anything. we are getting more information so i can make an informed choice. i am from florida. i am an absentee ballot. >> what are you looking for in a candidate? >> someone who has a strong background. i think marco rubio has done really well, same for jeb bush, and i am between them. >> you have two floridians. ?hat do you think of someone >> the sad part is i think they will duke it out against each other. in my state especially. i hope the best for the event. i hope one of them will come out on top.

sensationalism. he said things that get people fired up, and people were willing to jump on board, and they were willing to hear them say, and we want people to leave . i do not think there is substance behind it. people are not looking for substance anymore. >> if he got the nomination, would you vote for him? >> i do not think so. he jumps on the question too much for me. he does not come out with concrete evidence on his answers. -- - more fat-based fact-based. >> we will check in more with the endorsement, and the state

endorsing john kasich. republicanthe primary, voters committee to changing how the government functions should ignore the blather of candidates from candidates. michelle is joining us, republican line. what is your take on this? >> i think marco is wonderful. host: thank you for the call. we will go to larry in alabama. caller: how are you doing?

i just wanted to say that i am i have contacted my sisters in alabama about how i felt, and contact and many friends from all over the united states. the consensus is rubio is best for our country. with all the issues, we do not need someone who will blow up and get hot in the white house, somebody with a nuclear -- it could be a mess. question,me ask the on the issue of experience. do you think marco rubio has the experience to be commander in chief and be president? -- and marconk the being on the house ways -- i over the area, i think he is the most experienced in

knowing what is going on in the world that anybody on the stage. host: thanks for the call. trail back on the tomorrow covering jeb bush in south carolina and governor john kasich in south carolina, and a late-evening rally in las vegas with hillary clinton. you can watch that at 11:30 eastern c-span. next is terry from west palm beach, florida. caller: good evening. i'm calling you for the civil reason that i am a woman born in manhattan. i came to florida, and under the rubio,h, this marco charlie crist, they were the worst. i was crucified here. i am trying to get back to new york. this man rubio -- and jeb bush is a liar, and i sent him

a letter in 2005, making for help. -- thinking for help. thee people are not telling cheek. donald trump, 100%. he does not know me, but i grew up knowing about donald trump. host: thanks for the call. now back to chapin, south carolina, with susan swain. host: i would like to introduce you to emerald. where is home for you? >> columbia, south carolina. my politics are pretty moderate. >> will you be voting on saturday? >> yes. >> have you made up your mind? >> i have not. withground fantastic, eileen toward casey, but it was interesting during the ideas that senator rubio had. >> comedy candidates have you

heard so far? >> three. i heard governor bush senator rubio and also senator sanders. >> what did you hear tonight that made you start to think about him differently? toi think his ideas on ensure that anybody who wants to work for somebody, he wants to create opportunity for. i am a supporter of national service. we will work in this country if you give us the opportunity to release some of our student loan debt. what do you think of this >> campaign overall? >> south carolina is known for that -- out sometimes people. it has been interesting. i do not think it will show people in the best light sometimes. hopefully we will get down to the truth someday.

>> how interested are your friends and colleagues this saturday? >> no, i think a lot of my colleagues and friends will be voting next week? >> because we work in a nonprofit sector. it has the ideas to do about the different ideas of what the parties and justice means here in the united states. different ideas. >> sounds like you must have interesting conversations. >> we do. >> thank you for talking to his he said. >> thank you very much. host: this is a national poll from nbc released a few hours ago, shown ted cruz had nationally, 20%. he told nbc that he is now the new front runner. donald trump at 26%. senator rubio at 17%. john kasich at 11%. ll, continuing

-- benn karcher and carson at 10% and jeb bush at 4%. full details available online at nbcnews.com. jerry from south carolina. are you going to vote on saturday? caller: i am. rubio.idate is host: you have to think about that for a minute. why? caller: to start with, i got a sign from a neighborhood grocery store who is for donald trump, and that is the only sign i could get to put in my yard. since i have been listening to his stupid,d all of

i dong people liars, not want somebody like this representing me. this is a great country we are in. if we do not get the right person up there, we are going to go down worse than we are now. made a big mess of this country i have ever seen in my life. i am 70 years old. i have been through a lot in my life. as is the worst eight years, seven years that i have seen, period. if we cannot get somebody in there and not somebody like donald trump with his millions of dollars who thinks he can do because he is rich, that will not work for me. host: some new bloomberg politics numbers, looking at south carolina showing that donald trump still leading in that state.

according to bloomberg news, donald trump and 36%, senator cruz at 17%, rubio at 15%, jeb bush at 13%, and ben carson and john kasich in the single digits. back to susan swain. : the next gentleman tells me i should call him by his nickname, who is smoke. you have had a big commitment to this legend. you watched everything will debate, democratic and republican. this is not your first election. what do you think about this year overall? >> the debates, it is an embarrassment. i have watched every one of them, and all this installation will is him going on, you listen to summary like this who is down-to-earth, young, he will surround himself with some good people and i think you will do well, really well. susan: people are saying what

they are hearing from the public is a lot anger is your. is that what you are hearing, and if so, is that what the appeal is for the candidates doing the best in the poll? >> they are thriving on that is not what people are interested in. people are smarter than we they think we are. using all these very wonderful this and fantastic that, you got to have some real plans, and i think rubio has that ability to find people that will stand with him and do that. as an example, he has got our governor, who is great on business issues, and it was a fellow up there a minute to go, steve secrete, on military. withll surround himself people who know what they are doing, and that is not what we have in washington. gets aif rubio nomination, are we looking at a potential ticket? >> it will be wise to have our governor, nikki haley, as a v..[

susan: what do you think matters most? >> social issues, business issues. look at what the governor has done for our state. we have all kinds of plants, manufacturers coming in or, in the military, of course. whole kind of issues that need to be addressed. susan: we are hearing the foreign plants are coming in here, because of trade. >> i think it is because of taxes. this is a right to work state. ask our governor. she does not want her governor in here. we do not want unions in here delegating here, and manufacturers will not come with that. that is all north.

look at what has happened up there. steel mills. people know what they are doing. rubio's at pathway to the nomination? >> stay focused on issues, and state out of all the socialization. susan: re: predicting a big turnout on saturday? >> i think so. downtown chapin, a couple thousand people, but the surrounding areas. susan: how long have you lived here? >> 24 years. susan: thank you for talking to c-span, smoke. host: joe, good evening to you. caller: good evening. how are you? host: fine. are you going to vote on saturday? caller: yes.

i am undecided, but i was encouraged by a lot of republican candidates this year. the thing i would emphasize is my demographic of being a 22-year-old male, i own a business behind where rubio actually spoke today. i just want to encourage everybody in my community and vote. have some very good candidates. we have to take a country back. it is not right with people work all their lives and have nothing to show for it. host: thanks for the call. headline, the endorsement of governor nikki haley from south carolina. she was asked earlier this week by george w. bush to in georgia his brother, jeb bush, the endorsement announced today. next,is joining us bowling green, kentucky. good evening. caller: how are you doing?

host: i am fine. for thei do not care bush family because they have to everybody trying to run for what his brother is running for now, and people have forgotten what bush did with the economy and how he crashed the united states when he was in office. i thinkconomy. when he was in office. trump is one of the best ones because at least he speaks the truth and he speaks out about how other people feel about this country. money, he has his his own money to run. he has created jobs. he wants good american things. our foreign trade agreements are terrible. the trade policy is a disaster. free,et everything for they get lower taxes and tax cuts and they get all kinds of

things. i like trump's ideas because he doesn't want his foreigners coming over here. they should earn their way into america. steve: we will have live coverage of the victory and concession speeches on saturday. we also expect to hear from hillary clinton and bernie sanders in nevada. edward from connecticut: good evening. thank you for the program that you are putting on. america that corporate america.

we are the public. not the republic. the power belongs to the people. when we put in place a voting system where we can go and vote on issues. the direction that our nation is going in. that is what we can clean this mess up. and turn washington right side up. we pay for those issues that they put on the floor of our house with our tax dollars and blood. going to war. killing other people continuese coverage from clemson, south carolina, the institute of government and public affairs at clemson. the strom thurmond institute. john kasich will be speaking

shortly, and we will stay here live with a reminder to let you know, the largest state newspaper, "the state," yesterday endorsing governor casey, saying voters committed to changing how the federal government functions should ignore the bladder of candidates without real credentials to meet the country. should chooses john kasich and his actual record of improving federal and state governments. we want to let you know also we will be opening up phone lines for your comments and thoughts and hear from some of the attendees at clemson. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> this is clemson university, the group going to hear from john kasich. he will be introduced by a couple of people, a state representative for clemson and also he will be introduced by a former clemson football player

and now playing in canada. the institute at clemson university named after the late senator, strom thurmond, who created the institute in 1981, announcing his decision to place papers spanning his career in congress. john kasich coming up shortly. following today's event, we will hear from you, and later tonight our coverage moving to las vegas . taylor clinton tonight live at 1130 -- hillary clinton's and i live at 11:30 eastern.

>> good afternoon. i am so happy to see you all here today. i am gary clarey. represent clemson in the state legislature. i am more excited to have governor john kasich here. i met governor's kasich about six months ago when he filed his papers to run for south carolina, and for you to turn out means so much to be personally, and i know it does for the governor. i have a great honor and distinction of introducing the person who is going to introduce john kasich. [laughter] clary: that is better,

--ause taj boyd is everybody is someone everybody knows. he's hill gives a very haughty presence to governor kasich because in his last game, he beat governor kasich's ohio state buckeyes in the orange bowl, 40-35. now without further a do, let me bring taj boyd to the stand. mr. boyd: very good turnout. i appreciate you for showing it up. people want to know why i endorse john kasich, and it is because i believe in what he is,

and what he is going to do. ago, someone told me never a sissy earning with someone you do not believe in. when case is called, it was an easy decision. i love his integrity it. he took a deficit in ohio and into a surplus. that is not an easy task. given the chance to see the debate and listen and watch, there was a lot of chaos going on out there, and it was crazy. you know who i'm talking about. he just weathered the storm. he was calm, collected. it looks like a president of the united states. this is someone who i truly believe can do a wonderful job. look, you know who to vote for. you need to make it happen. again, a great unifier. he is who he is.

john kasich. >> governor, how are you, sir? i thought i was welcomed until i heard that trashing of ohio state, and we got the speaker of the ohio house here. what are we going to do with this? >> [indiscernible] mr. kasich: there we go. you got to be gracious in winning, and you have to the gracious in losing, i guess. that is what they say. how about tajh? isn't he just the best?

tajh, it is not about the numbers, is it? it is not about the numbers? it is about the feeling. it is about bringing people together. it is about bringing everybody and giving them a chance to rise. everybody has a chance to rise america. boyd has beenjh supporting me. that is what it is about. that is what it is about. they did not say to him, that guy is going to run down 20 yards, cut 40 yards to the right. h told his receivers, feel it. am i right? you did not know i was a major quarterback. no, i am not. they will report that. it is really great to be with all of you, and we will take some questions, and i really want to come off of this, but they told me they spent a lot of

money like this and there's tv, and i'm not allowed to move. once you get your pictures, i'm coming back. we have a lot of students here. how many students? let's see. great, great. so i want to tell you a little story. i couldn't up in a little town outside of pittsburgh called mickey' mckees rocks. my father carried mail on his back. his father was a coal miner. as he was older, he was losing his eyesight because of the time he spent in the mines. my mother's mother was an immigrant from yugoslavia, and it was a town if the wind blew the wrong way, people would find themselves out of work. mostlyblue-collar, democrat. i do not remember a republican who lived in my hometown. asymmetrical harry was a republican, but we did not pay a lot of attention to uncle harry.

the people that were there i do not know why this is sticking in my head, but there was a guy who lived catty corner to us, he was a big fellow. he drove a truck. van,think back, it was a really, and i can remember him getting up in the morning and driving in that van, and he would load stuff in it, and he would come home at night, come home later than most -- would come home, maybe come home at 6:30 or something like that, and i can remember his clothes. he always started with clean hes and he always finished with clothes that had oil and grease. i think he was a handyman. i know he worked for a while in falls.

they were wonderful people. he was part of the clue who kept our block and families together, but he never had a lot. but yet everything in the world because he had a great family and he had great neighbors, and he scratched out a living. he made his family proud of him. last night i was in new york. and i was up there doing "colbert." many of you know who is. i was at a fundraiser. i was coming down out of this apartment, and the doorman -- for some reason i stopped, i and hi, what is your name, he said, well, you know, i said how long have you been a doorman? he said for a few years. i said, what did you do before that?

he said i had a business. he said the lease on my businessman and i cannot afford to keep that business. and now i'm a doorman. he had four children. i said, i want to make sure we ,et the e-mails of your kids because i want to send them an e-mail, and i want to tell them that your daddy is a man of character, and he lost his business and it must've been so extremely tough, and he told me how much you kids into him. and you need to let your daddy know how much you love him for the fact that he has kept his head up in adversity. when i think about those stories, i think about the people in our country who do struggle. we did not struggle as kids, really. we did not think about struggle. we would play baseball in the streets or sometimes the

schoolyard, and we fished the balls out of the sewer, and if we hit him on the roof of the schoolhouse -- what are the greatest days, the janitor would go up on the roof and throw the balls off. it was like it was christmas. we never thought it was that big a deal. cliff you grew up, like that, not having a lot. my goal is to always remember those people, to always remember the people who do not have a voice, as somebody who will speak for them. there is this election going on. i do not know if you have noticed, a presidential election, and they tried to say there is two lanes, the lane and the antiestablishment landed an e. i do not understand if

there was and establishment lane, an antiestablishment lane, kasich.ase o the trashing reagan took because he cannot be controlled by a handful of people in case street in some fancy suite in south carolina. you know who else was in that lane where the establishment fears them? newt gingrich, because i remember when we were running to get the majority and was like what is going to happen now that those crazy republicans have won the house? the budget, changed welfare, and started to grow the economy. and then i think about another god who is never in the establishment lane.

they kept trying to throw this guy, moving him up, trying to knock him out of every position by going higher, and then they forced him to go to washington and be vice president, and when our beloved mckinley died, teddy roosevelt became president, and the whole country, they had to buckle up their seat belt for teddy. what that is about is about change. an attitude that we can make things better, and there is nothing that is off limits. when you are young, i got to tell you, never let anything be on limits, within confined in a straitjacket. shoot for the moon. i got off track and little bit, but i wanted to tell you the story, so i left that little town, and i went to ohio state, and it is a big school. there. and it were something that happened early on in my time, and i got concerned, and so my

uncle told me if you want to make change, start at the top, so i asked for a meeting with the president of the university. but i not easy to get in, badgered him until they would let me in, and there is a lesson for students here -- do not take no for an answer. sometimes it is easier for people to let you do what you want to do that it is for them to keep bugging them. they finally relent. they let me in this meeting with the president, and i went into his office, and it was impressive, evil carpeting, youthful furniture, beautiful leather chairs, and he said what is on your mind, and i told him, i have been in school about a month at ohio state, and i am undecided. but looking around at the lady that kept me out, the beautiful carpeting, and if you are sure, lights, painting, it is beautiful, maybe this is the job for me. what exactly do you do?

he told me about his fundraising responsibilities and his academic responsibilities, and he said the next day he was going to fly to washington have a meeting with president nixon. i said, sir, there is a number of things i would like to talk to him about also. could i go with you? he said, no. said, if i go back to my dorm room and write a letter, would you give it to the president? he had never seen me before, another lesson for students. the lesson is keep walking until somebody tells you to stop, ok? member that. he said, i guess i could do that. i went back to my dorm room and i wrote a letter to the president, new he was going to get it, inviting myself to the white house for a meeting, signed it, sincerely, john casey. if you want to discuss it further, i have time. i will come see you. if you weeks later, i go to my mailbox, and i look a little

glass window, and i the white a little letter, office of the president, and i read it, go upstairs, and i call home. another interesting phone, and i said, i going to need an airline take it. -- ticket. the president would like to have a meeting with me in the oval office. pick upr said, honey, the phone. there something really wrong with johnny. my mother is a very smart lady, but undereducated. they think this is not going to work out. they get me tickets. they drive me to the airport. my mother says, they will not let you in, johnny, but everything will be ok, we will bring you home. i get to the security and walking to the white house, and i'm sitting right outside the oval office a little chair. a man walks of to be conferences, young man, you get five minutes alone with the

president of the united states. what do you think? what you think? i tell you what i think. pants, i, tie, jacket, did not come this way for five lousy minutes. they are out of luck. so i went in and there is the president, and i greet him, he greets me, and we sit down at his desk, and as an 18-year-old first-quarter freshman, i spent 20 minutes alone with the office in the president of the united states, and if you add up all the time i spent in the oval out at the aged of 18 and transferred to clemson, how is that? but there's a couple lessons in there, and mostly when i am on a college campus, and i talked over 10 years on a number of college campuses, i want you to know those that are here today,

shoot for the stars. do you all know that you are made special? do you know that? no, i'm serious. do you know you are made special? 20 think i mean by that? >> that we are created in god's image, we are meant to be unique, and we can do anything that we put our minds to. mr. kasich: if you are secularist, that is ok. i am cool with you, ok? but what he said is right, in my opinion. we are all made special to do something special. and a lot of times through our lives, the wonder, do i really matter, do i really count, what am i worth, why am i all alone?

you remember that you are made special for a purpose, and i want to tell you we are all here at basically the same time. you see, if somebody were to fly over the world and take a picture all of us at one time, it could be viewed as a beautiful mosaic, with all of us doing what we are supposed to do on this earth. and i believe that life is short. and i believe that when we fail to do what we are supposed to do, the mosaic becomes unfilled. and what does that mean? tajh?out this guy, he knows his purpose. who is active in his community. i tell you what he is -- he is a role model. he is a role model for people

both in his direct community and for those who want to look towards a hero that spent his time striving for excellence. some people that are here, they want to be an entrepreneur, they want to create jobs. that is a man or a woman who can provide work to a family. that is a gift. or the nurse -- i do not know if you have been in the hospital lately, we do not spend much time with doctors when you are in the hospital. you got to know who the next nurse is because the nurses are the ones who are there. and what would you do if you were in the hospital with a loved one to the best nurses possible? what is that nurse? smiles, compassion, caring, and my right, ma'am? or if you are a teacher. we do not pay teachers. let's face it, we just do not pay them enough. ok? i do not know that they do

it for the money. i think they do it to change lives, and they do it so that we go back to them 30 years later and say, you really meant something to me. so i want to tell whatever it is, being a doctor and make a phone call at 11:30 at night when you would rather be sleeping, or whether you work at a bank and you got some small businesswoman teetering on the edge and you are trying to take a chance on, there is so much that we can do. politics today, we tend to think that somebody is going to come riding into where we live on a white stallion, fix all our problem. not going to happen. they can dohe top, some things to fix things. big-time things. look, we can have

commonsense regulations and not choke small business. we can reduce taxes, which sends a very important signal to the individual and business that it is ok the economy will be ok. and we can finally get ourselves in a position to balance a budget and start getting people to do their job. those three things -- those three things -- those three things will create jobs. we need to make sure we fixed social security. we need to make sure that we can protect the border. here in aguy red shirt -- we got to fix it. that is what the folks in washington should do. i am going to send a plant in the first 100 days to change the regulatory environment, reduce taxes, have a capital gains tax, to give companies a reasonable to bring their profits home from

europe so the investor, a plan to balance the budget by restraining the growth of government and by transforming the way in which we do entitlements, and getting the plan to fix social security and regal and the pentagon so we have strength in the military, andrea sturm pushing our leadership -- and reestablishing our leadership role in the world, and job training and education, and programs for the poor and health care back to the states, so we can design programs and learn from one another -- as in the first 100 days. and getting the phone numbers of all the moms and dads who have kids in congress so that on mom's birthday i can wish her happy birthday as a president. she calls her kids, and says, do not mess with that president, i like him. that.will do is goingwe got to do back to that little town in

mckees rocks where we were safe, did not have a lot, where we were secure, optimistic, hopeful about our lives in the future and what could be accomplished. it is all with us, right here at this very sweet and beautiful university called clemson, all over this state a south carolina, and began little town, we have to fix education, we have to make sure that those schools are producing the skills for our kids so they can have jobs that exist today and tomorrow, not jobs that existed 50 years ago. we have to do it. you got wrong with drugs? do not wait for somebody else to shop. you show up. and students who are here today, you want to obscure your purpose in life? you mess with drugs. you stay off those drugs. and when you go to those

parties, and you have had your three drinks, and one of your friends says, we can just try overpill in that bowl there, just one time, you get out of that place. i have seen too many young people and their families who mourn you do their addiction or the loss of their life. please do not mess with that stuff, ok? have a great time. going to college is not just about learning, but having a great time, but stay off the pills. it comes to the poor, ok -- tajh?ight, when it comes to the poor, we got to make sure people get trained for a job that exist so they do not become dependent on the government. and nothing wrong with going

down for some of you to spend a little time in that food bank thanking the good lord for what you have. in other words, the glue that holds america together starts where we live, in our homes and in our neighborhoods. that is where it is. for those that live in a faraway place called washington, demand that they do their job, demand that they forget about their reelection and realize that first of all they are not republicans and democrats, first, they are americans first and they need to work together to give every american agents to grow and do well and realize their dreams. and for those people who tell you everything is so bad in america, what, are you kidding me? we have our challenges. the country is awesome, incredible. can we meet the challenges?

are you kidding me? is not that hard. it is as people who let their egos get in the way. all of us, and when we lower them, and when we think about living life figure than ourselves, particularly in public life, and my right, ron, we change the world. he changed it in ohio. i have let the team that changed it of washington. i'm ready to go back one time and change it one more time so we can get this country moving again, but you are my teammates. you are my teammates, and he will do it together, ok? ok. questions. i never go with the person who raises their hand first. you are out of luck, sir. sorry. right here, right here. ok, there we go. comments,ciated your

and i would expand that part of the glue that holds us together as americans as a commitment to service. there are 5 million young americans ready to step and serve their country for a year with programs like the peace corps and americorps if given the opportunity, but unfortunately those opportunities do not exist. we are turning away 80% of young americans who are ready to step forward in faith summer are jake greatest challenges. president, in as the spirit of your comments earlier, will you commit to expanding national service opportunities so that a year of service becomes a common opportunity for you americans? mr. kasich: that was so beautiful put that so beautifully put. i mean, great. obamacarebe against -- i am so that's that -- what i used to be against americorps before i was for it, ok?

i love that old line they use against kerry. i became convinced that america could make a difference after spending time with not volunteers, because they get paid, but they are americorps workers. i think the idea of national service is fantastic, and what i like about what you said is it is a voluntary program, because i have thought, should we make it a requirement. frome such mixed reaction young people about it, but idea morethere would be some resources for these programs to engage people in their communities, i think is a really good idea. --, we have to keep in mind the reason why we do not balance budgets, it is hard to understand, because not that many people are affected, the only people who are affected, farmers, doctors, hospitals,

students, senior citizens, military, soldiers, their dependents, everybody, right? everybody. what happens is it is innate to us for a politician to say yes to everything. when we say yes to everything, we put ourselves $19 trillion in debt, we're spending $225 billion thing interest on the debt, and if interest rates go up, bar the door. if you can spend it on alzheimer's research and on dementia andals and pancreatic cancer or to fight these diseases that we do not always focus on. but they are in the context of housing the budget, you have to have your priorities. a few more resources for a program like that will probably pay off. we have a lot of students here college debt.

many had you off before you ask me. first of all, if you are not in college, then you need to take those college credit courses, and something for the moms and dads and the grandparents that are here, you know how many students we have who graduate from high school thinking they did well and then when they get to college they have to pay tuition to take 11th-grade courses in math and english? cuba that? eric -- do you know that? we need to remediate its online so they are prepared to get the ground running in college. you had the opportunity if you want to control your cost, you go to a community college for a couple years and the transfer those credits to the four-year schools. we will get hassles from the four-year schools, if you want

students to control their debt while getting a good education, studentso permit go three years to a community college. for those that are already here, what are we going to do? first of all, it is really important that the people who lead higher education start to focus on controlling their costs, because the costs are out of control. and i do not think that means you got to go eat up the professors. most of the costs, and i do not know what the cost are clemson, but most of the cost we know from national studies are the administrative costs that could be more easily controlled, but frankly some of the leaders do not want to control it. why? if you are a college president's day, what do you think you want to be tomorrow? think about it. still a college president?

him an a. a college president wants to be a president mark. our president at ohio state proposed that we lease the parking garages and the surface lots because he is saying, why are we running these things? our job is to educate these things, not run a parking garage. the entire faculty, but a lot of the faculty went crazy. i do not understand or opposition. these and put the money into scholarships. that is not their jobs. we have to get these costs under control. back to the national service question. for those that have these high costs, not put the program together yet, but the idea that you can do national service to work off some of that big college debt is important and is

something that has my attention. i want to tell all the people here, and you are not going to get free college education, ok? you might -- i want bernie to tell those guys got his friends in vermont, to give us free ben and jerry's for a year. we have a real problem here with our millennials starting with huge debt. how did it happen? we promised them, you go to school, you will get a good job, and do not worry about the debt, and then they went to college, we have no job growth, and they cannot find a job and the debt is lingering and growing, so we will have to think about ways to do with it. i like the idea of having businesses having incentives to help a student paid down debt as a tool for attracting people, but this issue back to national security -- or national service

is something that might make some sense. i am going to figure it out because it is a problem in our country, and i want our young people to get off to a really good start. so right here, sir. is there hope in the israel-palestinian conflict, and if so, what will you and your secretary of state due to realize that hope? mr. kasich: you think about the goal. the goal for israel is to maintain stability. we are not going to have some kumbaya peace over there. what i would say to you is that number one, they are one of our greatest allies and we are not going to turn our backs on them. i just thought, i was amazed

that the president would not meet with netanyahu when you can to washington. if a foreign leader like that comes to washington, when i am there, we will at least have a cup of coffee. i might not have a bunch of cameras, that you got to show respect, and they are our allies. that is what we have to do. if you have concerns with israel, that you can tell them what your concerns are. but you do not do it out in front of cameras. we do not need to solve the problem of encryption in united states to the controversy that is raging between apple and the fbi. you guys have a soundproof room where we can get five adults in it and figure it out? the same is true with our friends. you got something to tell them, tell them, or do not undermine your friends and trigger enemies with more regard than you are treating her friends, because in life -- we tend to be tougher on our families and friends than we are with people we do not know.

that is not good things to do in foreign policy. we all liked him there will be a two-state solution, but it is easy to sit here and talk about that solution when people are being stabbed inside of israel. go take care of it. we got to make sure that the security of israel is protected, and we cannot walk away from them or undermine them or make them feel insecure while at the same time we want to search for stability, because that is what the goal has to be. every day over there that things can be quiet, there is a victory, and i think that is the way we have to pursue that. yes, sir, way in the back. right here. you jumped up first. we will go to you. >> i am a lot like you. i'm from pennsylvania. mr. kasich: cannot hear. if you are from pennsylvania, we know you are loud enough. >> i went to ohio state.

my grandfather died from black lung as well. i fished in a sulfur black creek. i wasaught a little chub, happy. i got a master's degree from clemson. i have given 21 years to this university. my wife has worked for the same company for 21 years. if either one of us lost our job, be at the poverty level. i have worked hard. i have taken extra jobs on the weekend to give my amalie extra money to do those extra things. i want to talk to you about social dependence. i have two quests for you, sir. , squestions for you ir.if you are president, what are you going to do to stop this growing popularization -- population of citizens who choose not to stay in school, not get the job, but to do that extra work for their

family, who rather would just rely on the government? please tell me what you would do this growing culture -- to this growing culture? more importantly, why should i vote for you? mr. kasich: what is saturday? [laughter] mr. kasich: oh, ok. haven't made up your mind, i don't think there's anything else i can tell you. what are you thinking? enough, heard me long what are you thinking? want to be with you but i

want to hear what you think about this issue. mr. kasich: where did you grow up? [inaudible] mr. kasich: it is a sin to continue to help someone who needs to learn how to help themselves. that's my basic philosophy. [applause] believed thathave with rising economic strength that we cannot leave anybody behind. we cannot let the mentally ill sleep under a bridge or live in prison. you wouldn't believe that. you don't think we should turn addicted.on the drug and the working poor. sometimes it's harder for them to take a pay increase then turn it down because they lose more than they gain. , i was one ofone

the main people to push the welfare reform through congress, which illuminated the entitlement on welfare. that was a significant accomplishment for us. that and balancing the budget. secondly, in our state, we were really in bad shape. 20% of our operating budget in the hole. we had lost 350,000 jobs. up, ourare 400,000 jobs credit is strong, pension is strong. and we are doing well. and when we do well, we want to pull everyone along and give them a chance to stop the one in wee on these programs are helping you, that's not good enough. you have to make the commitment to be personally responsible for

the help you are getting. i was at a grocery store in these twon sunday and ladies -- they are working there all the time and not making a lot of money. they tell me who came into byproducts with food stamps and then go sell them for money. they are pleading with me to fix this. if you are on cash welfare and able-bodied, you have to work 30 hours a week. we take the benefits away from people if they violate that. andou are on food stamps able-bodied, you have to work 20 hours a week. what i want to do and what we're trying to do is to say to the welfare departments because they .ave become bureaucracy in many ways, they don't want a reform.

you go into the welfare department and you have 10 people trying to take you around. i want one caseworker with one person and i want them to be trained we're trying to bring the businesses into the welfare offices. thethe businesses in welfare office so when someone gets something, they look at the business and they say i will train you for a job that exists. i'm telling the welfare departments in ohio "get your ct together." i want them to get training. i want to hold them accountable for taking a job we can train them for. i told the welfare departments if you don't drive that, i will

privatize your department or combine it with another county that will do this because we cannot continue to help people who need to learn how to help themselves and that's my philosophy and we are going to do that. [applause] mr. kasich: and i want to send welfare back here. you write your own welfare laws. let me say one other thing. what do you do? >> i run the aquatic research lab. mr. kasich: so you run that lab. 21 years. doesn't he deserve a round of applause? [applause] look, the key to everything here is growth.

if you don't have growth, you don't have anything. families, communities, universities are stronger with growth. another thing we have to do about these people who we find being dependent a lot of the times. i want you to think about this for a second. a kid grows up in the .eighborhood there a poor sometimes, they wake up and hear gunshots, don't they? to hear gunshots. school. afraid to go to or you have a kid who gets a ride to school with his mother and she is smoking dope in the car. i am not categorizing. i'm saying it happens to kids.

and then we say to them pulled a fireproof straps. they don't know what a bootstrap is. , ande pushing in our state i'm so proud of this, we're spending money and telling businesses that if you adopt a faith-based institution and you adopt a school and go in there, we will match you three dollars for every dollar you spend in we will teach you how to mentor children. in the cincinnati public schools, the graduation rate is 63% but in the one high school in the cincinnati district, the graduation rate is 97%. [applause] none of these kids

lives should be tossed away that we can all help to get them up. you know what you tell them? you tell them "kids, you want to see my car, you want to look at my close, you can be something -- something?" care the drops out, we give them a completely different path. anybody want to leave left behind. it isn't fair to those ladies working and it isn't fair to you. we will keep at it. it will never be perfect. voted this saturday, all right? [applause] i told them when i

was in new hampshire, i was going to south carolina to wear flip-flops and you are doing it. [laughter] mr. kasich: you will get the last word. i don't know where i'm going but i'm going somewhere and i have to be on time. >> i drove up from the university of georgia. sorry. [laughter] know whyed to let you i'm supporting you in hawaii that support is unwavering. that support is unwavering. , a man who iso like my second father killed later, and a few months my parents got a divorce, and a few months later, my dad lost his job. i was in a really dark place for a longtime. it i found hope and i found

in the lord and my friends and now in my presidential candidate i support and i would really appreciate one of those hugs you have been talking about. [applause] moreasich: there's nothing to say then i will tell you this have been out here. that story is so painful. i've heard about pain all across and i've learned we

are going to fast. we need to slow down. people forot enough theirg no one celebrate victories and we don't have enough people that will sit down and cry without young man. don't you see that's what it's about? we can rebuild the country and we can get people on their feet and we can grow but is there any substitute for what you just heard? there isn't. let's renew our spirit. let's care about one another and not be disconnected and together we will rise this country from a position where we doubt to a position to being americans when we are so confident of the future for ourselves and our

children. i have 216-year-olds. 216-year-olds. for my grandchildren one day. thank you and god bless you. [applause]

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mr. kasich: i just called a lady that turned 107. i would go to work for you right now. mr. kasich: maybe i can get you to come straight to the va. 92 years old. fantastic.

i have to take pictures because i have to go. battle of the bulge. unbelievable stuff. our guys that are here are looking into it. if we need it, we will do it.

>> thank you for taking care of social security. mr. kasich: we will get it done. we have to get it done quickly or we dig ourselves in a deeper hole. thank you. >> we are retired military. sorry. i am voting for you. we are retired military. >> i need you to back up a little. thank you. also.ur friends

i need friends. terrific. thank you. >> in new hampshire, you told us important but why do you think you are the best person to end the gridlock in washington? mr. kasich: i get along with everybody. here we go. and i have to go. get your friends. thank you.

that young man, i went in to get -- to go with us to georgia. i just wanted to thank you. i'm from ohio. mr. kasich: where did you go to high school? >> st. charles. mr. kasich: great school. >> 20 thank you for all your help on mental health. we've got to. you have a family member affected? god bless you.

let's take some quick wins because i have to go. >> wiki for being here. mr. kasich: thank you. [indiscernible conversations]

>> i've been following your career for many years. i worked in management in small business. mr. kasich: if we don't have the small business, these kids won't have jobs. thank you. what is -- come on. thank you. we've got to do this very quickly because i have to get out the door. i have to get an airplane. both of you guys. come on. all right. thank you.

thank you. quickly.

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>> as john kasich makes his way outside the room in clemson, south carolina, our phone lines are open. especially south carolina republicans.

we are also checking your tweets. one of the other stories that continue to develop over the hours, making sense of donald trump versus the pope. coming up later, we will share with you the interview we conducted with jim this morning but first, susan in clemson, south carolina. institute the german at clemson. meet kirk brown. he has been covering all the in andtes as they come he was here today. give our viewers a snapshot of the voters in this region.

>> this tends to be a conservative republican area of the state. mr. trump is doing well. it appears senator cruz and senator rubio are spending some time in this area and are in a tough fight for second place here. what kind of conservatives? christian, social? >> a mix of both. a lot of evangelicals. >> is this john kasich territory? did he have a hard time making his message appeal? >> he tends to be more moderate than the other republican candidates. this was the first time he's been into the area. beforejust a couple days the primary. apparently he felt it was important to make at least one stop here. >> what has been your impression of the overall scenes the

candidates? >> a lot have talked about change, a lot of effort to appeal to voters they believe are angry about the way things are going in the federal government. and senator cruz is talking a lot about the supreme court now in the need to get a conservative judge on the court. i think you will find a lot more baptist then catholics. mr. trump seems to have weathered everything that comes his way.

probably around 25% of the total electorate. we are expecting a busy day saturday. host: another tweet from lisa who covers politics on the l.a. times. i going to vote saturday? >> yes. host: is your candidate? caller: ted cruz. host: why? caller: i think he's a man of character. i like marco also. i like most of them.

any of them but trump. and i just hope he don't win. maybe ted cruz, he has convictions. like i said before, i think for this primary, we will find out who is on whose side, you know what i'm saying? i think the lord is watching this race very closely and south carolina has been named the bible belt but we will find out more about the bible belt this round.

host: lula senator cruz yesterday. we will get one of his final event tomorrow. he will be in west columbia, south carolina. richard joining us from gilbert, south carolina. caller: i might outside the capital. have you decided? caller: i have decided. i am voting for donald trump. host: why? caller: i feel like after barack obama ruining this country like he has during his time in

office, we need someone strong like donald trump. i also like the way donald trump is bringing in people to the side of things -- the democrats are no longer the democratic party, they are the socialist party. host: a lot of attention on donald trump. his tone, his demeanor. do you think he has the characteristics to be president? guest: who cares about town? we have been lied to so many times by these establishment politicians. they promised they will do things and a get to washington and don't do anything. donald trump is a businessman, a successful businessman who understands business and the way we have been losing to other countries. america is not strong anymore like it was when i was young. to be an be proud

american and i'm not proud of the way this country has been going. this world has gotten so dangerous with north korea, russia, china all getting together, building these islands for war. host: thank you for the call. another call in south carolina. caller: yes sir. i'm on. host: yes. caller: i fully agree with that unless color. obama has destroyed this country. years as an air traffic controller in the air force going to foreign countries. has by doing or not doing has absolutely been the worst president we have ever

had. trumpoting for donald because i feel he can do the best for all of us. they say a lot when they're running for president. , weedeater get this obama kicked out and stay out of politics. host: a moment at the end of today's townhall meeting. we will go back with susan. >> thank you, steve. who watched the townhall meeting heard him ask the last question. from the university of georgia. how long is the trip? >> a little over an hour. >> tell me how you came in to

ask the last question. did the john kasich people know you were here? >> they didn't really. i feel i'm ready passionate about supporting him and i wanted people to know why and hopefully they can take something from the. -- from that. i want people to know he is a good person and he is a uniter. >> i heard you say it was important. really hear you explain why he is your candidate. >> i support him because he has a record. i like people with records. i like bet it's a good, conservative record. i like his message of putting people before the party. american before republican or democrat. i'm a pretty moderate republican.

he is a human and in his first debate, he gave the gay marriage comment or he said you don't have to agree with it but that doesn't mean i can't love them and celebrate with them. i thought, that's a sane answer. that's what everyone thinks. that's a fine take away from it. when i look at debates or something, i see the same candidate. >> have you been to other k-6 event -- john kasich event? i haven't. i loved it. i was in the zone. i was inspired, moved. i went to a trump rally also for entertainment purposes. i don't support him. i wasn't impressed. i don't want that to be my president.

>> did you know you would end the event on such an emotional note? >> i didn't. him.lad i got to hug that was kind of cool. i'm a big fan of his so it was a big moment for me i got to do that. >> you are a senior majoring in political science. what are you going to do? >> he gives me hope because he was a political scientist. maybe i will be governor one day. i would like to work in a news organization or for his campaign. i would love to be able to get involved. >> thank you for talking with us at this event. >> thank you>>. a tweet from the event today from kirk brown. john kasich now saying he supports the americorps program.

that moment susan was talking about will be tweeted out. you can check it out. shane on the republican line. good afternoon. caller: good afternoon. host: your that's about governor kasich -- your thoughts about governor kasich. republican voter. i'm going to be voting for donald trump. i believe donald trump has the experience we need to move this country forward and the experience to build this economy and that is what we need. we are lacking in military, education funding. has a big government agenda and i believe to make this country great again --

host: thank you. next up, a caller from south carolina. the republican line. go ahead, diane. caller: hello. how are you? host: fine thank you. are you going to vote? caller: i sure am. host: give us a sense of what it is like living in south carolina this past week with the candidates crisscrossing the state. , it has been hectic. it makes me nervous when they argue. i know they have to get their points and their voice out. i think there has been a lot of good coverage. i watch c-span, fox, cnn. i watch all the debates. like there has been a lot of good coverage. host: who is your candidate?

caller: donald trump. host: who have you supported in the past? supported mitt romney. i voted for him. republican but i like republicans believe lease and things more than i do democrats but i did vote for bill clinton. i would not vote for hillary. he was a pretty good president. i voted for ronald reagan. just barely old enough that even to vote for him. then to vote for him. i think we have to have somebody tough in office and you have to make a stand now in the country but you have also got to be able

to make deals. you very much for calling and we will get to more of your calls in just a moment but first, back to clemson, south carolina. susan cole into the thurmond institute, a think tank on campus. let me introduce you to a gentleman who came to this event as an undecided voter. walked in the door undecided and told me you are not. why? >> that is correct. i started out thinking that i would be a trump guy. and i think i kept thinking that hentually in these debates, would act more presidential. that isn't happening. i was really turned off about the attacks on george bush at

the last debate and the fact that rubio and ted cruz fall into this scenario with all of these light of comments. it's just not presidential. one thing i notice about john kasich in the early debates when here were so many people, didn't say much so i couldn't really form an opinion. the last debate, i thought i need to go check this guy out. after today, i will vote for john kasich. susan: what did you see that you like? ande is very value-based vision-driven. he l equated a vision of where he wanted -- l equated -- elo quated a vision of where he wanted to go. aboutred experiences growing up in pennsylvania. i grew up there so i related to

some of that. he did a great job of explaining who he was and what he was about and i have no doubt i will vote for john kasich. host: why is he not getting more traction this year? soyou know, i think we are reality-driven on television and all that if you look at what is going on with trump and rubio uz, it's almost reality television and we seem to like that kind of thing. i think part of john's situation is he hasn't been heard that much. if you look at the debates and look at the amount of time given to him, he didn't get much a say until this last debate. i think the more people hear from him, that will make a difference. susan collins formerly undecided kasich madeom john

the sale today. thank you. from theew poll out fox news channel schilling in south carolina, donald trump contains his lead. at 32%, senator cruz at 19%, senator rubio at 15%. david in georgia on the republican line. good afternoon. i'm noti wanted to say for john kasich. i am for trump. everybody wants to get down on trump because they say he used to be pro-choice. people do change. people see these able body parts -- baby body parts. i went to attempt my family full

-- one to protect my family. -- want to protect my family. i'm not a child molester. look what we got now. he might not be a perfect christian but he does answer questions and does say what he says. taking my call. host: thank you. we appreciate it. steve from greenville, south carolina. caller: i just caught a little of the end of the john kasich event and he seems more like a moderate republican, which is where i am kind of coming from. anything like on medical marijuana or his more

moderate views on gun rights or anything? host: he has spoken about guns but not at this particular event and i don't leave he spoke about medical marijuana host that he has a number of events all on our website at www.c-span.org. we encourage you to check it out. are these issues important to you? caller: i just think that as our country is coming to hopefully more of a moderate stands outside of these christian nuts and think like that, i think it's something to look at and i think it's unfortunate for the republican party some of these issues are being breezed over because they might the two liberal and they don't get attention because -- too liberal and they don't get too much attention because you have to appease the right wing. i just think it's unfortunate.

host: thank you for the call. governor kasich will be in greenville tomorrow. susan is on the campus of clemson university with more participants from today's event with the governor kasich. this will be the last person we are talking to at the john kasich townhome. sleep -- townhall. you are not voting on saturday but you are a super tuesday voter. >> i will be going back to georgia to vote. susan: why did you come today? >> i feel like i have been able to pledge my support to him. i haven't grown up a republican. i don't consider myself aligned with a political party. when you look at people of americanse fear and not giving practical

solutions and just trying to be the loudest, it is worrisome and kind of making enemies out of the other political party. i think john kasich can unite the parties and put an american before being a republican and i respect that. susan: what did you hear today that resonated with you? >> i was really hoping what i saw beforehand would be proven true and whenever he stated arectly that he was not republican first but an american first and he was willing to cross the aisle to get things done, that resonated with me. susan: governor kasich isn't doing so well in the polls. i'm wondering how you see his path going forward. >> i think he needs to keep in mind south carolina is historically one of the most conservative states and the people going along with the fear

mongering will do better here but there are more moderate states ahead and if people keep listening to his message, i think he will resonate with moderate voters. >> are you interested enough that you might start working for him? >> absolutely. i signed up earlier this week and they will be in touch with me for more grassroots movements. i'm looking forward to being involved. susan: thank you for talking to us. host: a note about super tuesday. on the day of the nevada caucuses next tuesday, governor kasich will be holding two campaign events in georgia. coverage continues. the event today with governor kasich is available on our website on www.c-span.org. this morning, jim joined us to talk about the south carolina primary and what to talk about this saturday and moving ahead

to super tuesday. the washington journal is on every morning. here is that conversation. let's get right to it. you talked about south carolina. i want to show our viewers what nikki haley had to say when she endorsed marco rubio. people in this race. good people running for president. i thank them today for their willingness to serve to honor this great country and to make her better. fund the person i thought could do it the best. to find someone with -- the person i thought could do it the best. i wanted someone with convictions but i wanted someone youle enough that remembers work for all the people and i wanted someone that would go and decision the best

people ever made -- go and show my parents that the best decision they ever made was coming to america. [applause] >> we say every day is a great day in south carolina. gentlemen, if we allege marco rubio, every day will be a great day in america. [applause] help me welcome the next president of the united states. let's go to the polls on saturday. [applause] >> what did that due to the race in south carolina, that endorsement? guest: if a big endorsement. nikki haley is popular. her approval rating is high. her personal story, family

history, relative use of foreign elected official reinforced some marco rubio is looking to promote and he needs a bit of a boost. he disappointed in new hampshire after a strong showing in iowa. is generally in contention for second place but is generally behind ted cruz and donald trump in the polls so he could use a bit of a boost. host: what does this mean for senator ted cruz, who has been trying to frame this race since new hampshire as a two-man race? clearly not a two-man race yet. what you are seeing is ted cruz and marco rubio fighting for a certain slice of the conservative electorate. rubio is fighting with jeb bush and john kasich.

cruz is a trump versus going on. host: according to a national poll, ted cruz is on top nationally but some polls show trump on top nationally. ted cruz has ratcheted up his arguments and criticisms of donald trump. i wanted to show our viewers .hat he had to say recently >> view have been threatening lawsuits for your entire adult life. -- you have been threatening lawsuits for your entire adult

life. this takes the cake. to file a you want lawsuit, challenging this act, filed the lawsuit. it is a remarkable contention that plays video of donald trump speaking on is somehowlevision defamation. the operative word from that ad came from donald trump. i understand if a candidate has a record like donald trump, how he consider anyone pointing to his record. if donald trump files a lawsuit he threatens in this letter, that lawsuit will be frivolous and it will result in donald signsand any lawyer that

his name to the pleading being sanctioned in court. host: donald trump is pushing back on this criticism from ted does this poll showing ted cruz is making headway, are his attacks working? guest: when donald trump is attacked and treated like a rmal candidate, it does have an effect on his numbers. being good -- they are each looking at their comparative advantage. ted cruz is a checklist conservative. he can say i had taken conservative positions and voted in a conservative way on these issues. donald trump is more of an attitude conservative. he is appealing to an attitude and anger.

to attack himying on whether he's been consistent on the issues. who: then you have jeb bush has put all his chips in new carolina.and south according to these polls, he's still not faring well in south carolina. at 4%. what is the endorsement of marco rubio from nikki haley mean for jeb bush? be a: it could conceivably changing of the guard. he brought in his brother. he has the support of lindsey graham as the state's senior senator. we could be seeing a younger ,eneration coming to the floor which is what marco rubio would like to see. jeb really needs to do something in south carolina.

he spent a lot of money was not a lot of results. host: here's the headline from the washington times. south carolina will decide bush's campaign. of votershink a lot and donors will make that decision for him. if he does poorly, given he has some organization there and there,out endorsements if he can't make any impact with the voters there, it would be hard to see if he has an impact going forward. host: here's what donald trump had to say yesterday. trump: if we win in south carolina, we could run the table. saw -- know if you [applause] mr. trump: next week in nevada, it will be phenomenal. is 1% in nevada.

why doesn't he just go home? go home to mom. bush is only at 1% in nevada. at 10le of them are percent, 11%. i am at 48%. jeb: what has he done to bush's campaign? the first criticism of being low-energy. she never lets up on jeb bush. guest: -- he never lets up on jeb bush. guest: he views jeb bush as a convenient punching bag. jeb bush is a dynasty figure, old money, party establishment. he is symbolic of what trump and people who support him argue as a republican leadership that has failed. jeb bush wouldn't have been able to raise $100 million without his family name.

in a lot of ways, the family name has hurt him. maybe if he were jeb smith, he would be polling better. host: we are here to take your comments and questions about campaign 2016. we are only a couple days away from the republican primary and the democrats caucusing in nevada saturday. start dialing in. let me go to michael, and independent. caller: i honestly feel like ted cruz is the right choice. donald trump is a great businessman, has great ideas. ted cruz doesn't have that great of a plan.

i would rather take donald trump over hillary clinton. up inhow is it shaping these hypothetical matchup's that polling companies like to do -- does it look? bernie sanders is slightly outperforming hillary clinton and some of the recent matchups. not by a big margin, maybe not even statistically significant and some polls. i think you're seeing deceived -- you're just seeing a generic partisan vote. entry bys a possible the former new york mayor, michael bloomberg, is that a credible strategy?