[cheers and applause] amy: thank you. thank you.

well, it's a really great honor to be here and to be back in new york. we're on a 100-city tour for the 20th anniversary of "democracy now!." and i also want to shout out to my colleagues, norman and dena and aaron over there in the back and the volunteers and the interns who are helping out. "democracy now!" is a joint effort, a joint project, a brain trust, a remarkable group of reporters and producers and videographers for the last 20 years. we didn't think it would go past nine months. it was the only election broadcast in 1996. i was asked to do the show when i was in a safe house in haiti and the first coupe. people who announced for office could be gunned down. people who would go to the polls would be gunned down and still the overwhelming number of people voted.

but in our country when i was asked to do a daily election show sitting there from that advantage point, many people didn't vote, facing nothing like the adversity that they faced in haiti. but most people didn't vote. and i thought, well, why do this? why do this election show? i never thought people in this country were apathetic. what were people doing in their communities, that's what we wanted to find out, and so we used the primary system to go state-to-state to see how people were engaged and, sure, there are a lot of obstacles that are put in people's paths. i mean, and they've increased over the last 20 years. you've had a brush with the criminal justice system as millions and millions of people have in this country. in certain states you might never be able to vote again. in other states, like in vermont and new hampshire -- vermont and maine, you can vote from jail.

if you go to the polls intending to vote, as people did in arizona in phoenix, they found on primary day that 140 of the 200 polls were simply closed. this year in 2016. 140 of the 200 polls. could it have anything to do with the growing latino population in phoenix? what did the authorities say? they said, they thought they'd save some money. well, you know, by that rationale, why open any poll at all? think of all you could save. of course, to say the least, this is an enormous threat to democracy. the evisceration of the voting rights act. so we've been going across this country speaking with people all over and one of the most places we went was the birthplace of pacifica radio, celebrating 67 years of pacifica, kdfa in berkeley.

you know pacifica's history. born 67 years ago, a man named lou hill, a contentious objector out of world war ii, came out of the detention camps, said there has to be a media outlet run by journalists. as the late dean of the school of communication at the university of pennsylvania, george gervner would say, not run by corporations that have nothing to tell and everything to sell that are raising our children today. and so kpfa went on the air in 1949. kpfk. we were in los angeles celebrating and i got a text on my phone and it said, juan carlos had been arrested. oh, there he is. there he is with his camera. just actually doing that. but on the streets of new york with our videographers at

"democracy now!." where were they? well, that was the night there was that anti-trump rally in new york and 1,000 people came out. and, you know, they filled the streets of mid town manhattan and trina and juan carlos were on a little bridge next to grand central. as the police moved in on juan carlos and trina, the reporters, a commanding officer said, no, they have the right to film. the problem was, the officer left. then they moved in on them and they pushed juan carlos' face into the dirt. they confiscated their equipment.

and they were arrested. so as i'm walking up on the stage at kpfk in los angeles i got a text, they've been arrested. oh, my god. what where he going to do? i text juan carlos. go to the source. are you ok? yes. are you arrested? yes. you didn't even have any misspellings. i said, are you in a police van? yes. are you handcuffed? yes. are your hands handcuffed behind your back? yes. so how are you writing? yes. so everyone sprung into action. i called juan gonzalez, co-host on "democracy now!" he called the police, i called the police. we don't spend much time calling the police but on this day it was critical since they were in their custody. we raced down to police plaza and after hours they were released but we should not have to get a record when we put things on the record. it is -- \[applause]

it's absolutely critical. you know, there's a reason why our professional, journalism, is the only one explicitly protected by the constitution, because we're supposed to be the check and balance on power and this is a very serious obligation that we have, to go to where the silence is. so the second pacifica station, kpfk in los angeles. and then 99.5 f.m. went on the air in 1960, contribute early and often and, yes, it's in another fundraising drive. now, in the first years of operation, they were broadcasting a debate between the great writer james baldwin and malcolm x over the effectiveness of nonviolence, civil disobedience, the effectiveness of the lunch counter sit-in. and then in houston went on the air in 1970. and the one in washington went on the air in 1977. that's a fabulous five. that's a pacifica network in the united states. kpft in houston is the only radio station in the country

that was blown up. in the first weeks it went on the air, the ku klux klan blew it to smithereens while one sang "alice's restaurant" and i thought it was a good song. anyway, they go on the air. they rebuild. the transmitter goes up again. and put dynamite to the base of the transmitter and blows it up again. january of 1971, they timely get ready and public broadcasting to broadcast this moment when the phoenix rises from the ashes. arlo guthrie finished his song live on the air and kpft goes back on the air. i don't know if it was the grand dragon because i confuse titles,

but he said it was his proudest act. understood how dangerous pacifica is because it allows people to speak for themselves and when you hear someone speaking from their own experience, whether it's a palestinian child or an israeli grandmother, whether it's one of the leading lawyer who took the dictator to trial, an aunt in afghanistan or uncle in iraq or a kid from the bronx. we were speaking at r.f.k. high school in albuquerque where the overwhelming majority of kids in that school are undocumented. when you hear someone speaking from their own experience, it challenges all the hate groups.

my baby, my aunt, my uncle, i'm not saying you will agree with them, how often do we agree with our family members but makes it less likely that you will want to destroy them. it's that understanding, that's the beginning of peace. i think the media can be the greatest force for peace on earth. instead, all too often it's wielded as a weapon of war which is why we have to take the media back. \[applause] ms. goodman: in these last few weeks, we have lost some great activists like michael ratner, the late president of the center for constitutional rights. there will be a memorial at cooper union on june 13. i hope everyone comes out. it would be his 73rd birthday.

he fought cancer over the last year. michael was the first to sue over the attica uprising representing prisoners who were injured or killed. he brought the first suit under the war powers act of u.s. troops in el salvador and holding those in power accountable for the iraq war, suing donald rumsfeld and bush administration officials making it uncomfortable for them or maybe impossible for them to travel in places like europe. and it was michael who brought the suit on behalf of guantanamo prisoners that they should have habe just corpus rights, be able to have their day in court.

we interviewed his close friends, michael smith, attorneys and colleagues on democracy now!" when michael died. one of the people quoted in the "new york times" was the dorne david cole, he asked michael about the guantanamo case and he said when i asked him years later what he thought his chances were in filing suit, he said, none whatsoever. he said we filed 100% on principle. david said that could be his epitaph. but the case did go to the supreme court and he won. \[applause] ms. goodman: and another of the great prove its, father dan

garrigan and people passed in church. the priest who long with his brother fill will engage in that action in 1968, may 17 that would be known as the catonsville when they took the draft files from the draft offices and they took them outside and burned them with homemade napalm. dan didn't know if he would be imprisoned for many years for that action. a week before when he was in a portland airport in maine after giving a talk, he sat down and he wrote a statement that he wanted to release right after the action.

he said, our apologies for the fracture of good order, the burning of paper instead of children. he would later say, we have chosen to be powerless criminals in a time of criminal power. we have chosen to be branded as peace criminals, by war criminals. rest in peace, father dan. rest in peace, michael ratner just as you lived. and as is evidenced here tonight, that struggle that you engaged in is sure to be carried on. \[applause] ms. goodman: that story i just told you about the ku klux klan is a story about history.

i can't believe we are talking about them today. i can't believe we are talking about the ku klux klan, donald trump, presumptive of the republican party that he would disavow david duke and whether he would disavow his support of duke and the klan, he waffled. he said he had to consider this more deeply. when is the last time you heard donald trump say i have to consider this more deeply. what exactly did he have to dive more deeply into, which klan chapter it was, you want to generalize all the chapters in the united states?

this is frightening because you are talking about a possible president of the united states. you are talking about a president whose polls are indicating that he has a very good chance possibly of becoming the president of the united states, a man who has ripped ep up the underbelly and not just his comments on the klan. look at the rallies. for example, the supporter, john mcgraw, who suckered a black active -- activist in north and he said the next time, i'll kill him and donald trump said he would pay the legal fees of these supporters if they are jailed.

the only silver lining is i heard the legal publisher and writer say he would pay their legal fees because he never pays his own. donald trump, violence at rallies. and then a very interesting peace that david corn did in "mother jones" about trump's long time butler, worked for him for 70 years and was with the family for decades. the "new york times" wrote about his name and his address in 1927 or 1928 part of a klan rally in queens and now his long time butler, the "new york times" did a piece on last march 15, not unfavorable piece, how he was so

deeply close to the family and david corn went looking around about this guy, anthony, who worked for trump. and trump didn't want to let go him away but made him a historian at his place in florida and give tours. what was he saying on facebook. in 2009, anthony told trump he was going to resign. and trump asked him not to. on facebook just this year, oh, what did he say? he talked about president obama saying, this character who i refer to as zero, he continually refers to him as zero, should have been taken out by our military and shot as an enemy agent and instead he remains in in office to gut the america we all know and love.

he goes on to say, ask why he posted messages calling for obama to be killed and anthony said i can't stand the bastard, yes, trump's historian is a birther and has been suspended on facebook for publishing material that violated facebook's guidelines. donald trump was one of the leaders of the birther movement. nothing could be more racist than the birther movement that basically uttered president obama, whatever you think of him, he is not like us. he couldn't be from this country.

this racist backlash against the first african-american president in a land with the legacy of slavery. and one of the things that the butler continually posted on facebook was the confederate flag over and over. donald trump announced for the presidency last june 16. remember what happened june 17 in charleston, south carolina. that was the day of the horror when nine people, eight people and their pastor was -- were gunned them. they all knew each other, and welcomed him. and at the end of the hour, he blew them away except for one woman, he said he wanted her to bear witness to tell the world what he had done. the survivors and the loved ones of the victim put this country to shame when they said they forgave him.

dylan storm unwittingly blew the roof off of the confederacy but i don't know if that's true right now given what is playing out in this presidential election year. when the pastor lay in state in the capitol. he was a long time state senator as well as pastor, thousands streamed by to pay their respects.

but first they had to stream by the confederate flag flying at at full mass. the confederate flag could not fly at half mass. it had been put on top of the capitol in 1960 in response to the civil rights movement. and then in 2000, because the pressure from sports franchises and naacp and took it off the capitol and on the grounds with the condition that anyone who would pull it down would face greater fine and it could not fly at half mast. i think after this killing and after the mass funeral that took at the arena where thousands came to pay their respects and president obama sang "amazing grace," if you say who took down this flag, you would say the governor of south carolina, but that's not who took down that flag. we need a media that covers media. it was 5:30 in the morning on june 27, the south carolina state house glode in the morning light. a 30-year-old african-american woman from charlotte, north carolina came from the main

entrance of the building and accompanied by a young white man and they observed around the scene of the state house rate waiting for no guards. they made their move and walked swiftly to the confederate monument that stands in front of the front steps with a confederate soldier that paid tribute to those who glorified a fallen cause, slavery. they went to the flag pole that stood behind the monument. the flag flapped lays i willly at the top and she learned how to use a few days before and she

quickly ascended the pole. guards noticed and began shouting for her to come down. reaching the top, she grabbed the confederate flag and said you come against me with violence i come against you in the name of god. i clutch the symbol of the confederacy and she said this flag comes down today. she lowered herself with the flag, as soon as she reached the ground, she was arrested. they were able to raise $125,000. she said i hope i get to direct the motion picture. within about an hour, two state house workers raised a new confederate flag on the capitol grounds. it's the day after the joint funeral, thousands of people packed into the charleston arena. the next day, the day that she took down this flag, the individual funerals were taking place. so as the victims were lowered into the ground, the confederate flag was raised by

the state once again. we race from charleston to the jail house where bree and jimmy got into the arraignment cell and they were charged and facing a penalty up to three years in prison and raced to the lobby where people were greeting them and talked to a woman who had from charlotte and she said to see the flag come down by a strong black woman one person could ever witness. and another black woman named carol parker who had no idea, she had grown up in columbia and passed the confederate flag every day of her life,

denigrated and humiliated and she said bree has done what our general assembly or governor had the courage to do. she had the courage and did what needed to be done. yes, shout it from the roof tops, she took down the symbol of the confederacy in south carolina. \[applause] ms. goodman: as i wrap up, it's absolutely critical that we have a media that covers movements. the movement that don't hit the corporate radar screen. this year with bernie sanders, he hasn't created a movement but riding a movement that has been growing for years and as so many said in 2011 after the occupation, what did that movement amount to? it was destroyed. it didn't amount to a hill of beans.

i'm sorry obviously like those who streamed to the park, the media of the first week didn't cover them at all. there is something worse than negative coverage, it's the vanishing. the media moguls passing by the elite journalists. and i remember erin burnett who started her show on cnn, her first piece was called "seriously." this is how the media mocks them. they can't settle on an issue, against the death penalty, war, racism, inequality and concerned about climate change.

all of those issues together and they would say, can't even decide on a spokesperson but if they are a leader list movement. occupy, occupied the language. now if you say 1% or the 99%, everyone knows what you are talking about. you change the language. you change the world. so many -- and i want to move from occupy to the issue of climate change, where i'll end. but that year 2011 was astounding for the arab spring which i think partly inspired the uprising in wisconsin, the home of afscme and the john birch society and anti-civil rights, anti-king organization that was co-founded by fred koch, father of charles and david koch.

and you move from the wisconsin uprising to the protests against the key ston xl and then the u.n. climate summit. you know we cover every climate summit from copenhagen to do har, poland, peru and paris and given what happens, why waste the fuel? because it's not what happens inside, it's what happens outside. the thousands of people who come from the most threatened parts of the planet, who come to these sum myths to say like the 15-year-old boy saying, my country will be submerged and the people from subsahara, saying you are cooking our continent. demanding we change.

they have debates in the rest of the world. those are debates on what to do about climate change. whether human beings have anything to do with climate change. the science is settled. every time we talk about the planet earth, we brought up someone from the flat earth society for balance, but something unusual happened in 2011, when the outside was invited in because of pressure from the outside. the youth were indicted to address the world body and this is where i want to end.

a student here in the united states from college of the atlantic in bar harbor, maine, where we just spoke last sunday. seeing all of these issues as connected. hundreds of youth came into the world body and they surrounded the delegates, the world leaders, the bureaucrats, the scientists and she came to the stage and say i speak for more than the world's population and we are a sigh ent majority. what does it take to get a stake? you have been negotiating all of my life. you fail to meet pledges, you missed tats and broken promises but you heard all this before. africa and the communities are on the front line. the science tells us we have five years max and you say give us 10. the betrayal of your responsibilities to ours is you call this ambition. where is the courage in these rooms? now is not the time for incremental action and this will be seen as an era where narrow self-interest prevails over

science, reason and common compassion. she said long-term thinking is not radical. what's radical is to completely alter the climate's planet and condemn millions to death by climate change, what's radical is change is within our reach. 2011 is when the silent majority found their voice and 2011 was the year when the radical became reality and then she quoted president mandela who said it always seems impossible until it's done and looked out on the vista of faces and said delegates and around the world, governments of the developed world, deep cuts now. get it done and we were there. the only national broadcast from this country to be broadcasting every day the voices inside and out and broadcasting them

throughout the world, yes, we need the media like "democracy now!" and community television in new york and independent media all over this country and around the world to link together to break through the static that within the distortion of lies and half truths that obscure reality, we need the media to give us the definition of static, criticism, opposition, unwarranted interference. we need a media that covers power. we need a media is the fourth estate not for the state and we need the need yeah. "democracy now!" ." \[applause] \[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] \[captioning performed by national captioning institute]

the culmination of that and doing databases of genes and so forth allows us to really probe the molecular biological structure of life. stem cells the command of your blood. extremity treatments. you can see the entire conversation tonight at 9:00 eastern time.

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>> we are here today to talk about lifelong learning. classroom k-12 higher education. whole piece of the industry that really lives more in the consumer world websites are that isd the news media actually providing a very critical role in learning. it is often not included in the conversation. we are very thrilled to be here hosting the conversation about i wouldit area encourage you to join us for the conversation. it is pervading everything that is happening today in education. to lisa andto talk mike about the news media and the role that the news media plays in education and learning

throughout life. recording conversations. also it's a fascinating people talking about learning and their own journeys. we encourage you to join us for those things. what role does the news media play. the ceo of public radio international. public radio is carrying the torch for many people in the role of lifelong learning. another organization that plays a big role is mike from clipboard. if you think about how people use clipboard is how they use

lifelong learning throughout the day. i've asked them to start explaining what they think they are organizations are responsible for. mike: it's great to be here. when i was in high school there was no hope that i was going to college. i was not a good student at all. i was the oldest of six kids. my dad was dying of cancer. my mom was distracted with keeping track of running a small business that my data my mom had built over the years. i could've gone either way high school. i could've ended up outside the pyramid. it was a tough time. thing that i was was the fact we

had a computer lab. it was the first time i've ever seen a computer. you couldn't take any computer courses until you were a senior so i was a freshman who was a long way off. i had no idea what i was doing. talk?d can you it said syntax error. so i said have you used these things? magazine for computers. back in 1981. this magazine was written all about these computers and would feature programs that people would submit and have all the source code. and there be articles about how the program was created. i became a huge avid reader of these magazines.

was called creative computing magazine. a lot of these things we started to see with steve jobs and bill gates, entrepreneurs were happening in silicon valley. i started to get inspired to program. learn how to program. i taught myself. i got inspired about building a business. starting about making my own video games that i could one day submit 20's magazines. get afinally able to video game for about $50. for the time that was pretty good. future was shaped by what i read the stories that i read these magazines the taught me and inspired me and maybe the person i am today.

clipboard is with creating an environment where those kinds of great stories can theyscovered by people who will change their life. move them forward. or professional or political leader. we feel that over about six years. about 85 million people use it. they used to collect great packaging stories that they are really passionate about. you call your interests. what you see are things that people are sharing and curating methods interest. it is a wonderful experience. it is modeled after a magazine. it has a beautiful use of an iphone or tablet. it is curated by people who share your passions and enthusiasm for what you are interested in.

it's all about lifelong learning. inspiring people with these great stories. it's been an amazing journey. elisa: there are some similarities in our stories. it is that seed were young. the earlier discussion is so important about. i've always been very interested in media and technology and storytelling. how to readearned my first word from watching sesame street. it was the word it. i remember that moments of the storytelling and having that interaction in my life. how important that was to me. when an apple e computer showed up in our house i was very curious about it.

i was try to make the lights -- across the screen. i taught myself a little bit of programming. stem a girl interested in before we knew what that was. whodn't know people programs. i had no idea there was this whole of the world out there. i became the head of digital products for sesame street. it was interesting coming full circle for me. enthralled about working with elmo. i got a call about a job in public radio international. this is my dream. i traded in a fuzzy puppet for

carl castle. but it's kind of all the same thing. had we have people who are compelling and storytelling. engage them in an interesting conversation. we are an exciting times. also scary times. when it comes to media and technology. whether we are educating our building my knowledge or not. there's some very interesting data on that. at pri way we approach these issues is to think about knowledge and where can we fulfill unmet needs. difference wee a focus on the fact that there is massive spreads of misinformation in society right now. not just about informing and putting it out there.

massived economic forum spread of misinformation in 2014 was one of the top 10 challenges facing the world. worlde think about our problems like global warming and how we deal with income inequality in all kinds of issues. if you don't have the information you don't have the fact from number 10 and can affect the other nine. voices we bring more into the conversation that aren't there today. their six corporations that control 90% of the news product in the united states. we need to have antidotes to that. we need to use technology to help counterbalance to that. apathy comespread

from disenfranchisement. how people can change their lives and feel more connected with their communities. it was also my curious moment. when i was in sixth grade and they ran out of the mess curriculum. they would send you to vibrate. i assume you guys are working on a problem.

and that doesn't happen anymore. that was in wichita kansas. there was veryer touching moment. hecko figure out what the this computer thing was. reusing logo program it.

they're basically not doing any of that. when you feel the responsibility is the you have to make sure your editorial job was being done the right way to have is that tie into the organization. in addition to covering the news cycle itself which is something we do across all of our programming and in digital products we to look at these places where there is unmet content needs. what is happening that is systemic. it was an observation there is a

really interesting study that comes out of the year: who makes the news. and looks at how women arbitrated media. as pacific news media. women are seen only 24% of the time in the news. a majority of that tends to be stereotypical trails. andctification stereotypical roles, victims. across the entire world. the u.s. is the third worst in terms of stereotypical trails behind the middle east and africa. we noted this.

say it isok at it and actually mass deception. we don't have an accurate picture of the worlds because women are not present. all know that women are at 50% of the population in doing all kinds of things.

women.s. we don't ignore you can actually grew a crazy. if you don't want to do it because it's the right thing to do it you might do it because you will experience growth. we often have numbers in the aggregate but we don't have the numbers down to an individual organizational level.

but on the inputs of who's creating it but what is being created. environments that can create incentives for others. i don't know if you're familiar with the bechtold test. she says she won't see a movie that two women are talking and the only subject they talk about it as a man she will see that movie. what ends up happening is 70% of the movies those the only way that women arbitrated in the movie. what is the bechtold test for news? it's not just about women it's about various groups that are not being reflected.

it's really about trying to create the goal is transparency. people are consuming your content they know what they're getting in the aggregate. there's a lot of opaque mess in the way that the news media is covered because it's always happening. had a create seals of approval to the people know that is what i meant to getting there from this particular source. how much a responsibility of you have for facilitating this learning in a fair way. increasingly people get their news from social media channels. they get it from a lot of their friends on facebook and things like that. the challenge with that is that the type of things that tend to get shared of the type of things

baitend up being more link you get completely random content. beginning at some selfies and diet ads. it's a challenging environment for news. do was to try to create an experience that was geared more around following your interests. you can have your friends involved. quantity is valued over quantity. we have editors and curators who are hand picking news. we have really high quality stories from the world's best sources package together. not just stories that of the best link bait. that we try to do across the

border that's a big toponsibility that we have high-quality well-balanced news. something that is truly informative rather than just the most popular. our audience by and large comes to clipboard to get a high-quality content. it is easy to find all the link bait stuff. this is the place where you go to dive deep on things like gun control or climate change or things that you love like mountain biking or sailing. anything in between. going to a place that is about the things you are passionate about.

does it have a place in the classroom? why was excited to be part of this discussion today is because clipboard to package the best stories. packaging and them together in a way that's easy to reach for people who live on their smartphones. read the stories. cool is that you can go a step further and integrate current events where not only the teacher but all of the students can contribute stories. about economics. great stories that the teacher has put in as well as the

students contributing here is a really great current events article. something happening in economics. the future of oil prices and they affect the economy. that type of packaging is truly fascinating. if you go to our site you can see all the different ways that teachers are using the site to educate themselves history teachers can share all the best content and links and stories that they have. as to get the kids on smartphones through these magazines that they can curate and read and follow. it has taken off tremendously. hundreds of thousands of people using it to reach kids when they're are on their smartphones. in the kind of environment they

are used to. alisa: public broadcasting provides curriculum and content video-based.le for with public radio, because our content tends to be a bit more adult it is really looking at high school and primarily in college. we find that our audio content is being used a lot of schools. we get a lot of solicitations for information of people were what should of this i understand about iran. the history of that region. having our audio

content and transcripts available through various systems that are in libraries around the country. we've looked at it in various forms. in public media we know that a lot of teachers are using our content in the university is relevant. it is based on what is happening in the news. understand the underlying economic forces. the underlying science behind climate change or how this

particular law into effect this group of people in this kind of way. it creates that no connection to immediacy that is often one of most powerful teaching tools. this election cycle is an obvious example of that. i imagine your newsrooms have been blowing up with discussions about that topic. can you talk about your perspective on that election. mike: now is incredibly important time to make sure we can bring perspective to what is being said in the election. such extremism right now. and polarization. the problem is that is the stuff to gets picked up and goes to the headlines. that gets propagated.

we really think it is important to create an environment that alice is that out. from the left and the right. you don't want to add more fuel to the crazy things that are being said in the election. people want to get to the truth. alyssa: what are the things we have focused on his facts. trying to get at an underlying

powerful story and relating it to facts. there's a lot in our discourse right now that is not actually based on the truth. we are trying not to be covering what everyone else is covering. at first andk second generation americans and their experiences. one of the facts about economic development? what is the millennial perspective.

it is one of the most economically challenged generations maybe ever. what does that mean? the of decisions that are made. why are they attracted in one form or another to certain candidates. millennials being very interested in what happens in the world. that seems so boring compared to new images of donald trump's wife. had he resists the candy that is that is one place your social feed. and then there is coverage about the coverage.

mike: yes to know why people come to your site. they, because they know they're going to get the real story. there are plenty of people who want that. give in theou don't catering to theay durin clinton made. you have to monetize and sustain them. high-quality premium advertising. full-page ads from rolex or breitling or gucci. things that are aspirational. they're much more valuable. we have a lot fewer advertisers. it is more about class than mass. that is up being a lot more sustainable environment for

high-quality content for us. continuing to keep the subsidized. >> you tell me it is like candy in the candy store and its possible ultimately to keep the kids from going forward. have you keep from going for that? you have to try to be profitable. have you resist that temptation? audience dues an to keep the media from doing that? alyssa: using curated platforms in your own experience is super important. multiplertant to have sources and multiple perspectives. that through your

social media feeds you're not always getting that. understand what you are not seeing in your social media for. i use facebook and twitter myself. there's a certain point where you have to say to yourself and i actually seeing the full picture here. this interesting book about the bubble. how we have to take personal responsibility for the mix of content that we create. we try to be interesting and engaging. without trying to be broccoli. broccoli with cheddar cheese on top. we're trying to fight that fight. ,ou can be interesting interested in kim kardashian and you call so be interested in how you are going to get a great job and support your family. you can be in those two worlds

at the same time. that's what we found is people consumer content and we grow thetally as well as growing public radio audience. >> thank you both for joining us. [applause] >> the u.s. house will return to work after its july 4 break. you wrote that speaker ryan plans a house vote on gun provisions. what are the main details on

billy house: the speaker's office just released the details. it is wrapped up in the lingo of counterterrorism. it includes a provision to prevent terrorists from buying guns. it is much like the bill in the senate from senator cornyn. the democrats in the house and the senate. >> as you said it is pretty close to what senator cornyn offered but the republicans blocked that. billy: if you were a house democrat on the conference call you were saying that it was because you're letting the national rifle association write your legislation for you.

and they want to limit whatever gun aspects for that bill is much as possible. whether that's true or not, who knows. house republicans are feeling pressure to do something with guns in it. perhaps not to do so much that it might upset the nra. house minority leader nancy pelosi released a statement. saying they will continue to push for a meaningful gun bill that will save lives and protect us from terrorism. with expanded background checks and meaningful no-fly no-buy legislation.

billy: the same things that democrats were asking for last week. want background checks for gun sales and a ban on gun sales to people on no-fly list. it has been stepped up on the heels of the orlando shooting were 49 people were killed. one of the ringleaders and organizers was john lewis of georgia. from connecticut says he and lewis had written the speaker and plan to have a meeting with him. if there amendments can be put on this republican bill and other dilatory tactics may be considered. i'm not so certain that they will do another set in.

what kind of march that might be whether a jericho-like circling of the capital or something else, that is what they're talking about. everything seems to hinge more on this meeting they hope to have with the speaker and what comes out of that. if anything happens to get into that republican bill. >> house speaker paul ryan called it a stunt. he said the republican leadership was looking at all their options, talking to the parliamentarian. what sort of rules exactly were broken by the democrats during the sitting? billy: the rules about you can't

take photos or videos. all that stuff that happened in didn't really occur until late in the morning. most of that happened when the house wasn't technically in session. the speaker said he is looking into what can't be done. i'm not quite sure what can be done other than forcing them off the floor. arresting them perhaps. the notion of arresting a civil rights icon like john lewis on tv in front of millions of americans is something they really don't want to have ingrained in people's memory going into the november elections.

republicans have advised him whatever we do let's not handcuff these people. >> billy house is congressional correspondent for bloomberg news. you can follow him on twitter and read his reporting at bloomberg.com. thank you. tonight on the communicators. kathy grillo of verizon. talking about net neutrality. joined by wall street journal technology reporter john mckinnon. there are some issues with that.

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