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of the world trade tpwreupblg. screen are on your heading southbound into mexico. they are weighed and then tolled and the money that they get from lore goes to the city of raid dough. the city owning this international bridge, the world bridge, the fourth in the city of lore raid dough and the tolls goes et from into the city to pay for a variety of things. bit about this port, the number one inland port along the u.s.-mexico border. crosses into and allows the goods to go to warehouses that are within five miles of our location. the goods are dropped off and there going to 60 other countries and many cities all over the united states. about 2.8 million trucks cross

and home to 2014 510 foreigner ins and trucking 105 u.s. customs brokers. and it is a busy, busy port in our nation. it now arn more about and get perspective from those folks who are there on the ground and all of you get to ask your questions as well. first, what do you think about trade in general? does it make the u.s. economy stronger or weaker. greg in virginia, good morning you, you're up first. >> i just wondered in the does it mean free trade or -- >> you tell me. do you think the difference is between -- what do you mean trade? >> well the question would make it meant free

trade because just trade in general can have a broad meaning meaning a whole lot of different things. if you mean free trade, i think make the u.s. eke money stronger. products ter quality at a cheaper price and more choices, as long as the free trade has -- is not all one particular nation like japan or china or mexico. idea is that it's policy.ced free trade we get in trouble when it's all we're not allowed same ort our goods in the way that the country imports to us and that's where the u.s. trouble. >> would you say that nafta, the orth american free trade greement qualities as a good trade deal. reporter: i think overall in the

20, 30 years it's positive. i'd like to see a few more regulations moving companies mexico. but other than that on balance it's been good. well the north america free trade agreement passed in 1994 about 22 years old. baltimore, maryland, our location for the washington ournal referred to nafta highway. good morning, walter. go ahead. caller: good morning. and i think that the idea of one fallacies and give me a economic theory which is that the more you dump more more you have the people will want is unreal. you have to increase demand. what trade is about.

borders, on the grounds and countries you have to have a the d system and that's problem with trade in america. we think that our goods are so better that people don't want to buy our goods so much. yes, but other things e electronics and demand for has not been positive because people don't want them. the japanese make a better product. they made e air bags a better product. we've seen the ebbs and flows trade but od to have we have to stop being so narrow we are so hink that great and everybody else is so bad. inglewood, ohio, what do

you think? caller: yes, my name is josé. don't like blacks and i'm religion -- have no >> okay. moving on. does it make the economy or weaker. caller: well, i want to disagree with the premise. good.sly trade is but when we talk about free way really it's sort of a of talking around globalization of the labor pool. as u.s. workers is bad. it hurts us. nd so, yes, it's grade to be trading with all these different countries all over the world. what isn't great when you made trade agreements that open capitals access to labor and hire the o and cheapest labor all over the to theand creates a race bottom so that's bad to the u.s. >> a little more about this area we are today, the world trade bridge, when we were down and border ustoms

protection took us in an helicopter and we were able to traffic that'sof happening on a daily basis. screen ucks on your they're heading northbound and there are different lanes for the trucks. ou can be in a fast lane and that means the border protection a thorough background check you and qualify for a to ain pass that allows you travel quickly through radiation machine. talk to an agent who looks at your manifest and sees where you have been and where been and from there you go on through a second inspection right there on your there's an agent there.ng from there you're on your way to warehouses to drop off the goods. let me tell you about the industry that happens right there. 90% of this truck traffic

of t s consists. you have a driver picking up a it in mexico and taking over to the u.s. side and dropping it off and picking up another load at warehouses right there on your screen and taking makeck to mexico. they may that trip, one truck driver back and that trip forth two times. that means the inspector at the seeing ade bridge are the same truck drivers over and throughout the day. cooper gahead. morning.ood trade makes us better and the world better. or any american that doesn't know that the united states country more than any in the world. >> okay. all right. matt in new york. good morning. it's your turn. thoughts.ur

you r: my thought is that can't compete with cheap foreign prices. me?you hear >> yeah, we can. e can't compete with cheap foreign prices. caller: yeah. labor costs have gone way down we're competing. said it right. you're going to make free trade, make free -- up the labor costs in the foreign countries. money.m more we're just bringing our economy down. we're not raising theirs up. besides that, it's all junk. days hing you buy these only lasts about three years. may tag or kenmore the same l made by company and all junk. i had a washing machine i bought and it lasted ten

years. five since then. there is also southbound traffic and they weigh these and they are on their way to mexico where those goods are off, more parts, automobile parts, all different ypes of commercial goods that re passing over this border, this u.s.-mexican border in lore texas.ough, bridge and 977ne feet long and 265 feet wide and commercial traffic only. it's known as bridge four in dough.aid because there are three others here there are passengers, pedestrians and non commercial fplgts this isll

largest inland port in texas. it is closed for business but it 8:00 a.m. our time and then the trucking its way back be on and forth until 11:00 p.m. idnight every day five days a week. they've got some hours on as rday and hours on sunday well. laredo were down this toke into the flow and volume of trade there. what they told us.

throughout the laredo field in goods 6 billion imported in fiscal year '15. over 3 million commercial conveyances. port of entryredo alone, little over 2 million $115 billion in trade. that translates here where we at today, little over 6,000 trucks a day are coming through this lot. the ent gets here to compound and we risk assess it to be ms what needs examined and the shipment is released and even after the hipment is released our job hasn't ended. we still continue to look at the fact and r post entry review to make sure compliance with

all u.s. government rules and regulations. enforce the laws and 40 other federal agencies. field scal year laredo office $270 million in duty collected. fees are a separate fund goes -- the master of the conveyance, the trucker will goes into the general -- kind of our general set the helps to payoff cost of our exams and otherwise our operations. duties that from goes to the treasury. goes to the treasury, that's correct. >> we are back live from laredo, texas. that was from an interview that we did during our trip in april crossing.order by the way, this crossing that we are at this morning, the trade bridge represents

over 60% of the truck traffic crossing the border between and mexico. here is a map that was put together by the development foundation. the u.s. economy stronger or weaker? it er: i say it makes weaker. when bill clinton signed the nafta agreement, it was supposed mexico economy stronger. they were supposed to have a lot of economic growth this their countries. they haven't had any growth as far as i can see that would be ble to have a sustainable

living environment. so now all that is is that over the sending goods border and got people there on the for pennies dollar. and we over here we are all because nafta has taken way all of the jobs that we used to do and sent them over to mexico. now mexico got all the and they're not taking care of their economy. his is why the people are coming over here to live. dollar they make like a a day or something like that. is that correct? not sure about that number. coming up we'll show an that we did one of the truck drivers that works in the usiness that makes that trip back and forth into the united states several times a day. he talked about how much he makes. 300 to $400 a week.

works from 8 o'clock in the at ing until 11 o'clock night. nd he said he lives comfortably. what's your perspective caller: i think it makes the stronger because one being a truck driver i picked up coming across t laredo border. and it produces jobs for the a variety of ives different produce and stuff and into the oming country. >> can you talk about once you pick that up you pick up the at the warehouses in laredo, from cargo inspected again? out of about getting that area into the rest of the country. area s inspected in that

and shipped to the warehouses in he country of the u.s. driving it like for across the country -- what kind the of training do you have to have? basically just being an n the road truck driver the training you have is just like -- just being a truck driver, just having that your belt.under it's not really training that have to have to carry these roducts from your origin to destination other than the skills of professional truck driving. a you don't have to of certain certification or certain driver's license? >> commercial driver's license cdl. >> good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. i've been a truck driver for 30

years and i got 4 million miles just is like the top, about the most, and i have no pension. retirement. i have no healthcare. industry n the whole change from ronald reagan until don't speak they english everywhere you go, all the country. it's from the unions being it.ed most of and that's really the biggest problem that we got. good when it started, but people have taken advantage of it and they're both guilty of getting chief labor. eople who don't even speak english. the truck drivers you have now you can't speak english to them. industry out of all of them. unions o get these

republicans out and then weed ut the democrats so hillary is the best. >> we spoke with bob cash who is of the texas ctor fair trade coalition. he's joining us in the last hour this morning. he told us when we talked to him in downtown laredo initial impact that nafta had on this country southern texas. the first thing that i read ppen at that point, about in the newspapers was mass layoff of particularly levi in textile factories, the industry of in the valley and south texas and then plants in north texas shut you go down and mexico. as the years went on, a number of plants

shutting because of cheaper imports coming in. ot because the jobs went overse overseas because of china's allowing them in the world trade organization. live in laredo, texas, talking about the trade and the trade and the flow of that happens at the world trade international bridge there at u.s.-mexico border in laredo, texas, and the goods many cities ing to throughout the united states and 60 different countries. once it gets going here this later on you'll see the trucks lining up to cross to go through.

there are inspections to talk to u.s. custom and border agents they'll be on their way. you'll see southbound traffic as ell happening here at this location this morning. we're asking all of you to kick this program this morning does trade make u.s. economy stronger or weaker. steve in robertsville, missouri, what do you think? can be good, it but the problem is, the stuff junk.y is you go to walmart or whatever and you buy something and it a month or ou for two. getting a little bit better. here are some things that are good about it but i think overall it's busting our unions don't make no money and i think that's the biggest problem in our country hillary in to have there first. the only choice we got and ain't gonna cut it.

to us. he's lying that's all i got. >> james what do you think, james? caller: hello? good morning. i think r having me on restricting free trade keeps u.s. is necessary. the economy.lps that yond the system increases unemployment. our country is in huge trouble. we don't win anymore. need to restrict them. i problem is mr. trump and think you should just be in problem.nd solve this

> there is some news on trade, "the new york times" business section. trade tax supporters say it's or never for the transpacific partnership. politics that have pawned obituaries for obama's signature trade agreement could help win ratification in congress in a lame duck vote. the certainty that the successor abandon the agreement gives 2017 and that dynam dynamic. it's keeping hopes alive from business and pro trade and agriculture groups. of the "new e page

york times" about this that thousands he oh the so-called would impose new trade rules ncluding for labor, rights and standards.tal that mexico's president recently sent congress that his would address america's complaints on t unions we're talking trade this morning from our location live in texas, the number one inland port here in the country. compares to aredo trade at other areas in the country. from the laredo

foundation. laredo is number three. number one port being los angeles and the number two new york city. aredo is the number one inland port. 0% of commercial trucking that crosses betweeni texas and mexio happens right here where we are this morning. david in colorado springs, good morning to you. what do you think about trade? does it have on our economy? caller: well, just talking about laredo and apparently the folks ave for gotten about the oakland outport also los angeles and the ork outport traffic ort which runs from japan through the panama yards. the whole nine with me the bottom line is,

something you said about a driver running back and forth across the border from until 11 o'clock at night. .s. guys, usually the military folks are limited to 12 hours. you have a guy with crosses in back and forth. i don't know how much they're mexican m if he's a driver, but that seems to be a out of our sight. >> he says he gets about 300 to week for that job. and he's traling back forth across this border at the world international bridge. we'll keep taking your phone here and continue our live program this morning from focusing on trade hours.out today's we are marking our 30th

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we're marking the anniversary tonight we'll have a special program featuring video from the enate floor going back to the first televised sessions. tune in at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span and c-span.org. tulsa, oklahoma, we're aking your calls as we're coming to you live about trade , texas.o caller: it makes the economy stronger because of the before andd allow it it's beed the things that the americans and from that country things that they want from our country. i really do believe that it to allow blessing forward trade has

andys been around for years years and years. sometimes they had to be allow it to d not come in because of so many other issu issues that stopped it. that we o glad this have a president that has opened get some oft we can the things that we need and like that they things there.d take it from we do need trade. than ever ronger before. texas.id in caller: it's at the bottom tip texas, not too far from laredo. >> go ahead with your thoughts. you live close to the border. what impact has the volume of

and increase in trade have community?ur >> the way it's going the quality of products is really low. i see here does it make the u.s. now ger or weaker, right it's pretty down. ut it can actually make it stronger. how do you do that? you have to make sure that you products in ood order to export out. what happens is the clients see that. n order to -- they're going to see what we have done for them ask then we're going to say, we match what america did for us. so they're going to begin to up heir quality control so we can maintain business partners. what else does that do? opens up jobs now. >> okay. michelle in tennessee.

what are your thoughts, michelle? yes. aller: this free trade is wonderful. differentught new and products. but what really concerns me. rural area and our mexico andr area. devastated our because we were a clothing made area. people lost jobs. town next to us was factory and the it's dead now. we are considered a desert area

the state of tennessee. understaand i just really thint that people have left thinking about it because of tax breaks. and this is where i say, trade wonderful, but we got to take citizens first. think we but i just should put the americans to work first. >> they manied us when the coming over from mexico and if they believe if it's first time driver or omething going on with the truck, they put them right there

machine.x-ray that building right there in the lue structure around it is an x-ray machine and that machine single inside every part of that truck, the tire wheels and the top of the bed it's the officers there on the ground looking at the x-rays sees any anomaly then that truck goes to the dock and every one of the goods on the back of it gets taken off. they do that because of the smuggling of narcotics and they're also making sure that a weapon of mass get into n does not the united states. the officer that we talked to told us that the efforts will go mask the try to cartels so that the officers mixed in part of the goods in the part of the commercial trucks.

commodities to try to mask the bundles. wii actually had some rganizations go through the extend of actually shaping the bundles of the con extra band to almost mimic the commodity that they're trying to smuggle it example of l use an a bag of car coal. of ee all different types charcoal and a lot of brick kets. seen organizations try o mask or co-mingle their bundle into the actual commodity itself. if you were to open that bag it looking at ou're charcoal. but when you look at it closer you're actually seeing the marijuana coming over. onsation back in april with u.s. border rotection about their efforts it try to stop drugs, people,

mass lly and weapons of destruction from coming into country. international bridges and we were at bridge one where pedestrians separate laredo from the other side. guest, when we went opened up our conversation with telling usted out by about three men that had jumped the turn style. were three men that jumped it at that port right there and had run into the

laredo. this the headline that they had. didn't alert border patrol when hey men broke through and escaped. afollow-up to that, they sent statement to texas and sent it had-span and this what they to say. at approximately 6:30 p.m. a unit consisting a 40-year-old mother and 12-year-old son and daughter all citizens of peru the inspection. and apprehended all three and brought them back to the port for processing. remains ongoing. back to your calls here about trade. economy ake the u.s. stronger or weaker. ron, good morning to you in

california. ahead. caller: greta, couple of statements pu first i got to doing a you're fantastic job, get tafplt you are really, really good. of you. proud over the years you just become a c-span.s for secondly, the idea of trade initially was to lower prices united states. if we look at michigan right now, we see devastation because these jobs that were mexico too be sent to pick-up oney on s-ten '90s s in the '90s, in the an s10 pick up cost 17,000 phi hundred and they sent them down mexico and could have brought them back for 12,000 and instead and passed on 00 the cost of building a new brand new big manufacturing plants in exico. so, the bottom line is

there's lot of unfair things going on in trade. when they say fair trade there should be. jobs andthey take away wipe out a whole state like trade but not fair just stupid. theysame thing with textile industry. south carolina and all those areas, we have to -- when we look at these trade have to make y sense. pollution thing is the last thing i have to mention because most important part. original concept pack in the we could 90s was that send our pollution offshore and hen we don't have to worry about our pollution of your country. that's fine but then we double the size of the country so we people here. so we're polluting just as strong as we we then and so as a result have to really look at trade on concept and see what we're doing.

trade oesn't let us anything. they won't take our cars. it's interesting because they hand drivers and refuse to have american cars and into our country. you mentioned pollution. environmental factories that moved over to the mexican side nd initially what they saw was 25 million gallons of raw sewage being dumped into the rio grande put paid forn they a processing plant to be put on today ican side and you're seeing 6 million gallons being dumped into the rio grande. by the way, the rio grande is what separates the u.s. and we are at thisre morning at the world trade bridge. from about 20 minutes

where we were yesterday north of were. we you can see where it's located. talking about a 2.5 hour san antonio and it's ranch land in between all of areas. joe in alaska. caller: i'm referring back to commentary about a driver earlier before you went to the about he was re working going to work at 8 o'clock in the morning and etting off work at 11 o'clock t night and making 3 to $400 a week. the d.o.t. you have to carry a log book and register your hours. some hours are crooked ones will carry two log books to get this. in t of people getting

wrecks jackknifing their trucks and killing people and i wonder emphasis is put on safety with these mexican drivers coming over here. i want to jump to clarify. part of the s are picking up a truck bed full of bringing it over to the u.s. side and dropping it off at warehouses and picking up a new load and bringing it over to the mexico side and making twice ap back and forth day. they go to warehouses that's when another driver, u.s. picking up the load and bringing it to the rest of country. >> so they're not actually the ng it through

united states then? >> right. caller: all right, thank you. good morning. caller: i think it's not working. i think some of the clothes we now are subgrade. across the was street from walmart and i was looking at two pairs of jeans $50.01 was $64 and i never thought i would see this. made in mexico. >> we spoke to border protection about counterfeit goods and that come across the border as well and they have eople who are trained to know hat a label is not -- is counterfeit. this is a t-shirt and the officers there could tell that not -- it was incorrect and there might be a spelling error or the colors might be

wrong. trained to know this. to take the goods off the truck and call the company and see if it's legitimate not.emark or that's some of the work they're lso doing at the word trade international bridge in laredo. james, good morning to you. caller: good morning, greta. morning?you this >> i'm doing well, sir. i think trade is great for our country. of conomics the the country. the biggest problem a lot of missing these trade agreements need to be scrutinized. congress needs to take a look at these trade agreements and make what hey are following diverge epbtr most

practice. kim: the number one inland port long the u.s.-mexico border here co my comment and hopefully we can ask those questions. greta: that will be part of the as we go back to texas. cuellar joins us. i'll get to that viewer's i want to begin with you to tell us about how he nafta trade agreement i think wing

this at the beginning of the year of the nafta, trade has been very, the job y important to creation here in laredo, texas. total price, at you have l.a., new york city and laredo as the powerhouse of what we talked about trade. the largest inland port we're number three. if you want to see job creation see it in the international trade community whether it's warehousing, trucking, logistics and secondary jobs. created here.

most of the jobs in trade. laredo laredo is a unique city. the most hispanic city in the whole united states. about 96% hispanic so the community here has had a relationship between the u.s. war and o. after the they put the rio grande as the decided to e people go from laredo and they created laredo. but there are a lot of finally therefore the o

trade so they're job related. doing in t are improve n to expand, upon what is happening right there where you're sitting from morning? people live from the border the less understanding they have about border. the border is safer than washington, d.c. be 3 to 4 rate might urders per 100,000 and in washington, d.c. it's 15.9 100,000.er they have this perception, people who run for national who run for people state office always paint the border as the flash point and as the hat they use punching bag. but if you look at the border, creates a lot of

obs for -- not only for us but across the nation. 6 million jobs we have of the trade use if you look mexico. they have i think the 10th largest economy of the world. in 12th place is italy. between those two at number 11 it is the republic of mexico. a strong growing mexican side and unfortunately a lot of people ho live far away from the border they look at mexico and all we have are rug dealers and rapists and

stuff like that, but if you look 1920s ago you say in the everybody was a criminal and mob. chicago. he an fair to they have manufacturing and they are developing a lot of good things and they have very good united states. have to understand that mexico is an threat but they're of the friend united states. florida, good morning. caller: how are you? host: doing well, sir. caller: your callers are trying o understand basically what's happening and the word free trade is actual acatch phrase redistribution of wealth. america we're living on a rocessed island in a sea of world poverty and that's our go down of living will and the standard of living of

countries is going that's it. respond, ahead and congressman. >> again, there are different perspectives. has been part of every great civilization that we have had. look at the greeks and he romans and other civilizations of history of mankind. trade has always been part of economy and same thing with the united states. e can either take the 1930s attitude where we say we'll close our borders and not going any part of g with the world or we can say, hey, consumers or our u.s. manufacturing for our companies are outside the united states to engage that. f we don't get engaged in international trade do you think

the world will stop just because of the united states. not.'s russia will fill in the void and china will fill in the void. want to see the united states as a leader but especially when it comes to trade. are a powerhouse and we need startacking like a powerhouse. caller: my thoughts on trade are have a trade neutral. we can't buy more than we sell been at's what we have doing and we're running a big eficit and a deficit for a country is not g our national deficit is out of control. to buy made if the u.s. to restore jobs. you.k >> i agree with the gentleman. there is a company in montana, a that does mpany business here in laredo, texas. i know because i used to

company, so again it's one of those things that rade touches every part of the country and again i agree with the gentleman. to see trade. part of the reason we have the deficit is because we're oil.rting so much and this is why another sector energy is unity is oil and gas and we export more of that then we'll be able to down. that deficit i agree with the gentlemen. products see u.s. made by companies go out there and produce. et me say something about the border. this is something. you were talking about people coming in and people worried about people coming in. we know what the study has said. ess people come into the united states and the lowest we've seen in many, many years. you know what's been great in the oming in billions, there are billions of mexican dollars that are being invested in the

.s. the largest bread company in the they bought now companies that include sara lee, thomas english muffins. look at lala. heard of born milk. if you look at automobile parts, there are mexican companies here that produce so many parts for cars here. the second largest maker in the united states, you know who owns them? mexican investment owns them ere. in many ways you have people working here and second here in the cer nited states is building the foundations of the united states city and counties and there's by investment.

500 illegal firearms to the cartel helped out with free trade. >> i couldn't understand everything but i think you were alking about fast and furious about the illegal guns. that's a different thing from trade. talking about guns and other issues and law enforcement and talking about immigration, ways everything is interconnected one way or another. but we're talking about the trade.mate the fast and furious or guns being sold over there we know as the second ave amendment rights here, guns are going to be produced here and be sold here. but there are certain rules we got

o deal with and work with because a lot of the drug dealers are using guns that to the oduced united states to go kill people mexico, and mr.igoing into the fast if & furious that's a totally different topic. i want to talk about legitimate trailers pass 00 through laredo every day. on a one e them up year basis, all the trucks in around the world twice. that tells you the powerhouse of that we imate trade have with our friends in mexico. of your u know many colleagues don't agreed with you. watch has zens trade put together in 2014 a 20 year report on nafta. how is what they write --

criticismpond to that of nafta that you probably hear from your colleagues on capitol well?as >> certainly, folks will come up and different perspectives might be leaning one particular way. but the liberal group they'll another perspective and it's the labor union and ill come up with a different perspective. but then if you go with the business the people that are come ro business they'll up with a different perspective. want to see is a fair and balanced trade. i can talk about what is happening here in this area and people can talk about michigan and illinois. at thesent this area and same time i represent the united states. when we do trade agreements we we have free ure trade and fair trade but at the same time there's adjustments have to be done to certain people we understood to provide

he funding to help those retrain. we can dig ourselves a hole and act like there is nothing be the g or we can powerhouse that we are as the united states. do what we do best and do american products and export. exporting umber one state we have in the country. cattle e exports from from agriculture products and computers. here in texas gs nd we understand the power of trade, fair trade but at the fear going cannot outside the border. e are americans and we need no understand we can compete with anybody in the whole world. minnesota.eapolis, michael you're on wear with the congressman. your : hi, thank you for

time. i think what a lot of people are they goo understand, as into the local walmarts and purchase the goods and services prices go up the exponentially. benefit to the citizen when you look at the borders rotecting our that they claim -- when you look this they're saying they are spending a ton of money to border and then looking at the cost because the wage dz have gone down in the exponentially. those are the comments. want to.f you congressman: thank you again for your comment. i understand. i certainly don't want to see i don't want and to see the prices of consumers o up and again, many of times they're tied in into cost of and fools and different reasons why prices go up. of you talk about the cost border security, you know we

$18 billion for security because we're playing defense on the one yard line. you know this, but two years ago we -- kate and myself and appropriations we added $80 million to help secure the southern border. southern border of mexico, so they can secure their border guatemala. what we were hoping they would stop people from coming in from the southern border. didn't you know over a period of ime, that same period of time they actually stopped more people coming into mexico than border patrol. either we play defense and spend on the one llars yard line or we extend or and play defense on the 20 yard line of the we got partners and we have coming in. go into ant to migration or immigration.

less mexicans coming then the late 1970's. i've been to central america and people coming he in, they're looking at the southern borders. look at what's happening with cubans. the largest number of cubans come intoing united states are laredo, texas. who would have thought cubans and come be coming in using laredo use it as their number one port. 65% of the cubans coming into the united states that's where they're coming in. have to be floored in how to secure the border. immigrationlk about reform. if we have a guest worker planned people come in and they go pack and fork -- work and we know who they are. officials it focus on

criminals who come into the united states and we can still at securing the borders. greta: greg in warren, michigan. good morning. morning.ood pleasure talking. thank you, representative for allowing me to be on. i would like to mention that it could negotiate stronger straight agreements like the chinese do to the states. we do not have unfettered free any other china or country. every country we trade with sets our own rules. the number one market in one orld and the number economy. slippingr middle class and china's increasing. greta: congressman?

he was breaking up little bit, but i think i gathered what he said. thank you, i appreciate that. world economy the u.s. is the number one power. we got to act like the number one power because we are. if we decide to shrink away the world and take the p it what's going to happen russia and china will fill in the void. you have the chinese looking at -- of course we've of oil go down ut they are looking at insrefplts. they're looking for opportunities. they're finding the natural soources to get involved in, we either were part of this riting the rules for the world

economy or we'll let phb else while we shreubg back. so again, if you go to look at got to like china we make sure they're jumping things into the united states and make it's against is the law and we enforce our law chinese.he we got to talk about addressing have issues much again, we to be strong and engage the orld because, again, the world is not going to wait for us and we got to make sure that we act s the leader as we should be the leader in the world. greta: congressman, you mentioned this earlier, you used client who does trade right there on the u.s.-mexico border. were a customs broker from 1983 to 2000. customs broker is and what's their job. congressman: i'm an attorney by broker.on and i'm a broker is someone who is

involved in the movement of goods. they're the ones that deal with customs. pay fill out the paperwork, the duty for goods come into the i used to be in the middle of the trade down here. i know it. i know trade. i understand it also. i'm trying to speak from the ody who understands trade and not just talk about things i'm not familiar w i'm personal use my knowledge that ied had and my experience as a small business talk about trade and have seen jobs created here in laredo sector. greta: steve. greta and d morning, congressman and thank you for taking my call. okay?u hear me >> we can. you're on the air, steve. thank you. i'm in the late fifties and i lost my job because half the assembled -- all in texas and d

they busted our union and other in mexico. ng made congressman made a comment and the previous caller. what country in history gave away their jobs in the name of trade? what we are doing. congressman: well, again, nobody wants to give their jobs away. i certainly don't want to see the jobs given away. if you look at what the romans did and the greek and great britain when they were involved in tobacco they her activities, when came over to the u.s., it's the were created and the merchants and. t was a merchant society and trading society. again if we're not aggressive in see ting because i want to u.s. made goods here in the u.s.

an example as as because are the number one exporting, look at the agriculture. of the agricultural products in the united states are exported. export maybe 15-20%. nobody wants to export jobs. politician will say they want to export jobs. what we want to do is create export the jobs over there but at the same time world has that this become so complicated. as i mentioned some of the companies that we have here in the united states are owned by mexicans. by mexicans. the cement that you probably that's ownedive on by a mexican company. the milk you drink own by a mexican company. thomas ish -- the english muffins or sara lee, the

argest tortillas or wraps coming in, they're mexican companies. to understand that we ave foreign investments but here we're joining with american companies. we got to rld but understand the rules. it's a the world that we got to be competitive and it's a world to understand that the united states is the leader leaders ed to act like economy.world greta: pat in bonita, california. here is that located caller: eight miles from tijuana. mexican is still voting with their feet and still coming up here to san diego flooding our schools. t's majority mexican population. by that i mean mexican nationals. heir children are here. they may be american citizens and they've chosen to do that by

taken advantage of come on over a half a day and have your baby and then make them a citizen. upset about though you see they're flooding our section ight housing and these are facts. i don't care what any politician says. are you aware right now in it is backed up with hundreds of haitians and people to get asylum ng coming into the united states. i don't know if that's the work of the cartel. really don'ting and know. we have a serious problem. for politicians to deny it have ve to recognize we this problem. greta: congressman? congressman: he was breaking up little bit but i understand a little bit of history. this lady lives at, i know for a fact, texas, ia, colorado, this was owned by mexican and mexico before the u.s.

got in a war in mexico and took 55% of all the territory so i understand all that. i understand history. at the same time we're part of states.ted we want to see our borders secured. we do same time understand that some people come over here for economic reasons. come erstand some people over here for jobs and some we understand some people come over here for jobs, some people come to hurt us, sell drugs. i understand that, so we have to be able to secure our border and hopefully have fair immigration reform that addresses the guestworker plan, what we need over here. a migrant worker. need to have a guestworker plan for somebody willing to do the hard work in the sun. i would rather have americans

first, but if not, we have to have a guestworker plan to fulfill the jobs some people do not want to do, but at the same time help the economy. there are less people coming from mexico. in fact, there are probably more mexicans going back than what we have coming in. people are coming in from different parts of the world. look at what border patrol calls other than mexicans. that number is increasing. we have to have extensive border security. a wall is not going to work. that is a 14th century solution to a 21st century problem. look at the wall in china, the berlin wall, world war i. inhave to use technology extending our perimeter to work with the countries out there. i want to secure the border but in a smart way so that we can have the best security and save the taxpayers dollars, instead

of building -- spending $18 billion on border security. host: in april in laredo, u.s. border and customs told us that area have seen -- has seen a big uptick in cubans trying to come into the united states. they told us that in the first six months of this year, they have seen about 14,000 cubans coming into the laredo area. as long as they can prove they are a cuban national, they start the process of becoming a u.s. citizen. talk about the cuban adjustment act, and do you think it is fair to treat cubans reverently than oricans claiming fear syrians claiming fear? that is also happening at the border right there. look, you are right, two-thirds of all the cubans coming into the united states are coming in through laredo. i was in puerto rico, and there

were cubans there and shelters. kay granger and i flew down there, and i asked the cubans were they were going -- laredo, texas. they said it is a safe place to come through. how do you pick laredo, being in cuba and not understanding the geography? because there is a pipeline that brings these people coming in. we have the cuban adjustment act of 1966 tiered we have the 1980 refugee act they got amended. that basically means that if you come here to the u.s. as a cuban, you get into the u.s., you get to stay. the moment they cross over, they do not have to fear deportation or detention centers. filling out the refugee assistance. they can get $1500, $1800 for that. they can apply for food steps in

housing. no other group gets that immediate help. so no matter who it is, they come in, and as a blanket, they get that support. i understand why we did that for castro, but castro has lived 9, law wasdents since that enacted. we need to change that law. we need to make sure that if they want to come in and have credible fear, it is and is silent, and it is done on a case-by-case basis. like anyone else, they have to go through an immigration judge and be approved. the judge says they stay or go back. what they are getting right now of becauseesty some no other group gets like that. i want to change the law, along with some of my colleagues. but we know this is a presidential year. it will not happen. i want to go back again and try to save the taxpayer money. came up with some

numbers to did you know that in the next 10 years, if we change the law about cuba, we will save the united states' taxpayers billion, because we're giving away this amnesty and assistance to every cuban that comes in, instead of going and case-by-case basis helping the ones that truly need the assistance to it we need to change the cuban assistance act, with all due respect to my cuban friends. it is amnesty and special preferential treatment. the taxpayers need to know we're spending almost $2.5 billion a year on this blanket amnesty that we are giving to the cubans. host: c-span was able to speak with a cuban who made the trip went we were down there in april, had been traveling for four days straight. was at the port of entry in laredo, and c-span was able to

talk to him about his journey and why he came. you can watch it on our website, c-span.org. joyce and kansas, missouri -- kansas, missouri. you are live on the air with the congressman. hello, we have no border security. everybody talks about we need to strengthen our borders and border security, and you have done nothing. we have exported all of our manufacturing jobs to other countries and into mexico. it used to be that when our people got out of high school, they did not go to college, but they could go work in manufacturing plants. we used to make things here. now everything has been moved out of the country. we have lost jobs. we let in every stray human on the planet into this country. right here in my small town, we had illegals who were having children at our expense of them

and they would immediately go on welfare. and we support them so they can come here and take our jobs in roofing, construction, everything. wall, howevere a high it has to be. obviously, laredo is not stopping any of the foreigners who are coming through mexico, and i am sure that the people who are smuggling them are making fortunes. representeak like you mexico, with the mexican people buying up companies here. of course, china is buying up our farmlands and companies here. we have to protect our citizens -- host: ok, let's give the congressman a chance to respond to you. , she has a particular perspective about

immigration. look, again, i understand what she is saying. i disagree with her. i do agree that we need to make sure we secure our borders. everybody is talking about that. by attacking the laredo border patrol, i think we have 3000 to 4000 combined officers, to say they are not doing the -- doing anything in laredo, with all due respect to the lady, it is an insult to the men and women here every night and day protecting our borders. you are attacking the men and women doing so much to secure our border. number two, migration. again, i want to have legal migration. there has been illegal migration in texas. let me give you a story i remember reading some time ago. there was a border patrol officer of the complaint to the central government, saying, hey,

we got illegals coming in through the river carmen they up ouring in, taking land, not respecting the law, so we need to get this people out? inat was written about 1830 spanish by a mexican general, and at that time, it was owned by mexico, and he was complaining about americans crossing the red river, which is in the northern part of texas, americans coming over and taking over the land. again, history, history. you have got to understand history. migration.d about right now, this is the united states and we want to patrol the border. i do not think it is helpful to attack our men and women from border patrol, from cpb, that are here working to protect you, and just to make a blanket statement and say they are not doing anything is, with all due respect to her and anybody else, i will stand with and support the border patrol, the men and

women that work here at the border, because they are doing a heckuva job. they need help. we cannot slap them around and say they are not doing a good job at all. host: michael in new york, good morning. caller: yes, yes or no to this question -- have you taken at --st one dollar from a u.s. [indiscernible] of a mexican cabinet? guest: the phone is breaking up. host: he asked if you have taken one dollar from a u.s. subsidiary to a mexican company, as in, campaign donations? guest: me as a congressman? host: yes? york, the again, new further you live away from the border, the less you understand the border. this is the united states, and we are all governed by the rules

of the united states. foreign contributions are not allowed to anybody. it is like saying, does a canadian give money to a congressman in new york? questions, if i understand, are a little insulting. it is an insult to anybody. just because we understand the border does not mean that we thisyou know, doing with person is insinuating. and again, the further you live away from the border, the less understanding people have of the border. this is the united states. i love the united states. and we're going to do everything to protect the united states. at the same time, we understand our relationship with our friends, not enemy, our friends, it's a can some of the 11th largest -- mexico, the 11th largest country in the world. look at canada, the united states, and mexico. we are in a sea of tranquility

in many ways. look at the middle east, eastern europe, ukraine, russia, eurasia, armenia. look at different areas. in our part of the country, we have mexico and canada, and we are in a sea of prosperity and we will continue improving our lives. again, comments like this not very constructive. host: congressman, a tweet about going back to nasa. what specific jobs did nafta create? again, there are 6 million american jobs being created. there is a map that i would be happy to share that talks about all the jobs that are in almost every state. there are jobs that, if you look at almost every state in the country that has trade with

mexico, jobs are being created. it is not only texas or the border states. it is a most every single state created. there are 6 million american jobs that have been created because of trade we have with mexico. that is not even include the billions of dollars that the mexican confidants have invested here in the united states. cms, second largest producer of cement here. on wasent they walk produced by a mexican company. thomase, english muffins, borden milk, so many other companies. companies are here in the united states and are part of our economy. more importantly, let me explain our relationship with this.

if something comes from europe, it will havena, american parts. if something comes in from canada, our largest trading partner, it will have about 24% american parts. but if something comes in from mexico, it will have 40% american parts, which means that our economies are so interrelated, and american parts are being sent over there. so whether people like it or not, mexico is so tied into our and that is what we have got to understand. host: congressman, business section of the new york times this morning reporting on the transpacific partnership -- the headline is that the trade pact supporters say it is now or never, that some are strategizing to get this approved during a lame-duck session. where do you come down on

transpacific partnership, and do you think it could get done in 2017 before the next president is sworn into office? guest: i support trade agreements. i support the tpp. in fact, i went to paul ryan when he was chairman of ways and means, and i asked if he needed a democrat to support, and i think is probably the only democrat that signed on to the bill on the trade promotion authority. i support tpp for different reasons. one, we are the leader, and we should act like a leader in the world economy, and we should not shrink away from the power that we have. us-made goods. 18,000two, we will have tax cuts, tariffs, which means that 18,000 tariffs will be cut across the world, at least on those 11 other countries dealing with the u.s. and the tpp that

will be reduced, which means that we can send our agriculture products, cars, and other things to compete. 18,000 tax cuts we will have so we can send american-made products outside of the u.s., where 95% of the consumers are at or the third thing, which is extremely important, is this -- if we are not engaged in the rules, in the rules of trade, fair trade, then you're going to let china, you are going to let russia write those rules. either you let china write the rules for us here, or we, as the leader, get involved and write the rules and be part of the negotiating table. again, i support trade. i want to make sure we have fair to rate, balanced trade. i understand all of that.

that we, as a leader, cannot shrink from our responsibility to it we have to act like a leader or do we are the best country in the world. darn it, let's act like the best country in the world. host: congressman henry cuellar, thank you for your time, and thank you for your help getting c-span2 your district in laredo, texas, so we can show our viewers what it is like there for the trade community that lives shane -- machine to look at more of the commerce. laredo, texas, on the u.s.-mexico border. we continue our conversation from there this morning. bob cash is joining us from the world trade bridge, state director for the texas fair trade coalition. bob cash, we heard from the congressman that the north american free trade agreement has been good for the community texas, forfor south texas, and the country. what do you think of that? guest: you know, any trade agreement is going to have

winners and losers. our contention is that for the united states, texas, and for south texas, there have been more losers than winners, particularly among working-class folks. , you come here to laredo, and as the congressman said, you have a lot of jobs based on nafta trade. transportation, brokerage, warehousing, service jobs have, and those been created by trade with mexico. the argument could be made that texas is going to be trading with mexico regardless of whether or not there is a free trade agreement. there have been studies that tradehat, in fact, our balance with countries that we do not have free trade agreements with are better than

those countries that we do have trade agreements with. so when you look at the promises of nafta, it was going to create good jobs on both sides of the , and thatexcuse me you would have more of a trade balance between the two , and before nafta, we headed $2.6 billion trade surplus in goods. we do not have the data on services. now we have a 57 billion dollar trade deficit with mexico. that does not seem to be a successful agreement overall, particularly when you look at the job losses in the united states. in theho lost jobs united states? and were jobs lost in texas? guest: i am sorry? jobs in thest

united states? in the united states, there -- it is estimated at least one million jobs directly due to -- jobs lost in the united states. a large percentage of those are manufacturing jobs are the verifiable data we have comes from the trade adjustment assistance numbers, an act which gave workers who lost their jobs due to either off shoring other jobs are the jobs disappeared because of cheaper imports, the net loss, talking about net .oss, is about one million jobs in texas, about 55,000 jobs. at first, it was primarily manufacturing jobs.

more and more, it is covering all types of job categories, including the high-tech. , on the 20thsting anniversary of the passage of nafta, i was at a demonstration in dallas in front of the chamber of commerce, and we were joined by a group of workers who had been represented on the teamsters whose jobs had been lost and were moving to mexico. , theu look at right now carrier factory in indiana, which has played a big role in the presidential primary, 1400 jobs moving to mexico. announced that they are moving jobs to mexico. is still taking jobs. ,ne thing i would like to say

it is taking good paying jobs in the u.s., shipping them to mexico, and in large part turning them into sweatshop jobs where mexican workers cannot make a living wage to feed their families. host: let's get to calls for bob cash. lauren in alexandria, minnesota. caller: good morning. the congressman before was on. i do not know where he is coming patrol is notrder good. why are these drugs coming in and these illegal immigrants getting here? donald trump is right, we need one great wall with one entrance, so we know what is coming in and what is going out. thank you. host: bob cash, who do you represent? texas fair trade coalition -- what is your group, and does your group believe there should be no trade? texas fair trade

coalition is affiliated with the citizens trade campaign, which is an organization composed of unions, religious organizations, family groups, human rights organizations. and texas, we work with many of the same type of organizations. we definitely believe in trade. we think that trade done right can you good thing for people on both sides of the border in texas and for people around the world. we believe that the trade agreements, the way they have been written, actually create a perfect storm where promotes the interests of the economic elites of those countries involved and actually lowers the wages, lowers the living standards of most of the other citizens of those countries. host: how do you do a trade agreement right, bob cash? guest: well, to do a trade

agreement right, i would have to say you would have to refer to a legislation that senator sherrod brown of ohio filed several years ago, the trade act, one of which being you would have to and real labor environmental standards that protected the environment, protected labor standards, and raised labor standards in those countries with which we are doing trade. just recently in el paso, you had workers at a factory in juarez going on strike, finding out they are sense ofss now nafta passed. a trade act done right would balancedo-way trade, a trade, to where people in mexico would be making enough money

u.s.-madecould buy goods, rather than having starvation wages or, as nafta to 2 million mexican farmers, driving them off their land. that is not a policy that is going to help the majority of people. it is a policy that has made millionaires and billionaires and both u.s. and mexico. florida,ksonville, good morning. caller: good morning. i have learned on both sides of the border. initially, the united states giving money to work my way through engineering school. when i graduated, the jobs were not there. i had to move overseas and work in other countries. i want to point to the individual numbers bob is pointing out. we have 95 million people who do

not have jobs. some are investors and some have other incomes. that we need to move jobs back to the united states. here are the things missing from tradesome have other incomes. need to move jobs back to united states. here are the things missing from trade agreements. wages one, the total should be the same moving back and forth across the border. jobsotal number of border should be balanced at the total number of money moving across the border should be balanced. relatives ini have mexico who are professionals. and they can't get into the united states. but if they were to go across the rio grande, they could get in. we need a concrete wall, like the israelis. host: what are your thoughts? as a represents of

many organizations, i do have to say that i don't think any of the organizations and their coalition support the wall. we think that is exactly the wrong way to go about it. we are in favor of trade agreements. and workers of the united states -- after american jobs, we believe that if you look at nafta, one of the reasons that so many people were for it, was because nafta destroyed the family farm system. recently, i was talking about the workers who went on strike. hasourkeand big been invited to the picket line and went there and spoke afterwards and said he had never realized what horrific

conditions the workers in warez lived under and what struck him was that there were no workers who came from there. they were coming from interior mexico. just to try to find a better life. and if we are going to create a better life for people in the u.s. and mexico -- this definitely has not. we do not believe that building , it is going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is trade agreements that speak to the interests of the 99%, not just 1%. the new york times reports on the transpacific partnership that under the negotiations, there would be wage increases for mexicans. -- it sayshat the

the trade secretary has been meeting with lawmakers to address complaints. and with other nation trade ministers to encourage countries to act on their commitments now on labor rights. -- mexico's president recently sent legislation to his congress that would address american complaints about its restrictions on unions. such measures have been a priority of senator ron wyden from oregon, the pro-trade lead democrat on the senate finance committee. they are unlikely to satisfy most americans. what theou know about mexican president sent to his congress, and will it help? guest: i really don't know anything about that. we know that three weeks ago, i by somebody in mexico that there had been no actual legislation signed.

i will say that if you look at ,he transpacific partnership there is a real probability that jobs in mexico will be sent to -- to say now,am we are going to give mexican workers labor rights, at a point when a lot of those jobs are , just asdisappear hundreds of thousands of mexican , when china china entered the world trade organization, the tpp will create a situation where mexican jobs and u.s. jobs will be going to low-wage countries, undemocratic countries like vietnam, ruled by a communist

party. which has massive human rights violations. while anything that increases good,ghts of mexicans is labor rights might be a good thing but if you don't have a job, labor rights don't do you a lot of good. mexican at u.s. workers and central american workers to our going to see a lot of job losses. from the tpp. host: richard is next from south carolina. caller: hello? thank you. , i agree with a lot of what you're saying.

in south carolina, we have lost so many jobs in the trade agreement. manufacturing has left the state, it it has devastated us and a lot of other states. you, i do think we need a wall, i disagree with you on that. as an american, watching what i have been watching, i think the immigrants have had an effect on and i have seen people protesting the trump rally, where they come out and wave mexican flags -- i do think we definitely need and mexican wall. how a wall would affect things, one way or another. goes, clintone did the tpp thing and it has our country.

host: any thoughts about what a wall would do to trade? i really can't tell you what a wall would do to trade. i can tell you what it would do to relationships between the u.s. and mexico. between texas and mexico. if you are here on the border, it is oneerstand economic entity that has a river running through it. what we would like to have as a allowpolicy, it would people to stay in their country. to allow people to make a decent living in their country. thatps that is something anti-wall proponents can agree on. while i believe that people have basic rights in the united ,tates, citizens or noncitizens

everybody deserves to be able to make a living in their own country. that is what we are fighting. -- it would is being a lot of what pointed out as the positive aspects. jobs connected to trade with mexico and trade with the central american free trade , a study done said millioner tpp, 1.2 central american workers will lose their job. that is going to be a lot of folks who will be voting with their feet to come to where they

can survive and live. tppwhen a u.s. policy like or nafta before, creates that situation, when we trade our guns with new mexican workers, -- none of the folks who benefit from the agreement or the folks who utilize them mean to create hatred. we have members of congress who badd for nafta who created situations in those countries and then when central americans want to come to the u.s., congressmen are the first to condemn them. stealing our jobs -- no mexicans stole the jobs. u.s.eo of a multinational

corporation send the jobs to mexico. host: let's go to tallahassee, florida. caller: good morning. i have a couple of questions and a comment. that the senator prior to was talking about how $11 billion in economic growth? that is a fact why people are flooding over here. offerst true that nafta a free movement of people, and that is why we were inflected by all of the different nationalities? i was wondering if that is true, in reference to nafta. my question is, why is it that our country and our representatives seem to be representing everybody else's

country and every other person and not us? if the economy is so good in mexico, why are people so constantly flooding our country? as far as the representative -- i believe he pretty much spoke up to what he really represents. not americans. i'm wondering if you have any thoughts on that. they supportt everybody else in the world except american taxpayers. you boblot therefore cash. something to respond to? well, i do want to say that congressman clay or, who i have known for a long time, does try to the best of his ability to represent all of his

district. in the long time i have known him, i have disagreed with him more times then not. the position on nafta and tpp -- however i do believe that he the try to represent citizens of his district. and i want to say that again, i think that for folks who are concerned about the trade agreement stripping the u.s. of jobs, they should be thinking more about the folks who negotiated these agreements and who benefit from the agreements. mexican workers did not benefit from these agreements. you can say yes, it created a lot of jobs, but the wage rate in mexico has gone down. poverty has gone up. farming has been destroyed.

when peoplee that say look, look at the mexican workers, stealing jobs, they are trying to make us not look at the folks responsible. and if you look at the advisors to the negotiations, it included , 550pp -- 600 advisors were representatives of major corporations at industries. they are the folks who are benefiting. not mexican workers, not u.s. workers. we should be looking at those folks and not trying to scapegoat or blame mexican cases areho, in many forced to come to the united states because they have lost their livelihood.

living, theyake a have been doing jobs which are great jobs in the united states. they are forced into sweatshop labor. we are talking with bob cash, the state director of the texas fair trade coalition. he was talking about the impact of the north american free trade agreement, and right behind him, that traffic there is often on wheels.a the result of the nafta free trade agreement signed in 1994. the construction that happened is our location. we are alive from the world international trade bridge. this bridge is a 14 lane bridge. it is 977 feet long. it is for commercial traffic only.

from 4500-6000 trucks pass through on a daily trucksaround 3 million yearly each. we have 15 minutes left for more of your phone calls for bob cash. let's go to marry in texas. caller: thank you for taking my call. bob, one comment i want to make. me and my wife were discussing the tpp. we have been talking to our andressman and our senators talking about debunking the whole thing about tpp and the fact that 80% of the american people don't want it. if they were going to put it off until after the election so they could cram it through on a

lame duck session. and i guarantee you that is what they want to do. host: that is what the new york times is reporting this morning. did you have a question? respondjust want you to to the strategy they are referring to, that they were trying to get this through during a lame-duck session. guest: that is certainly one of the things they are looking at. it appears that the administration up until recently -- itill hoping to have seems less likely but we have to be prepared. i understood they were contacting their congressman about this issue. nafta is bad, the

trade pacific partnership is worse. contract --ould should contact their congressman. it to take place during a lame-duck session. because every presidential candidate, bernie sanders, hillary clinton and donald trump have come out against the tpp. host: let's go to new hampshire. darrell. caller: good morning. mr. cache, thank you for your service. the reason i was calling because is that every time the united states signed a free trade agreement with anyone, a problem is that anyone -- the only one who keeps to it is us. ,nd everybody we try to help

the smaller folks, the only one out are the corporations and the top 1%. when they signed the last agreement, jamaica. it was to produce a nana's. a big national conglomerate came in and sold bananas for $.10 on the dollar. the same thing happens in mexico, like you said with small farmers. -- i was innoticed manufacturing for several years, i worked for two companies and both companies went to mexico -- like i said, we always get the short end of the stick. mean, you could build a wall, it doesn't matter how long or how far. also, all the immigrants that come here, if you start

deporting everybody you would have to clean out all the hotels in florida. though to any hotel in florida from jacksonville to miami, they are filled with foreign workers because americans don't want to do that work. host: i will leave it there. bob cash, can you give an example of under the nafta trade agreement, where the u.s. stuck to its promises but mexico did not or companies did not? well, it there are jobs on both side of the border. -- i can't think of anything right now in terms of the government or specific companies breaking any nafta standards. is, the way nafta was set up, it was bad for the

majority of folks. i do have a little more conversing in china. as far as the world trade organization. breaking those -- if you remember the world trade , it was supposed to act like a market economy. and just recently, there have been several examples from china of breaking trade rules by dumping products in the united states and dumping them in a ,anner where they were so cheap it requires stand pegs for drilling. products -- just the steelworkers union

has been complaining about the chinese bringing it and there is an investigation and i know that china. were put back on i'm not sure if they are still in effect. china has a pretty consistent policy of breaking trade rules. host: let's go to california. good morning. caller: good morning. believe in trade, results. we know it works. i have two comments to make. in south make a car building factory in mexico and sell it in mexico.

don't bring it back across the border. we should have the same trade policy in china, korea, japan -- it is a simple ideology. host: mr. cache? guest: i really could not understand most of what he was saying. can you tell me what his point was? host: i don't know if i was following exactly, but he was talking about better trade policies with canada and mexico and other countries. well, i agree that we need better trade policies. and freealance trade labor standards and to look after the environment. and we need to set up a situation where wages