wisconsin governor scott walker announced today that he is supporting ted cruz for president. he called him a principled constitutional conservative. he ended his own presidential campaign last september. he is one of several former candidates to endorse senator cruz. he has already received the support of jeb bush, carly fiorina, lindsey graham and rick perry. ♪

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the townhall in janesville, wisconsin about an hour ago. it is running later than we thought but we will have it live once it gets underway on c-span. on this day that the wisconsin governor scott walker endorsing ted cruz for president. he made that announcement earlier today on a local radio station. on the line the governor of the state of wisconsin, governor scott walker. gov. walker: good morning. it is a beautiful day. >> i appreciate you coming on to the show. thewant to make announcement about your decision of who you will endorse. gov. walker: absolutely. i have spent a lot of time in prayer about this. , i think these years it is time we elect a strong new leader and i have chosen to endorse ted cruz to be the next president for three simple

reasons -- one, i fundamentally believe he is a constitutional conservative. i know as a governor and talking to other governors across the country, we need a leader in washington who understands our founders intended for the power to be in the states and the hands of the people, not concentrated in washington. ted cruz not only believes that, he shows he is willing to act on that. secondly, i think importantly in weconsin, we have shown that know how to take on the big government special interests and put the power back in the hands of hard-working taxpayers. that is something ted cruz has not only talked about in his campaign, more than just about anybody else in washington, he has shown he is not afraid to take on the big government special interests even sometimes when they are lined with our own party. that is exactly what we need for president. then, third, a very practical

point is i just fundamentally believe if you look at them facts and numbers that ted cruz is the best positioned by far to both win the nomination of the republican party and then go on and effete hillary clinton in the fall -- defeat hillary clinton in the fall. we want conservatives who do what they say and stick to their guns, but also people who can both win the nomination and go on to defeat hillary clinton in the fall. for that reason, i'm proud to endorse ted cruz. , to add one other quick thing -- i want to add one other quick thing. like ing for something said many times in campaigns for governor. i want to be for something. looking at the speeches, the records, looking at what the candidates have said and done in the past, it was an easy call for me to support ted cruz.

>> i'm really struck by your endorsement in the sense that i make an you would endorsement in order to block donald trump. you sound like you were all in on ted cruz. gov. walker: absolutely. i have said it on the campaign trail for governor. i said it last july when i threw my hat in for a while. i think americans know what you are for, not what you are against. i spent a lot of time in prayer and thought about this. i wanted to make a decision on whether a wanted to endorse or not. , if ily, whether or not did, who that would be. for me, just looking at all these facts -- just on a personal level, in a way a lot i americans have not seen, didn't know ted cruz well before

the campaign this past year. i got to see him and know him at a lot of events. we bumped into each other at event across the country. i think the media does not give him all the benefit from what i found personally interacting with him. that is he is a decent man. you loves his family, his wife. he adores his children. he loves his country. he and i are both preachers kids so -- >> we will break away here and take you live to wisconsin with the townhall meeting with donald trump. ♪ mr. trump: thank you, everybody. wow. thank you.

i feel so badly. outside, we have 5000 people and they cannot get in. i feel badly. i want to apologize. we have speakers outside. we have over the 5000 people who cannot get in. does anybody want to leave and give your place to somebody else? >> no. mr. trump: i had a feeling you might be saying that. it is an honor to be with you. it is very important. we are doing very well. millions of votes ahead of cruz. [applause] mr. trump: i called him lyin' ted cruz. i win, as you know. i have been winning all of the evangelical vote. he stands up bible high, puts it down and then he lies. it is amazing to watch him. he said, i'm the only one who can beat donald trump. i said, wait a minute, i have

won like most of the states. i think he had five or six and i had 20 or 22, right? and, i said i cannot believe it. i have millions of votes more. i have like millions of votes more. i will tell you something so important. there is something happening, it is like a movement. it is a movement and we are part of the movement. it is not me. i'm a messenger. this is something that is so special and so amazing and it is on the cover of "time" magazine, every newspaper. it is something that maybe has never happened. they are saying it is a phenomena. the message is what we want. we want jobs, we want jobs. we want trade deals that are smart, not stupid deals.

wisconsin, wrote down some notes -- it is one of those things. i wrote down some notes and it is like devastating. walker came out today. i wrote down notes about wisconsin. [booing] look, he certainly cannot endorse me after what i did to him in the race. look at this. of 2015, wisconsin was facing a $2.2 billion, two-year budget deficit. that is terrible. these are out of books. this is not trump. total state that is $45 billion. maybe somebody will tell me that is wrong. $45 billion is very high. 20,000 fewer people in labor force in wisconsin than seven years ago even though population has grown by 100,000. your population is higher.

what he endorse cruz? he is not doing a great job. he comes into hi with his motore jacket. the motorcycle guys really like trump. [cheering] mr. trump: and he does not look like a motorcycle guide to me. y to me. unemployment rate -- they say they cannot be possible. at 20%, that cannot be possible. is it 20%? effective or regular? effective unemployment rate at 20%. 800,000 foodstamp recipients. middle-class hit very hard due to loss of manufacturing jobs. these are the facts. you know about this.

it goes on and on. wisconsin has lost 15,00000 net jobs to mexico. kasich is running also. he voted for nafta. both of them want tpp> . tpp, both of them want transpacific. that will make nafta look like a baby and wisconsin will be hit so hard. are you a motorcycle guy? i bet. do they love trump? i don't even know. the motorcycle guys love trump. i love the disabled veterans and the veterans. we will take care of our veterans, you know that, right? [applause] what is it about trump that they like? we went to hilton head, different places. there were hundreds and hundreds of bikers. beautiful bikes. lots of harleys, made in

america. beautiful bikes. what is it with them? why do they like me? tell me. [indiscernible] mr. trump: who is that? i love it. i don't know what it is but they like me. i feel good with them. i took a picture. secret service went crazy. these are good people. i appreciate it, fellas. we are going to give you three. keep you free. we are getting rid of isis. we are going to have borders again. here we have something that is pretty interesting. i love you, too. you lost 70,000 jobs to china. 70,000 jobs. 100,000 illegal immigrants living in wisconsin.

taxpayers are paying tens of millions of dollars. i don't know. what happened with walker -- i will finish off with this. he came up to my office about a year ago. i had been a politician for about eight months. the last thing in my monitor one it tmind i wanted to be was a politician. very little debt, tremendous cash flow. i say that not in a bragging way. i say that because that is the kind of thinking we need. we cannot have china ripping us off at mexico and japan and vietnam. we cannot have it and they are ripping us like they have never ripped anybody before. we are rebuilding china, mexico. air-conditioners moving to mexico. ford moving to mexico.

nabisco, home of the wonderful, formerly wonderful oreo which we don't eat anymore. we don't need anymore. it is called enforced diet. you know what? look, we're losing our jobs. you i see that statistic, are losing your jobs. when i went after your governor when he decided to run and i said i will be nice to him. he came up to my office and he handed me a plaque because i supported him. i gave him about $50,000. that is pretty good. i like the fact he was always fighting. to a certain extent, i would like to see somebody being able to make a deal without having to go through that mess. i gave him a lot of money. he came up and gave me a plaque. a beautiful picture of something. i never really got to read it. i put it aside.

my girl found it and she said she just found it. a wonderful woman comes up and i said where is it? she found it under a pile of a lot of other plaques. i will bring it. i will try to get it because i will be here the whole week. i will be in wisconsin the whole week. [applause] win wisconsin, it is going to be pretty much over because we are going to do great. poll came out and i have asked the 8% in new york compared to about 10% -- i have about 78% in new york compared to about 10%. new yorkers are very good. cruz is no good. i think we are going to do great in new york, new jersey.

chris christie endorsed me. a good guy. ben carson endorsed me. sarah palin endorsed me. sheriff joe endorsed me. with evangelicals, i have had so many ministers and pastors endorse me. jerry falwell endorsed me. we have done well with evangelicals. christians, evangelicals, we have done so well. when we went to south carolina, that was going to be cruz's territory except we won in a landslide. this guy follows me around. you were there. he was going to win that in the landslide. i started talking to people and i started saying the good and the bad and the ugly. i have won just about almost every place with evangelicals.

it has been an amazing time. now, i'm here to talk to the people of wisconsin. i have been here before. it is an incredible place but it is a place that has problems. you have a governor that has you convinced it does not have problems. i remember when he was on the campaign trail, i was so nice to him. i'm not going to hit him. i hit jeb instead, right? [applause] right? i hit rand, oh, rand. i hit a lot of people. nice that just with his mouth make things happen that are positive? is reallyith a mouth, with the mouseuth, the heart and the brain. i have a lot of friends that are good with the mouth, but not with the brain.

a poll came out, a nationwide 8, i thinkas trump 4 cruz was second in the mid-20's. kasich was way down. what happened is they showed the poll. it was an nbc poll. an nbc monkey poll, and it was on the today show. morning joe held it up. 48 is pretty good. 45% and i have had about seven people. how do you get 45% when you have seven? how do you crack 50%? the poll was good. way ahead of anybody else. they showed hillary clinton. got a bigger problem with e-mails then i think with bernie, to be honest with you. the bigger problem should be

that. we will find out how honest our country is. poll got -- they put her up. then, they said and then donald trump is winning. that is it. they did not put numbers up. they didn't say i'm doing great. they say that donald trump is winning and they put a slightly negative statistic. wait a minute. they put her numbers up and didn't put mine up. it is so unfair. the press is so dishonest it is unbelievable. [applause] todd thishuck morning on the today show. they put hillary's numbers up and him winning by a lot. i guarantee you one thing, if i was doing poorly, it would be up all morning because they don't like what is happening.

i'm self funding my campaign. i'm putting up my own money. [applause] kasich ared john getting money from the bank industry, and energy industries, pharmaceutical companies. you cannot straighten out this mess. we are in a mess. if you cannot do what you have to do. when millions of dollars are given to cruz and kasich, and millions from different industries, you were not going to be able to say we are going to go against the bank industry to do what is right for the people if the bank industry give you millions of dollars. that is true with hillary. i'm the only one self funding my campaign. what is beautiful is when i was running against jeb in new hampshire. i was in for $2 million and jeb was in for $48 million.

i was first and he was close to last. by the way, did jeb endorse anybody get? did he endorse? that shows you how important it is. i don't even know. he'll endorse -- when you are in war, you have to fight hard. when i fight, i win. you are going to win. you know that. do prettynow, you serious damage because you want to win fast. a lot of people don't love you after you finish. i don't care about them. [applause] in fact, they are asking cruz -- i have won every single debate. i have debated him 11 or 12 times. every single online poll has me winning the debate. he is an ok debator, but he is a

bad talker. he waits. ever see, ego sentence after sentence and stops for about three or four seconds and goes again. it looks like we are in the theater. this is the real world. what happens -- thank you. "trump"]ting mr. trump: that is all right. thank you very much. the sheriff is here. he is a great guy and his people are fantastic. thank you, sheriff. [applause] the only thing i feel guilty about his the people outside. we are going to come back to this area. you guys cannot come, ok? all of the ladies can come, but the guys cannot. but, but, all of the people

outside, we are going to get some. i feel slightly guilty. look, we have a very serious mess on our hands. we have a country that is not protected. a country that is sitting on a big fat bubble that will explode. don't do it after i get in. three days later, it will explode and it will be trump's fault. we are in a big fat, ugly bubble. we have interest rates that are so low that if you are rich -- like me, i can borrow money for any amount. if you are hard-working guy with a great farm or hard-working developer or businessman, you cannot borrow money. think of how bad that is. you can borrow money for nothing practically if you are rich. but if you are rich, you don't need the money. if you are a business person and want to get a loan, you cannot

get it. the regulators are running the bank. dodd-frank has been a disaster. [applause] our rulest disaster ar, and regulations are horrible. we will probably get rid of 85% of them. so many people from this area have told me regulations, regulatory climate is the worst they have ever seen it. i have a friend who was a farmia farmer. it is like a puddle and they consider it a lake. we are going to make our country so great again. we are going to make our country so strong again. our military is going to be so amazing. we will never have to use it. i never wanted to go into iraq. all of these guys think i'm a tough guy so i will be quick with the trigger. i didn't want the trigger. when obama left, he should not have left the way he did. he gave a certain date and the

enemy said it cannot be possible. nobody can be that stupid. i actually don't think it hurt that much that the enemy when not believe anybody would be stupid enough to give a date. they pulled back and then you see what happened. they went in with fury. how about the 50 soldiers he sen t a couple of months ago? he sent 50 of our finest. instead of sending them quietly, what does he do? he sends them in, makes a big press conference that we are sending 50 soldiers into iraq, syria. now, these soldiers have a big target on their back. why can't we just keep our mouth shut? why can't we be unpredictable? [applause] be unpredictable? first of all, it does not even

sound good when you say 50 soldiers. is that good or bad? but then, when you think about it, why do we have to say that? these are extraordinary people. these are our finest and it is a very dangerous mission. why would you tell people that we are sending them in? you keep quiet and let them accomplish something. butknows what has happened, right now they have a big target on their back. people that we have let go at gitmo have now killed americans. that came out yesterday. is anybody surprised? would anybody be surprised? we are keeping it open. they are sending hundreds of millions to run it. i guarantee you can run it a lot cheaper and you would have a lot of money left over. we will get efficiency in government. we will end obamacare.

we will replace it with something so much better and so much less expensive. we are going to get rid of common core. we are going to bring our education local. [applause] ourre going to preserve second amendment. it is under siege. it is totally under siege. christianity is under siege. you take a look. i have been with so many pastors lately. jr. was telling me that i reminded him of his father. what his father did with liberty university. jerry, to top it off, has taken that to a new place. -- probablyg had 50 of the ministers and pastors coming to my office.

they are really under tremendous pressure because of that want to have their -- they don't want their tax-exempt status taken under way. i said why is it that you folks are that way? why do you allow them? why aren't you more forceful? finally, somebody said we have to be careful with our tax-exempt status. we are going to try to get rid of that. that is really terrible. we are going to try to -- i have said that to a lot of evangelicals, a lot of great christians. it has -- it's sort of means that somebody walking down the street has more power than somebody of our religion, christianity, somebody that is an evangelical. they have more power. they have taken the right of free speech away. i said we would try to get rid of that and i think we will be

very successful. how many christians are there? we have men and women. cut it in half and we have a few more women, but we have far more christians than men and women. it is the biggest group of people. we are not allowed, they are not allowed to talk because they are petrified. you saw what was happening with the irs. we are going to try -- usually when i say try, that means i will get it done. [applause] we are going to try very hard and get that brought back. i think it is going to be very because ifnter it the whole evangelical, christian sector gets together, nobody can beat them. when i made the statement about muslims, having them in a temporary basis, i took so much heat. now people are saying trump is sort of right about that because they have seen what happened. [applause]

twelve and i think about what if i'd said it about out what christians, that's what's happened in our country. we can't let it happen. we're going to turn this country around and we're going to be the smart people. we're not going to be the dummies anymore. we're not going to be where china made last year trade eficit $505 billion, with a b, billion. japan, over $100 billion. mexico, $58 billion. we're going to build a wall, and mexico's going to pay for the wall. ok? [applause] i remember recently i was in florida and marco, who is a nice guy, actually. you notice how nice they are after you've defeated them? i like herb i -- everybody i defeat. but when i went against marco, it was supposed to be a very -- ah, boy. well, he started it, right?

just like cruz started the last deal. he started it. but marco came after me very viciously. he wanted to be don rickles, right? and it didn't work. but what happened is, what happened is i won by 20 points. lmost 20 points. [applause] and a lot of these issues we were talking about, big issues. frankly i wish i would have left about two days earlier. i wanted to stay in florida and campaign. i wish i had devoted two more days to ohio because i almost won in ohio. i would have won ohio but i didn't want to take a chance on leaving my beautiful florida alone. because i love florida. i wanted to win that. so if i would have left a couple days earlier, i think i would have won florida probably. but i'm not going to have anything happen in wisconsin. we have to win. if we -- [applause] look, we have to put these politicians in their place,

folks. it's time. believe me, you know, cruz likes to pretend he's an outsider. in the meantime he gets all the establishment support. including your governor. believe me, believe me, they're all establishment. frankly in a way it's worse. because cruz is establishment and yet he's got no relationship with the establishment. he goes and he stands on the floor of the senate for a day and a half and he filibusters and these senators, look, i know, they're tough cookies. i have one of the great people, senator jeff sessions. [applause] nobody better than jeff. and cruz thought he was going to have him. used him in his speech. then he comes out and endorses me. but when you thi of it, look, out of all of these senators, he has one supporter, who is his friend. his friend. by the way, took him plenty of time to do it. but to stand there and to rant and rave for two days and to show people, you know, you can filibuster, in the meantime, nothing was accomplished.

cruz has not accomplished one thing. so he's an insider but it's almost like the man on the street, because he can't get anything done. he disease likes people, he calls people, like, for instance, he said horrible things about the speaker. and, you know, he said, about the speaker? and he said about, separately, mitch mcconnell. he said some terrible things about, how do you get things done when you're calling mitch mcconnell bad names? ok, let's just say bad names. so he's sort of got the worst of all elements. he's an insider totally. but he can get nothing done. he can get nothing done. your new speaker, how do you like paul ryan? how do you like him? you like him? [audience booing] wow. i was told be nice to paul ryan. because -- really? all right. well, he's the speaker. he's a nice guy.

he called me the other day, he was very nice. but i'm very surprised at this statement. wow. are you all republicans? are you mostly conservatives? [cheers and applause] because i don't care. the word -- i always say i'm a commonplace, you know, just a commonsense conservative. so important. a commonsense -- and then somebody told me today that somebody else, i think walker used my term. walker used -- i said, make america great again. i said, make america great again. and i copywrited -- copyrighted the term. then walker was making a speech many months ago and he said, make america great again. because he saw the response i got. the difference is he didn't get any response. to it didn't help. we told him, you can't do that. now i said, a commonsense conservative and today i heard he used the term because the press was up and they interviewed me and they said he's a commonsense conservative. i coined the phrase a few months ago.

but that's what i am. i'm a conservative person. i'm very, very conservative on the military. i'm very conservative with other vets and on health care and on lots of things. but -- and i'm actually very conservative on trade. but a lot of people would say, he's not that conservative on trade because he doesn't believe in free trade. actually, i do believe in free trade. but it's got to be good trade for us, right? the got to be smart trade. it can't be where wisconsin's losing thousands and thousands of jobs, where you folks can't get into china but china comes in here like it's swiss cheese, that's what happens. china does not obey the rules. now, i get along great with china. i made a fortune dealing with china. i have two buildings because of china. big ones in new york and one in san francisco. bank of america. that i have in partnership with a great company. and it's because of china. i sell -- i have the biggest -- one of the big leases with one of their big banks, with the biggest bank in the world actually, from china. millions of and millions of

conledsows to people from china. i like china. i'm not angry at china. i like them. i think they're leaders are doing a great job for them. but our leaders are doing a bad job for us. same with mexico. i get along great. the hispanics, i love the hispanics. i love the hispanics. but their leaders are killing us on the border and trade. i'm not angry at them. i'm angry at our country and our leadership because it's grossly incompetent and we're going to change it around. and we're going to get the best and we're going to get the finest. [applause] so, what i thought -- thank you, folks. thank you. thank you very much. i appreciate it. so, whatever you can could to spread the word, i'll be around, i'm going to green bay, i love that team by the way. talk about a great franchise. i love it. and you have a truly great quarterback. i don't know, he's probably endorsing somebody else. but i don't care.

he's still a great quarterback. tom brady's a friend of mine. he said you have a great quarterback. that's all i need, right? when tom says he's a great quarterback, that's pretty good. but i really want to win wisconsin. because if we can win wisconsin, we're going to put all the stupidity away. we're going to put these stupid, stupid people that allow -- and i'm talking about basically politicians. in many cases, you know, a lot of times people will see deals that are done and, i mean, take a look at the iran deal. how bad is that? just as a deal. forget about countries. but many times people say deals that the country makes, right, deals, and they'll say, how can our politicians be so stupid? they're not stupid. they've been hit by the lobbyists and the special interests and they make a fortune. they get tremendous campaign contributions. they're not stupid. they're doing it for themselves. again, i'm not doing that. i'm doing it for you, i'm working for you. remember, they're not so stupid like you think. [applause] but when you look at the people

funding cruz's campaign, and kasich's campaign, and you look, don't forget, cruz said, oh, the banks, the banks, he's going to be robin hood, he's going to be this great guy. and then in his personal financial disclosure form, he forgot to mention that he borrowed about $1 million from the banks, citibank and goldman sachs, he borrowed $1 million at an interest rate that everybody in this room would be proud to have. a very low interest rate. almost no interest. he forgot to announce it on his personal financial disclosure form. he just forgot. he said, oh, i forgot. i forgot. so then he hits the banks. he's controlled by these people, folks. what he did was absolutely wrong. but they're controlled by these people. i'm controlled by you. i'm going to do the right thing for you. [applause] ok? so remember that. so let's take a few questions.

then i'm off to green bay. i love that. ok. let's go. go ahead. my biker friends. we have to start with them. questioner: -- [inaudible] mr. trump: 22 veterans a day commit suicide, that's correct. questioner: it's over not having a job or ptsd. what's your plans on that? mr. trump: we're going to take care of our veterans so much. many end up killing themselves waiting to see a doctor. 22 a day. a lot of people don't believe that number. they think the almost like an impossible number. how could it be so bad? the actually -- it could be worse than that. we're going to take care of them from the standpoint, they wait, they wait, then they get bad service. and they wait some more. six, seven, eight days. sometimes they'll get to see the doctor and the doctor says, i can't see you now, i'm going on vacation. you see the corruptness. i just left phoenix. we had 21,000 people, sheriff

joe was there, the job he did was incredible. incredible. they had a little protest, right? that protest ended so -- he arrested three people. everyone else scattered. and you have that kind of a sheriff here. you have a tough cookie here. i can tell you. i just met him and i can tell you. but we're going to -- you know, i have a great policy plan and i've gotten a lot of credit for it, it's on donaldjtrump.com. with the veterans, when they're waiting for exorbitant times, even for a little time, they're going to go to the doctor, they're going to go to local doctors or local hospitals, many of the hospitals are dying for business, you know that, they're dying, these hospitals, some of these homs -- hospitals are dying. they're going to get immediate treatment, immediate service, we're going to pate bill. and we're going to save a fortune and they're going to get great s. everybody is in love with it -- great. and everybody is in love with it. that's what's going to happen. we're going to take care of our veterans. if we can't take care of our veterans, we can't take care of anyone.

so we're going to take care of our vets. go ahead. one more from my other biker friend here. questioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: boy, do you look good, though. you look good and tough. i wouldn't want to fight you. do you think i could take new a fight? i don't think so. what do you think? how about we do it right now? that would be great for television. go ahead. but i do have more hair than him. right? go ahead. questioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: i know, it's terrible. hy are you unemployable? questioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: ok. i got it. questioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: i know that. daycare is a problem. uestioner: [inaudible]

fran: i -- mr. trump: i know. questioner: then my wife only gets $100 a month and my child only gets $50 a month. mr. trump: i know. i've heard this many times. questioner: there's this offset between -- mr. trump: here's the problem. our veterans are taking worse -- taken worse care of than illegal immigrants who come into the country illegally. you don't even have to write it down. we're going to do things about it. you know what you're saying, i've heard this so many times before with the daycare and everything else. we are going to take care of our vets. questioner: veteran also don't get an annual increase. you can do an -- mr. trump: by the way, speaking of increase, cruz and kasich want to destroy social security, folks. i want to bring money back into this country. i want to bring jobs into this country. i want to bring tremendous

wealth into this country. i want to take our wealth back from china, from mexico, from all of these countries that have our wealth. we're going to save you social security and we're diagnose to save you medicare. they want to get rid of it. remember that. questioner: also, you can give a veteran with a disability and or permanent total an annual increase automatically. because you can do an executive order on it. right? mr. trump: you could do. i want to not use too many executive orders, folks. executive orders sort of came about more recently. nobody ever heard of an executive order. then all of a sudden obama, because he couldn't get anybody to agree with him, he starts signing them like they're butter. so i want to do away with executive orders for the most part. but look. just do me a favor. stick with me. you're going to be ok. all right? all right? ok? you're going to be ok. i know. what you've said i've heard a hundred times. and the daycare's a huge problem. a huge problem. your wife not working, huge

prok. -- problem. she can't. i bet you have a great wife. good wife? better believe it. go ahead. questioner: i work in education. what are you going to do to help get the local control back -- mr. trump: we're doing it. we're ending common core. your kids in wisconsin are no longer going to be educated in washington, d.c., by bureaucrats. many of whom, i can't say all, but many of whom don't care for your kids. they couldn't care less. they get big fat salaries. your kids are going to be educated locally. we're terminating common core. will you see something that's magic. and i've seen it. where parents and all of these people, they're all distribute uncle, the aunts, they're all on school boards, they get professionals, they have great principals. you can't see what's going on from washington, d.c. many of the people never even come here. they sit behind a desk in washington, they draw big sal are ri and they're tell -- salaries and they're telling you how to educate your kids.

i've seen seen it where the kid graduates and those parents stay on. they love it, because their child went through the system. they love it. and they become so good at it. that's what's going to happen. we're one of the worst in the world in education. we're going to be one of the better ones. not necessarily, you know, i don't know we're going to be sweden, norway, denmark and china. but we're going to come very close. questioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: discipline in school . [applause] i don't think that wisconsin should have a big problem with discipline. do you have a problem with discipline? you're from where? questioner: rochester, minnesota. mr. trump: oh, well that's interesting, ok. we have to get discipline back in the country. forgot about school. [cheers and applause] i mean, i have a case, i have a wonderful guy, campaign manager, you talk about discipline. and you probably saw what happened today. with my campaign -- he's a good guy. corey. by the way, the easiest thing, corey, you're fired. i can't do that. can't do it.

so fortunately i have a taping system. i'm rich. who ave this woman complained, she was talking about maybe being thrown to the floor. all this. then we saw the tapes. did anybody see the tape? what did you think? right? nothing. women -- what did you think? >> he just kept walking. there was nothing wrong. mr. trump: her face stayed the same. if somebody squeezed your arm or did something really bad, don't forget, initially she said, thrown to the floor. but if somebody squeezed your arm or hurt you, wouldn't you start screaming or something? did you see any change in her face? >> i reran it and reran it on a wide screen. there was nothing. mr. trump: it's horrible. it's horrible. honestly, it's horrible. and the best thing i could do

is -- but i can't destroy a man. i'd destroy him. he has a beautiful wife and children. i'm not going to destroy man for that. when i saw that at the tape, at first i said, this is terrible. then i saw the tape. it's my tape. i'm the one that has a tape. it's on the ceiling of this incredible club in jupiter, florida. and we're all leaving. and we have a press conference. right? and the press conference lasted a long time. 45 minutes, so that was enough. i'm leaving with a whole big gang of people. people pushing left and right. left and right. and all of a sudden she bolts into the picture. she grabs me or hits me on the arm. in fact, i'm like this with my arm up. and then he goes by and, i mean, maybe he touched her a little bit. but it was almost like he was trying to keep her off me, right? inaudible] like he was helping her. did you see her fall to the ground?

because she talked about falling. now, after -- i must tell you, her statement changed big league. because she said, go to the ground, you know, all this. i could read it to you. does anybody want to hear it? i want to be accurate. because i like the press to treat me. so before she knew she was on tape, she said, i was jolted backwards. was she jolted backwards? i mean, if she was, her face stayed the same. i was jolted backwards. someone grabbed me tightly by the arm. and yanked me down. campaign managers aren't supposed to forcefully throw reporters to the ground. except she never went to the ground. she never even came -- she never even flinched. if somebody grabs you, even one of the guys, even the biningers, if somebody grabs even a biker, or punches you a little bit, you're off, right? the toughest guy, the toughest

woman, look at her face. it's zero. they're going to destroy a man's life? and then i have cruz saying, oh, that was a terrible thing. that was a terrible thing. let me tell you something, folks. if i win, if i lose, i didn't need to do this. i'm doing this because i just had a beautiful grandchild. [applause] ivanka and jerrod, beautiful, beautiful grandchild. i'm very proud. my eighth. i'm doing this all for them. i didn't need to do this. this is not -- i had no idea, you know, maybe none of us did. i had no idea the message was going to get across. it's a message of competent. it's a -- competence. it really is. it's a message of common sense and it's a message of competence. i had no idea that we have millions of more votes than we had when we had that stiff mitt romney, a total stiff, running. who by the way, he's a dope. he's not a smart person. i'll tell you right now. let me tell but him. that was an election that he should have won and he lost. and he should just go away and let the big boys do it now.

[cheers and applause] that's an election that should have been won. i tell you what, i helped john mccain, and at that time, honestly, that was a tough deal for him. the world was sort of collapsing. that was a tough one. but he lost. and i helped mitt romney a lot and he lost. and i said, this time, we're going to do it ourselves. we're going to win. we're going to win. so just remember that. we're going to win because of wisconsin. a couple more questions. is how about a woman. go ahead, go ahead. great. uestioner: [inaudible] mr. trump: right. she's so smart, i don't want them to know. i don't want to tell putin what i'm thinking. she's so smart. what you just said -- what does

that say? what about -- don't worry about ukraine. they're going to be type of. just don't ask me why. this world of politics. mr. trump, you said -- don't forget, i'm the one who said take the oil. i was right. they didn't. you know who has the oil right now? isis has the oil. you know that libya, isis has all that oil from gaddafi. all of that big oil from gaddafi. i took it. we're like a bunch of dummies. why aren't we creating a nice big circle so they can't get the oil out? why aren't we taking that oil back? look, look, i'm the one that says, though, i don't want to say everything. if i win, i have a good chance of winning, i'm the frontrunner by a lot. i want to go in there, i want to knock the hell out of isis. i don't want to tell all -- i really mean this. i don't want to tell everybody in this room, and look at all the cameras that are going now. i don't want to tell the world what i'm going to do. because they're watching. just let me do it, folks. i will do it, you'll be so

happy. you don't have to know the details. ok? let me do it. i use the word before, we have to be a little bit unpredictable. we can't say, well, we're going to go and take on march 14, and then we're going to hit them from the front, and then we're going to hit them from the back. obama did that eight months action with one of the cities. he said, we're going in next week. look, folks, folks, folks, you know, you have to trust -- there has to be some trust, right? do you trust? we've got to stop the stupid. that's why i really think your question is so great. i don't want to hear how you're going to do it, mr. trump, just do it. i'll do it. ok? i love that. that woman. that woman. thank you, honey. thank you. yes, go ahead. questioner: mr. trump, melissa wants to thank you. she has something to say. questioner: hi, mr. trump.

i was miss wisconsin-u.s.a. in 2005. mr. trump: i can see why. questioner: thank you. you have been -- i just want to say thank you. you saved me. in so many ways. in recent years, i've been struggling with an incurable illness and i'm on home care now. it was caused by a doctor's medical negligence. in those dark days, fighting, right now, all the tubes have been removed and i have a do not recesstate order and i have a 7-year-old son. in those days, in the hospital, i received from you a hand-written letter that said, to the bravest woman i know. mr. trump: i remember that. i remember that. questioner: you -- mr. trump: such a wonderful, beautiful woman. just an amazing woman. are you coming along ok?

questioner: no, sir. but that's ok. because i'm here right now to thank you in person and that was my biggest dream. and i wanted to thank you because through you and your organizations, my son, who is mexican american, 7 years old, through your organizations and just being able to stand on that stage back in 2005, the outpouring of love that came from that, ultimately provided my son when he graduates high school with a full ride to college. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: that's great. questioner: because of you. mr. trump: we're going to watch him. tanner, watch him. we're going to be watching your boy, ok? but you're going to hopefully be around. you're not going to have to have anybody watching. we'll be helping you. questioner: thank you. god bless you. and just, you know, he's a mexican american. and because of your efforts, have sent him to college and

i've been writing letters to him for when i'm in heaven, to tell him what you've done for him. he has a great responsibility to pay it forward. just as you have done for us. i can't thank you enough. mr. trump: that's so nice. thank you, honey. thank you. i'm sorry. i have to go down and say hello. is that ok? [applause] >> god bless you. here you go, mr. trump. here you go. mr. trump: wow. what a great woman that is. that's a great woman. great mother. i remember that. and it's heartbreaking.

but something beautiful's going to happen. you watch. something beautiful is going to happen. folks, i just want to say, i'd almost like to leave it on that. because we can't top that. that is so amazing. thank you. thank you. [applause] that little -- very sad, but i think it's going to be really a story of hope. and something really great is going to happen out of that. you watch. but it sort of tells me, when i first did this people said, oh, it will cost a lot. forgetting about the campaign. that's peanuts by comparison. i've spent tens of millions of dollars. the big thing i lost, certain businesses, i owned the miss universe pageant. i bought it inexpensively 15 years ago. because of the fact that they thought i was against this one or that one, i had a hard time with television. the good news is i sold it for

a wonderful -- i was very happy, ok, with that. but i didn't want to sell it. but i sold it. i built it to really a very good company. we did a great job with that company. miss universe, miss u.s.a., miss teen u.s.a. other businesses, i sort of -- like the shirts and ties with macy's. macy's was unbelievable -- unbelievably disloyal because of illegal immigration. they ended the shirt size -- who cares. it's not a big deal. but i'm doing something -- nobody else is giving up what i'm giving. when cruz runs he runs. if he wins, great, if he loses, great. it's him. he's a politician. they just run, they win, they lose, who knows. but these guys run for office. that's all they do. i've always heard that if you're a very successful person, you can't run for office especially for president. you can't run for president. i can see it. i have so much false press about me. things that are so false, you know, i saw the other day on television, there were like 50 -- did you see it, 56,000

negative ads on me. 56,000. in fact, in florida, i own dur al, in florida, we had the tournament there two weeks ago. adam scott, the great adam scott. great golfer. he was winning. in between shots i told you this after the victory speech, they've had commercials and they were all about trump. negative. horrible, commegtive -- negative commercials. mostly false. but it came out the other day, i think it said $68 million, $55 -- 55,000 negative ads. negative ads. and when i was running in florida, i said, how is it possible to win? with all of this, i knew it, you couldn't turn -- in florida, where i was, you couldn't turn on the television without seeing trump commercials. sometimes four, five in a row. and they were horrendous. done by very, very bad people. very bad, evil people. and i said, how is it possible to win? and god helped me. honestly. because mr. wynne: in a landslide.

i won by almost 20%. [applause] and now they're doing it here. club for growth. it's a crooked outfit. look, club for growth, you ever hear of this, club for growth, a friends of mine comes, he's a conservative guy, would you do me a favor, see club for growth? i said, what's club for growth? he said, well, they want to talk to you. i said, all right. send them up. i have to see people i wouldn't normally. club for growth. they come up to my office. this guy was, i think a former congressman, and he tells me a little bit about club for growth, i'm falling asleep. then he goes, would you contribute $1 million? i said, $1 million, for what? i didn't even know you, i never met you. i said, do me a favor, i'm trying to be nice, i said, go back, write me a little note if you can, and he was stupid enough to write me a note. he writes me a letter asking for $1 million. i let him know that i'm not interested.

you can be rich, i'd rather take $1 million and throw it all over this room. i'd rather it give it to you for your boy, ok? and so whap what has -- so happens is they write me a letter, put it in writing, has anyone seen this letter they wrote? it's incredible. they write me a letter. it's like extortion. . they're doing ads all over wisconsin, club for growth. they did them all over florida about eminent domain. without eminent domain you would haven't schools, hospitals, bridges. you need eminent domain. if something's in your way and you're building a highway, if you're going to produce 7,000 jobs and you need the property -- you know, it's funny all these candidates want the keystone pipe line. i like it too. they have a whole thing on eminent domain because without

eminent domain they wouldn't have 15 feet. they wouldn't be able to build it. they love the keystone pipeline and it's based on eminent domain. because they've got to go from canada where cruz was born to texas. don't forget that. remember what i said. i'm going to win. just remember whey said. i'm going to win. and i thank you, babe. ooh, you are so amazing. you are so amazing. i'm going to win. but remember this. if for some reason he gets the phenomenon nation, the first ing -- remember i'm a good prognosticator, i'm a good predictor. the first thing is that they're going to sue. ted cruz, he was born in canada. lived there for four years. the head of the harvard law school, one of the top people in

the business in terms of constitution is saying that, you know, that he's wrong. and we have other people that is much stronger than even that. so remember this. if cruz gets lucky and he wins -- and the only way he gets lucky -- because it's all establishment. i'm not the establishment. i don't take their money. i don't hire their people. i don't do any of their stuff. so you have a disadvantage. but if cruz wins, just remember what i said. he's not going to win, but if he does. if he gets the nomination, within the first few days he will be sued by the democrats that he doesn't have the right to be president. and i think they're right because he wasn't born on our soil. he wasn't born -- he's not a natural-born citizen. he's not a natural-born citizen. i don't like to make a big deal of this. but it was just brought up by somebody. he is not a natural-born

citizen. so if for some reason he should get the nomination, i really believe you're wasting your time. and boy, are we going to have a problem. you're going to have somebody who's going to be sued. probably will lose the lawsuit. he lived there for four years. mother was there. and he was a canadian citizen joint with u.s. until 14 or 15 months ago. did anyone know that? so he's a senator from texas only because of the great sarah palin. without sarah palin he could are have never won that election. it was a fluke. but he was the senator from texas. he lived -- he's a joint citizen. he finally gave up his citizenship to canada 16 months ago. he said, oh, i didn't know i was a citizen of candidate. just like he didn't know that goldman sachs and city bank gave him money. i mean, this guy -- you just have to study it, folks.

again, i'm doing this. we're going to win. we're going to turn this country around. we're going to make america great. we're going to win a lot but you have to know the facts. i love you all. i love you all. thank you. thank you. i love you all. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. get out there and vote. thank you. thank you. ♪ hank you, everybody. ♪ hank you, everybody.

>> donald trump in wisconsin, one of several stops for the candidate in wisconsin before next tuesday's primary in that state. he's heading down in milwaukee about 45 minutes away for a town hall this evening that's airing on cnn. then tomorrow two of them scheduled. you can find this on c-span.org. donald trump met last week with the washington board editorial board. the meeting lasted just over an hour. it included questions about foreign affairs. the full transcript and audio available online at washingtonpost.com. the editorial board read this article calling him a radical risk if elected. they acknowledged that the paper had been critical of his candidacy but gave him credit

for sitting down with him. more on that from today's washington journal. morning, het your interview with mr. trump last week. how did it come about? -- howicted on schedule did it get on your schedule? the majornvited , and hiss to come in spokeswoman has been saying for a long time that he would like to do it. just before we did, monday?said how about he is the first one to accept our invitation. host: what were the ground rules? guest: on the record, just my editorial board, we are very separate from the new side.

-- news side. what i said is we would like an interview that focuses more on substance than on the horse race. and we would like it to be on the record, and that was something they were fine with. host: and there was not a conversation about it should be on or off the record? guest: there was a conversation, but there was no dispute if they were happy to be on the record. host: and it was the editorial team in the room. it was in the room for donald trump's campaign? guest: he was there with his spokeswoman and campaign manager . there might have been one other, but i think that was it. host: he met with you for more than an hour. there is an audio recording. why not cameras? guest: that is a good question. my video team would like to know the same thing.

[laughter] we just had a couple of days to set it up, we do not think about it too much. sometimes i think video can get in the way, as well as being useful. there was no great ideological reason, we just ended up doing it this way. host: you asked several questions yourself. overall what did you make of his interest to the questions? guest: first of all, i give him credit for coming in will -- on the has been editorial page we have been very critical of him and have had some have things to say. that is why we wanted to give him a chance to address our concerns on the record. and he did, and the tone of the conversation is great and very cordial and polite.

i do not know if you remember when ben carson endorsed tr there are two different tribes, when you talk to them versus us the relish. i can see why he has an impression. that editorial after your meeting, you wrote that unfortunately the visit provided no reassurance regarding his fitness for the presidency. i am not a radical person, he told us as he was leaving, but his answers left little doubt how radical your risk the nation would be taking in entrusting the white house to him. why did you write that? guest: i think he would be a huge risk for the country. i think he is a risk to our democratic system on many levels. , to the extenth

policy can be th learned, we disagree with a lot of those. host: your critical of his foreign-policy agenda as well . there were comments he made a couple of times about the role of nato in this country. this was the or the attacks in brussels i very next day. but he has tweeted out and said the same things he said in that washington post meeting. i want to play for you a little of the exchange you had on this issue. >> i see nato as a good thing to have. i look at the ukraine situation ukraine is a country that affects us far less than it is other countries in nato, and yet we're doing all of the lifting. i say why is germany not dealing with this?

why is it that other countries that are in the vicinity of ukraine are not dealing with this? why are we always the one that war,ading the third world potentially? i think the concept of nato is good, but i do think that the united states has to have some help. pay hundreds of billions of dollars every year into other countries that are technically wealthier than we are. , weany, japan, south korea spend billions of dollars on saudi arabia, and have nothing for it. and i say why?

wouldd go in and i structure a much different deal with them. it would be a much better deal. when you look at the kind of money our countries losing, we cannot afford to do this. host: what did you make of his answer? guest: i think he is wrong on just about every level. in one sense, the complaints about our lives is not different from what americans have been saying for decades. there are burdens to being the leader of the free world. one of those burdens always dealing like you are paying more than your fair share. the united states has been fighting with germany over this forever, with japan, with france, it is natural. but i think you listen to the , he'sty of what he said questioning more than the burden sharing. he is questioning the u.s. being a leader in the world.

the would it mean for dollar to be the international currency? it is a very different, radical new of he would hold back, strikeout when he felt we were under attack, but otherwise pull in and i think it's threatens the system that has more or less kept the peace for 70 years and allowed europe antiseizure to become prosperous over the last half-century in a very risky way. host: you write in your column u.s. leadership matters today just as it did after world war ii. guest: there were a lot of people than also who did not think we should go to war, and then afterwards were people who said why are we doing the marshall plan, isn't it time to come home? i have we already spend a lot

saving them? the marshall plan turned out to be a great investment, not only e, but for the united states. criticism of donald trump foreign policy, saying it is dangerous babbling for policy. then you have the wall street journal this morning with their editorial. the republicans would accelerate under retreat begun on -- president obama. critical ofe been president obama in some respects, particularly a retreat from the middle east, which i think has not had good results. president obama has also talked about nationbuilding at home.

they do not think he has made the case to the american people as a president should why u.s. leadership is important. , obama ise comparison fundamentally still committed to u.s. alliances and he has worked with europe and china and others to come up with a climate change treaty. he has tried to negotiate a even though i might differ with some of his policies, he is an internationalist. in u.s.believe leadership there is more that separates them that unites them. host: let's get some calls. democrat, from nevada. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm very happy that we have c-span. what a wonderful program. thank you, sir for being a part of it.

i am a retired political science teacher. i have a simple question. alleges that there are two donald trump assuming that mr. carson is correct, i would like to know how the american people are supposed to know which donald trump will show up in the war room when we have a crisis with great pressure on it, and the president has to make a decision about the use of military power. how do we know which one? will it be the bombastic donald trump, or the relaxed conversational tone of the interview station? how will the american people know how this man will react in the most important role in president has? >> that is a great question. i guess my answer would be there are not two donald trump's. there is one donald trump and he

for the spread the one who says i would like to smash that protesters face in, or in the good old days he would taken out of your on a stretcher, that is donald trump. the fact that he can then enter an editorial boardroom and speak in a different tone of voice, my mind does not negate the damage that that kind of campaigning dust and has done. course, does not take away the fact that they are the same person. unknownthe risk and the that you ask about of what would happen when he goes into the war room, i think that is a good question. host: you and others from the editorial board repeatedly asked him about condoning violence and

the distinction he is try to make. what did you think about the answers he gave you? guest: if you look at the transcript for listen, you will see that keeps coming back to the idea that these protesters are terrible people. up,e once were getting beat or who he wishes would get beaten up. theyep coming back and say might be terrible people, i am not granting one way or the other, but does that excuse condoning the violence, and if you offer to pay their legal fees, are you not condoning the violence? he never really answers the question. he just coming back to the idea that they are terrible people. i would say in a democratic is am, the right response protesters disrupted is let the police handed, that handle it, not to threaten violence. host: we're talking about the

washington post interview with donald trump. he sat down with them for more than an hour. timeser gave the new york interview about his foreign-policy. a lot in the paper following up on those conversations about donald trump and his vision for this country if he were to win the nomination. we are taking your questions and comments about that as well as other campaign news. we go to my vermont, republican line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my comment. regard to mr. trump's ability to meet the president, i am 58 years old. i have three children and four grandchildren. i will probably have more

grandchildren coming my way. what i see here in the past, not just mr. obama but mr. bush and mr. clinton, the baby boomer that startedere after george bush senior, we have tried this. this type of leadership. terrorist attracts were would mr. clinton was there -- attacks were when mr. clinton was there with mr. bush. havee continuing to attacks all over the world now. that wehink it is time might want to try a different type of leadership in this country.

host: would you point to? for me, mr. trump is an excellent choice, i believe. of course, being from vermont, and mr. sanders, outstanding intlemen, i must tell you, just want him for my children particularly, because i will not be distressed one way or the other. i think there is an thinktandable tendency to we have a lot of problems, we have been fighting al qaeda now for 15 years or 20 years and there are still terrorists out so let's try something lately go outside the box.

i can understand the temptation, i think it is a risky one because i think these problems really are difficult, and if you go back through history, there is no president has ever come out of a term with a perfect record. there is always successes and failures. bush and obama are quite different people one from another. it is true they are all someoneans, but saying who has never been involved in does not know much about the is likely to produce more problems, not fewer. i think there is a danger in the rather provoked bernie sanders and donald trump were constantly talking about how terrible things are in the country is run by losers and everybody is going

backwards. it overstates how terrible things are, things in the united states are not best terrible, and we are not a poor country compared to other countries as trump would say. it leads to risk taking, which in the end could leave us a lot even though ing understand why people are dissatisfied with the current political situation. host: they are also looking for somebody who quote, tells it like it is. this is something you saw in many supporters in these primary caucuses. people who vote for him say it is because he tells it like it is. on one level that is understandable. we are tired of scripted politicians and politicians to sound funny when they talk.

hand, a lot ofr what trump says is not true. you remember a few months ago, he was a thousands of muslims had celebrated after 9/11. that this was in new jersey, in the united states. it was false. it was proved to be false. but he kept saying it. i think there is a difference beween being willing to insulting, and sounding spontaneous, and telling it like it is. those things are not necessarily the same. host: independent line from alabama. you're next. caller: good morning. i think maybe the media keeps looking into character flaws and problems with the candidates, and i think the biggest problem is they are all politicians. money and influence are

basically the rule. situation, wee keep hearing numbers on that. find this to out. essentially, it is an 80% default right now. the fall are not paying. people say it is a great plan, which need to execute it better. i think people are getting tired statuspoliticians quo. sanders was a draft dodger whose family was rescued in germany by american blood. now he is a socialist. how in the world is that not the story of the day that he gets that support in a free country? guest: there's a lot wrapped up

in question. i think the health care is a good example of why things are difficult. washington is very divided these days. fines and the old days my have been result with some compromise , but they have become battles to the death. you obamacare has been pretty -- i thinkl obamacare has been pretty successful in bending the cost curve, making health-care expenses slow. but it was never going to be a solution to every problem. because republicans and democrats in washington have to use every battle to fund raise than two look forward to the

next election, the singular presented in apocalyptic terms. where peopleuation are either disappointed that it did not turn out to be this great savior, or they look at obamacare is the cause of everything that is wrong. i think both are exaggerations. host: democrat line, good morning. c-span andnk you for for the commentary. the bookenjoy festivals and the many kinds of tomentary that comes forward elevate and thomas. this gentleman is a very reasoned and seasoned journalist. i think him for his service in that role. relates tot as it this dichotomy that is happening in our country right now, i think this is years in the making, where we now have a lived -- i amas

almost 60. i have a mother that is in her 90's. i am a black american, my husband is a physician. i have two who are in medical school. we are not a common story that has been promoted on television about black families. a have an america that is diverse america, and international and integrated america. reachingourse is what this dichotomy right now. south lived in north and and internationally, i consider myself an appreciative person of the world economy. when we talk about donald trump, himselfo is promoting in a reality-based media with

twitter and the dynamic newspapers losing their , myorial selections question to the journalists is how do you feel that the dynamic of the medium of technology is imprinting this kind of --lity-based i will have fred hiatt jump in. guest: great question. thank you. i think we are in a totally new world when it comes to the media , and it is good and bad. there is no question that a lot people listen to just the television station where they

could be sure there are only going to hear what they agree with, or just go to the websites where they can be sure they will only read what they agree with. i think that can foster partisanship. it exaggerates this sense where andle have different facts do not see the world in the same way. on the other hand, to be more positive about it, the transcript of our interview with mr. trump has been one of the most read things on our website for more than a week now. we can see by how long people spend their that most people are reading the whole thing, and we are reaching what i think was a very substantive, useful conversation. we are reaching many more people

than we ever could have. there are a lot of people out there who are trying to read this for themselves. to just read our news stories or editorials, they want to have the actual words of the candidate. i think it is a world, where as you say, it can lead to fracturing, but it also has positive aspects in terms of people being able to educate themselves in ways they never could before. host: what about your editorial last week as the gop slides toward mr. trump? he did not specifically say mr. trump's name. -- why you call him a not so innocent bystander? guest: it a tough thing right now to be a republican leader who does not support trump. i understand that. but i think it is a time when the country needs its leaders to

stand up and be heard from. , one of theember republican debates, when all of the other candidates were asked, what do you think of donald trump, and they all said he is dangerous, it would be a disaster, and then they were asked if you would be -- if they would vote for him, and they said yes. you cannot have it both ways. if he is really dangerous and a threat to democracy, and a departure from everything we have known, then something has to be more important even than party loyalty. did you hear from paul ryan's office after he wrote that editorial? guest: i do not like to talk about my phone calls one way or the other. i think the feeling would be, and i understand this, at that mr. wright has to chair the

convention this summer. he has to be the neutral party as chairman. a lot of what he said in that speech was great. i understand, he is in a difficult position. invitations tout all candidates to come sit down. donald trump was the first. can you tell us who is coming next? guest: i wish i could. i have had expressions of interest, but nothing is currently scheduled at the moment. what we offer would be of interest to any of them, because we are saying we will top substance -- top substance and put the transcript of justice we did with donald trump, and people can see your words without the filter of the washington post. host: i want to talk to you about another part of conversation that you had over libel laws.

he started out, when you asked him to go ahead and start at the beginning of your seductive he started out by saying i am not sure why i am here, the washington post has been very bad to me, and he questioned on the way over why he would be the the going to the washington post office to sit down with all of you. the conversation that followed that with about the media. >> given the supreme court ruling on libel, how would you change the law? i would have get my lawyers into tell you, but i would loosen them up. right washington posts badly about me, and they do, i read some of the stories coming up here. staff, why are we wasting our time when the hatred is so enormous?

i do a good job. i have thousands of employees, i do a good job. i have a very rational person, i am a very same person. a read articles by you and and the level of hatred is so incredible i actually said why am i doing this, why am i even hear? are you -- >> it was wrong. the washington post never calls me. i never had a call why did you do this or why did you do that. they just treat me like ryan's horrible human being, which i am me know that are ever calls

-- which i am not. nobody ever calls me. host: what were you thinking when you sat and listened to the answer? guest: we have been critical. i respected his willingness to come talk to us anyway. what struck me about that was when he said i would have to ask my lawyers, because here he has said he wants to change libel laws, which is a pretty fundamental part of american democracy. the question is, how would you do it? it is a portion of the constitution that has been interpreted in supreme court cases that the president cannot change. it is a pretty fundamental thing to say. yet, by his own accounting, he really has not thought through how you would go about doing it typical ofnk that is a lot of his statements. it is very difficult to have a democratic debate when a

candidate puts something out there, but then does not have the policy or says, i will figure it out later or i will hires people. how do you debate the? it is the end of the conversation when it should be the beginning of the conversation. host: let's go back to our calls. caller: good morning. i have two questions on two candidates. i've questions on bernie sanders and they say she is -- he is a socialist communist, but what i have checked out is he is a social democrat. that is what our founding fathers found in our country on. have is onuestion i ted cruz. his father was a cuban soldier who worked for castor and then

came over to canada. , not onorn in canada american soil. i do not know why that has changed since i was a kid, you had to be born on u.s. territory . tot: we will have mr. hiatt those questions. guest: bernie sanders, i take him at his word. he defines democratic socialist as more or less what we used to think of as a big government democrat. he does not want government to take over the means of production, which is how karl marx would have defined socialism, but he was government to do a lot more for vulnerable people. health care, so forth. we can have a debate on what

parts of that are good ideas and what parts are not on ted cruz's birthplace -- parts are not. birthplace, there is some disagreement about this. some say even if you're born to american parents, you are immediately naturalized and you are eligible. professorop-ed from a at the university of delaware law school that got a lot of readers. she made the case that that is not a natural born means. been tested and the lawyers wonder who would have standing to test it. thinkms to be most people of this that way. host: the editorial board has been critical of donald trump and ted cruz. democrat line, good morning.

question or comment? we will move on to jim in ohio. you're on the air. caller: first thing i want to say is i believe that donald trump is the only possibility we have of saving this country. i have heard some criticism of mr. trump saying that he has wise people to help him. he is smart enough to realize he does not know all the just all the questions of everything that wouldng to happen heard advisers have that specialized knowledge in that particular area. guest: i think every president has to do that right i think it would be more reassuring if we saw people around him, and we

have not seen much of that. i think good advisers can only take you so far. he didn't want the greatest cabinet, one thing we have not talked about today is the divisiveness of a lot of what trump has been saying, starting when he declared he would send rapists across the border. these cases, it is not so much that the policy should not be debated, but when you talk about the muslims as if it is one thing, or the blacks, your stereotyping and separating the country at a time when i would rather have a president who is trying to bring people together and promote conversation across barriers. host: when you pressed him on specifics for for policy, whether it was pressured china with trade or whatever, he said

i am not going to tell you everything that i would do, because that would tell our enemies the playbook you pressed him on this theory of unpredictable it. tell us why. guest: there are times when it is true you do not want to telegraph everything, but in general, you want to have allies in the world, they have to know if they can count on you. to havee very dangerous ambiguity, because if you are worried about whether china is going to be aggressive against japan or against the philippines, it is important for china to know whether the united states is going to stand with its allies that can affect chinese behavior as well as the allied behavior. what and then reaction to donald trump has said recently about pulling out of south korea. a south korea will i say his remarks are shocking.

that he saysay they should rely on their own nuclear weapons. that is a window to how quickly and more dangerous the world be -- could become. caller: with all due respect, you're the reason that i think surprised one election day in a landslide for trump. you're in the washington bottle -- bubble. you do know you are in the tank for hillary clinton. i do not know how anyone can consider voting for her. response? ,uest: in the washington post

guilty as charged. we have not endorsed anybody. host: will you? guest: we probably will in the general election will have to see who the candidates are. host: do you think your endorsement house way like they used to? guest: it depends on the race. in some local elections, our endorsements have some sway. in the presidential and even in the local, what i think we aim for is not to decide the election or tell people how to vote. can do most we usefully is tell people how we are think about a race and hopefully spark people to think whenusly about an election they cast their vote, take on board the issues we think are important.

i do not think there was every day when the washing post we tell people -- every day when the washington post would tell people how to vote. you have been an editor since 2000, you joined the board in 1996. you have worked for the washington post almost all of your career. caller on our democrat line. caller: i was just wondering, i thought maybe donald trump is thinking outside the box because worsee have been times like door for incident -- like dooarfur and sudan.

the nato is what nato is. it was designed to between north america and europe. worse ofmanaged the dissolution the soviet union in the warsaw pact. but terrible things still happen nigeria andorld in southeast asia. i did not lead to say that the world has been a piece for 70 years, and thank you for pointing that out. host: at the end of the interview, your deputy editor , shehe editorial page wrote a column about her exchange with donald trump. she said the meeting ended, and i think him for taking my turned to med he

and said i really hope i answered your question, and added casually with a smile, beautiful. smile, andespond or walked out to meet my colleagues really before it went to the elevator. i was signed by the fact that he thought it was ok to comment on my appearance. did you have any comment? i did not hear it, i was speaking with another colleague. i was surprised to hear what and thoughts. not on our appearance. said yous why you encouraged her to write about it. maker readers come again, up their own mind. >> there is a lot to digest.

you can listen, read the entire thing on the washington post website. of the editorial page. thank you for being he >> c-span's "washington journal" live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up wednesday morning, the president of plows shares fund and the nuclear impact. he'll join us to talk about the nuclear security summit taking place in washington. he'll detail u.s. and global efforts to secure nuclear material so it doesn't end up in the hands of terrorists. then daniel clydeman will discuss a new yahoo! project which takes a look at people supporting donald trump. om lincecum and the cato

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growing city of long beach and the region. in 1940, we had the u.s. navy, the naval station and the long beach naval shipyard. they were here until the early 1990's. unfortunately, through this base closure process, the naval complex shut down. what we were able to do was take an old federal facility and actually turn it into at that time and it still is one o our modern container terminals. where we are today, 104 years later, as we're sitting on the most modern sustainable marine terminal in the world. >> watch the c-span's cities tour saturday at noon eastern on c-span, book tv, and sunday afternoon at 2:00 on american history tv. the c-span's city's tour working with our affiliates and visiting cities across the country.

>>, a new york times columnist part of a discussion on student loan debt. in we talked to fred hiatt about an editorial board meeting with donald trump last week. later, from our landmark cases series, a look at scott versus sanford. the court ruled that americans of african descent whether free or slave were not american citizens and could not sue in federal court. americans hold $1.3 trillion in unpaid student loan debt. about one hundred $21 billion of that is in default. look at student debt. the gerald ford school of public policy at the university of michigan hosted this event.