from the skylight financial group base. us or from ourde , one of thee q major roads has been blocked off for the protesters, which we just learned will start around monday afternoon. times of thetain day that they are allowed to make this trip in march down the road toward the q, so we will have some of that. we will see that unfolding, lots of security. that is around downtown cleveland, secret service, along enforcement for the state of ohio, city of cleveland, and they have brought in hundreds of law enforcement from other parts of the country to keep the city and the expected 50,000 people that are visiting because of the convention safe.

wrong, democrat in north carolina. good morning. democrat in north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: doing well. what are your thoughts on this campaign in 2016? amazing.t is i walked in last night and watched c-span and you are running the previous conventions to 1996. as i watched those conventions and what was going on, i started thinking to myself the same issues that were going on then ,re still here today, and i did after he lost his bid for bysidency, i got to meet him chance. sometimes, we watch the news and we listen to the people that run those campaigns, and as i talked

to bob dole, i thought, wow, this never came out during your campaign. if this part of you, the person i am talking to here and now, would have came out, it would have been different for you. look at the campaign today and we went to talk about donald trump, hillary clinton, and, yes, everybody, even myself, we all have issues, but today, we do not have the candidates running because we dig so deep into their backgrounds and nobody has a great background. i look at the convention that is going on today and we talk about donald and who he is, hillary and who she is, but in america, i would really like to see our congress, and everybody start thinking about where you are and what you are doing in your life. -- this is notdy

so much what your country is doing for you, but what are you doing for your country? i think that is a very strong statement. we need to start looking first in our own homes and then our own cities and own towns. we cannot look at somebody else to change the issues that are going on today. it is a shame. understand people's frustration, but we really have to start from the home, to the city, to the state, and then to the government, and we cannot just look at one person. donald trump will not do it. hillary will not do it. host: all right, let me leave your thoughts there and go on to rose in tennessee, republican. caller: how are you? host: good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. first, i am a trump supporter, but i really want to speak to the last guest you had on, mr.

gilbert? host: uh-huh. amazed people do not understand how conventions work and how the bidding process works throughout the country. there were several callers that insinuated that, well, his job was for the republicans, and the way it works is cleveland could have been on the republican convention, they could have made a bid for the democratic convention, like the democrats will have their convention in philadelphia, cities across the country bid for different conventions, whether republican, democratic, the hardware convention, the booksellers convention, all these different conventions going on all of the inntry, and cities put bids to try to entice different conventions to come to their

city because of the influx, if they have the proper is because of, it the influx of all those dollars that are going to come in for hotels, motels, restaurants, ons, different venues going around the conventions and the tourism dollars. that is where i wish people would understand. is an paid for by the democrats as far as having the convention there, and neither is cleveland for the republicans. it is just the way the system works throughout the country for -- you know, kinds farmers convention, whatever, and eyelid in nashville and we have many different conventions of all types come to our town. host: does it help the city? caller: absolutely. dollars and millions of

pour into the town. is fordy says nashville music, but we are of the convention town and i am not involved in it, but even part-time jobs because of conventions. i have many friends who were conventions to greet the people who come in the airport were greet them at the airport or greet them at the hotels and take them on tours, just to be for manya host city different types of conventions, so i just want to set this up record straight out there. cleveland, they are expecting 50,000 visitors, thousands of delegates, staff, law enforcement, the media, 15,000 credential outlets all descending on this town spending money, going out to eat, etc., so we will see with economic

benefit turns out to be for the city of cleveland. they made a pitch to the democrats and republicans to have their party conventions here. it will be the fourth time for the republicans to have the convention in ohio. this will be the third time for the city of cleveland, first and peter has6 more details about this time around in cleveland. about you are talking tourists coming into the city and conventions. we are following the delegates' tweets and the barber, the secretary of minnesota, and she is already in cleveland. --e is one she sent out impressed with the seal of the city. brussels like in shopping, restaurant area, vibrant street scenes. she sent out some pictures of cleveland, so she is already there. joe is there as well.

he is from mississippi. he has got a picture here with some folks and u.s. representative kelly is with them in cleveland. that is their delegation. he was michael williams from georgia, two of the things i am most excited about while receiving at the rnc, you can see the hat and the credentials that they get. it is numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 and there, coded and specific to each day and it depends on how far you can get depending on the color of your bill from south carolina showing a worship service this morning for the gop folks in cleveland. speakers and the night they are speaking.

the convention begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow and c-span will have a pregame show and be live that will begin at about noon. tomorrow, some of the speakers include jameel shaw senior, his son was killed by an undocumented immigrant, senator giuliani,ansas, rudy trump, joni ernst, and on tuesday, daniel white, president of the ultimate fighting championship group, arkansas governor asa hutchinson, michael, who served as attorney general for george bush, and retired former defense intelligence agency and mitch mcconnell, tiffany tromp, donald trump junior and the scott walker, governor of wisconsin. on wednesday night, the speakers include the attorney general of

florida, first female commander of the space shuttle mission, newt gingrich, ted cruz, natalie golda's, a professional golfer, and vice presidential nominee speakerce as the final on wednesday night. thursday night, marsha blackburn , congresswoman from tennessee, reince priebus, florida governor rick scott, who is having a fundraiser in florida for mr. trump on july 26, $25,000 per couple, is longer trump -- ivank a and donald trump speaking, and some others have not been scheduled as of yet. host: more of your calls this morning on "the washington journal" as you continue live from cleveland, the site of the

2016 republican national convention. what are your thoughts as the convention gets underway tomorrow? things kickoff at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. what do you think about how this is unfolding? donald trump announcing this is presidential pick indiana mike -- vice presidential pick indiana governor mike pence. have the, we will vi final life to the convention on thursday and have coverage throughout the week on c-span, www.c-span.org and the c-span radio app, and taking your phone calls, not only on "the washington journal" in the morning starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern and throughout the morning, but before the convention gets underway and after, so we want to hear from you. what do you think as the process unfolds about what you are hearing ahead of the convention and doing it as well? let me hear from charles in

michigan, democrat. you are next. hi, nice to see c-span and i want to get a chance to speak to you. host: glad you called in. caller: i would like to say that the constant theme of the republicans meeting next week one less government. you hear it all the time. i just like to remind people of some words from the declaration of independence that says people have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that you do phrase not hear too often is in order to secure these things, covenants are instituted -- governance are instituted among men, so it might almost say that the republicans that want smaller government, less government, that they also want less life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to the

average person. what do you think about that? host: why do you say that, ?harles question well, government makes things like social security, medicaid, medicare, and those are made by governments, aren't they? you want less of those social programs. let me ask, who did you support in the democratic primary process? host: i certainly am going to vote for hillary clinton and i think that one of the reasons people always think that she is so dishonest is because there has been a propaganda think all the way from [indiscernible] going back to the 1990's. they hire people to say these things and it has been said over, and over and over and people here those things and

they just repeat them. iso not believe that she anymore dishonest than any other politician, and certainly she is not -- mr. trump says he is going to bring all these jobs back. you know perfectly well that is not possible to do that. the world has moved beyond that stage, so that is really a terrible like to tell people. independent get an from ohio, tell us where akron is compared to cleveland. caller: akron is smaller than cleveland, number one, and number two, i just want to know, all this money going into the conventions, why is it not given to the poor people to help them survive? if the government is so worried about the poor people, why is this not?

you talk about who tells the truth, well, neither one tells the truth. but who is the worst? sold us out hasn't and hillary clinton did, she did it to russia, to get back to the convention, it is nice that they come, just like anything else, everybody needs a lift up, a helping hand, but the thing of it is, those that are coming, i pray to god, and i mean god, nobody else because the 10 commandments, if you do not follow them, i do not know what you are doing, anyway, you sit there and people come, please, do not do this and act a full. .- act a fool people are looking at us, and if they say something happens here, we might have the same president for the next four years. please, let us do have a change. let us have a better life coming.

think about what you are going to vote about and think about the table. all of them have got more than we,o, and put it this way, the people, we have to take care of each other and look after each other, so let us all come together in god's eyes and they should this convention and anything else that comes about be done in truth and honesty and for the justice of everybody and god bless. right.ll next call from christina and ohio, republican. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i live -- or right outside of cleveland. i just want to say that cleveland is a great city to

showcase. you have a beautiful venue behind you. the people here have midwest facts and i appreciate the that my son is actually involved in the security detail, so we hope this is a peaceful convention and that you appreciate the fact that the infrastructure from going forward for the city has been about welcoming people to this convention and into the future that they return to cleveland so they have good memories. as youk, christina, and said, hoping people stay safe. there will be protesting for all the different media that is covering the convention and there are 15,000 credentialed attention,rnational international media that has

come to cleveland to cover the republican convention. this it all unfold but year is different. "the washington post" notes that news outlets are issuing gas masks, protective equipment to journalists who find themselves , and theyprotests have also held seminars, training sessions about what journalists should do if they're caught in the middle of a violent standoff between protesters and police officers. the media on your screen inside the q, cnn is there, nbc promoting "meet the press" and all the different media outlets getting there different suites inside of the q so they can bring you the action live as it unfolds. you can see there, make america great again, donald trump's tagline and taking an appearance inside the q, 800 -- 1800 signs

set up for inside the arena. the delegates sitting down there on the floor. you can see the signs that are put up so delegates know where they are going to go. as we learned earlier, ohio got put off to the side. they are usually a battleground state in front and new york getting prime real estate this time around. the map for all the different delegates can be found on twitter and other places if you are interested in that social media. c-span'syou go to twitter handle, you can find the what the lists of social media has compiled to follow the action on twitter. we have a list of delegates, convention reporters, convention speakers. if you want to find out what they're doing, what they're up to in cleveland, many going to parties, delegate breakfasts,

etc. and c-span has been in cleveland now for over one week. we spoke recently with the convention digital director samantha's born about the technology samantha -- samantha osborne about the technology being used, including a new app and snapchat. take a look. samantha: the media is changing right now, so we have to adapt. it is really exciting in the way of the digital aspects convention, huge priority for the cycle. we made the priority to get messages out to voters. we are integrating this component into everything we touch, making sure there is constant communication. we are trying to create opportunity to capture content and take people behind-the-scenes, operations that support that and we will be

doing 360 lives, which we are excited about and we will be integrating facebook, twitter into a lot of what we are doing. help bringp will information about the proceedings, it is directly in the palm of your hand, the schedule, the speaker bios, livestream it there, including the 360, and we will also have any kind of experience built-in for the folks coming to cleveland, so information about transportation, information about things going on around cleveland and there will be a direction finding, so we are excited, and from being at home to here at the republican convention, it will give the q more access. it is about more than just being in front of your tv screen and staying in your seat to watch it. it will make everything connected and i think that is important.

it will really help improve the experience and our engagements with people our age. , weou watch our snapchat will use that new platform that will be integrated into our plan and be able to reach promoters there and set the unique convention insight to the platform, so we are excited to get that off the ground. facebook will have some buildup space and they will be helping us with getting backstage content from our stickers on instagram, so you can look at the instagram gop convention. helping with that content collection as well, and they will have some space on media row and elsewhere. we also have google, artificial live stream video provider, so you can see the stream on our youtube channel, gop convention, and they will also have it filled out. great to see that the companies actually have a physical presence and not just online presence.

we have our little mascot here, flat stanleyeated content campaign around her, use #gop and you can see some of the things she has done and we have shared it with parties, delegations and they have been sharing it online, and you have heard everybody taking pictures and keep on the lookout for her and we will see more during the convention. we are really working hard and you will have about several or 50 plus professionals to help us support our operations and we are appreciative of that. it takes a lot of work to go into it. i imagine i'll be running around everywhere, but we had content teams that try to capture the delegates from the events going around the convention. supportalso be having

for live streaming and making sure speeches are automatic and archived after their completed. it is really about making sure everything is amplified and the moments living on past the conclusion of the program for each evening. we are bringing the convention online, making it accessible online, creating opportunities for people engaged in the convention and beyond the speeches. it is exciting and we think we are going in a good direction to make sure that no matter what you want the vehicle to be, you will engage with convention. host: that was the digital director for the republican national convention in cleveland, ohio. , about one mile from where we are situated, we are at the skylight financial group facilities, spaced in downtown cleveland, and inside , the final preparations are underway. they are getting ready for tomorrow to kick off at 1:00 p.m. eastern time.

that screen there, very high resolution, the highest resolution that they could get. it will be interesting to see how they use that curved the screen and new technology, ask samantha was talking about their , when we talk to the digital director recently, and the chairs on the floor are for the delegates, and they will have prime seating for the housekeeping that they will do starting on monday, but also, all of the speeches and the speaker list that peter talked about earlier has been released. there have been some tweaks, subtractions, ads, people saying that they are coming to cleveland for the convention and others saying that they will not be attending. we will hear from the presumptive republican nominee on thursday night, and that is when he loses that perceptive from the -- presumptive from the front of this title and he will be the nominee for the republican party.

donald trump, who yesterday in his vice announced president running mate, indiana governor mike pence, who will also get some prime time at the republican convention. we are getting your thoughts this morning on the convention, one day before it starts, and we will go to marcus in new york, republican. you are next. good morning. caller: good morning. at these mad as hell a gunheads making this free zone. don't they know that guns make people safer? that would be the safest place in the world if they let everyone there open carry their guns. those protesters were not try anything, but i do not know. we all know that guns do not kill people. we are all just immortal souls trapped in the temporary shelter of meat and earth.

i am so disappointed in these freakin bureaucrats. an openere is a still carry law that exists in cleveland, but there is a perimeter, the closest circle andde the q and arena certain things will not be allowed in that perimeter that could be threatening to those that are inside the convention hall and also the candidates gettinges that are secret service protection, secret service in charge of what is going on inside the q and the security for it. there is also lots of law enforcement outside of the quicken loans arena in downtown cleveland. ist outside our studio there a major thoroughfare that goes from our studio to downtown cleveland, and that has been blocked off as well for

protesters, who will be wanting to make their way and give their voices to whatever causes they care about as they march along from just behind our studio to the quicken loans. there is the road right there as they march their way to the q. we expect that to happen tomorrow afternoon at some point and we will begin to see the protesters. it starts at 1:00 p.m. eastern time on monday, an afternoon session, and then on tuesday, it will get underway later in the day, as well as wednesday and thursday night for prime time around 7:00 p.m. eastern time. you can join in on the conversation by calling in to c-span during our productions. phone calls before and after and on "the washington arenal congo but if you

active on social media, you -- "the washington journal," but you are active on social media, you can share your clips on a website and we have a special page for viewers with the latest scheduling information to let you know what is happening at each convention session, video on demand of every speaker to access and share it quickly, and you must conference of guide of every moment of the convention floor because we will not be interrupting it. there backs we will open our phone lines again -- again tomorrow. our guests include elizabeth on them and randy evans. that's tomorrow live at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span.

>> good afternoon. day before the cattle comes down for the republican national isvention and cleveland making preparations for his first political convention since 1960. the local arena, known as the pew, the home of nba champions. it will host the delegates, alternates, and party activists 's. c-span will be your place to watch the convention and for the next hour, we will preview the politics and logistics of the upcoming convention. we will begin with steve sully on the floor of the convention

center. steve: thanks for being here with us. be with you, steve. about somes talk events and then we will talk politics. the crew in turkey, is that an indication of how uncertain the world is? of this?ghts on all >> it's a manifestation of the lakh of leadership. i met with the prior prime minister and we talked about this and the danger that the muslim brotherhood is still very active. this is a fluid situation. do not have a plan in syria. .e do not have a plan for isis we have confused our allies and embolden our enemies. we got to fix this. u.n. donald trump very critical of the administration.

what should they be doing in turkey and against isis they are not? >> have a united front against putin. and this is not about u.s. troops on the ground. we need to talk about a sunni force to get bashar al-assad out of power. interdictions,r a shipment of arms -- so america needs to lead again and come up with that global policy prices in syria. should point out this is all part of the rehearsal for the convention that gets underway tomorrow. donald trump says it is time to rethink our role in nato. should we? putin is looking at weakness there. you talk to people in europe and i have met several heads of state. they are asking for u.s. leadership right now. we are asking them to invest more in the military. a point in time where we are showing weakness to putin

and a time when he is being very aggressive in not just crimea and ukraine and georgia, but even in the baltic states. so, i'm very concerned about that. we need to show leadership and a solid front. have pretty good real estate for one of these conventions. >> i have never been to one of these. georgia is the eighth largest state. it is one of the states the trump campaign has said lever important. i talked to the georgia delegation of lunch. we want to win georgia early. we want to demonstrate the georgia is not in play and divergent resources. i think donald trump will win in georgia very big. look at our races two years ago. an outsider business guy. i was listening to folks back home. this is your first convention? >> absolutely. steve: everyone says that donald trump and the republicans need

to have a good for days. to find that. >> i disagree. this is about the folks back home. they want changes in washington. are more motivated by the lakh of results -- lack of ownlts then by their politics. we need to unite behind the failures of the barack obama administration, the doubling down on that at hillary gunter promises, and then the direction republicans want for the country. of mikehe selection pence, your reaction? >> i love needs someoned he who deals with legislatures. together, they make a great team . to point out the failures of the obama administration, the failures of hillary clinton's potential administration. voter turnout for the republican primary was up 60%.

that has never happened before. we are bringing in a whole new generation of voters. steve: at what point did you know you were going to win the ?ace poll numbers show the donald trump campaign is down i four or ine percentage points, and key battleground states, italy clinton is ahead. >> were talking about that. the national polls of me down for five points the week or two before our election and we won by a points. what i have been telling the -- stay thes that course. keep talking about what you're talking about. lay into the fact that we have a global security crisis and an economic financial crisis and need a different direction. we need someone not locked into the power of washington to set a new course for us. i think that is what he is the

opportunity to do now. steve: you are here, but a lot of your colleagues or not. the governor of ohio will not here.ot rob portman will not be speaking. why is that? >> he's a different candidate. i was a different candidate. i was not embraced initially by the establishment. but the grassroots in georgia my the hind my -- behind campaign. right now we have the high ground of the failures of this administration, the failures of .he aggressive movement if we educate people about that, this election won't even be close. i am not concerned about early polls. and there are so many voters not being included in those polls, they do not mean a lot now. my encouragement is he has brought a whole new group of people into the political arena to vote, maybe some of them for the first time.

steve: a lot of republicans still have not embraced donald trump. they do not know if he is conservative. they do not know if they can trust him. what would you tell those republicans? >> get over it. you have a clear choice between hillary clinton and donald trump. she is talking about tax increases, more regulation, weaker foreign policy. all things that obama has done. on the other hand, obama is an outsider, business guy. he is talking about a fair deal with trade. these are things i hear back home people are really concerned about. steve: you are here along with your wife. give us a personal sense of what this is like for you. with the georgia delegation today? >> i am humbled. i have never done this before. some of these people have been active in the party for over a decade. we had to 18-year-olds, one delegate and one alternate that are delegates. 18 years old.

i am encouraged that are delegation is united. we will make sure we close it out for donald trump in georgia. it be fun, uncertain, chaotic? >> i'm encouraged by one thing. we have an opportunity for a candidate who can change the direction of the country. this is not about stump speeches. this is about a movement. people in america are giving a message to washington. democracy is working. this is so encouraging to me. bere'll probably disagreements, but there's going to be unity when we come out of this. i fully expect that. that now is the time to change the direction of the country. thanks are being with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks, steve. we look for to seeing you guys this week. steve: susan, back to you. susan: thank you, steve, 24

hours before the republicans begin their joint 16 party convention. just a note on logistics, c-span broadcasting gavel-to-gavel, no commentary. on monday, the start time is 1 p.m. eastern time. that is also when the committees will make the report to the convention delegation. tuesday, 5:30 p.m. is the start time. wednesday, 7 p.m., and thursday, 7:30 p.m. eastern time to review can watch it live on c-span tv, listen to it on c-span's radio app or our website. to shanetroduce you from politico. this with republicans, international security going on,

a lot of domestic issues, police shootings and the black lives matter movement after shootings in police custody, and also with the republican ticket down in the polls we have seen. what did they have to do over the next four days? shane: yeah, there has been so much news in the last few weeks it will be hard for the republicans even to focus american voters on this. what the republican party needs to do is present its self as unified and together. donald trump fractured the republican party in the primary this year. voters who were supportive of ted cruz, voters supportive of jeb bush -- these folks have been reluctant to support donald thep simply because politicians they supported are reluctant to support donald trump. so -- shane, if you take a look at the speakers they have lined up the next couple of days, what image are they presenting for the public here? shane: they are not presenting

the same diverse image they were hoping to present in 2012 and past cycles. what you're looking at is an older set of speakers, a less diverse set of speakers, and a white set of speakers. susan: and can you also tell us a little bit more about -- sorry -- i know it's a very busy for you on the convention floor. they are pumping the music as we are speaking here. can you tell us a little bit more about what the candidates are doing going into the convention? where is he today and how is he using his time? shane: the big announcement he made was the end of last week. that was his vice president. he selected mike pence, popular among conservative republicans, and this is a big moment. the problem for donald trump is he struggled with the rollout. when he did the rollout, he a digital -- hold him

at second, i am having trouble with this. he did a digital rollout those incredibly lacking. when he announced the pic, he announced on his website. they had a logo they had to cancel less than 24 hours later because of controversy. and his wife and children are dominating the program. longtime republicans are going to be absent politically. shane, we will be back to you in a couple minutes if you will stand by. next, let's go back to steve. we pickusan, of course, the one time there is a rehearsal going on, but we are joined by john spicer who has been part of these conventions for how many years now? john: i started going to conventions in 2000, so 16 years.

steve: give us a sense of the planning, how many years went into this and the venue? started wellnning over two years ago. staff starts to work with the city. putting everything together from the venue, hotel preparations, and then the weeks preceding, we get the speakers nailed down and things like that. our audience getting a sense of what is happening one day before the convention, the music, testing the teleprompter. what is happening the hind the scenes. john: speeches are going into teleprompters, you hear the speakers, they are making sure the podium height is correct, they are checking the microphone. tomorrow, when the gavel

comes down at 1:00 in the afternoon, what is the first order of business? a great question. two things happen at conventions. obviously what everybody knows about is we nominate a president and a vice presidential candidate of our already. we reconstitute the party as an institute -- as an entity. we passed the rules the party is governed by and how the rnc is regulated and governed. tomorrow, we set -- we start at 1:00. we go through a series of reports. we talk about the platform committee, the rules committee, permanent organization and credentials and establish this body, establish the delegates as being official delegates and go on with the business of the party to reconstitute it. then in the evening, we reconvene after a short dinner break and that is the part that most people tune in for, the speaker series starts. different folks will start speaking tomorrow. we covered the platform -- the platform and

there was a lot of discussion of the never trump movement. that was voted down. are you prepared for uncertainty, delegates who will say we will not support our nominee? john: you can never prepare for anything. prepare forever everything. there's a lot of talk, a lot of tweets, phone calls, but very little action. we continue to unite as a party and tomorrow will kick off what will be the beginning of a successful run to the general election. that: we are hearing donald trump will be in the queue tomorrow to introduce drum. a trump -- melania john: that will be his to decide. we look for to resist from speaking. you need a good four days. what is that? knowingople come out donald trump the person.

a lot of people see them on tv, whether it is "the apprentice" or other things he has done -- you will hear from his family, his friends, business associates who have worked for him for 10, 20, 30 years. they will talk about the man he is. i hope they come away knowing better who hillary clinton is and they see the contrast between donald trump and hillary clinton, what is at stake and the difference a republican would make versus a far left, craddick agenda. to say i see principles and values and solutions i want to be part of the party. steve: the orchestra behind you -- is that live music? >> i don't know. i would have to turn around and that would be rude to c-span viewers. steve: thank you for being here. susan: steve, you are doing a

better job hearing than i am up here. it's pretty loud. thank you for bearing with us with all of the rehearsals going on behind you. one of the areas you have been focusing on covering the selection has really been on finances for the party. would you talk about the situation for the republicans financially -- not only a around this election, but for the general? the convention has a fund and that fund are short on money. right now, they announced they were $6 million short, just days before the convention was set to begin and they sent a last-minute letter to sheldon adelson, where the most prominent financiers, asking him -- to post the gap. that information they provided him was wrong. numerous companies canceled

donations because of mr. trump and it turned out that the companies listed were inaccurate and they had to issue an apology to him soon afterwards. susan: what happens next? shane: the convention, they are not too concerned. the bigger problem for the republican party is the complete lack of money they have. mr. trump had not been fundraising through the primary. he self-funded his campaign. he is relying on donors for the first time and he does not have a network of donors like almost any previous presumptive republican nominee. fundraising. they raised $50 million, but he needs tens and tens of millions of dollars behind tillie clinton who has been on the airwaves for weeks and weeks with ads. donald trump's campaign and the republican party has spent zero dollars in any battleground state so far. mr. trump -- susan:

has had great success with free media attention and social media. will that be as helpful for him ?oing into the general it's incredibly helpful. he does live interviews throughout the day, tweets in the evening. .hat said, campaigns cost money to figure out what doors you want to knock on, all of that cost money. packaging his record the way he wants to package it, that costs money. they do not have enough money to run a national campaign. susan: i want to show people how the party is presenting itself. i want to show the lineup. that begins with the monday lineup.

these are some of the highlights , obviously not the full agenda. on monday, among the elected and former elected officials, we had sessions, rudy p, michaelmelania trum flynn, and joni ernst of iowa. we see a number of people we onlier had heard might be the candidate for a list of potential running mates. of looking at the tuesday lineup, if we can show people speaking tuesday night at the convention -- and i'm waiting for it to come up -- paul ryan, the house ofaker, dana white, from u c, senator mitch mcconnell, governor chris christie of new jersey, donald trump junior, and dr. ben carson. let me stop and return to you.

let me ask about the candidate's speaking monday night. that is the traditional night , thehe candidate's spouse first lady's night. we have not seen a great deal of her in this campaign. what are the expectations of her presentation here. we have seen almost none of her. the last time she came out publicly and gave them didn't speech of any kind was around the wisconsin primary. this was when dump truck was getting in hot water with issues around women, comments about donald trump- when was getting in hot water with issues around women, comments about megyn kelly. for the most part, she has been completely absent. this is an opportunity for the trump campaign. no one knows who his wife is.

potentially she can show a different side of him and make an appeal on her own for voters. which presents an opportunity for the campaign? shane: absolutely. the challenge for the trump campaign is they are missing some of the biggest republican stars -- candidates like marco bigo and nikki haley, picture names, people who are women and minorities. instead he is relying heavily on members of his own family -- a trump, eric trump, donald trump junior, ivanka trump. they're hoping his family members can sell him better than he did, something michelle obama did repeatedly throughout the country. susan: when we do see the congressional leaders on tuesday, one of the challenges they face in this particular convention? shane: a great deal of

challenges. paul ryan is one of the most interesting characters to watch this week, both on the convention floor where he is expected to serve as chairman, as well as at parties around cleveland. he has endorsed donald trump, but really rather tepidly after weeks of waffling and indecision. he is trying to promote something he calls "a better way," the republican house agenda, laws he would like to see enacted under the next residence. there is not a great deal of overlap between the paul ryan agenda and the agenda donald trump put forward. on trade they disagree fundamentally, entitlements, they disagree fundamentally. what am i watching for with paul ryan? what does he talk about? donald trump and his agenda or house republicans and their agenda? he is trying to unite party by supporting mr. trump, but they have huge disagreements and it's whether he talks about his agenda or mr. trump fell's. susan: returning to the senate,

you mentioned incumbent senators up for reelection are not going to be here. how are they spending their time question mark our they telling their constituents a are spending their time and explaining they are not here for their party's convention? every -- shane: they have excuse under the sun. some of my colleagues at politico just did a story. -- theyfrom a haircut range from a haircut -- marco rubio has endorsed a trump but has decided to run for reelection in lord up. most of the senators up for reelection are avoiding cleveland, instead going back to their own states. it's a time for them to differentiate themselves. the republican presidential candidate is there. he believes one set of things. i believe something else. john mccain is that going to be here. previous republican nominees and presidents will not be here. mitt romney, george w. bush,

w. bush. the only one expected to attend is bob dole, the republican nominee in 1996. ?usan: what is the takeaway listening to the unconventional convention that is going to take place over the next couple of days, is it a plus? is it a suggestion it is not politics as usual or something other than that? shane: if donald trump is to be successful, he has to make the election about change and he is an agent of change in a change for all of the voters in america who are unhappy with the situation as is. this is his opportunity to convince the american people hillary clinton does not represent change and we need something new. he has gotten record, record audiences. tens of millions are expected to

tune in. this is one of the few opportunities the campaign had to completely control the agenda. hillary can't and will be listening to her. it will be all mr. trump and his advisers. it's a great opportunity to say i represent something different, and as his slogan says, make america great again. ofan: from the perspective the news media, with the baton rouge police shootings and events in turkey and also with the nice events of the weekend, will the attention of the public actually be elsewhere than cleveland? think that's differently possible. we still getting information about the shootings today in baton rouge. this is a pretty dramatic moment. you are talking about a key country facing a coup in the middle east, and incredibly large terrorist attack in france, to massive police shootings in the united states. we are a country being torn apart. for donald trump, if he has an opportunity to isn't himself as

someone who can unify, he has a chance. that is not what his campaign has been about. he has been very much not a unifying figure. he has divided the republican party, divided democrats from the republicans. you may have a chance. will they be tuned in as much as in another cycle? donald trump has brought incredible audiences. tens of millions will be watching the convention this week. shame you're listening to from politico, part of the politico reporting team on the 2016 election. he will be with us for two or three more minutes and we are taxing him, talking over this rehearsal at the republican convention in cleveland. let me pause and tell you more about the lineup for the .onvention on wednesday, a number of speakers, including space shuttle commander eileen walker, governor scott

from wisconsin who at one point was considering a bit of his own -- senator ted cruz of texas, and you know, of course, the challenger to mr. trump for the nomination this year, eric newt, former house speaker gingrich, another on the short list of possible vp picks. the thursday night lineup -- this is what it looks like. marsha blackburn of tennessee, covers woman, part of the leadership team. governor mary fallin of oklahoma. , jerry followed junior, an early supporter of donald trump, a banco trump -- ivanka job. every minute of the convention without commentary here on c-span. can you talk a little bit about

reince priebus and how he has navigate the challenges within his own party, the potential challenges within the rules committee and the lead up to the start of this convention? reince priebus has had one of the toughest jobs in america. don't trump has been incredibly divisive for his party. -- donald trump has been incredibly divisive for his party. donald trump is being presented as the republican nominee. that said, as trump one state after state, he remained neutral and won the trust of mr. trump and his inner circle and they worked very closely. you asked about the rules committee -- the anti-trump element of the party mounted a challenge to change the rules on the convention floor this week. and it was a complete failure and in part because the trump campaign and closest allies work together.

they were sending text messages to every member to say which way to vote. it was a well oiled machine. reinceend of the day, priebus, while he was neutral during the primaries, once he became the presumptive nominee, preventutely work to problems from him accepting the nomination this week. susan: where are the possible avenues for whatever remnants are left of the stock trump campaign? shane: they have a couple options and goals. they can, as you mentioned, at the beginning of the convention of 1:00, they can ask for different rules to be presented and still get a vote on something called the conscience clause, to not let the delegates vote for who they are bound to on the first ballot, but whoever they want. there's talk of trying to abstain. these are last which efforts. the rules committee fight, it was not close. it was lopsided. they had 10, 12, 20 votes out of

112 people on the panel. on the convention floor, they are still far short. all signs point to donald trump emerging as the republican nominee. are going to let you go. you have been so kind to stay with us. thank you for your patience with all of the noise on the door. tell me how you are spending your week. shane: i will be writing for politico.com stories on some of the speeches in the evening and i'm watching republicans who are angling for what the party looks like after donald trump and after this cycle, candidates trying to protect senate and house seats and figure out what does the republican party stand for? is it protectionist views on trade or free trade? looking at the challenges between the leader of the party about to be elected -- selected rather -- and the traditional leaders of the republican

apparatus who disagree with him on those issues. susan: how do people follow your tweets? shane: you can follow me @shanegoldmacher on twitter. susan: great. shane: thank you. steve, we will return to you on the floor of the quicken loans arena in cleveland. what you have for us? thank you very much, susan. this is the make america great again sign next to the trump-pence sign and is one of many media centers. are multiple passes. this is the path you need for the paris convention. there is a secret service pass for the democratic and republican convention, and this is one of a handful of passes that get us inside the arena on on the door. come on down. take a walk review see off to the right is where cbs this

morning's backing up. they were rehearsing a short while ago with charlie rose and norah o'donnell. they will be back tomorrow morning. to be left, where abc is located. d here.l be locate this used to be a basketball arena. this is where lebron james one with the cleveland cavaliers for the first time in more than 50 years that the city has had a national championship in the course of five weeks, the shortest amount of time for a convention to turn an arena into a venue. they were able to do so from late june, and make it into this political arena today. you can see the podium behind me. we spent some time with mike miller who has been at every convention since 1972, to give you a sense of how the republicans and organizers were preparing for this week will gop convention.

>> we are outside the quicken loans arena and this is the facility where the republican national convention is going to take place. we are standing on level four of the quicken loans arena, and we are in one of the suites -- normally a hospitality suite, which is being converted for broadcast purposes for c-span. on this level, there are some hospitality suites for guests, but there are about 30 broadcast media suites. i was involved in the early fighting, you might say, to get these suites for the media. which is about normal. that's about what we normally do. a while we get the total number, they are signed individually through an intermediate process by the house radio television gallery. they did very well by c-span putting you in this location. the delegates will be seeded facing -- seated facing all of

them, facing the stage, the podium. we call it the podium complex. while the seating chart has not been announced, it is sort of a fan shape with people all facing -- as you move out, they face inward toward the complex, and we have a aisles. move, and people with floor passes can move and what not. we will see that next week when the plan comes out. and all of the color will come in and take place and you will really get a view of it. there are a number of standout broadcast positions. some of those are floor level on each end. there are two huge network anchor booths at the far end. cnn and nbc. they opted for those positions. it cost them more to build,

honestly, than the others. three others are in the upper , what were handicapped seating areas where they have built on them and we have other ample handicapped seating elsewhere, of course. so, you have the broadcasters up here, we call them non-network -- that means they're not one of those five. they may be affiliates of some of those, in other words. we have the same groupings on the floor and some in the areas, too. on the floor, if you can see sides,here are two major and they will have a television pool camera on the front. and the same way the big center camera stands if you see it here on the podium.

we have the television cameras and thehouse camera upper tier will be still photographers. they are in six positions with tables and electrical and internet capability of built-in. they are decorated with the red, white, and blue and the stars. at the stage reflects a trend started in 1996 in san diego with steps in the front. and those steps were put in and the podium we call the stage was lowered somewhat to give a feeling of openness. a lot like a 10 foot high battleship approach where you look down on the delegates. that has endured. we have had steps in every design since then. this particular design was the executiveby

producer, and the designer, joe stewart from los angeles, and another designer from new york, and they have done this for us before. see it has big screens and large steps. what we are not seeing today, there is a tremendous way we can ary the lights. as you can see, people will enter from one side and make their speech and exit from the other side. and there is a small bandstand to one side where a house band will keep the flavor, and there could be some other entertainment. we mentioned the lighting grid and other things -- i think the 140,000 pounds. it reminds me when we went to the houston astrodome in 1992.

of their were no records to show what the ceiling could old. the most bed ever hung on there was 40,000, 50,000 pounds and we were going to hang at least 125,000 pounds. we had to do all he studies to see if it would hold our weight. it was a disaster for a convention type thing. built for spoken word at the floor level. there was an at going there. if you said something at the floor level, it echoed throughout the place. sound would go in some of the crevices and come out like in a good chamber, louder than it went in. we had to deal with that, too. that brings us to the fact that, you know, the sports arenas are more modern. this one is more modern. we had some acoustical improvements to make here at the floor level and they are going to work fine.

but i think this is our fifth straight convention at a sports arena. prior to that we were into dome stadiums, in two dome in new orleans and houston. this is become the standard of what you see. we are in what has become known as media row. . we can enhance it and make it more than radio talk shows. they can have broadcast positions in near and also be digital media. the new angle is this is the digital age and that will all be in here. there would be defined spaces and we have quite a seeming design to spruce this place up. you can see a few of the initial

panels. they started on that design today. hub of be a very popular activity during the convention. there are interviews growing constantly, constantly. it's a good place to come by and see and be involved in. ♪ >> are we live? ♪

susan: and now joining us from the floor of the convention center here in cleveland, ohio, dave who writes for the washington post. thank you. you have been watching the last couple of days about the addition of governor pence to the ticket. can you tell our audience what he brings to this ticket and also what he is the tickets challenges are going forward?

governor pence grounds donald trump's ticket in the mainstream republican party. it will bring in the republicans that opposed him -- not all of them. the loudest ones you will hear tomorrow. list -- never the top of anyone's list as a governor -- and frankly your member during the primaries, marco rubio'sof idea of succeeding. get just enough people to get over the line. complaininght less from the average republican since that announcement was made, although you will hear a lot of complaining about how it was rolled out. susan: how was the rollout handled? what was the reaction among the republicans that you can tell so far as to mark >> this is one of

those topics were i cannot tell the media from the general public. stage process to rolling out a nominee. wasey and ryan's rollout mastery of form. they went to an aircraft fairer, announced it with fair -- there is a way you usually do this. this was another haphazard trump event, not even super well lit, a tense event on his own, which is not the norm. the p1 the press notice all that stuff. i'm not sure homage that penetrates. polling, some the of the good ones do not move the needle at all. governor palin's introduction in was not as good as we thought. her polls went out. she faded later.

he is a known quantity with republicans. a lot of them know him personally. a lot of conservatives and d.c. fm working with him for years. the only ones i'm waiting to hear from are the arch conservatives who are disappointed with the rest of the were broken party, people like -- and coulter and has registered disagreement. some people do not like him because of his immigration position. anger i'vethe most heard. susan: with the state of the now, howcongress right tight are his relationships with the caucus as it exists today and how do you see him helping the truck campaign with a group? >> pence only left congress at the end of 2012 when he was elected governor. up to that point, he was a leader, a candidate for leadership. always a conservative candidate. obviously successful before he

decided to move on. the of the people in republican conference worked with him at that level. help with he will those people. keep in mind there are people who reject trump and nothing will mollify them. people like senator jeff flake, senator mike leigh. continue saying that. for these meetings to happen on the hill to bring republicans on board, the events where they have had someone in the district -- they will not mind having pence there. ifs a pretty harmless pick not an exciting one. tell: dave, i'm going to my colleagues -- the band is playing -- i might waive the white flag and listen to them for a moment. it's very difficult for me to hear you and you to hear you and youtuber me. let's do that and come back. dave: all right.

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the skybox, the c-span skybox at quicken loans arena. dave talking to us. we got a preview of the music the campaign has selected at this convention. i want to talk a little bit about the senate race. you have written about the indiana senate race. state? happening in that and with the national ticket, how much will it affect that campaign? democrats were optimistic even when mike pence was running for governor. he was always going to be on the ticket indiana this year. they were not optimistic with the previous candidate, but evan by left politics -- evan bayh six with about $10 million in the bank and high approval ratings. to thinkthree days about that before mike pence was

the vice presidential nominee. i do not have much concern he will change the calculus. indiana is not a state they expect to win frilly clinton. who hassomeone consistently run ahead of the ticket. n by004, 1 by a land -- wo a landslide when kerry lost. main thing now is it's yet another race republicans might need to spend money on. washington from the post is with us. he has agreed to be with us until the top of the hour. we will be back in a few minutes. but first, steve scully. steve: we are joined by the national press ar secretary for the republican national committee. tell us what we have been hearing and seeing.

we have speakers coming into practice speeches, getting a lay of the land of what the arena looks like. steve: it is loud. hopefully it will be quiet for a little bit. give us a sense white new york, -- california is upfront, ohio off to the side. how did you decide where they would be located? >> florida has a prime spot as well. i'm a floridian, so i have to point that out there. a lot of factors go into it. we have been working on getting the seating arranged, getting state, andp for each now you can see they are all down here and everything is in announced. this was a weeks ago basketball court. >> it was. steve: this was a short time for you to get this ready. what were the biggest challenges? >> we had four weeks to do it

which is never been done in history. i walked in every morning and the amount of work that to waste and 24 hours was just incredible. a few days ago, this was a completely different space. it's amazing how quickly this came together. and a lot of it was logistical planning, thinking ahead, knowing we have a shorter time and making use of everything a lower. have you turn around and give us a sense of the podium. this is similar to what you had four years ago. why this motif? >> our executive producer had this great vision. these stage lights up and changes colors. there's 140,000 pounds of equipment above me. a lot of what the stage can do is change the look, the feel, the tell own and i think that will be special for our speakers and also for our entertainers. steve: they are here, ready to go --

>> a lot of it is logistics and planning and being extremely prepared, communicating, having the right elements. [indiscernible] steve: thank you for your time. some of theen to music. the band is back. roll time, baby help me ♪ susan: we will say goodbye to you from our hour of preview. let's listen to the music here.

movin' onon the light in nobody, baby ♪ >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, george washington law school -- we are back with the reporter and digital editor in cleveland. so, quicken loans arena right behind us. is cleveland ready for what is

about to happen here? about to happen here? guest: yes and maybe. i think the city has done as good a job to adjust as obviously national, international things have happened and as it has looked at each of the events and said what do we do? how do we adjust? but there are still some of the great unknowns. some are preparing for a huge crowd. for example, yesterday during a black lives matter event a thousand were expected maybe 200 , 300 show up. you overplan. host: what are the security preventions like given what happened recently with the threat of isis and other terrorism but also just what is happening in our country? guest: anybody who is used to strolling down east ninth street past the ballpark and going wherever you want to go is not going to happen this week. one of the most striking things were these metal barricades that have gone up all around the

venue. and it's a little intimidating. it's a little scary just a sight like that to think you have to do that but they did feel like they had to do this. the city is prepared with bicycle police u officers. they have outfitted the bicycles. that's not happy talk but also the bikes can be used for crowd control. extra horse patrols have come in. they've recruited as many as 2,000 police officers from other cities and have sworn them in. the city maintains control. but obviously they brought in a lot of people with a lot of specialties from other years. i was coming up 77 with a k-9 cruisers heading up here. >> how did they work out the relationship or what is the role of the city versus the secret service verse us federal agency that is are also in charge of security at a convention? >> the secret service role is very clearly defined.

it's called hard zone. it is basically the arena, convention center where reporters will be and the area around those. that is their area. they set the rules. nobody goes in or out without credentials and without pretty strict checks. the city set the event and set the zone as all of downtown cleveland. the american civil liberties union sued and the city came up with a slightly narrower parameter and also some accommodation force homeless people things like that. so the city has control there. and the secret service has controlled tighter in. and the f.b.i. has been around for quite a while stopping in on activist groups. some saw that as intimidating others saw that as comforting to feel out who is around what their plans are. host: jay johnson said he was concerned. he has concerns. and he was coming here on friday to check it out himself and then

head into philly as well. guest: honestly, i would be stunned if they weren't watching that given the tenor of what's happening not only nationally but worldwide. there is no higher profile event than these two conventions so you've got to do it right. host: we're about a mile away from where this is going to take place. what is happening to downtown cleevepbled? guest: lots of employees are staying home. the one extended government operation downtown is the courts. they have cleared out jail cells, set up extended hours for the courts again anticipating lots of arrests hoping not to have them. and so far cleveland history in several high profile events has been pretty good. but that part of it. private companies they're telling workers to work from home. this is always part of that equation on whether you want a convention or olympics or anything else like that. what do you lose as far as normal commerce goes when you

host an event like this? host: who gets to go inside the que and what do you need to get in? guest: lots of clearance from lots of people. reporters had to put in months ago for credentials and then they were issued and secret service background checks and homeland security background checks and all the rest. when you get your credentials you're allowed in. when you're a delegate you've gone through somewhat the same process. when you're a staffer you've gone through the same process. so the folks actually in there know they're in and nobody else is getting in. host: when you're inside, what's it like to be on the floor? are you able to move around freely when you get inside? guest: well it depends if you're a republican or a democrat. republicans sit more in their seats. they behave themselves better. democrats float around a lot more on the floor of the convention. but when reporters go in we kind of tag team with the credentials to actually get out on the floor. i've been to two republican

conventions and both of those will have a delegation so key because we're such a swing state. this year they're way off to the side host: we have a camera inside the que right now from our suite where ear going to be broadcast -- we're going to be broadcasting starting tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. but that's where the ohio delegation gets to sit. that's their view of the stage. is that a bad view? guest: that's a terrible view compared to what they're used to. it's very simple the reason. ohio this year went to a winner take all state. winner take all state, all of the delegates belong to the person who won the state overall who just happened to be governor john kasich. that was expected. as a result, none of the delegates on the first ballot unless john kasich releases them can vote for donald trump. so it won't be that moment in which ohio delivers the delegates that will put donald trump over the top officially. host: why hasn't john kasich

released the delegates? guest: john kasich has said he does not feel comfortable with donald trump as the representative of the republican party. he has not said absolutely he will never endorse but he has said i'm waiting a moment. he is waiting for donald trump to show a major conversion from the divisive candidate that john kasich has been. host: can that hurt the republican party and donald trump? ohio is a battleground. polls show them tied. guest: they are tied. you would think given the reservations of the republican party that hillary clinton would actually be doing better in ohio than she is doing. but if you want to know the story of the battleground of ohio basically travel the ohio river between ohio, west virginia, a pennsylvania. those are a lot of commurents for which the economy has never recovered especially down south get into coal country appalachia, some people who really feel very anxious about the future.

and so that's the area where the real battle will be. host: how has ohio broken in the past? would you call ohio blue red what is it? guest: we're called purple. though if you look at the map of our congressional delegations and you look at the whole statewide office slate it's all republican. some of that is how lines are drawn on the congressional map. some of that is that that's republicans have been much more active and much more organized in state politics. but barack obama wins. so you do have that purple swing state. republicans keep repeating the mantra that no republican has ever won the white house without winning ohio so you need ohio. some folks are saying this may be the time when ohio is by virtue of demographics whiter and orlando it may lose its swing status. host: and the role of governor kasich this week. guest: governor kasich was up to check out arrangements.

he was around to the perimeters of the convention. but he has no speaking engagement unlike four years ago when both he and rob portman had prime speaking spots. he does not plan to be a presence. host: rob portman? guest: rob portman will not be speaking. he said he is not avoiding the convention he just has lots of things to do. he is having a mock convention for his high school and college volunteers right next-door and he will be having speakers come over and talk with them. he is doing a habitat for humanity event. he is doing something with wounded warriors kye ackers. he is a by kayaker himself. he is finding ways to be in and around but not necessarily at the convention. host: why does he wanted to be present and known? guest: he has definitely endorsed donald trump but he's not gone much beyond that. he is running in a tough

reelection campaign against former governor ted strickland. the latest polls show him moving ahead pretty significantly. he needs that coal country i was talking about. he needs that swing area. but he also needs a lot of other people who have seen him as a more moderate republican to not be turned off. ost: let's get to calls. talking about ohio politics the convention. we'll go to naturally first in west virginia. -- gnat aly. caller: good morning. i just have a few things to say. it makes me beyond embarrassed for the first time in ni my life to be an american citizen so much my small children know not to say the t word in my home. i have watched both parties. trump in my opinion is a liar and a bully and it just shows

how money can get you where you want. you can lie cheat and twist words and the people applaud. the small minded people of america applaud. hillary has political experience however she's been shady as well. so how can we repair the country when we have two candidates that have no idea of how to fix it? why -- when they focus on what he said what she said. they need to focus on the real issues. host: what are some of those real issues? caller: real issues are i'm from southern west virginia and on the logan county line. i think so much of the people the coal miners out of work. and this isn't the first time. it's happened many times before when the logging industry came in. it's big businesses waves money in front of our face wipe us out and then leave. then we're stuck going what do we do again? there's got to be some kind of way to make this economy boom.

there's got to be some way to make other countries respect america again because they're laughing. host: what do you think about thearg that -- hearing that comment? our viewers talk about jobs, the economy. and a lot of times what they're saying doesn't match what we're hearing from the campaign from the candidates. guest: honestly i don't know how much we're not hearing it from the candidates or it's not the sexy stuff that we all cover, unfortunately. but what she's expressing are two points that i've heard repeatedly. one is i don't like either one of the candidates. there was a poll out last week in ohio that showed that 42% say they're less excited about this election than they were over past elections. the other thing when she talks about that coal country, i've made a couple trips down to harnse county, belmont county areas like that and hillary clinton made a huge mistake when

she said we're going to kill coal. that has become absolutely red meat for a lot of people down there for whom it's not just killing their future but it's disrespecting their past. this is an industry for which a lot of people literally died. and so to hear that it just needs to disappear is something that just hurts. host: next call donald, republican. good morning. aller: good morning. first i wanted to comment on, west virginia all voted for trump. he does have a plan and he is going to keep the coal industry alive. he's the only one talking about bringing jobs back to the country. he's the only candidate that is going to stop these bad trade agreements. that's the comment on --.

host: ok. let's talk about trade. how big an issue is that in ohio? guest: it's huge. there is just this absolute sense that since nafta and probably beyond no trade deal has served people well in ohio. now, you go out west and thing a interests would say it's served us very well but i'm talking about the area from which ronald is speaking. for them, jobs went elsewhere. d it's a hard issue to simplify but donald trump has simplified it. he said your jobs went to china and i will bring them back. what is interesting is the issue about coal that donald trump has said i'm going to bring back the coal industry and he has but he hasn't been real explicit how. part of it is to remove regulations which is seen to help kill the coal industry but what that would do is make coal

more plentyful which would bring the price down which is killing coal now because it has been brought down. so this idea if you get rid of the regulations coal comes back it's not that simple. host: yesterday when donald trump made his announcement we knew ahead of time that he was choosing indiana governor mike pence. he was critical of hillary clinton's support for nafta. however, his running mate mike pence has spoke about the benefits of nafta for his state of indiana. do you think that matters? guest: i don't think so. i think mike pence was more there to reassure ohio's social conservatives and the nation's social conservatives than anything else but you do raise an interesting issue that trade has been a republican idea, a republican strength. in fact, rob portman getting back to our senator changed his position on tpp. some would say as a result of

the election some would say reflecting the opinions of ohioans. trade is generally seen by republicans as a good thing. what you will hear both sides say over and over again including our other senator democrat shared brown is we are not opposed to trade. we are opposed to what we see as ub fair trade. free trade is as long as it's all done fairly and everybody's playing by the same rules we're good. host: you brought up social conservatives, unifying them bringing them into the fold. what was the response that you were hearing from ohio delegation about the choice of governor pence? guest: again, ohio's delegation all loyal to john kasich, many we're used d than to seeing. they're a more moderate group. but win a republican party and win a republican party that ohio has passed some of the strictest

anti-abortion legislation in the country. a lot of people don't realize that. a lot of our laws are very parallel to the texas law that just got overturned. so we do have within the republican party some strong social conservatives. and i think mike pence was a needed thing. but is it going to rouse the troops and get them out working hard for donald trump? i can't say that. host: as we're listening, you were looking at their seats. that's their viewpoint when the convention gets under way tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. tune in to c-span. get the radio app. and also go to c-span.org. that is where the ohio delegation will be seated looking at the stage and they usually get better seatic but because of their state being winner take all and all the delegates going for john kasich, he hasn't released them yet

that's where they ended up. new york, california, two blue states are up front for this convention. guest: though the california delegation is staying out in about an hour-1/2 away from here. but they get a great amusement park in their back yard. host: we'll go to barbara in cleveland. caller: good morning. host: what do you think about the convention in your town? quiveragetsdz it's not really in -- caller: it's not really in my town. it's downtown cleveland. my town you need to come up union avenue where they haven't cleaned up where they haven't built up and all the empty houses and all the poor people and all the homeless people. no, this is not cleveland. this is just a false resentation for cleveland.

guest: what she's saying again is absolutely true to a point. there are parts of cleveland that are hurting. terribly. and they've not been able to see the turnaround. violent crime, black on black crime especially this year over the past year has just been horrendous. another child was shot over the weekend. yes, we were struck hard by the foreclosures by what swept through the economy in 2008 and we've not recovered. what you do have going though is increasing activism within those neighborhoods to try to take control of these issues. i was over yesterday at a peace and justice convention over on the east side of cleveland and it was probably 200, 300 people saying we need to make a difference on social justice issues in our neighborhoods and beyond. host: let me add to what you were just saying median household income for cleveland, ohio, 26,000.

guest: yeah. we're a cheap place to live though too. you've got to remember that. yeah. household income has not kept up. and we kind of get back to some of the issues we were talking about contrasting with the appalachian ohio. it's just this feeling that not only am i not getting ahead any more but i'm not confident my kids are going to get ahead. so there's a lot of that from the urban areas to the very rural areas this sense of dis-ease. host: black african americans 37%, p about 53, whites hispanic about 10%. joe in river view florida. good morning. aller: good morning. i just wanted -- because i listen to you guys. why cleveland of all place force the republican party? law dependent and i'm in

enforcement and i see the things that like mike pence, i put kkk on his forehead. i think donald trump is on drugs. but i work with law enforcement, i see the hatred in the hearts and what they said and the way they treat men fellow black officers. but they're all republicans. we fight crime but we look at it different in the hood and we all kind of fear it but we know it's there. just a hatred of it. host: why cleveland? guest: cleveland made a lot of sense. it wanted to showcase itself in a big way. it has made a tremendous turnaround for all what you were just talking about and what is happening in some of the neighborhoods, the city core has really had a rebirth.

areas that were vacant even three, four years ago are filled and vibrant and it's gotten vibrant downtown. so cleveland wanted to say look at us. there also was thoughts about who would be running for president and that potentially john kasich would if not john kasich some other person that the republican party wanted to say hey ohio you matter. we're going to come there to help you swing our way. so it made sense from a republican calculation, it made sense from the city's calculation. what was not known at the time the city was putting in for this is what would happen with police relations and some of the high profigse issues especially the killing of a 12-year-old boy that mir rice. cleveland overtall has handled that situation very well. its police department is now toer a consent decree to try energize community policing and have it make a difference. but it was kind of coins dental

that this was happening on this track at the same time that they are going after the convention. host: next, in hollywood, florida. a democrat. caller: good morning. the age bracket that i'm in, we /-- ience the ibtgration integration/segregation era. therefore, we have more insight on predicting what this new republican party is all about. don't you know for one reason many of us knew that pence was going to be selected as vp because of social conservatism. what did reagan trickle down to the same social conservatives who basically are middle class and they jump on any band wagen? so their children who go off to college basically understand the concept of what tradition is in

this country. so you do not have the rockefeller republicans that vote with you. you do not have most of the independents that do not vote with you. so your strong points are white males mostly southerners and social conservatives. now, many of us tried to make the two parties work and found out that many in the republican party were very very negative towards receiving blacks to become members of the republican party. some of them would more or less die and go to hell before they uld invite or embrace this sinking of -- thinking of bringing everybody to the table. their children basically understand what's going on that the ones in the 70s, 80s -year-old old are basically

carrying on the traditions of their great grandparents who were those who worked for the plantation owners and they were sold by the plantation owners of -- a bill of goods that didn't work. host: i need to jump in because we're running short on time. i think we've got the gist. what were you thinking listening to him about how that plays out? guest: well, we do have a lot of what are called reagan democrats in ohio. i wish i could attribute this but i can't remember who sead it but somebody said especially in eastern ohio they have a history who ting for politicians have flamboyant things and have bad hair. they were referring to jim traffic nt. if you look at his positions they are aligned with republicans with pop list kind of rhetoric. there is a generational divide

that is playing out. i have run into far more young people than old people who are -- it's not going for hillary at least are terrified of trump. but it's, as with anything that is human it is more complex than saying it's a bunch of racist whose are going to vote for trump and it's a bunch of due process who are going to vote for hillary. which is how each side presents the other. there's a lot of individual's hopes and fears that are playing into the whole thing. host: your jim trasketnt joke goes over well with the c-span audience because they remember. what will happen tomorrow when the convection kicks off at 1:00? what will be happening on the floor? guest: basically all the adoption of the reports that were gone through last week. a lot of the drama we were last looking for is not going to be there. there was a move by two different groups to get the 28

votes they needed to have minority reports which would have forced among other things unbinding the delegates committed to trump. so it becomes more everything is officially under way. we are ready to start welcoming the nominee. we are going to hear the first of the speakers. we're going to set the tone for the rest of the week. host: there is some following the delegates on line that some that want this unbound -- to unbind themselves and vote their conscience. some are saying it's not over yet. that there's an opportunity to embarrass the party, to embarrass donald trump possibly with a roll call vote forcing some sort of vote on the floor that would take hours that could play out. what are you hearing? guest: one move would be to abstain. and you're not voting for anyone else so you're abiding by your commitment but they will still

abstain therefore it would be embarrassing. i may have to call you tomorrow night and say messed that up. but i don't see it happening. people who attend these conventions are party loyalists. and even those not fond of donald trump saying this my party. they're not likely to be the kind of rebels to embarrass their party. host: we will have to be tuning in and watchings. thank you very much. journal" is in cleveland for the republican national convention. -- followed by the rnc rules

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