in ning all kinds of ways human resources management that, you know, a generation ago weren't done. helps that. etwork, linkedin is an example of that. that's why i'm so glad reed has joined my innovation board. keep thinking o about how we manage our people if we're going to keep, retain the best. kevin: are we going to recruit a cyber colonel? bring someone in at 06, that level. sec. carter: that's the get from we have to congress. i'm seeking that kind of authority. now, i want our service chiefs trying to ries, i'm give them latitude, not rules. so i want them to decide which specialties and so forth that sense.ost so we'll see that over time as they think about it. the 'm trying to give them latitude to change where they see an opportunity that the rigidity doesn't permit exploit. kevin: i'll go right here to john.

audience: thank you. harper with national defense magazine. mr. secretary, can you give us a review of the kind of people you'll be adding to the defense innovation board in the future, people who might surprise us. you tasking them with tackling any particular urgent challenges, or is it more of just a general, how are you doing business, and the kind of looking at? you're sec. carter: well, i would have told you if i was going to tell today. but you get -- i mean, i think right, i see tune, reid hoffman, who son, these are people know something about innovation and have actually done it. so are there going to be surprises? there are surprises for you. i'm certainly looking for surprises for me. that's the whole reason to have is i want to learn from

them things that we haven't thought of that would be good us. now, i'm not expecting them, just to show you, i'm not to know about defense. i know about defense. defense.e know about that's not my problem. i would like to know what's going on in the outside world thati might not know about has proven successful that might be applicable to us. that's what i'm looking for. nd these are all innovative people. and i, just in conversations with them, i have this time.ence all the people say, well, here's what i did to build my company, to think my way through this problem. to get people i needed. hmm, now, to myself, why haven't we done that? nd a bug bounty is a perfect example. chris lynch, i don't know if chris is still around. why hadn't anybody in the that? government done well, there's not really a good answer to that, right? it's a pretty successful thing. it's essentially free. and you get all of this talent, and they're having a great time.

getting a security audit for free. it's like, wow, pretty good deal. well, somebody else thought of that. we didn't think of that. if all we ever apply is things thought of, we're not going to remain the best. you know, wonderful as we are, think of going to everything. the whole point is to connect to innovation.rld of kevin: and as reporters, i was formerly an investigative used to ask the military the same thing. the big data set, how come you that? do the answer was always, because congress didn't tell us to. don't have mandate, the rule. sec. carter: need more get up and go than that. kevin: i'll take the last question. you mentioned earlier congress, you needed approval to do a lot especially you want, with reforming acquisition and john mccain put forth some things. what's your response to some of suggestions right now? sec. carter: it's mixed. appreciate the effort that both chairman mccain and

chairman thornberry and their have put in, because i think they're trying to think the same way. what's in the future? so i do have some differences. and, in general micromanagement from the hill of what our functions eadership is not a good idea. some time and ke think that there are important ideas having to do role of example, the he chairman in integrating combatant commands transregionally. i've made some proposals there. there's definitely a need there, and i would like to that.to people about improving our acquisitions system. i've been at this a long time, always ready to talk to people about those ideas. but the two things that i hope through and that i agree with are

eferring wartime funding in a time of war, and budget instability. that just really hurts us. and all i can do is ask people come together behind us. and all these management again, is and so forth, think micromanagement by the congress of executive departments is not a good way to go. willing to work with them in terms of provisions. proposals made some yesterday. this is the first of the future will require being enacted. but they're the ones that our enior leadership, our service secretaries, our joint chiefs of and the senior leadership, you know, we really fought hard about these things. years working and through them and they're considered proposals by the charged with ve running the department of

defense, and i think that we respect the judgment, the collective judgment, of the eadership of the department of defense and so i hope we can work through some of these with them. kevin: war funding and instability are the two things i've heard -- you're the third to worry aboutry those things, since i've come to the pentagon. so never too early to ask. around to ng to be keep these -- all these changes nd initiatives going january 20? sec. carter: president obama, every day he's president, as me to. he wants 'm confident, though, that the ideas that we've been talking about today makes so much sense hat they'll continue in the future. i mean, look at these, people roper.ll this is necessary. i think everybody gets it. gets the logic of it. and so i'm confident that long any individualor leader is gone, these things are

they to continue, because make so much sense. kevin: well, thank you. wrap up, i think it's very important to have this conversation now, and i thank here, ry much for coming because it's been about a year plus since your initiative has started. i said on the top, there has been a lot of reporting at ifferent levels for the security press corps, things like technology. i've been with you on the road, him talk to ar scientists and computer labs. it's a whole other ash carter, talking about that and white house policy and budget lines. but it's an exciting field and i then t does take hold and we'll have a lot more to talk about. so we want to thank all of our participants today and thank audience, for showing up, those of you watching on the live stream. underwriters like d.a. and dale and the rest. privilege take the to announce, this is our tech is it but the biggest event

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of you will be similar to the update the president will receive when he convenes his on onal security team tuesday of next week. as you know, the president periodically every two or three meeting with his national security team to review rogress and to consider any updates to our strategy. so that meeting will be convened at the treasury department. usual assortment of national security officials will be joining him for that meeting and, as usual, the president will have a statement at the conclusion of the meeting to sense of what was discussed. i'll turn it over to brett. he's got opening remarks and a here and he'll stick around 10 or 15 minutes to take questions. it t, do you want to take away? brett mcgurk: it's great to be here. i was here a few months ago. i want to give an update on this and challenging campaign. when the president addressed the american people in september

talked about our global to grade and ultimately destroy isil. we've made a lot of progress where we were back then until now and even where we were when i addressed you some months ago. do is just kind of briefly how we analyze this most difficult challenge. mind, ant to keep in before i talk about the progress, i want to put the caveat in, this is one of the terrorist nging situations we've seen in some time. 40,000 foreign fighters from all the world have poured into syria the last four years. unprecedented challenge in terms of numbers but that's why to build a global effort to address it. it in three dimensions. there's the core in iraq and syria. self-proclaimed caliphate.ony i've traveled around the world and the common denominator when i ask leaders what is it that's

young people to this movement? the common denominator is this of a common on caliphate so we have to shrink the core and i'll talk about that in some detail. that's the core and then there are the global networks, the fighter networks that feed the iraq and syria, the financial networks and the propaganda networks, and we are ly through a global coalition every single day thoseing and constricting networks. i just came from a state department where i addressed 66 ambassadors and representatives coalition to talk about how we're doing, particularly in that global network piece. seven n they have affiliates around the world, self-proclaimed affiliates. get too rtant we don't distracted about these. many are preexisting terrorist as bocaho ran and nigeria. focused on them even after they're flying the black flag of isil. like libya where we see isil sending some of its

libya to set up an affiliate, we do get concerned and focus on it. leaders quite effectively with precision which we've done and work with the backnment to begin to take the territory isil holds, and that is very much under way. let me go through very briefly look f the indicators we at in terms of how we're doing against isil, and i'll just kind eighti'll allude to about of them, because it shows where we are and where we've been. morale , we look at the of the overall fighters and the overall force, and the morale it was pared to where even four or five months ago is plummeting. we're seeing them execute their fighters on the battlefield. we're seeing them unable to move fighters around the battlefield seeing recruits fall off precipitously. don't take it from me. and at their own statements what they say to their own potential recruits. terrorist sman is a named mohammed adnani. e has talked for years about this movement as a global historic expanding movement.

say in their y propaganda is that we are going to retain and expand our territory. expand.stantly going to a year ago, their propaganda was hese black flags taking over the middle east and moving into southern europe. his last statement several weeks ago was very different. said, we might lose raca, we might lose mozul, which they but we're still going to be around so come join us anyway. t's kind of a very different message that we're hearing and i think it's one that's not quite as appealing to the potential recruits. morale is plummeting and they're executing their own fighters. umber 2, their ability to hold territory. they have not had a successful operation, particularly in iraq, in over a year. 50% of their about territory in iraq, about 20% of the territory in syria and it's continuing to shrink. most importantly, the strategic territory that they held is shrinking quite dramatically. border with turkey is no longer accessible to them, and in iraq, ficant towns made, tecrete, ra

arukba, going out in the western accessible longer to them and all the connections between raka and mozul have been cut off. number 3, their access to ready-combat fighters. summer of in the 2014 they had as many as 31,000 fighters in their ranks. down, at the lowest historic point we've seen, we an mate, it's hard to get exact number but between 19 and 25,000 and it's continuing to shrink quite rapidly. to recruit and to move foreign fighters around the world, which is very important of our homelands, is also much more difficult. president went to the u.n. security council and the u.n. general assembly in 2014 passed a historic security council resolution 2178, that really shined the global spotlight on this problem. with then, and in working our coalition, 45 countries have enacted laws to restrict the

terrorists toeign travel through their territory. 35 countries have made arrests in broken up cells and through sharing information between different capitals, we learn more and more and create a virtuous cycle. we now have information-sharing agreements with 50 countries all this,d the world to combat and we're working very closely with interpol. interpol is a critical partner ours. we have about 4,000 isil foreign fighter profiles in the interpol database. a 400% increase from when we started this in the fall of 2014. guys much harder for these to travel and move around. fourth indicator, their access revenue. their revenue, we think we've cut off entirely their revenue outside.oming from the they rely entirely on self generation. il, oil trade, sale of antiquities and we have systematically gone about with work ood intelligence throughout our whole government effort to target that. they've cut their salaries in half. you know, we've talked about it before and targeted their oil

production. targeted their trucks that move the oil around and they are no longer able to do what they used to do. again creates a virtuous cycle. they cut the pay to the fighters. don't want to remain in the organization. hey desert, their morale plummets, they can't fight and we can beat them on the battlefield. our fifth indicator is the borders. when we started it, they controlled the entire syrian and now that is shrinking rapidly, particularly monvich,going effort in which i'll talk about briefly. six, they have capable and leaders. this is an organization in which in 2014 went in mozul at the grand mosque in mozul and said we're caliphate.g a we haven't heard from baghdady since late last year, and this a confident organization. you can just see it in their own tatements so their leaders are not nearly as confident, not nearly as capable, and we are killing one of their senior or

leaders once every three days now. we've taken out about 100 just months alone, ew and this is because of the intelligence that we're able to gather from everything that we're doing. fact that we have local actors on the ground, local ground working closely together with us on intelligence, everything the doing over iraq and syria and everything the heroic forces are doing on the ground and syria is creating this virtuous cycle. the propaganda is not what it before. they had an open season in 2014. we've worked very closely hroughout the global coalition to make sure we get this stuff off twitter, off facebook, off youtube. very closely with facebook and twitter. taken about 125 pro-isil handles. every pro-isil, there's about six counter-isils day, 24/7. every we have several partners in this, the u.k. asia.

localized structure but we're going at it every day. global cohesion. they see themselves as a global organization. cohesion is shrinking at the heart of their so-called aliphate in syria and iraq to their so-called affiliates is drying up and shrivelling up. it's harder to get into syria now. they tell the recruits, don't think about coming to syria, coming to libya but libya is increasingly not a hospitable environment for them. if you think about libya which isn't in the news as much as iraq and syria. few months ago there was no government in lib yachlt there's now a government backed by the united nations. in tripoli. ground it's working with local forces working on the ground with that that is pushing into the heart of what isil thought was a strong hold and cert and they're making real progress. we have a lot of work to do in libya. there's a lot of actors on the ground and it's a core principle ours that actors need to recognize that civilian-led

there, if and from the government of libya requests help from the international ammunity i think they'll find very willing partner. let me briefly highlight a few points on this map. this map the last time i was here, and just to ituate everyone, every color that is in this map are areas that isil at one point or another controlled. of 2014, all er those colors, pause they were baghdad, you n might remember those days. everything in green are areas that they've lost since then. in orange are areas the very control and small splotches of dark red are areas they've actually gained. end ofp only goes to the april which is unfortunate because since the end of april of majornched a number offensive operations with our partners on the ground. so there's a lot more green on there was at han the end of april and we hope to have an updated map coming out in the next week or so. highlight a couple of points on the map. i won't go through the whole hing but, number 1, thoot the

kilometer the 98 strip of border with turkey which is very important. it's the last strip of border it controls. done a great job of sealing off the area on the turkish side of the border but take the territory away in syria we remain vulnerable. town there called monvidge, which is where we attackers and is brussels attackers pooled in they would here organize their attack. so we have to work with forces this ground to close out area. we've pushed -- this is the mara line, the extent of isil's western advance and we've worked to push sition groups to the east. that's proven to be very difficult because they have met from ierce resistance isil, suicide bombs, truck bombs. so we opened a new front about a week ago and this is going extremely well. a force called the syrian

emocratic forces and the force that is doing this operation, there's about 3500 of them, and it is based upon a core we set when we developed this strategy, and this is fundamental to the fundamental to our dod campaign plan, and also the strategy.c we want local people who know the local area to organize and areas.e their this is not -- we don't want obviously american troops going the streets and alleys of these towns. we want local people with local knowledge to liberate their own territory. so when it comes to monvidge there's an organization called council.dge military there are about 3500 fighters. local arabs are from monvidge. i met some of their leaders when kobani.n i've met them elsewhere and they launched an operation about a crossed the uphrates river here, and what some of the local forces said was one of the most complex

some ers they've seen in time. they've come under fire, taken casualties. of the he leaders council that i also met was killed in the operation. they've named this operation him and they've continued to advance. they continue to advance so monvidge is now almost entirely surrounded. taken away vidge is from isil it will really cut off raca, ability to move from to move fight ers and to threaten us and our partners and our homelands. so it's a very important operation. launched about a week ago. there was months of work that went into it. go,y still have some ways to but we're focused on it and it is critically important. and once we're in there, we the amount of information we'll be able to get about isil, about the leadership networks, important for further unravelling it. very quickly. raca, of course, remains kind of and we thinkrters, a lot of their leaders are still there, although fewer than there

were. said, we're continuing to target those leaders in raca. reasont importantly, the the president decided to send additional special forces to 50-300 is g from because we think we've hit a ormula that works, again, organizing local people to fight isil, combined with air support and combined with hard local that we're doing, it works. and what we're doing to move own on raca is recruiting an increasing number of arab fighters from these areas to liberate their own territories. obviously, we have people on that ound helping to do training and so far, we think it's going quite well. move around to number 5, mozul.rse, the president has authorized additional military agents for mozul. and are getting in place i'm confident when the decision comes to use them, they will be and it will be coming. for mozul, we're doing a lot of

work inic and political our coalition to make sure the humanitarian, the stabilization aree and the local politics set up so we do mozul right. mozul is very complicated. people about a million in mozul. there's arabs, kurds, different thnicities and we want to make sure everybody is pulling together and working together. here i give the government of iraq a lot of credit. they have allocated in their budget 15,000 local fighters part he providence to be of the mozul campaign. we're working closely with the urdish partners and the government of baghdad to organize and coordinate this entire effort. that is very much under way. of course we won't put time frames on it but we feel good how it will turn out. tecrete, i mentioned it last time. isilimportant in defeating and not just thinking about what's coming next. the day after n isil.

our global coalition, we've been to pull resources and i think we hit on the effective echanisms which has revolutionalized the post-conflict stabilization effort. returning people to their homes like this is ct one of the hardest things to do historically. we've looked historically. years, if ever. in tikrit. an iconic ourse, sunni city in a mixed providence. population, 95% of the population, according to the to statistics has returned the city of tikrit and that is because we have a stabilization funding mechanism through the coalition. funded about $100 million at any given time. it's able and you can draw from it and flush resources at the local level. iraq is nment of determined to decentralize as much as possible to provential officials and to make organized people are to secure the streets. in tikrit, security is provided

which l police, eventually gives people the confidence to come home. once they start coming home, you tipping point and the population returns. in tikrit, that is going very well. the entire population is back in iraq entirely now, about 700,000 people have come back to their homes. that's important because one of the main challenges in this part of the world are refugees and flows and we want to make sure as we defeat isil, -- steadying the condition for people to return to their homes. 8.nd 7 is the euphrates valley. if it uld all be green was an updated map. we have worked closely with the ocal people to liberate their own territories and the tribes of anbar providence. fighters are authorized to work with iraqi forces and they have cleared the entire euphrates valley up to hedefa. because it ificant wouldn't have been done if it were not for the support of

local people. ramadi, we're trying to do the same thing as in tikrit, bringing people to their homes. we have about $25 million effort in o the ramadi. we have 2500 people in ramadi in the streets. working very rs closely with the government of province. is and how barbaric isil why we have to wipe them off the map. those we left an area, who survived, they left ied's everyoby troops in almost home. of the 70,000 people who eturned, about 100 them were tragically killed to find a booby trap in their closet or efrigerator, so the government stopped the returnees. we as a coalition met in rome ith key contributors from the coalition. we raised about $25 million to help the demining, getting all boobytraps out of these

renowned there's world experts on the ground in ramadi to help clear meter by meter to come back to their homes. to get a sense of this, it's a detail weetting every can focus on and because we have a coalition we can draw in try toes to dramatically help. right now they're clearing booby traps and the ieds to help back to their homes. just to the southeast is fallujah. the fallujah operation has been news and very much ongoing. overall we're focused on three dimensions. military course, the campaign and this is being led to enter the city of fallujah. important. it's being led by the iraqi army, counter-terrorism service and local tribes. the overall force, about 20% is ers anbari tribal fight and entering the city it will be iraqi security forces and ultimately those tribal fighters. forcessterday, the iraqi

punched through the main crust f isil's defense and set up a foot hold in the southern edge of the city in a very critical military od and our personnel who knows this better than anybody, i was talking to eneral frank mckenzie yesterday, who knows this ground, very significant to get hat foothold and continue to push forward. this will take weeks. it won't be fast. by n, they have to go block block clearing ieds. we are helping the iraqi they operate s as under the iraqi chain of command. there have been reports of some atrocities committed by some of the popular mobilization forces, primarily the shia vol tears who are in the outskirts of fallujah and we discussed this with prime , we discussed it throughout the government and so far, everybody is saying and oing the right thing to make sure anyone who commits a human rights violation is held to account. security forces as the idps come out, we have to do the

same thing. coming to screen as out, do bio metrics to make sure is not infiltrating the idp population but it has to way.ne in a coordinated we've worked with the local governments to make sure there's make l representative and sure it's going well. we're focused it and the government of iraq is also on it. final point before i turn it to questions. rufa, and that's all orange. on the map it would be green. there's a highway from iman into baghd baghdad. iran a couple of weeks ago. there's about tens of millions through everyming single month. it's dried up since isis came in. forces with urity about 1,000 tribal fighters from area cleared out isis from rufa about two weeks ago, nd we're working to secure a

local highway which is critical for our close partner jordan and also of course for iraq. the kind of pressure coming from all directions. it's not just iraq and syria but it's global and i think overall while this remains a tremendous, challenge, the strategy is kicking into gear and we're making progress and we'll talk to the president next we are and how we might further accelerate. >> thank you, brett. good detail laid down here. josh, do you want to start. you.ence: thank i wanted to ask about mozul and you talked about being led by local forces. you about somere of the shiite militias with on a n support are taking lot of the action and the -- how the risk of their bath of ectarian blood clash? hat could have a brett mcgurk: tikrit was a test for this.

ago.was about a year you had a lot of popular mobilization units primarily hia operating in that battle space. we worked out a formula in which those units wouldn't go into the city of tikrit itself. the units we support importantly all have to be operating iraqi command and control. there's a couple of reasons for that. one, we are not going to support strictly operating under the command and control. and secondly, we don't want to make any mistakes and sometimes sky it's hard to tell who's who. a lot of these units are operating under iraqi command and control. there are a couple of exceptions, with the exceptions iranes have tremendous influence over outside the iraqi command structure. it's a big problem for us and for the government of iraq. we discussed this with the iraqi authorities just as early as yesterday, i was talking to our ambassador, and it's a concern. far, the plan for fallujah and who is entering the ity are the iraqi security forces operating under that

command and control structure. it's a concern. i will say everybody, if you now the iraqi scene, the grand ayatollah, all the way down, shia side is he saying the same things. everybody who violates anyone's human rights has to be held accountable. it's not acceptable. we're working here to liberate people of fallujah who are iraqis. sil, important to remember, is holding the entire population hostage. anyone who leaves, they're trying to kill. the rightdy is saying thing. but in the complicated environment like this and in the smoke and dust of it, which we now, there will be incidents, and it's important hen that the government holds the people accountable. >> tim. mentioned number 4, the revenues. what's the estimate of the now, and is ales that -- to what extent is it

oil down, because the prices dropped? r because of also air strikes and the counter-operation? brett mcgurk: it's a great question. and got real insight knowledge into their finances, an operation or special forces did, again, over into syria into a town shadadi, which is no and it n isil's hands was an obligation to isil's main financier.their main and our heroic special forces, incredible.are they pulled more information off that site than any raid in history. we learned more about how funding themselves throughout that operation than anything else we've done. they were generating about a year, about rs a $500 million from oil and gas nd about $500 million from antiquities trade, from extortion, from what they call revenues t extracting off the population. but based on that information

rom that raid we were able to systematically develop all of that intelligence information in working across the u.s. government into the military progress to go after how they're getting oil out of the ground and how they're selling it. reduced their production by at least 30%. we've substantially reduced to generate revenue. the numbers are fuzzy so i just a precise to give you number but it continues to go down. as we're seeing them adapt, do, we e're seeing them then get together and go to the situation room with all the experts and say how are we going stay ahead of them which is what we're going to do. this is why this is hard. just go after all the oil immediately? you have to get the intelligence, the specific what ation about exactly they're doing, so that the military effects can be precise that youthe are effect want. and it was based upon that peration deep into syria that we got the intelligence we needed to begin to really target the revenue streams, and we're going to continue to do that. we'll be relentless after that.

>> jeff. on libya and the plan next, i'm pens there's been obvious success against isil there, but present factions and gener central not in the government. so what's the plan for after to re hopefully able eradicate isis and is there going to be something else else to help the government, whether it be with services and finances, sort of the core functions? brett mcgurk: so libya, i think as you know, it's obviously complex and, you know, 10, 11 weeks ago, there was hardly any traction to say how we actually going to grapple with this? so one, they formed a u.n.-backed a government recognized by the international community, an meeting held in vienna in which the whole world rallied

to support that government. there are elements on the ground as you mentioned that have not yet recognized the authority of that government and that remains a problem. our position is very clear that any armed actor on the field in recognize the authority of that civilian overnment, the government of national accord. secretary kerry was in abudabi a couple of days ago talking some of this and, of course, talking to egyptians about this. we're prepared to work with haftar under the umbrella of the government of national accords. discussions of going on about this and i think we're making some traction and state eague at the department and special envoy on libya. weiner is working with this every day along with martin cobler, special representative. we have a lot of work to do in don't get me wrong but i think we have some traction and how to go after it and those seen on the eing ground but it will take time and we have to work it step by step

we want to ight, make sure these armed actors come under the civilian umbrella use our partners to make it happen. >> andrew. saw earlier this ing assaults, and what doing to help in case they're infiltrated the refugees refugees. it's mcgurk: in monbidge, arder than iraq, where we're working with the government. monbidge council and the authority that will be go in and work the piece.zation the borders remain difficult. border withened the

the northern kurdistan region of syria to get military flowing in. border for this reason to make sure the areas re liberated from isil and the resources can be there to help people. you're right, we've completed and the system can begin. i don't want to put a time limit on that. working with local actors with local knowledge to pull the to get the can stabilization piece right. syria is harder because we're a iously not working with central government. we are not going to work with so it ad regime, period, presents different challenges than iraq. if you look at what we've done terms of clearing out all of this territory, we've hit on a formula that works. will be a big test and will be one of the biggest blows to isil yet because it is their

fighters.eign it is their main kind of access raqqa, so we expect they will fight for it. onlyll about the plan, not the military plan but the post-isil plan. officials ome libyan are saying certa have basically fallen. and are one in surprised that they're basically mopping up. is that your assessment? they have k: i think some ways to go and i just don't want to get ahead of the remains because it pretty fluid but we're encouraged by the progress they're making. they set up a national organization room to encourage all these fighters. libya a couple of months ago when i did conferences and analysts would talk about libya, this hockey bout stick growth of isil and libya. atfact, it's remained static about 5,000 total fighters. most of them are from north

subsaharan africa. it has not grown because the rejected isil entirely. we've been able to control cert force but once you have a credible force on the ground that moves against them, there chance they could crack pretty quickly but i don't think we're there yet. read ce: is there a clear on what baghdady's status is? to say he's int . ive and well brett mcgurk: we have no reason o believe baghdady is not alive. so alls himself the leader you would think he would come out with a statement to his so-called followers. heard from him. we presume he's still alive. closer and closer to the very core so it's really a matter of time for him.

on any oft a timeline the operations for iraq and mozul. difficultbe extremely but i think we have a pretty monvidge to er localize these arab fighters to move down and isolate raqqa. audience: if i heard you correctly, you're saying there were probably more atrocities in fallujah than we know. i know we have to take the overnment of baghdad at its word that everything was doing the right thing. these sources that are giving reports about mobilization forces, how concerned are you are probably -- they are using force and that they against isiss push engage in sunnis. brett mcgurk: most atrocities being committed in fallujah are

committed by isil, and isil is killing families as leave trying to fallujah. it's happening every single day. ezedi slaves inside fallujah. that is the vast bulk of the humanitarian violations. however, we are very concerned bout some of these reports by some of these militia groups on outside of fallujah and i would just say even the leaders of these units have said, this unacceptable and they're going to hold people to account and they have to hold eople to account because these types of incidents play right into isil's overall narrative. faced this in the early days of tikrit and there's all sorts of projections of what go wrong. we've worked very hard in all things t actors to nail down and i think it was successful and that's what we're doing in fallujah right now. in a st-isil environment lot of these places very

chaotic. a sectarian dimension potentially and also a kind of a dimension.ibe it is really complex. i told the story last time i was who said all edi i have left in my life is revenge. there's a lot of that. incumbent upon we're not on the ground in fallujah. t's incumbent upon the government and the religious leaders to say the right thing and issue instructions and hold people accountable. we are concerned about it and talking to the right people lmost 24/7 to try to make sure it's handled appropriately. you feel the government of baghdad shares our concerns when they are pushed into the arms of these extremist groups, whether it's group that other would replace them. brett mcgurk: it's a good question. the governor of iraq certainly shares these concerns. is bringing with him the leadership of the country, the

of the anbar province and the national leaders in baghdad. my trip recently about seven weeks ago, i met with all the anbari sheiks, and the driving to get into fallujah was coming from the city of of anbar areas.se that is the plan. the forces to enter the city, 20% of them are local fallujahans. local police the to make sure they're controlling the streets afterwards but there isolated s of incidents which everybody is concerned about. nd so far, right now, things seem to be relatively tapped out, and we have to make sure it stays that way. coalition in he terms of local police. we are training now about 900 every three s months. it has been a real success. it's how we've been able to get the people controlling streets after isil, and we're looking to triple that number by

october. reason i met with the coalition today to talk about target. o that audience: did you say they were local police? >>. brett mcgurk: yeah, so we want, in a place er isil, like tikrit, we want people from tikrit to be the police controlling the streets. audience: a clarification. my actual question is, about two years now, of these people being pounded by a 60-plus member western coalition, we really aven't seen the number of fighters go down all that much. i mean, it hasn't even been cut in half. you describe what the foreign fighter flow looks like right now? this 25,000 strong force are foreign fighters? still pouring over the border from syria? and maybe you could give us a ense of really how many fighters you think there have been in total since the beginning? the numbers are -- so that's why there's a

19-25,000. but their ability to get fighters into syria is restricted.y so our goal is to make sure they can't get in and once they're going to get ver out. audience: but obviously still getting in, right? brett mcgurk: it's very hard to get in. propaganda. they have a magazine they release every couple of months propaganda, own they say hey, join our great organization but maybe don't go syria, go to libya. that was a sign that told us, it's much harder for thez guys syria.into we know from our sources of information it's harder for them to get into syria and harder for them to get out. we also know from libya, it's very difficult for them to get libya. the 5,000 fighters in libya, africans or from subsaharan africa so the numbers substantially. that said, as it's harder for them to get to syria, what hey're trying to do is recruit locally, to inspire home-grown attacks. so someone who's inspired over

rather than being recruited to come into syria they're trying to recruit them conduct attacks at home. they've always done that but increasingly 're trying to do. but it's a very difficult challenge, something we have to focus on. us for years.h that's why all of us in washington, the whole government, but across this kind of global international community have are to focus on it. but it's a very different problem than what we saw in we saw in what paris, which are attacks raqqabye very organizedted leaders, in raqqa, and send the leaders execute the attack. as long as they're in raqqa, we can't plan and attack. has this sort of demographic of who these people much? changed brett mcgurk: isil is made up of a bulk. forces. fighting nearly all the suicide bombers in their own numbers, they claim

119 suicide about bombers in may alone, and nearly all the suicide bombers are fighters. and the suicide bombers are what ruthlessm this kind of attack on the battlefield and civilian population. some of the rank and file, there syrians and iraqis but there those.creasing numbers of >> one more. audience: i'd like to you tell us a little bit more about the of partners. you talked about the training being given. e can go through the daily round-up at the end and see, can of a st tell us sort range. is this mainly an american can youn, a percentage, say 90% american raids, and 10%, ground troops, are we getting to a point where add more are to ground troops from coalition partners to complete the job? you, sir. brett mcgurk: so the coalitions -- the way we've

coalition, e there's -- i don't want to go through it but there's five lines of effort. military, counter-informed finances, finance, countering propaganda and military stabilization. 12the ground there are about helping the overall military air campaign and the fact that it's growing, we'vend added four partners, belgium, rance, others are also conducting operations in the u.k. with syria in the last four or five months. paris attacks, another statistic, since the paris we've increased the raid of attacks in raqqa by 100%, additional resources from the coalition and additional support from the coalition. about 20 coalition partners have doing on the ground training and advising and assisting. that's not all u.s. hat is a truly coalition effort. our sources have a number of partners together with our

forces. but we're organized across these different working groups. tabilization, which i mentioned, is led by germany in the u.a.e., and it's that group, they meet every month at different parts around he world to make sure we basically have this stabilization, this post-isil piece going as best as we can. counter-messaging i mentioned in the opening, u.k. u.a.evrnlts, constant 24/7 counter-messaging and a huge role there with the artners in the gulf because there is a religious dimension to this that obviously, we can't be the leaders on. organized by the coalition through these multiple ilitary didiplomatic humanitarian lines of effort and we hope to have a meeting in washington to bring these together. the last time we met was in rome. i think the coalition, having et with all the leaders of the entire 66-member coalition, we ave a coherent strategy, a coherent global campaign plan. every capital i'm in now, i

don't have to do a briefing of doing.e're everybody knows exactly what we're doing and it's about how can we do this better and making fighters can't flow across borders, making sure we and the stabilization piece making sure we're doing the propaganda, all of which supports the military campaign, virtuous of in a cycle of how it's going. with that said, i close on the opened with. this is a tremendous challenge. these guys want to attack us and want to attack us every single day. we have to remain vigilant. not just the united states of america but our coalition part rs and for the most we are, of course, this is a challenge that will be with us years. thank you. thank you. announcer: tonight on c-span, presidential candidate hillary donald trump speak at separate events earlier today in washington d.c. political ussion on polarization in the u.s. with rnc and er chair of the the former clinton white house press secretary. nd later, defense secretary

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