the senate is set to take votes on for gun amendments. we are joined by their legal affair staff writer. christopher murphy of connecticut spoke on the senate violence and gun legislation. what role did that play in getting senate leaders to schedule votes on monday? >> it got everybody talking here on the hill and there were negotiations all day on how to proceed. anythingt have stopped from happening because the leaders were negotiating any -- negotiating anyway. he went as far as to be the ninth longest filibuster. later tonight or early in the morning, they announced there on twoeal to get votes

democratic backed amendments. about the four procedural votes. two of those are on background checks and by senator grassley of iowa. bill is theurphys sweeping one, trying to get something bigger done. he has been a big proponent of this. what democrats call the gun show loophole. if you bike on gun from a seller that is not authorized, and they say that the terrorist groups have been telling people how to get weapons and they say this really means to be close to that with background checks from all gun purchases.

then you have the grassley amendment that is going to go at the same time. that one is about notifying the fbi or the department of justice . >> the other two that are coming up, senator feinstein's amendment, deal with those on the fbi watch list. there has been the term groundhog day used a couple of times. because those two measures came up before. >> they came up after the san bernardino california shootings that left more than one dozen dead. there was an outrage on capitol hill. it only got 405i believe. the senator offered his amendment at that time. actually stopn't

terrorists from getting weapons. still short of what they needed. these are new versions of amendments. there isn't a lot to indicate this may change enough. >> saying the justice department backs the gun control provision. what problem does the administration find with the two >> heican measures? actually might make it harder to do this legislation in the future. outjustice department came

in part because she filed a new revised amendment that adds language in the justice department. somebody tries to buy a gun and gets notified. doing an ongoing investigation that they need to not blow that investigation up. trying to add to keep a few more republicans on that side. >> these measures needed to advance. is the likelihood that any of them will get the required 60? >> we know senator murphy expressed he is optimistic about

closing the terrorists loophole. he expects optimism but it doesn't look to have enough from the other side. one of the indications us that the republicans paired up each of those two democratic whichents with their own, is kind of a signal that republicans were paired -- were prepared to back the republican version. >> as we wrap about a possible plan from senator collins, what are the democrats plans if these measures fail? areo far they have said we on passing these two measures, getting the measures passed on the spending bill. they have some things they can do after that. there are also a number of

amendments that have been filed related to gun control. >> the legal affairs correspondent for cq roll call. thank you for the update. upcoming votes in the senate were topics on the sunday talk shows. part of the discussion included california senator dianne feinstein, who is offering an amendment that has to do with the government's no-fly list. alabamaheard from senator jeff sessions. here is some of what they had to say. >> as we look at life as it is today and the possibility of and be here in judiciary, we here in intelligence, it is investigation after investigation. fact thatsider the

over 500 arrests and convictions for providing material support or conspiring with one of these things has occurred, you know that these things are going on. and the only way we have of stopping them is intelligence, plus a kind of net that will pick up foreigners on the watchlist. 99.9% are foreign. less than half of 1% are americans. this is essentially the launch -- essentially the watchlist that covers the no-fly list and others. , namesainly foreign given by foreign intelligence agencies. >> you have indications of people who might be involved in terrorism. need to do the best we can to monitor those people so they

don't become an active terrorist person. a lot of people may wrongly be on the list. there are probably a lot of people on that list who shouldn't be on it. that person has to have the opportunity to explain they shouldn't be on the list. that is what the difference is. republicans have voted consistently to ban the vote for having a gun, but given the opportunity that they should be on the list. play will see how those out when the considers those amendments tomorrow. they will require the approval of 60 senators to move forward. the vote is set for 5:30 eastern, which you can watch live on c-span two. next he will take a look at what to do if caught in an active shooter situation. this was part of a judicial conference hosted by the fourth circuit court of appeals. it is 30 minutes.

>> could i get everybody to have a seat please, so we can get started? one of the unfortunate realities of life today is we have to worry about an active shooter. judge henry hudson has prepared a program with us this morning to talk about that issue and what you should do if you were to find yourself in such a situation. will turn it over to judge hudson. judge hudson: thank you. [no audio] -- [applause]

our presentation today is about a very unpleasant topic. your life may depend on it. the theme of our presentation is when you are confronted with an active shooter, your objective is going to be survival. there are some things we're going to talk about that you should do, that may be unpleasant. in the world we live in today there is probably no security issue that is more important not only to you but your staff and family but developing and periodically practicing an active shooter strategy. courthouses, law offices, even are highnd churches visibility symbolic targets. they think simply because they haven't received any threats or haven't done anything controversial, that they don't

have to worry. of mindset can lead to major problems because active shooter sometimes pick people and institutions strictly for the symbolism and the message it gives. what is an active shooter? asdefine an active shooter an unstable or ideologically motivated individual who indiscriminately and randomly shoots people with the intent to kill them and themselves. they have a message they want to convey. once an active shooter is able to penetrate the outer perimeter of your building or office, there is no warning. active shooter's do not have signs of's -- signed or symptoms.

chaos is going to ensue. when chaos ensues we have found your employees, your staff are going to be as randomly picked off by the active shooter. found the chance of survival and the chance of your staff having an orderly response yourrectly dependent upon initiative and your leadership in putting together an active shooter response. you a graphic example of how important an active shooter plan can be. at about 9:00 in the morning and individual by the name of jack stepped off the elevator on the fourth floor of the courthouse in two peter kansas. he was coming in that day to be

sentenced for a large-scale marijuana cultivation operation. as she approached the cso, the cso had no idea that half an hour earlier he had detonated a truck bomb in front of the sheriff's office and blew everyone out of the building, as well as injured a number of -- number of people. shot and killed jean goldsberry. pushed his way through and began walking down the hallway. he indiscriminately through pipe bombs along the hallway. was deafening. he then moved into the clerk's

office and jumped over the counter. for the next several hours he , detonated 12hots pipe bombs. off inh pipe bomb went his hand and killed him. officers00 police three hours to secure the building before the chaos began to subside. i got there the next morning in my capacity as director of the marshal service. we went up and talked to the clerk first. i wanted to let them know how sorry i was for all the people injured during that it -- during that disaster. walls were blown out. i did not have one person that had a scratch on them. everybody has a designated location about where they can

shield themselves or where they go to barricade themselves to make sure the active shooter had no contact with them. it was nothing short of a miracle. the judicial security committee that every federal courthouse have an active shooter drill. i have spoken to a lot of judges who said they have a plan in place, but it is very important that you do so. minute isspector in a going to walk into an active shooter plan. is one other facet to keep in mind, and that is making sure to resources -- in addition

putting those questions in the make surealso need to you have someone in your courthouse who knows how to operate a different girl later. it happens when these things occur, you are able to stabilize until rescue arrives. people tell me the defibrillator has the instructions written right on it. who hasaverage person been trained not to use that is going to be reluctant to use that defibrillator. count when a person has a cardiac arrest. thirdly you want people trained in basic and advanced first aid and have the resources but attorney can on somebody when they are shot so they don't bleed to death before emergency responders arrive.

you want a list so everybody knows how to contact them in the event of an emergency. many of you say i don't want to even think about these situations. many give you another bit of personal advice. person exercises some leadership role in their office or in their courthouse or whatever institution they are involved in. staff looks to you for the leadership in putting together a response strategy. i know many of you here have served in the military or served in law enforcement positions where unfortunately people have been severely injured or killed in the line of duty. i still have scars from it. when something like that occurs there is a great deal of sympathy, a lot of tears and a lot of hugging. but the question that is going is a few weeks later

the family members are going to say, what could you have done to save my husband or my wife? you don't ever want to put yourself in a position. make sure if a crisis occurs you take every step possible to try to make it a safe as you can for your staff and your family. strategy ishooter not only for your courthouse, it is for your home as well. remember, your life may depend on it. my good friend and i give these lectures all the time. this presentation we will entertain any questions you may have.

>> good morning everyone. judge hudson and i have been working together quite a while, giving these presentations. i walked across the training center to receive my credentials. active shooter. it was going to be direct towards judges and staff members. ofause people work outside the courthouse, we decided we wanted to make more broad and more generic. you pick up the newspaper, turn on the tv, search the internet, chances are you are going to be hit with headlines

talking about an active shooter. many examples are here on the display today. last one being a judge who was shot outside of her home in texas. what are we going to be able to do in order to protect ourselves. the active shooter is described as a person who is actively engaged in trying to kill or killing people with a firearm. duration of the active shooter event is on average 12 minutes. . study was done by the fbi area fromering an 2000, 2013. the active shooter program over the years has developed and changed quite a bit.

it used to be law enforcement would get the scene, they surround and contain the environment and try to eliminate the threat. now the protocol is to get in as quick as you can, get in as fast as you cancel the attacker can neutralize it. between 2000 and 2013 there were 160 active shooter's. year ande of 11.4 per the first seven years of that, 6.4 per year. and moving up swiftly to 16.4. -- the personnt leaving, the person killing themselves, or usually some of both. 557 wounded. it used to be a mass murderer

was typically male. a single shooter going out and doing all of the shooting. of the incident, it will start off by shooting a family member or family members before taking it to the public. ticks of the shooters were females. 64 of them committed suicide. at least five of the shooters remained at large when the study was concluded. locations -- where newbies shootings happened. current events, you would think it was in this area or in this area. a are mostly in spaces open to the public, those that have pedestrian walk in. malls.them occurred in that, the shooting at the theater in colorado, the person went into the premier

shooting at midnight, a batman movie, what it up shooting quite people,ople, killed 12 injuring 68 others. injuring nebraska, six. an example of an area not open to the public, a distributor in connecticut where an employee was being disciplined, was going to be let go, went back and killed all of the people at the warehouse that date. educational institute. first, i thought the material in the higher learning, because was much greater. from the example here, there are twice as many that occurred in the three k-12 -- pre-k through 12. an example -- in elementary school, sandy hook in

connecticut. single shooter, killed his mom, went to the school, then killed over 20 students there and then killed himself. blacksburg, we talked about virginia tech. single shooter. dorm, killed two people, and then went to the academic building and started shooting. killed himself just before the cops arrived. government installations. we have nine military installations. ft. hood, texas, a member of the military took a gun to work and started shooting, killed 13, injured 32 others. institute,aces gabrielle giffords, the shooting that took the life of one of our federal judges is an example of shooting in an open space. , with an worship

example in south carolina shows howis review vulnerable churches are. the number of instances in churches are equal to that in malls. the chance of being in active shooter institute is the same in a church or in the mall. charlestonooting in that took the life of nine people in a church. others -- health care. where will you be when the shooting starts and what will you do when the shooting starts? before the shooting starts, we want to do a little planning. always be aware of your environment. locate the nearest exit. room, thereat this are quite a few doors all around you. there may not be a main exit. look for the exit sign. be where they are.

it used to be the protocol was contain and we will bring swat in and neutralize the threat, but the studies showed the kill we weret way up because waiting for the police to get there -- 12 and a half minutes, 18 minutes to get there. the new response is, run, hide, fight. need to getun, you out of there if you can. roomu can get out of the and get to save it -- safety, do so. leave your belongings behind. there's not a single thing you have that is worth your life that you have to wait and get it before you get out of there. help others if possible. encourage them to get out. as i said before, the police response will be to try to get people out there as quick as they can.

what you have to be aware of, you do not want to look like the threat. keep your hands visible. do not be carrying your cell phone or anything like that your hand if you're running. follow the instructions of the police officer. do exactly what he says. if he says get down on the floor, get down on the floor. anddon't be pointing screaming or anything like that. follow instructions. , 911 when you're in a safe place. once you get out of building and into a safe location, that is when you want to call. when you do call 911, give them as much information as possible. the result a lot of confusion in the u.s. navy yard shooting as to where the shooter was. they could not find which building the shooter was and.

they noticed people run doing -- running. they figure that had to be it. they got into the atrium area the sound of the shots were echoing through the room. they thought the shooter was upstairs. if you call 911, give them as much information as you can, where you were, where you heard the shooting. if you can't get out of the area, shelter in place. find a place to hide. you want to be outside the shooter from vision, want to make sure you can keep yourself covered. be're hiding place should one that is out of view, one hide from gunfire. you want to prevent them entering into your space. use wedges to wedge the door

shut. can you put furniture in front of it? does the door swing in or swing out. -- swing in or swing out? if the shooter is not targeting -- youific plate specifically, we want to persuade them to go somewhere else. hard in your target. block the door. if the door does not have a lock, barricade the door. silence your headphone. movies seen the horror and everything where the person is hiding in the bad guy has gone away and what happens? the cell phone rings. yes, you're going to want to go 911, but you want to make sure , your are in hiding mode cell phone is silent. turn off the lights. through a place recently and they have the

automatic light, motion sensing light to rid out how to turn it you have tottons hit. hide behind large items. if he is determined, if the attacker comes into your space, what are you going to do. it, resort, life depends on you're going to do anything to stuff is attacked. we saw this on the train in paris. a person with a gun. they started fighting. they knew they could not get off the train. it's a moving train. there are very few exits. so, they reacted. where the fight was, they incapacitated him. they got the gun away, he pulled a knife, they fight for their life. act as aggressively as possible. ornot think one little smack

shop will defuse it. it probably will not. steep -- keep fighting. throwing items. what are you going to use as a weapon? look around. is there something handy you could use to save your life? improvised weapons. i asked someone the other day, what did you use as an improvised weapon? they picked up an ink pen. youright, if that is all have got, use the ink pen. theuld throw something, fire extinguisher is right. what can you use. be creative. don't give up. i spoke with a young lady a couple weeks ago, talking about this presentation. i said to run and hide, and she said i could never do that. i don't know how to fight. i said you can do it. develop the mindset, you can survive. don't give up.

it's a matter of your life. fight back. the guy has got a gun. yes, if they have a gun, you still love a chance. get out there and fight. you can win this fight. scared you just little bit, the question of what do we do now? how do i protect myself? i can't just hunker in the bunker. i like to go to work, i like to go to the movies. what do i do? you need to develop situational awareness. you cannot go through life with your head down in your cell phone and be blissfully unaware of danger around you. always situational awareness. nowhere the exits are. pay attention. always look for the nearest exit. cover.d the nearest cover will protect me from the gunfire.

is there an area i can get behind that will protect me from this gunfire? start making your plan. make your plan right now. if you have your office, which is a regular space, which is there'll the time, what am i going to do? my exit is. i know where the closest stairwell is. if that is where the shooter is coming up, how do i get out? hide? i going to if this is my office or my home and i know, ok, the bathroom over here is my alibi, that is where i'm going to hide, that is but how can i put something on hand in case i have a need for it? what can i use that is going to increase my chances to help

fight off an attacker if i have to? how can i barricade the door. these are questions playing out. ensure my safety. thisve to make sure that is in our space, whether it is if we have ae. disturbance outside, here is what we are going to do. we are going to go to this location. these are the things we will use we havecade the door if to. if you have a multistory home and the kids are sleeping upstairs and you are downstairs, maybe they cannot rush to the safe room. you are going to shelter in place up here and you will try to get out this way, through a window or whatever out.

-- whatever else. same thing at the office. develop a plan. i guarantee you if you have an emergency, chances are it will not be at your desk. if i am in the cafeteria or the coffee shop or the restroom and the phone rings or whatever else, where am i going to go? how will i shelter in place there? security assessments. what we do, sometimes if there is a threat against a judge or another protected member of the family, we will do a vulnerability assessment of the home. we will look at it from the outside looking in, the inside looking out, and the inside looking in. where the vulnerabilities?

where can they launch an attack from. thehe attack in texas, person was outside, waiting behind a bush for the judge to get there. in reno, the shooter was at a parking deck and shot them through a window in the courthouse. so, what are we going to do? we are going to look around, find the vulnerabilities, and try to reduce them, try to mitigate as much as we can. if we can't, at least we know they are there. same thing at home. teach, it'sat we very hard. it's hard to get someone to cut down the brush that someone has been a lot of my developing. we can cut them down low enough. can we at least recognize that someone might be hiding behind there and what precautions can we take to make sure that no one is behind the bushes.

can we put on motion sensor lights? we want to mitigate as much as we can. trust yourand instincts. if something feels bad, chances say, wait ad. minute, this does not feel right. take a look. what is making you feel that way? chances are something is wrong. yourttention to surroundings and the activities of people around you. lots of times people are so concerned, we lose track of what is going on around us. are. not know where people make a plan soto we can react to what is going on.

practice daily. practice daily means continue to your situational awareness. walk into an area -- it does not take long. where is an exit, i am walking through the mall. where am i going to go? if i am in a restaurant, where is the exit? if the shooter is coming in the front door, can i get through the kitchen? get a sense of what is happening and what people are doing. times when the soldiers in combat were going into an area and they noticed all the sudden, i hate there is nobody on the street, there were people here a while ago, where is everybody. -- where is everybody? your actiondevelop

plan. if you're thinking about, ok, what if this happens. it's a great question to ask. develop your plans. am i going back this way? that is a broad overview of the --ive shooter response land response plan. involving thetion active shooter? someone in the back there? if you have questions or concerns, what i hope to do is develop a guide for self-assessment -- a serious self-assessment for your home. on thetry to put that sign-up sheet. i would be glad to develop that and send it to you via e-mail. thank you very much for your kind attention. [applause]

>> all right, folks, if you could be at ease for a second, i'm joined find the panel for the next segment. we will get started in just a second.

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