our oath of office to keep the american people safe. onn this rainbow is taking different colors. community, for lgbt the colors of all the pain people are feeling and all the do.gnition that we want to thomas was ready to sing into the wind, how many were people must die. must die? thank you all. >> tomorrow, house minority leader nancy pelosi speaks at the national governors summer meeting and

des moines, iowa. she will talk about the relationship between state and federal government. 2:00 p.m.ve that live eastern on c-span. c-span makes it easy to keep up with all the latest convention developments with the c-span radio app. available as a free download from the apple app store or google play. get audio coverage of every minute of the convention. as well as schedule information about important speeches and events. get c-span on the go with the c-span radio app. next, president obama's remarks on the terror attack in france. then indiana governor mike pence keynote speech at the 2015 cpac conference. after that, a debate on whether american conservatism is hostile to women. and later, a conversation with green party presidential candidate jill stein.

>> in remarks at the white house, president obama called the terror attack in france thickening and so the united states stands with the french people during this difficult time. and although no group has claimed responsibility for the incident, the president says isis will be defeated. the president spoke to members of the diplomatic corps attending receptions and their honor. this is about two minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. i had the opportunity to welcome all of you. we welcome all of you. each year the diplomatic corps comes so that we can say thank you for the partnership between our nations and our people and reaffirm our shared commitment to promoting security and peace

and human dignity around the world. obviously, we come here with heavier hearts than normal. overnight in nice, we witnessed another tragic and appalling attack on the freedom and peace that we cherish. today, our hearts are with the people of france and with all the innocent men, women, and if so many children who were hurt or killed in the sickening attack. this includes americans that we know of. a family from texas, a father and an 11-year-old son who were there on vacation. their family, like so many others are devastated. they are grieving. they need all the love and

support of our american families as they grapple with an are grapple with an unimaginable loss. and try to get through what are going to be very difficult days. on behalf of all of us, i want to welcome our friend, ambassador of france. i had a chance to meet with him before i came out so that he knew that it is not just the united states of america, but the entire world that stands in solidarity with the people of france. i spoke to the president earlier today and in addition to conveying deep condolences, i reminded him that france is america's oldest ally in one of our strongest. our freedom to each other.

americans and french have stood together for two centuries. i told the president that we will stand united now in our grief, and are praying for the many injured and fighting for their lives, and we pledge to stand with our french friends as him we defend our nation against will the scourge. this is a threat to all of us. we don't know all the details, but what we know is the capacity of even a single individual to do extra ordinary harm -- extraordinary harm to people and our way of life. a lot of nations have been impacted this year and in previous years. in recent weeks we have seen heinous attacks inspired or directed by isil here in the united states and turkey, iraq, bangladesh, saudi arabia. these terrorists are targeting and killing innocent people of

all backgrounds and all face including muslims. -- all faiths, including muslims. i know i speak for all those when i say these individuals and these networks are an affront to all of our community. -- humanity. many of the nations represented here today are part of our global coalition against isil and i want to take this opportunity to say once more, we will not be deterred. we will not relent. we will keep working together to prevent attacks and defend our homeland. we'll keep taking out as leaders in pushing heisel back -- isil back in syria and iraq. we will destroy this terrorist organization. in contrast to these terrorists who only know how to kill and destroy, we are going to win this fight by building. by never giving up on diplomacy. and the syrian civil war by working with partners around the

world, including the muslim communities. which back against hateful ideologies that twist and distort islam. religion that teaches peace and justice and compassion. we will defeat these ideologies by offering a better vision of development and economic progress. so people, especially young people have more hope and a opportunity and are less susceptible to extremism and violence in the first place. we will continue to promote political opportunity in democracies of citizens have the say in the future. we will win this fight by said that -- staying true to our values. values of pluralism, rule of law, diversity. and freedoms like the freedom of religion, freedom of speech and assembly, the very freedoms that the people of nice were celebrating last night on but still day -- bastille day.

in the wake of last night's attack, we have heard more suggestions that muslims in america be targeted, tested for their beliefs, some deported or jail. the very suggestion is repugnant an affront to everything we stand for as americans. we cannot give an to fear or turn on each other or sacrifice our way of life. we cannot let ourselves be divided by religion because that is exactly what the terrorists want. we should never do their work for them. here in the united states, our freedoms, including freedom of religion help keep a strong and safe and we have to be vigilant to defend our security and our freedoms. all of us, whatever nations we represent here, i think have to step back and reflect on what we are doing to eliminate this kind

of chronic violence. it has been a difficult several weeks here in the united states, but the divide that exists is not between races and ethnicities and religions, it is between people who recognized the common humanity of all people are willing to build institutions that promote that common humanity and those who do not. those who suggest that somebody is less than them because of their tribe or ethnicity or faith or color. those impulses exist in all our countries. those impulses, when we did not speak out against them and build

strong institutions to protect people from those impulses, they can take over. they can be unleashed. so that all of us have responsibilities, not just a few. want to say that even as we are relentless against terrorists, it is also worthy for us to recognize that a nations have worked together for security and peace and human dignity around the world. i want to think so many of your countries for the partnership we have forged, the progress we have achieved together with the past eight years. rescuing the global economy, securing vulnerable nuclear materials, and comprehensive deal to prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, halting the spread of ebola, in paris, the most ambitious agreement in history to fight

climate change, a new sustainable development set of goals to end extreme poverty and promote health and education equality for all people, including women, and through the efforts of many of you, we continue to try to move beyond hold complex. supporting the transition to democracy in burma, forging a new partnership in vietnam, deepening our new chapter of engagement with the cuban people. helping to support the efforts in columbia to end the decade-long conflict. that is the power of diplomacy. that is what is possible in our nation if our people work together in the spirit of mutual interest and respect. what a contrast to the nihilism that terrorists offer. what a powerful reminder to progress in opportunity and hope that we can advance when as

nations and people and individuals we refuse to be defined by our differences alone and remember that we are all part of one human race. even on difficult days like this, that is what gives me hope and that is what should give us hope. on this planet of more than 7 billion people, the hatred and violence are the few and it is ultimately no match for the love and decency and hard work of people of goodwill and compassion so long as we stand up for those values. so long as we answer those who would undermine those values. i'm very proud of the work we have done over the last 7.5 years in partnership with these countries so long as i have a privilege of being president of the united states, i will

continue to stand alongside you to promote those values all across the world. thank you very much, everybody. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> c-span's washington journal live every day with issues that impact you. coming up on saturday morning, washington post reporter at a people discussing national republican convention and mike

pence as donald trump spice presidential pick. in the efforts by delegates to separate themselves from voting for donald trump. craig coleman will talk about how political conventions are funded and the role of influence of lobbyists and corporation. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal beginning life at 7:00 eastern on saturday. join the discussion. >> republican presidential candidate donald trump has announced that indiana governor mike pence will be his eyes presidential running mate. he is in his first term as governor and served 12 years in house of representatives. last year he was the keynote speaker of the ronald reagan dinner. he discussed the upcoming presidential campaign. this is about 25 minutes. [applause]

>> thank you. thank you, john. thank you for the warm introduction. good evening to you all. it is an honor to be with you among such a large group of so many americans. men and women who represent the bulwark of the leadership of the conservative movement in the united states of america. i appreciate the kind introduction, but the introduction i prefer is a little shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative and republican. in that order. [applause] there's an old saying that when you see a box turtle on a fence post, you know one thing for sure. he did not get there on his own. that is true of my life.

other than my faith, my family, my beloved wife who is with me today and my fellow hoosiers, i rise tonight to pay a debt of gratitude to all of you. i have so much to cpac, to this movement, the namesake of this dinner for the inspiration and opportunities i have been given. it is good to be back at cpac. the premier conservative gathering and united states of america. [applause] we gather in 2015 in a downturn time -- challenging time. an administration paralyzed by ideology and incompetence has weakened america's place in the world. stifled our nation's economy. while the nations we -- challenges we face are daunting, but choices we make to meet them are not. 50 years ago, ronald reagan held to birth our movement with an

iconic time for choosing speech. today, i believe we have come to another time for choosing. you either choose to view america as a shining city on a hill that inspires the best in all mankind, or you don't. you either want america to stand by her friends and stand up to her enemies or you don't. you either are for limiting the power of the federal government or you're not. you're either for attacking the unborn and their religious liberty of every american or you aren't. [applause] as a tonight after winning both houses of congress, more statehouse of the never before, and ecting 31 republican governors in states like maryland and massachusetts and illinois, the american people have made their choice and we

are on the verge of a great american comeback. [applause] i believe that because i believe in this movement. my grandfather immigrated to this country from island. my dad build a gas station business in a small town in southern indiana. while i actually started in politics as a democrat, when i heard the voice of the 40th president of united states, it all changed for me. i live the dream of becoming a congressman from a small town now i serve as governor of the great state of indiana. [applause] i served 12 years in the congress and i love to say, if i only had 12 years left to live, i would like to live as a member of congress. that was the longest 12 years of my life. [laughter]

the truth is we have not had a government as good as her people in washington d c and some time. it is worse today than ever before. at home the heirs of this administration are almost too numerous to count. but it is the government takeover of health care or the internet, the president unconstitutional executive nst or the war on coal, -- amnesty or the war on coal, 13 our prosperity. -- thursday our prosperity. you cannot improve health care by ordering every american to order health care. that the internet to drive based on warranted and unjustifiable regulation. you cannot change the law of this land by executive fiat. you cannot build an energy policy by raising the cost of electricity on working americans. it should go without saying that obama care be repealed, the fcc must be reversed and the

president executive action rescinded and the epa's war on american energy must and. -- end. [applause] tonight, allow me to offer some advice. some advice to the rising generation of leaders. gathered here looking on from across the country, how we might confront the challenges we face with renewed focus at home and abroad. first, let me submit that 2015

could be the first for policy national election since 1980. and sadly, this administration hazardous our army to its smallest size since 1940. the navy has fewer ships and at any time since 1960. our air force has its smallest technical fighter force in history. history teaches that you cannot reduce our military strength without provoking our enemies. weakness arouses evil. as we speak, isis is setting up franchises across the middle east it is on the offensive are crossed the arab world. the president says jobs are the answer to violent jihad. mr. president, jihadi john does not want a job. he was into paradise and i think we should help them get their as quickly as possible. -- help him get there as quickly as possible. [applause] with the growing threat of homegrown terror, is important to remember that our first line of defense is the right of self-defense. now more than ever, the right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed on the american people. [applause]

but violent jihad is not the only threat. asia, china is massively expanding its military. just last month the pentagon admitted the chinese satellite and ballistic technology are rapidly approaching parity with our own. as we gather here tonight, and you are cooking is defending -- iron curtain it suspending down the line of europe. russia is expanded. unlike the former soviet union that respected the strength of the yes -- west, putin's russia ignores talk of sanctions, claims land and support rebels in ukraine. if we do not know enough about the threat we face from a your rent.

-- he ran, -- iran, was iran as by far the most significant security challenge facing the united states and its allies and interests in the middle east. in a few days, the leader of our most cherished ally will come to washington dc to warn congress and the american people of the gathering storm he believes will strike his country and present hours if we allow the world's most dangerous regime to obtain the world's most dangerous regime do it in the world was dangerous weapons. traveling to israel last december, i met with the premise to and his private quarters in on the very day the palestinian authorities try to force a settlement on israel through the united nations. it would have come from israel's security. -- compromised israel's security. i saw firsthand the result from a courageous leader. stands to often alone in times of great need. speaker boehner was right, to invite the prime minister netanyahu to address the congress at such a time as this, israel's causes our cause. israel's enemies are our

enemies. if the world does nothing else, let it know this, america stands with israel. [applause] the truth is, you cannot command the respect of the world when our friends. lecturing the american people about the crusades while refusing to call islamic extremism by name is an abdication of leadership. as president reagan taught us, peace comes through strength.

providing for the, defense for the united states is the chief responsibility of our national government. with everything happening in the world, i believe, my fellow conservatives, i believe it is imperative that conservatives again embrace america's it role as leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy. [applause] i believe the time has come to dramatically increase spending to confront the noble and unknowable threats of this kind -- center. without rebuilding the military, the strategy or innovation will be sufficient to protect the american people and the sovereignty of the united states. among other measures, we could provide future, systems of the army and marine corps, present production of the best and most advanced fighter aircraft of the world and rebuild the navy. a safer and more secure america is a stronger and more prosperous america. [applause] of course, our strength begins at home.

our families, communities, businesses and other states. second, let me suggest that our movement also put the promise of federalism and state-based reform back at the center of the conservative agenda the 21st century. [applause] as president reagan said, it is important to be reminded, and i quote, the federal government did not create the state, the state created the federal government. [applause] our states are not territorial outpost of the federal government. they are the wellspring of the vitality and reform. i should know, i come from a state that works. [applause] in indiana we balance budgets and have a aaa rating. that is better than washington dc. we passed the largest a cash card -- tax cut in history. with the largest about to program in america. i'm proud to say indiana was the first day to withdraw from

common core and a miss the shifting sands -- amidst the shifting sands of content right we oftenporary law , without apology for the sanctity of life and the importance of marriage and the freedom of religion. [applause] it is working. in our first two years in office, unemployment has dropped from over 8% to 5.8%. we have seen a hundred thousand new private sector jobs created and last year we led the nation in manufacturing jobs created. graduation rates are up, test scores are up and life is winning in indiana. abortion is in the kind -- decline for the fifth straight year in a row. [applause] i did not come here to brag about indiana. well i didn't just come here to brag about indiana.

[laughter] i came to encourage you. encourage each of you here today with the progress being made in indiana and other republican led states and urge you as leaders and activists in this movement to take encouragement from the successful results that conservative policies are achieving a state across the country. after 12 years in congress, and two years as governor, i'm more convinced that the cure for what ails this country will come more from our nation state capitals than it ever will from our nations capital. [applause] let's put state-based innovation reform back at the center of our national agenda. let's look at the example of republican led states balancing budgets and crafting solutions to the most intractable nations. that includes getting runaway federal spending under control. when it comes to most public assistance programs, states are

simply better equipped to innovate and manage in the poverty programs in a fiscally responsible way. states can't print money. during my years in congress, i honestly never recall anyone focusing on revenue forecast when we passed a spending bill. but indiana where we have a balanced budget, this year's budget will only be completed when we get the final revenue forecast to make sure the income meets the outgo. states are better equipped to innovate and reform was antiquated programs. in indiana, we and a traditional -- ended traditional medicaid for all able-bodied adults and replaced it with consumer driven health care and health savings accounts. [applause] we've expanded access to health care doctor government mandates and taxes, but their market-based reforms grounded in personal responsibility and self reliance. on education because we believe that all honest work is honorable, indiana is crafting plans to be the first state in

america to make career and vocational education a priority in every high school in our state again. [applause] but the power of the states with renewed flex ability. let's give each other room as a movement to try new ideas and innovate without rejecting policies that break new round. in fact let's wean ourselves off the washington centered notion that every problem must nd an answer in our nation's capitol. some say the next nominee of our party should be a governor. i'm certainly sympathetic to that view. but all kidding aside. what i can tell you that i'm looking for is not somebody who says send me to washington, d.c. and i will run our nation's capitol the way i ran the state capital. for those who served in the

city, you know washington, d.c. . not a state literally or figuratively. i'm listening for somebody who says let me go to washington dc that will make it more possible for the next person running my state to run it with more freedom and more flexibility, that is the constitutional way. [applause] when we win back the white house and re-elect a republican to congress, let's make it our aim to permanently reduce the size and scope of the federal government by restoring the states the freedom, flexibility, and resources that are theirs under the constitution of the united states of america. [applause] finally, as we strive to be the party of solutions home and abroad, let's be relentlessly positive. i said for years that i'm a conservative, not in a bad mood about it. we need to be cheerful partisans. happy warriors. lord knows we need a little

optimism these days. i was reminded of that not long ago at the indiana state fair. a man walked up to me, a great conservative older gentleman with sad eyes and a weary look about him. he approached me to say that he we rted everything that stand for and then he asked me, governor, do you think the country is going to make it? he had all the telltale signs of excessive cable television viewing. [laughter] . i put my hand on his shoulder and i said, of course you're going to make it. we are americans. we always make it. we always find a way. [applause] but that man and millions like him are worried, understandably, about the country in our future because of the failings of our national government. our national government does

have all kinds of problems and flaws and weaknesses. let's remember, america is not the american government. let's talk confusing the american government with the american people. ronald reagan said it best. we are a people with a government, not the other way around. [applause] . i learned that lesson a long time ago. back when indianapolis was hosting all of the living recipients of the medal of honor. we were dedicating our memorial to all of those great men throughout history. i was a talk radio show host at the time. i had the privilege of interviewing those heroes, one named jack lucas. he was born in 1928 in north carolina. he was in the marine corps. at the age of 14. he was so determined to join combat that he stowed away on the u.s.s. dual to join the marine division as they went to

the south pacific. he turned 17 at sea, just a few days before landing at iwo jima. on the day following the landing, he was crawling through a ravine with three men and his rifle team and two enemy hand grenades landed nearby. the teenager used his own body to cover both hand grenades and saved his fellow marines despite suffering horrible injuries. in october 1945, jack lucas was awarded the medal of honor by president harry truman. [applause] i had him on the radio show and during the interview, we talked about his experiences. we explaininged plea sanitaries. he spoke with remarkable humility about his extraordinary courage. i asked him a question. i said, you're part of the greatest generation. so you probably are worried

about this country when you see young people these days. well, in that moment, jack's countenance changed. that old soldier looked at me and said, son, you obviously don't have the first idea what you're talking about. i laughed nervously, this was live radio. i said why don't you enlighten me and he did. jack said let me tell you something. he said growing up back in the 1930's, we didn't have any more sense than kids these days. we wasted just as much time. we partied just as much. but when the time came, we stepped up because we're americans. and kids these days will do just the same thing. [applause] as we say, i've been told, i

didn't know how right he was until a few years later. on a sunny morning in september of 2001. that day i found myself in my first term as a member of congress. on capitol hill. sirens blaring in every direction. columns of mud brown smoke billowing from the pentagon. in the next day, there were lines outside every recruiting station in every city and town across this nation. nd jack was right. the years that followed, my trips downrange to visit the soldiers in afghanistan and iraq, i saw the sacrifices of the new greatest generation. just like jack said, stepped up and did what needed to be done. i say with conviction tonight,

the american people today, despite all the failings of our national government, the american people today are every bit as strong and patriotic and generous and selfless and resilient and freedom loving as they have ever been throughout the great history of this great nation. [applause] our nation deserves leaders of our party and this movement. they believe in the american people with an unshakeable faith. faith is my final point. we are not in this alone. the bible says where the spirit of the lord is, there is liberty. when we hold the banner of liberty high, and we take up the cause of freedom at home and abroad, i believe with all of my heart we make his cause on this earth our very own. and we do not fight alone.

so my fellow conservatives, let's be confident and let's have faith, faith in america's unique responsibility in the world and in the founder's vision of limited and constitutional government, faith in the boundless capacity of the american people, especially in our states to craft solutions to the flex problems that are facing us. faith in him who set this miracle of democracy on these shores, that he will fulfill his promise for his last, best hope for earth. we have come to another time thor choosing and i believe with all my heart, with your help, and with god's help, once again, america will choose freedom. thank you and god bless you. [applause]

>> republican presidential candidate donald trump hold a news conference tomorrow with his vice presidential selection governor mike pence of indiana. we will have that live on c-span at 11:00 a.m. eastern. and now we talk about the g.o.p. convention in cleveland and preparations to get the ity ready. >> people will tell you they have a working for this for 10 years. it's been a real process. it's a fundamental thing that a city needs to be able to provide it is hosting an event like this, just have the capacity to handle it. cleveland thought the political conventions in the past, they came maybe, if they were unsuccessful in 2008 and they

told them at the time they lacked the requisite hotel rooms they needed. you need to have at least 16,000 hotel rooms. nearby venues that people have places to go before and after the session. and other than that, the big factor is fundraising. and just been able to local communities are structured to pay for these things to some degree. the big someone walking 2008 was the number of hotel rooms close to the convention. what they have done since then, they put a convention center hotel, the county government used a sales tax hiking to pay for it. this will be the first major event it will host. that was the big one. in july 2014, they got a phone call shortly, since then it has been accelerating some of the public works projects in effect. one of the things you'll see is that there's a public square downtown which is like a public park that is made into more of a park than it used to be.

there has been a lot of road repaving, some run-of-the-mill things to make it look nice. there is a conventional economy that follows convention as they go from town to town. there have been consultantses here for months trying to basically getrestaurants on board, broker events. think free lot of, unless -- a lot of the places downtown are ready. it's hard to really know what to expect until it actually gets here. a big part has been trying to recruit the raw number of police officers to get here. they have been very secretive about that. it's difficult to ascertain exactly how that has proceeded. there are obvious signs where they have a hard time getting

police to do it. some of that is getting blown out because a lot of the intrigue that surroundings it. they're having trouble meeting some of the early numbers they're trying to reach. it seems that it's kind of quieted down. we think they'll be all right. it would be one of those things where at the end of the day, people may not even notice that it was an issue, but it was a challenge for them. they have been recruiting officers, training officers to be ready for it. they have been spending a federal grant they received $50 million on equipment and vehicles, personal protective equipment, basically riot gear and medical supplies and things like that. we had a lawsuit here that was filed by the aclu on behalf of some of the groups that plan to be here that was basically resolved at this point, but we expect that there is going to be a number of groups that are going to be following an official parade route, quote unquote parade that proceeds past downtown past the cleveland indians ballpark.

other than that, it's hard to know because there are always estimates of how many protesters are going to show up. you don't know how they arrive. there are signs there is interest in this year's election, the presumptive nominee is controversial. cleveland is an easy spot to get to, in tampa in 2012, it's in the corner of america. i expect there will be a robust presence. there are people set up in a couple of the parks downtown, cleveland has said that there is no barriers to people if they want to approach the actual physical security perimeter itself. we could see just people throughout the streets, but again, i guess we'll find out when it comes. the cavs had a victory parade that brought about a million people downtown. things were backed up and closed down. compared to that, it might not be so bad. one of the big things that will be nice with that, we have a ail system here. backed up with the cavs parade

should be up and running. i expect people will be taking public transsi. people will be avoiding downtown. there is a citywide street parking ban. arages might be repurposes for access and trucks. people because of cleveland's reputation or maybe a lack of a reputation, they don't really think they're going to see much when they get here. what is cool about cleveland, it offers a walkable urban lifestyle in a relatively smaller. a lot of good restaurants and bars are near the convention space. people will be impressed. cleveland is a pretty fun place. >> the republican national convention starts monday. listen live on the free c-span radio app. it's easy to download from the apple store or google play.

watch live on on demand anytime at c-span.com, on your desk top, phone, or tablet, where you'll find all of our convention coverage and the full convention schedule. follow us on espn on twitter and like us on facebook. don't miss a minute of the 2016 national convention starting monday at 1:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, the c-span radio app nd c-span.org. before next week's national convention, this weekend, c-span's city's tour along with our charter communications cable partners will explore the history and legal air life of cleveland, ohio. on book tv, we will talk with author john grabowski as we talk about his book cleveland, a history in motion. we will visit the cleveland public library and explore the

languageston hughes collection related to him while he lived in cleveland. >> it was at central that he developed his love of writing and he was introduced to the work of carl sandburg and walt whitman through his teacher, composed nd he also a poem while there that's kind of famous. we'll tour the crawford auto aviation museum with curator of transportation derek moore and hear why cleveland was nicknamed motor city before detroit. >> the key location was on lake erie, one of the great lakes,

great shipping routes. we had the railroad in the area so a lot of railroad shipping routes to be taken. the steel industry was here and there was a lot of lumber in this area. it just kind of all came together. >> this weekend, watch c-span's ities tour to cleveland. the c-span cities tour, working with our cable affiliate visiting cities across the country. now a debate on whether american conservativetism is hostile to women. political commentators ann coulter and sally kohn and janus adams discuss politics, race, women's rights and the presidential candidates.

washington post columnist moderates the debate which was held at the comedy cellar in the village underground in new york city. this is about two hours. >> good evening, everyone. welcome to the debate. tonight is being recorded and broadcasted by c-span. ake extra noise. [cheers and applause] >> please welcome your moderator pulitzer prize winning columnist for the washington post. kathleen parker! [applause] >> thank you very much. i'm sorry, i have to correct you on that, i'm sally jesse rafael. i want to say that in addition to being columnist, i'm a comedian. when i got the call, you could imagine how excited i was. i can't believe this. the word is out. he raced over and says, mom

what is going on. i'm going to moderate this panel. he said, mom, don't try to be funny. i have to try because i am funny. he said, mom, your humor is not exactly cutting edge. i wanted to get that out there tonight. for that scorching, soul crushing sendoff, i would been funny tonight. we have some funny people with us. i don't have to be funny. we have some great women here. i'm so impressed with their resumes. [applause] >> i'm going to introduce them all individually and let them make an opening statement. first of all, in front of every one of these women just insert the word award winning, best, and gorgeous.

not simply beautiful, they're gorgeous. first we have, we have a lot of books among these women. the blonde lady on the end, you may recognize her. [applause] author ann coulter. she has written a disgustingly 11 books and is about to come out with another, am i right? ann: yes, you are. kathleen: in trump we trust. well, that's interesting. we will come back. and next to ann coulter we have dr. carol swain. [applause] kathleen: she is the author of six books and about to come out

with yet another. that title will be what. carol: i think it's abduction, mething about exposing secular, soul and minds of the children. e keep going back and forth. kathleen: you got to work on the title. she is a political science and law professor at vanderbilt university. they are upset with her. they had issued a press lease saying we have nothing to do with this woman. she says unpopular things, speaks her mind. and when she speaks her mind, they correct the record. over here on my immediate right, a person. 11 books.

dr. janus adams, 11 books here, ok. [applause] >> zero. you know, i did not approve this introduction. nn will write the title. >> she is birthing a book. >> ok, let's get right to the women's reproduction right away. dr. adams is an amazing person. she has done everything in the world. she was' reporter way back when before most of you were born and did a amazing. not saying she is old. she's experienced like me. d we have sally kohn who you

know apparently. she doesn't write any books. she is one of the top most 100 most influential pundits on television. that is cool. 'm not in there. and then the advocate named her 35th most influential lgbt person in the media. what you have to do to get 34? >> to be clear, the 35th most influential lbgt person. if we were going by gayest, i would like to think i rank a lot higher. [laughter] >> the topic, conservatism hostile towards women. important in the context of the current presidential election. we have an actual woman running. [applause]

>> and we have an actual woman hater running against her. but i'm going to let ann coulter correct me on that record. we'll start with her statement first. ann: well, i'm not really prepared to discuss women i know nothing about. i have noticed that the republican party is the party, the only of the two-party that treats women as human beings and not as a vagina on a stick. for example, women care about e economy and care about terrorism and they don't have to run special ads. you don't see the democratic party running on help men get a prostate exam. the democratic party acknowledges that men are smart enough to get a prostate doctor. they call up a doctor and they can't do it. figure out they have to get it ome other way.

this is apparently very big to democrats. we are vaginas on a stick. one of the things i love about donald trump is not just with regard to women, but regard to gay, blacks, he does not play identity politics. he does not speak to blacks as blacks or mexicans as mexicans other than he loves hispanics, my favorite tweet of his of all, he makes fun of identity politics. what he does say, i prefer to have audiences boo me or love me, but for the first time, i kind of hate my own party, the republican party watching their reaction to donald trump which -- i think always we suspected that the republicans like the democrats only care about the rich and

only care about wall street. i did notice until donald trump ran, he comes around and says i'm going to care about americans first, not blacks, hispanics, gays, americans. working class middle class. i'm bringing the jobs home. i'm pressuring your jobs, your neighborhoods, i'm building a wall. why, because i'm going to put your interests first. and he is the first presidential candidate of ike's party to make hedge fund managers pay the same rate as the rest of you. why is that? he is the first one speaking for americans and forget the democrats, i always knew they ere for wall street. republicans know this is the new trumpan party. they do care about women, blacks, hispanics, they just don't divide you up and do this value canization of others. that's my opening statement. cheers and applause]

>> so your answer is no. ok. i also wanted to ask you each as part of your opening statement to say whether you're pro life or pro choice not just that we're vaginas on a stick, but reproductive rights are certainly a part of what many people in this country feel is , the ith conservatism republican party platform is pro life and think that is best for the country and you'd by ny women as hostile to the reproductive rights. >> the single demographic group that most favors abortion rights of are single men between the ages of 18-30.

being pro-abortion is not being pro-woman, it is being pro-liberty man. i'm pro-life. >> i'm not taking sides are. ok. >> i am pro-life. i have not always been pro life. i was pro-choice most of my life and i believe that women need information so they can make informed choices and that information should include the option of keeping a baby and so whether we are on a college campus or somewhere else, they eed options as well. also believe that clinic inspections are in the interest f women and their lives. you would not have had no sales if there had not been clinic inspections. i don't think you can be pro-woman and stand in opposition to commonsense regulation. >> thank you for that.

would you give your thoughts about the question, do you feel to women? vativetism >> absolutely not. i have a statement that i have ritten, i can say why. it isn't hostile to women. i think progressivism is hostile towards women. >> we will come back to that. would you like to give your opening statement? >> since ann so vehemently threw down the gauntlet, i would just say that what i so admired about the republican party is they want to have hands-on government between a woman's leg. i'll just leave it there but that is not my opening

statement. my opening statement is that not only am i old enough to but interviewed mark twain i actually covered the watergate hearings, so that puts a little shading on it. i honestly, even though we are having a good time, i just feel in terms of my opening that i an't ignore the day on which we are holding this event. this is the day that dallas has commemorated its fallen in the president and ex-president have eloquently commemorated all of the fallen, not just the five. i think it is important and from that level of

consciousness, as i thought about how i was going to present for myself today, i was really thinking and then i'll move on after that. i was really thinking about when i counted it up, between , e five police officers and ing and mr. sterling there are 10 children grieving this week. 10 children who have nothing to do, don't understand the argument. here's a four-year-old who saw the man she called daddy shot to death. why i would like to be having fun and i do want to have fun with this, let's face it, trump is a joke. at the same point i would like

to keep in mind the sanctity of what is happening this week. i would say that when i think about it as a woman or as a black person or as who i am, which is both, i am one of the children who was in primary school desegregation. at 8 years old, i was taken out of the all black school and put into the all white school right here in new york city where we do not talk about this level of intense bigotry in our country. e were the pioneers, the minority, the northern de facto. after that i have done all what one does in terms of desegregation. i also have the privilege of being one of the first as a

woman. we don't think about it and we should. this is not a woman's right conversation or a gay-rights conversation or a black rights conversation, this is a human rights conversation. the united states is egregious violations of human rights, a ot of the things that happen here, where they happen elsewhere, we talk about state sponsored terrorism. we think we have to invade, they would be revving us up and saber rattling but it's happening here. i think at a certain point we have to bring myth and reality together. and because of this issue of dual consciousness, i'm ever smack of march 31, 1776 dab in the revolution. who makes the comment, abigail

adams. so it's nothing new. we know it and we have had a long time to get to be better than we have. thank you. kathleen: thank you so much, janus. [applause] athleen: and now sally cohn. it's conservatism hostile against women? why do we care? >> i'm a human being and contrary to what you have heard on the internet, a woman. [laughter] some of you are like, let me going the fact check that. let me make three general responses what ann and carol alluded to. i do think that this isn't just about what is better for women, what is better for black

people, what is better for queer people,, it is about, we are all focusing on what is better for everyone. the problem with the politics for too long it has focused on what is good for an elite few. i do believe as a whole that liberalism, progressism, democratic politics have been better for all people. more than half of whom happen to be women. we created twice as many jobs since 1976 in this country nder democrats presidents. gdp has been high. personal wealth is higher. all measures, it is better for all people when we have a democratic president or progressive president. now, that being said, i want to challenge the point that the democrats are the only one talking about identity politics. that is not true.

that is a misrepresentation of -- that borders on a smear or even a down right lie. the fact of the matter is that republicans have for several generations been practicing identity politics. they have been practicing identity politics vis-a-vis white men. if you do not think donald trump is explicitly building his campaign on a white male identity politics, then i don't think you're paying attention. [applause] as far as i can see, the identity politics of the democratic party is actually how can we make sure everyone is included in the political project. yes, in order to get there, you have to name those that are being left out. it's different than saying they should be ahead. you are talking about making the country better for

everyone. the last thing i would say, it's interesting that you said you not written about identity politics for women. it was you who wrote back in college that conservatives have a difficult time with women. so do you. i want you to know, i completely agree. [laughter] >> well, it's been awhile when you have to go back to when i was 18. >> i didn't think it was that long ago. >> there was an article about pornography which i'm not a fan of. it was a socially conservative .rticle can i respond? that is just a smear, the same smear we hear about he have single republican, white male, white male, it's a white male. can you please move on from that. you have beaten the horse to death. the horse is dead.

we have to drag the horse out of the room. and i did not say republicans play, they do play and he does -- unlike people hillary clinton who pays the women in her office less than she pays the men, truth trump has always run female-heavy organizations. he is as far as i know the first person to make women foreman in the probably in new york. the women are struggling. they're not asking for a handout. they're not asking how do i get an abortion? they wanted to be treated the same as a man. they happen to be better than men all the time. who is the one person that says i'm going to give you a chance and make you a foreman. they love donald trump. what i love about trump is

in his attacks, which are very funny, i think he has achieved some sort of platonic ideal of nondiscrimination. he will attack someone with a disability the same like you are attack someone without a disability. mexicans are the one coming over illegally, he will attack mexican rapists come across the order. you can imagine him appoint age hindu woman being as the secretary defense if that's the best person for the job. he will pick all white males if those are the best people for the job. he does not care and i love that about him. to say that he is practicing identity politics is just the same old playbook that we have heard every four years against every republican. the party of les,

theocracy and tax cuts, not trump. >> ok, thank you, ann. do we still have to buy your book? ann, i do want to ask you. i agree with you completely. the idea that women are only, s you put it, vaginas on sticks. it becomes tiring to talk about this issue. and century after century. >> republicans just trying to undercut. >> i was about to say, how do you explain, republicans in fact do, as janus said so delicately, seems to be dopely concerned with women's reproductive organs. >> i like to get my statement. something i will address. >> let's hear it. the >> me too. i'm a huge fan of the

professor's. if you haven't read his stuff, you should. >> honestly, i am i professor and i have a statement here. i would ask to prepare a statement. i did not read my e-mail. the question, is american conservatism hostile to women? my response, absolutely not. i believe conservatism uplifts and empowers women by giving them the support and information they need to make informed choices for themselves and their families. when i was first invited to appear at a comedy club, i didn't know if i was supposed to be it. maybe i am it, but i really appreciate this opportunity to talk about important issues and this is an important issue and i hope that we will keep it erious throughout.

i think humor and laughter is good. the bible says it is good for the human soul. and knowledge and information is good. it is true. so i sand before you or sit before you as a black woman who was born and raised in rural poverty. i was one of 12. i dropped out of school after completing the eighth grade. i married at 16, had my first child at 17 and then i earned a high school equivalency. went to community college and got the first of five degrees. [cheers and applause] and i worked while i was in college and graduated from a four-year college magnum cum laude and i went to princeton as my first job. i earned early tenure and now teach at vanderbilt.

i think my education, knowledge qualifies me to speak to a lot of these issues. i was a democrat for most of my life. i am a person that has had an abortion. i got an abortion in my early 0's. it had just become legal and at the time i was married. i discussed it with my husband and we decided, i was going to get my way and i did get my way. i got the abortion. i don't believe i would have done that had it not been legal. at that time, i was so young and immature that i assumed if something was legal it was ok. but as soon as i got the abortion, i immediately had guilt. in fact, to a second extent that i actually got pregnant on urpose to have a child and i miscarried and i never had a live birth after that

miscarriage. the information about the consequences of abortion are having difficult carrying a subsequent child to term is one of the side effects that people need to know about. i am now a christian conservative. in 2009, president bush appointed me to two positions i started endent and hanging out with republicans like ann and eventually i was converted to the republican party and part of that had to do with the fact thats a par, i always told my students that it was important for blacks in parties, blacks have power and you need someone at the table. i realized that i wasn't willing to do that and i wasn't sure why i wasn't willing to do it. at some point i decided that i

was going to bite the bullet and join the republican party so that to the extent that reforms can be made, i wanted to make it within the party, i also didn't want to tell people to do something i wasn't willing to do. as a conservative, i have not found that life has been possible to me except the hostility that comes from progressive. i found out that once i had my children conversion experience, when i became a republican, my life had changed. i had been on the fast track, but after that, things began to change. i have found that conservatives have been a close encouragement and support even while i was a democrat, conservative values and principals uplifting in women by reminding them that they are unique beings created in the image of god and not

random accidents. [applause] >> develop attitudes and behaviors conducive to success exercising morals and individual restraint. it energied them to develop the attitudes and behaviors and practices conducive to a happy life. just to be a ot victim who must depend on the government and do getters to liberty them. hard work, vision and a belief in the american dream or factors and my success and have been factors in the success of many other people. conservatism has not been hostile to me as a black woman. conservatives like liberal women are not monolithic as you can see. they share many of the same goals and aspirations as

liberal women. conservative women are committed to the tenets and belief that we want to associate with classical liberalism which is associated with conservativism. individual freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of association. we believe in limited government. responsibility and udeo-christian values. some conservatives who are who may not believe in this. the ones i know best believe in judeo-christian values as being important to our nation. if you look at the republican party, the republican party, the abolition of slavery, integration. equal rights for women and lacks. t has been conservatives who depend -- defend the rule of law, the free market system and

chool choice for the poor. it was the republicans of republican women, first women to be elected for congress in 1916. 1915, republican who fought for women's suffrage. republicans had the first black in congress. the leadership and support of the civil rights act of the 1960's. on the other hand, progressives of the democratic party have a history of embracing policies that disempower and marginalized ethnic minorities. progressivism has a dark history that many people are unaware of his routes have been fascist and always embraced arwinian eugenics. we see that played out today in the policies with planned

harnthood and the willingness f the supreme court justice. ruth bader ginsburg to confess to a new york times reporter that roe versus wade was decided because of a need to control population growth and populations that we don't want o many of. what is progressivism, the contradictions. the same person who believes in unrestricted abortion convince the death penalty for terrorists, serial killers and -- the same person who sent hild to private school opposed vouchers and the children have choice where to go to school. the same liberal who say they are for women and their rights re opposed to common sense

legislation my clinic inspections that would have demanded them from operating undetected for so many years. they oppose conform consent, hort waiting periods and the information that women need to know about to abort a possible child. >> ok. i don't want to interrupt her. finish this up. we do have to get to debating. let's calm down, everybody. >> i was told to prepare a statement that was under the impression that i would have at east 10 minutes. >> no one likes to hear it! >> let me keep going, please. >> let's come back to it, we

want to move the conversation forward. >> no, this is important. ll right, finish it. >> let her speak. >> given women though information they need to protect themselves from harm. crisis centers, the help they offer women should be among the information given to women. liberal a of rape, policies part of the civil act right of the 1960's. >> this is not a debate. as a moderator, i feel that i have to get this moving. you have made some excellent points and i think they will be part of the conversation going forward. thank you for that. i agree with your point. nasmuch as, women are always

asked to talk about what women issues are and so we all have the same concerns. n fact, most, not all women, are not in favor of abortion. that's your opinion, ok. not tolerant of conservative women point of view when it differs from what is considered right for all women. that is determined by liberals and the democratic party. >> i disagree with that. not that i disagree with the point of view, which i do. it is i disagree with the imposition of this point of view. >> fairpoint. >> i listen to carol and, what

is being characterized as facts is just, could fill a fiction library. i want to speak straightaway to the issue because. the whole issue of school is very important to me. it is personal. as well i'm a mother and a grandmother. that's my point of view on that. you say something about people who send their children to private schools, not wanting dodgers for people who can't afford it. it is because i sent my children to private school that i know that a $3000 voucher will not cover in $18,000 tuition. t is because i sent, i spent not only trying to live, but

taken the time to read brown versus education, which is omething we should do. what it does is that it says that it is only for public schools. to try and say that we can do at private schools and then they will have a counter, what we are saying is opposed to come and i do think, i sent my daughters to private schools, it is because i did that and made that choice and people can come at me and said how could ou send your. to private school when you were out there, a quality education, access to quality education. t has nothing to do with

public or private or it should not have anything to do with public or private. >> i don't want you to feel like you can't jump in. >>, would to address the issue of reproductive freedom. i'm not going to discriminate characterization. but there are some on both sides of the debate who are not as respectful of the other perspective as they should be. i hope we can all do. -- agreed. i would like to be able to respect -- but is all to be able to respect your position opposing abortion and other ike you to respect my in favor of choice. my issue, to build on, when we do not allow them when the party that is supposedly for personal responsibility and imited government does not allow women to make these choices.

et me be clear, i would be super happy if we could stop talking about reproductive freedom and birth control. i would be thrilled. unfortunately, republicans in congress, their first pieces of legislation introduced, the irst term in congress, was five antiabortion bills. they voted eight times to defund planned parenthood. his week they introduced a bill, a bill being debated that would make it, send an player, who does not support, marriage

out of wedlock him he can fire an employee for that. if you are hotel or lobby and don't want to rent placing them on, you don't have to. this is not us bringing this up. this is us defending basic freedom and choice which i thought republican stood for. [applause] > one other thing. to your point about the republican party. let's stop this nonsense about the republican party been a party of lincoln. it has not been the party of lincoln since the party of roosevelt. [applause] let's be honest to that fact. it has completely flipped. the reporting party, the party of lincoln has black people were the first elected congress

people and up until the mid-1970's, there were more black people in congress in that era post-civil war than the modern era. that is not the party of lincoln. the party of lincoln is more like what was a progressive institution. that is what it was. n contrast, the party of goldwater sink in the conservative party i think at a certain point, we have to ask the question, don't want to hear anymore spin, what is it that republicans want to conserve? >> our country as donald trump says. >> we have our country and it is doing well. >> don't know if it is doing ell. >> this idea that we are the

ones imposing on you, when people to stop talking about bortion. i happen to not think abortion is a federal issue, but this decision of roe v wade made it constitutional right, onflict. the states can decide, they will try to take that away bit by bit and called impositions, the imposition of chinese brainwashing we can be kept classified. you are in for a surprise. the country is more like the ones that drove gays off buildings. the country that started

slavery still in trade slavery and did not fight a war in which 600,000 white men died to preserve the article that all you have no idea women of america. a second.ay -- wait i love this country. did somebody say no, you don't? that is outrageous. what isisagree about best for the country and still love the country. we support women so don't even go there. that is beyond best. likesponding, don't act i'm responded. i was responding. she wants to say something.

i defer to sally. >> the answer is not, i never said that. that is not an answer. >> i never said that. i'm not responded. to ask a question. ? until the 1980's, the supreme court did not think the second amendment applied to the individual right to bear arms. advocated for this. that toious if you find be an imposition in the same way as roe v wade. as far as abortion and asroductive rights, as long more black babies are reported

in new york city than are born alive, that would be an issue that people like me would care about. to parties comes flipping sides, they did not flip. the democratic party is a party -- if republicans were poor -- were pushing democrats on blacks -- abortions on blacks the weight democrats are, it would be called genocide. kathleen: excuse me, i am going to interrupt. abortion is a very emotional, divisive issue, and we can't ever agree on the side. it would be very lovely if it

-- i am sick of it, and i would like it to be removed from the republican party platform. i was speaking on a panel with a room full of mostly republican men, and when i made that statement -- >> [inaudible] i am going to take that very personally. [applause] she switched, ok? kathleen: everybody wondered how i would be doing this, but i am going to finish my sentence. we can't reach a consensus here tonight. so let's move on. sally: can i just say? kathleen: one last word. to repeat not going it because i don't want the soundbite, but let's be clear, i don't want black women, white

women, and latina women dying in back alley abortions. i want them to have the freedom to make sure it is about their own bodies and their own choices. without any --d, -- he way [indiscernible] i would have aborted my baby if i had actually known that government can't be trusted to make good decisions for people. be trusted to make good decisions for people. kathleen: moving on. let's get back to the presidential election and how the question applies to that. like to ask ann coulter be solain how she can much in favor of donald trump, given the comments he has made

about women and two women that are -- and to women that are not politically incorrect, they are just rude, and they suggest a misogynistic bent. you know him, and i don't, so maybe you could explain to women why they would vote for him. really only know him for that fantastic mexican rapist speech. that won my heart and i have never gone back. go back to things, which i am sure the democrats will be doing, every time he came on the -- rd stern show if he was not planning on running for president, he is an entertainer. i love him as an entertainer, he is extremely funny. if you have not been to one of his rallies, i sometimes introduce him. you have to experience it.

him aswho watches opposed to translating him understands that he says it with a wink rather than a snarl. he is like mohammed ali talking about how pretty he is. uhammad ali talking about how pretty he is. of fact that audiences 30,000 people burst out laughing when he talks about his will, and obviously these were jokes he was making, but i think he also makes an important point that he was not running for president all this time. it's funny how they always say they want somebody who is not a politician to run for president. we thought it was a bad idea until donald trump. i like that we see him unfiltered, and also, he may have changed his positions on .ome things, like abortion the pro-life movement is trying

to change people's minds, i don't have any problem with that. ago, when he was going on with rude comments about women that were funny, someone say -- >> they aren't. kathleen: anyway -- has anyway, it's that he always cared about the working class. always, always, always. his rich friends on fifth avenue not really liking him, and the people he really gets along with our the working class. -- rew up this letter is very impressive. sitesw up on construction . it is very appealing. he talks like a regular guy. he has always cared for the

working class first. may be policies he says he will change his mind on, but that is the platform he is running on, somebody who cares about americans first, and immigration is a huge part of that. the american people have been asking congress to do something about immigration. i never saw any evidence of this until i read marco rubio's immigration bill. whose jobs are for the most? -- are hurt the most? who gets hurt the most by dumping lots of low-wage workers on the country? it is the black community. let me tell you, there are going to be a lot of construction jobs under trump. build bridges, and it's going to be great. i lovewhy i love trump,

him for his policies, and i have gotten a committed to the personality. kathleen: he is entertaining, for sure. [laughter] kathleen: sally, do you have a response? sally: yes, yes i do. i don't know where to start, but the thing that is jarring is the fact that we are doing this today. we are making light of this, and it is not funny. donald trump is not funny. i don't want a president is funny. [laughter] [applause] by the way, i have a seven-year-old daughter, and i don't want a president to i have to say, no, no, you can't say what the president said. you can't make that joke, that's offensive, that's not ok, right? that's a nonstarter. number one. number two, i'm sorry, but i love how you say the working

people love donald trump because he says he loves them. he also says the mexicans love them. they don't. i don't know what mexicans you have been hanging out with, but the others do not. she wants her wages to go up. sally: let's talk about wages. i am so glad you brought that up. you are right, the republican cup -- the republican party created donald trump by not acting comprehensive immigration reform, which they once supported but decide they would act out on. and number two, let's be clear about this. is that working class people in this country and low-wage workers in this country are not getting sufficient wages, which i don't agree with, then why not support -- which i agree with, then why not support

raising the minimum wage? by the way, donald trump said the minimum wage is too high and needs to be lowered. i don't understand the friend of the working class thing. he not only wants to lower the minimum wage, but ship his own jobs overseas. [applause] it is the law of supply and demand. dump more and more low-wage workers in the country, a creates fewer jobs, fewer jobs . we will get a machine to do that. even with the minimum wage in australia and new zealand is? -- do you know what the minimum wage in australia and new zealand is? $15 an hour. why? because they control immigration. when $15 an hour is the minimum wage, we can start ringing and more immigrant workers.

kathleen: let's turn the tables of it and give hillary clinton -- a bit and give hillary clinton sometime. she is the woman running for president. we are going to be serious. hillary clinton is considered the champion of women, no? to this side. i'm pretty sure you agree with that. but why is she considered the women's choice? just because she is a woman? what is it that she brings to the table that would be good for were to become president? how will she change things for women? >> i'm already tired of this conversation, because i don't think she is the salvation for

women in all of that, but i do think that when you have a candidate who has been first lady, a senator, and a secretary of state, that she has a few more attributes than just being the woman candidate. [applause] janus: therefore, when i look at her career, when i look at her as a woman, the work that she has done which everybody knows she did, her outreach and the work that she tried to do even not running for president, but what she tried to do for children and working families with children, that was always an important part of her platform. theher or not she is the all and end all of women, for heavens sakes, how many men have we had? i think it is time. i would not vote for certain

women because they were women, but i would vote for that woman because she is a woman. i would not vote for hillary just because she is a woman. by the way, i was a sanders supporter in the primary. i am coming around all stop -- coming around. we do know that senator sanders agrees with hillary clinton 90% of the time. if the reason i support her, you want to talk about it from a feminine lands, it is not just because she is a woman, but the significance of that is astonishing. eight islamic nations have elected female heads of state, and we haven't. [applause] that she islso

strongly pro-choice. she is the first presidential candidate who said she would eliminate the hyde amendment, which would prohibit federal money going to reproductive rights. leave.ports paid family we are one of the only developed nations that does not have paid leave for men and women. these are basic things. national healthcare, universal health care, access to college education. it's what she would do for women, not just being a woman. janus: i support being respectful of people and not the meeting people -- not the meaning people in considering it a joke because they are female ng people and considering it a joke because they are female, and not making jokes about women's bodies. donald trump, i don't like his brand of humor.

[applause] when we talk about the civil rights era, and it should ,e called the human rights era people like mine whose families -- i should say this, my family was republican, and many black in the north,not republican, because we were are -- we were considering ourselves a block against the southern dixiecrat's. it was a different republican party at that time. republicans, and unfortunately, if we ask olympia snowe and lincoln chafee and other republicans why they are no longer in congress, we may

have an idea of republicans who are being pushed aside by this kind of fact. -- kind of act. there was that memoir on the republican war against women. ann: the republican war on women. have you ever heard of tanya mitchell? kathleen: she was involved in republican politics. ann: sen. sanders: you can forget -- ann: you can forget her. [applause] but i was going to say something about the war on women . carol: you are not going to ask us about hillary? kathleen: i'm sorry, go ahead.

i want to thank his group over here forhis group over keeping it simple. -- civil. [applause] kathleen: go ahead. we shouldon't think vote for any candidate just because they happen to be black or a woman. we should be thinking of the best-qualified candidate. nationcase of where our stands today, with some much chaos and the breakdown of the rule of law that we have seen with the obama administration, and we have hillary clinton with a history of lies, lies, more indicted,should be why would we want to elect a president that shows no respect for the public rule of law and will apparently say anything to get the votes of various groups? i think she and the democrats

manipulate blacks and use blacks when they have power. when it comes to donald trump, i intend to support him, because i like his stance against political correctness. he is good on the issues that a lot of americans care about. right now, there are very few people who are willing to stand up and push back against the destruction of america. i think america is being destroyed, headed in the wrong direction, and there are few people on the horizon that are willing to speak truth, and i think he does speak truth, and i that few people are qualified to lead, and i am going to support donald trump, and i would never under any circumstances support a democrat. i don't see how any christian could. i am a christian -- [applause] [groans]

kathleen: that's provocative. ann: i want to say something about hillary. there is nothing you can say against trump that we have to go back to the poverty of -- the party of barry goldwater. i am so glad it is not sanders that trump is running against. sanders would have been so much tougher. he talks like trump. i would say he is like trump in the sense that he is bound by the democratic party, but he used to be like trump, very concerned with immigration. we have to stop dumping low-wage workers on the countries, i care about low-wage workers, and we have to get their wages up, as did jesse jackson, cesar chavez. the, they realized, oh,

illegals have anchor babies that are voting for us. we really care about the working class. but not only do i think sanders would be much tougher for trump, because both of them care about the working class, even if you the-- even if your dream is first female president, it is so sad that you have to vote hillary. he is saying's -- she could say something that she believed when she was 10 years old and the audience could change her mind. she is not only an opportunist, but a bad opportunist. she got everything she got because of who she was married to. she was the first lady of arkansas. she was the first lady of the country. we are not talking about claire mccaskill. we are not talking about dianne feinstein. can you name their husbands? no, you can't. how did hillary get to run for senator of new york, which is

basically an appointed position? there are all these democrats waiting in the wings to become senator of new york. were just told, step aside, hillary is wanting -- hillary is running. the democrats step aside, she runs, and she beats rick blas io. and secretary of state is an appointed position. we would not even know her name as it was not for what her husband did. run dianne feinstein, run claire mccaskill. they are strong women in the democratic party. hillary is not one of them. [applause] on that note, i am sally -- et

sally: [indiscernible] kathleen: i want you to go first, because i think we need to resolve this hillary question. it, neither donald trump nor hillary clinton has a good record when it comes to -- ann: absolutely false. hillary is a liar, trump is a bs'er. he said he called 1000 people when he calls one. sally: saying i never sent classified documents through e-mails, that's a lie. -- ann: saying i never sent classified documents through e-mails, that's a lie. to go with theng

fbi. i am going to go with the 60,000 pages of documents and eight hearings that republicans held on benghazi, but republicans still love to bring it up, thinking she did something wrong, even though their own committees found that she didn't. do i think hillary clinton is perfect? no i don't. do i think donald trump is entertaining? i did at first, before he got frightening. but you did refer the qualifications and actual experience, so it is interesting to me that you would support donald trump. i can't even trust him to send live tweets. i will say this about hillary clinton. [indiscernible] sally: i think you should keep doing that.

trump nail polish, keep on going. hillary clinton's approval are significantly greater whenever she is actually in a job. when she is running for office, suddenly she sucks. she sucks as a candidate. she actually does a damn good job of delivering. [indistinguishable conversation. ] ann: the entire middle east is blowing up because of what hillary did. obama had to be dragged into that monstrosity. it was 100%ls, hillary pushing, "we've got to go into libya."

janus: it is one thing to be fallacious. ann: how am i being fallacious? [indiscernible] janus: that is not a fact. your benghazi characterization is not a fact, and i will not spend more time on it. ann: i will spend time on it. the country blew up. that is a fact. anus callingo john me a name. janus: i said your characterization is fallacious, i did not call you a name. ann: why is it fallacious? it was right to take out gaddafi. we know from the e-mails that obama was against it. ares: are you sure you talking about e-mails, or are you just conflating at? ann: i am talking about the country of bolivia and what we know about hillary clinton as secretary of state.

whate country of libya and we know about hillary clinton as secretary of state. janus: your president got us into all these wars in the first place. [applause] ann: by the way, those wars were -- those wars were supported by hillary clinton, not donald trump. whoa, whoa. just want to do one serious thing about donald trump, for those of us who are new yorkers and really no donald trump. doll tropic is a man who took full-page ads in the new york times -- donald trump is a man who took full-page ads in the new york times take castigate the central park boys who everybody knew were innocent.

kathleen: this is getting a little off track. janus: that is donald trump. donald trump is also the one who has not only maligned women, but -- by talking about what went on this week. myself and other people in this room, we like to talk about the black community as monolithic. we are not. i am not saying that as a joke. dr. swain is a woman of achievement, we just disagree. [applause] janus: i am not trying to do anything underhanded, and i don't want to take in that way. when i am saying is, as a woman, i know what it means to be shot at by the police.

police, andby the that's as a journalist. i know it means to not live in four black neighborhoods, but five years as a homeowner in greenwich, years in westport, years in connecticut, and to have the police stop all of my guests. i know what that means. i know what it means to have my guests dragged out of the car and forced to the ground, because he is trying to find an the police decide they can have a little fun. i don't want to treat it all as a joke, because it is not. ,athleen: ok, it's not a joke and i want to take a minute to these wonderful women for their contributions to the conversation, and it is not over yet.

i do want to give you all a chance to ask questions if they respectful.d janus: [indiscernible] kathleen: i think your hand when up first. i see one here as well. ok, this lady here in the front row. >> hi, everybody. and i am alauren, -- iesswoman, and i work have been working my whole entire life with my husband. i just want to know -- and i am not going to tell you who i am voting for -- but i want to understand how you can wrap your head around this whole entire thing we have with hilla