o have entry visa biometrics, which the congress has funded and the administration has not implemented. you need additional administrative capacities to identify where these folks are so they can be politely asked her to leave. they have a six-month visa, they should go home. if they want to come back, they should get another visa. this is not that complicated. on the border, we should build additional fencing where appropriate. there are places on the border where if you build a wall, u.s. citizens would be on the other

side of the wall. that is not going to work. parts of our border are so rugged that you can't build a wall unless it was at an extraordinary cost. use gps technologies. there has been dramatic expansion of that technology. use drone technology. back to the public unions for one moment to make you feel even angrier about this, the border patrol has negotiated agreements that make it hard for forward leaning towards the border. we have border patrol agents 40 miles off the border. they are not on the border. unless someone can explain to me why that is a good strategy, changing that, so that we have more forward leaning nature. we can control the border. we need to create a strategy, invest in it, and act on it. we need to eliminate sanctuary cities. this insidious idea -- [applause] mr. bush: the federal laws ought to be upheld, plain and simple, particularly when by not doing

it you are endangering communities. in san francisco and many other cities, they are openly violating federal law because they can. that is just wrong. you can withhold federal law enforcement dollars. we need an e-verify program that is verifiable, so that when businesses hire someone they know they are here legally. we need to narrow the number of people coming by family from legal visa to spouse and minor children. today we have adult siblings and adult parents, and it is called chain migration. 85% of all legal immigrants come that way. it's not the most optimum way for us to jumpstart our economy. in fact immigration can be a , drain or it can be a contribution to our society. we should aspire to make a it a contribution, so changing that is part of it. [applause] mr. bush: and finally, the part that gets people all riled up is what do we do with the 12

million people here illegally. you can pound your chest or you want and say we are going to create an environment so bad for people that we create self deportation. i don't know how you target misery. >> make them a citizen. mr. bush: i will get to my plan here in a second. [laughter] mr. bush: or you can say we are going to deport them as one candidate says over two years, a half a million people. we have half a million people going through our court systems today across the country. it would double the number of people going through our court system. it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. i don't see that being practical. or you could say come out of the shadows, pay a fine, learn english work, don't receive , federal government assistance, no crimes or you are deported, and over an extended time, you earn legal status. you don't earn citizenship. legal status so that

you're not cutting in line. that to me is the conservative alternative, a practical conservative alternative they could be implemented, and that is what i believe and support. [applause] >> thank you for coming. i want to say that is my son connor. he is a huge fan. ask your question mom, and i'll do the signature -- >> you've touched on the lot of topics that are important to me, alzheimer's, disabilities increased cases of cancer and , things like that. i don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but i'm wondering that when you become president, what you will do to make sure our foods are labeled properly so that people who want to avoid genetically modified

foods? mr. bush: it is a good question. first of all, i'm guilty when i'm not home. i do the shopping. that has been broken since i haven't been back in three weeks. normally i go shopping and love to look at all the labeling. it has been an explosion of new things. this is one of the examples that -- if people decide to do something together, the government has to react and adjust. i sense just watching this new kind of explosion of organic foods and foods that have all these different variations in the industrial model we are used to do, i don't consider it a conspiracy at all. i think this is growing consumer awareness, and that will change our behaviors about how we go about this. the challenge, like everything, is how do we do this where working people can ask the

actually access the food? how do we do this so that it doesn't cost 30% more than the lower cost variation? the private sector will adjust and figure out ways to lower the cost, but i would not mandated because people are struggling right now. if you want to create more demands on government, we already have 47 million people receiving food stamps, from 20 million people to 47 million literally in 12 years. it has been an explosion. so anything you do to increase the man's on government because people can't afford what your mandate is, i would because his be cautious about that. i would be about increasing consumer awareness and health, exercise and food are the two things you can control to live a healthy lifestyle and not be sick. it is good for our economy when people aren't sick. it is good for your pocketbook when you are not sick or it it , is certainly good to have access to the kind of food that keeps you healthier. it really isn't a conspiracy. it is a growing movement i find really intriguing. yes?

you like that back there. >> thank you. first of all i want to thank , your mother for her early and unfailing support of family literacy. mr. bush: yeah. [laughter] and in turnand in tur i attended a conference this afternoon at the baptist church regarding addiction. i learned there that 40,000 people died last year of overdoses in this country. i practice in a very rural area in virginia where we have a tremendous problem with addiction, both illegal and prescription drugs. two companies have been heavily implicated in this problem. one of them is the manufacturer

oxycontin and they admitted they lied about the diction potential of their product and have pushed it on physicians and patients. this has been one of the major prescription drugs that have caused overdoses. i might add that of the three candidates i have heard, each of you have had a relative or friend who has been involved in drug addiction problems. even to the point of dying. one of my family members also died of a drug overdose last year. the second corporation that is implicated in this is a mega-bank, and they have admitted to laundering money for the drug cartels to the point where they actually modified their teller windows to accommodate the cash boxes of the cartel members. i think you know the name of the bank.

mr. bush: no, i don't. >> hsbc. mr. bush: i do. [laughter] >> nobody in any of these companies has gone to prison or been prosecuted. i think this reflects a wider problem of white-collar crime, and i'm wondering if you are going to appoint an attorney general and direct him or her to approach white-collar crime with the same seriousness and figure that they have approached the low-level drug prosecutions? mr. bush: that is a good question, both of those. [applause] mr. bush: the answer to that is, yes. to simplify this. here is another challenge for your profession. i have been told, and maybe you can confirm this, that 90% of all the painkillers prescribed in the world are prescribed in the united states. and so, put aside -- i don't know the name of the manufacturer of oxycontin. it is prescribed by doctor. the fda just to prove this last

year -- they allowed opiates to be prescribed for children. we have changed our attitudes about pain and how we have pain to the point where we have legitimized addictions that then create the escape into which now we see the heroin epidemic playing out. i think there needs to be a across-the-board review about how we deal with pain, how we deal with companies that are abusing whatever relationship they have, hsbc. if the executives of that company knowingly did this to profit, poisoning our communities, there should be more than just a civil penalty. there should be criminal violations, for sure. so are you aware -- am i close to that? this, imay add on to believe this also reflects the corrupting influence of lobbying and money in the political

process whereby these doctors -- mr. bush: doctors prescribing pain medication? >> absolutely. >> because these companies are allowed to send detailed people with very poor regulation -- they are allowed to pay physicians to give supposedly educational conferences to push their products. i mean it is a real problem. i think it just reflects the general corruption of the political process in this country. mr. bush: i would say that doctors have a disproportionate responsibility for this in that they don't have to prescribe. but they do. in amounts that are creating now this gate into heroin addiction that i think there should be growing awareness of. here is one solution. we should have prescription drug databases that are accessed, protecting privacy and all that, prescription drug databases that people can see, law enforcement can see -- we have it in florida, and we have seen a

dramatic reduction in doctor and pharmacy shopping. there are doctors getting reimbursed with medicaid that have 100 x more in prescriptions. then it gets in the market, and they sell these pills are great profit. there are ways to monitor this so that the isolated cases that create a disproportionate amount of the problem can be monitored as well. >> -- in most cases. mr. bush: in new hampshire you don't have it. >> -- living on a border, as i did, we weren't able to catch people who were crossing over. mr. bush: thank you. yes, ma'am. >> we have time for one more. mr. bush: hang on, we have got to -- >> i have been in medicine one way or another my whole life. mr. bush: yes ma'am. >> i am appalled at the allowance of the internet and

the tv advertising of prescription drugs. [applause] >> painkillers, prescription drugs of all kinds, promises made to patients, patients who go to the doctor put the doctor , on the spot. if he does not prescribe the patient, the drug company loses. they've got pressure on the doctor to use that drug. but the doctor doesn't really want to, but he is in a spot. what if the patient comes back to him and says, so and so took it and she is cured? why didn't you do it for me? and so the physician is caught between advertising -- mr. bush: that's a good point. >> i would like to see advertising of perception drugs eliminated. [applause] mr. bush: ok. that is a good point. all i know is that when i go see

my doctor, i don't convince him of anything. [laughter] mr. bush: he tells me what i'm doing wrong, and i am supposed to salute. one more. yes? welcome back. nice to see you. i've missed you. you know, i feel offended that you haven't come to any of my events recently. soon i can get a question. >> i were, too, man. [laughter] >> [indiscernible] mr. bush: he is a nice guy. he is unusual. [laughter] mr. bush: he is a good man. >> we talked a lot about domestic events, but i'm wondering about what you are going to do about the caliphate. i have heard that you are in favor of funding and arming the kurds. mr. bush: prior to the attacks in paris and san bernardino, so we will embed our troops inside

the iraqi military to give them training and a backbone because ultimately, when we leave, there needs to be a secure iraq without isis. we into reengage with the sunni tribal leaders that did create and partnership with american troops the search that led to a secure iraq. this is really damning when you consider the fact that there are multi layers of approvals for launching ordinances. half of the missions go back

without dropping their ordinances because they need additional approvals that i think are inappropriate, and so do the people who have advised me on this who understand how that part of the world works. we need a no-fly zone in syria and we need save zones in syria to protect the innocent people who are being starved to death by assad or being enslaved by isis. and people are uprooted. 4 million refugees have left the country and it creates instability for the world. we need to build a sunni-led army with arab financing and arab support and european support. ound thel bring ar end of isis. we need a stable and moderate

syria that will allow for this void to be filled once and for all with something more peaceful. militarily, but we never will unless we create the ultimate stability, which requires american leadership. this is the fallacy of the obama administration. partelief that we are all of the community of nations, that we will all thing " "kumbaya." no, we have to lead. no one else can do this. thank you very much and got bless you. [applause]

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>> governor bush has just finished his event, campaigning with his mother. we will talk to some people about their reactions. we will start with a reporter from the boston globe. it is down to the wire, obviously, for these candidates. what did you see tonight? >> there was a lots in the room. it is crunch time and if you have an asset, this is the time to use it. for governor bush, his asset is his family and his mother. >> was the tone any different with his mother there? when he called donald trump a name, he apologized to his mother. >> in comparison to how you have seen him before, he was more upbeat, a little more speaking

from the heart. there was more strength to what he had to say, more dedication and conviction in his voice. >> your colleagues tweeted that barbara bush is "beloved" and i am wondering how that will translate with the voters in the state next tuesday. is her presence enough to convince people to vote for him? >> that is what the strategists say and if you spoke to some people in the room tonight, they did not know she was going to be here and they were very excited. it was an added benefit for them and it showed them that the family support is pretty strong. they are fans of his father and brother and now, of his. >> what is his challenge over the next couple days to plays well in his primary? mentionnk you heard him it himself, in terms of getting people to commit. in terms of getting undecided voters to decide on him.

it comes down to the wire. it is pushing to get those folks to decide in his favor. >> if you were going to write tonight, what would your lead be? >> it is all about barbara bush tonight. >> the mood of this electorate is what as they go into the polls tuesday? > >> some people are angry, some people are frustrated. some are dispassionate and don't feel compelled to vote for anybody. they feel unenthusiastic. you pick a word, and i feel i have heard it to describe how people feel going into tuesday. >> everybody is hoping it does not snow next tuesday. we will be how this all turns out. thank you for your interpretation. >> thank you. >> we also will talk to some people in the room tonight. derek, is it? you are from london, how far away is that?

>> about 10 minutes away from here. >> why did you come tonight? >> i like to see all the candidates. such a large say in this process and i like seeing all the candidates. >> are you a registered democrat or republican? >> i am a registered republican. >> have you decided yet? >> i have a couple i am leaning towards. >> is governor bush in there? he is not one of my top three. jeb bush comes across as it in the center to me. he even said something today, yes, i am part of the establishment and that did not go across well with me. >> who is your top choice? >> ted cruz. >> why is that? >> he is a straight shooter. he will tell you what he thinks and he won't back down. in iowa, he was against the

ethanol mandate and he told them that and he still won. is the he conservative direction i would like to see this country go in. >> are you glad you came tonight? >> yes i am. i am fortunate enough to live in a state that gets such a big say in this process. >> are you from new hampshire, born and bred? >> i have lived here since 2008 and before that, i lived in a different state, not far. ever since i have been 18 i have voted in every election, local and national. >> thank you for talking to us. coming up next, we have a mother and son. what is your name? >> aiden. i'm 14. >> what did you think? >> i liked him. >> why? >> his idealism of taking down

isis, rather than president obama's weaving in the back. >> why does isis concern you? how old are you? concerns meand a because the freedom of them, they don't have as much freedom. if they come over here, we could lose our freedom. >> are you going to go out and convince people to go to the polls tuesday? yes. >> what are you going to say to them? >> vote for jeb bush. >> are you the mother? >> yes, i am. i didn't want him to miss the opportunity. it because of school? >> he wanted to learn about the candidates. it was not school involved at all. it was all him. >> what about your own interest?

do you know who you are voting for? >> no, i am still undecided. i did like what jeb bush had to say and that pushes me a little bit towards him. we have a few more days. >> what do you do for a living? >> i did data entry. >> how are you feeling about the economy right now? >> it is not in the greatest spot. it can get a lot better, but i think if we stay wi what we are doing nowth=, it is not going t. taxing former programs is not the answer. >> new hampshire has a lot of independence. your politics are firmly where? >> i am independent, but lean more toward the very conservative side. there is a lot of conservative stuff i really like. >> fiscal policy or social policy? >> a lot of the social policy. actually, all of it. there is so much that we are doing now that we know is not

working. these programs that give everything to everyone, they don't bring anyone up. from the bottom and bring up. we can't go from the top and push down, like a jeb bush said. forhat will tip the scale you and when will you make appear mind? >> i am going tomorrow night to see marco rubio and to see what he has to say. i will probably make up my mind at the polls, there is a very good chance. >> are you going to go to the marco rubio event, even though you support jeb bush? >> yes, because they want to see what he has to say. it might make a difference in my thoughts. >> thank you for talking to us. we are talking to people who have been to governor bush's event. what is your name? >> baron. >> are you here as a republican or independent? >> i consider myself a conservative.

i came to this rally two days after a trump rally and i was fascinated by how much momentum trump can bring to his rallies and it makes me wonder, if trump can run his rallies so smoothly, i wonder what he can do for our country. i came to the bush rally thinking, what can bush offer that trump can't? i felt like the people tonight listened to what he had to say, but they didn't hear anything. >> why did you come to that conclusion? >> we were not moved. i feel bush is caught up in a cycle of memorized lines. i want a leader that says more with his actions than through his words. --have the mid appear mind? have you made up your mind? towards trump.

he seems to be a leader who shows you who he is without these political lines, without any of this memorization. he seems to show you who he is and what he wants to do to work for this country in a meaningful way, and in sort of a truthful way. >> you might if i ask your age? >> i am 19. >> so, this is your first election? >> my sally and i have been coming to these rallies ever since 2008. -- my family and i have been coming to these rallies ever since 2008. we try to visit all the candidates. >> are you from new hampshire? >> i am from dallas, texas. my sisters actually go to school at harvard. we stayed there in travel to appear to new hampshire to see how human the candidates are. >> how many have you seen so far? >> we have seen about five, but intended to visit them all. >> thank you for talking to us

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support for bernie sanders. >> on your screen is manchester, new hampshire, the political center of the world this week. population 110,000. last night at the university of new hampshire a debate was held. bernie sanders and hillary clinton took part. one of the issues discussed was the definition of progressivism, what progressive means, and we want to hear from democrats only in this first section of "washington journal" this morning. democrats