thank you. senator tim scott there last week on the floor of the senate and again today news from baton rouge louisiana of three police officers dead and four wounded in a shooting there. we continue to follow that story for you. recess now until september survey members can visit their districts and campaign ahead of the november elections. several of those members heading to where you see on the screen, that is a quicken loans arena known as the queue in cleveland partyhere the republican convention gets underway tomorrow. the four-day event taking place there in cleveland and we will have every minute of it for you to see right here on c-span. you can also listen on our p and on-demand at c-span.org. later today we take you there to cleveland for a preview of what to expect at the convention and

we will follow that with a news conference with representatives from the trunk campaign and the republican national committee that begins later today at 3:00 eastern. the convention approaching, indiana governor mike pence was formally introduced yesterday as donald trump's running mate. governor pence a former u.s. representative became governor in indiana in 2013. he originally had planned to seek reelection this november, but has since withdrawn from the race for the chance to be part of the republican presidential ticket. this event in new york city is 50 minutes. >> thank you everybody. great honor. great honor. thank you.

this is a wonderful day. i saturday morning, yes, isn't that nice. thank you all. have an incredible convention. it's really going well. we're going to get things solve them are going to do lots of wonderful thing for our country, most important. i'm here today to introduce the man who will be my partner in this campaign. to fix ourte house brake system. we are in a rigged, rigged system. and to make america safe again, and to make america rate again. i want to also address the islamic terror attack in france. car thewitnessed unbelief. no matter where you look, and

now it is happening more and more. and it is never going to stop. we need new leadership, we need new thinking, we need strength, we need in our country, law and order. and if i am elected president, that will happen. i want to express our unyielding support to the people of france and they mourn the loss as a nation. far as turkey is concerned, so many friends and turkey, great people, american people -- amazing people, we were somewhat. it looks like they are resolving the difficulty, but we wish them well. night, butguish must hopefully it will all work out. as hopefully the next president of united states, i to refer back to what has happened

over the years. the middle east today is more unstable than ever before. never been like this. out of control. after four years of clinton, who really led the way, and let obama down a harbor past, because i don't even think he could have made these decisions are badly. she let him write down a harbor horrible path. he did know what he was doing. iraq, syria, all into chaos. i is on a path to nuclear weapons. and on top of that, we gave them back $150 billion and we didn't get our hostages until the end. now we are seeing unrest in turkey, a further demonstration obama andlures of clinton. you just have to look every single thing they've touched has turned to horrible, horrible death-defying problems. back inneed to bring

our industry. our manufacturing, our jobs, they've been taken away like we're babies. taken away. and were going to bring them back. i found the leader who will help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous society for all americans. pence isovernor mike my first choice. i have admired the work he is done especially in the state of indiana. and i'm going to go over some of the circumference in just a minute. i also admire the fact that he fights for the people and he's going to fight for you. he is a solid, solid person. [applause] governor pence served indiana

with distinction in congress. and servedleadership as the chairman of the entire house republican congress. number one, he really has got the skills of a highly counted executive, leading the state of indiana to jobs, growth and opportunity, in spite of the relentless obstacles put in his right at every stage way by the obama administration. it is horrible out there. high taxes, and regulations. and it's out of control. mike pence is a man of honor, character, and honesty. we know that. hillary clinton is the embodiment of corruption. she's a corrupt person. what she has done with the e-mails, which is done with so many things, and i see the ads she is totally, bought and paid for by wall

street, the special interest, the lobbyist. 100%. she is crooked hillary. think that while she got away with murder, i think it might be her greatest competent, escaping the recent scandal and and the loss of 33,000 e-mails. people't loss, -- other have been paying tremendous prices for what they've done which is peanuts compared to what happened with hillary clinton. 33,000 e-mails are missing and that is ok. didn't give them to the fbi, did

not give them to the attorney general, and that's ok. whites are clean, that's ok. these are crimes. and how she got away with it, i think i understand it, but i think a lot of people don't. but i do believe while she did not pay the price she should have paid, she is going to pay that price when november 8 rolls around she is going to paid at the polls. i believe that. on top of everything else, hillary made $21.6 million giving speeches. to special interests in a short. of time. she is totally owned by lawsuit. she believes in globalism. it's not that she believes in it, the people i give her all of this money believe in it. and she will believe in whatever they want her to believe.

believe me. that is it. difference between crooked hillary clinton and mike pence. mike pence will never be afraid to speak the name of our enemy. radical islam, radical islamic terrorism. you saw the other day of the struct screaming out the window, you heard what he was screaming out the window. saw in san bernardino, you saw it at the world trade center, you saw it on our land a, -- in orlando, how horrible as that. you saw in paris. you see it all over. and hillary is a weak person. the law and order candidate and with the law and order party we are going to change things around.

there's going to respect again for lawn order. [applause] hillary clinton foreign policy helped launch isis. i see the ad she puts up. if i make one statement, which is fine, sheila tate that statement and put it on a totally dishonest at. she has a lot of money that is given to her by the lobbyist and special interest. i see the advertisements on foreign policy she's talking about donald trump doesn't have foreign policy experience. of course not have been a very -- i been a very very successful business person. but if you look at my calls, i said don't go into iraq, nobody cared because i was a business person. take the oil, many cause i said you take a look, i said that in

scotland and in the u.k., that was going to happen. i was the one that predicted it and already said he's wrong, he's wrong. president obama said it happens they will get to the back of the line but probably is one of the reasons they lost. i consider it as a win for them, actually. because they don't want to be told what to do. and they don't want to be told that would equal cool into the country they have to take them even if their not qualified. even if they don't have paperwork. even if they have no idea what the company. and i said that brexit is going to happen. i said they are going to break away and everybody laughed at me. and the author 20%. and then when it happened, she trumpn ad saying donald said this or that. and on the one that's it is going to happen. and some of the more fair reporters about 30% of them said he was right. i appreciate that. 70% didn't. mike pence will never be afraid

to speak the name of our enemy. at one of you look the big reasons that i chose mike, and one of the reasons is part of unity. 70 people -- so many people have said party unity. because i'm an outsider. i don't want to be an outsider. i think it's one of the reasons i want another landslide. i won in a landslide. i won in a landslide. this was not close. in the history of the republican party, with 17 people running out, other people want against we got almost 14 million

votes, that is more than any other person in the history of the republican party in the primary system running for president. [applause] that is more than ronald reagan who he loved, that's more than richard nixon, that's more than delight diaz and power, -- dwight eisenhower. more than the bushes. people.'s against 17 that means our message is unbelievable. i want to thank all of the loyal people, because i such a loyal unbelievable people and they display that just yesterday in cleveland where was going to be so amazing, but they display it. it was on display where he had this group of people who many of won't sayknown and i because for party unity i will i will say they're wonderful people. and they gothed

question immediately. because people want what we are saying to happen. they are tired of the country that has horrible trade deals. that has no borders. that has taxes that are through the roof. highest tax nation just about in the world. has regulations that don't allow you to start a business and destroy your business if you do start. speaking of the string businesses, we will take care of the miners and we will take care of the steelworkers paper going to put them back to work. they're very tired of it, but i want to thank all of those delegates are on the different committees because roy was at something. did we show them something. wasunfortunately the rope very late. but essentially we had 112 -- this was the boat was going to put on the floor.

with what we want. they want the wall. they want the borders. and what wereing doing that i'm so proud of and nobody else would he think about doing this i thought very hard for. we will call it the johnson amendment. where he took away from the evangelicals, and i want to thank evangelicals because without the evangelicals, i cannot have one this nomination. the evangelicals have been unbelievable. i dominated with evangelicals. a lot of people were surprised. they say he's not perfect. but you know it, they known going to get the job done and i'm really smart. and i said for the evangelicals, that were going to do something that nobody has even tried to do. the johnson- amendment passed by lbj in his group.

is a powerful president he knew how to get things done. he got bogged down in a war that was a disaster and destroyed them. but here is a powerful president and recalled the johnson amendment where you are just absolutely shunned if your evangelical, if you want to talk religion. the loser tax exempt status. platform, were going to get rid of that .orrible johnson amendment ,ere going to let evangelicals were going to let christians and jews and people of religion talk without being afraid to talk could i saw this, i had so many great leaders, some he comes up to my office. absolute top evangelical leaders, christian leaders, jewish leaders, believe it or not some muslim leaders, people will be surprised to hear that. i had the top leaders of to my office and i said why is it that

you are so powerful as an individual, and yet when you get out there, you sort of image -- timid? and they did not know how to answer the question and it took two or three meetings before i figured out. one great, great gentleman that everyone knows whose name i will not reveal, said mr. trump, we and in fear in our churches a synagogue. we live in fear that were going to lose our tax-exempt status if we say anything that is even slightly political. and i looked out the window, i was in trump tower come in at 22 people walking down the street. i said they have the right to speak, but you don't. that means you are -- they are more powerful than you are. we have to do something about it. how did it start. because ofit started lyndon johnson and he actually had a problem in texas with a and he religious leader did this and he got it done. and were going to undo it.

so the religious leaders and country and those unbelievable. e people so that religion can again have a voice because religions voice has been taken away and were going to change that. [applause] back to mike pence. one of the primary reasons i chose mike was i looked at indiana and i won indiana big. remember indiana was going to be -- that's right trump is going down. indiana wast -- going to be the firewall. .o i got to study indiana and i got to study new york and a lots of other places and i saw how nafta signed by bill clinton has trained our manufacturing jobs it has strained us. like we have never been drained before. nafta again signed by bill

clinton. nafta is the worst economic given the history of our country. manufacturing down in some states 50 5-60%. to mexico, to other places. i have a friend who is a great ability. but he builds his plants, all he does have plans for doesn't build buildings, he built. the biggest in the world. how's business? as with the other day. he's -- unbelievable. because i found that surprising. he says donald what were in mexico you won't believe. he said were building plants in mexico the likes of which we've never seen. i said what about this country? not much. he said exactly that, not much. toks that is going

stop. were going to reverse it. were going to bring our jobs back to this country. we can't be the stupid people anymore. he was better than a pollster, he's better than a consultant. i will tell you what, a guy like this is better than anybody you can hire to do a report. and he said it, he did not say from the standpoint of he's upset about it, it's just fact. how are doing? unbelievable in mexico. he actually said i've never, ever seen anything like it. if you look, ford is building massive plant there that of

michigan. we want them to build a michigan. and you know, that i know, how to do that. so we did. -- so easy. they're not going to take advantage of us without retribution. there are consequences when you fire thousands of people and move to another country and then think you're going to make your product and sell it in here. there are consequences. ms. consequences are going to keep companies in our country. everybody here knows what the consequences are. but i won't say that because a much more interested right now and mike. indiana's unemployment rate, and this is the primary reason i wanted mike. other than he looks very good. other than he has an incredible family. incredible wife and family. karen is amazing. [applause] to go respected, expected for another four years.

he would have one i think very easily in indiana. indiana where unemployment rate has fallen when he was there when he started, a .4%. less thanok over to 5% in may of 2016. since january 2013, indiana's labor force has increased by 186,000 jobs.-- i've got around to all these states, and every time i have statisticians, i say give me the stats on this thing. so is bad. -- it's always bad. everything is down. here is somebody who has gone up. private-sector job growth is up sincee than 147,000 jobs 2013. that's a very unusual. governor pence balance the budget.

can you imagine a balanced budget? our budget is so out of lack in this country we don't know what were doing. the balance the budget. they don't know what that means. governor pence balance the budget, produced a surplus and $2 billiona true -- reserve fund in a state of indiana. theiralso rated aaa -- bonds are rated to play. very few states have that. the best. that's as good as you can get. indiana was recently recognized by chief executive as the number one state in the midwest for business. number one, it is not even close. there are approximately 34,000 oner hugest -- hoosiers unemployment insurance now than there were one mike pence took office. hoosiers, hereer

people from indiana. knight, my friend who really did help make him if you want to reference bobby knight in indiana, we love bobby knight. he agrees with everything i'm saying. he loves the governor. indiana has a second lowest unemployment rate in the nation. veterans are nobody is fighting for the veterans like i am. the veterans have been left behind. if you remember a few months ago, hillary could that said doing really -- the da's much better. the doing a much better job than people give it credit for. people are lying in line waiting for 5-16 for doctors. they cane dying -- even see a doctor. it's a scandal. take a look at what is happening with the v.a. in arizona. take a look at what's happening administrationns , it's a scandal. it's corrupt.

it is incompetent, it's a scandal. and hillary clinton thought it was just fine. and boy am i going to win big with the veterans. we know that for a fact. [applause] now 2.4% for veterans, and 2013, one mike pence took veterans waste for 6.7. now it is always the best. ranked second in top 10 metro areas for young college graduates. that's a great thing. mike worked hard on that. he is telling me that was not easy. under governor pence's leadership, indiana enacted the largest k-12 education funding increase in the state's history. so you bouncing budgets and that your giving more money to

education, isn't that a great thing? indiana has just about the largest school choice program in america. school choice is where it's at folks if you want to get your schools better, you have to get rid of common core fast. governor pence enacted the largest income tax-cut in the state's history. think of that. we cutting taxes and bouncing budget. and along with corporate tax reform, just about number one in the country. indiana first in the .ation for its infrastructure so with all these cuts and all of these bouncing budgets, we are spending more money on education and the infrastructure has kept up to that has so much and the history of this country nobody has ever known so much about infrastructure as donald trump. i build infrastructure.

dry know how to build a wall, do i know how to build infrastructure? is very interesting. the whiching, i won is pretty amazing, but i won the the old post office building on pennsylvania avenue right now the white house. it's amazing, probably the best location. one of the most sought after projects in the history of the gsa. . really like what happened for going to have an opening very soon. yvonne got and eric did a fantastic job. i thought the other day is going over the numbers we are under budget and about a year, actually more than a year ahead of schedule and we are under budget substantially. the quality of the work is even better than we originally were going to do. [applause]

when i explained to a government representative that we are under budget and i had a schedule, there was felt that because they've those words before. so when i see what happened to indiana which was having tremendous problems, when i see what happened to indiana, under mike's work. also his predecessor did a great job by the way. who is now at purdue. when i see what happened with , thect to the numbers state, and everything else, that to me was probably the single most important, because it's something that has not happened in this whole country. the turnaround and the strength of indiana has been incredible. and i learned that when i campaigned there. and i learned that when i won that state and no line -- and a landslide. i learned that when governor

pence under tremendous pressure from establishment people endorsed somebody else, but it was more endorsement for me. if you remember. he talked about trump, then he talked about teddy was a good guy by the way through is going to be speaking at the convention. endorsed? did he 's even though he was under because i'm so outside of the establishment. it was the single greatest non-endorsement i've ever had. so with that i would like to introduce a man who i truly believe will be outstanding in every way and will be the next vice president of the united states. governor mike pence. thank you everyone. thank you. [applause]

gov. pence: on behalf of my family here and looking on, would you join me in thanking donald trump, melania, and his entire family for the sacrifices they are making to make america great again? [cheers and applause] gov. pence: and i thank donald trump, the confidence you have placed in us, and i accept your invitation to run and served as vice president of the united states of america.

[applause] gov. pence: i come to this moment deeply humbled but with the grateful heart. grateful to god for his amazing grace. grateful to my wonderful wife, karen, and our three incredible kids, michael, charlotte, and audrey. and grateful to this fighter, is this patriotic american who has set aside a legendary career in business to build a stronger america. donald j trump. [applause] gov. pence: and let me say, having had the privilege to spend time with this man and his family out of the limelight, i know what all of america will soon now even better. -- know even better. these are good people. donald trump is a good man and he will make a great president of the united states of america.

[applause] gov. pence: donald trump understands the frustrations and hopes of the american people like no leader since ronald reagan. the american people are tired. we are tired of being told. we are tired of being told that this is as good as it gets. we are tired of having politicians in both parties in washington, d.c. tell us they will get to those problems tomorrow. as ronald reagan said, we are tired of being told that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives better for us than we can plan them ourselves. donald trump gets it and understand the american people. [applause] gov. pence: i truly am deeply humbled to be at his side today.

when i got this call last wednesday i could only think of an ancient question. who am i, o lord? who is my family that you have brought us this far? let me each ride and answer that question for a few minutes. the people who know me well know i am a pretty basic guy. i am a christian, conservative, and republican, in that order. [applause] gov. pence: while i am currently, i currently have the privilege of serving the state that i love i am really just a small town boy who grew up in a southern indiana with a big family and a cornfield in the backyard. like donald trump, my grandfather immigrated to this country and in many ways i grew up with a front row seat to the american dream.

i watched my mom and dad held everything that matters -- a family, business, -- i started in politics in the other party but when i came of age, i was inspired by the ideals and the eloquence of our 40th president, and i became a republican. the most important thing in my life is that 31 years ago i married the girl of my dream, karen pence, who will make a great second lady of the united states of america. [applause] gov. pence: and while this office is an extraordinary office to which to ask -- aspire, the highest role i will ever play is dad. i am a proud father of the college student, a graduate turned writer, and a united states marine. [cheers and applause]

gov. pence: you know, my career, i ran for congress before the republican revolution led by newt gingrich in 1994. i by the time i got elected to washington, d.c., sometimes i felt like i was elected after it was over. for my first day in congress i found myself battling the big spenders in both political parties, whether opposing no child left behind, the wall street bailout, i fought every single day for taxpayers and fiscal responsibility when i was a member of the congress of the united states. after the republicans lost the congress in 2006 i was actually unanimously elected to serve in leadership, and we fought back against the nancy pelosi congress.

we opposed obamacare and and their tax increases and their trade, and i was part of the team that won the congress back from democratic control in 2010. [applause] gov. pence: all that happened before i went back home again to indiana. but i want to say i answered this call for two reasons. first, because i know from first-hand experience that strong republican leadership can bring about real change just like we have seen in the hoosier state. and secondly, because hillary clinton must never become president of the united states that of america. [cheers and applause]

gov. pence: now, on the first point i know what i'm talking about. in indiana we prove every day that you can build a growing economy on balanced budget, low taxes while making record investments in education, roads, and health care. we like to say indiana is a state that works, and it does. indiana works because republican principles work every time you put them into practice. we have a $2 billion surplus and the highest credit rating. hoosier businesses have created nearly 150,000 net new jobs, and we have more hoosiers going to work than ever before in the 200 year history of the great state of indiana. that is what republican leadership gets you. [applause] gov. pence: and let me say for my heart, that is what the an no-nonsense leadership of

donald j trump will bring to washington, d.c. [applause] gov. pence: elections are about choices. elections are about choices, and i also joined this ticket because the choice could not be more clear. the stakes could not be higher. americans can choose a leader who will fight to make america safe and prosperous again, and bring real change, or we can elect someone who literally personifies the failed establishment in washington, d.c. a seven been a half years of barack obama and hillary clinton's policies have weakened america's place in the world and stifled our nation's economy. terrorist attacks at home and

abroad, graham and heartbreaking scenes from france just a few short days ago. the attempted coup in turkey, all a test to a world spinning apart. history teaches us that weakness arouses evil. hillary clinton and barack obama's foreign-policy of leading from behind, moving redlines, feigning resets with a resurgent russia, and the rise of isis is a testament to this truth of history, and we must wring a change to america's stand in the world. [applause] gov. pence: we cannot have four more years apologizing to our enemies and abandoning our friends. america needs to be strong for the world to be safe. on the world stage, donald trump will lead from strength. he will rebuild the arsenal of democracy, stand with our allies, and hunt down and destroy the enemies of our freedom.

[applause] gov. pence: and at home, the choice is just as clear. where donald trump wants to cut taxes, hillary clinton plans to raise taxes on small businesses and family farms. donald trump is committed to repeal obama care lock, stock, and barrel, hillary clinton looks at obama care as a good start and wants to take bernie sanders' path to single-payer socialized medicine. donald trump supports and all of the above strategy and will and the war on coal. hillary clinton promised an energy plan that would close on american coal mines and put coal miners out of work. where donald trump wants to build a wall and temporarily suspend immigration from countries compromised by terrorism, hillary clinton plans to ignore the supreme court, reimpose executive amnesty, and would increase our refugee program by more than 500%. and where donald trump will appoint justices like the late antonin scalia who will uphold

our constitution, hillary clinton will support supreme court justices who will legislate from the bench, and rewrite our second amendment. to every american who shares our convictions, i say to you, join us. for the sake of our security, for the sake of our prosperity, for the sake of a supreme court that will never turn its back on our god-given liberties, let's come together. as a party and a people and a movement to make america great again, and that day begins when donald trump becomes the 45th

president of the united states of america. thank you for the honor. thank you for your support, and god bless the united states of america. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪

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governor mike pence as his running mate. that from yesterday. the two are heading to the national convention tomorrow. union, ryan.of the -- he understands that bringing diversity of experience onto the ticket is an important thing for him to do and mike pence's experience in the house on foreign relations on budgets and the difference in demeanor is something that will be very valuable. people want strength, they love that about donald trump. it is good to see a diversity of style. he did not want to make an announcement on the heel of the

disaster in nice and decided to announce on saturday and at no time in between that was you -- was he skeptical. >> between making the offer and arriving, he said that he did not make his final decision. >> he wanted to keep people guessing and make it more suspenseful. the fact that everything was coming down and people were talking, i think that frustrated donald trump but he was with him and new he was the right pick and that is where he was. >> is that who you wanted him to pick? .> it is a good juxtaposition they do not agree on everything, which shows maturity and a private. pivot.

and loans the goo arena. you can listen on c-span radio and view video on demand any time you like on c-span.org. clevelandc back in this afternoon. that starts today at 3:00 eastern. right now, more about what is going on from today's washington journal. host: and we are back with the reporter and digital editor here in cleveland. so quicken loans arena right behind us. is it ready? is cleveland ready for what's about to happen here?

guest: yes and maybe. i think the city has done as good a job to adjust as obviously national, international things have happened and as it has looked at each of the events and said what do we do? how do we adjust? but there are still some of the great unknowns. some are preparing for a huge crowd. for example, yesterday during a black lives matter event a thousand were expected maybe 200 , 300 show up. you overplan. host: what are the security preventions like given what happened recently with the threat of isis and other terrorism but also just what is happening in our country? guest: anybody who is used to strolling down east ninth street past the ballpark and going wherever you want to go is not going to happen this week. one of the most striking things were these metal barricades that have gone up all around the venue. and it's a little intimidating. it's a little scary just a sight

like that to think you have to do that but they did feel like they had to do this. the city is prepared with bicycle police u officers. they have outfitted the bicycles. that's not happy talk but also the bikes can be used for crowd control. extra horse patrols have come in. they've recruited as many as 2,000 police officers from other cities and have sworn them in. the city maintains control. but obviously they brought in a lot of people with a lot of specialties from other years. i was coming up 77 with a k-9 cruisers heading up here. >> how did they work out the relationship or what is the role of the city versus the secret service verse us federal agency that is are also in charge of security at a convention? >> the secret service role is very clearly defined. it's called hard zone. it is basically the arena, convention center where

reporters will be and the area around those. that is their area. they set the rules. nobody goes in or out without credentials and without pretty strict checks. the city set the event and set the zone as all of downtown cleveland. the american civil liberties union sued and the city came up with a slightly narrower parameter and also some accommodation force homeless people things like that. so the city has control there. and the secret service has controlled tighter in. and the f.b.i. has been around for quite a while stopping in on activist groups. some saw that as intimidating others saw that as comforting to feel out who is around what their plans are. host: jay johnson said he was concerned. he has concerns. and he was coming here on friday to check it out himself and then head into philly as well. guest: honestly, i would be

stunned if they weren't watching that given the tenor of what's happening not only nationally but worldwide. there is no higher profile event than these two conventions so you've got to do it right. host: we're about a mile away from where this is going to take place. what is happening to downtown cleevepbled? guest: lots of employees are staying home. the one extended government operation downtown is the courts. they have cleared out jail cells, set up extended hours for the courts again anticipating lots of arrests hoping not to have them. and so far cleveland history in several high profile events has been pretty good. but that part of it. private companies they're telling workers to work from home. this is always part of that equation on whether you want a convention or olympics or anything else like that. what do you lose as far as normal commerce goes when you host an event like this? host: who gets to go inside the

que and what do you need to get in? guest: lots of clearance from lots of people. reporters had to put in months ago for credentials and then they were issued and secret service background checks and homeland security background checks and all the rest. when you get your credentials you're allowed in. when you're a delegate you've gone through somewhat the same process. when you're a staffer you've gone through the same process. so the folks actually in there know they're in and nobody else is getting in. host: when you're inside, what's it like to be on the floor? are you able to move around freely when you get inside? guest: well it depends if you're a republican or a democrat. republicans sit more in their seats. they behave themselves better. democrats float around a lot more on the floor of the convention. but when reporters go in we kind of tag team with the credentials to actually get out on the floor. i've been to two republican conventions and both of those will have a delegation so key

because we're such a swing state. this year they're way off to the side host: we have a camera inside the que right now from our suite where ear going to be broadcast -- we're going to be broadcasting starting tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. but that's where the ohio delegation gets to sit. that's their view of the stage. is that a bad view? guest: that's a terrible view compared to what they're used to. it's very simple the reason. ohio this year went to a winner take all state. winner take all state, all of the delegates belong to the person who won the state overall who just happened to be governor john kasich. that was expected. as a result, none of the delegates on the first ballot unless john kasich releases them can vote for donald trump. so it won't be that moment in which ohio delivers the delegates that will put donald trump over the top officially. host: why hasn't john kasich released the delegates? guest: john kasich has said he

does not feel comfortable with donald trump as the representative of the republican party. he has not said absolutely he will never endorse but he has said i'm waiting a moment. he is waiting for donald trump to show a major conversion from the divisive candidate that john kasich has been. host: can that hurt the republican party and donald trump? ohio is a battleground. polls show them tied. guest: they are tied. you would think given the reservations of the republican party that hillary clinton would actually be doing better in ohio than she is doing. but if you want to know the story of the battleground of ohio basically travel the ohio river between ohio, west virginia, and pennsylvania. those are a lot of commurents for which the economy has never recovered especially down south get into coal country appalachia, some people who really feel very anxious about the future. and so that's the area where the real battle will be.

host: how has ohio broken in the past? would you call ohio blue red what is it? guest: we're called purple. though if you look at the map of our congressional delegations and you look at the whole statewide office slate it's all republican. some of that is how lines are drawn on the congressional map. some of that is that that's republicans have been much more active and much more organized in state politics. but barack obama wins. so you do have that purple swing state. republicans keep repeating the mantra that no republican has ever won the white house without winning ohio so you need ohio. some folks are saying this may be the time when ohio is by virtue of demographics whiter and orlando it may lose its swing status. host: and the role of governor kasich this week. guest: governor kasich was up to check out arrangements. he was around to the perimeters of the convention.

but he has no speaking engagement unlike four years ago when both he and rob portman had prime speaking spots. he does not plan to be a presence. host: rob portman? guest: rob portman will not be speaking. he said he is not avoiding the convention he just has lots of things to do. he is having a mock convention for his high school and college volunteers right next-door and he will be having speakers come over and talk with them. he is doing a habitat for humanity event. he is doing something with wounded warriors kye ackers. he is a by kayaker himself. he is finding ways to be in and around but not necessarily at the convention. host: why does he wanted to be present and known? guest: he has definitely endorsed donald trump but he's not gone much beyond that. he is running in a tough reelection campaign against former governor ted strickland. the latest polls show him moving

ahead pretty significantly. he needs that coal country i was talking about. he needs that swing area. but he also needs a lot of other people who have seen him as a more moderate republican to not be turned off. ost: let's get to calls. talking about ohio politics the convention. we'll go to naturally first in west virginia. -- gnat aly. caller: good morning. i just have a few things to say. it makes me beyond embarrassed for the first time in ni my life to be an american citizen so much my small children know not to say the t word in my home. i have watched both parties. trump in my opinion is a liar and a bully and it just shows how money can get you where you want. you can lie cheat and twist words and the people applaud.

the small minded people of america applaud. hillary has political experience however she's been shady as well. so how can we repair the country when we have two candidates that have no idea of how to fix it? why -- when they focus on what he said what she said. they need to focus on the real issues. host: what are some of those real issues? caller: real issues are i'm from southern west virginia and on the logan county line. i think so much of the people the coal miners out of work. and this isn't the first time. it's happened many times before when the logging industry came in. it's big businesses waves money in front of our face wipe us out and then leave. then we're stuck going what do we do again? there's got to be some kind of way to make this economy boom. there's got to be some way to make other countries respect

america again because they're laughing. host: what do you think about thearg that -- hearing that comment? our viewers talk about jobs, the economy. and a lot of times what they're saying doesn't match what we're hearing from the campaign from the candidates. guest: honestly i don't know how much we're not hearing it from the candidates or it's not the sexy stuff that we all cover, unfortunately. but what she's expressing are two points that i've heard repeatedly. one is i don't like either one of the candidates. there was a poll out last week in ohio that showed that 42% say they're less excited about this election than they were over past elections. the other thing when she talks about that coal country, i've made a couple trips down to harnse county, belmont county areas like that and hillary clinton made a huge mistake when she said we're going to kill coal. that has become absolutely red

meat for a lot of people down there for whom it's not just killing their future but it's disrespecting their past. this is an industry for which a lot of people literally died. and so to hear that it just needs to disappear is something that just hurts. host: next call donald, republican. good morning. aller: good morning. first i wanted to comment on, west virginia all voted for trump. he does have a plan and he is going to keep the coal industry alive. he's the only one talking about bringing jobs back to the country. he's the only candidate that is going to stop these bad trade agreements. that's the comment on --. host: ok. let's talk about trade. how big an issue is that in

ohio? guest: it's huge. there is just this absolute sense that since nafta and probably beyond no trade deal has served people well in ohio. now, you go out west and thing a interests would say it's served us very well but i'm talking about the area from which ronald is speaking. for them, jobs went elsewhere. d it's a hard issue to simplify but donald trump has simplified it. he said your jobs went to china and i will bring them back. what is interesting is the issue about coal that donald trump has said i'm going to bring back the coal industry and he has but he hasn't been real explicit how. part of it is to remove regulations which is seen to help kill the coal industry but what that would do is make coal more plentyful which would bring the price down which is killing

coal now because it has been brought down. so this idea if you get rid of the regulations coal comes back it's not that simple. host: yesterday when donald trump made his announcement we knew ahead of time that he was choosing indiana governor mike pence. he was critical of hillary clinton's support for nafta. however, his running mate mike pence has spoke about the benefits of nafta for his state of indiana. do you think that matters? guest: i don't think so. i think mike pence was more there to reassure ohio's social conservatives and the nation's social conservatives than anything else but you do raise an interesting issue that trade has been a republican idea, a republican strength. in fact, rob portman getting back to our senator changed his position on tpp. some would say as a result of the election some would say reflecting the opinions of

ohioans. trade is generally seen by republicans as a good thing. what you will hear both sides say over and over again including our other senator democrat shared brown is we are not opposed to trade. we are opposed to what we see as ub fair trade. free trade is as long as it's all done fairly and everybody's playing by the same rules we're good. host: you brought up social conservatives, unifying them bringing them into the fold. what was the response that you were hearing from ohio delegation about the choice of governor pence? guest: again, ohio's delegation all loyal to john kasich, many we're used d than to seeing. they're a more moderate group. but win a republican party and win a republican party that ohio has passed some of the strictest anti-abortion legislation in the country. a lot of people don't realize that.

a lot of our laws are very parallel to the texas law that just got overturned. so we do have within the republican party some strong social conservatives. and i think mike pence was a needed thing. but is it going to rouse the troops and get them out working hard for donald trump? i can't say that. host: as we're listening, you were looking at their seats. that's their viewpoint when the convention gets under way tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. tune in to c-span. get the radio app. and also go to c-span.org. that is where the ohio delegation will be seated looking at the stage and they usually get better seatic but because of their state being winner take all and all the delegates going for john kasich, he hasn't released them yet that's where they ended up. new york, california, two blue states are up front for this

convention. guest: though the california delegation is staying out in about an hour-1/2 away from here. but they get a great amusement park in their back yard. host: we'll go to barbara in cleveland. caller: good morning. host: what do you think about the convention in your town? quiveragetsdz it's not really in -- caller: it's not really in my town. it's downtown cleveland. my town you need to come up union avenue where they haven't cleaned up where they haven't built up and all the empty houses and all the poor people and all the homeless people. no, this is not cleveland. this is just a false resentation for cleveland. guest: what she's saying again is absolutely true to a point.

there are parts of cleveland that are hurting. terribly. and they've not been able to see the turnaround. violent crime, black on black crime especially this year over the past year has just been horrendous. another child was shot over the weekend. yes, we were struck hard by the foreclosures by what swept through the economy in 2008 and we've not recovered. what you do have going though is increasing activism within those neighborhoods to try to take control of these issues. i was over yesterday at a peace and justice convention over on the east side of cleveland and it was probably 200, 300 people saying we need to make a difference on social justice issues in our neighborhoods and beyond. host: let me add to what you were just saying median household income for cleveland, ohio, 26,000. guest: yeah. we're a cheap place to live though too. you've got to remember that.

yeah. household income has not kept up. and we kind of get back to some of the issues we were talking about contrasting with the appalachian ohio. it's just this feeling that not only am i not getting ahead any more but i'm not confident my kids are going to get ahead. so there's a lot of that from the urban areas to the very rural areas this sense of dis-ease. host: black african americans 37%, p about 53, whites hispanic about 10%. joe in river view florida. good morning. aller: good morning. i just wanted -- because i listen to you guys. why cleveland of all place force the republican party? law dependent and i'm in enforcement and i see the things

that like mike pence, i put kkk on his forehead. i think donald trump is on drugs. but i work with law enforcement, i see the hatred in the hearts and what they said and the way they treat men fellow black officers. but they're all republicans. we fight crime but we look at it different in the hood and we all kind of fear it but we know it's there. just a hatred of it. host: why cleveland? guest: cleveland made a lot of sense. it wanted to showcase itself in a big way. it has made a tremendous turnaround for all what you were just talking about and what is happening in some of the neighborhoods, the city core has really had a rebirth. areas that were vacant even three, four years ago are filled

and vibrant and it's gotten vibrant downtown. so cleveland wanted to say look at us. there also was thoughts about who would be running for president and that potentially john kasich would if not john kasich some other person that the republican party wanted to say hey ohio you matter. we're going to come there to help you swing our way. so it made sense from a republican calculation, it made sense from the city's calculation. what was not known at the time the city was putting in for this is what would happen with police relations and some of the high profigse issues especially the killing of a 12-year-old boy that mir rice. cleveland overtall has handled that situation very well. its police department is now toer a consent decree to try energize community policing and have it make a difference. but it was kind of coins dental that this was happening on this track at the same time that they

are going after the convention. host: next, in hollywood, florida. a democrat. caller: good morning. the age bracket that i'm in, we /-- ience the ibtgration integration/segregation era. therefore, we have more insight on predicting what this new republican party is all about. don't you know for one reason many of us knew that pence was going to be selected as vp because of social conservatism. what did reagan trickle down to the same social conservatives who basically are middle class and they jump on any band wagen? so their children who go off to college basically understand the concept of what tradition is in this country. so you do not have the

rockefeller republicans that vote with you. you do not have most of the independents that do not vote with you. so your strong points are white males mostly southerners and social conservatives. now, many of us tried to make the two parties work and found out that many in the republican party were very very negative towards receiving blacks to become members of the republican party. some of them would more or less die and go to hell before they uld invite or embrace this sinking of -- thinking of bringing everybody to the table. their children basically understand what's going on that the ones in the 70s, 80s -year-old old are basically carrying on the traditions of

their great grandparents who were those who worked for the plantation owners and they were sold by the plantation owners of -- a bill of goods that didn't work. host: i need to jump in because we're running short on time. i think we've got the gist. what were you thinking listening to him about how that plays out? guest: well, we do have a lot of what are called reagan democrats in ohio. i wish i could attribute this but i can't remember who sead it but somebody said especially in eastern ohio they have a history who ting for politicians have flamboyant things and have bad hair. they were referring to jim traffic nt. if you look at his positions they are aligned with republicans with pop list kind of rhetoric. there is a generational divide that is playing out. i have run into far more young

people than old people who are -- it's not going for hillary at least are terrified of trump. but it's, as with anything that is human it is more complex than saying it's a bunch of racist whose are going to vote for trump and it's a bunch of due process who are going to vote for hillary. which is how each side presents the other. there's a lot of individual's hopes and fears that are playing into the whole thing. host: your jim trasketnt joke goes over well with the c-span audience because they remember. what will happen tomorrow when the convection kicks off at 1:00? what will be happening on the floor? guest: basically all the adoption of the reports that were gone through last week. a lot of the drama we were last looking for is not going to be there. there was a move by two different groups to get the 28 votes they needed to have

minority reports which would have forced among other things unbinding the delegates committed to trump. so it becomes more everything is officially under way. we are ready to start welcoming the nominee. we are going to hear the first of the speakers. we're going to set the tone for the rest of the week. host: there is some following the delegates on line that some that want this unbound -- to unbind themselves and vote their conscience. some are saying it's not over yet. that there's an opportunity to embarrass the party, to embarrass donald trump possibly with a roll call vote forcing some sort of vote on the floor that would take hours that could play out. what are you hearing? guest: one move would be to abstain. and you're not voting for anyone else so you're abiding by your commitment but they will still abstain therefore it would be

embarrassing. i may have to call you tomorrow night and say messed that up. but i don't see it happening. people who attend these conventions are party loyalists. and even those not fond of donald trump saying this my party. they're not likely to be the kind of rebels to embarrass their party. host: we will have to be tuning in and watchings. hank you very much. david want to welcome gilbert. welcome. thank you for being here. guest: thanks for having me. host: let's talk about what you do. guest: when a convention is awarded to a city of either party, a contract is signed between the party and a nonprofit organization, apolitical nonprofit organization that is set up for the express purpose of

fulfilling the community's obligation in its bid to host the convention. so that is why our organization was set up about two years ago. and it's our job to do -- it's a number of things. one is raising the funds that were put forth and that is to fulfill the obligations. there's a lot of thing that is we provide so the committee on arrangements, the arm of the rnc that runs the convention itself can do a lot of their business. we also are involved in really all the city preparation. it's everything from hotels to thousands of volunteers to getting in every way shape or form every small detail in getting the city ready. the one thing we don't do is the safety and security. that's done by city of cleveland police, secret service, hundreds of different agencies all coordinating together. host: how did you get your job? guest: i'm from here. i've been involved in civic organizations actually run our

sports commission destination cleveland our convention and visitor's bureau, was the lead on the bid, and was asked to take on this role for this period of time. it's been very exciting. this is just so incredible for our city. we were thrilled. there's been so much that has changed about cleveland particularly in the last four, five, six years. we were bidding on both the republican and democrat convention. for us it was a civic decision to go after trying to host a political convention as a way to showcase all the great thing that is have happened in cleveland and where we're going. host: so your obligation is to find the money for this to happen. 64 million is what was pledged. there have been news reports and one of our viewers was talking about it that you're short $6 million is that still the case and why? guest: there's a couple pieces.

$64 million was the budget in the bid and that was the max amount that would have to be raised to pay for everything we are obligated to do. we're at now about 58-1/2 and 59. and if you look back at past conventions and timing, it's tampa four years ago, and it's very normal to be at 5 or 10% short the week of the convention. and as dollars still come in. we have raised far more than any convention in history to this point. there was federal funding for the last 20 plus years that had gone to help both democrat and republican host committees in paying for the convention. those dollars went away which we knew about when we were bidding. we had a community discussion would we still move forward, as did -- there were eight finalist cities ultimately in bidding. and we actually feel very good about where we are. the fact that we've raised so

much the fact that we're very close. and we will absolutely meet every obligation that we have. host: the convention starts tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. do you have to have the 64 million in place? guest: no. there isn't a date set or a check that has to be in the bank. it's also making sure that all the bills are paid. and the budget the maximum that can be spent. so we're in very, very good shape. host: there was a letter sent out by the host committee to she woulden addleson. organizers had to apologize. there were according to news reports in that letter some facts that weren't accurate. can you explain what happened why this letter was sent out and why ask him to make tup difference? guest: well, as you could imagine we have been in our fund raising efforts we have been working for a year-and-a-half on

targeting and asking particularly people who in the past have given to the host committees of past cities. and mr. addleson is certainly one of those a major republican donor and the kind of person that would be on our list from the very beginning. and we've been in discussions with folks from his organization for many months. we were asked to provide one evening that they were getting close to making a decision. the letter wasn't a last-ditch effort. these have been discussion force a long time. we were asked to give particular information. and that happens regularly. they're all a little bit different. one of the things asked for was are there companies and organizations that had particularly not given? and we -- so we provided a list. our mistake was we didn't provide a disfinchings. there were a handful of companies that had made hard

specific pledges to the host committee and then backed out. and then there were other whose we had substantive discussions with had not made a specific pledge but at some point had said we're going to be out as well. we didn't make that distinction and we want to make sure we apologize. host: folks are saying that the reason why you can't get these companies to pledge like they have in the past or follow through was what they said they were going to do is because the republican candidate is flawed. is toxic. guest: well, we're an apolitical organization and it's not our job to talk about the candidate in any way shape or form. we're not involved in the political part of what happened. this is about our community. in most cases, people who tell us that they will give or won't give don't give us a specific reason. and we have an idea of why people give. many, many of our donors have done it to support cleveland. people in cleveland, people in

ohio. there are people who give to upport the process and give to host committees, the republican ide the democrat side. but ultimately very few give a specific reason why they do or do not give. there were a handful that just said based on all the media around the craziness, they have decided to sit that one out. host: how many individuals have given and how many corporations have given? guest: i don't have that exact number. 60 days after the end of the convention we are legally required to provide a full accounting to the federal election commission as part of every host committee. that's when it becomes public. so i don't eevep have the number in my head of how many individuals versus corporations. i think somewhere in the 150 to 200 different individuals,

corporations or organizations. host: and how much can an individual give? guest: there's no limit. we are a 501(c)(3) organization because we're political and we're very careful and we have to be that anything we spend cannot be related to the actual convention, the business of the convention. and because we're a 50 1 c 3 there are no limits. >> and are most of the individual donors wealthy individuals like she woulden add elson? guest: largely yes. we -- these are larger again especially when you're talking about companies and people specifically locally around the state that have given. they've given in a bigger way to support cleveland. so in raising those dollars and if you look back at all the past conventions it's usually five, six, seven-figure donations. host: we'll go to new york.

caller: i want to say just a couple of things and i will do it quickly. first, i would like to know if anybody is still going after mr. trump for his taxes. for his tax returns. second, i want to know if he is taking any money from the super pacs since he always claimed he was using his own money. and where is the money from the campaign coming from. trump ishird thing mr. very good at tagging people with mes like crooked hillary and goofy warren. i would like to tag him and i hope that somebody in his -- in the hillary campaign. i would like to tag mr. trump as dopey don.

host: let me leave it there. tell our viewers the distinction between you raising money for the convention in cleveland and the campaigns raising money in the general election. guest: absolutely. and i appreciate your making the distinction. as mentioned we are an apolitical nonprofit organization. our job is to get our community ready and our job is to make sure that the infrastructure is ready to host a political convention. that the venues are ready. that the media center is the ready. all of the pieces. the transportation. the logistical pieces that it takes for everybody who comes here. 50,000 plus people coming as part of the convention that we have everything ready for them. everything inside which is the convention inside, any business in the convention is not the matter. none of our dollars will pay for that. so we don't take any stance whatsoever related to anything

related to the campaign or the party or the candidate. host: people on the host committee are they republicans? guest: we've never been asked. it's never been a distinction. if you look at the offices of our host committee and the people around the table, they're top corporate leaders, civic leaders. we have a democrat mayor, a democrat county executive. they've been praised by the rnc. when the rnc chose cleveland, after they said one of the the things that stood out was the people here and how much you wanted us here. and they went out of their way to praise our mayer to say here's a democrat mayor that was here welcoming us when we got off the plane, welcoming us when we got back on the. everything in between. this is about our city. host: what is the economic ben sfit guest: economic benefit.

and past studies from conventions on both sides show a direct spending somewhere $250 million that takes place from outsiders coming into town spending during the convention and the weeks and months leading up to it. we think of that as short term. the long term is largely we are show casing our city to the world. and there's been so many unbelievable thing that is have propelled cleveland. it is such a vastly different city. we're a city that really went through a 40-year recession. very difficult part of the world, manufacturing hub of the world in many ways and things have turned around so showcasing that long term is probably the biggest benefit. host: jo in florida. caller: he doesn't really represent mr. trump or the republicans that are there. he uzz just the money man for

getting the arena. he's like the head of it. but i do have a comment and i don't think he can answer this. when trump was in sarasota, florida, i have a permit to carry a gun. i'm a democrat. and i'm a member of liberals with guns. i went to the arena after mr. trump said that if everybody had been armed in the mall shooting that it probably wouldn't have happened. well, i went to his arena and at -- here in sarasota and tried to get in with my gun. they wouldn't let me in. it seems contrary to what he said. now, are they going to let people into the arena with guns? i know outside they will allow them to permit to carey. host: let me jump in at that point. ohio is an open carry law. security. that's separate. but did that have an impact on

preparing the city and the infrastructure and making sure that the different facilities will be ready to go? did it have any impact? guest: it's an interesting balance in that because first and foremost we have a right of free speech in this country. laws of our city, laws of our state. and until all of that had to be taken into conversation by law enforcement in making sure those are very safe and security atmosphere around the convention. so i give our safety forces huge credit for coming up with a plan. this was a year in the making the specific plan to make sure they balanced all of those things. host: tell wruss the money goes for. you have u right now about 59 million, you're about 6 million short. where do you spebbed 59 mling to prepare a city guest: it's in a lot of different areas. transportation is one issue. when you have transportation for many of these 50,000 people

.hat's a very big expense raising the money is a relatively small part of what we do. the logistics afputting on an event of this size and magnitude and so many complexities takes up far more of our time and you have staff to pay for that have to do all these things. and there are a lot of thing that is we do provide to the rnc. but i will make a distinction. not the rnc but the committee on arrangements. we provide office space. we provide them what it takes for them also to put on the apolitical piece of the convention. host: when you say we provide. you provide the space and therefore you're paying the bills? guest: that's correct. it's not writing a check per se. we don't write, the host committee does not write a check to the republican national committee. we are not allowed and we don't.

there are expenses and we have a list of approved expenses that we know will pass an audit test that we are allowed to spend on. that's very clear in the law. that's where the budget comes in that's where we look at every invoice, every expersons. is it proper, legal, and then we will approve it and then it will be paid. host: what bill won't be paid? guest: every bill will be paid. we have contingencies. we will 100% fulfill every single obligation that we put in our bid to make sure that this convention is -- we hope -- one of the best ever host: by whether or not point will you do that? guest: not too long after the convention. there are bills that have to be paid. if the convention starts on monday but there are expenses that run into post convention. but not too long afterwards. host: steve next in ohio. caller: first, i want to thank

you for all your hard work and wish him a successful convention. my question is on has donald trump donated to the committee? and has he done so in previous conventions? thank you. guest: thank you for the comment. i appreciate it. it has been a lot of work and we're very excited. we are not at liberty to say what specific donors and again that will be out in the filing 60 days after. i don't know if he or -- if he as an individual or any of his organizations have contributed in the past. i'm not that familiar with specifically who has given in tampa and others. host: can they? guest: i believe they can. again, i won't say this as a fact. but i believe that i don't think there is a distinction of who specifically can give or not give. host: why aren't you allowed to

publicly say who is donating in real time? why do you have to wait 60 days after it's over? host: we have disclosures for some of our donors who that's the way they would like it. so we have said with our counsel we will not put anything out there. it's pretty standard practice with a host committee but then afterwards when it's the filing it's all public. decision eally at the of our donors. host: good morning. caller: good morning. i have a real issue here as a republican on social security. i first can't even start to phantom how you can throw away $6 h million to put a bunch of people together. even in construction, traffic and controlling thask and that that's just is such a farce to

me. mr. gilbert you need to learn how to be transparent. everybody's asking you questions about mr. trump. why did you tell us the salaries that you've received from this work that you're doing and your committee members. why don't you explain to us all of the things that each of the employees of the committee are getting and let's see how much money is actually going into the town versus into your pockets. because as a republican, i'm really fed up with the lack of transparency. if you go back to 1779, madison never mentioned a republican or democratic party. but we are becoming a party of such secrecy and there's no law that keeps you from dwudging who gave you money. it's just a little rule that you set up between you and your counsel. so let's be clear here host: ok. let's get some answers. guest: i'm trying to remember

the whole thing. host: he first asked you about to be more transparent about where the someone going. what do you need 64 million for in his guest: here is what i will say first, the budget that we put , we did nota bid ,reate the how conventions work we just knew going into the process, as did dallas, las vegas, kansas city, denver, columbus, cincinnati, a lot of cities that date, they went into this knowing what the cost is and without negations are to put this on, so we did not create it but we decided as a community it was worth it for us if we are awarded this, we would raise the money and spend it on the things we were allowed to spend it on and what wasn,

required for the benefit of our community. host: did voters get to say? guest: yes. host: did cleveland taxpayers have to contribute? guest: the short answer is yes, and our city and county put in $2.5 million and i will not amountor them, but the that the city and county will get back will be manyfold. they see it as an investment, as did companies and individuals in because they believe this is an investment in cleveland. host: do voters get a say in having the officials of cleveland propose to have it here in the first place? to pitch the parties and say, we want it here, to voters get the safe? it was not part of the process in cleveland and voters or their mayors and counsel decisions ono make

how dollars are spent in the community. again, i think it is important that even if you look at the city and county contributions, probably 7.5% of the total that was raised, and most are based outside of cleveland. people outside of cleveland to give and it is spent in our community. they create jobs and provide economic impact for our community. are you saying it is corporations and individuals who do not live in cleveland? lobbyists? guest: i have to go back and look at the list. i do not think anyone lobbyists back into the host committee. i would not want to say that because i have to look at the list, but we did not go out targeting lobbyists. that is not part of it. i would say it is corporations, individuals and in some cases trade association, a handful of those types who traditionally will support conventions on both

sides. host: he also wanted to know about transparency, your salary and those of the committee members. guest: i would say the committee members all do it absolutely free. this is their time, a nonprofit and they give their time. i will not say what amount i received. i can save it is pretty darn small and i would use the word i voluntold,-- and the staff is incredibly small. host: you were also over the destination sports cleveland. back to calls, ellis in georgia. democrat, good morning. caller: two things i really want to say. i think it is about outdoing the other conventions, because even something saying, this would be

the best, best ever. spending money like that is ruthless. let me ask you one question, sir, why is it necessary to spend all that money to drop some balloons and confetti that will have to be picked up the next day? is that really necessary? host: we will take the question. guest: i would say there are really two pieces to that. one, in terms of what it takes to make sure the convention happens, we did not come up with .his out of thin air the budget's id. with the guidance of the parties on both sides. we were bidding on democrat and and theyn convention, know over years and years of experience what is needed to run the convention. an incredibly tiny amounts, probably .5 percent of the budget, if that, is spent on how

to make cleveland ready in terms of how it looks. are where local organizations, foundations pitch in because they care about our community. but it is important. when we silly want to host the best convention ever, we want the world watching to walk away saying, that is a great city, we want to go back as a visitor and bring other conventions back. we did not know cleveland was this beautiful. i would say most important me what makes a great is the people. we have thousands of volunteers at the airport, street corners, welcoming people. they're genuinely inside it and -- excited and it is not about politics. them watching some of yesterday walk around, and anybody they could stop, are you having a good time, and that is what is what a great convention is about. host: on the line for democrats, tommy in ohio.

good morning. are you there? caller: yes, hello? host: go ahead. caller: greetings from ohio. have a great shot of the north coast behind you. that will change drastically. mr. gilbert, two questions. are you related to dan gilbert, owner of the cleveland cavaliers ? i notice in cleveland you have a lot of panhandlers, homeless, have they been coordinated during this time to have their certain place where they can gather, just like the protesters? thank you. thank you, i appreciate the comments on our beautiful city. no relation to dan gilbert, although i get it all the time.

and a lifelong clevelander like others, we are still on the high from the championship victory. in terms of homeless, yes, there has been a lot of attention given. been working with united way and other social agencies for months to make sure the homeless and other groups are accommodated during the convention. host: what goes into that? is a gathering and coordinating agencies to making sure people know that if there are street closures and other things, where can people go? and makingnication sure that the shelters need extended hours, that the homeless and other populations nowhere to go and how to get there, so it is coronation and communication. host: speaking about behind us, you are talking about making cleveland pretty and making it look -- what did you have to do to the queue? guest: if you go inside, the

committee on arrangements is their job to design and transformed the arena from a basketball arena into a place to hold the convention. were amazing what they able to do. typically it is done in 6.5 to seven weeks and they had to do it in four weeks because of the championship. when game six was over, by midnight, you had workers inside from the committee on arrangements and the contractors doing the work. it is an amazing transformation getting media suites and building the stages, pretty amazing. host: we are showing our viewers with the inside looks like. you have the lower part where many of the delegates get to sit , so it is the rnc committee and arrangements in charge of everything inside. guest: right. host: activity on the outside? is that we are committee falls? cases, yes.me transportation is one done by

the coa with our input, hotels, venues, some input by the committee on arrangements great it is a lot of teamwork. mary, our last for david gilbert, republican in kentucky. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to thank you for c-span. i am a junkie of c-span, whatever you call it, i love it. i love watching c-span because it shows me -- a la the of the congress and senate and how they proclaim to be professionals. i would like to ask my former president, who are greatly love and respect, president george bush, to respect the word of the republican party. the old-timers in the old day when they gave their word, they kept it. man, heal theis country and bring the republican party back together.

i was a democrat when clinton was in office. partieslied, i changed because that don't cut it. so getp your word, behind him. i am sorry you lost, and i am sorry mr. kasich lost, but grow up. become a true american and a true republican and help this country heal. host: all right, mary. we will leave it there. in our closing minutes, what role does the governor play with the convention, if any? what will you watch for tomorrow as things kick off at 1:00 p.m. eastern time? guest: the governor was very helpful and part of our full effort in getting the convention to cleveland. i would imagine that in all cities that were bidding that it they were republican officials

or democrats, depending on which they were bidding on, that those folks would've advocated for having the convention in their states. in terms of what we oliticalg and we are ap and history is being made in our city. it is exciting. tical for us, but we are excited that people will be watching cleveland. with something like this, all you can do is prepare the best you can in every way, shape and form, and react to whatever happens, whether it is people on the street demonstrating, the just six of transportation, security or other events. we have hundreds of people, thousands of volunteers, that are there and network to help us react to whatever happens to make sure this comes off in a wonderful way. host: are you getting sleep? guest: not a lot.

we have been counting down. we have accounts on clock in the office. one is for the day the convention starts and the other is the day it ends, so great for cleveland but it will be good to have life back to normal a little bit. ater: we will get to that in minute but brand-new pullout by nbc and "the wall street journal." clinton's five-point lead into conventions, released about 10 minutes ago trade on the ease of the gop convention, hillary clinton maintains a five-point national lead over donald trump, even after a time of negative news for the presumptive democratic nominee, according to the new nbc news "wall street journal" poll. also, the front pages of the ohio newspaper, the "cincinnati inquirer," full-page -- welcome to ohio? , and you can see it is a full-page with buttons, columbus,capital of

"the columbus dispatch columbus dispatch" has articles about the gop convention and an inside view of the q and uneasy about unrest, the story they have as well. then you go up to cleveland, where it is being held, so there is no story. it is about turkey and this is "the clevelandof plain dealer." my guess is they will have tomorrow news about convention. in "politico" there is this article, last stand at cleveland convention. repairing the final, desperate maneuver to have donald trump to the republican nomination. they are down to their final day. hotelsed meetings and in in downtown cleveland on

saturday, deflated leaders of the effort discuss the slower parliamentary tactics that may disrupt the gop national convention that begins on monday, but they are unlikely to derail trump himself. that in "politico." an op-ed written by former representative pete, republican of michigan, and he attes -- stop trumpers convention he to respect gop voters. the representative rights, i will participate in the republican national convention this week for the first time as anelegate and not as elected official. it is not my first rodeo but it will become the first in which i will directly cast a ballot of the republican presidential nominee. i campaigned for the position with my friend john kasich, who delegates in michigan's republican primary. it was important that the

delegates commit themselves to the importance of the outcome of the vote to ensure the integrity of the process. donald trump won sufficient delegates throughout the primaries to secure the nomination. unfortunately, some folks are not happy with the results. the stop from movement materialized to initiate before fight at the convention. to unbind delegates from the candidates, whom the grassroots chose, and instead follow their conscience. it will not be known until monday whether they built enough support for their efforts after the party rules committee started down this week. if a vote occurs in actually won, it could become that historic occasion envisioned a few months ago. how about about? is no.wer he says it is unfortunate that some republicans do not accept the conclusion of the process. former representatives peaked. -- i presented it p[ete. --pete.

host: the head of >> as we continue here at the sight of the republican national convention, we continue to take phone calls until the top of the hour. . democrats, (202)-748-8001. .ndependents, (202)-748-8002 peter talking about the delicates and those who would like to vote their conscience, as they said, and that played out in the rules committee last week. the number of delegates in his thousand 472. some are 2000 -- 2000 and alternatives and the number needed to win is 1237, so there will be voting. the republicans have not required more than one ballot to pick their nominee since 1948, since new york governor tom dooley one and the third ballot. in the first round, almost all

the delegates will be bound to a presidential candidate. 5% are unbound, including most of pennsylvania. if they were to somehow get around to, delegates from 36 ,tates become fully unbound about 1400 roll, around 59%, are unbound, and they could go to a third round. we will have to see how things play out tomorrow. time on:00 p.m. eastern c-span, www.c-span.org come and get that radio app case you're nowhere near a computer screen or tv and you can hear it as h minute unfolds on the convention floor at the q. your calls continuing for about the next 45 minutes. let me go to earnest in north carolina, democrat. you are on the air. caller: how are you doing?

host: good morning. , i am: what i have to say 63 years old. always listening and voting. this is the first time in my lifetime i ever heard donald trump with words he says and how is a saying that as if it surprise [indiscernible] i will not go for someone who knows nothing about politics and does not know what is happening in the country. tois really surprising someone who has bankrupt and in a lot of things to a lot of people. it really surprised me for everyone to really take that in.

it really surprises me. last time a businessman was nominated at the republican convention was 1940, a wall street-based industrialist, former democrat, was the teddy roosevelt delegate in 1932. he lost to fdr. let's go to virginia, republican in ohio. caller: hello. host: you are on the air. caller: thank you. we do have a right to protest, but we have to have it peaceful. my question is, these people being paid to protest, i hope they do it peacefully. if not, and if they were not being paid, would they go home and get a job? are they on welfare? that is my question. host: virginia, over our and we are the q situated above one mile away

from the skylight financial group base. us or from ourde , one of thee q major roads has been blocked off for the protesters, which we just learned will start around monday afternoon. times of thetain day that they are allowed to make this trip in march down the road toward the q, so we will have some of that. we will see that unfolding, lots of security. that is around downtown cleveland, secret service, along enforcement for the state of ohio, city of cleveland, and they have brought in hundreds of law enforcement from other parts of the country to keep the city and the expected 50,000 people that are visiting because of the convention safe.