university. mr. speaker. not afford ord to to fund the chicago state university. we must do everything in our ower to address this ominous situation and provide help to this critical institution that has proven to be so vital to the needs of my constituents, to the needs of the citizens of the state of illinois and to our nation as a whole. e must act and we must act now save chicago state. save chicago state.

save chicago state university. thank you, mr. speaker. and with that, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. does the gentleman have a otion? >> i do now move that the house stands adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly the house stands adjourned until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow.

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boost and that has helped improve the level of service on telephone lines. they have received 130 million returns so far. when it comes to calls on to impeach the internal revenue house commissioner, republicans called for -- impeachment on thursday. they were criticizing him for what they considered to be im prorts. there is blood not only e

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is that president obama is stepping up the efforts. after a string of successes against isis, there are loosening restrictions about what u.s. troops can do there and sending another 200 additional service members as they try to recapture mosul. the president wanted to withdraw from iraq. does the president have the authorization to up the fight in iraq? >guest: legally he does. congress should have a new authorization to use military

force that defines what our national policy is now. we passed resolution into those in one and have not spoken since. when you look at the 2001 resolution, it is, do anything you want, ground or air, or don't do it, as long as the people you are going after has something to do with 9/11. isis says it is independent of al qaeda, but it is a faction. legally, the president is in a strong position because congress has not acted. we need to repeal what we did in 2001 and replace it with a good policy for 2016. host: adam is our first phone call for the congressman. good morning, adam. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to know why we are still even involved in the middle east.

the amount of money that we spend on bombing people whom we get nothing from. the biggest question is, why are we still involved? betweent win a holy war two factions of the same religion. we cannot keep supporting and paying for bombs to be dropped and we keep supporting countries like saudi arabia who dropped the bombs. why? because they keep buying them? i don't see the point. guest: when you look at the mess in the middle east and so many forces that as you point out are not reflective of our values, it would be nice if we could build a wall and be on a differen't planet. the fact is that weakening or the middle east, but the middle east will not ignore us. al qaeda was in a fight for

power in the muslim world, and they discovered on 9/11, if you blow up a building in the united states, that is a way to go after the world's only superpower and acquired notoriety, donations, and volunteers in your fight for power. a non-muslim are state, but the largest and most fightingforce, those for supremacy in islam will think that killing americans, whether it be on youtube, whether it the inspiring folks in san bernardino, or whether it be 9/11, whatever they are given the freedom to do, they will do. we tried to ignore the middle

east, but the middle east could not ignore us. host: luanne, oklahoma city. good morning. caller: yes, sir. wanted -- the man who was talking earlier and talking about all of the wars we have be en in. when are we going to get our act together and do something. if we do not do something about these terrorists now, they will be here in our streets. host: congressman, what should be done? guest: everybody wants an immediate solution, and anyone who promises an immediate solution is leading us down the wrong road. there is no way to send over

200,000 troops and have it be done and all of a sudden, it is won world -- like we war ii. this is a problem. it is a problem that will come after us, and it has to be managed. youquestion is, how do manage it at the lowest -- the lives of our men and women of service. if it is in the news and we are involved, it seems like a day in twice 16 is like a day in 2003, but it is not. one person or two service people being killed over a couple years in a rock is different from losing -- in iraq is different from losing 100 per month. there is no system that will eliminate all-cash at these and

all costs -- all you will tease and -- all casualties and all costs. losing one per month is different than those in 100. the policy that we have now, of trying to manage and move and improve, but not to think that you can control that middle policy between the two callers we just had. one said, when can we turn our back and the other who said, why can't we win? as president obama is in saudi arabia to meet with arab leaders. the congressman is taking your phone calls and questions. more of your phone calls her coming up.

the congressman will be with us for another 25 minutes. i want to talk about this front the financial -- in "the financial times" as well. the first time that saudi arabia in 25 years has started international borrowing. is this an opening for the united states. if so, in what way? guest: $40 per barrel oil weakens quite a number of countries around the world, most of whom are not our best friends. evenarrel an oil would be better. the saudis are not broke, that are not desperate. they are borrowing 10, they have hundreds of billions of dollars in investments and reserves. other countries such as iran are

in a weaker position. effect,n, we , in compelled this savings problem on the. -- problem on them. so now it has been returned to them. they are more liquid than they have been in a while. you see other countries in the gulf, in venezuela and other countries, that are dealing with lower oil revenues. this is audis, long-term situation. they could stop pumping oil t oday and keep spending at the same rates for several years. they know that long-term it is not a good policy. host: this is a long-term game? is it a strategy on many fronts? are in ae saudis strong enough position to think long-term.

you have elements in the middle thinking ory be dreaming long-term, but how do we get to the next month? the saudis are thinking long-term. they realize that this decline in the price of oil hurts them, though it does not deplete them immediately. they would also like to see less oil production in the united states and in other higher cost areas. drop,now if oil prices that is bad for them, and it is bad for their competitors. i am leaving aside all of the environmental reasons. from their standpoint, they see positives in cutting the price of their export. iranrts their enemies like

and their competitors. f hurtsaudi arabia rebuf other oil exporters. they wanted a deal that would freeze production at january levels and begin dealing with the global glut that has sunk prices. let's go to virginia. you were -- leslie, you are on the air. from virginia. caller: i have a couple questions for the congressman. is, why do youon not think we should just bomb the ones we are at war with. you keep saying there are children,eople and but those children are being raised to believe like the adults. years from now, they will be just like the adults. if that is the way that it is, this war will keep going on? our bestll, bombing is

ittic in the sense that minimizes our casualties, and has a tremendous effect. the question is, what should the rules of engagement be? i think it is a terrible and negative thing if we kill a child through our bombing. notwithstanding, that child may the educated right now in a pro-terrorist family. effective said, an humming campaign will inevitably -- bombing campaign will inevitably involve civilian casualties. if we see a tanker truck carrying isis oil, to support isis, to help them behead people, and we know they will export the oil, we do not vomit if it is moving. if the driver takes -- we do not

bomb it if it is moving. if the driver takes a break, and is far enough away, then we bomb it. we do not want to hit the driver, who may or not be civilian. compare that to what we did in france in world war ii. something like 70,000 frenchman died due to our bombing. we were welcomed as liberators because the french new that we did everything possible to minimize civilian casualties, but they were an inevitable outcome. a train failed to bomb in germany or occupied france because it was moving. host: in the washington post, what young arabs want. he writes about the recent poll men,ung arabs, women and

and they find that 52% say that religion plays too big of a role in the middle east. 61%, including saudi arabia sharing that view. he goes on to say that young arabs are freer, but wiser. they are skeptical about easy answers from religion or democratic elections. they know they are in a long transition and they become more pessimistic that they still affirming each survey, our test days are ahead of us. they want the same, secure world that most people do. guest: i think that is accurate, but only as far as it goes. he is describing maybe a 52% majority of arab opinion. even if islam would only be 10% supportive of al qaeda, and well

over 50% in support of things , 100nd i might agree on million people who are terribly right as think he is to the majority, but we would be kidding ourselves if we thought that the only people who support isis are the ones actually fighting for isis. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a little star with the congressman's last two comments. i think our native americans would be frustrated about his comments about killing an innocent. they would have clearly a different view of bombing of innocents. call incidental

damage. secondly, the truck drivers have iraqsmuggling oil out of and other areas in the middle east for at least three generations. these have in family businesses that have gone on and all i can militaryhankfully, our has avoided bombing them whil e moving, and allowing them to move away from the truck. guest: i don't understand the comment about native americans in the sense of bombing. our treatmentut of native americans was obviously horrific. to say that is the same as our treatment of occupied france

during wwii, i don't of the connection. to say it is a family business to help isis, therefore it is that.- i odndon't see i think that we need reasonable rules of engagement to minimize civilian casualties. zero -- you want zero civilian casualties, but if you have a policy that says he will not bomb any isis asset if there is a possibility of a civilian casualty, you will have an ineffective campaign. host: usa today says that policy has been eased up. pentagon oks strikes that are putting more civilians in the line of fire. caller: thank you for taking my call. thank you congressman.

you speak so clearly and you sound so balanced i could not tell if you are republican or democrat. you are grounded the way that you talk about these issues. there are some congressman who want to blame obama for everything. i believe that obama is against that bill in congress, trying to protect the bush families and all the business relationships they have with the saudis. imagine if 9/11 happened during obama's tenure. guess what? like trump said, it happened during bush's tenure. you cannot blame somebody else. james, let's have the congressman tell us your view of this legislation.

he is referring to this 9/11 bill that could be voted on next weekend in the senate. it would allow the families and victims to be able to do foreign government if there is evidence through aticipated terrorist event like 9/11. guest: the devil will be in the details. i want to see how that comes out of the senate. we have had a world of sovereign immunity. i would want to see what the rules were for punitive damages, as opposed to compensatory damages. look, we are incredibly angry, and if you said every victim of 9/11 got to sue individually so that the saudi said 3000 suits, 2500 ofs say they won them, that would still mean that a view juries could offer

unlimited punitive damages, even if the vast majority of the cases, the jury concluded that the saudi government was not responsible for 9/11. details, howk at the procedure will work. one thing a want to get back to, the civilians who currently live -- you couldou kid say we are being good to them that leave them under rules of engagement under isis. the fact is, they are being raped, slaughtered, but headed isisheaded, in the center is a, the better they will be. there was a reason we were welcomed as liberators with the french, even with the casualties due to bombing, and that is because we liberated them from the nazis. the new york times notes

that the saudi government, which warnedight involvement, it might liquidate hundreds of billions of dollars worth of american assets if the bill becomes law. this tweet from john cornyn -- saudi arabia threatening $750 billion in u.s. assets, talk about an empty threat. guest: the one thing, especially when the world is in some financial turmoil, people want u.s. bonds. the idea they would sell 750 billion, if they did, they would sell it at a loss. one return, we would find buyers for those bonds. in their reason for doing it is supposedly not to punish the united states, it is to make it impossible for us to execute judgment from any of these

lawsuits. saudi arabia is too big. we are too big or they will overlap, these two countries, and there is going to be a way to see that. hide.not run and they cannot run and hide. they are too big. we are too big. let's take a call from a democrat. good morning, congressman. i have been looking at relations between america and the middle east, from even before i was born. honestly, i feel, and you can tell me if i am wrong, i feel as though the hand we have had in pursuing and spreading democracy with the a turn majority of the people in the

middle east who are very true to their islamic beliefs and do not want any part or any hand in democracy. can you say that a lot of the things occurring today has a lot to do with the choices and our hand in trying to pursue a push democracy in areas within the middle east, which goes against a lot of their religious beliefs? democracy isk that compatible with islam. we had a vibrant democracy in turkey. unfortunately, president and the gan is president erdo moving the country away from democracy. we see a number of arab and towardstates moving democracy are practicing it.

at the same time, democracy is not as easy as it sounds. it is not just majority rule. counterintuitive, the need for it to work. one is majority rule with minority rights. so if the majority wants to they cannot be, done. the second thing is the idea of adversaries, just because they won an election, that the electoral process is just as important as holding on to power. that is a difficult thing. what we saw as an example in egypt was the muslim brotherhood was in favor of democracy and one person, one vote, one time. they thought they could seize power, and then they would begin dismantling the democracy. we have a long-term interest in moving towards free speech. civil society and democracy.

but that has to be one of our value speared we have to be practical about it. host: gary is a republican in georgia. good morning. caller: congressman, i have a cousin that married a saudi from and she went to saudi to visit four kids byhas this guy that are not allowed to come back into the united states. she has very little contact with the kids. and this guy was here just before 9/11 happened. and he left the weekend right before it happened. how doing with sally's, we deal with them? -- dealing with saudi's, how do we deal with them? maybe she can get her kids back into the united states. is there anything she can possibly do?

aboutt of he, talk getting her kids back in the united states -- contact somebody. problem with aa lot of countries. i have a constituent that has a problem with peru. countries take the side of whichever spouse that happens to be from their country. that spouse pulls the kids into the country, and there is an international convention on how .o resolve these in some cases, peru, and in many cases, saudi arabia ignores international norms. the saudi focus is a lot more parental rights than maternal rights. in that may be their internal system. when they start composing it in an international situation, that is wrong. i don't think that the cousin's husband knew anything about 9/11

to fled because it was going happen. there were an awful lot of saudi americans, saudi arabia is living in the united states, and some of them left after 9/11. but you did not see in accidents before. what this person can do, contact attorneys who specialize in this , contact your member of congress, because that member of congress can push the state department to make this an international issue. congressman, call an attorney. the attorney will cost money. host: a domestic issue, another gas leak reported at what is happening here? guest: all over this country, we have had a feeling that natural gas was only dangerous if you are within a couple hundred feet.

and explode but if it escaped in large quantities, that would be fine. it would just go straight up. it might have a tiny effect on the whole world's global planet. but what we have discovered, instead, is that gas in very large quantities can be an air toxin to do you have the methane they putdorant that in. and the way natural gas is stored in most places, it has oil and other organic compounds with it. we have build, in los angeles and other parts of the country, a too big to fail storing system . almost all the guests for the --le ellie mae glop is this four all of l.a. is stored over the ridge of my home. generateatural gas to

electricity, especially in the coming summer. in the only place to store it is in a place that does not have the right safety. because we do not have safety regulations for gas storage on a national level. the state regulations were terrible. we are going to do something about it in california, but we have to do something about it nationwide. i have talked to the president about it. have tough we natural gas storage regulations nationwide, and people should be pressing for that in their own states. we have proven that we have a lot of natural gas. is not just the global warming impact, but it is an air toxin to those miles away. there were headlines about southern california gas company spending months to shut down a leaking well that prompted thousands of residents to relocate. paul in connecticut, democrat.

caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. my question to the congressman is, why is it that we do not wage the war of ideas more forcefully? you have spoken this morning about bombing, etc. but the war of ideas and waging that is something that we seem to be hesitant to do. for instance, we had the kabulble bombing in cob yesterday with much loss of life, and i imagine the majority of the people that were killed were muslims. and it would seem to me that by publicizing that and perhaps listing the names of all of the people that were killed that we could begin to peel away some of the support that the terrorists

have by shaming them. doing more of that kind of think, turnld, i the tide against them. answer, ibefore the want to show -- at least 28 died as taliban strikes kabul. guest: we do have to do a better job. we do have a substantial public diplomacy effort. televisionradio and broadcasting. but we have tied our own hands in some important ways. you go to the state department, there are experts in the international law of europe in the 1800's. they have not hired anyone who would really be considered an islamic, like an expert in the

theology or jurisprudence of islam. why? people they want to hire from princeton or top graduates from ucla. that is not where you memorize the koran. if we are going to communicate with people, we start with the idea that if you put up a video showing that isis is killing civilians,hildren, that that is going to hurt them -- they put up that video. they think it helps them. so you cannot just assume that everyone starts with one mindset. if we had a picture of alba a leader eating a ham sandwich, that could do as much to discredit him than pictures of

him smiling as children are beheaded. nebraska,in republican. caller: thank you. congressman sherman, i was intening to hillary clinton a congress session just after 9/11, and she was kind of describing this al qaeda that we needed to go after that was responsible. as she was describing them, she .as calling them mujahedin she was saying they were radical that we kindists, of imported and used in afghanistan to help us fight against the russians, and that we kind of left that cell there. we can all see videos of her saying that on the internet if you look up hillary clinton says

we created al qaeda. we know now that al qaeda is more like boko haram or al nusra d isis and so forth. what are you really wondering is, when we first went into afghanistan and iraq back , wend, what, 2002 or so were a good 10 years fighting this al qaeda enemy. did anybody ever bothered to look at the flag that al qaeda afghanistan and and ever happened to notice that it is the exact same flag that flies over the saudi arabian embassy's? believe, and i will certainly re-verify that that is true -- obviously, the isis flag is more familiar to us right now.

thishe fact is that wahhabi extremist view of islam goes back to the 1700's, as does a family withf that strain of islam. we are so self-centered, we think that if we put a dumpling in a giant vat of soup, they made the soup. we made part of it. in fact, we had some involvement with al qaeda in the 1980's. the fact is, we wanted world war ii, one of our allies was stalin. andon the world war, we cooperated with some

mujahedin in afghanistan. now that is a problem. but that does not mean we created stalin or that we created al qaeda. it means that we had a temporary alliance that has some effect. of the united states to think that everything we touched, we created, that is simply not true. host: another quick issue -- well, not a quick issue, but i will try to get an answer. vice president biden, the headline in the washington post discusses frustration with the israeli government. he and secretary kerry attended a pro-peace two-state solution here in d.c., a gala. he said, at the moment, there's they willal will that move forward with negotiations. the trust necessary to take

risks for peace is fractured on both sides. he singled out the study israeli expansion of settlements on land palestinians desire for a state as a step in the wrong direction. guest: look, you cannot equate the two things. but israel will build an apartment building in a place where the u.s. government would prefer you not build the apartment building. enemies will go blow up a bus and kill a lot of people. those are not the same deep -- the same thing. i look forward to a two-state solution in the middle east, and a two-state solution will mean in israel, the bargaining position israel has adopted will not be a reasonable peace solution. they will have to make some

concessions. to the extent that their current right at theot final solution, we can say, well, they are being unreasonable, because there has to be more that is ultimately settled for. we have to understand that israel's enemies are demanding the destruction of all israelis, and not just in mosques. even the palestinian authority says, well, it can be in israel, but every arabic speaking person who claims that, at the time of the ottoman empire, their ancestors or any one of them that lives in israel has the right to return there with their extended families. and could lead to chaos jihad by immigration. israel willthat have to give up some apartment israel's enemies

are going to have to give up on the idea that israel can is sit -- can exist as a