proposal. ineas.est is maya macgu >> we have to also be very clear. especially with young people about what kind of government is going to do what for them and what it will cost. clinton, youetary are not in the white house yet. and let us be clear, that every proposal i have introduced has been faithful. ♪ host: that was a little bit from the democratic debate in milwaukee. we want to get your reactions from the debate last night, but also, the entire debate schedule. what have you learned from these

debates. if you are a republican. if you are a democrat. and 202-748-8002 if you are an independent. you can join the conversation on facebook at facebook.com/cspan. here are some of the comments i have already come in. michelle says, i learned more from the town hall formats. the debates are mostly candidates talking over each other and what they have to say amounts to not much more than a soundbite due to the limited amount of time they have to speak. and with the town halls, the average joe often ask questions the moderators don't ask. learned if a nation of 315 million can only put forth a communist, a known

criminal, and the keystone k ops as president, we are sunk. our elitist political ruling class has just about achieved what the communists have been trying to do for 100 years. person says, the debates are necessary if you have been paying attention to politics. if anything, they distort, not clarify. if you want to come in through the phone lines, 202 is the area code. 202-748-8001 four republicans, 202-748-8000 for democrats, and for independence. the headline is, minority voters a key bloc in democratic race. in her closing statement and without sanders having an opportunity to reply, clinton

opened a new argument, implying that sanders'focus on the corrupting influence of money in government is too limited. i am not a single issue candidate and i don't believe we live in a single issue country, clinton said. the debate probably changed few minds in the democratic race. nor did answer some of the key questions. for sanders, it is a question of whether he can expand his appeal from a largely white base of support and attract votes of african-americans and hispanics. for clinton, it is whether she can retool her message to counter the enthusiasm behind sanders' candidacy. among the sharpest exchanges came over the role of money in the political system, with clinton seeking to deflect criticism that she has benefited from contributions from wall street and financial institutions and a sanders suggesting that anyone who doesn't think big contributions influence government actions

isn't being realistic. this is from the state newspaper in south carolina. former president bush making south carolina campaign debut for brother next week. former president george w. bush will make his 2016 presidential campaign debut on monday in north charleston. the state newspaper has learned the bush brothers will appear at rally.6:00 p.m. jeb bush is hoping this will translate into a top-tier finish after spending much of the campaign behind the front runners. urged of the bush won the presidential primary -- george w. bush won the presidential primary. their father also won the palmetto state primary in 1988. radio and tv ads featuring george w. bush supporting his brother have started running in south carolina.

so, what have you learned from the debates? we want to hear your voices on this issue and we will begin with nathan. hello nathan, republican. caller: yeah, i am disappointed in bernie sanders. i am disappointed that people are saying that he is not the establishment candidate like trump. but he is because the first thing he did after new hampshire , his victory, where did he go? he went right to al sharpton to kiss his ring and to about to idealack caucus and the that the democratic party believes in hyphenated liberalism. i like what bernie has to say about the $15 an hour minimum wage.

as a republican, i would probably vote for trump, but i understand his idea. -- he't like what he could really make a lot of inroads if he said, come along everybody for this revolution, what ever race you are. caucus,to the black just like everybody else on the democrat side. >> this is peggy noonan's column in the wall street journal. they are thinking, let's take a chance. washington is incapable of reform or progress. it is time to reach outside. an oldake a chance on brooklyn socialist. let's take a chance on the casino developer who talks on tv . in doing so, they except a decline in traditional political standards, she writes. you don't have to have a history of political effectiveness anymore. you don't even have to run for office.

you are so weirdly outside the system, you may be what the system needs. they are putting their hope into uncertain vessels. bernie sanders is an actual radical. he would fundamentally change and economic systems that in perfectly, but for two centuries made america the wealthiest country in the history of the world. in the young his support is understandable. they have never been taught anything good about capitalism and in their lifetimes, have seen it do nothing to protect its own reputation. it is middle-aged sanders supporters who are more interesting. they know what they are turning their backs on. they know they are throwing in the towel. my guess is they are thinking something like, don't aim for great now. aim for safe. terrorism, a world turning upside down. my kids won't have it better. let's just try to be safe, more communal. the shrewdness in sanders and

trump backers. iny share one faith washington and that is in its ability to wear anything down. they think it will moderate bernie sanders, take the edges off trump. for this reason, they don't see their choices as a radical. on our independent line is tedla. caller: good morning. i want to say a few words about what you read now. bernie sanders is not asking to change america to china. the idea that he is a socialist disingenuous. he allowed her to portray herself as obama. she is not obama and she tried to accuse him that he was against obama, which he is not. that is not true. both of them did not answer one syria.n, the crisis in she was the one who was calling for a no-fly zone. but yesterday, she shut her

mouth and they are saying that, oh, the secretary is doing the job and let us do it. i am saying, the debates -- the hosts did not push my part of the debate. putrwise, she is trying to herself above. she wants to get the black vote. i don't think the black vote is going to be voting for her because the young blacks will most likely vote for bernie sanders. host: part of the debate last night was focused on race relations. >hillary clinton: now what we have to do is build on an honest conversation about where we go next. we have much more information about what must be done to fix our criminal justice system. we now have good models about how better to provide employment, housing, and education.

i think what president obama did was to exemplify the importance of this issue as our first african-american president and to address it. officeom the president's and through his advocacy, such as working with young men and mrs. obama's work with young women. but we can't rest. we have work to do. bernie sanders: instead of giving tax breaks to millionaires, we are going to create millions of jobs for low income kids so they are not hanging out on street corners. we are going to make sure those kids stay in school, or are able to get a college education. and i think when you give a low income kids, african american, white, latino kids, the opportunities to get their lives together, they are not going to end up in jail. they will end up in the productive economy. host: two articles from "the hill." a big endorsement coming from

south carolina. representative jim clyburn, the third ranking house democrat and a leading member of the congressional black caucus said thursday that he plans to endorse either secretary clinton or senator sanders before the palmetto state's february 27 vote. it will be after this weekend is what he told reporters in the capital. also from "the hill." the congressional black caucus endorsed telik clinton on thursday in a move that could onp the white house hopeful february 27 in the south carolina primary. the democratic primary is february 27 and the republican primary is a february 20. that is the same day as the democratic nevada caucuses. wyoming is on our democrats line. caller: i am just calling in

regards to hillary clinton. i think she is one of the most knowledgeable people in the world. trusted,een voted most most knowledgeable. concerning a mistake thing with computers, the e-mail, if she made a mistake, can you look at people who have never made a mistake? they usually are people who don't do anything. to obama,her loyalty she did not say she was obama. she was loyal to him. host: have you learned anything from the debates? caller: well, yes. that a reemphasized

74-year-old that just bloomed last year -- who knew who he was? who knew what he did? he has been there 25 years in one place or another. he is part of the establishment. when you are working for the government, senator or in congress, for 25 years and nobody knows what you have done -- he was a total unknown person. wyomingat was flo in and this was the "washington times" this morning. no more delay in clinton's e-mails, according to the judge. the judge has denied the request regarding her e-mails until the eve of the super tuesday primaries. issuing an order that on thursday that instead makes the administration have to release

the documents in four batches between now and the end of the month. as said 550ph conter pages must be released to the public by this saturday. then, the department must release more documents on february 19, february 26, and finally, on february 29, all of the remaining e-mails must be made public. thoug go ahead, ed. caller: i just want to explain to these younger people out there that haven't retired yet or are near retirement what is going to happen if bernie sanders gets in. ok? i'm almost in my 70's and i have worked all my life and i save money and i have been able to save up $100,000. now, i take that $100,000 and they go looking for the best thing i could do without losing my money. it is giving my money to the

bank, letting the bank of my money. for 11 months and put it in a cd. at the end of the 11 months, i will make 1%. 1% of $100,000 is only $20,000. the federal government will come in and get their split. so it only makes $700. with bernie sanders in there, he will take another $200 out of mind, leaving me with $500. $100,000't use my after 11 months i will get $500 because the bernie sanders? how am i supposed to -- in other words, what is the sense in trying to save anymore? host: who is your candidate right now? caller: donald trump because he is going to bring jobs back here and that is going to make the economy better and then i can go back to work again. host: this is paul from

sandwich, that th massachusetts. thank you, c-span. your question this morning, what have i learned from the debate? we have ae learned is incredibly corruptive news media in this country. as far as the debate last night with the democrats -- not one question was asked to hillary clinton about the fact that she is actually under fbi criminal investigation. and you know, that is amazing to me. so i gues s it was pbs. they are obviously favoring the democrats. as far as bernie sanders, he complains about billionaires getting away with not paying the right amount of taxes. i mean, i would ask bernie sanders, you know, senator

sanders how many spending bills have you voted for that has had billions and billions of dollars senator sanders? how do you explain that? but nobody has asked that question. to me it is obvious that the news media is just unbelievably corrupted in the way they conduct the debates versus the democrats, versus the republicans. that is what i have learned. int: now, we have larry fernando, mississippi. larry is a democrat. caller: good morning. obama does not get the credit that he is due for running this country. black people, we have been behind in this country for 400 years.

just because he became the president for eight years -- host: well, he is gone and we are going to move on to soanya in miami beach, florida. what have you learned from the debates? caller: they never get the tech questions. only the republicans. i am not loyal to any party. i consider myself independent, but there he conservative. what i like for in a -- what a look for in a candidate is how much they love this country. after having obama, who does not really love this country and is destroying this country, he has no reason to get into this job, but the love for his country and to take care of the disaster and the destruction we have been experiencing. host: who are you supporting

right now? caller: naturally, i am supporting donald trump for the only reason that i know he loves the country. he has to have the strength to fight for us. he has to take care of business and the government is like any other business. i think he will take care of us. he will take care of government's business. he will take care of isis and he loves this country. that is the most important thing. host: this is michael gerson who worked for george w. bush as a speechwriter. he is an op-ed columnist in "the washington post." the alpha male ascends. as donald trump's gop opponents descend on south carolina, they are running smack into a

phenomenon. in this state, trump is riding a wave of adulation more common with rock stars. his rally crowds run into the thousands -- some in excess of 10,000 -- with cars parked for miles down the sides of roads leading to the venues. south carolina lieutenant governor henry mcmaster, who recently endorsed trump, describes a woman waiting for eight hours without eating to keep her place in line. himear-old girls have sign things and they have tears in their eyes. aump is running exceptionallyn visceral campaign. his goal is not so much the inspiration of the country as the domination of the other candidates. it has generally worked. the respondent his attacks, hush

when he shush is them, and envy his huge poll numbers. everyone i spoke with in south carolina who was not paid by one of the candidates -- there are a few -- believes that trump will win. be now it seems trump will unstoppable in much of the south, the region that dominates the primary calendar through mid-march. mark in jacob, california -- mark in chico, california. what have you learned from the debates? caller: the republicans have not done anything but fight and the had pretty worthy questions, but what i would like to know is how we got into this -- um, you know . these delegates and

superdelegates, i thought this was one person, one vote. how do they get -- if bernie wins the state, delegates were superdelegates can vote any way they want. and take the state away from him. i think it is complete asinine that this country does it this way. we should just go with popular vote, whoever wins the popular vote, when's the state or wh atever. this is ridiculous, how our country has been electing people throughout the centuries. host: that was mark in chico. this is don in brazil writing in on yahoo!.com. he ran al gore's campaign in 2000 for a while.

she says what is happening in politics is an earthquake. this is not about ideology. this is a voter revolution based on revulsion with how we conduct politics. however, instead of following president obama's advice, voters are looking to a no frills solution, choosing candidates who talk simply, who seem authentic because they disdain new wants and who reject the same politicians the voters themselves shun. it is all built on voter distrust and the failures of leaders to achieve their trust. have you learned anything from these debates? caller: all my life i have mentor children and also young adults on how to succeed in life. that -- i have a simple program that they

candidates could use to create vision boards in all areas of life. so we can understand what they believe will bring happiness to every individual. and if they had a social vision board of how they wanted the world to work, how they wanted america to work, and an emotional one, a physical one, a spiritual, and financial. it seems like most people are interested in financial, but that is not being balanced. host: so you would like to see the candidates create vision boards? caller: well, i would like them -- a picture says 1000 words. caller: this is a vince in oklahoma, republican. have you learned anything from these debates? if so, what? caller: well, it seems like

hillary clinton has spent most of her time either moderating her progressive stance or progressing her moderate stance depending on what uncle bernie throws that her. i'm a republican and i will be voting for ted cruz. this is the front page of "the new york times." lawmakers hedge fund intrudes on day job. eric lipton writes, the hedge fund manager boasted he had traveled to every country in the world, studying overseas stock markets as he fined tuned and investment strategy to capitalize on global companies suffering because of economic or political turmoil. manager had a more distinctive credential to showcase in his marketing material. in june 2013, he was a u.s. representaive alan

grayson, democrat of florida, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. now, he is also among the leading democratic candidates for one of florida's united states senate seats. , as highly unusual dual role sitting house lawmaker running a hedge fund which until recently had operations in -- the extent to which mr. grayson's role as a hedge fund manager and a member of congress were intertwined and how he promoted his international travels. some with congressional delegations to solicit business. interviews and the documents show mr. grayson told police and potential investors in his hedge fund that they should contribute money to the fund to capitalize on the unrest around the world. and to make particular advantage when there was blood in it the street.

e-mails also show how mr. grayson's work for the hedge fund, which had $16.4 million in assets as of october, and only four investors when it was established, at times interfered with his other duties. in august 2015, after mr. grayson introduced legislation calling for larger annual increases in social security benefits, he signed off on a plan to highlight the proposal at an event into a book, florida. e-mails obtained by the times show, but the plan was scuttled. two former aides said when it economic turmoil in china sent stock markets tumbling globally, he reacted. we have thomas on power independent line. have you learned anything from the debates? caller: good morning to you. i learned a little bit i already knew, but it is kind of like a

rehash. on hillary clinton's side, he wants to make education more cheaper, or more advantageous to the lower class. then she goes and gives a speech for hundreds of dollars that she charges the university system, her and her husband. donald trump is complaining about building in texas -- or in mexico, i'm sorry. and three minutes later in his speech he said he has brought 400,000 air-conditioners from south korea. you can't have it both ways. that is what they are trying to do in these debates to bring in more votes. but people need to listen to this. bluster, with their let's get to the middle. let's get back to the middle where they belong. goht now, as it looks, let's to an established candidate because they know how the system works. myself, independent.

i can't agree that we should add $100 billion expansion to the government like the democrats want to do the cousin of them that just adds more opportunity for corruption. i can't agree with the republicans because you can't just got -- our standard living in the united states is 80% higher than anywhere in the world. now, if we are the only ones that have it, guess what, if you don't share it, someone will keep trying to take it. and that goes on and on and on. pull everybody up else slowly, without pulling ourselves down. host: edwin tweets that unless we replace congress it doesn't matter who wins

obama the leadership test. himhe past he is called week, disappointing. he wrote a forward for a book that basically argued voters should have wired for morse on it comes to president obama's leadership and legacy. i could not disagree more with those kinds of comments. from my perspective, maybe because i understand what president obama inherited, not only the worst financial crisis, but the antipathy of the republicans and brought -- in congress, i don't think he gets the credit he deserves. is atal secretary, that low blow. i have worked with president obama for the last seven years. when president obama came into office, we were losing $800,000 -- 800,000 jobs a month. we had a $1.4 trillion deficit

and the financial system was on the verge of collapse. and the results of his efforts and joe biden, against unprecedented republican obstruction, we have made in north's progress. but you know what? last i heard we lived in a democratic society. -- i heard, the >> the book that hillary clinton prices latest. from organ, a republican. caller: good morning.

issuey has been a major neither one of the candidates discuss that. [indiscernible] isn't this exactly what the democrats denounced? dirty water? this is troubling that neither one of the candidates brought this up. created hugely timber industry

organ -- in an oregon. significant and important. i don't understand why it wasn't address. host: from the washington post, celebrity endorsement. ,tewart and petersburg virginia. a democrat. what you learned? black and proud military. also bernie sanders is going to on generate 20 -- every february 27.

are very powerful in this area. president obama came here in 2008. to going to go out to try votes for hillary glen because she is best qualified. host: now we have glen. glenn? going to move on to and and a ton of each -- anne in daytona beach. caller: good morning. i have learned that anyone that can vote for hillary clinton has to be an entire idiot. she is the smartest woman in the

world. if she were that smart don't you think she would have had more sense than to use a personal computer trying to run the state department? ?ow horror -- terrible is that there is no way that she had any reason to expect because the president of the united states -- host: who are you supporting? donald i'm supporting trump. i see nothing of the democratic side at all. host: raymond in magnolia, texas. he is a democrat. i learned quite a bit i am ae debates and supporter of ms. clinton.

see how people can put their bait and don't come. he is part of the establishment here that is all i have to say. host: thank you for calling in. according to the washington gop -- e house workers moved ahead to shift 38,000 faa workers. 80%transfer of about percent of the faa's workforce to a private company is the centerpiece of a six-year reauthorization bill for the agency. the bill would create a federally chartered corporation to oversee the movement of aircraft in flight and take over a $40 billion modernization of the and traffic control system.

an amendment that would have derailed creation of the corporation was defeated in the house transportation committee thursday on a straight partyline vote, with 34 republicans prevailing over 25 democrats. the bill also would prohibit in-flight cell phone calls, required the faa to move more rapidly and regularly drones require airlines to refund baggage fees and bags are overdue by more than 24 hours, if i do tennis an additional hour of rest between fights, and banned the use of electronic cigarettes on airplanes. most of the bill one bipartisan support. jim is calling from lancaster, new york on our independent line. what you learned? caller: i have learned that

other than trump and sanders, all of the candidates on both sides will say anything to get your vote. whether they have any plans to follow through on their promises anythinghey will take to get your vote. i've also learned that hillary has no taste in close. i have no idea who dresses her. host: from the washington times this morning, weekend candidate tracker. the ninth republican debate looms on saturday and self-reliant appeared the states primary is not for another week, but there is still much to do. rock runner donald trump arrives from -- for the bout from previous campaign rallies in

louisiana. , ted cruz, will also share his testimony at the community bible church in buford -- beaufort. has a quartet of events, including a public valentine's day dinner with his wife candy on sunday and columbia, self-reliant. senator rubio, who has been campaigning all week with south carolina resident of trey gowdy, appears at seven town halls this weekend. a recharged jeb bush has not events, john kasich for, though he's due for a meet and greet at mutts famous barbecue and malden. fresh from the seventh democratic debate, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are hitting the road. ms. clinton spent the weekend at

multiple get out the caucus events in las vegas before bolting for florida on monday. mr. sanders is in colorado this week in hosting a future to believe in rally. diana, livingston, new jersey. a democrat. what did you learn from the debates? caller: just that hillary clinton is the status quo. we have learned that she is very closely connected to wall street, as his trump, and all of congressman. i have been reading a book some of the hidden wealth of nations, and treasure island. -- we need a candidate that is going to bust up all of these loopholes on how these multinational corporations are abandoning america with these trade deals. the only one that has really and preparecefully to do that, it's not just wall

street, all these big biggest is that are backing republicans. they put donations to both parties. sanders is not getting donations from anyone other than the middle-class people like myself. and i haven trampled daughters that have worked. and i have daughters that have worked. have no health benefits, no health care. even with the affordable care act, because of the grip that the lobbyist and insurances and doctors have, they don't want to give up their cozy arrangements. so we need a person like bernie country -- ake his host: that is diana in new jersey. tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern syme, you will hear from both

centers and clinton. they are in st. paul, minnesota. for the dfl fundraiser. 8:30 p.m.be live at eastern time. they will be speaking separately. , death toll at war in syria now at 470,000. the u.s. and russia and other powers agree to a cessation of provideies in order to place --ian access to take place. secretary of defense asked carter was in brussels.

carterd carter -- ashe was in brussels. >> let's be clear, that russia's --ions in crimea upare going to have to beat our troop level and that part of tell putin that his aggressiveness not -- is not going to go on match. i happen to believe he's doing what he is doing because his economy is increasingly in shambles and he is trying to rally his people in support of him. the bottom line is the president is right, we have to put more

money, work with nato to protect eastern europe to protect against any kind of russian aggression. >> let's hope we can accelerate the cease-fire. i fear that the russians will continue their bombing. the russians have not gone after isis or any of the other terrorist groups. maybeget a cease-fire and some court orders that leave the terrorist groups on the .oorsteps of others in syria we have some real work to do. let's try to make sure that we actually settlement what has been agreed to with the russians. host: there's a new poll out this morning. thatis the hill reporting senator sanders is within seven points of secretary clinton nationwide. francis on the republican line. what a from the debates?

caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to follow up on one of the callers earlier about the media bias. why have the democrats not agreed to do any debate on a truly conservative program. have been onns cnn, nbc, and msnbc. none of the hard questions are being asked. with bernie sanders, how come no one has asked him how socialism has worked in russia, venezuela, greece. what it has done. with secretary clinton, i believe there is a warrant out out lessen and he let

then shet information did with her personal server. ohio --rk is in cat in canton, ohio. i first want to complement you on your interview a couple months ago with, heartland --tom tom hartman. .e is an amazing person i watched to tv channels. common is theyin do not have commercials. one is c-span. anyways, getting back to the main topic, i plan on voting and have contributed money to bernie sanders because i believe that

--can implement can't national health insurance. it works in canada. i have friends in canada. also, hillary clinton i do not trust her. she is received $21 million from wall street and big banks. mark, what do you do in canton? caller: i'm retired. host: from? caller: collins and aikman. host: what is that? caller: that was the largest textile manufacture in the united states until it was bought and then it was put into bank rossi and sold. is a democrat,

dee. caller: i just wanted to say that what i have learned is that going needs to listen to the debates themselves and not listen to the next a reports. they are heavily edited. been no candidate has even why the republicans keep the young, elderly, and students from voting. those who close those -- the government for two weeks and still collect a paycheck and has done everything to obstruct our president who has voted twice for his vision. i see that if we need to do anything, we need to understand water andve poison

homelessness. the republican leadership does not care about that. sorry, i thought you had finished. nearly 15 months after trying to , the attempt has been dropped. the documents were signed by legal officials and posted wednesday come in drawing condemnation from the them is lawyers, one of whom called the suit nothing short of breathtaking. but on tuesday, city officials said that the $500 claim was

unintended, and the city was withdrawn yet. in a news conference, mayor frank jackson also apologize to the family if it has added to any grief or pain that they may have. but we want to explain what happened. then once, the mayor's brooklyn, said in a telephone interview, it should have raise a red lack. he said a senior official should have looked into it and said does this make sense? host: a call from the republican line. what he learned from the debate? all, my vote is for rand paul. one thing i will say about senator sanders. he talked about blowback. aret of people in my party putting in new people. he had a very accurate depiction of iran. going forward to that.

i want to talk about bernie sanders and the word socialism. i find myself a little more educated in that. 60's, see is that in the when republicans opposed medical care. who saidonald reagan you and i are going to one-day tell our children and their children what it was like when america was free. that is -- here our problem is extremism. we have got to come to the table more. i love rand paul because he brings the moderate view in a different light. i can see why people are getting bernie sanders.

in north joanna. an independent. caller: i want to say that i am are -- disappointed in the republicans. them talking about mass incarceration in the black economic development that needs to happen. make it happen. get up there calling people names. thank you. host: this is heather macdonald, who is with the manhattan institute in new york writing an op-ed in the wall street journal. the myth of black lives matter. apparently the black lives

--ter movement has convinced what if the black lives matter movement is based on fiction? not just the fictional account ofthe 2014 plea shooting brown and ferguson, but the utter misrepresentation of police shootings generally? the washington post has been gathering data on fatal police shootings over the past year and a half to correct acknowledge deficiencies and federal tallies. the emerging data should open many eyes. for starters, fatal police shootings makeup a march -- much larger proportion of white hispanic homicide deaths than

black homicide deaths are according to the post database, and to those 15 officers killed 660 wife and hispanics, and 200 58 blacks best to it if it be a blacks. of overwhelming authority all those plea shooting victims were attacking the officer, often with a gun. 2014 homicide numbers as an approximation of 2015's, those 600 city to white and hispanic victims of police shootings would make up 12% of all white and hispanic homicide deaths. that is three times the portion of like this the result from police shootings. the lower proportion of black deaths due to police shootings can be attributed to the lamentable black on black homicide deaths. there were 6000 95 -- 6095 black homicide deaths in 2014, the

most recent year for which data i available, compared to thousand 397 homicide deaths for whites and hispanics combined. almost all of those black, said victims had black killers. these officers of all races are also disproportionately endangered by blackest alien spirit over the past decade according to the fbi, 40% of cop killers have been black. officers are killed by blacks at a rate of 2.5 times. here is -- he is with the wall street journal. timothy from danville, illinois. a democrat. what have you learned from the debates? caller: understand that donald what and i understand bernie sanders is saying, but they have to understand that you

have democrats and republicans in office and they have to deal with them. just because they give you promises, that does not mean they can get it done. the candidate that can is helical end. -- hillary clinton. host: diane in reston, virginia. an independent. caller: good morning. i'm a little nervous. this is what i have to say. we are depending on these elected politicians to carry out what they want, but we are not holding them accountable. , can that whoever we elect the american people get together on one or two issues. vote out the current congress and hold them countable for what we want. i think the mess that the country is in is our fault. if your mexican, black,

republican. we have to stop that and come together on one or two issues that we can all agree on. host: what is one of those issues that we can all agree on in your view? caller: probably higher-paying jobs. i don't think there is an american that doesn't want higher-paying jobs. and i don't think there is an american that doesn't want their children and grandchildren that doesn't want them to do better than us. individuals in america and we love being individuals in america. weekend take this country back by holding our elected officials accountable. we don't vote and then we sit there and say bit ernie -- bernie is going to save us. trump is going to save us. the only one is going to be us. from florida, a democrats

line. -- our democrats line. caller: i watched all of them. i watch c-span on a regular basis. it really comes down to two candidates that are truly honest. they are senator sanders and donald trump. bernie is a troop aggressive and not bought by big money. donald trump is a troop they get, and racist who is not bought by money. it really comes down to who really represents american people and i feel like it is bernie. exposing the deep route to our problems and that is that the average american just is not

have a say because our politicians are corrupt and bought. she has twory, but sides to her. we don't know which one is going to show up. fort wall street hillary progressive hillary -- or progressive hillary? so bernie has my vote. barbara, from --'t amend, -- empowerment florida. a republican. caller: i had a comment on the debate. there are several questions on both sides that the republicans are not answering and their are questions that the democrats are not answering. side, i haveican not heard anybody address how

they are going to reform our entitlements and they keep referring to social security as an entitlement. that is not an entitlement. that is entitlement. that is something we have for. entitlements are like medicaid, or food stamps or welfare. or public housing. those are entitlements. things that the government felt the people were entitled to you i have not heard anything from about that. on the democratic side, i'm not hearing anything discussed when you talk about black lives matter. where are the marchers and all the things on the southside of chicago where blacks are killing in a enormous amounts. nobody seems to care. like to see our candidates in force specifics on

some of the answers to these questions. eric is up next in georgia. democrat. thank you. what i have observed about all of this is that hillary clinton will not win. as soon as black people become aware of the issues with the clinton administration. i'm a 55-year-old black man. i would never vote for clinton. if reason why is because people were to go back next a look and see with the clinton said, they would think being a clinton is actually a right-wing president. we are the ones who put him in office. after nine years of putting us in office in the face of what bill clinton did in the way he actually joined the republicans and did everything can think. so, hillary is being drug to the left. she does not want to go there.

she wants to get in office just like build it. she wants to satisfy all those white people and blue-collar people. i'm for bernie. bernie can join those poor people using their entitlements and their welfare more than black people. more hispanics and more white people are on welfare than black people because of the population and because of all the kids being born in the hispanic community. whistle thata dog you speak about as black people getting the privilege. where less educated. we're less going to college. they are the ones who need it the most. they're the ones who need medicaid. most black people that i know do not even get a government check.

they might get food stamps because they are not making enough money. this is what i'm talking about. most of the new jobs coming to the united states is come from immigrants. 500 new jobs. through these issues that people are bringing over here. what do you do? caller: i have my own restaurant. i tried to get a grant. i invested all my money in a restaurant. i cannot get anything. the restaurant when out of business. loan.ot even get a $1000 , i started trying to hustle in bar for my mother and my kids. this is what i'm talking about. black people are trying.

this is what i'm talking about. there are a lot of things going on. it is actually stop in the black unity from growing jobs. these white businesses will not hire black people. host: that was derek in georgia. roger is in alabama. republican line. roger, what did you want from the debate? hearr: i was surprised to bernie bring up the issue of trade. the only one i've heard talking about trade is donald trump. now, i go back to ross perot. he had the giant sound we are putting after through. the only one i have heard talk about that is trump. i think there are a lot of lobbyists lined up for japan. aggression.he

many people. i think what america needs is a lobbyist. i think donald trump is just the guy. he is on that issue as well, because i think that impacts everybody united states your america needs a lobbyist. thank you. here is a tweet from looking your mirror. hillary is correct. willpublican governors fight bernie's executive orders. that'll be all he can do with a republican congress. and, michael says talking to an earlier caller that both sides are talking to the debates. it is about getting primary votes. here is a little bit more of last night's democratic debate. >> in her book in and her last debate, she talked about getting in theroval and support

mentoring of henry kissinger. now, i find it rather amazing, because i happen to believe that henry kissinger was one of the most destructive secretaries of state and the modern history of this country. to say that henry kissinger is not my friend. i will not take advice from henry kissinger. fact, his actions in cambodia when the united states on that instabilitycredit for pol pot and the commonest rooster come in who them butchered 3 million innocent people. one of the worst genocides in history of the world. whocount me in as somebody will not be listening to henry kissinger. crux well, i know people arrested to you do is atone for policy.

with yet to know who that is. >> it is not henry kissinger. cracks i was into a wide variety of voices. that have expertise in various areas. i think it is fair to say whatever the complaints you want to make about him that with respect to china, one of the most challenging relationships we have, his opening of china and his ongoing relationships with the leaders of china is an incredibly useful relationship for the united states of america. choosewe want to pick it , people i was a two people and do not listen to. then come i think we have to be fair and look at the entire world. it is a big complicated world. yes, people we may disagree with on a number of things may have some insight and relationships that are important for the president to understand in order to best protect the united states. roses in baltimore

maryland. independent line. what you want from the debate? caller: it is my first time calling. i'm a democrat. this is about the debate from last night. good, but he is exactly what the republicans want. they want him because they know that in the final analysis they know that anybody like donald trump or ted cruz will win. that is why they are building him up. this is for all of the debates. hillary is knowledgeable. she has been doing this for a long time. what has bernie done?, supporters does he have? listen carefully and do not be full.

our president has cleaned up all the mess. he cleaned up now. 23 republicans want to come in because the coast is clear now. open your. that is all i have to say. i love c-span. host: that is rose from baltimore. this is jane from tampa. democrat. caller: yes. good morning. morning is that i have heard that bernie sanders did have a super pac last night that was reaffirmed because i heard it on cnn and msnbc. that was late last night after the debate was over. also heard at like two days ago on another channel. host: you heard that bernie sanders has a super pac. yes, he is a super pac.

they said they have this super pac and i think they did it with a $2.3 million. he used it for an advertisement. host: i'll tell you what, this is the first time i heard that. this of the financial times. this is an article on money. u.s. campaigns rewrite the role of money. in this article it says most candidates also have super pac's. has disavowed them as part of his populist campaign to reduce the power of wealthy donors and big corporations and politics. he still managed to raise more than $75 million by the end of last year. several super pac's have emerged mr. trump. the tycoon has order ordered them to stop associating their activities with his name as his campaign makes the case that he will change washington because he is beholden to nobody. ok. peter and germantown tennessee.

republican. what to do on from the debate. caller: i learned that hillary clinton and bernie sanders speak shamelessly and not even come it was obvious that their pandering to black voters. making comments that really did not make any sense. none of them have the guts to say what the real problem in the black community is. 72% illegitimate birthrate. that creates instability and chaos. problem.the icu instability chaos. as because you do not have healthy family structure. host: without instability and chaos across the community. host:2-d support? caller: i have not decided. i am a conservative. i think i'm leaning towards ted cruz or marco. i'm undecided right now.

that is peter from tennessee. that will wrap up our conversation about last night's debate. the show is on the air three hours per day every day. 65 days per year. whenever a lot of time to debate and talk about the debates. we can continue today on our facebook page. facebook.com/c-span. thecan continue conversation there. it is quite a lively conversation on this topic going on on facebook. well, coming up in a minute is miles mcginnis. it is budget season in washington. we'll talk with her and figure out what is going on with this federal project. first, our newsmakers program the veteransith affairs committee chair. johnny isakson's. republican from georgia. here is a little bit of what he had to say. this program airs on sunday.

>> senator sanders served before me. he proposed some things that were good. we are not as active as we should have been. the arizona issue took place during his watch. we did not respond at that time. it was a response later on. of the nominee donald trump i do not know that he has served in the military. i think he is regurgitating a lot of what he reads in the press. i would never criticize the press while i am doing an interview. a lot of things that are reported that came around before i came along. the v.a. is making substantial changes. they are addressing the concerns that took place in denver and atlanta. one by one, we're correcting those things. when you see the accountability legislation we're doing in the

spring, you'll see a full response to all the things that have happened. it is an easy thing to find fault with. when you have hundreds of thousands of employees and your serving 22.5 million people, there is always a mistake you can find. there are a lot of people being helped out because they served our country. mr. trump frequently cites numbers of veterans who died because of delays in service. what does your investigation show up? deaths have you actually been able to pinpoint because of service delays. >> one death is too many. there is not a number that is acceptable. i know we had one in arizona. one is all i need to know. that is inexcusable. we will do everything we can to make sure that number is zero. x washington journal continues. joining us now is maya mcguiness. she is part of a group called

the committee for a responsible federal budget. the budget process supposed to work on paper you go how has it worked in the past? guest: the budget process has a set council on everything we're supposed to see. number one, the present without his budget in february. so, this all comes from the 1974 budget act. for those of us who like the budget, we know the budget act. the rest of us will have no reason to have heard of it. it lays out a calendar for events. it follows the president budget which is not required to be taken at the starting point. he puts out the budget and the congress moves into action. the house and senate budget committees and put forth their own budget. how much they think about him changes with their political affiliation. with that, budget documents tend

to be very political. their statements about what they want to do. they are less than realistically what will get done. senate each put forth budgets and then they have to reconcile them. after that, they have set numbers for the discretionary portion of the budget. if you think about the budget as a pie, one third of it is discretionary. to theans he goes appropriations process. and every year, those appropriators determine how the dollars will be spent. two thirds is basically already a set law. manager programs like social security and medicare medicaid v.a. benefits, interest on the debt, they are all set. we do not decide each year how much was been on social security or interest. it is predetermined. after the senate in the house come forward with their grip on budget, the appropriators determine how they will allocate the dollars that discretionary portion. the census is in that.

now, what happens more regularly than not is number one, the president's budget gets ignored. number two, the house and senate do not come up with the budget. if they do, they do not usually agree. the appropriations process were supposed to go through does not always get finished. then, we have what people are probably familiar with. or end of the year showdown would start to talk about will there be a government shutdown? they have a continuing resolution or they just take funding from the previous year extended it to next year. realally, i will say the problem is the budget process does not make a lot of sense. we do not stick by it. there is no repercussion if they don't. shutting down the government is one. very often, budget committees and appropriators do not get their work done. there is no automatic default. there is no plan for what the budget will look like. for instance, this week we could amend the law and say the budget from the previous year for the

10 years that it was mapped out was until new budgets was put in. something that recognizes the work is not getting done. assuming things in washington all right now, the budget process is becoming more and more politicized. outcomes of it are being taken less seriously. i will an example. last year, the budget that came credit, the budget did get done. they planned to balance the budget over a 10 year time. to do that, it was going to say $5 trillion. what did we do last year? added $1 trillion to the debt on top of what we're already assuming they would. just because there was a budget that said we have a large savings plan that did not constrain them to stick with that in the laws they passed. in the end, we did much worse on the fiscal front. governor kasich: host: maya

mcguiness, is there any power of law with what the budget committees come up with? when they say here's the house budget, the senate budget, this is our top number. does that top number has the power of law. you sell my somebody who should be part of the budget process committee. no, it is not legally binding the way other laws are. budget does not carry any way. the congressional resolution is not binding. we do have some budget rules which are supposed to keep us on track. those rules are waived and it is not a law. we have to think about how you strengthen that actual budget. host: right now, what is the purpose of the budget committee. are they a paper tiger? guest: i do not know if i would say that. i love the budget committee. i think the potential for what they do is very important. i think the problem is number one, they do not get their budget done, that is abdicating

responsibility. beyond that, congress and the president do not stick to that. i think budget committees a bill of more serious if we did not waive rules that require that they stick with their budget. number one is that if you will has a law that adds to the debt, that you wouldn't find a way to offset those costs. regularly, they passed bills. they do add to the debt, and then they just waive that requirement. that is how we ended up adding interest -- additional $1 trillion last year. i think they also have a great working knowledge of the budget which there is not always in congress. what do we take in? where's the money allocated? they have an abundance of information about programs. they have these programs they could be working into. they will share that with appropriators. i think we should elevate the power of the budget committee.

i think we should put more strong leadership on the committee. we should change the rules. we should think about ways to shrink the budget process. the real challenge here is our policy. not have responsible policies. that is what we are on an unsustainable debt half. i do think a first step would be strengthening the process. we actually impact the budget committee. at one point, in this town, appropriators were known in congress. has their power been reduced or changed over the last 15 years? >> people wanted to be on the appropriations committee. it was incredibly powerful. i think what has changed is that our fiscal situation has grown increasingly bad. we are in a dangerous place. our debt is at record levels. the highest it has been since world war ii. is expected for when

we came down after the great recession is now expected to grow forever. every year. interest payments are the fastest-growing part of the budget. so, what has happened is that a lot of this has been driven by the baby boomers moving into retirement we're living longer. we are pushing resources into that part of the budget. it is pushing a big squeeze on the discretionary part of the budget and it. that is a part appropriators work on. what has happened is that appropriators now have a less desirable job. as that of china figure out how to dole out the dollar, you are lobbying to use those dollars for your program, they are action trying to figure out how to comply with the budgetary squeeze that we have which is a result of number one, retirements for mandatory programs. especially social security and medicare. parts ofith not other the budget. the sequester which is the policy we put in place we were

not able to put together real budget deal. they came up with an across-the-board spending cut in the discretionary portion of the budget. in the most recent years come when ashley waived part of that. it is still very tight. instead of figuring out how to give away dollars, they have to figure out how to squeeze dollars. it is a lot harder to be somebody who says no base somebody who says yes what you are seeing much related to is a lot of members in congress are sanded and not want to be on appropriations. it is a difficult job. either lazy being irresponsible are making hard choices. sadly, that is not something people want to do in congress. host: last year was a first-year quite a while for the first am quite a mile where we did pass some appropriations bills. guest: the best we have seen in a while because they passed the budget.

the appropriations process did move on somewhat. we are still so far way from housing all of our bills on time and having a budget in place before the fiscal year before that begins. that thelmost becoming assumption is that we will not pass them. i do not know what will happen this year. there is real talk about whether we will even pass a budget in the house or senate, or whether one of those bodies will. and how it will go through the appropriations process. it is breaking down, even on there is a tiny sign of life. host: articles in the paper about members wanted to as a budget and having to fight his own party. guest: he has a really challenging job. the first thing is that he is an expert on the budget. it probably nobody knows it better. he has been on the budget committee for the chair he has been part of the member for ways and means. he knows these issues.

he has his own budget to layout the roadmap. we have watched him be able to drive policy. the one developing policies, he is really able to bring his members along he now has a job of process. and the leadership job which is very different. he has a number of members. the more conservative members say the budget deal which we did at the end of last year, and what this deal did was, it increased the amount we could spend on discretionary spending. we increased how much we could spend over the next two years. and, we offset that through some mandatory savings. honestly, we offset that their budget gimmicks. we basically increase spending and promise people later saying these are not as likely to come. certainly not as likely to offset the full cost. he is having a menu revolt amongst his more conservative members saying we know you signed the deal, we do not want to support the deal.

meanwhile, democrats are not going to support the gut budget because it is very republican oriented. it is a worry bipartisan deal might and, it is what the republicans are saying he has a row question about whether he can get the numbers to pass the budget. at the same time, both he and mitch mcconnell have been talking about how passing the budget is a real sign of and ability to govern. i do not think either them are eager to knock it the government done because they say republicans are majority in the house and senate. host: that would be a regular order. thet: going to has in budget would not just be the regular order. regular order would be house and budget. they recognize the budget and pass the preparations go. government is open and working on the new day the fiscal year. if i were predicting, i will promise that will break down at some point between now and october 1. host: what is the role of

federal spending in their sequestered federal spending. the reason we keep lifting these caps is that there is an interesting agreement. republicans would like to lift the cap on the defenses spending. republicans in general will like to lift it on the defense area of the artist sequester. democrats are worried that the discretionary program will freeze. we have a fiscally irresponsible alliance that pops up every few years or they say ok, i will lift some defense come you with some discretionary spending. we will attend like we'll save that money later. we will not really do it. going tohy does not affect. we do not see these above the board cuts. let me take a step back. this reflects that the sequesters focusing on the wrong part of the agenda. this discretionary part of the budget is not where the problem

is. it is not were growth in spending is. it is projected to be a massive record low going forward. thee squeezing that part of budget. challenging the budget is, like i said cap we are aging. health care costs are going faster than the economy. of moneyo spend a lot on a lot of things and we do not like to pay for. aboutwant to be serious our fiscal situation. i would say we have to be. because, if you have a week fiscal underpinning to your economy, you're really stuck in the growth of the economy. you're still in the way of growth and competitiveness. jobs and wages. i know the budget is born. i know fiscal policy is not something people go home and worry about on a regular basis or it affects everything we care about. we cannot continue to borrow like this. if we care about getting this and a healthy place, we have to look at her mandatory spending and our tax code. focusing on discretionary

spending is not what we need to do. we need a larger budget overhaul that looks and drivers of debt. host: difference between debt and deficit. that is a big one. a lot of people do not understand that. the deficit is how much we borrow each year. it is our annual gap. we take expenses. we taken taxes. the deficit is how sure we came up. is basically the accumulated amount of those deficit. every year, whatever had to borrow gets added to the debt. there is a debt wheel to the public. we borrow from treasury bonds and the public. we bars also the debt from ourselves. we borrow from social security trust funds. that is when these trust funds are taking a more money every year. that is because we're trying to build up a surplus. we then borrow that money and spend it on other parts of the budget. there is a debt owed to the public. there is a total debt owed to

ourselves. the reason the distinction 2009,s right now is since we're coming of that terrible economic downturn, our deficits or massive. there are at a trillion dollars. the company became very concerned about trip fiscal policy because we had the trillion dollar deficit. at that point, the deficit was not our problem. the deficit was not an immediate challenge. the deficit has come down as the policy has recovered. the president said the deficit has come down by three quarters. that is not what the problem was. was actually helping to stimulate the economy when there is not enough demand. the problem is that our debt has been soaring as a result of that. when we went into the economic crisis of 2008. our debt was the average amount it is relative to the economy. our debt is now 74% of gdp. it is headed to be in the 8'