has is next note of the fbi ended its investigation into her use of a private e-mail server. and later, a look at donald trump's business dealings with >> african-americans, latinos, in the pre-smartphone age, i people were not the fact that there is evidence of racial bias in our criminal justice system. ♪ host: good morning. the president making those comments yesterday in warsaw while wrapping up a two day nato summit.

president obama is in spain today, returning to washington dc one day earlier than scheduled. mr. obama will go to dallas, texas, a city that remains in urning. a busy week for lawmakers before their party conventions. republicans meeting in cleveland , democrats later this month in philadelphia. we begin with the president's comments on a racial biased in america's criminal justice system. do you agree or disagree? our phone lines are divided as follows. for democrats, (202) 748-8000. republican, (202) 748-8001. ts, (202)enden 748-8002. we have added a phone line for minorities, african-americans and latinos. (202) 748-8003. ord us a tweet at c-span wj

join us on facebook at facebook.com/c-span. let's take a look at the front page of "the washington post." a weekend editorial from the dallas morning news titled, this city, our city. it has been tested before and now we face a new test, writes the editorial board of the dallas morning news. cuttingn 50 years ago, down our nation's president leaving shadows that lingered for generations. we rebounded, but slowly. we eventually remade our city into one that is all that unrecognizable to anyone alive in 1963. thursday night, another kind of lightning flashed across our horizon in plunged our city into a new kind of grief and brought fear back into the place we call home. this slaying of five police officers and the shooting of seven others plus two civilians

has left this city stunned. the dallas morning news posting these questions, why us, why this city, why these officers and why now. the president talking about the division along racial lines in america saying it is not quite so bad as it has been in the past. here's more from his remarks yesterday at the conclusion of the nato summit in poland. [video clip] obama: i firmly believe that america is not as divided as summit suggested. -- as some have suggested. americans of all races and backgrounds are rightly outraged by the attacks on police, whether in dallas, or anyplace else. .hat includes protesters it includes family members who about policencerns conduct.

they have said this is unacceptable. there is no division there. and americans of all races and backgrounds are also rightly saddened and angered about the deaths of alton sterling and the land of castile and the large -- for lando castile the story is available online and usa today.com. a painful week of police and protesters trying to say that america is united, to convey a message of solace and unity in the wake of an extraordinary week that rubbed raw issues of police safety and racial , saying he believes america will come together to find common ground. zone, a at violence in

america past inner cities. lucia is joining us on our line for democrats. welcome to the program. caller: good morning. this is the first time i ever called. host: we are glad to hear from you. caller: glad to hear from you all. i watch you all every day you come on at 7:00. i am saying i do not think it is right what happened to those police. god said that shalt not kill. itrayed and i cried about because they are innocent police. i figured nobody should take their life away from loved ones. i don't think it is right. it is wrong. i ask us to love one another as he loves us. we needs to do what the lord asks us to do, not kill, do

not hate. .hat comes from praying made --a sin that god killing those people, it is wrong and i do not like it. the call.k you for if you're african-american or latino we what the hear from you as well. that number is (202) 748-8003. of racial the subject bias in america' own justice system is available online at washington post.com. jeffrey gal writing researchers have discovered a new racial biased in the criminal justice system. he says for a nation as diverse as the u.s. the judiciary is quite male and white. in theory this should not matter. judges are supposed to be impartial, as boring umpires in the famous words of john roberts. in practice of court, it is messier. details available online at washington post.com. rent,good morning --

republican line, good morning. caller: i appreciate you taking my call. barack hussein obama has done racialing to create disturbance in this country. he does nothing about black on black killing in chicago only because barack hussein obama has flooded the united states with in --l in -- with harrell heroin, distributed throughout the united states. this man is a menace to the united states. he's over there in europe preaching the same thing, as we speak. i'm glad there is only four months left. this guy should put in prison. host: put in prison because --?

brent? caller: i'd like to reiterate that obama is a radical muslim arab. host: he's not muslim and is not arab but thank you for joining in on the conversation. we want hear from all of you. another comment from one of our viewers saying there is racial bias and biases of all types in all human endeavors. this is from carol who says the bias is against those who commit the crimes. cops go to where crimes are committed. let's go next to bob in illinois. caller: good morning. know, the president said a wonderful talk about the country is not as divided as it seems to be. i talked to mexicans, i talked to white folks, i talked to

asians, i want this president understand, there are millions of people that love him and don't worry about the hatemongers that come on talk shows, rush limbaugh's and hannity's. there are millions that love and respect you. just hang in there. we love you. set the right tone. these hundreds of thousands of people from dying in afghanistan. i don't hear about people getting heads cut off and people getting murdered, americans. he's made sure that if he goes -- who was not, ted cruz said he would make the sand red. make sure his nephews and nieces go there and his cousins to make

the sand red. , want toese hotheaded hate iran treaty. make sure your sons -- make sure your nephews bomb iraq. while you are talking this tough talk. t parties, make sure your kids go to war. thank you, c-span. host: this is from edward who says racial bias permeates throughout every institution in our nation. this is the story, front page of the new york times. america grieves, tents and weary. se and wary. in the aftermath of the shootings thursday evening, makeshift memorials and emotions that are running through this city in texas. we will hear from gilbert in

tulsa, oklahoma. good morning. caller: good morning. so many things, i hardly know where to start. first and foremost, in this country the only group that i know that was brought here in chains on a ship called jesus i .ight add was from the dutch 1619. the spaniards had blacks coming with them as a full person honored. blacks in their army with them. in america it has always been a division. the problem as i see it goes all the way back to the fugitive slave act. when you see a black person out of the plantation, off of the plantation, what you do is ask him or her for their identification. this is what is still going on.

thanks to franklin pierce, the bush family's great-grandfather. here's the point, there is no other group that has been victimized like black folks. we have fought in every war of liberation, expecting in return to be liberated and it has always failed. military in, our world war i, white folks said they did not want black folks to fight with them but the french said will take them and they honored them at the end of the war. second world war, there were tons -- there was tons of racism. race riots in vietnam, not against the vietnamese, but white folks against black folks. i can't get rid of my color. the concentration camps in europe, the continental u.s. was our concentration camp.

police, not least, the look where we are getting them from. from the fringes of white society. donald trump would never have a child who says he wants to be a policeman or join the military. mitt romney had five sons and not one was in a uniform of any kind. what i'm saying is, what else can we do? host: if you're just tuning in or listening on c-span radio, we are asking about the shootings that took place in dallas. earlier in the week outside minneapolis and baton rouge. the president saying there has been a racial bias in america's criminal justice system, all part of the debate this past week leading into the conventions that will take place later this month. phone lines are open at (202) 748-8000 for democrats and (202) 748-8001 for republicans. if you're african-american or latino, the number to call is (202) 748-8003.

a couple of tweaks to share with you from edward who says cops go to where the crimes are committed #black lives matter. to the earlier caller from indiana, the indiana caller is racist. thank you c-span for correcting them. richard from bellmore, new york. republican line reluctant to the program. -- republican line, welcome to the program. one-day i went into a local convenience store for a coffee and there was a policeman there getting his own coffee. he virtually ignored me. a few minutes later, a black guy walks in and all of a sudden you could tell the policeman was on high alert haiya simply because this black guy was there. the policeman was black. black, it ise on

police on black. if the guy is committing the crimes, they should be arrested. and profile. thank you. lawrencet week go to joining us on the line for african-americans and latinos romp maryland. good morning -- from maryland, good morning. unfortunately say racial profiling is a part of america's ena. -- bna. we are founded on the subjugation of african american people. we brought people here to build a country. one of the things i want to say, i am very happy that the smithsonian museum of african american history is being constructed and it sits right across from the washington monument. americans need to understand the history of this country as it relates to the african-american

experience. black americans have always been the element in the road. black americans have always been the center of attention and until the united states wrestles with its history, its original sin, racism. unfortunately america was evolving into scientific racism. it deals with the legacy of slavery, this country will never be what it should be. host: lawrence, thank you for the call. cedric richmond represents baton rouge, louisiana and he spoke this past week about the killings of the african-american in his community and race relations in america. [video clip] >> for young african-american kids and young african american males -- i will tell you how

keim and a couple of others yesterday, we had a press conference to reiterate that if we were not wearing suits people would lump us into the category of young black thugs based on how we dress. it's unfair to do that to the black lives matter that has been positive, created and sparked a , where presidential candidates had to a dress issue of whether black lives matter. the fact that their number one goal is that law enforcement not kill unarmed black people should be low hanging fruit. the ultimate goal is economic opportunity so every young black boy and girl can reach their dreams. about blaming president obama, that is absolute nonsense from people who can't get over the fact that michelle obama, president obama, and his children, wake up every day in the white house. host: comments of commerce and cedric richmond here in washington dc. he represents and rouge,

louisiana. on our facebook page, you can join in on the conversation. this is from rocky who says racial bias is highly supported by the media adding network news is the reason racism is so popular. robert says, yes but goes further. there is a divide in america where no one feels equal with those in power or serving those in power. it feels like the average citizen is subject to the law where those who work for it are above it. from jim saying, looking forward to 2017 because president obama has done more harm in race relations than any other president in my lifetime. if police officers kill a black man he is quick to condemn the officer but when someone kills a police officer we have to wait for the facts. anthony is joining us. good morning. we will try one more time for

anthony and hyattsville. let's go to sharon joining us from columbus, ohio. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. thank you for c-span. i wanted to point out the first is -- from indiana anderson, indiana is the northern capital the ku klux klan. i'm from michigan originally. in 1855, the state of michigan legislature passed a law that fromde any peace officers in any way giving any aid or assistance to slavers coming back south of the nation this in line -- south of the mason-dixon line. one more thing, if you ever read henry epson, the danish playwright, i think it is in an enemy of the state, this one life,ter i hated all my

hated because i could not love. that is the trouble with some of these people. is your name steve? host: yes it is. caller: you're one of my favorites. calls again for taking my because there is so much hatred in this country today. heckountry is going to in a wastebasket. thanks again, have a wonderful day. host: thank you, from columbus, ohio. one of our viewers saying, police have killed almost 560 people this year, just about all of which were not captured on video. this from another viewer saying, remind me, is michele finally proud of america? a reference to first lady michelle obama. this saying black lives matter

should behind on the fbi terrorist list. we get to more of your calls and comments. the nra reacting to the issue of guns in america, violence in inner cities especially like chicago. here is a portion of a new web video released the nra. [video clip] >> illinois democrats from the u.s. house of representatives got together for . national day of action chicago, home of the strictest gun-control laws and in 2015 home of 468 homicides. that is nearly in orlando terror attack every month in the city. where in chicago do you think the vast majority of these homicides happen? it is not chicago federal plaza, home to a 53 foot full mingo sculpture and seasonal farmers anti-gun stupidity they called a national day of action. these homicides happen every single day in the worst parts of chicago where the political

opportunist posturing for tv cameras refused to prosecute the gun laws already on the books against the violent felons doing the killing. they follow the same routine every time a shooting happens where homicide is not accepted as a part of daily life. the anti-gun goof troop rises to action using violence from the tod to pass their gun death -- believing americas is a war zone. let's break it down, roughly 32,000 gun deaths in america per year. 19,200 of those are suicides of a 960 or accidental deaths. that leaves roughly 11,000 actual homicides. 99% of which are not mass shootings. every cop on the street knows who is doing the killing, it is the gang members and felons these politicians refuse to throw in prison. all of these anti-gun politicians have to offer is gun control and when that does not work more gun control. host: the whole video is available online at nra.org from

the national rifle association. the president did address the issue of guns yesterday. white house reporter carol lee has the story online with this headline, the president saying police have a hard time in community's with lots of guns. the president saying the availability of guns in the u.s. is fueling tensions between police officers and the communities they serve, even suggesting it contributed to the fatal shooting of an african-american man last week by law enforcement officials during a traffic stop in minnesota. whether or not you agree or -- he also made remarkse to that in his in warsaw, poland available on our website at c-span.org. your take on all of this, good morning. i was going to mention the caller a few calls ago who mentioned walking into a convenience store and there was

a black officer on high alert when the young black man walked in. extremelythat was accurate because of the fact that police officers, regardless of color, are trained to profile young black men. this gentleman could have been the one who's going to go in and rob the convenience store and he was white. it also could have been because of the neighborhood that he was in that this young black man walked into a convenience store. there seems to be a problem with profiling. all crime is not committed by just black people. by sheer number, more crime is committed by white people in this country because of population numbers. also, if the nra would stop selling guns in the black communities, perhaps we would have less gang bangers shooting everybody. host: thanks for the call from south carolina.

black lives matter finding progress has been hindered by the sniper in dallas, the headline from the new york times this morning in the national edition. this story points out back in texas several state officials including the lieutenant governor lashing out at the group black lives matter directly linking its tone and tactics to the killings. the lieutenant governor acknowledged the demonstration had been peaceful until the gunman struck but he accused the movement of creating the conditions for what happened. i do blame former black lives matter protests. this has to stop, saying they added to the police officers, these are real people. state rep resented bills elder was blood in his assessment of the groups influence on the 25-year-old gunman. clearly the rhetoric of black lives matter encourage the sniper who shot dallas police officers. edwin has this point of view saying that while there is a

bias in our criminal justice system come of the prejudice in america has come forward since the election of our president. so much hate. let's go to joy, joining us from asheville, north carolina. caller: i would like to tell something. can you hear me? host: we sure can. caller: my daddy told me something. i went to school in the late 1940's and 1950's. one day he took us to school and there were black children on their bus because the schools were segregated. i said, why don't the go to school with us, it would be closer. he said, i don't know, things will change one day. everybody, no matter what their race is, we all need the same organs inside our body to function. when you read the bible, the bible says when god looks down at man, he looks at the heart. he never looks at the color, the

personality, he looks at the character and the person. i think everybody should remember that. there is racism, both ways. white people have been sort of forced into feeling guilty because we are white. we are all the products of our parents. were going to be borne the color they are. everybody is equal and i do not think obama is a good person. he's a divider. he always talks about he was black and grew up -- it was his white side of the family that took care of him but he hardly ever mentions that. he's not all black, he's not all right, he's biracial. go can't he stands up for? it does not matter if you are green with purple polkadots, if you are a human being, you're

all afforded the same rights. every shooting is not right, every shooting is not wrong among the police but it should be investigated before some riot starts. host: how to we get beyond this deep racial divide regardless of whose president? caller: for one thing, everybody's going to have to look at their own heart and their own life. so many biracial people in this country, what side are they going to take? the side that preaches hate or the side that keeps the mouth shut? host: does that even matter if your biracial? regardless of whether you are white black or biracial or hispanic? caller: no, it does not matter. the race does not matter. if black people hate white people, are they going to hate their biracial children? it's all one human race.

.ust do what is right yourself sometimes you have to defend yourself. sometimes you have to speak up against what's wrong and you have to defend. everybody -- if somebody stole something from him onto, i had a smart daddy. somebody stole something from him one time and he said, all i can say is every time that person looks in the mirror he is looking at a thief. i was a child and i thought is there someone hiding on the mirror looking. i realized he was referring to your own reflection. if there were more people like my daddy they would be a lot less trouble. host: joy from asheville, north carolina. more tweets from north of boston. preferred gun-control despite unfettered gun access giving

this from one of our viewers progressives on full display. let's go to patricia from houston, texas. caller: good morning. i wanted to comment on you asked if the criminal justice system was bias. well, i really do think so because i had an experience one time. i had a friend and i had my cousin was killed back in the 70s. ong story short she was dating a white man and dating a black man in a small town in louisiana. the young man that she was dating he didn't kill her. everybody knew that. ut they blamed him because the police in that small town wanted to put it on him because

he was dating a white man. and they didn't -- they gave him a trial they gave him life in prison without parole. he is still in prison. another thing about president obama. ever since he's been in office it's been one thing after another with the republicans have blamed this man for everything in the world. everything that goes wrong it's his fault. and if you listen to fox news and these talk radio shows they teach nothing but hate. hate. and i have called in to fox news couldn't get anybody and left messages and i said if there's a race riot and it's going to be, it's going to be your fault. they never would answer me. all they preach is hate against obama. what is he supposed to do? he can't do anything right for

them. and they know trayvon martin all these young black men they blame obama. he's not supposed to say anything. he is the the president of the united states. if he is not supposed to say anything who is supposed to say anything? host: from city journal. the attorney general loretta lynch commenting this past friday. here is part of what she had to say. >> after the events of this week americans across our country are feeling a sense of helplessness of uncertainty and of fear. these feelings are understandable and they are justified. but the answer must not be violence. the answer is never violence.

rather, the answer our answer ll our answers must be action. calm, peaceful, collaborative and determined action. we must continue working to build trust between communities and law enforcement. we must continue working to guarantee every person in this country equal justice under the law. and we must take a hard look at the ease with which wrong doers can get their hands on deadly weapons and the frequency with which they use them. and we must reflect on the kind of country that we want to build and the kind of society that we are choosing to pass on to our children. above all we must reject the easy impulses of bitterness and rankor and embrace the difficult work with the important work, the vital work of finding a path forward together. above everything, we must remind ourselves that we are all americans and that as americans we share not just the

common land but a common life, not just common goals but a common heart and a soul. and those we have lost this week have come from different backgrounds different neighborhoods but today they're mourned by officers by residents by family and friends by men and women and children who love them. who needed them and who will miss them always. they are mourned by all of us. host: with reference to the piece on crime rate one of our iewers saying crime rate not bigotry. bingo! and from the "washington post." from columbus, ohio. caller: people want to blame

obama or black lives matter. but the problem is that the people in the united states do not know their history. if they really knew the history of this country they would know that black people have been mistreated and hated from the day that they were brought over here in chains. i just wish that more people would know the history. and we call ourselves a christian nation but this is not a christian nation. it is a nation that has some christians in it. and i would just like for people to know that god not only judges individuals. he judges nations. and this nation is one that is going to have to answer for everything that it has done and has not rectified, has not recognized and apologized for. and that was what was done to the native americans and the japanese. what was done to african americans. we have tried to sweep it up under the rug. this country has a closet full

of skeletons that they are trying to continue to push the door closed on when they're trying to sneak out because god himself wants us to recognize what has been done. rectify it apologize and act accordingly as far as calling ur's a christian and jude ao nation. host: the president was in poland for the summit. the fifth of his presidency. the final one before he leaves office in january of next year. the president tells nato that europe can count on the united states and there's a photograph with european leaders including outgoing british prime minister david cam ran who will be replaced later this year in the post brexit vote. and merkel the chancellor of germany. he is back in washington tonight cutting his trip one day short. was supposed to be in

seville tomorrow but returning so he can travel to dallas, texas. >> i want to address your problem. your question today. first of all, texas is one of he last states to outlaw slavery. on the criminal justice side we have for-profit prisons and guess who the majority of the police people are there. they're not white. they're black and brown. number two, chief of police of dallas, texas two months ago they were railing against him to fire him to get rid of him because he was firing some of the people who did not deserve to be in the police department. umber three, craig watkins was

the first black district attorney in the state of texas. they kept on the police he wouldn't let them bring in all these little frivolous cases against people, threw them out. so guess who railed up to get this man out of office. the police department. and who did they replace him with? a lady who has almost been in office for a year who hasn't served who has been in every rehab center across the nation. number four, voters here in texas when there's a local election, you can't find them. they don't come and vote. very few blacks or browns come and vote. it starts with our elections. city and local. can you get them to a school board meeting?

no. the school in dallas and even in de soto out of control. the other is the black lives movement. that's ok for young people. but when you go out take a registration card with you or for a person to vote. take somebody older who can't afford to get a ride to the polling place. they don't do that. it's ok to riot but guess what back it up with a vote. the other today we all are going to church and i've heard people talk about all their sermons and dadies and mamas and i'm not prejudice. if you're a christian you don't have to say i'm not prejudice because you will show it both black and white. we're going to be in segregated churches today. and we're all -- and what i

ss is a magazine and the publisher john h. johnson, the book he wrote. most blacks have never read it and i know generally whites will not read it but he talked about this moment and this day and time. he was the one that put emyit teal a 13-year-old his mother wants to get him out of chicago send him to mississippi where he was murdered. yes. america does have a lot of blood on its hands but we all are responsible for it. not just one race. and thank you and for letting me speak. i appreciate it. host: thank you. from texas.

house speaker paul ryan last friday on the house floor with this. >> this has been a long week for our country. it's been a long month for america. we have seen terrible, terrible senseless things. every member of this body, every republican and every mocrat wants to see less gun violence. every member of this body wants a world in which people feel safe regardless of the color of their skin.

that's not how people are feeling these days. sometimes we disagree on how to get there. sometimes we disagree passionately on how to get there. but in having this debate let's not lose sight of the values that unite us. let's not lose sight in our common humanity. the values that brought those protesters to the streets in dallas, the values that brought those protesters to the streets in washington last night, respect, decency, compassion, humanity. if we lose those fundamental things, what's left? we need to take a moment here for reflection, for thought, for prayer, for justice, for action, right now let's let justice be done and let's also let some healing occur, too. host: the comments of house

speaker paul ryan. we're asking you on our facebook page whether or not you think there is a racial bias in america's criminal justice system. you can weigh in with your omments as well. aller: good morning. our government should not be selling high powered rifles. when they first started the onstitution, [inaudible] what are the police dealing with? people out of control. and they have to do what they have to do. they don't want -- but the

government doesn't want to talk about stop selling those high powered rifles. the average person does not need that. host: one more comment from jesse. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a lot of feedback on this racist stuff that's going on all over america. this is one of the problems and one of the things. first, i give my hat to the police officers doing their job like they're supposed to. now, in every field and every job you have bad apples. i'm going to point out something here. a lot of people say they're waiting to come back home and that's from the police department. i understand what i'm saying, i don't blame them. but when your child goes out the parents are waiting on them

to come back home the same way they left. they get pulled over for a taillight the next thing you know you're getting a call saying they're dead. e when the police say they come into a neighborhood and say they can't give information they don't want to talk. when they know they have a bad apple within their department they need to weed him out instead of getting black balled. if one of the police officers reports something he becomes a problem for the police department. he won't be able to get a job anywhere. host: thank you. and thanks to all your calls and comments. we'll be back throughout the week here. you can continue by sharing your thoughts on our twitter page or join us on facebook. calling it the last debate between senator bernie sanders

and former secretary of state hillary clinton. joining us on the phone. thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. host: let's begin on one victory according to senator sanders. he held a conference call yesterday that he was pleased on the agreement on the health care plank. what happened? >> well, he and hillary clinton have been trying to hammer out some stuff in advance of not just the platform meeting but what we expect will be him endorsing her in new hampshire this week. so he got her to agree to the goal of a public option which is further than she went in 2008, further than this campaign. clinton had a pretty cautious campaign message. sanders is trying to get her to at least commit to more from -- with the knowledge that he is going to be in the senate

trying to lead the liberals to pass that if they have at least control of the senate in january if she's president. >> one of the most contentious debates focused on trade in your reporting which is available on line. a defeat for the sanders team on that front. explain what happened. > this was sort of foreordained because the obama administration, which still leads the democratic party until january, did not want the party to go on the record against tpp. it's a priority of the administration before it leaves office. it's something that sappeders said the white house should -- president obama personally, that he would fight. the white house urged him not to. it's him doing his because the sanders campaign went to florida with the goal of putting the party on record against tpp and bernie was against it, hillary came out

against it after calling it the gold standard. the party should reflect that because labor and everything else in the party most democrats. it didn't work because the way the platform committee works there was a majority or -- of clinton delegates on this committee. there's a smaller number of sanders people. the hillary and dnc people almost entirely held together against changing the language on tpp. labor unions hammered out language that said our democratic party demands this and this on trade deals. it demands fairness. opposes any deal that does not hit these qualifications. and the goal was almost trying to be a little bit clever in saying to anyone who read it closely, ok, tpp does look like it fits the qualifications.

they rejected the specific language. both times they said they had specific language saying and we oppose tpp and they didn't let that in. so in the room it was predictable but heated because you had a large number of sand ers supporters. and you had sanders activist as lot delegates at the philadelphia convention who were booing and saying shame and holding their thumbs down. so it was a flash point. and there were people who walked out over this. but it was predictable and i think the fight is really going to be when democrats confront either incoming clinton administration or a lame duck administration and try to stop tp pmp. they said there's not the support for it.

maybe we're not going to embarrass the administration but here's how much we oppose it. host: it was supposed to conclude at about 6:00. it did not wrap up until shortly before 1:00. does the platform matter? do presidents use party platform? >> typically it does not matter. the goal of sanders' campaign and his delegates was to make it matter. a lot of countries this sort of document does. in canada, the u.k. or australia the next government would pay attention to what's in the party platform. so but it was contentious because the clinton campaign decided to go along with this and treat it like a real document that would determine at least the goals of governing. it started late because clinton people were meeting with the sanders campaign trying to get

amendments that reflected what both of them wanted before they started debating. so they took it seriously. the obama administration was the one party not really represented here. we just had dnc members. treat crats decided to this like it mattered. their positions were more popular than the generic. supposing tpp as they pointed ut was very popular. a lot of the ideas sanders had ep in mind he came in as the most popular person running for president this year by a lot. their argument was all right maybe platforms are not what voters focus on every year. if the party gets on record for all these ideas we know voters like them and we know that we can contrast them with donald trump.

the thing about tpp one argument made by the sanders folks was donald trump is for the first time the republican nominee who is anti-free trade. there's a likelihood republicans run on that message for the first time in a generation. nd democrats would be weakened . the platform is seen as the angle for that. host: the union leader reportings you indcate that secretary clinton will be in new hampshire for an event on tuesday. while the campaign has not said publicly senator bernie sanders expected to join secretary clinton. although they're not saying so. why the secret? >> that happens a lot. i think there's a desire to have those camps maintain a little bit of dignity, a little bit of surprise.

there's a little aspect here of at sanders supporters remain reluctant about accepting clinton. you saw this last night. very late. there was an attempt by clinton supporters to add language and platform thanking sanders for a campaign well run but then mentioning that hillary clinton is the nominee. and there was a huge outcry from sanders supporters that this was unfair. sanders has built up a sense with his supporters and very loud on line pretty loud among his delegates that he has earned a vote on the convention floor and he's earned the right for super delegates to think about whether they should nominate him and not her. he's not said that but it's almost like trying to stop a freight train when it's going 00 miles per hour. they have to slow down carefully. i'm not being cynical here. i think both campaigns are

trying to be a bit ginger in how they approach this endorsement. there's a sense that they want to blunt republican messaging going thoot their convention, which is of course not next week or the week after but they're being careful because they know so many democrats are so invested that they don't want to -- this outcome to look like it's rigged. probably being more careful han they need to be. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> and spoiler alert because we do expect hillary clinton to be with senator sanders. tomorrow donald trump will be in virginia beach speaking about veterans issues. the rnc platform hearings and rules committee gets under week this -- under way this week.

we're going to turn our attention to the house races and donald trump coming up in a couple of minutes. the coauthor of the book hrc state secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton. she is following the campaign. following the washington jorl c-span's "newsmakers" program. our guest this week is the chair of the house ways and means committee. also the issue of trade and keeping companies in the u.s. from moving overseas. the debate going on republican republicans and the white house. here is a portion of that conversation. >> we want companies in america to not be forced to move overseas. there's common ground on that. how the white house is approaching i think is wrong. one the only solution is to fix the broken tax code. in their haste to build a wall

to keep companies leaving they built a wall that keeps foreign dollars and u.s. dollars from flowing back into our communities. the regulation is so complicated that in that meeting with treasury secretaries say -- for every answer there were five more questions that were raised. my worry is that they rush into this rule that has huge economic consequences at home. they miss the target and don't really solve it in fact make us less competitive which means you've missed the mark in every way. so our advice and urgency to them is slow down take more input get this right and we'll work with you in this area. we agree with the concept of incentives to keep companies here in america. they're rushing into this regulation and it's going to have long-term consequences. >> is there a possibility that

congress might weigh in with more than letters and possibly legislation? >> that's a real possibility. it depends on if treasury is listening. i got the sense they were a bit dismissive of the concerns raised in the meetings. they do seem open to some small changes. but the bigger concerns that were raised by members of congress in the senate from both parties didn't seem to be resonating with them. again, they kept reiterating we want to move swiftly. key word. on the regulations. we would rather they move correctly and accurately in this regulation. so if they rush we are putting every legislative option on the table here because it all comes down to jobs at the local level. host: this week our guest is the chair of the house ways and means committee congressman kevin brady of texas.

also on our website at c-span.org. we want to welcome back david wasserman the house editor for the cook political report. good sunday morning. you wrote a piece that began basically saying that a year ago it was unthinkable that republicans would be supporting donald trump. what a difference a year makes. guest: so true. republicans have 247 seats in the house to 188 for democrats. out of the 247 om about 76% are on record supporting him. but that's a far cry from mid february when there were zero. host: i want to share with our audience, looking at the makeup of this house and the next congress. you have right now in mid july 17 house seats held by republicanning that are true toss-ups. only three democratic seats that are true toss-ups. and those three are open seats. what does that tell you about the political landscape

guest: it tells us democrats have very little to do but go up in their seat chairs in the house. republicans hold their largest majority since 1928 and democrats are going to pick up seats in 2016. the question is how many. but not ow competitive much. there's a lot of safe seats compared to what we had in the mid 90s. and if you split the toss-ups that would net democrats 11 seats in the house. i think 13 seats is the number that republicans picked up in 2014. if democrats did better it would be a good night but they would need 30 to get back. if it's the first 17 or so seats that democrats are targeting on the republican side really good opportunity for democrats. but the next 1 or so that they would need to get to a majority would be hard. host: donald trump meeting with the house and senate republicans. he held a meeting and then

thursday with senate republicans among other things guest: this is not standardnois nominee, for a insulting the republican hierarchy and status quo and individual members of congress has served him well in the primaries. it's what allowed him to appeal to voters who are disgusted with politics as usual. it is running into some trouble when it comes to planning a convention in cleveland, getting republican members on board. we'll see if this helps or hurts him in a general election. host: i will get your reaction .o greg walden he spoke at a christian science monitor breakfast this past friday. here's a portion of what he had to say about the upcoming house races. [video clip] >> i believe it is easier to tie a democrat hillary clinton to a republican, donald trump. donald trump is his own brand.

he has not shied away from that. hillary clinton is the quintessential democrat establishment candidate. given what has happened the last couple of weeks, all this view that a lot of us have had, americans have had, for the clintons there is a separate set of rules has come to the four. it is not like mrs. clinton is a brand-new candidate with no record. there is an enormous record, not only -- and a lot of unanswered questions including the foundation. whatever the foundation piece was in canada that received foreign money perhaps and transfers down to a mothership here. who got what appointments? you see today, the day after the justice department closes its investigation, the state department reopens theirs on mrs. clinton and staff. there is a lot there.

americans have a lot of questions. she has a long record. it's going to be held responsible. , you mayid wasserman not like donald trump but hillary would be worse. guest: that is what republicans are saying now. chairman walden argued donald trump as the nominee would put a lot of republican seats in jeopardy and that warning went unheeded by republican voters in the primaries. now democrats are singing a different tune. a lot of democrats privately admit donald trump is not necessarily the drag for republicans they expect that he would be. a number of democratic -- they take it would've been easier to tie republican incumbent to ted cruz and drag down the ticket because ted cruz is a politician. he has a voting record. host: david wasserman who probably knows more about house races and house geography than anyone else is joining us for the next half hour.

he is the house senator for the political report. give us a call at (202) 748-8000 for democrats and (202) 748-8001 for republicans as we talk about the house races and the impact donald trump may or may not have on house republicans. the democratic congressional committee taking aim at donald trump and the republicans. [video clip] >> how would it feel to find out that your child was the school bully? would you feel better to find out that you were -- that they were only the bully's sidekick. if donald trump runs the campaign pushing ideas that threaten our country security, republicans in congress are just standing by him. shouldn't they really be standing up to the bully? the d.c. cc is responsible for the content of this advertisement. host: either in statements or in

ads, how much money do each of these organizations have moving ahead? guest: both sides are likely to spend upwards of $100 million across districts. their targets are going to only be about 30 seats, maybe 35 out of 435. a narrow slice of voters are being targeted with that money. a lot of people are wondering, why would paul ryan endorse donald trump. why would john mccain endorsed donald trump after trump has taken aim at them. the answer really lies in electoral incentives. when we did analysis this week of the percentage of house republicans on record supporting their party's nominee we found 76% overall are on record. historically low number. dashinglican seats, state republican seats, 80% on record. -- what districts, 86

comes to paul ryan, there is a powerful incentive at work. even as he has cited the statements donald trump has made as textbook racism you have to understand not only would he lose his job if he did not endorse donald trump he has to preside over the republican convention in the next couple of weeks. he also has a primary election in wisconsin's first district. i think that explains why you are seeing some party leaders whose profiles are an ethanol to donald trump get behind him. host: i was in scott rigell from virginia passed second congressional district. robert dole from illinois 10th district. what do they share in common? guest: they are speaking out against donald trump. a few of the holdouts in the never trump camp of house republicans. in rituals case, he is a retiring member from virginia

beach. he and several others including richard hanna from upstate new york have gone on record calling trump a con man. someone who fooled the party into nominating him. in illinois posts 10th district, robert dole is running for reelection in the most democratic seat still held by a republican house -- republican in the house. thing any words of support for donald trump would be a political loser in that district , even though he has distanced himself from trump i think he is still no better than a 50-50 shot at reelection in the district given the propensity of voters there on the north shore of chicago to vote against a republican nominee this year. host: covers and read who represents the southern tier of western new york has been a strong supporter of donald trump. guest: he is one of the few republicans in a tough race. the earliest republican in what

we would consider a swing district to endorse donald trump . he did so before donald trump clenched the nomination. what's going on in that seat is unique. a collection of economically struggling counties along the state's southern tier. this is a place where hillary clinton when she was first campaigning for senate in 2000 went on a listening tour and promised things would change. that region has not seen a lot of economic uplift. i think donald trump's message may resonate fairly well compared to other suburban seats host:. our guest, david wasserman, house senator for the cook political report. marcia, joining us from chicago, our line for democrats. caller: i'm in chicago. i live on the north side. i have lived in this condominium building for 40 years. never did i think i would be voting republican but i have had

it. i've had it with the democrats. skyhigh. have gone everything is going wrong. we're going to have to vote for a lot of republicans. it's coming. i talked to a lot of people in my area. they are feeling the same. hillary clinton is not the person right now. she's got too many secrets going on. we don't know what she's thinking. she's saying everything she has to say, get elected. we know she's not going to do it . none of the stuff is going to get done. bernie sanders, i'm really upset about him because now he's going to clinton. he cannot get into her. he cannot do that. host: who is representative, marcia? ski -- jancago

schakowsky. host: we'll get a response. guest: certainly in illinois, jan schakowsky -- what happened district it is question of what happens in the senate race. senator kirk, who has refused to endorse donald trump, republican , in probably the worst shape of any republican incumbent senator. the caller's boat does matter in that senate race. does matter in the senate race. this on to give billy bias -- a lot of us -- this unthinkably bias. democrats who think of voting for donald trump in the general. there are a few who never really identified as a liberal activist behind bernie sanders. they were more of sanders supporter because of his stances on trade, railing against the

establishment in washington. there are a few who might be tended to go the other way. host: adam davidson is writing about trade and the impact of donald trump's rhetoric. you can read it in the new york times sunday magazine as we listen to laura from troy, michigan, republican line. caller: good morning. republican until we can get to change our party. that in today's day and age someone of donald trump's mentality or whatever be able to get as far as he has in the republican party. must be really desperate. -- my observation is, i am a senior citizen, i have been interested in politics ever since i have been 12 years old.

never missed a vote in anything. i really do not like the way hillary is vilified. my mother used to say, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can catch up to it. the minute i watch tv i think, she is terrible, so many people dislike her. in my observations of mrs. clinton, i do not find her distasteful at all. compared to donald trump, the ranting and raving that i saw the other night, i believe he was in cincinnati, it was like a crazy man let out of somewhere. he must have talked about 75 topics. that is certainly no one i would want to represent my country in these trying times. guest: who do you plan to vote for a the congressional level?

host: i was going to ask because she is a republican voting for a democrat and the earlier caller was a democrat voting for a republican. what is the tell you about the state of american politics? guest: the lines are scrambled. this is an election in which you are seeing a lot of elite republicans have second thoughts about voting for donald trump. some downscale democrats, some who are struggling economically, particularly white working-class democrats might have second thoughts about voting for hillary clinton. the question in this congressional district, which are believed the 11th of michigan come you have a suburban republican resenting that district. democrats consider that -- representing that district. democrats consider that one of their reach districts. it might be difficult because a lot of the republicans who might cross over at the top of the ticket might figure their representative is ok and has not been tainted by trump. host: colorado's sixth district, why is he vulnerable? guest: classic suburban swing seat outside denver.

aurora, colorado redistricted after 2010 to be more democratic. a judicial redistricting. mike coffman is a republican member who is a veteran. he tried to frame his races as a military veteran running against democratic political insiders as a way of defusing the partisan tinge of that electorate. a very tough opponent this time. a state senator named morgan andoll who is a woman really of the district unlike past democrats coming from denver. this is going to be a key race for both sides. one of the races democrats need to put in their column if they are going to pick up at least a dozen seats. host: so much can change between .ow and november 8 one of the chances of the democrats regaining control of the house versus the republicans keeping it? guest: democratic chances are

pretty slim. somewhere between 15% and 25% today. that is a lot lower than democratic chances of reach taking control of the senate. couple of reasons why democrats are not in as great a position. a lot of the democrats -- a lot of the demographic shifts benefiting democrats at the residential and senate level do not benefit house of a craft because they take place in districts across already hold. line in madison, wisconsin very helpful the democrats. that part of the state is getting much more liberal and producing bigger democratic margins. that will help a candidate like russ feingold for senate in wisconsin beat ron johnson, incoming republican senator. that district is held by democrats in the house. we see fewer of those changes, fewer diversification's

benefiting democrats broadly when it comes to the electoral college in some of the state ride -- statewide races. the other factor at work really limiting them a craft is that the filing deadline passed in 81% of districts by early may when donald trump clinched the nomination. for democratic strategists who want to recruit candidates to get into races and say the water is warm they did not really have a window of time to do so. by the time everyone realized the montreux is actually going to be the republican nominee for president it was too late in a lot of districts. host: robert costa on the washington post with renewed speculation on michael flynn. seriouslymp considering him as his running mate. he had a falling out with the president of the left of the administration back in 2014 as an attired -- as a retired military general.

anything?impact guest: it would not surprise many of us that donald trump would look to an outsider to add to the ticket. i have been curious for weeks while general flynn has not been a name that appeared on betting markets for vp speculation whereas other names like nikki haley or marco rubio still do. virginia. in polaski, good morning. caller: good morning to both of you gentlemen hope you're having a good morning. a slightly complicated question. you see the democratic party setting up their rules, looking at hillary clinton and some of the problems they're having with working two candidates into their election. you look at the republican party and they are having trouble with

mr. trump as far as their candidate. i was also listening earlier to c-span this morning, talking about comments made by president obama, referring to the european union with the brexit going on overseas. the european union would actually have trouble with their immigration and they're doing business. .'m sure you heard earlier nott of people in america finding any satisfaction at all with either party. what we have to choose from. republicanif you're you're republican, if you're a

democrat, your democrat. you could draw a lot of those people from either party and go on an independent. from is not much to choose there. host: we'll get a chance for our guest, david wasserman, to respond. guest: there is a lot there. i think the caller hit on a point that a lot of americans are dissatisfied the choices for president. a lot of people are asking what that means for turnout. it does that mean a number of voters will stay home, number will support gary johnson or jeff stein? anger ands that dislike of the other side can often be just as wrong a motivator, if not stronger, then the like for your own party or your own candidate. i don't think we will see a big decline in turnout because stakes will be so high. the caller mentioned the european union and a lot of

parallels being drawn between the british vote to exit and american politics and presidential races this year. if there is one pattern that has worried democrats, it is where the vote to leave were strongest in britain. it tended to be in a lot of old labour strongholds, particularly northern england where the labour party was expecting higher vote shares for remain. traditionally labor areas. democrats and some parts of the country are worried will the bottom dropout for us in places where we have been on the decline like western pennsylvania, southeastern ohio. host: in your piece for the cook political report, i want to go back to colorado past six district. you highlighted at that his emblem attic of where house republicans are. [video clip] >> i'm mike coffman and i approve this message.

>> i'm jackie martinez. >> i've been in the military for 28 years. >> i first met mike on a fund-raising event to help the hungry in ethiopia. >> bike is a very nice guy. -- mike is a very nice guy. mike is a great friend. >> mike is very involved in the korean community. >> mike is a real leader on immigration reform. >> mike has been supportive of my small business. who knows if we would ever get a hospital without mike? >> mike is not like other republicans. >> i think he is better. >> nobody works harder than mike. >> mike is one of us. us.ike coffman is one of david wasserman, republicans named mentioned only

once. guest: he's not like other republicans, not like other politicians. the key lines and that at. if there are two types of -- districts with high shares of latinos are asian-americans who did not turn out at high rates in 2012 but have potential for a big upswing in 2014 -- 2016. district that are well educated. district holds those distinctions. republicans know they need to cast mike coffman is a different type of republican, someone who's a separate brand from his party's nominee if he wants to win reelection. host: anthony joining us from north was vegas -- north las vegas. thanks for phoning in, anthony. caller: great.

this will be one of the most interesting elections i have seen in my lifetime. and i'mfelong democrat one of the bernie sanders voters. this election is the weirdest election i've ever seen. the democrats don't want to put in the party platform to stop the tpp. this is a huge issue for me as a union member. i watched our jobs go overseas, i worked in our steel mills. i'm 47 years old and i'm sick of seeing our jobs shipped overseas. this is a huge issue for union members and the democrat party is starting to become a party of special interests. i get infuriated. donald trump's message, and i'm a black man and i am not scared to vote for donald trump.

donald trump's message is very appealing in many ways. i've never voted for republican but i really don't know what to do this time. if the democrat party does not come back to the working man we are going to be leading in jokes. -- leaving in droves. we are ready to take our party , theand this is sickening democrat party becoming a party of special interests and it just infuriates me. host: david, was -- david wasserman, did you want to talk to him? guest: north las vegas, that's right. this is a problem for democrats across the country but particularly with working-class democrats, which the caller identifies. north las vegas is not the type of place you would assume would be a challenging place for democrats and hillary clinton.

she is not pulling their strongly as a lot of democrats would imagine. there is also an important congressional race for democrats north of las vegas in the fourth congressional district where hardy was one of the biggest flicks of the 14 republican wave. a latino state senator in rubin q and challenging him this year. my guess is he will win that race. it is one the democrats need. this is the profile of voter that gives democrats concern. host: we will go to maryland next. independent line, gary on the phone. caller: hello gentlemen, enjoy the show. looking at both of the candidates and i'm trying to weigh the difference between donald and hillary. donaldink if we go with we are asking for disaster.

i am not manipulated by donald and his camp. clinton, i voted for reagan. i am independent. i think hillary is the better choice. with her experience -- i don't get this thing where folks are talking about and inside person, hillary being inside with the corps of engineers of politics. the lady has been very successful in her career. she's a workaholic. she has done some great things. .er husband is a brilliant mind i don't understand how anyone noting this election can differentiate the difference between donald and hillary clinton. are you kidding me? am independent and i can see

big river of a difference between the two of them. .'m from new england i know the tactics this man has done to those folks up there in jersey as well as new york. i don't understand why the media is not bringing these things up more on donald trump. whatever happens where we are being honest in this country when we see that there is something going wrong and we just hide it? what are we hiding donald trump for? this man has done some pretty bad things with his personal life and his business. his endeavors and his business tactics. his way of approaching people. -- where is he at? building a wall?

that is all this guy talks about. host: let me take his point and share with you what jackie collins writes along the lines of what kerry was saying from maryland. the piece is called "paul ryan's worst ally." years, mr. ryan for self-styled ideas guy share power with a president who is ill formed, often baffling ideas are insignificant cases the ofosite of his own and conservatives generally entree to medicare and social security immigration policy and more? could mr. ryan really expect compromise for mr. trump, who has already served notice that republican congressional leaders should just be quiet and leave running the country to him? guest: i think they're a two things happening with paul ryan. as mentioned earlier, he's got a primary, a party to lead in the house. if you were to distance himself from donald trump, refused to endorse, think you would be out of a job.

he badly wants the ideas he has promoted in the house for years to have a chance of getting signed into law. he feels he another donald trump is a candidate that will probably -- that is probably run the least substantive campaign of any nominee or candidate we've seen in modern times he has a better chance of getting tax reform or some entitlement reforms signed into law by president trump than president clinton. host: democrats line, good morning. caller: i have something to speak on. i was wondering if the republicans say so much bad about donald trump, but they have the same values but they keep telling him to be quiet, shut it down and we're going to back you. the media and the republican leaders of the party have the same values as donald trump. why don't they come out open and say it? why do they have to be

underhanded? underhandedbeing so . we need to get those people out of office. we need to get those people out who shut down the government instead of having a vote. that is what is happening to his country. host: thank you, lionel. we will get a response. guest: the caller touched on how republicans have tried to get donald trump to tone it down and change his rhetoric. sentiment hasn't in the meeting donald trump had with senate republicans, house republicans gave him a better reception. this week was this week is notable because it is the first time we have seen a national tragedy where donald trumps response has not been incendiary. a lot of republicans in congress are wondering if this is a turning point for him. is he beginning to take the advice of his top strategists?

or will he revert back to his old ways when he is off-the-cuff giving speeches at the convention or going ahead to the general election? we will see. post" withwashington this headline. jane from newburgh, indiana, republican line. good morning. caller: yes, i would like to know why the democrats in the senate voted against [indiscernible] host: voted against what, jane? got killed girl that by the illegal immigrant. they voted against it. host: the sanctuary city. caller: now they have done it again. host: thanks for the call. that was an issue senator pat comey -- pat toomey was front

and center on. he is one of the vulnerable republicans. guest: democrats and republicans this year care about different issues. for republicans, the immigration issue lights the base on fire. they cannot understand where democrats are in the senate or house. democrats are much more focused on guns than they were several months ago. building aelieve wall around no-fly/nobody they can gain traction on the gun issue. we have seen it is hard to the still an issue down to one piece of legislation. it tends to be a tougher sell. more broadly, it tends to bleed into the overall debate on guns. host: jane, if you're interested, there is a piece in the "new york times" that goes

to your point. senator toomey was cosponsor of legislation that would prevent so-called sanctuaries icities from receiving federal funds. the measure failed politically. he tried to do something on it. the story available online at nytimes.com. joe, good morning, democrats line. caller: i wanted to speak to what the caller from nevada said. i am a union guy myself. i lost my job in 1991 during the recession in the late 1980's. by the way, there was a republican in the white house for that recession just as there was in 2008. the only prices that were not going down was health insurance premiums. i got another job in the private sector. you would get a raise, but you have to pay more for your health

insurance. then they started -- bill clinton started to talk about universal health care. hillary got in on the conversation. 12% ins were going up 1992. 1994, they were down 2%. that made a difference in the lives of working americans. it was a temporary break, but was a break. i think the caller from nevada should think about that. host: thank you. david wasserman? guest: that is the message democrats will try and focus to working-class or union households that might be undecided in this election. there was a caller earlier from maryland who wondered why he was not hearing more of that message from democrats come through, why they were not attacking donald trump constantly or harshly on the airwaves. the answer to that might be in

some media markets like washington, d.c., where that call you're not seeing it yet. putting targeted markets where andary clinton's campaign others are spending money, there's going to be blanket coverage throughout the summer defining donald trump is a saying kind of corporate robber baron they defined mitt romney as in 2012. host: nothing will get done in congress until after the election, it is all about sending messages until the election. when: this is a season hillary clinton is going to have to earn the support of bernie sanders' supporters are making concessions in the party that won't necessarily become part of her governing agenda in 2017.

that worries some bernie sanders' supporters. it is also a season when a lot of republicans want donald trump to reassure them he is a true conservative. whattatement outlining supreme court nominations he might make was an effort for the reassurance -- towards that reassurance. host: mark is our last call on the independent line from california. caller: good morning. there's a couple of things. because of gerrymandering, that is one reason democrats won't take back the house. see why people't would vote for donald trump when he has no platform. he has no ideas. he just throws out whatever is on the top of his head. he does not explain anything. surprised republicans

can be bamboozled into voting for the sky. -- this guy. host: thank you for the call from california. guest: the caller hit on redistricting and gerrymandering. int is certainly a factor why democrats are at a low point of 188 seats in the house. at the same time, there have been court rulings in the pasture that have benefited democrats in that area. congressionalout maps in florida, north carolina, and virginia. and at least in virginia and florida, we will see democrats have opportunities to win back seats thanks to new mapping for 2016. in st. petersburg in orlando, florida, and virginia, he will see democratic pickups that don't have much to do with changing sentiment. they have everything to do with changing maps. host: let me conclude where we

began. your piece available on the website that republican support for donald trump depends on the vulnerability. looking ahead to november 8, it will be a good night for house republicans if this one bellwether seat maintains in republican control. conversely for democrats, one seat that could spell trouble for republicans. guest: early in the night, i will be watching two districts in particular. the district in the northern virginia suburbs, the seat republicans to to their advantage after 2010 is held by barbara comstock. she was a freshman republican. she made her reputation as a bill clinton opposition researcher in the 1990's, was an aide to former congressman frank wolf. she is facing a tough challenge this time from lou and bennett, a real estate business woman. that is a top target for democrats.

barbara comstock is distancing herself from donald trump at the top of the ticket. the other race i would pay to night is on election the new jersey district. he is running for reelection against a former clinton aide. garrett asg to frame ot for refusing i to give contributions to republican candidates for congress. as a trying to link him clinton speechwriter. that constellation of races early on will tell us something. if republicans hold onto virginia 10, that will be a good sign for them. it democrats managed to sneak a win in virginia, they might be doing well in suburban districts they would need to get clinton the majority.

host: we will be talking to you often over the next four or five months before the election. david wasserman, but a house editor for "cook political report," always appreciate your insights. arnes is going to be joining us. she is the author of the book on hillary clinton. she covers the campaign for "the hill" newspaper. later, steve reilly. you are watching and listening to c-span's "washington journal" on this sunday morning, july 10. we are back in a moment. >> be hard-fought 2016 primary

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with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. >> "washington journal" continues. amie pines,g us, senior white house correspondent for "the hill" newspaper. of "state co-author secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton." early next year, out with a new book on the interesting and wacky campaign. let's talk about hillary clinton. the week began with the f.b.i. director saying no charges will followed by testimony by james comey. on friday, it was focused on the horrific tragedy in dallas texas. it was a riveting week for washington. she campaigned with president obama in the middle of all of that. definitely a friday

afternoon news dump with the tragic news week where we saw tragic things happen across the country she addressed it finally. a lot of reporters wanted to hear from her and she went out and did that. she was on cbs and cnn. this from nbc and msnbc. hillary clinton in conversation with lester holt on the e-mail investigation. [video clip] hillary clinton: yesterday, director comey clarified many of the issues you alluded to. he clarified, as did the state department, that very few, no more than three documents they thought might have some kind of markings, two of them were the result of human error. they were not classified. i believe and have said many times that i take classified

material seriously. i have said i regret using a personal e-mail. we turned over every document in my possession when the state department requested it. we turned over every device we had. betweenere a disconnect what you said and what he found? it is playing into the narrative of the truck campaign. how do you respond to that? hillary clinton: i would repeat, if you read his testimony yesterday, i think there was a lot of clarification. i do not leave all of the professionals i don't with in the state department were careless and handling classified materials. i am proud to have worked with the and i believe clarification set forth yesterday answered a lot of those remaining questions. hear amie parnes, as you hillary clinton parser answer to lester holt's questions, does

this now get behind her? guest: one thing for sure, republicans will keep bringing this up. donald trump will keep bringing this up on the campaign trail. you heard her sort of defend her e-mail use again, say she was sorry. there are some differences there. the f.b.i. found she did actually send classified information. there were e-mails that were there. she did not actually turn over -- the f.b.i. said there were nearly 2000 e-mails she did not turn over that were considered business-related, even though she said all the e-mails she turned over were business-related. there are some discrepancies there. i think that is what republicans will seize on in the coming. this is not over. i think republicans are going to keep hammering at this. you heard congressman

chaffetz make an issue of this earlier in the week. he asked director comey, did she lie to congress? f.b.i. he would get the some documents they apparently did not review in this. we will continue to see a continuation of this saga play out, even though the clinton people say it is over. clintony is team thankful for donald trump? your story available at thehil l.com. guest: they think he is not trustworthy. they think he will speak his mind in ways that sound ridiculous. people in her world think if she wa against rubio or jeb bush, she would have a harder time. but because he does stick his foot in his mouth so often, they feel sort of grateful for that.

host: speculation donald trump will announce his running mate this week and not wait for the convention next week. what do you hear? guest: i think that is right. i think he is going to announce it this week. that is when a source told me earlier. stay tuned. it is unclear where he is headed. i think in the clinton camp, we know of a few leading contenders. for republicans, it is all over the place at this point. i don't know that there is a candidate he is looking at. host: we talked to shane for an interview and tonight. he seems to think hillary clinton will make her announcement next friday, the day after the convention in cleveland wraps up. guest: that would be the smart thing to do, to give it to her convention. that is what i think most people try to do on the heels of another convention to sort of take the attention from the last one.

, to look ahead to their own convention. she is still going through the vetting process. cheryl mills was her chief of staff at the state department and is leading that process. there were meetings about that this week at clinton's home, so i think they are still narrowing it down to a few candidates and then they will make a decision in the next few days. host: senator tim kaine part of our coverage tonight. an interview you may not want to miss with senator al franken. he is a funny guy. tune in tonight. carol, minneapolis, republican line, with amie parnes. good morning. caller: i was a republican but i cannot stand this election so i have turned to democrat. i should say that. in 2007 -- are you there? host: we sure are. caller: in 2007 during the bush

, they had ann e-mail server in the republican party off-site, nonsecure, the same thing. they accused her of murder, drug dealing, something or other was losing $42,000 in a land deal that nobody has figured out what it is. it seems republicans don't have any ideas, but they just want to crucify hillary clinton no matter what she does. andess that is my comment whatever you think about that. host: you are a former republican, correct? we have had a couple of interesting colors is mourning -- callers this morning. guest: it is all over the place. i had breakfast this week with a republican operative who wants

to vote for hillary clinton. you're seeing more of that into the party. people are still blessed around people are still not coalescing around trump late in the campaign the way he would have wanted. that is a problem and what we are seeing. host: how visible will president obama be postconvention for the clinton campaign? guest: very visible. he wants to be out there is much as possible. this is his final campaign. his legacy is on the line. he likes hillary clinton right now. i get that question a lot because they were rivals at one point, but he respects her. i often call the work friends. i think there is a great respect between one another. he is happy to go out there. we will see vice president biden do the same thing. of course, he was disappointed in the outcome and wanted to run against hillary clinton.

but he is going to be a vocal advocate for her as well. host: weatherford, texas, rocky, on the independent line amie parnes. caller: good morning. i appreciate you taking my call. i want to give my condolences to dallas and the police officers' families lost in that. my comment about ms. clinton. she went to the a.m.e. methodist black church and started withsting white people black privilege and all this other stuff. did she ever go to white churches? another thing i would like to ask ms. clinton if i could. there two books that might help you. one is called the hole bible and the other is the koran. has peace and hate in it. as far as her campaign and mr. do you know about the racism part of their campaign?

whitney houston dies in las vegas and he flies the flag at half mast. chris kyle gets killed, most decorated sniper in american history, and not even a phone call. that is where the divide starts. host: thank you. [video clip] white americans need to do a better job of listening when african americans talk. [applause] barriers you face every day. toneed to try as best we can .alk in one another's shoes to imagine what it would feel like if people followed us around stores or locked their car doors when we walked past. [applause]

or if every time our children went to play in the park or went for a ride or just to the store webuy ice tea and skittles, god,a prayer, "please, don't let anything happen to my baby." [applause] host: amie parnes, this speech got a lot of reaction although it was moved to the back pages because of the situation in dallas, texas. africanence primarily americans in philadelphia. what motivated her to do this? guest: it is something she felt compelled to do. she rewrote the speech twice. once on the heels of the shootings in minnesota and louisiana, and then again after the dallas shootings. she tried to incorporate all of it into this speech. apparently, it is something she is going to continue talking about the coming weeks.

she is going to break this into policy and talk about gun control and other things that relate to this. it is something that motivated her at that time. going back to the previous caller, not -- she does not talk about her faith very often. but this is someone who actually does go to church when she can. she is a methodist and a big believer in the wesley in way of doing things. she feels she is here to be a public servant. this is something near and dear to her. she talks to aids about it frequently. she talked about it on the heels of the violence in south carolina. we will be hearing more about this. i think she is able to speak about it in a freer way than president obama who skirted the erm duringhe first tim trayvon martin. we all remember the summit where

he tried to bring all sides together but did not feel entirely comfortable talking about it until recent years. i think we are going to hear more about this from her in the coming weeks on the trail and if she is elected as president. host: this is from the "chicago sun-times." time to end the divisions between lack and white and police officers and minorities. and this from "the star tribune" in minneapolis-st. paul. these are lingering issues but now front and center moving into the conventions. guest: in addition to tear and everything else, the economy, this is going to be in the top three or four issues both candidates are going to have to talk about. both are on different sides. it is going to be interesting to see how that plays out. let's get back to phone calls. from harrisburg, pennsylvania, tom is next on the democrats line. caller: good morning.

i am a proud isolationist and and educated on why free trade has been so great for america. i can show you abandoned mills. i keep being told because you appreciate the pricing. really? the $600 phone i'm calling you on, i don't appreciate that. clothes are not cheap. cars? i will never be able to buy a brand-new car off the showroom. here i am is a democrat. i'm against military intervention. i've got hillary clinton. and i am against free trade. and i've got hillary clinton. what am i supposed to do? host: thank you for the call. you going to vote? caller: i'm voting for trump.

lifelong democrat voting for trial. host: do you think donald trump can win pennsylvania? if they cheat in philadelphia, the democrats will pull it off. in the media markets, trump is winning no doubt. democrats usually come out so far ahead in philadelphia republicans cannot caps on. host: thank you for the call. guest: the problem for her particularly among white males, it is a democratic -- demographic she has been hurting with. they supported her in a big way so the flipped this cycle because of her support for free trade deals. that is something she will need to work on because a lot of these people like this caller want to support donald trump. host: how does she deal with the trump factor? every poll indicates she is

underwater when it comes to people that don't trust her. guest: it is tricky. she admitted it in a speech a couple of weeks ago. she will talk in more detail about her story. she will rely on her surrogates to vouch for her and tell -- make it seem like she is trustworthy and she is trustworthy. you have already seen that. that is why president obama went out this week and said he had all the faith in the world in her. you heard elizabeth warren say she had a big hearted couple of weeks back. she's going to rely on surrogates in a big way to tell the story, the hillary clinton story. it is a problem for her. written about ability of million times in the campaign. trust plays into that. it is something that looms over her campaign. her aides are very aware of that. it is something they're going to have to work out. host: hey, morning, everybody.

i just wanted to say before i am [indiscernible] i identify as conservative. i feel that hillary must he stopped. she is crooked, lies, cheats. bernie, it would not have been bad because he is an honest guy. going back to the republican fan, i am not a big trump but it is much better than the alternative. hillary, i mean, look at what obama has done for our country. not much. trump will lower taxes, bring us jobs and he will help put all of us back to work, support the second amendment, and stop this madness andcorrect

let america be america again. robert, thank you. donald trump will be in virginia beach focusing on veteran issues. guest: i think that is also a big demographic he is trying to win over. -- virginia is obviously going to be in play and he needs to fight in virginia. he has democratic leadership at the head of that, so he will sort of have to definitely make a play for virginia to in the white house. host: where does that put senator cain on the list of mates? guest: i think very high. everyone i have spoken to, people inside the process, although, not the inner circle making the decision, but close enough, people of longtime and sayingmaking that he is the front runner. he was on senator obama's list, i think he came in second, and i she thinks a lot

of him. he can appeal to hispanics. he is from virginia. he is from a with the party apparatus because of his background there, so use definitely someone who is -- i think he is a very good shot at becoming the candidate. host: let's take that one step further. a longtime friend of hillary clinton, at least the first year in democratic control. guest: and that is why the senator from ohio stands a lesser chance, although, you heard harry reid sort of talk about how it wasn't as important . i think it is. i think they want to win back the senate so that is a factor. host: it began in iowa and new hampshire. our next caller is from new hampshire. wendy, good morning. are you an independent voter? caller: yes, i am. host: who are you going to vote

for? caller: i am still on the fence. i just wanted to comment on something said. i know that a lot of people have hillaryave said that has said she was sorry. i have never heard it. say.e never heard her i wanted to point out i have never heard her say i am sorry. has she? guest: i think she has a couple of times. it's a her a while. her aides had been pushing her to get there and the former president to get there, and they were the last people who sort of agreed to make this acknowledgment that she was sorry for doing this. she did an interview i believe on abc in september in 2015 where she basically acknowledged that she was sorry and that she the't intend to misuse

server and the e-mail the way that has been described. host: let's go to les in houston, texas. good morning. caller: good morning. in respect to the brown indictment and in respect to the idea it has to do with foundation and corruption, and in florida, does a carry over into ms. clinton's campaign? guest: that is a good question. in florida, it is a swing state, very important. although it is in northern florida, which can tend to vote republican, so i do know that .as an impact all democrats focus on miami, palm beach county, and that is my home state, so i know it pretty well, and i think that is what she is going to aim to do. host: if you look at the battleground states, pennsylvania, ohio, colorado, virginia, new hampshire,

florida, iowa, what other states? guest: i think that about covers it. win, she hasng to to win florida and ohio pretty much. and she has to keep pennsylvania and some other states in her column republican colorado, as well. and thec, state secrets rebirth of hillary clinton, focusing on her tenure, four years as secretary and the title "rebirth," why? guest: i wanted to call her book because hillary clinton has these massive dips and then she rises again. i was so interested, when my co-author and i started working on this because i wanted to know how she sewed up rises again, how she comes back. had you go work for the man who defeated you? ,ho is this guy, barack obama and why did she end up working for him?

we are seeing this again. some controversies play out with benghazi, the e-mail, and how does she make a way out of this? can she win? fascinating tale, whether you like her or you do not like her. for anyone, i think it is a good human interest story. host: from california, monica, you are next. good morning. caller: good morning. i am a hillary supporter so i have a couple of things to say about trump, but what i don't understand is why people relate to trump when he has never been poor, and i don't believe he has an understanding when the paycheck does not make the entire month. go back to his taxes. when is he going to release them , and what are his policies to "help the economy" when the economy is changing? we are leaving more from industrial worlds to informational world. thank you. host: monica, thank you. let's begin with the issue of

taxes. guest: i think the fact that he hasn't will continue to play out, that he hasn't released them. i think you will hear clinton, particularly around the debate, called for a and make that an issue. there are some people who say he is not as wealthy as he might seem, so that is definitely -- i mean, his wealth is going to be an issue. then again, the clintons were not exactly poor. hillary clinton made that remark at couple of years ago after her book came out that they left the white house dead broke and that became its own little issue and controversy, so i think in her telling, she is going to sort of say -- she did sort of from little and that thing, so they can relate to it. that is why people were so drawn to barack obama, who still -- he

would often tell people he was still paying off his student loans until recently, very relatable. that is sort of what you want, i guess, in a president, someone to understand your pain. host: let's go to katie in sunset, texas, good morning, republican line. caller: yes, you know, we have this long line of accusations of dishonesty in the candidates, and i am sure that there are valid arguments on both sides. .illary has got so much baggage she was accused of taking artwork from the white house when her and bill clinton left, and she did not return it until .he was up or went for election there is just so much stuff and so many rumors about hillary and her dishonesty. it is hard not to believe that

she was even honest about not being rich when she left the white house because we all know that she is, ok? guest: that is part of the narrative right now. that is why she said the other day that she needs turned back this trust, the trust of the voters. that quite possibly is one of the biggest things that could haunt her campaign, the fact that she and her husband to come with all this baggage. and thes whitewater, lewinsky scandal, and everything else from his administration. plus, when the attack on the e-mail controversy and people's suspicions there, i want to say there is a shadowy figure following them in a way. that is the thing that she will have to address in a big way if she wants to sort of, particularly, it she does win, because so many americans do not trust her.

that is a problem for her. host: does bill clinton have a handler? i ask you because of his meeting with loretta lynch in phoenix, arizona. is there someone who was trying to make sure he doesn't do some of the things he has been doing? handlers,y all have but sometimes to get todd up in the situations that they would not want to be in and i think this was one of them. it was one of those moments where the campaign said, why would he do that? i think that is a pretty fair statement. [laughter] host: what do you think she said to him? guest: she must have been pretty stern because it plays into the trust factor and this was a couple of days before the fbi came down with their decision, and people thought that was caught up in that, so there is always some sort of entanglement there that they need to sort of talk about a little more. host: let's go to indiana next. ron, good morning. caller: hi.

i wanted to bring a couple points up. i have been watching obama promised eight years, and i have seen them come out on the campaign for many numbers of democrat people. have any of those people actually won? he is like the kiss of death for any democrat. can you name me one person that he has been on the campaign for and they have won? he has been waiting to fix all these problems. i have been preaching this for 40 years. the president has two terms and what is wrong with the rest of these people with two terms that they're down there for two terms and they do not have time to be corrupted. get them out of there. this is not something you do as a career. you volunteer to do this for your country. host: thank you, ron. guest: there are definitely some races that president obama, candidates he has campaigned for, they have lost, obviously. bill clinton has a better track

record, which is why they wanted him out there in 2012 campaigning, the so-called explainer in chief, and when he does campaign for people, they in 2010.tended to win a lot of these candidates were people who opposed barack obama in 2008 or supported barack obama and that was sort of their indication for it. [laughter] out: the book is coming next year. the title is a working title, but give us a premise of what you're working on. in 2014, when off it appears that hillary clinton was running. we wrote the book assuming that she would run, so we wanted a body of work that sort of examined what she did as secretary of state, so it picks up there. it examines the campaign, the rise, the fall, the turmoil, but then again, how did she win? how did she do it if she loses? how did it go wrong for her again?

host: there was one moment in the primary season, she loses the new hampshire primary, and she orders a larger plane to bring everyone back to new york. can you share that story? guest: it was a low moment and her campaign was getting pummeled by people, even her supporters that were saying, what is going on? what is wrong there? host: she lost new hampshire badly. guest: badly. much more severely than a lot of people had anticipated. they really had to sort of come together and quickly pieced carry onhow they could with the campaign, and i think that is sort of how she ended up winning by going and talking, going and talking in the back rooms, meeting with restaurant workers, housekeeping, union workers, and she did that. you saw her at all hours sort of doing these rings turned their votes, and then on to south carolina, where there was a very big african-american population

that ended that coming out in the big way and supporting her, had to come together very quickly and figure out how she could go ahead and win the rest of the states because it was -- the narrative at the time was, could she lose again if bernie sanders is the next barack obama and will he take her down? she ended up winning and won the nomination. host: we go to barbara, next. thank you for waiting period caller: thank you for 2 -- host: thank you. caller: thank you. i do not understand how people think donald trump will help the economy. every product idea and his daughter make is made overseas. trump tower was made with chinese steel. 90% of the people to work for he hasflorida are people with special green cards to work, foreigners, so how does this help the economy? why didn't he start with himself? guest: that is a really good

question, and seeing little campaign videos made by the campaign for hillary clinton on where his products are made, they will keep making that an issue. you saw hillary clinton go to atlantic city this weekend and sort of tell the story of how his property their failed. that is definitely -- his properties their failed. that is something they will continue to drive home. host: the republicans keeping the fbi investigation alive with testimony by loretta lynch. she will be testifying before the house judiciary committee, and we will have live coverage on the c-span network. from georgia, good morning. caller: good morning. i tuned in a little bit late to the segment and i don't often has been brought up or not, but i'm interested in getting her perspective on the linton's campaign's -- on the clinton

campaign's view on gary johnson, the libertarian campaign, and how do they see that affecting them positively or negatively? will draw votes from both sides. i have been a libertarian for 10, 12 years now. , i would just like to hear what she would have to say about that. host: thank you. recovered gary johnson and the national press club, book indicating that they are at 11% in the overall national polling. guest: i don't think it is necessarily a worry to them. their biggest worry is getting to bernie sanders supporters on board and coalescing the party in that way. they felt like if they could do she could win the white house. i think she is still looking to win over some supporters. i hear from various people who wanted a talk about various issues. she has embraced some of his issues like college tuition,

which was a big one for a lot of his supporters great i think she has moved farther left and they would have liked, and she has sort of won over some of that support. host: this headline from "the villages" in central florida, a huge retirement community for democrats and republicans, hoping for a list in overall turnout. robert from glen, new york -- from brooklyn, new york, republican line. caller: good morning. i have two questions. the first [indiscernible] china makes products that shipped to america, and the second question is for the people voting democratic. there is a possibility you know someone who has no food in their house now but not tomorrow.

hillary clinton was the head lawyer for walmart. she was supported obama. she also was a lobbyist for walmart. she is walmart. can you answer those questions, please? host: let's begin on the issue of trade because as we heard from the earlier caller, nafta and the job losses playing a big part in this so-called rust belt states. guest: definitely. she had some discrepancies there and a little fighting with bernie sanders on this issue, and he tried to push her toward his and i do not think she is moving that far. some difference of opinion with barack obama, as well. she is going to have to sort of in order toers win. i think it is important to them,

and i think you will sort of see the makes strides in that direction to win them over in the general election. it is a big problem for her. huge numbers of african americans have supported her. she doesn't have a lot of support with younger women, in particular, and some women, so she has to focus on women's issues. you are going to see her, i think she is going to have to make strides to win over the demographics to win because i think donald trump is on her heels, differently on trade issues and that is what he has won so many states in the rust belt. host: many go back to the caller 's other point trade she served as walmart -- served on obama's board of directors. she is trying to redefine yourself as someone in the public eye with the public record. how does she do that? guest: it is harder for her than anyone because she is one of the most well-known women in the world, well known politician in

the world and her past is so well known, so she has to walk a fine line and sort of talking about how she did that and also how she was there and how she pushed insurance for children and all these other things. she advocated for children, and those are narratives you are seeing in commercials now, where she sort of talks more about that. she talks about her work and how she has embraced the gender in a 2008r way than she had in , so she is playing up those issues. i anticipate that she will continue to do that. host: a lot of developments in the next two weeks to three weeks with the trump and clinton campaigns. we will check in with you at the conventions in cleveland and philadelphia. amie parnes of "the hill." thank you. ata today" has been looking donald trump's is his feelings. steve reilly will be joining us.

morning, july 10. the present heading back to washington tonight. he will be in dallas, texas, early this week to read "washington journal" continues in a moment. -- early this week. "washington journal" continues in a moment. ♪ >> could five g mobile connectivity around the corner? seg chair is pushing for it and says the u.s. must lead the world to develop it monday on "the communicators." kathleen abernathy talks about 5g and what it means for the u.s. and she will discuss why 5g is needed for the internet of things, self driving cars and the expansion of virtual reality. she is joined by medications daily senior editor howard. >> the goal is to say we have the spectrum, the vision about where we want to go at wireless, and we are going to push ahead

to ensure that the u.s. maintains its global leadership in the wireless arena, and i think that is terrific for a country. in fact, i would argue that it is essential because this is one of those areas where u.s. mobile leadership has yielded tremendous benefits economically, from a technological perspective and from a job perspective. >> watch "the communicators" monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. i rode to the white house coverage continues in cleveland, with live coverage of the republican party platform committee. monday, july 11, starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern, and continuing tuesday, july 12, at 10:00 a.m. eastern. the rnc platform committee is responsible for drafting and approving the party platform and submitting it to delegates. a live coverage on c-span, the c-span radio app and www.c-span.org.

>> the business record at donald trump and the reporting of steve reilly, investigative reporter for "usa today." for being with us. let's begin with some highlights. first, in one of the serious stories you wrote, donald trump's unpaid bills, hundreds of them. what did you find out? guest: we begin by looking at donald trump's stream of litigation in the business world and looked at more than 3500 lawsuits involving mr. trump or his companies. litigation,body of there are hundreds of unpaid or bills that were paid late or there were disputes over .he payment a lot of those involved contractors, work or for businesses, small businesses that were with mr. trump's companies. host: 3500 lawsuits.

how unusual is that, regardless of your political career, but in a businesslike donald trump's? to hiswe compared business and litigation record to five other comparable business executives and business owners. in fact, mr. trump's body of litigation outnumbered all five of those combined. about half and half are split between lawsuits, in which mr. trump's companies are plaintiffs and defendants. of unpaid bills, it is not unusual for any company to try and renegotiate with their charging, some claiming that the bills were exaggerated and not correct, so is that unusual? guest: it is unusual, the allegations are often that the contractor made a deal to work on the trump project. the completed the work, and toward the end of the duration of the work, they submitted a bill for payment and were either

paid late or there is a dispute over the amount and the ultimately did not get the amount they felt was due to them. host: you had -- if you had a chance to look at donald trump's tax returns, what would you be looking for? guest: obviously, we cannot see donald trump personal tax returns. we looked at his is this taxes and found there were instances where they were paid late, tax warrants issued by the new york department of taxes and finance over some of those bills, but that is the context of the business empire, or there could be paperwork issues and other reasons for late payments. host: let me share with you and tied together with hillary clinton's speech in atlantic city, where she took aim at donald trump's business dealings. just watch. [video clip] ♪

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record, why should we trust you to run the nation's business? ♪ , that ad fromilly the hillary clinton campaign and donald trump responded with this tweet --i made a lot of money in atlantic city. i left years ago. great timing, as we all know. pols made big mistakes, now many bankruptcies. there besides of it. mr. trump is touting his record and the fact that he made money in atlantic city as a positive acumen andis is this leadership. at the same time, they were obviously there years and bankruptcies in atlantic city on his businesses.

in our article this week, we looked at regulatory actions by the new jersey casino control commission regarding the operation of those casinos and some problems with compliance with state regulations. host: also in a statement, saying, i have built a tremendously successful business, which created tens of thousands of jobs in atlantic city and also elsewhere. he does not have any ownership or management of those casinos, but why does his name remain? guest: his name has value. it is the source of a lot of litigation that we looked at our disputes of use of the trump name and the value he attaches to it, but the trump name has value and was retained in the course of the transfer of those casinos. host: steve reilly is our guest of "usa today," first up, republican line in oklahoma. morning.ood

i watch your show daily. so many people say, "i do not understand how people can support her vote for donald trump," well, let me answer quickly. ask a 34-year-old male, i have been marginalized, ignored by both parties, and this is the first time i have registered to vote and donald trump speaks to every issue that concerns me as a white male. i am against immigration. i am against globalization. if there is free trade, i think ariffsshould be te to encourage trade in the u.s. adoptedcratic party has the last eight years of the obama administration. one i trump is the only have ever been excited for, and it doesn't matter what expert mr. riley or what other people say. i will vote for donald trump on

this november. host: andrew, thank you for the call in obama. guest: andrew expresses the views of a lot of voters and there are a couple ways to look at the body of litigation involving trump. the records that we looked at, one third of them you could tell clearly who won or lost the legal dispute. mr. trump won far more than he lost. about four and 58 and lost about 38, so he has 458 andd in many -- lost 38, so he has prevailed in many. looking at his business record, he is running on his business record and that is the information we are reflecting in these stories and giving everyone a closer glimpse at the record of his operations.

pieces youe of the wrote, donald trump and his casino empire dogged by bad bets in atlantic city. you see that he reneged on promises made to casino officials to regulators in new jersey. how so? guest: that is right. there were more than $1 million in fines based on violations of casino regulations in new jersey , some dealing with workplace issues, in terms of racial disparities and in the workforce there, and one case involved a 3.5 money and dollar loan from donald trump's father that was in the form of casino chips that were purchased as a loan to the casino and their attack regulations around loans and the casino industry and that violated the regulations. host: to be fair to donald trump, if you look at gambling focusedcountry, really,

on las vegas, nevada and then it moved to atlantic city, new jersey, and now many states have their own casinos. was it bad timing on his part as their casinos in maryland, pennsylvania, connecticut, said was going to pull away whatever revenue would come primarily to atlantic city? guest: donald trump says it is a matter of timing and that he came in at the right time and left at the right time and employed a lot of workers at that time, so that is a part of his discussion on the campaign trail. at the same time, though, we do see these regulatory issues with compliance with state laws in terms of the operation of the casino while it was profitable. from ahis is a tweet viewer and there has been talk about the clinton foundation, and then are you have been working more of the trunk of the story, but hillary has to get trump's this is the liens out before the clinton foundation scandal hits the news. are you following her involvement with the clinton

foundation and money that she might have allegedly funneled into the foundation that was used by bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation? guest: i have not been reporting in detail on the clinton foundation, but that is certainly some of the same discussion on the other side of the aisle in terms of hillary clinton's financial issues. host: our guest is steve reilly, an investigative reporter for "usa today." .llinois is the next caller george, independent line. good morning. caller: thank you. i had a question for comparisons to trump and hillary. donald's failures are enumerated and they have cost people money. hillary's failure as secretary of state, particularly in iraq, haramlibya, the boko rescuing the girls, these have

, lives of men, women and children that cannot be recouped. the lives, the money, rather, that from past cost some people can be recouped, which is worse? which is more reprehensible? host: george, how would you answer that? caller: i think it is quite obvious. hillary's actions are more of principle. host: george, -- caller: hillary's actions are more reprehensible. host: george, thank you. guest: what we are doing, hillary clinton's record in office has been public and scrutinized and the points that george brought up have been discussed. what we looked at is mr. trump running on his as this record, so that is what we have to examine. in terms of pulling court filings, regulatory records, of the records, we looked at mr. trump's history in business, so

there has been a different kind of record for mr. trump and certainly thoughts have been negative on both sides. host: that is our focus with our guest steve reilly. his own investigative reporting, available online at usa today.com, including this dogged by bad bets in atlantic city. johnny has this question, who were the original owners of the trump resorts international? guest: i do not have an answer to that. it wasn't exactly what we looked at in this story. host: you did point out in your piece that trump often then sees name to these buildings and casinos without operating them on a day by day basis. guest: that is true. esther trump attaches by you to trumpme and has -- mr. attaches value to his name and has used that to essentially mark it in the properties that he operates, so that is part of

how his business works. host: let's go to larry from charlotte, north carolina. good morning. caller: morning. i am a businessman, have been for 30 years, and i know that business and on-chip in ownership very messy. when you look on the clinton side, she and her husband have made hundreds of millions of and when you compare, let's just say a couple other points, when she came in on the chat with present -- on the jet with president barack obama and had the emblem of the president it was aited states, purely political trip to help hillary clinton at $220,000 an hour to run air force one, and i bet that her campaign will give him back $600 or something then "usa today" will not investigate that. another thing with haiti, i just don't do well for haiti in the

village myself, and i had some help her mother guys and we went down to build a well. the clinton foundation has cheated haiti. the poor, wonderful people of haiti by making promises and never delivering and taking money and i have never seen "usa today" touch the story and i do not understand why. host: thank you, mary. we do want to point -- thank you, larry. we do want to point out your point about president obama but i want to make sure that we say that other residents have done the same thing, democrats and republicans, and we will get a response. steve reilly? guest: those are important points. those are not issues i have reported directly on, but certainly, there are questions about hillary clinton's record out,ike the caller points a couple different areas that are being looked into. host: on the larger issue of the investigative unit and "usa

today," what is your approach to the campaign and candidates? guest: we have been covering both candidates aggressively, as all the media has over the last couple of months and we will continue to. looking at donald trump's business record is where we can look at the history of his leadership and it is a window withhow he deals confidence, runs a large organization, so that is how we are looking at his record. hillary clinton, we have different vantage points in terms of her history in public office. all of the pieces are available online at usa today.com. from pennsylvania, deborah, good morning. independent line with steve reilly. caller: thank you for taking my call. i went in to make a few comments. first of all regarding lying, everyone lies, and they have done research on lying. powerful people seem to get away more than anybody

else. that is my first point. the second point is that as people are so sick and tired of being lied to by the political leaders, you know, took place faith in a billionaire who lies more than any other candidate really surprises me. i wish people would go to political fax.com and do research. i am an independent. hillary.ng for i cannot imagine -- i would be so embarrassed at donald trump made it for president of the united states. host: thank you, deborah. guest: well, deborah raises a good point. donald trump has been raising questions about hillary clinton's honesty and integrity over the course of the campaign. others have raised questions about donald trump's honesty. the lawsuits that we looked at,

the nature of litigation there, there are disputes over whether and honest infair his business dealings and whether he lived up to his obligations, so there are allegations that mr. trump did not pay on time, despite notements to do so and did pay the amounts agreed upon at that amount of time. the contractors and small businesses often alleged that mr. trump was not honest with them, so it is being debated on both sides of the campaigns. a number ofre unpaid bills that you were able to come up with? the nature of some of these disputes, a lot of them do not even end up in court. mr. trump has advanced legal resources, so we talked to a number of small businesses and workers who felt they were treated unfairly, but did not

end up pursuing a lawsuit or drop the lawsuit before it moved forward, so we were not able to obtain an exact number of disputes over unpaid bills. host: let's go to jerry in huntington beach, california. good morning. caller: good morning. trump versusith hillary, neither one of them are great candidates, but the thing about hillary is she will nominate people in the supreme court who will actually help people considered the corporations or so i have seen from the supreme court for a long time. that alone is the reason to vote for hillary clinton. forget about trump, all these people think trump is so great. he is not. the idea that he is the republican to put in this is unacceptable. i hope people will think about

that because that is the main thing. host: thank you. comments? atst: well, we did not look judicial selection in our investigation. we did look at mr. trump's leadership in terms of choosing delegates in his business operations and who he works with, so that all gets to how mr. trump runs an organization and the attention to detail and picking the right surrogates to work for him. host: his business dealings did come up in one debate, this from the fox news channel. questions by patrick wallace. [video clip] the latestlk about example, which is trump entertainment resorts, which went bankrupt in 2009. in that case alone, lenders to your company lost over $1 billion and more than 1100 people were laid off.

is that what you run the company? donald trump: let me tell you about the lenders. these are not babies. these are total killers. these are not the sweet people that you think. you are living in a world of make-believe if you want to know the truth. [laughter] [applause] i had the good sense to leave atlantic city, which by the way, caesars just went bankrupt, every company, chris can tell you, every company virtually no atlantic city went bankrupt, every company. let me tell you, i had the good sense and i have gotten a lot of credit in the financial pages, seven years ago i left atlantic city before it cratered and it made a lot of money in atlantic city, and i'm very proud of it. i am very, very proud of it. host: steve reilly, one of the early debates with donald trump on the fox news channel. your comments. guest: mr. trump did make money off of those casinos and he did brag about it on the campaign trail. what we looked at this week's

some history of regulatory instances with the operations of those campaigns, and mr. trump there was talking about the with him,d them being and another aspect of how he runs his business are contractors that filed lawsuits against him, they accuse mr. andp abusing his leverage money and legal resources to quash any claims that they would have against his business operations. host: this tweet from a viewer about his taxes, he has not released them. asking you to comment on that releasing his tax returns. do you think this is a legal or political? guest: it has been discussed that mr. trump says he cannot release them due to a nod it. others say the audit is ongoing -- them due to an audit. others say that the audit is ongoing and there should not be a problem, so we cannot take a look at his personal finances.

we did look at the history of taxes involving his companies. over the 100 tax evaluation of his properties or late payments to pay tax authorities, particularly in new york state. look at his business taxation records but we cannot look at his personal finances right now. host: responding to hillary clinton in atlantic city, another tweet from donald trump -- even the once great caesar's is bankrupt in atlantic city. others to follow. ask the democratic city council what happened to atlantic city. let me ask you, what did happen? guest: there was an expansion to other states in allowing more casinos in and the city's finances kind of deteriorated over time, and microsoft mr. in termse good timing of getting out at the right time and making a lot of money,

his is hisy timing decisions correctly in atlantic city. host: michael at this question, other similar lawsuits against of the casinos or is donald trump an outlier? guest: donald trump is a bit of an outlier in terms of what we looked at. this is due to the timing and regulators' aggraggressiveness d he had a hold on the casinos when he was there, so that could be due to disparities over the time. host: we welcome our viewers across the atlantic in great britain. it is carried on the bbc parliament channel. your to talk about in country. barbara joins us from essex, england. caller: good afternoon. back in the 1980's, i became an citizen and my friend said to me, why would you want to vote?

what does he know? the cabbie turned out, the best resident we have had in a long time, so what i am -- the best president we have had in a long time, so what i am saying to our friends over the pond, mr. trump has a lot to bring, he is a businessman. do not panic. just keep the faith and i am sure it will turn out great. host: thank you, barbara. guest: i think a lot of people share that view that we should not discount the fact that he is a businessman. in fact, many people are looking to his success in business that it is a sign that we will be successful in reviving the country's economy, so there are a few sides. hastrump points out that he run successful business. there has been a few conflicts in the course of running the business, so he is a different

kind of candidate for sure, so him from ang at different angle than other candidates in the past. host: marie has this comment saying "casinos going under, proof of a bad economy." you can share your tweet with us @cspanwj. another question from a viewer, mr. riley, did you have access to mr. trump when you did this reporting? if so, what was said? guest: i did speak with esther trump and his daughter ivanka on the conflicts and litigation unpaid contracts paid mr. trump was firm in saying that he does not pay for work that is not complete or did not live up to the applications of the contract. he said it would be a responsible to run a business and make payments for work that was essentially no good and he pushed back against the premise of what we were discussing the

story. so that was pretty much as feedback on our story. host: a couple other points from the viewer saying, atlantic city not near any major transportations, airports, only buses, but all casino areas are out of the way. another viewer saying, if i could pay taxes, then why should my president -- then why shouldn't my president? host: good morning. caller: good morning. great job. longtime listener, first time caller. i will say that nobody -- it doesn't sound like your guest actually looked into the difference between what donald trump actually is. he is a real estate developer principally and that is where he made most of his money. creating jobs in terms of manufacturing or the casino business, when you weigh that

against his real estate side of the business, i am sure it points out as total failure. to give him the trust, as an independent affiliated person, i have split my boat for many years. i would -- split might vote for many years. i would distrust the united states economy, to clearly with our economy changing from manufacture-based economy to a technology-i.t.-based and even health to a person that has failed when it comes to producing jobs under what we used to be our old economy. i would just like to know if you actually had any in your investigations been in touch with any businesses that were stiffed in new jersey? host: thank you. guest: certainly we did speak to small business owners in new jersey. brings up the point

of where the jobs are. a lot of them were in the construction industry and contractors that worked with the trump organization over the years. some of those businesses in new jersey say that mr. trump did not pay the full amount. we spoke to the executive at a former company that said he did --sswork for one of trump's glass work for one of terms casinos and was paid pennies on the dollars after legal negotiations. at one point, there was a video tour document that pointed out there were 253 unpaid claims against trumps organization during the course of the construction of the casinos there, so there were actions and disputes over amounts due and small businesses that were affected by this. host: with all of these lawsuits, isn't that really a negotiating tool? guest: that is what mr. trump nd his argument

is that he is a negotiator and dealmaker. with terms organization and small business, he has a lot of moneyge in terms of can point to lawsuits, often david versus goliath battles over smaller payments that usually more often are not worth it for the small businesses to fight. certainly, that is a negotiation tool he has at his disposal. host: from pennsylvania, roger, democrat line with steve reilly. good morning. good morning. donald trump and his father are lackeys of the mob. garfield ran the philadelphia mob and owned atlantic city. you could not get anything up without permission from him. donald trump was a front man, that is how the mob operates. when he died, went to jail and died, that was in early 2000, that is what atlantic city fell

apart. donald trump did not decide to get out of atlantic city, he was forced out and went broke late in 1985, they built a hotel and it was taken away and given to donald trump at a loss because the corrupt new jersey gaming commission would not give them a license to operate. in 1999, he offered me a job today was hardwood floors, and i had heard in 1999, it was well known that he does not pay. i told him i would get back to you because i cannot afford the haircut. right now, he owes a friend of mine, and a copy new york city who did security, half $1 million and there is a legal battle going on and only offered 250-- he says, take and use my name to get out of the work. he would be the most corrupt, hands down, president ever. who wase than the guy

known as the most corrupt president -- harding reid he would be way worse to read it is -- harding. he would be way worse. host: roger, what is your business? caller: carpentry and hardwood flooring. i spent time with donald trump, it is a long story, but he offered me a position to do his floors and i am still from the with the head of the new york city hardwood floors and i had access to the entire new york city hard floor -- hardwood floor union. host: there is the union for hardwood flooring? caller: oh, yeah, sure. host: i just had not heard of that. like hisnly big jobs, apartment buildings, although, he probably doesn't use the union. host: but you have had personal interaction with donald trump? caller: i was talking to someone

else, he wasn't as open as he was now. he was very measured in his statements. host: one-on-one dealings? have you talked to him on the business side? caller: i heard he did not pay, so i cannot afford to take a haircut, so i was smart enough to say, thanks, but no thanks. host: thank you for the call. steve reilly? guest: roger a process story about himself -- rogers story about himself and friend mirror what we have read in court documents, especially with regards to attaching value to the trump name and saying, you can put this on your construction resume our work resume and it is worth what we are going to take off of the contract, and there are businesses that have declined to work with mr. trump as a result of some of what they heard from other businesses about his contractual work. .ost: another tweet from j.w.s

saying, i knew contractors who stood around all day and still got paid building the trump casinos. let's go to maine, next. good morning. caller: a couple years ago, there was a website called clinton chronicles and i reviewed it recently. have you ever done anything or investigation on those clinton chronicles to find out if that website is sound? theypears to be, where have prosecutors, judges, senators and everybody that participates in those clinton chronicles. have you ever looked at them, and would you look into it and find out if that particular website is as valid as it looks? host: thank you, jim. we will get response. guest: that specific website is not something we have looked directly at. it sounds excepting that is

discussing secretary clinton's in public life, which has been subject to scrutiny. what we are looking at here is donald trump sister in the business world that we can look at through court right -- donald trump's history in the business world that we can look at the court records. so there are different histories into both party of the presumptive nominees at this point. host: you have posted a series of stories on donald trump's dealings. what kind of reaction have you had from donald trump or his campaign? guest: we spoke briefly with mr. trump for one article, and he said it is all an issue of shoddy work or incomplete work. he has sent a couple tweets pointing out that he won many of the lawsuits that we wrote more, when in fact -- won than he lost. he pushed back against the on the of our story contractual issues with small businesses and workers.

saying essentially that the only miss paid them when he does not like the work or it is incomplete. host: one more quick call. anne from north carolina. quick question, please. steve. just a comments, it has been six months since i have called in and you are one of my favorite posts. -- hosts. anyway, my point is a lot of these people [indiscernible] look what happened to the country went cheney [indiscernible] host: anne, unfortunately, there was a little breakup, but we got most of the background. president bush the only present with an mba guest: that is true. all we see the difference there is mr. trump would be coming directly from the business world

, so there is a difference in the track record we had to look after mr. trump than we have had to look at for other candidates who started in the business world and served in public office for a time and then ran for higher office. host: steve reilly, part of the investigative team at "usa today ." his work available online and in the papers. thank you very much for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. we continue to conversation at 7:00 p.m. eastern time, also. live on c-span radio. tomorrow morning, stephen shepard, who covers the campaign john, theico," and executive director of the sunlight foundation as we focus on transparency in government area that is tomorrow morning. "newsmakers" is next read to her for joining us on this sunday. enjoy the rest of your weekend and have a great -- is next. thank you for joining us on this sunday and enjoy the rest of your weekend. ♪

[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> next newsmakers with texas congressman kevin brady, chair of the ways and means committee. then fbi director james comey at a house hearing on why he recommended no charges be filed against hillary clinton concerning her use of a private serving while secretary of state. and president obama's statement concerning u.s. troop strength in afghanistan. >> the hard-fought 2016 primary season is over with historic conventions to follow. watch c-span as the delegates consider the nomination of the first woman ever to head a major

political party and the first non-politician in several decades. watch live on c-span. get video on demand at c-span.org. you have a front row seat to every minute of those conventions beginning monday, july 18. host: our guest on c-span's newsmakers this week is texas congressman kevin brady, chairman of the ways and means committee. thanks for coming back. representing the houston suburbs in a week where we are waking up to terrible news out of dallas. i want to introduce the reporters who cover congress. you have put out a statement about how this sickens you but this country is in such a state right now with the murders of black men by police