on it. this is their idea. budget, no pay. this is their idea. budget.'t have a no budget. thank you. weeks. in a few the secret is not coming in there. >> that's what i said. we had last night -- i had on dallas, bluerom and yellow. that i have when i went to with the president. we had the three. we had these for orlando. the orange shirt that we had on the steps of the 91 people who died. we had -- wear red for -- when girls are kidnapped by boko haram. we have all of these colors. some mean violence. so many colors.

it is just stunning that we have to elevate our conversations in way that are worthy of the american people and worthy of responsibilities to the world and the very least we can do ise very least we can to say that we will have the for guns andecks ownly no buy in our country. keep theour and american people safe. hopefully -- even the rainbow is taking on different colors. lgbt the rainbow for the community, but it has the orange all of theors of pain that people are feeling and all of the recognition that we want to do. know, i almost was ready float in the wind. must die?eople

how many more people must die? thank you all. >> thank you. have a good break. today house minority leader speaks at the national governor association summer meeting in des moines, iowa. about thek relationship between the state and federal government. p.m.will be live at 2:00 eastern on c-span. c-span makes it easy for you to keep up with all of the latest convention development the c-span radio app. available as a pre-download from googlele app store or play. get audio coverage of every minute of the convention as well schedule information about important speeches and events. get c-span on the go with the

c-span radio app. in remarks at the white house, president obama called in niece, attack france sickening. he says the united states stands with the french people during the difficult time. no group has claimed responsibility, but the isis will bes defeated. there was a reception in their honor. this is about ten minutes. president obama: good afternoon, everyone. i have the opportunity to greet each person. all of you. diplomatic core comes so that we can say thank you between the partnership theeen our nations and peoples and reassure the

commitment to promoting security human dignity around the world. come here with heavier hearts than normal. nice, we witnessed another tragic and appalling attack on the freedom and the cherish.t we hearts are with the people in france and all of the women, and so many killedn who were hurt or in the sickening attack. -- this includes americans that we know of. a family from texas. a father and young son, 11 years -- onho were there orphan vacation. their family, like so many devastated.

they are grieving, and they will support to get through the upcoming days. that's our role in france. i had a chance to meet with him so thatfore i came out we knew it is not just the theed states of america but entire world that stands in solidarity with the people of france during the difficult time. hollandeo president earlier today. i reminded him france is our ally and one of the strongest. we owe our freedom to each other. have stoodnd french

together for two centuries. told president hollande we'll stand together now. there are grief for many whom are still injured and fighting lives.ir we pledge to stand with the defend thend as we nations against the scourge of terrorism and violence. us. is a threat to all of we don't know all of the details. capacity of is the individual to do extraordinary harm to our people and our way of life. lot of nations represent and have been impacted this year and previous years. the recent weeks we've seen bynous attacks inspired directed by isil here in the anded states and in turkey saudind bangladesh and

arabia. killing targeting and innocent people in all --kgrounds, including gnus muslims. i know i speak for all of us these individuals are the humanity. of many of the nations are part of the global coalition against isil. to take the opportunity to say we will not be deferred. we're going to work together. we're going to keep taking out isil leaders and pushing isil and iraq.ria we're going to keep standing with our partners from africa to afghanistan. going to destroy the vile terrorists organization. contrast with the terrorists who only know how to kill and to win the're going fight by building. by never giving up on diplomacy syrian civil war.

by working with partners around muslimld, including communities to push back against ideology that twist and islam, a religion that teaches peace and justice and compassion. we will have offer economic progress so that people, haveially young people, more hope and opportunity and to less susceptible extremism and violence. we will continue to promote andtical opportunity democracy so citizens have a say in their future. we will win this fight by staying true to our values. values of pluralism and rule of freedomsiversity and ,ike the freedom of religion freedom of speech and assembly, thevery freedoms that

people of nice were celebrating night on bastille day. in the wake of last night's attack we have heard more about muslims in america getting targeted, tested for their beliefs and jailed, and the suggestion is repugnant for everything that we stand for as americans. to fear orive in turn on each other or sacrifice our way of life. we cannot let ourselves be divided by religion. that's exactly what the terrorists want. should never do their work for them. here in united states our freedoms, including freedom of us stronghelp keep and safe. we have to be vigilant and defend our security and our freedoms. and all of us, whatever nations think havet here, i to step back and reflect on what are doing to eliminate this

violence.ronic has been a difficult several states,re in the united exists isvide that not between races and religions, it is between people who recognize the of all peopley are willing to build institutions that promote that common humanity, and those who do not. that who would suggest somebody is less than them because of their tribe or faith or their color. and those impulses exist in all countries. those impulses -- when we do not speech out against them and

build strong institutions to people from those impulses, they can take over. unleased.e so that all of us have responsibilities. not just a few. weant to say that even as are rerentless against worthysts, it is also for us to recognize that our forons have worked together security and peace and human dignity around the world. many of yournk so countries for the partnerships that we've forged and the that we've achieved together over the past eight years in rescuing the global securing vulnerable nuclear materials, comprehensive deal to prevent iran from nuclear weapon, ebola, and spread of

an environment to fight climate change, we want to end and promoterty health and education and equality for all people, including women. and through the efforts of many you, we've continued to try to move beyond old conflict, the transition to democracy in burma, forging a new partnership in vietnam, deepening the new chapter with engagement with cuban people, helping to support the efforts the decade'snd long conflict. that's the power of diplomacy. what's possible in the nations and the peoples work together in the spirit of mutual and mutual respect. depth andtrast to the nihilism that terrorists offer. the a powerful reminder of

that we can make as nations. as nations and individuals we refused to be defined by our differences alone. we are all part of one human race. even on difficult days like me hope.gives it should give us all hope. of more than seven billion people, the hatred and violence of a few is no match decency and and hard work with people of longill and compassion so as we stand up for those values and so long as we answer those would undermine those values. very proud of the work that we've done over the last seven partnershipsars in with your countries. so long as i have the privilege of being president of the united

states, i will continue to stand alongside you to promote those all across the world. thank you very much, everybody. [applause] [applause] it easy for you to keep up with all of the latest convention development app.the c-span radio available as a free download from the apple app store or google play. get audio coverage of every minute of the convention as well aboutedule information

important speeches and events. get c-span on the go with the radio app. debate on whether hostile conservatism is to women. cohen as well as carol adams discuss the s.men's right moderates the debate. this is about two hours. >> good morning. welcome tonight. being recorded and broadcastedd by -- by c san. make extra noise. now please welcome your moderator and pulitzer prize

columnist for "the post," cathy parker. >> thank you. to say i'm sally. in addition to being a columnist, i am a comedian. excited iagine how was. i called my son. you are not going to believe this, john. is out. so he raced over right away. he says, mom, what's really going on? said i'm going to moderate the panel. he said, uh-huh. said, mom, don't try to be funny. don't have to. john, i am funny. notaid, mom, your human is exactly cutting edge. thereed to get that out tonight. not for that supporting, soul-crushing send off, i would

have been funny. >> do it anyway. funny peopleme with us. i don't have to be funny. we have great women withs. impressed. -- in front of just insert award winning, best, gorgeous. they are not simply beautiful, they are gorgeous. first we have -- also we have a of folks among these women. theave the blond lady on end. you may recognize her. author and editor, she has

written 11 books, best sellers of them, and she's about to come out with another. yes, you are. okay. trust.p we [applause] >> well, that's interesting. okay. back.come have dr.to ann we carol swain. the author of six books. that title to be what? exposing theut the plan and the souls and minds of children. we keep going back and forth. just say abduction. she's also a political

science and law professor, vanderbilt university at the moment is upset. sayingsue press releases we have nothing to do with the women. things andpular feeds her mind. when they feel it is necessary, the record they have nothing to do with the free-thinking stuff. over here on my immediate right is -- >> but your left. >> but your left. i can never do that. they must have a mirror out there. tannis -- okay. 11 books here. okay? 11 -- how many? 7? 11? 0? you know, i did not approve this introduction. it is okay. i'll have one out -- will write the title.

>> nobody knows it. okay. a book. birthing >> birthing a book. >> okay. let's get right to women's reproduction right away. dr. adams is an amazing person. she's done everything in the world. a reporter before most of you were born. not to mean she's old, she's experienced like me. okay? whew. sorry. cohen who youally know apparently. she doesn't write any books. [applause] commentator -- wait, i have to read this. media named her top 100 influential pundits on television. that's cool. because i'm not in there. the advocates name her lgbtmost influential person in the media.

i'm wondering, what do you have get 34? >> i would like you to see it is influential lgbt going byf we were just days, i would like to think i rank a lot higher. >> you may have heard it is conservative that's hostile toward women. this is important in the contend of the presidential election, we have a women running. you may have heard of her. [applause] a women hater running against her. i'm going to let ann coulter correct me. to discussprepared women whom i know nothing about and i've never written about. republicanced the party is the only of the two treats women as human

onngs and not as a vagina sticks and thinks that, for example, women care about the and care about terrorism and, you know, they don't have ads.n special you don't see the democratic party running on how will we get a prostate exam? why? because the democratic party men are smarthat enough to figure out how to get exam.tate if they call up the doctor and he can't do it, they can figure out another way. is apparently very big with the democrats and appeals to women because again we are vaginas on sticks. things i love about trump not just regard to gays and blacks, he does not identity politics. he does not speak to blacks as loves toher than he

say -- my favorite tweet of his of all he makes fun of identity politics. what he does say -- i prefer to audiences boo me or love me. i promise i'm not sucking up to us. for the first time i kind of party, the republican party, watching the reaction to donald trump which i always --->> you had them. i secretly suspected that the republicans like the democrats only care about the rich and care about wall street. i didn't know it until donald trump ran. trump comes along and says i'm not going to care about america blacks, hispanics, working middle class. i'm protecting you and your job and jr. neighborhood. a wall.ding why? because i'm going to put your interest first. firstd add he's the

presidential candidate of either going to make hedge fund managers pay the same of you.the rest why is that? he's the first one speaking for americans. forget the democrats. i always do. they were from wall street. the newans know this is trumpian party. they care about the blacks and hispanics. they don't just divide you up openinghe -- that's my statement. >> okay. so your answer is no. no. okay. to ask you each as statementur opening to say if you are pro-life or we'reoice, not just that sticks, but

reproductive rights is what many people feel is wrong with conservatives. the republican platform has described as the pro-life position and think that's best country is viewed as theiromen as hostile to reproductive rights. let's just clear the air with that. the single democratic group okay with abortion rights is and 30.en between 18 being pro-abortion is not being beingmen, it is pro-liberty and man. i am pro-life. i'm -- i write a political opinion column. sides here.ng you know what? mike. mike. hi, mike. okay. please. >> i am pro-life. i've not always been pro-life. i was pro-choice most of my life. and i believe that women need informed -- they need so they can make informed choices. should includen

the option of keeping a baby. want to call it on campus or some place else they need it, that's an option as well. i believe that clinic inspections are in the interest of women in their lives. not have had kermit goshell if there were clinic infections. --on't think how you can be >> thank you for the explanation attacked about pro-life. would you give your thoughts about the question? isyou feel like conservative hostile to women? >> i'm getting away from my statement. no, absolutely not. i have a statement, you know, that i've been asked to write why i believe it isn't hostile to women. progressivism is hostile

towards women. >> okay. all right. that.come back to would you like to give your opening statement? >> wow. since ann so vehemently threw gauntlet, i would say the republican party wants the hand of government between a women's legs. i'll just leave it there. [applause] openingis not my statement. my opening statement that not only am i old enough to have, ed mark twainerview -- but i actually covered one that put a little shading on it. honestly -- even

though we're having a good time i just feel in terms of my opening that i can't ignore the holding the we're event. that this is the day when dallas its fallen andd the president and ex-president eloquently commemorated all of the fallen, not just the five. and i think that it is important of consciousness as ii really wanted -- thought about how i was going to present for myself today, i was really thinking and then i'll move on after that. i was really thinking about when counted it up. five police officers thurgood and mr. sterling and

approaches, there are potential women grieving, women nothing to do that don't understand the 4-year-old daddy shot she calls to death in front of her eyes. i would like to be up and have fun, i want to have fun this, let's face it from support the idea to the actty ofof what happened this week. a blacknk about it as woman or a black person which i one ofch is both, i am forchildren that was

desegregation. i was going to school here in new york where we segregation and after that, i have done all that one does in terms of desegregation but i also had the privilege of doing a lot of -- because we do not think about it and we should. this is not a woman's rights conversation or gay-rights conversation or black rights conversation. this is a human rights conversation. states is breaching human rights. a lot of things that happened here, where they to happen elsewhere we would be talking

about state-sponsored terrorism. we would be saying we have got to invade. but it is happening here. gatherng reality to and i will say by saying this issue of dual consciousness, i'm of march 31, 1776. the comment, abigail adams. nothing new. this. a long time to get >> thank you. [applause] and sally. it's conservatism hostile against women talk to -- against

women? >> yes. i'm a human being. some of you are like, let me google fact that. make three general response. i do think that this isn't just about what is better for women, what is better for black people, what is better for queer people,, it is about, we are all focusing on what is better for everyone. the album the politics is it has not focused on what is good for just a few. whole, thata liberalism, progressivism, democratic politics, have been better for all people.

more than half of whom happen to be women. we accreted twice as many jobs since 1970 600 democratic -- gdp has been high. personal wealth hire. measures, it is better for all people. when we have a democratic or progressive president. now, that being said, i want to challenge the point that the democrats are the only one talking about identity politics. that is not true. that is a misrepresentation of orders of a lie. back to the matter is that for several generations. they been practicing identity topics of white men. if you do not think donald trump building his

campaign on a white male identity politics, then i don't make your pain attention. -- paying attention. [applause] as far as i can see, the identity politics of the democratic party is actually how can we make sure everyone is included in the political project are to get there, you have to name those were being left out that it's ever be -- and say this to be ahead. it'sast thing i would say, interesting that you said you not written about identity politics for women. it was you who wrote back in college that conservatives have a difficult time with women. i wanted to know, i completely agree. -- want you to know, i completely agree. [laughter] >> have to go back to when i was 18. >> i don't think it was that

long. >> an article about pornography. which i was not a fan of. i do think, that is just a smear that we hear about every single american -- republican. can you move on from that. ? the horse is dead. i do not the republicans don't play it, they do. donald trump does not play. he does not look at people as .fricans clinton, she pays

[laughter] -- donald trump has always renting the heavy organization. in the first person to make women, women struggling not asking for a handout. they just want-- to be treated the same as a man. and they happen to be better than men sometimes and was the person that says i will give you a chance, i will make you? do they love donald trump it what i love about donald trump is included in his attacks which are very funny, i think he has achieved some sort of atomic ideal of non--- platonic ideal of nondiscrimination. he will attack someone with a disability the same like you are attack someone without a disability. mexicans are the one coming over illegally, he will attack mexican rapists come across the

border. you can imagine him taking a hindu woman that is the best person. if those are the best people for the job, all-white male. he does not care and i love that about him. to say that he is practicing identity politics is just the same old playbook that we have heard every four years against every republican. where white males. the party of theocracy and tax cuts, not trump. >> ok. thank you. we still have to buy your book. >> i agree with you completely, the idea that women are only .hina's -- vaginas it becomes tiring to talk about this issue. and century after century.

>> republicans just trying to undercut. explain rubble republicans -- how do you who seem toblicans be deeply concerned with women reproductive organs? >> i like to get my statement. something i will address. >> me too. >> my last book. i'm a professor. i have a statement here. awould ask to prepare statement. i did not read my e-mail. americanion, is conservatism hostile to women? my response, absolutely not. i believe conservatism uplifts and empowers women by giving them the support and information

they need to make informed choices for themselves and their families. invited tofirst appear at a comedy club, i was not sure if i was supposed to be it, but i appreciate this opportunity to talk about important issues and this is an important issue and i hope we will keep expressing this throughout. i think humor and laughter is good. the bible says it is good for the human soul. and information is good. it is true. so, i said before you as a black woman was born and raised in poverty, one of 12, dropped out of school after completing his great, i married at 16, had my

first child at 17 and then i heard a high school diploma, went to committee college and got the first of five degrees. [applause] and i worked while i was in college and graduated from a four-year college magnum cum asde and i went to princeton my first job. i earned early tenure and now teach at vanderbilt. i think my education, knowledge the to a lot of issues. i was a democrat for most of my life. i am a person that has had an abortion. i got an abortion in my early 20's. it had just become legal it at the time i was married. i discussed it with my husband and we decided, i was good to get my way and i did get my way. i got the abortion.

i don't believe i would have done that had it not been legal. i was so young and immature that i assumed if something was legal it was ok. but as soon as i got the abortion, i merely had guilt -- immediately had guilt. purpose tognant on have a child that miscarried and never had a live birth after that miscarriage. theinformation about consequences of abortion are having difficulty during a subsequent child to term is one of the side effects people need to know about. conservativeistian -- now a christian conservative. me toent bush appointed position as an independent and i

started hanging out with ourblicans and eventually converted to the republican party and tone of that had to do it as a professor at the my students it was important for blacks to be in both political parties. that blacks were going to have to powers. i realized that if i was not willing to do that, i was not sure why, but at some point i decided that i was going to bite the bullet and joined the republican party to the extent that reforms needed to be made. i wanted to make it within the party and the knowledge to tell people that it is nothing i was not going to do. conservative, i have not found that life has been hostile to me except for the hostility that comes from progressive.

once i had my christian conversion, once i became a republican, my whole world changed. until then, i had been on the fast track. i had been successful. after that, they began to change. i have found that conservatives have been a close of -- support even while i was a democrat. the principles of what men and women by remanded them that they are unique, created in the image of god. not random acts. [applause] >> thank you. >> develop attitudes and behaviors conducive to success exercising morals and individual restraint. considers them -- develop behaviors conducive to a happy life. be arages when not just to victim who must attend the

government to liberate them, hard work, vision and a belief in the american dream or factors and my success and have been factors in the success of many other people. conservatism has not been possible to me as a black woman. womenvatives like liberal . sameshare many of the goals and aspirations as liberal women. conservative women are committed wetennis and believe that want to associate with classical liberalism which is associated with conservatism. individual freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of association. we believe in limited government. responsibility and judeo-christian values.

some conservatives who are who may not believe in this. the ones i know best believe in judeo-christian values as being important to our nation. if you look at the republican , the, the republican party abolition of slavery, integration. equal rights for women and blacks. it has been conservatives who depend -- defend the rule of law, the free market system and the choice for the poor. republicans of republican women, first women to be elected for congress in 1915, republican who fought for women's suffrage. republicans had the first black in congress. the leadership and support of the civil rights act of the 1960's. on the other hand, progressives

of the democratic party have a history of embracing policies that disempower and marginalized ethnic minorities. historyivism has a dark that many people are unaware of his routes have been fascist and always embraced darwinian eugenics. we see the plane out today in the policies with planned parenthood and the willingness of the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg to confess to a new york times reporter that roe versus wade was decided because of a need to control population growth and populations that we don't want to many of.

what is progressivism, the contradictions. the same person who believes in unrestricted abortion convince the death penalty for terrorists, serial killers and -- the same person who sent child to private school opposed by dodgers and choice. the same liberal who say they are for women and their rights are opposed to common sense legislation my clinic inspections that would have demanded them from operating undetected for so many years. they oppose conform consent, thet waiting periods and information that women need to know about to abort a possible child. >> ok. i don't want to interrupt her.

finish this up. we do have to get to debating. let's come down, everybody. >> i was told to prepare a statement that was under the impression that i would have at least 10 minutes. it!o one likes to hear >> i think we -- >> this is important. >> let her speak. thoughn women information they need to protect themselves from harm. crisis centers, the help they offer women should be among the information given to women. break, -- rape,

liberal policies,. >> this is not a debate. as a moderator, i feel that i have to get this moving. you have made some excellent points and i think they will be part of the conversation going forward. thank you for that. with your point. are always, women asked to talk about what women issues are and so we all have the same concerns. women,, most, not all are not in favor of women in the field that is good for women. not tolerant of conservative

women point of view when it differs from what is considered right for all women. that is by liberals. >> i disagree with that. about a disagree with the point of view, which i do. it is i disagree with the imposition of this point of view. >> fairpoint. and, whatn to carol is being characterized as facts is just, could fill a fiction library. want to speak straightaway to the issue because. the whole issue of school is very important to me. it is personal. as well as come the mother, a grandmother to my women do.

view. you say something about people you say something about people who send their children to private schools, not wanting dodgers for people who can't afford it. it is because i sent my children to private school that i know that a $3000 voucher will not cover in $18,000 tuition. sent, i spenti not only trying to live, but taken the time to read brown versus education, which is something we should do. what it does is that it says that it is only for public schools. to try and say that we can do at private schools and then they will have a counter, what we are saying is opposed to come and i , i sent my daughters to

because ihools, it is did that and made that choice and people can come at me and said how could you send your. to private school when you were out a quality education, access to quality education. publicnothing to do with or private or it should not have anything to do with public or private. >> i don't want you to feel like you can't jump in. >>, would to address the issue of reproductive freedom. i'm not going to discriminate characterization. but there are some on both sides of the debate who are not as respectful of the other

perspective as they should be. i hope we can all do. -- agreed. i would like to be able to respect -- but is all to be able to respect your position opposing abortion and other like you to respect my in favor of choice. on, when we build do not allow them when the party that is supposedly for personal responsibility and limited government does not allow women to make these choices. i would belear, super happy if we could stop about reproductive freedom and birth control. i would be thrilled. republicans in

congress, their first pieces of legislation introduced, the first term in congress, was five antiabortion bills. to defund eight times planned parenthood. this week they introduced a bill, a bill being debated that would make it, send an player, who does not support, marriage out of wedlock him he can fire an employee for that. if you are hotel or lobby and don't want to rent placing them on, you don't have to. this is not us bringing this up. this is us defending basic freedom and choice which i thought republican stood for. [applause] >> one other thing.

to your point about the public and party. let's stop this nonsense about the republican party been a party of lincoln. it has not been the party of lincoln since the party of roosevelt. [applause] let's be honest to that fact. it has completely flipped. the reporting party, the party people wereas black the first elected congress thele and up until mid-1970's, there were more black people in congress in that era post-civil war than the modern era. that is not the party of lincoln. is morety of lincoln like what was a progressive institution. that is what it was. in contrast, the party of goldwater sink in the conservative party i think at a certain point, we have to ask the question, don't want to hear

anymore spin, what is it that republicans want to conserve? >> our country as donald trump says. >> we have our country and it is doing well. >> don't know if it is doing well. this idea that we are the ones imposing on you, when people to stop talking about abortion. [indiscernible] i happen to not think abortion is a federal issue, but this decision of roe v wade made it a constitutional right, conflict. the states can decide, they will

try to take that away bit by bit and called impositions, the imposition of chinese brainwashing [indiscernible] we can be kept classified. you are in for a surprise. the country is more like ones that drove days off buildings. [indiscernible] the country that started slavery and did trade slavery not fight a war in which 600,000 white men died to preserve the article that all men are equal. this constant running down of this country, you have no idea how good you have it, women of america. i love this country.

>did someone just say no you don't? we can disagree. that is offensive! we support women. don't even go there. that is beyond best. likesponding, don't act i'm responded. i was responding. she wants to say something. i defer to sally. >> the answer is not, i never said that. that is not an answer. >> i never said that. i'm not responded. to ask a question. ? until the 1980's, the supreme court did not think the second

amendment applied to the individual right to bear arms. advocated for this. that toious if you find be an imposition in the same way as roe v wade. as far as abortion and asroductive rights, as long more black babies are reported in new york city than are born alive, that would be an issue that people like me would care about. to parties comes flipping sides, they did not flip. the democratic party is a party -- if republicans were poor -- were pushing democrats on blacks -- abortions on blacks the weight democrats are, it would be called genocide.

kathleen: excuse me, i am going to interrupt. abortion is a very emotional, divisive issue, and we can't ever agree on the side. it would be very lovely if it -- i am sick of it, and i would like it to be removed from the republican party platform. i was speaking on a panel with a room full of mostly republican men, and when i made that statement -- >> [inaudible] i am going to take that very personally. [applause] she switched, ok?

kathleen: everybody wondered how i would be doing this, but i am going to finish my sentence. we can't reach a consensus here tonight. so let's move on. sally: can i just say? kathleen: one last word. to repeat not going it because i don't want the soundbite, but let's be clear, i don't want black women, white women, and latina women dying in back alley abortions. i want them to have the freedom to make sure it is about their own bodies and their own choices. without any --d, -- he way [indiscernible] i would have aborted my baby if i had actually known that

government can't be trusted to make good decisions for people. be trusted to make good decisions for people. kathleen: moving on. let's get back to the presidential election and how the question applies to that. like to ask ann coulter be solain how she can much in favor of donald trump, given the comments he has made about women and two women that are -- and to women that are not politically incorrect, they are just rude, and they suggest a misogynistic bent. you know him, and i don't, so maybe you could explain to women why they would vote for him. really only know him for that fantastic mexican rapist speech. that won my heart and i have never gone back.

go back to things, which i am sure the democrats will be doing, every time he came on the -- rd stern show if he was not planning on running for president, he is an entertainer. i love him as an entertainer, he is extremely funny. if you have not been to one of his rallies, i sometimes introduce him. you have to experience it. him aswho watches opposed to translating him understands that he says it with a wink rather than a snarl. he is like mohammed ali talking about how pretty he is. uhammad ali talking about how pretty he is. of fact that audiences

30,000 people burst out laughing when he talks about his will, and obviously these were jokes he was making, but i think he also makes an important point that he was not running for president all this time. it's funny how they always say they want somebody who is not a politician to run for president. we thought it was a bad idea until donald trump. i like that we see him unfiltered, and also, he may have changed his positions on .ome things, like abortion the pro-life movement is trying to change people's minds, i don't have any problem with that. ago, when he was going on with rude comments about women that were funny, someone say -- >> they aren't. kathleen: anyway -- has anyway, it's that he always cared about the working class. always, always, always.

his rich friends on fifth avenue not really liking him, and the people he really gets along with our the working class. -- rew up this letter is very impressive. sitesw up on construction . it is very appealing. he talks like a regular guy. he has always cared for the working class first. may be policies he says he will change his mind on, but that is the platform he is running on, somebody who cares about americans first, and immigration is a huge part of that. the american people have been asking congress to do something about immigration.

i never saw any evidence of this until i read marco rubio's immigration bill. whose jobs are for the most? -- are hurt the most? who gets hurt the most by dumping lots of low-wage workers on the country? it is the black community. let me tell you, there are going to be a lot of construction jobs under trump. build bridges, and it's going to be great. i lovewhy i love trump, him for his policies, and i have gotten a committed to the personality. kathleen: he is entertaining, for sure. [laughter] kathleen: sally, do you have a response? sally: yes, yes i do. i don't know where to start, but the thing that is jarring is the fact that we are doing this

today. we are making light of this, and it is not funny. donald trump is not funny. i don't want a president is funny. [laughter] [applause] by the way, i have a seven-year-old daughter, and i don't want a president to i have to say, no, no, you can't say what the president said. you can't make that joke, that's offensive, that's not ok, right? that's a nonstarter. number one. number two, i'm sorry, but i love how you say the working people love donald trump because he says he loves them. he also says the mexicans love them. they don't. i don't know what mexicans you have been hanging out with, but the others do not. she wants her wages to go up. sally: let's talk about wages. i am so glad you brought that up. you are right, the republican cup -- the republican party

created donald trump by not acting comprehensive immigration reform, which they once supported but decide they would act out on. and number two, let's be clear about this. is that working class people in this country and low-wage workers in this country are not getting sufficient wages, which i don't agree with, then why not support -- which i agree with, then why not support raising the minimum wage? by the way, donald trump said the minimum wage is too high and needs to be lowered. i don't understand the friend of the working class thing. he not only wants to lower the minimum wage, but ship his own jobs overseas. [applause] it is the law of supply and demand. dump more and more low-wage workers in the country, a creates fewer jobs, fewer jobs

. we will get a machine to do that. even with the minimum wage in australia and new zealand is? -- do you know what the minimum wage in australia and new zealand is? $15 an hour. why? because they control immigration. when $15 an hour is the minimum wage, we can start ringing and more immigrant workers. kathleen: let's turn the tables of it and give hillary clinton -- a bit and give hillary clinton sometime. she is the woman running for president. we are going to be serious. hillary clinton is considered the chamon of women, no?

to this side. i'm pretty sure you agree with that. but why is she considered the women's choice? just because she is a woman? what is it that she brings to the table that would be good for were to become president? how will she change things for women? >> i'm already tired of this conversation, because i don't think she is the salvation for women in all of that, but i do think that when you have a candidate who has been first lady, a senator, and a secretary of state, that she has a few more attributes than just being the woman candidate. [applause] janus: therefore, when i look at her career, when i look at her as a woman, the work that she has done which everybody knows she did, her outreach and the

work that she tried to do even not running for president, but what she tried to do for children and working families with children, that was always an important part of her platform. theher or not she is the all and end all of women, for heavens sakes, how many men have we had? i think it is time. i would not vote for certain women because they were women, but i would vote for that woman because she is a woman. i would not vote for hillary just because she is a woman. by the way, i was a sanders supporter in the primary. i am coming around all stop --

coming around. we do know that senator sanders agrees with hillary clinton 90% of the time. if the reason i support her, you want to talk about it from a feminine lands, it is not just because she is a woman, but the significance of that is astonishing. eight islamic nations have elected female heads of state, and we haven't. [applause] that she islso strongly pro-choice. she is the first presidential candidate who said she would eliminate the hyde amendment, which would prohibit federal money going to reproductive rights. leave.ports paid family we are one of the only developed nations that does not have paid leave for men and women. these are basic things. national healthcare, universal health care, access to college education.

it's what she would do for women, not just being a woman. janus: i support being respectful of people and not the meeting people -- not the meaning people in considering it a joke because they are female ng people and considering it a joke because they are female, and not making jokes about women's bodies. donald trump, i don't like his brand of humor. [applause] when we talk about the civil rights era, and it should ,e called the human rights era

people like mine whose families -- i should say this, my family was republican, and many black in the north,not republican, because we were are -- we were considering ourselves a block against the southern dixiecrat's. it was a different republican party at that time. republicans, and unfortunately, if we ask olympia snowe and lincoln chafee and other republicans why they are no longer in congress, we may have an idea of republicans who are being pushed aside by this kind of fact. -- kind of act. there was that memoir on the republican war against women.

ann: the republican war on women. have you ever heard of tanya mitchell? kathleen: she was involved in republican politics. ann: sen. sanders: you can forget -- ann: you can forget her. [applause] but i was going to say something about the war on women . carol: you are not going to ask us about hillary? kathleen: i'm sorry, go ahead. i want to thank his group over here forhis group over keeping it simple. -- civil. [applause] kathleen: go ahead. we shouldon't think vote for any candidate just because they happen to be black or a woman. we should be thinking of the best-qualified candidate.

nationcase of where our stands today, with some much chaos and the breakdown of the rule of law that we have seen with the obama administration, and we have hillary clinton with a history of lies, lies, more indicted,should be why would we want to elect a president that shows no respect for the public rule of law and will apparently say anything to get the votes of various groups? i think she and the democrats manipulate blacks and use blacks when they have power. when it comes to donald trump, i intend to support him, because i like his stance against political correctness. he is good on the issues that a lot of americans care about. right now, there are very few people who are willing to stand up and push back against the destruction of america. i think america is being

destroyed, headed in the wrong direction, and there are few people on the horizon that are willing to speak truth, and i think he does speak truth, and i that few people are qualified to lead, and i am going to support donald trump, and i would never under any circumstances support a democrat. i don't see how any christian could. i am a christian -- [applause] [groans] kathleen: that's provocative. ann: i want to say something about hillary. there is nothing you can say against trump that we have to go back to the poverty of -- the party of barry goldwater.

i am so glad it is not sanders that trump is running against. sanders would have been so much tougher. he talks like trump. i would say he is like trump in the sense that he is bound by the democratic party, but he used to be like trump, very concerned with immigration. we have to stop dumping low-wage workers on the countries, i care about low-wage workers, and we have to get their wages up, as did jesse jackson, cesar chavez. the, they realized, oh, illegals have anchor babies that are voting for us. we really care about the working class. but not only do i think sanders would be much tougher for trump, because both of them care about the working class, even if you the-- even if your dream is first female president, it is so sad that you have to vote hillary. he is saying's --

got because of who she was married to. she was the first lady of arkansas. she was the first lady of the country. we are not talking about claire mccaskill. we are not talking about dianne feinstein. can you name their husbands? no, you can't. how did hillary get to run for senator of new york, which is basically an appointed position? there are all these democrats waiting in the wings to become senator of new york. were just told, step aside, hillary is wanting -- hillary is running. the democrats step aside, she runs, and she beats rick blas io.

and secretary of state is an appointed position. we would not even know her name as it was not for what her husband did. run dianne feinstein, run claire mccaskill. they are strong women in the democratic party. hillary is not one of them. [applause] on that note, i am sally -- et sally: [indiscernible] kathleen: i want you to go first, because i think we need to resolve this hillary question. it, neither donald trump nor hillary clinton has a good record when it comes to -- ann: absolutely false. hillary is a liar, trump is a bs'er. he said he called 1000 people

when he calls one. sally: saying i never sent classified documents through e-mails, that's a lie. -- ann: saying i never sent classified documents through e-mails, that's a lie. to go with theng fbi. i am going to go with the 60,000 pages of documents and eight hearings that republicans held on benghazi, but republicans still love to bring it up, thinking she did something wrong, even though their own committees found that she didn't. do i think hillary clinton is perfect? no i don't. do i think donald trump is entertaining? i did at first, before he got frightening.

but you did refer the qualifications and actual experience, so it is interesting to me that you would support donald trump. i can't even trust him to send live tweets. i will say this about hillary clinton. [indiscernible] sally: i think you should keep doing that. trump nail polish, keep on going. hillary clinton's approval are significantly greater whenever she is actually in a job. when she is running for office, suddenly she sucks. she sucks as a candidate. she actually does a damn good job of delivering.

[indistinguishable conversation. ] ann: the entire middle east is blowing up because of what hillary did. obama had to be dragged into that monstrosity. it was 100%ls, hillary pushing, "we've got to go into libya." janus: it is one thing to be fallacious. ann: how am i being fallacious? [indiscernible] janus: that is not a fact. your benghazi characterization is not a fact, and i will not spend more time on it. ann: i will spend time on it. the country blew up. that is a fact.

anus callingo john me a name. janus: i said your characterization is fallacious, i did not call you a name. ann: why is it fallacious? it was right to take out gaddafi. we know from the e-mails that obama was against it. ares: are you sure you talking about e-mails, or are you just conflating at? ann: i am talking about the country of bolivia and what we know about hillary clinton as secretary of state. whate country of libya and we know about hillary clinton as secretary of state. janus: your president got us into all these wars in the first place. [applause] ann: by the way, those wars were -- those wars were supported by hillary clinton, not donald trump. whoa, whoa.

just want to do one serious thing about donald trump, for those of us who are new yorkers and really no donald trump. doll tropic is a man who took full-page ads in the new york times -- donald trump is a man who took full-page ads in the new york times take castigate the central park boys who everybody knew were innocent. kathleen: this is getting a little off track. janus: that is donald trump. donald trump is also the one who has not only maligned women, but -- by talking about what went on this week. myself and other

people in this room, we like to talk about the black community as monolithic. we are not. i am not saying that as a joke. dr. swain is a woman of achievement, we just disagree. [applause] janus: i am not trying to do anything underhanded, and i don't want to take in that way. when i am saying is, as a woman, i know what it means to be shot at by the police. police, andby the that's as a journalist. i know it means to not live in four black neighborhoods, but five years as a homeowner in greenwich, years in westport, years in connecticut, and to have the police stop all of my guests. i know what that means. i know what it means to have my guests dragged out of the car and forced to the ground,

because he is trying to find an the police decide they can have a little fun. i don't want to treat it all as a joke, because it is not. ,athleen: ok, it's not a joke and i want to take a minute to these wonderful women for their contributions to the conversation, and it is not over yet. i do want to give you all a chance to ask questions if they respectful.d janus: [indiscernible] kathleen: i think your hand when up first. i see one here as well.

ok, this lady here in the front row. >> hi, everybody. and i am alauren, -- iesswoman, and i work have been working my whole entire life with my husband. i just want to know -- and i am not going to tell you who i am voting for -- but i want to understand how you can wrap your head around this whole entire thing we have with hillary. she completely and totally lied. [applause] would nobody more than me want a female president to be the first president of the united states. listened to what james comey said, i listened to the hearings, and i cannot understand why she is not indicted. kathleen: ann coulter wants to

answer that. , veryll i will say is briefly, and i will let the democrats because the fbi did not bring charges, i would say, as you saw yourself, read his base. webas like, waking out the -- blinking like torture. gross one after another how there is carelessness and negligence. not bringing charges which i'm not surprised by. and iats don't than -- democrats. he laid out the case. appointee, but let the smear. candidate in trouble with the government.

all, -- of [indiscernible] we don't have that much time. let's be clear. it acts or does matter that he was not indicted. >> if she was indicted, he would be hearing it from that side of the room. the fact that she was not indicted by consequential but she had, they would just. two, colin powell did the same thing, arguably he did server, did secure she make a mistake? yes. she said it was. when she left forthcoming that should have been, yes. i have after. -- asked her. candidate whothe has several lawsuits against him for not just line, but purposely

defrauding poor people and seniors out of their way just. -- wages. [indiscernible] paper --g off cold poor people. >> you name one thing with donald trump ended the 10 times worse. >> i would be oppressed if she was indicted because that would mean you have to run against sanders and as i said, he is a lot tougher of a candidate and hillary. also, --ns >> also will go back to indict, morley and that toy clinton or the sins of for husband. clinton and the sins of her husband. the response has been to go after bill clinton. we don't seem to talk about that. womensn't talk about the

and court cases have said that donald trump sexually assaulted him to pending court cases. the double standard, he does not know what he's doing, this has to be our president. he has not answered poor policy questions. >> can tell the truth about him. one thing i love about women is we don't argue with each other, we resolve issues. [laughter] we would if we were all correct. this fellow here had his hand up. i hate to get away from all this excitement, you are brilliant. know, you talk about hillary and her job, curious,

,.ide from enron, -- iran we have a better relationship with toy clinton as secretary of state -- hillary clinton as secretary of state. >> i'm not going to be able to list a group of countries but i will say that the united states, the stating in the world and pull after poll went up during president obama's tenure and during her tenure as secretary of state. the world likes us more to me seems like it could standard. good's data. -- you what to blame russia on hillary clinton. putin invaded georgia when george w. bush was president, did you blame him? was he injecting weakness into the world? i have world -- news, bad people

do bad things in the world regardless of who is secretary of state. it is intriguing that we want to hold her responsible for the awful thing that happened. litigate, lisa right to argument is for the middle east stability for the anyone else. created isis. this question. -- next question. my question, why is it that single young women are among one of the most democratic groups in the country? what are they missing? i would love to ask it to the right side of the panel. forare they voting democratic candidates in such large numbers?

what would you say to them to commit them to come over to your side? >> two things. one is, like i said, brainwashing from the schools. and young single males are democratic. isthe other, the other thing , your question hints at but is not specifically say, the gender gap does not exist among married women. is single,gap divorced or never married. suffrage atomen's different times in a national government did. you can see what happens to government when women get the boat. the matter what mostly republican states gave women the vote first, whenever women get the vote, suddenly government spending is through the rate. which means that single women

are feeling insecure about the world, probably because they can and a summit to support them. if they don't have a husband, they turn to the government. i promise you, all these programs preschool care, nursery care, that is not designed to appeal to john wayne. again, it goes back to information. one of the things, the messages that comes out of research and i try to share with young people, we know that in the black community is something like 70% of black children are in single parent households. i try to encourage them as well as some other people that if they stay in school, if they don't have a child out of wedlock, if they get a job, and

they are less likely to be poor. i think most people want to work. they don't want to be on entitlement programs. the policies of the democratic party pushing this, a lot of minorities, i think it keeps them trapped. i believe that within the republican party, the programs i see people volunteering for and working in the prisons and in the schools with young people, it is to empower them so they can have a middle-class life where working-class life that they will be dependent on government. to vote for the democrats because they don't know any other way and they are being misled and being trapped. there is a way out. >> any other questions? >> ok. this gentleman.

>> there we are. my name is malcolm. serious, mellow question. governmentyears in and intelligence, my family has been in the military for 110 years. since the civil war. [applause] for the people who support trump , how in god's name, how, i have seen international command center a full-scale simulated nuclear attack on the united states, i have worked next to nuclear reactors, i have been in close proximity with nuclear weapons, the seriousness of the presidency of the united states

with the control of atomic 7100, if the president at any time so decides to employ that weapon, there is a nonstop chain of custody which will launch that weapon. how can you prove to me that this man has even the slightest comprehension of the awesome power that he can plan to use wheren a city like syria he would mass murder 2 million terrorists?t 30,000 i will tell you now, i don't think the military would do it. those orders are just that. explain to me his rationale based on his humor that he would have the gravity to control atomic weapons? >> excellent question. this is another, scared.

he is a businessman. he goes into meetings. he made himself a billion dollars. , the fake laughter is very effective argument, i'm siding fact. obviously a service person. just because summit can be funny , for pete's and we are sitting in a comedy club. this idea that people can't be funny. motherd to philly to my than i did to my boyfriends than a speech. so he is funny and entertaining. that is great. the idea that he flies off the handle, just being babies about this. his obviously is this person who engages with a lot of brilliant people and has but a lot of buildings and made a lot of umpey and i think i would tr

that more than the person who better to go into iraq and the person who blew up libya pushing obama into the biggest foreign-policy disaster of this administration. bush's bas george itch after the iraq war. we got out of that. going to invade me next, he called me and told me weapons of mass destruction. he paid each one of the families a million dollars, gaddafi was fine. is how we have this whole refugee crisis into your. gaddafi always said to europe, you would to take me out. wait until you see what i bring. think it is so clever to shut that answer the question.

the question is about foreign-policy. foreign-policy. who would handle it better. hillary made a mess of it. donald trump was on the right side of these issues and he is a serious businessman. i will answer the question. i think president trump himself will be against the terrace. we are not respected. the -- terrorists. we are not respected. >> i'm sorry. you know it is fascinating to me is, i'm old enough to remember 2008. remember conservatives and republicans talking about how barack obama was not qualified to be president.

it is interesting to me the sort of, he's a businessman so he will be doing the right thing. tocan trust that he want tweak nasty insulting things to heads of state. , this is anort of initiative, [indiscernible] [laughter] listen, i disagree with helical can on her foreign-policy issues be part of the reason i'm reluctant, she's more hawkish than i. go toe to tello us some of her foreign-policy decisions. may not always agreed with the outcome but at least i know she is thinking and knows what she's talking about. >> her one foreign-policy

initiative. a disaster. >> next question. we will move on. fun?e you all having >> they are drinking. think,rdless of what you the ghost of left or right, you have been credible. incredible. you mentioned a number of times, the bible, [indiscernible]

reason why you are, you stay on the side of the aisle and why you support the things you do based on religion and how that is not supposed to alienate myself as someone who is not religious as well as other people of other religions. it would be great to get your view on that. >> first of all, i understand and appreciate your question. for me, i identify as a christian more than a conservative. i'm unhappy with both parties. i live in america. i have to make a choice. i took the republican party because it is the party that

is most profamily. i believe it is the political party that defend the constitution. we do have judeo-christian tradition. jewish, too many jewish people that are conservative, and are becoming conservative, as far as whether or not you find my views offensive, i support my religious place from who i am. i don't think you have to agree with me. as a christian, i cannot support a political party that goes against the basic tenets of my fave. -- faith. >> some people on the side of the room. >> a lot of people debate whether donald trump is a

christian, we don't have a religious test for president in this country. i would vote for him because he loves america and i believe you did right thing. >> do into a quick and does not love america? >-- hillary clinton loves america? >> i think she hates america. >> you're supporting a candidate who is one of the people leading the charge say that president obama hates america but he may not be a citizen and not a christian. a majority of republicans now believe. >> president obama has done for america, undermine the rule of law. he has not shown respect for a separation of powers. the basic constitution tenet. >> i can make a fair argument bush but i would not question his patriotism. hateu think that i

america? >> i like you. i think your person of good intentions just like i am a person of good intentions but we need to have more dialogue. president obama a person with good intentions. -- is a person with good intentions. [indiscernible] >> a tremendous amount of respect for everyone on the panel. tv, kelly onnne on tv, i respect where you guys are coming from. what i am having a failure of understanding is how is it that you can't hold each candidate to the same standard? how is it you are able to excuse

donald trump for all of his batescretions yet lam hillary clinton for all of hers? the guys that he is being funny. about a man who if no political background, you see his fundraising, how is it you can justify being for donald trump without the him tound necessary for become president? i agree.e thing, i think we should have the same measuring stick. i think we very much do not. trump -- shhh!

asked trump was approximately 117 times did this about someone he has never met, never even referred to, had no contact with david duke. times. about it 116 he has disavowed, disavowed. meanwhile you have hillary clinton actively and endorsing black lives matter. al sharpton. as long as i know, [indiscernible] still talking. david duke has never given a speech where people end up any beaten up or step. -- stabbed. and yet are clinton -- hillary clinton is not asked to disavowed hillary clinton -- al

sharpton. the head of an american terrorist organization. donald trump has nothing to do with him. [screaming] >> black lives matter. are we going to ask hillary to disavowed the shooter. >> she did. believe even you believe that you can equate al sharpton with david duke of the ku klux klan. died from a speech that he gave. to -- republicans. [indiscernible]

when people are getting stabbed set onten up and stores fire after al sharpton gives a speech. that whilentioning al sharpton in the black is matter movement, they are not dyingme thing, people are because of police violence and that is why the buckeyes matter exists, to support nonviolence and the quality of all people. -- equality of all people. >> the black lives matter did not shoot five police officers. >> good clue close clan has done enough. the head of that organization is

responsible for some. we startk when defending the kkk, we're getting a little off course. >> not defending that. including black lives matter. >> you equivocated. >> accused of defending the kkk. >> no i do not. that there saying was some kind of comparable being offered that the kkk. >> why should donald trump? david duke, someone he's never met, -- hillary clinton says about black lives matter. the issue -- >

>> leads to stores being set on fire. people dying in harlem. reporters being beaten up. that has not happened. republicans are not kissing david did spring. they are not coming to meet with him the way democrats have met with al sharpton. that is the common yard stick. everybody shush. languagese stronger but we are being filmed. democrats is time for to go to bed and others to have a drink. >> time frederick. -- for a drink. >> one more question.

last question. >> thank you. thank you for this excellent conversation. i find value in both sides. i'm a 21 euros woman. and millennial. i consider myself kind of a conservative. some of his more conservative and more liberal on social issues utilizing the value from i love the pro-life movement. my question is, looking at the future of conservatism in this country and whether anne and dr. swain, yet millennial women are much more socially liberal even if they can be convinced on the economic issues. the question, with donald trump, i care a lot about the future of both parties and i think offer both values. women, we had this opportunity before donald trump came along to say we can bring women into the party and bring

diversity into the party, you think of the future against -- will have to deal with a lot of diversity in the future. how can conservatism rebound after the nomination of donald trump and make sure their party is more than just white people. that is a reality whether we like it or not and make sure conservatism, it has value, i believe that. how can we make sure that we continue to bring something to the table that is not just donald trump, but is more and can not shut it off. he expanded the vote beyond what the republican party was. >what are you talking about? i think we need to embrace this. you are worried about millennials be more socially liberal or fiscally

conservative, the whole attack on public and republican installing the odyssey when i work. >> i appreciate your statement. -- it is late. i think that one reason why so many young people that consider themselves, or the revoking party that they are becoming socially liberal is what is being taught on university campuses. the political correctness and the pressure of conservatism to liberalize their views. the republican party should stay true to its

principles, the classical liberalism, limited government, individual responsibility, respect for the constitution and the rule of law and that we would all thrive if we protect and defend the traditional liberal values that have given , that madecan party a difference in the past. i think it is a mistake for republicans to try to become like democrats and there's a lot of pressure from people and some of them went into the republican party to change it. , i think,individuals if you don't like the republican party, then maybe should belong --the democratic party or refinished? part of some people in the democratic party that are

getting frustrated and realizing that the democratic party does not have the best interest and we will take them also. will an observation. -- an observation. there are public and party pot from committee going on and for the first time ever, there's an openly gay member of the republican platform committee which i happen to think is fantastic. [applause] that pot from committee member introduced a measure in the platform saying not that the republican party should support marriage equality that is a bridge too far, she said that simply recognizing, acknowledging that there is a diversity of opinion with american party with respect to marriage equality and it was voted down. millennials, sup identified evangelicals support

marriage equality. do the math and good luck. you have a party and it is determined as i've been saying to the republican party was moving beyond social conservative and i thought this was a positive thing and that i'm so tired of political correctness. when i grew up, i thought it was just treating people with respect. that is it. now suddenly is