-- compromised by terrorism, hillary clinton plans to ignore the supreme court, reimpose executive inesty and would increase refugee program by more than 500% -- our refugee program. donald trump would appoint justices like the late antonin scalia . hillary clinton will appoint supreme court justices who will abandon the sanctity of life and rewrite our second amendment. to every american that shares our convictions, i say to you, join us for the sake of our security, for the sake of our prosperity, or the sake of a supreme court that will never back on our god-given liberties, let's come together. as a party and a people and a movement to make america great again. that day begins when donald

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♪ ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> the republican national convention from cleveland starts monday. watch live every minute on c-span. listen live on the free c-span radio app. live or on-demand anytime at c-span.org on your desktop, phone or tablet, where you will find all of our convention

coverage in the full convention schedule. follow us on twitter and like us on facebook to see video of newsworthy moments. do not miss a minute of the 2016 republican national convention starting monday at 1:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. the c-span radio app and c-span.org. is a reporter for the washington post who has been tracking a lot of the real intricacies of what's been going on in cleveland, especially with the rules committee this week. , one ofour headlines your pieces has this headline, "not so fast." take us back to the previous headline saying the never trump movement has effectively been defeated.

you covered a lot of the action in cleveland this week. what has happened? guest: let's remind you that the gavel does not come down until monday afternoon, but the dirtier business of running the republican party has been taken care of in the last few days in the downtown convention center. basically, what they were doing was setting the rules of the road for how exactly mr. trump would be nominated and begin to lay the groundwork for the 2020 campaign, no matter who is running at that point among republicans. the other thing they handled this week was the party platform, marketing document that sets out what they are all about, what they believe in, what they oppose. that was taken care of monday and tuesday. thursday in about and they wereing, going over things like who can serve on the republican national committee, the group that oversees the party, when exactly and how exactly caucuses and primaries can be held, and who

should be allowed to purchase a paid. -- two participate. and then whether a delegates of the convention are required to vote waste on the results of caucuses and primaries or whether they are allowed to do whatever they want in vote for whoever they want. there has been a decades long disputed the party over that issue, with some saying, look, up until might in 76 or the 1976 or the until 1970's, it was up to the delegates to make the decision of who the nominee was. 1990's, and980's, today, it has become a system that relies on the context and less on delegates. they say it is still the way it should be. ranks feeln otherwise. they say, no, it is now a requirement of delegates to the convention that they vote based

on the results of their states. however the states divide up delegates, that is the way it should be. whatpeople respond, well, is the point of the convention? usually the nominee is never in dispute, but this year was a very different here. the problem essentially was there was no alternative to trump, nobody that stepped up thesaid i will be alternative or i will put my name out there. john kasich, governor of ohio, said no thanks. ted cruz said he did not want to be nominated that way. disappeared.lly it made it difficult for this droup, which repeatedly blocke attempts to change the rules in their favor and watched as the rnc a lot of supporters of donald trump to lay into the party rules in several the replaces, that delegates are bound to the results of the

end thiso try to dispute once and for all. host: phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for ed o'keefe of the washington post. he is tracking all of the convention action, really preconvention starting monday. so much has gone on so far. calls and a couple minutes. move the story forward to the headline, the anti-trump delegates without trouble. -- antitrust delegates vow trouble. what are the possibilities on the convention floor? guest: there are limited options, and a lot of it will be on who is raising the gavel. on monday, a moment that does not normally matter, the convention convenes an organ size is a meeting of the republican party, and the kid -- a meetingd organize

of the republican party. the meetings are only supposed to last about an hour. ,he heads of those committees and they may want to file a minority report which allows bym to take an idea rejected the committee to a full convention with china 400 delegates. say, look, we discussed this in the committee but it did not get sorted out, what say all of you? that requires that at least 20 members of that committee, whichever one, the rules committee, the card and jewels committee, or the plant -- the credentials committee, or the platform committee, the 20th members sign a document saying, yes, i would like this to be presented to the full convention. in the platform committee, which considers all sorts of policy issues or ideas about what the party should be about, there were several attempts to basically soften the language of amp downy platform to t

the opposition to same-sex marriage. have been groups pushing the republican party to take a softer, more accepting stands on that issue. there were one or two proposals essentially against softening the language of the party, trying to demonstrate that they are a little more in tune with what is now legal reality, at least. there is a thought that those people may attempt to bring something forward that would allow for a full or vote on the issue of same-sex marriage. in the rules committee, a view proposals also got new 20th votes, one that would essentially is a device states to hold primaries and caucuses that are only allowed for republicans to vote in, not independents and not democrats. some states allow independents and some allow democrats on the sunday to show up and register republican to vote. there is a push among top leaders to close it, but they

could not come to agreement on how to. it was designed to try to stop guys like donald trump from winning the nomination. even if the primaries had been close to this you to just republicans, trump would have won a majority of them and still would have won a majority of the delegates. separate of the minority report, they might decide that states try to be recognize and try to call the attention of the chairman to make the point. demonstrate, to protest, to try to say we do not want trump. the other thing, probably the most embarrassing ultimately, is to try to organize some kind of mass walk-out. whether that happens on monday when they tried to do the formal business of setting up the convention and possibly nominating trump and pence to be the nominees, but also potentially on thursday night

when trump is supposed to accept the nomination and give his speech. we will see. part of the frustration is that they do not want to tell you everything, because they do not want to tip off convention organizers who might stop them or might try to do some thing that stops them from being able to make their point. , ithe same time, skeptics makes you wonder if they are just dragging you along. host: we will see how it plays out starting monday. as we get calls, this passage from mr. o'keefe's piece in the post. the options are limited, and attempts to cause trouble at the lyrical conventions are usually quickly sorted. anti-trip activists who spent weeks trying to play within the party structure now say they will do it trump hates the most, find a way to embarrass him. if they thought they were going to have the nice, unified can buy ya show, they just

completely guaranteed they are not going to have it. republican, good morning. maybe: well, i think that the party will implode on itself. it seems like a lot of them did not get with a wanton, so they are going to take their football and go home. i think that is sad, because most of them got in there because constituents voted and they got into that position. they should at least respect that. you know, i think it is wrong what they are doing, but i do not agree with trump either. hopefully, governor pence will andhe yang to trump's ying try to tone him down a bit and get him to watch what he says. that is about the best they can do with it. as far as my concern about america and the jobs situation, go to any store and try to buy something and see where it is

made at the at we're dealing with a communist country, even though they have opened up their borders a little bit. they are still secret about their government. why don't we bring the jobs back to this country. it does not make any sense. host: thank you what do you make of the selection of governor pence as the running mate for donald trump? guest: it was essentially a three or four man race. there is some hope that he will bring a slightly more conservative touch to the ticket and to the top of the republican party. pence is well-known for being an llly of socia conservatives and has a decent conservative record on national security when he was in congress. he struggled for many years while he was in indiana with a series of missteps or ideas quickly dejected even by members of his own party. what will be curious today and in the days to come is to what extent pence plays either a real

supporting role -- either we do not see much from him or hear much from him and trump up sort of disregards him or whether he becomes a partner, more in line with cheney and biden in recent years. part of what this week really will be for the trump campaign is assuaging the fears of republicans, whether it is the intellectual conservative class or the evangelical social conservative class of the tea party factions. waye is kind of seen as a to bridge all of that. we will see by thursday whether or not it really works. there is an eagerness from the trump and pain to emerge from this united and focused on the singular goal of taking of hillary clinton. whether or not they succeed in that this week, we will see. but it is telling that he still has to be doing that. it is july, after all.

this is the kind of thing that by march or april, and nominee wants to have taken care of. i would argue that trump up is still baking the cake, and he has to finish it by thursday. caller: from seattle, eric is on the line. comment. have a quick but i would like to ask you, you never talkews, you about with the republican party actually does. they have done nothing for the people of the united states. they have had numerous investigations. washington,as in shutdown the government, extreme abortion policies. he was one of the worse to party people in washington. now they have him as the vice president. his is the question i would like to ask. donald trump talked about the president's birth certificate. when they are in office, it does nothing to help the people to

talk about -- they do not want to raise minimum wage per all they did in office was they started a war in iraq and got the patriot act. they talk about ronald reagan, who granted amnesty, and that is why americans have a problem now. just like george bush started the iraq war. you have collateral damage years after these policies were put in place. concerning donald trump, donald trump is not extremist. this is what the white people in this country want. 66% of the white people or whatever is voting for the republican party. they voted for romney and reagan. this is what they want. blackare not extremist -- people voting, hispanics voted, otherwise the united states would basically be a christian country and you would be locked up for doing things if you are another religion. host: thanks for calling.

guest: i will correct that he said pence was involved in shutting done the government. by the time that happened, pence was not in congress anymore. host: what about all the critiques that eric just made? he laid out a lot of stuff against republicans and presumably the ticket. how do they fight critiques like that, the campaign? guest: they are going to people likewin over eric, just to be clear. to his broader concerns about whether or not the republican party is doing enough to appeal to minorities or to people who are working class or who rely on the minimum wage, the party is struggling with that. they are familiar with that concern. they did not necessarily do themselves favors this week with the platform that was raised. party clearly

supports a border wall along the border with mexico. changing undocumented immigrants and there areens, immigrants who do not like to use that term, illegal aliens. and regarding opposition to said nothingiage, about raising minimum wage, and raises concerns about the trade deal. it further changes the party and isolates it from those who feel otherwise. point,w, eric has got a but we will see what the party does this week, if anything, to broaden things. i suspect it will be something they focus on a little less. host: i want to ask about the list of speakers and the structure.

what we might here. guest: first of all, a list of speakers come out, but people on it are not actually showing up, like tim tebow. the son of billy graham was reported to be coming, but we heard he is not coming. we heard that tom selleck, the actor, was going to have some to nancyemorial reagan. those showing up are diehard trump supporters, those that have been speaking out on his behalf for quite a while. chris christie, attorney general of florida, the trump children. other people they invited are suddenly taking a pass. you will not see a lot of the rising stars or people running for reelection this year because they are staying away. i have been told at least 32 of the republican senators will be here and the rest will not be. only about 137 members of the house republican caucus will be

here, no more than 200. as we understand it, monday night will be devoted primarily to benghazi, what happened there and whatm or 11, 2012, secretary clinton did or did not do -- what happened there on september 11, 20 til12. showing a lack of an ability to deal with a crisis, and one of her selling points has been her national security experience. they will do what they can on monday night to suggest otherwise. host: donald trump will have an event at 11:00 eastern time this morning live on c-span with governor pence in midtown manhattan. you can watch it here on tv on c-span, c-span radio, and on c-span.org. , indianapolis, you are on. caller: good morning. i have a statement to the

american people, a very serious comment. they have got to wake up. we are in trouble in this country. congas has been the main country since obama has been in office. -- congress has been the main problem in this country since obama has been in office. mitch mcconnell is one of the main problems. from the time the primary election can around, because the american people's lack of knowledge. i am done with them. host: we got your point. question for our guest? caller: i am sorry? host: question for our guest? caller: why are the american people so ignorant? host: is that something you can handle? guest: nope, let's move on. host: jeff in tennessee, independent caller. i am just wondering why

y'all and talking about gary johnson. all we hear is clinton and trump. host: tell us about gary johnson and why we should know more and talk about him. caller: well, i don't even know much about him, that is because i want to know. i heard a little bit one day, and i would like to hear more about him. those other ones are just liars, you know, and i want to hear some truths. gary johnson, who is he running with, and what are they up to? guest: former governor of new mexico, former recover -- former republican. his second time around as a libertarian candidate running with the republican governor of massachusetts who was at one time going to be the u.s. a messenger to mexico. yorkves primarily in new and boston since he left the governorship in the 1990's. i believe there was a cbs/new irk times poll, correct me if

am wrong, that show they hit 12 percent nationally in polling against clinton and trump. they need to hit 15% by a certain point later in the summer in order to possibly participate in the presidential debates. that would be a worse nightmare scenario for both clinton and trump, probably more for trump. we have heard, anecdotally, we have not been able to track it yet more scientifically, that a lot of republicans are considering, at least, and may have switched to johnson and wells because they are concerned about trump-pence. they are campaigning and climbing in the polls nationally . and nothing is suggesting there causing damage to either of them, but they are a third alternative. there is jill stein, too, of course. pollsters, some

consultants are beginning to think johnson and stein might pull enough away from trump and perhaps a little bit from clinton that, in a crowded field, what will happen to her is what will happen to her husband, that she wins the white house with a 40% share of the vote because the others were able to keep votes away from trump. thing ison-wells growing. it does merit attention. jeff is right to point out that this is more than a two-person race. host: one of the places you can see and hear more of these folks -- jill stein is on this program earlier this week and is featured in the burlington free press. sender's supporters. you can watch the interview we did with her at c-span.org. gary johnson and his running mate did an event at the press club not too long ago, about an

hour-long event, and you can also watch that on our website, c-span.org. i did find a poll, one version of the -- one write-up in red state, and they point out that approval for gary johnson has seen something of an uptick lately, bringing him up to 12%. that is from the new york times/cbs poll. jonathan in fort lauderdale, florida. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. i would like to talk about the republican convention. -- what i would like to say is there is no way trump up can expect to get minority votes . ticketting pence on the is sliding way to far to the right. no way any minority is going to vote for them. the far right has been running the southern strategy for

decades now. it has been decades. i do not know how the republican party is going to say they are the party for minorities with all that bad history following them. and then to have pence, who is sliding so far to the right, it is just ridiculous. speech thataw his you guys put on c-span, and all he did was praise reagan, but not many people understand reaganomics and what trickle-down economics did to this country. to tell you the truth, i just do not understand. i would like to ask your guest, why do the american people hate president obama so much? host: ed o'keefe, does the trump -pence to get have a message for minority voters? guest: we will see. it will be difficult with the strict immigration controls he is calling for.

it depends on the way he talks about it each day. people from muslim countries or countries known to be terrorist sponsors. his supporters have called for much stricter controls of muslims, both outside united states and now inside the united states. it will be very difficult. look, there is a small percentage of hispanic voters who like trump. they admire his success record and his staunch immigration controls platform because, you know, if you dive into the polling on immigrants in this country, there actually is pretty strong support for improving the legal immigration system. there is concern among them that illegal or undocumented immigrants end up getting a pass them a when a lot of these people themselves have played by the rules or gotten into this country legally. but they are struggling. there will be some polling in

the next few days, jonathan, that reinforces your point about minority support for republicans overall and four trump, especially. the party is going to have to figure out whether they have any hope of doing this or whether they are just taking a pass on it. remember, the real concern for so many republicans with trump and his rhetoric is this will have an effect on the ballots further down, senate races, house races, governor races, counciloral and city races in some states. florida, colorado, and in california, especially, even nevada, they know they will suffer this year because hispanics will turn out and will not vote for them because they are members of the republican party, which as of this coming week will be formally led by trump. host: a tweet out by ed o'keefe --

host: i guess that is thursday night. , and whatl manafort is his impact? guest: he is the trump campaign chairman, now the guy essentially running the campaign . he was here briefly in cleveland , primarily on thursday for his rules committee meeting to make sure it went smoothly. he has been telling me and other reporters for weeks at the never trump movement had no hope of winning, because it had to get , which was rules stacked with trump up maury lists. there were a host of issues on that were of concern to pr trumpand concerns to the campaign and the convention process being opened to others. so they had supporters on the committee band together to block

these potential reforms. manafort knew that, and those opposed to him are not happy about it. the plan is for the party to emerge united from this. they are pleased that the candidate's stamp is now on this convention and the party based on the changes to the platform and to the rules process over the course of this week. the former manager of the campaign has been ousted, and you talk to republicans and democrats and those of us in the press, and we would agree that mr. trump has been a little more disciplined, a little more controlled. he has not been consenting to as many interviews where he can sort of say things or do things that cause days of trouble for the campaign. kind of keeping a little more disciplined. there is some believe that that is working, and that is part of the reason why you are starting to see his numbers hold steady. host: wall street journal editorial page ads this --

allowingg delegates -- a debate would have been good democratic drama that would have attracted more news coverage to mr. trump would be that much stronger for having prevailed after a debate. nting delegates will still find ways to express themselves, perhaps in media interviews. guest: that has been the argument of a lot of the folks that have been trying to make changes at why not allow a little bit of discussion about this. hold a rollcall of the states that could last for hours and count every single delegate, that them on the record for who they would vote for. allow a conversation on whether bound delegates should be or unbound. the problem is, the moment that starts, you and i start talking

about it and writing stories suggesting there are divisions in the party, and they desperately need to show that they are united. they know the only thing they got going for them, not the only thing but the most valid or the most unifying purpose they have at this point is to take down hillary clinton, to the feet her. they believe she is unpopular enough that if republican forces can band together, they can make it a much closer election than it might have been had it been somebody else. host: moving on to ivan in georgia, republican. caller: good morning. i appreciate you taking my phone call this morning. of o'keefe, for a like better words, i want to point to the elephant in the room, and that is in regards to the media bias that has been prevented

today -- that has been presented today. for example, fox news has a bias directed one way, clearly toward the republicans, and there are several other news outlets out there that are clearly democratic. i am curious as to whether or not the american people will actually be able to get coverage from both the democratic and republican conventions without a plethora of media bias? i hate to say it, but mr. o'keefe, you yourself are guilty somewhat, or your paper is, at least, of media bias. ast: keep on the line for second it what newspaper do you read every day? caller: the atlanta journal-constitution sometimes. i like to get my information mostly from the internet. host: what do you read on the internet? caller: i try to get some ,ifferent overseas outlets

those not controlled by an american conglomerate. host: ok, and when you are watching tv news, who do you want? varies.it quite frankly, in my opinion, and keep in mind, this is just my opinion, news is poisoned in one way or another. host: ok, if you sit down around 5:00 in the afternoon, who are you watching? caller: ok, i will give an example. abc news,c news -- that even as you are watching abc news, you clearly can see bias in their reporting. you can turn around and go to an nbc channel and see that bias, as well, or a fox. that is what i am trying to get at. in the newstime reporting business, the walter cronkite era, where they simply reported the facts without an

opinion with it. host: all right. guest: and i guess my point to ivan, and he sounds a little better than most, it is on the news consumer to change the channel and to read a few different sources and to be able to draw your own conclusions. yet, maybe be about two, and his view or your view as a viewer, to catch the bias. change thed, channels, and try to consume different perspectives. you know, we're used to the accusation that we are bias. comes with the territory. i know what he is getting at when he claims that the washington post is biase towards donald trump. i think if you asked hillary clinton supporters, they would tell us that we are no fan of the clinton campaign either. so that means we are doing our job, taking on people on both sides of the i/o. they keep changing the channels and reading different websites.

host: and keep watching as. guest: i was going to say, exactly, if you want unfiltered coverage, exactly, c-span, ,-span2, c-span3, c-span.org and c-span radio on your sirius xm dial. host: and do not look for commentary or editing are cutting into it we will show you every minute of the convention, actually both conventions. watch them on c-span, the c-span .adio app, c-span.org it all starts monday at 1:00 in cleveland. and then tuesday at 5:30, wednesday at 7:00, thursday at 7:30, all live right here. susan, fort myers, florida. caller: good morning. i am enjoying the program today. i am a little bit nauseated, or a lot nauseated, with listening to the pro-choice issue

constantly coming up and politics. politics.up in something nobody seems to be mentioning is that these women, they are not immaculate conceptions. counterparts male and their responsibility here? no one seems to bring the situation up. you know, there are lots of good ones, but there are lots of bad ones, too. and they are not assuming responsibility for their behavior. why don't we get the male birth control pill back up? 25 years one maybe 20, ago, and the fda would not release it because of side effects. well, the side effects were the same as that for the women, but the men, you know, they do not release it. host: let's go more to the

campaign itself, what has been going on. do you have a question? trump'swell, mr. behavior is the kind that most parents discouraged and teach their children not to be like. i think he is an embarrassment. i would like to know when, give me a date, when america stopped being great. i do not know about that, and i try to pay attention a lot. as far as jobs go, it is not america who shipped the jobs to other countries, like to china. it is corporate america, the corporate giants, i think, to get more money, you know, so they can earn more with cheap labor. host: anything you want to respond to? guest: the clinton campaign is tapping into that concern about

parenting, and mr. trump has an ad this week were kids are watching news conference desk news coverage about a host of issues, designing a message saying this is the kind of country want to leave to our children, the kind of country you want your children to grow up and. we will see how that resonates, but it was interesting. regardinghanged abortion, although there were several attempts. this concern pro-gay rights republicans on the committee. put intoe proposals codified the idea that the party believes that children should be two-parent households, and that should be a mother and long sortere that has of been the stance of the party. officially, they sort of tough and that language this week to make it even further so. host: we have yolande from columbus, georgia, democratic

caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. mr. o'keefe, this is my question and statement. ivan from georgia, a couple calls before me, was thinking along the same lines that i am thinking. where are the journalists who do real fact checking journalism? it does not matter whether you are democrat or republican or independent or the green party. where are the journalists, not talk show hosts who give opinions, not talk show hosts depending ond their political affiliation, where are the real journalists who do factual journalism? host: what are the facts that you are most concerned about in what you are reading or watching? caller: well, i do a little bit like ivan. i kind of check around. sometimes it is nauseating one

way or the other. one of the facts that a do not seek is, for example, i go with the conservatives and then get to the democrats, the liberals. when the conservatives say they are about physical responsibility, and then they blame the democrats for saying that they are liberal, they just want to throw out the baby with the bathwater and give everything away. so in one of their points of contention, it is social programs. today, if congress voted to cut out every social program there is, we would still have a deficit. none of that stuff is factually made, because when you listen to the media, we think that, oh, we give us a much away in this country, and people do not want to work. host: thanks for calling. anything else about her concern and the media? guest: yeah, ivan and yolande

should read more, read newspapers. do not just watch the news, read the news. those of us in the print business any online -- and the online news business dive into the facts. there are meeting substantive looks at what is going on. and then there are the pinocchio's, the nose thing. you might get a liar, or you might get a geppetto if you are correct. sit down and read. similarly, we have done tensely deep dives into the records into the backgrounds of mr. trump and of mrs. clinton over the years, of the clinton foundation, trump giving, his businesses. we did it on jeb bush, marco rubio, chris christie, and bernie sanders to some extent,

and we will continue. a lot of the concerns invented by people like ivan and yolande about bias would not be found if they spent more time reading the news and not just watching and listening to it. host: ok, let's go to brian and maryland. -- brian in maryland. caller: thank you for taking my call. my first statement is that i have been very disturbed in the intelligence of the republican party wanting to do and anti-trump, stop trump, especially one delegate out of colorado who made a statement of their conscience. was, if their conscience really the point, they should step down and back away. it is not follow the people's will. the people made the decision. i made a vote. other people made a vote. ofas a true supporter

someone who did not make the cut, and it falls to mr. trump. i am going to back him. he needs the party's support. that is my comment in my question for your guest is, i do watch one american news and cnn, cnbc, all the major news networks, fox. there is bias. i try to read a lot. but the major networks, that is what i see. people will rave about it, but all you have to do is step back and look at the bias, i agree. but it is up to the person to make a decision for their own. host: thank you. mike is our last call out of tennessee. independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. my biggest concern and question, someone gets rich and politics are crooks has been said, and

that has been my thought, too, but my biggest concern is the social security program. be shut all that can off. trillions of dollars are put in there a year by everybody. when one spouse dies, they only collect on one of the social security's. my question is, where does the rest of the money go, a big slush fund? why can't they be transferred to your kids' trust? i will wait for your answer off-line. i appreciate it. guest: social security has not been talked about much on his campaign, and i think that is kind of what other callers were getting it. too much noise and not discussion of serious issues. it has come up in the past. we have not seen as much of that so far from mr. trump and mrs. clinton. i think we will see some debated at the congressional level. but it is a complex system that needs to be fixed.

i think people on both sides of the aisle agree on that. and there are concerns that there is not going to be enough money in the decision -- enough noty to pay it up it does go into a slush fund. certainly, there are concerns. you are expressing concerns about how the trust fund is run and where the money sits and how it is managed, and that is the kind of issue we probably should be talking more about this year. we do not seem to have gotten around to that. host: ed o'keefe, you have been with help here and c-span your insights on the convention. thanks so >> washington journal is in cleveland for the republican national convention. sunday morning, a preview of the convention.

president,mmittee david gilbert. join us for "washington journal [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] c-span makes it easy to keep up with the latest convention elements with the c-span app, available as a download. of every coverage minute of the conventions, as well as schedule information about speeches and events. get c-span on the go with the c-span radio app. a live look in des moines, iowa, where the national governors association is meeting this weekend. discussion with nancy pelosi, talking about the relationship between the states and the federal government. that session should be getting underway shortly. our live coverage of the nga

summer meeting continuing on .-span >> as participants start filtering in, we will continue our live coverage of the nga summer meeting this afternoon. this session, one of several we are covering today. howr on, you were here from communities are responding to changing demographics. that, a discussion on how states can better protect against the cybercrime. while we wait for this session with the nancy pelosi at the national governors association, reminder about coverage in cleveland.

it starts monday at 1:00 p.m. eastern time, we bring you every minute of the four-day event on c-span and listen on the c-span radio app and get video-on-demand and c-span.org. session getsa underway, we will show you the preparations getting underway in cleveland ahead of the session. >> we are outside the quicken loans arena. this is the facility where the 2016 republican national convention will take place. we are sending on level four of the quicken loans arena. we are in one of the hospitality suite being converted for broadcast purposes for c-span. on this level, there are some hospitality suites for guests, but also 30 media suites. i was involved in the early infighting you might say to get these weeks for the media, which is about normal. it is about what we normally do.

,hile we get the total number they are actually signed individually through an intermediate process to the house television and radio gallery. they did well for c-span by putting you in this location. the delegates will be seated facing the stage, which we call the podium. we called it the podium complex. while that seeking chart has not been announced, it is usually kind of a fan shaped. as you move out, the people face in towards the complex. we have a center island side aisles so people can move and whatnot. we will see that next week when the plan comes out and when the .eats go down

you will really get a view of it. there are a number of standup broadcast positions. some of those are at floor level on each end in the end zones, and there are two huge network anchor booths at the end for cnn and nbc. it cost them more to build than the others. in onec, and cbs are level of in what were handicapped seating areas, where they have built on them. we have other handicapped seating elsewhere. appeare the broadcasters , we call them nonnetwork, but it means they are not one of those five they may be affiliates and other words. groupings,se same the standup positions on the floor, and some up on the level

in the handicapped broadcasting areas too, so they are everywhere. you canthe floor, if see them, there are two major site camera stands, and those will have television cameras on tier, and still photographers on the upper tier. standme way the center faces the podium. it will have two television cameras and our house production camera on the front, and the others will be still photographers. the proceeds are fixed positions with tables, electrical, internet capability, all built then, and they are now decorated with the red, white, blue, and stars. they look real fine. in san diego, those steps were put in and the stage was lowered

somewhat to get a feeling of , not like a 10 foot battleship approach where you look down on delegates. we have had steps in every design since then. this design was brought to us by hisexecutive producer and company, and the designer, joe from los angeles, theye are experts at it. it has large screens, like it steps, and what we are not seeing is the tremendous way we can very the look of this with lights, not just on the steps, but everything. the lights can change many colors throughout the stage. people will enter from one side, maker speech at the point, then eggs it from the other side. there is a small bandstand to we will keep the

flavor and have some other entertainment. we mentioned the lighting grid and other things. the lighting truss itself is 140 thousand pounds. we had to do all these major studies to see that it would hold our way, and we did. it was also an acoustical disaster for a convention-type thing because it was not built for spoken word at the floor level, and there was an echo in there. if you said something loudly at echo throughouta cut

the place. sound would go through the crevices and come out like an echo chamber, louder than it when it came in. that brings us to the fact that the sports arenas are more modern. we had some acoustical improvements to make here for our particular sound from four leve floor level. this is our fifth straight convention in a sports arena of this size. that, the superdome in new orleans in 1988, and the astrodome in houston in 1992, but for now are at least this is become the standard of what you see. we are in what is going to be known as media row. media row is an extension and variation of what has been known as radio talkshow row. vied this time,

enhance, and more than just radio talk shows. it will have broadcast positions in here and also the digital media, the new angle. this is the digital age, and that will all be in here. spacesill be defined with different variations. you can see a few of the initial panels. they have just started on the scenic design today. this is just the beginning of that. it is a good place to come by and see and be involved in. been working on this for like 10 years. the city needs to be ever to capacity to handle it if it is going to host an event like this.

maybe if they were unsuccessful in 2008 and they lacked the requisite number of hotel rooms , but you basically need 16,000 hotel rooms, venues for people to go. other than that, fundraising, -- locale to communities are expected to pay for these things to some degree. 2000 eight, the vague stumbling block with the number of hotel rooms close to the convention site. they built a convention center hotel. the county government used a sales tax hike to pay for it. this will be the first major event it will be hosting. that is the big one. --y got a phone call before and since then, accelerating public works projects, so one of the things you guys will see is

that there is a public square downtown that is like a public art made into more of a park and it used to be. there has been a lot of road repaving, more run-of-the-mill things like that. there is this convention economy that springs up and follows the convention as they go from town to town. there have been consultants here for the better part of 18 months getting restaurants on board with them, brokering events, and stuff like that. unless they have somebody helping them, they are flying blind a little bit. the road closures were just recently announced and so they did not know what kind of security restrictions would be in place. a lot of the places downtown are ready. they are expecting private events and stuff like that but it's hard to know what to expect and tell they get here. they have been very secretive about how that will proceed.

they are finding a hard time getting police agreeing to do it. i think a lot of that has been getting blown up because of the attention it has been attracting, but clearly they're having trouble meeting some of those early numbers they are trying to reach. it seems it has quieted down and they will be all right. at the end of the day, people may not even notice it is an issue, but it was a challenge for them. they are recruiting officers, training officers, was ending a $50 million grant on equipment, vehicles, personal protective riot gear. right her we had a lawsuit filed by the aclu that is basically resolved at this point, but we expect there will be a number of groups who will be following the essential parade route that will

proceed past downtown, past the cleveland indians ballpark, but other than that it is hard to know because there are only estimates of how many protesters will show up. you don't know until they arrive. there will be a lot of interest in this year's election, the presumptive nominee is controversial. in tampa 2012, the corner of people set i expect up in a couple of the parks downtown. thereand has said that are no barriers if they want to approach the physical security perimeter itself, so we could see people throughout, but i guess we will find out when it comes. a victory parade the broad one main people downtown after the cavaliers one, so i think it will compare to that. it might not be so bad. ,e do have a rail system here

so it should be up and running for the rnc. i expect a lot of people to take public transit. there's going to be a citywide street parking ban. a lot of garages may be getting repurposed. honestly, i expect a lot of people will steer clear of downtown as much as they can. because of cleveland's reputation or lack of reputation they don't think they will see much when they get here, but it lifestyle in a relatively small area. there is a really good food scene, restaurants and bars near the convention space. i think people will be an press. i think they will have a low bar coming in, but cleveland is a fun place. way people are consuming media is changing, so we have to adapt to that. we arexciting how

bringing digital assets into this convention. integrating digital components into everything we touch in terms of the convention. we consider the public stories around the convention, create opportunities to capture content. live streaming, 360 live, which we are excited about, integrating facebook, google, and twitter. the rnc 2016 mobile app is a couple of things. it will help bring information about the proceedings into the palm of your hand. the schedules, biographies, lifestream it as well, including 360. experience built then those folks coming to

cleveland, information about transportation, getting around , direction and wayfinding, so we are very excited. help improve the convention here and give you more access. it's more than being in front of your tv screen or in your seat. it makes everything connected. i think that is important. it will improve our experience and our engagement to the people we want to reach. that platform,g a new platform, but we think it is in port and that it is integrated into our content plan. -- it is important that it is in integrated into our content plan. account,our instagram

we are excited about that. twitter is well, content selection as well. we also have google live streaming digital provider, gavel-to-gavel on our youtube channel, gop convention. it is great to see the companies have a physical presence not just an online presence. she is our mascot here. we created a family content campaign around here, gop liberty, sharing it with the state parties and delegations, and they have been sharing it. to lookrage everybody out for her. we will see a lot more during the convention with her. we are a strong team of nine. we have been working really hard.

as it scales, it takes a lot of work. i imagine i will be running around everywhere. going outntent teams and trying to capture content from delegates, surrogates, from what is going on around the convention. we will also have team ,upporting our live streaming automatically archived after they are completed. it is really about making sure everything is amplified, that the moments are living on past the conclusion of the program for each evening. it accessible online, create opportunities for at theto be engaged three convention beyond the speeches. presentations were wonderful

and that we will continue this afternoon. we are honored to have your here and back again. thank governor branstad for his hospitality and the beautiful state of iowa. the nga staff, helping to organize and coordinate this. for the governors, for your busy schedules to be here. thank you for taking time. yesterday we had the distinct optionge of having the to hear from senator grassley, chairman of the judiciary committee and i was senior senator. today, we have another opportunity for another distinguished congressional leader, democratic leader nancy pelosi. we are honored to have her hair with this. for that formal introduction, i will turn it over to the vice chair, terry mcauliffe. >> thank you governor herbert and thank you for being with us this afternoon. i am honored to introduce our next guest.

she has been a friend of mine going back almost four decades. mother, grandmother, and has been a great leader for our country for so many years and a real advocate for working families in our nation. years, she has represented the 12th district of california, let the democrats in the house for more than 12 years, serving as the house democratic whip, speaker, and now has house leader. the breath of her work is too expensive for me to go through, but let me give you a few highlights that she has been involved in the affects all of us as governors. thehouse passage of american recovery and reinvestment act in 2009, literally saving millions of american jobs. in passing congress child nutrition and food safety legislation in 2010. she has made energy security her theship issue, raising vehicle fuel efficiency standards and making a historic commitment to american homegrown

biofuels. i know you understand that, governor branstad. newalso helped to pass a g.i. education bill for veterans of the iraq and afghanistan wars and has increased services for veterans, caregivers as well as the veterans administration. she has been born into a strong family tradition of public service. on behalf of the governors, it is my honor to introduce nancy pelosi, the leader of the house democrats. [applause] nancy pelosi: good afternoon everyone. it is lovely to be here in the heartland of america. the end of the presidential art the beginning

of the next presidential, i don't know. what he say? stops. it is just a constant. i was coming here from omaha, beautiful, but sadly beautiful to see the signs of reverence, flags at half staff along the way, and coming by the iowa veterans cemetery, grateful for how fortunate we are to have those who would be so great just both globally and at home to make us the home of the brave and the land of the free, and so it is wonderful to be here, governor, thank you again and again for your hospitality and leadership. terry mcauliffe, thank you for your generous introduction. theyl accept your words, were compliments to me on behalf of all our colleagues in congress who have the courage to go for it on this legislation, and of course the great leadership of president barack obama. i congratulate you and governor sandoval for your new leadership

, stepping into the chairmanship for 45 minutes or is it just as long as i speak? as long as i speak. again governor herbert, thank you for your tremendous leadership. remember when you came in with governor mcauliffe to my office and talked about how we could work together, federal and state bipartisan, nonpartisan cooperation, and i thank all of you and governor herbert for his on legislation for education on fastback. there were two things you mentioned that our law, thank you for making all of that happened. -- that happened. also thank the staff for the hospitality extended to be here. everything,gree on but i think we agree on one thing, the leadership and dynamism of america's governors

are one of the greatest resources of america's democracy. you not agree? [applause] that is an applause line. i feel very honored to be invited by the great governor terry mcauliffe to be here or to be introduced by a great governor. as he said, we go back a long way. he was like a teenager when we were all working, happy working for a long time in politics, but i am so proud of his leadership in the state of virginia, creating jobs, improving manytion, and in and so ways making a big difference, and i know part of the strength he draws on is the experience and what he draws from so many of you, so thank you for being such a great leader, terry mcauliffe. again, we may not agree on every subject. we are united in a common purpose. that is a purpose in finding solutions, improving lives. we know that a strong

federal-state partnership is essential to creating endurable art-- solutions facing nation today could i know we have a time limit, some trying to stick to my notes. we are more successful when we draw on the best practices that flow from states, the great laboratories of our democracies. that is an applause line, too. [applause] discussed state-federal relationships and partnerships, i want to acknowledge some of the subjects. thank you, governor branstad for your focus on food and agriculture and biofuels, a for that ohio has taken the lead on. we gave the congressional gold medal, president george w. bush came and made the presentation, and that was one of the days when we recognize the greatness of this state to

feeding the world. it was an honor for you to join us when we unveiled his statue a few years later at statuary harel. ll. we discussed our showed support for the renewable energy standard. there we go. and understanding the relationship between food, agricultural, and biofuels. i know that has been -- and i hope to be able to read to have the benefit of your thinking, grateful for another great governor from iowa, a leader on these issues, so i what has been very generous to our country and all these respects. i know you talked about opioids, and i just want to say this. i think all of you for your leadership on this subject, but just to put what happened in perspective. this is a good bill, bipartisan. it has good policy in it, but we really need the money right now.

in fact, we have needed it for a while. we did a budget agreement last year. in fact, when we do our appropriate for the following year, there are priorities that are established, a cap place there, but at that time we did not realize we would need $1.1 billion for opioids, $1.9 billion for zika, or hundreds of millions of dollars for flint. in the course of time, emergencies occur, and they are emergency spending. it has been over four months, , since theour months president asked for the zika money and a longtime since he asked for the opioid money. our disappointment almost to the point of not voting for the bill was that it is interesting

policy, good, bipartisan, but it does not have the money, and it will take months to get the money, and why should that be? then, when we get the money, it will be in a budget -- everything is in their about education, all the priorities that are necessities, investments that actually grow our country, great jobs, and reduce the deficit, so we have to compete for the money, and i just think that we should. hopefully we can always in so that at some point much sooner than the appropriations process we can have this emergency funding, even if we have to pay for it not as an emergency that we would appropriate it immediately and if we have to fight over where the money comes from, but not to kick the can down the road. refused to has provide the robust emergency resources urgent needed.

governors of both parties have been some of the most powerful voices for the need for congress to act on these public crises. need in, governor, the puerto rico for the zika funding. it is long, long overdue. how could it be? continued leadership and advocacy for meaningful funding to fight zika and opioids will make a critical difference when congress returns. funding is very, very long overdue, and i just don't know why. ontoagenda here, going some other subjects you have talked about, is an agenda of the future, and i salute you for that. much of the future will depend on our ability to take bold action today to ensure that our nation leads and innovation in this century. that american workers, american products, american ideas remain number one in the global economy. momentto tell you for a

about the innovation agenda we .ave put together we started 11 years ago, presented it 10 years ago. it is called innovation agenda. we went all over the country and a nonpartisan way, academics, entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, union members, students, every aspect of an economy, society, give us your parties and how to keep america number one. from that, we passed the ,roundbreaking competes act high risk, high reward clean energy research and technological development. steam, k-12, making college more affordable for all students, largest college aid for g.i. since the g.i. bill.

we expanded broadband across rural areas, strengthen initiatives of the department of agricultural and commerce, and modernize small business investment and initiatives. it madeou that because a tremendous difference, but 10 years have gone by and the world has changed after the first innovation agenda, 10 years st take inventory of what is needed to thrive. the process of cloud computing, data storage, again, more broadband technology, , new possibilities within our grasp it we must seize the full potential of innovation and technology or all of america's families and communities. this spring we have again innovation agenda 2.0, convening listening ,essions across the country

virginia, i could go around and say the states where we have been. in 2015, we listen to experts, academics, etc., and today i want to give you an introduction of what we heard and confirmed to invite our views -- i want to invite your views on how we can work local, state,e and federal level to keep america number one. it is all predicated on the idea that everything's hearts in the classroom. everything starts in the classroom. education is the greatest investment a family or nation can make in its children. and thank you governors, again, i think governor herbert, theing congress passed every student succeeds act, very important. as we talk about investing in education, remember this.

this is a fact. you might think some of this is opinion. this is a fact. nothing brings more money to the treasury to reduce the deficit more than educating the american people. early childhood, k-12, higher education, postgrad, lifetime learning for our workers. important, andso again, we must make elledge more affordable, reducing -- make college more affordable, reducing debt and making it possible for a world-class education for our veterans. the prospects of big data and information technology have put us all on the doorstep of tremendous advances, and again, all this has begun in the , but for everyone to participate in it, they must be educated to it in the classroom.

, information technology, it is a solution to every challenge that we all face, national security, homeland security, clean energy, eransportation, agricultur and food, smart cities and housing, education and diversity, any subject you can name. we are in a new and different place because of information technology and cloud and big data. , thank you governors for a defense in computer science education, because that is essential to our success. everydeed the success of person and every family and our country to participate in that success. we are also very proud of president obama's computer science for all initiative proposing $4 billion for states to increase access to k-12 computer services.

-- and computer science. we must again, i keep making this point, be inclusive. we must be sure every community and every child has access to high-speed always on broadband and the digital literacy necessary to participate in this progress. you know we have an opportunity in our country, some of it springs from an education gap that will never be solved until we address the education gap, but the education gap is deathly affected by the technology gap, the digital divide, and we have to reduce that in order to not students reach their aspirations but help keep america number one. as we embrace the power of information technology, we must also keep a sharp focus on the issues of privacy and cyber security. , i am my conditions, one an appropriator, so i understand

the culture when i talked earlier about the money coming from here and there, and i am also the longest serving person on the intelligence committee in our country, so i am very concerned about the cyber security issue. i thank you, governor mcauliffe, for putting this issue front and center with your upcoming -- are we ready for that? priority, serious andstments, research, engage in public-private partnerships to rebuild america's infrastructure. america's infrastructure -- it has never been a partisan issue. it doesn't have to be a partisan issue. theknow better than anybody deficit that is there, the trillions of dollars, the opportunity that is there to build infrastructure, to create mobility, to move people to and from work, to and from home, to

school, product to and from market were time makes a difference, especially in agricultural products, and this infrastructure will create jobs from day one because of the construction that is necessary. a tax credit to and center via's and enable the creation and deployment of cleaner, more inefficient energy technologies. we must establish innovation hubs. this is really important. i want to hear your views when we have a chance to chat. and every region of the country, some of it just gravitates. there has to be a decision made to have them in every region of the country. lastly, we must confront the obstacles facing americans who want to take a chance on a new idea or new business, but are curtailed by a lack of funding or what ever it is, and there is a path you take them out of that valley and have them skip over it.

working together as strong state-federal partners, we can ensure that america remains the leader of innovation and and entrepreneurship. we have a proud heritage and as americans, our sense of community and obligation to our troops. i always think of the vision of our founders, that we must -- that we are very blessed with the sacrifice of our troops that we are grateful for and the aspirations of our children. we have a proud heritage, and heritage always focused boldly on the future. that proud tradition that president kennedy challenged our nation to go to the moon more than 50 years ago. i know you know all about that or you have read about it. for me, it was my youth. for you, it was history. he said this at the time which applies.

the val's of this nation can only be fulfilled if we in this nation are first, and therefore we intend to be first. in short, he said, our leadership and science and industry, our hopes for peace and security, our obligations to ourselves as well as others all require us to make this effort. that is what he said. i say from the declaration of our founders to humanity's first up on the moon to the present day, america has show the world what it means to innovate, to lead, to be first. i thank you all for your leadership in this regard and thank you for the opportunity to share some thoughts with you this afternoon. thank you so much. [applause] >> go too far in the next administration of the governors association. you, leadernk

pelosi, i know we have time for a couple of questions. governor herbert has indicated the first question. >> thank you, leader pelosi. we are honored to have you here. the opportunity to meet with you. we have been working very well as a bipartisan organization. we think we are a good example of bipartisanship here at the governors. you have mentioned some areas where we have been successful, every student succeeds at, the fast fact, and we have a long history of that. president bill clinton's administration, will form out of wisconsin, michigan, and utah, and helped us as a country. what youon to you is see in the next congress, the f bipartisan

concerns are that we can help you get things done in the next progress that congress. nancy pelosi: i always come back to infrastructure. done, andwhat we have we have done some good things, we need to do more. a lot of it is predicated on the fact that science and technology are moving so quickly. as i said before, it has never we arepartisan issue, so trained to think in a way of nonpartisanship. what we would like to do is ask he have nonpartisanship in the suggestions that come in. that is how we used to do it. well, want to compete -- that was in the days and we don't have it anymore, but if you want to have your initiatives concluded in legislation, show the nonpartisan aspect of it in your communities, what the engineering and technological support is for it, and what is

its impact regionally, regionally, not just i want mine for my county, but what is the impact regionally. this is nonpartisan and crosses political, county, state, whatever distinctions. i think that is an endless opportunity. to that,hat, related is the tax reform, because as you know that first of all, we want to reform the tax code, make it simplified, fair, do the job it sets out to do and there are certain aspects of it like held america bonds, which are in our building infrastructure in our country, some of its bringing from the american reinvestment and know ay act, but also i

subject of concern to you is the tax deductibility of bonds and how bonds are treated, so ,nfrastructure and tax reform we can do them piecemeal, but if we could do it comprehensively and you could get in a nonpartisan way, which i think we should be able to do, again talking about what we could do, i hope it won't take until the next congress, but we have the to see me,, you come the mayors come to cs and the rest. there is a bill would say that where you purchase something, pay this, where it is delivered is where you pay the tax. ofepublican chairman of one the committees, we all support his initiative. i was trying to get it in the omnibus bill.

our support for that is totally nonpartisan. we rejoice in the fact that we , so some of the things we do, how they are affecting you in terms of building infrastructure, how you pay for it, and by the way, how are decisions at the tax code level affect your ability to collect taxes from internet sales on the rest. there are plenty of opportunities, and you may have some suggestions, again, continuing on the education path and as i have mentioned again and again the infrastructure path, especially now that we know we have to do things in a are goings greener if to be number one, if are going to keep the air clean, if we are

going to recognize the connection between agriculture, energy, and the rest, so we have tremendous opportunities. i come right back to what i said earlier, information technology, big data, just a subject every challenge that we face to what that computation and that speed and all the rest can make a tremendous, tremendous difference, so i think that will sort of melted away some of the partisanship, because what were talking about is not partisan. none of this has any ideological bent. we all want to take advantage of what science and technology can offer to help solve our problems. if you have any suggestions, again, you brought your parties before, education and transportation, and you got those done. thank you, governors. >> governor branstad? >> i want to thank you for the

role you played in honoring -- >> thank you. >> it was one of the highlights for me to be there when that statue was unveiled in such a hall,all, and -- statuary and also your support for renewable energy, so we appreciate that. to some degree, you have already touched on this, but tax reform, comprehensive federal tax reform is an important issue, and it obviously of effects us because, and you talk about this a little bit, that tax deductibility of state and local lawns. .- bonds we are concerned that the congress and doing comprehensive tax reform recognize the andrtant role of governors the states have in terms of controlling our own state tax authority and not being preempted, so i would just ask you to see what you can do to

make sure that, first of all, that we do see comprehensive tax reform and that we do it in such a way that it does not curtail the state's ability to meet our obligations. >> thank you, governor. i look forward to working with you on that. one of the things is the limit to what you can deduct. on theu have a limit deduction, that has an impact on the state and local bond part of it, so let's continue to work together. it is one of those things about the tax code. there is probably nothing that arouses more comment, shall i .ay, then when we go to do that it has an impact as we know. i want to congratulate you because the reason we were able was an act ofue

the legislature of iowa, because that is a decision of the state as to whose statue will be in statuary hall. i would like to take a little credit. it's beautiful. what a great man. event atight we had an the hall of laureates. if you get a chance before you leave des moines, they converted the old main library in des moines to the hall of laureates we have the chinese president there when he visited and 2012. -- all of laureates. we have the chinese president there when he visited in 2012. it is one of the things going on in des moines. we hope you will get a chance to see those. nancy pelosi: thank you. i hope to be if not, i will when i come back. thank you, iowa. thank you all. was to feed the

hungry and the world through science in a new and different way, so beautiful. thank you. >> governor malloy? thank you. it is great to see you again. it is fun to be with you. i just want to say that. of touched on a number subjects, not the least of which is the opioid situation, and i know you understand that that money is necessary today not tomorrow. in fact, we are way behind where we need to be in this fight against opioid abuse, a person dying every 20 minutes in the united states as a result of overdosing on opioids, and the problem is getting bigger as is being introduced on a broader basis and used as a substitute for opioids, so anything you can do to further that. i agree with you. as epic asemergency

a great flood or a great forest fire or great damage to infrastructure that might means, andsome other so anything you can do, we would greatly appreciate it. i know you get it. we just need your help, you're pushing, and you're right, don't stop. that was my question that they assigned me, so you and i made the point. transportation, one of the outstanding issues on transportation is that we have a five-year plan that was longer than many thought it would be, but only funded for three years. can you comment on where we go from here? nancy pelosi: i think we have to think in the bigger way. i really do. when you are talking about the infrastructure that we are talking about, a short fuse. it does not work for these projects take a long time. we know that there is something

after. every project is not just a and itself.- end in it is part of original plan. i think it would never be too soon for us to start working again on an infrastructure bill. transportation, and that's really important, roads, bridges, high-speed rail, mass transmit -- transit. it is very important. we are also talking water. some of the water systems are 100 years old. they are not even hygienic. from a health standpoint, they need to be changed. so much from when i first came to congress and we were doing now itnsportation bills, is about broadband, technology, the infrastructure to enable us to have a broadband for the future.

what ournot just about immediate needs are in terms of transportation one way or another. it is about, again, water systems, broadband, and so much more. so the opportunity -- let me take it away from just wrigley several -- federal and local expense. i have been told by some investors and the rest, major-league investors, that the biggest emerging market in the world is building the infrastructure in the united states. tore is so much need, over trillion dollars, some say $3 trillion, by the american society of engineers. in the trillions of dollars, so we have to divide -- there will never be enough appropriated dollars, even public-private-state-federal

match to meet the challenges we face, so we have to be thinking creatively in terms of how we do public-private partnerships, how we perhaps have an infrastructure bank to leverage the dollars we can invest to attract other dollars to get the job done, so this really challenges our imagination, and again related to the tax code as well. some had suggestion repatriation of funds to come home at a reduced tax rate to be used for an infrastructure bank in order to facilitate the investment that we need to make. so again it is not to be limited. we have to think creatively about bonding, about investment, partnership, how we use the sources that might not be readily available, but for that purpose would be. >> let me just say that there is bipartisan testament to the need on the transportation side.

every round is heavily competed for. we have everyone on record ining that we need help building the transportation infrastructure that will allow us to compete with europe and , so any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. you. pelosi: thank i welcome any suggestions you may have on the innovation agenda, the infrastructure, and they are all related. coming from where i do and no than california and seeing this all over the country, we have a new fresh way of looking at all these things, information technology and big data, and again it is all of the things we wanted to be in terms of mobility and cleaning the air and the rest, but from day one, jobs, and we need the education to be commensurate with it and the investments we make an education, we need them jobe aligned with what the

market needs so that at the same time we are lifting everyone up in our society. time for two have more questions. my question is related to cyber security. obviously it is a big issue for all of us, state level, federal level. we have so much data at the state level and we are all being attacked. how can you see the federal government working with the states that we can be included as we move forward with this? >> thank you for your leadership on this and thank you for your question. we have put out resources to the states for cyber security, homeland security. i think it would be important, i know it would be important for us to work together because some states just take the resources, but they don't have cyber security as a priority and how they allocate their resources, so perhaps we can work together to figure out how to put forth

storm formula with flexibility of course that says you really have to be investing in this. again, the technology, advancing the way it is will facilitate some of that, so it is not a security,e homeland but an enhancement. now,osition that we have and i know you are familiar with them, i think they could use some show we say sitting down and going over them and saying what actually works best so that states no that these resources are for this purpose and the federal government knows what the states need. intelligence world, we talk about needs and leads. what do we need to protect the american people? if we tell you what we think you should do, you may have a lead that is better.

so i'm not absolutely assured, and maybe you are, that communication has been what it needs to be to make sure that you get sufficient funds, but those funds do not ignore the cyber piece of homeland security. we are all burnable. -- honorablendous honorable it has been since the beginning of our country, privacy and security, how do you balance them? that is the job you have right on the front line in your states. if i must -- may say on that score, i have always, again, and -- as annce person, intelligent person, i have always talked about that balance. benjamin franklin said that if you don't have both, you don't have either, security and civil

liberties, privacy, but i think right now a third piece has entered into that, and that is liberty, privacy, civil , and american brand name. i don't mean just so we can sell american products overseas, but i mean that we must sell products -- american products overseas because we have to be a categorical great technology of the world. if people say well i'm not going to buy american because they ,ave a backdoor and all of that then that diminishes our security, so i think we should all just recognize that as we balance the equities, the importance of america prevailing in the world in terms of who dominates, in terms of technology being sold throughout th let sitbut again,

together and talk about the the mandates that go with her don't go with the cyber that go with or don't go with the cyber security. >> john bel edwards from the great state of louisiana. you did not say i was the best governor in louisiana. >> i said the newest. nancy pelosi: he will tell you that later. >> leader pelosi, thank you. nancy pelosi: congratulations to you. with the idea that states are laboratories for democracy, the national governors association promotes flexibility, but it seems like often from congress that we get a one-size-fits-all approach without the flexibility that we would need to be effective laboratories, probably because we can't be trusted, or that is

the sentiment with a lot of folks in washington and congress , so how can we move past first trust is using get to where we can have fair accountability, but also the flexibility we need to shape these programs the way we think we could deliver the best results? rep. pelosi: this is the newest governor coming with the question that governors always ask about flexibility. you learned very fast. the balance has to be there. for variousill purposes. money thatthat the is sent would be for that purpose. it's not even a question of trust it is a question of the can there be out.

more opportunity for waivers adjusting to individual situations? i think there is an attempt to do that but if you think it is about a lack of trust than we should address that. it is more about, let us address the purpose for which this was legislated and appropriated and judgment, have the the discretion being used in a way that benefits children. with everything that we talked about here, what we want our results. that is the point. how many times have i been here thattime, or have i heard question. clearly, we have not addressed it sufficiently because it continues to raise its head. it is the maintenance of effort,

we don't want to send money. challengent, it is a in writing of the bills to determine what is the purpose, what are the resources and are there other needs that the governors have that we are not addressing that they want the flexibility to go into this pocket. this is about the state-federal partnership. i respect that you are the laboratory of democracy and that great things spring from the states. many of the things we have at the federal level started from the states including the affordable care act. i want to acknowledge governor padilla for his leadership. it is wonderful that you are here.

>> thank you, leader pelosi. i just want to say to my colleagues and everybody here what i told you privately that i thank you for your leadership. puerto rico is moving out of the crisis we inherited. it's on a perfect law, but it's something that we need. puerto rico appreciates your leadership. you ryan helped, so thank on behalf of the people of puerto rico to have to tell my puerto ricoere that and leader pelosi are great friends so anytime your in need you will find a great friend. i am a witness of that. >> thank you, governor. we do listen. i did enjoy being with all of

you today. thank you for your leadership and your bipartisanship. thank you governor herbert for your leadership. congratulations to you terry mcauliffe. leader a greathe round of applause and thank her for her leadership. [applause] mbers. me we will move into our next session for the sake of time.

at least in utah, the changing demographics, the changing of ,he population mix, immigration, the changing of the economy is impactful. it is sometimes stunning. the knowledge of those changes on the demographic shifts will help us all become more as we engageernors with our legislators, local communities, business and civic leaders. for that effort -- where did you go? we will turn the time over to scott and scott can conduct this for this session. i will be right back. >> thank you governor herbert. governor brian sandoval was going to oversee this session.

he had to step in -- he asked me to step in. an emergency event in nevada and he had to return. to step in.ed the sessionar with so i am able to talk a little bit about this particular session. it is called the next generation view of 360 degree changing communities. the reason we put this session in is because it is under the news you can use template. we have been talking about demographics and the aging population and all of these things for years. what it codo