national committee. at 10:00 a.m., the dayton daily news reviews day three of the rnc and previews the speech by donald trump. >> and speak and vote your conscience and vote up and down the ticket for who you trust and to be faithful to the constitution. host: good morning, everyone. the last day of the g.o.p. convention, and donald trump will take the stage tonight ne day after giving his former rival ted cruz the spotlight -- e he did not endorse the donald trump.

if you're supporting donald you , (202) 748-8000, if oppose the billionaire, (202) 48-8001. we'll get to republicans in a moment. what's your reaction to senator cruz's speech last night not endorsing donald trump. but first to peter. >> accepting the vice presidential nomination, this is how it's played this morning in the papers. this is "the chicago tribune." and the columbus dispatch out of ohio says cruz and boos. that's their big headline. here's the "daily news" out of new york. civil war is what they are saying. and we want to show you this one as well. this is the indianapolis star

and it's pence energizes republicans. with regard to the ted cruz speech, here's a little different take by the "dallas morning news." angry texans storm out after trump interrupts cruz convention speech. hundreds of angry texans storm out after he interrupted cruz's speech while many more booed cruz for not endorsing trump. quote i'm done, i'm done as jeremiah stormed out. my guy's spoken. hundreds of other cruz supporters were upset trump entered the arena stealing much of the attention from the texas senator in his final moments addressing the crowd. there's a couple of pieces of video we also wanted to show you.

this is a piece of video we found on rare u.s. after her husband got booed for not endorsing trump heidi cruz felt wrath of the crowd. she was escorted off the floor by ken cuccinelli who was the focus of a lot of the attention on monday night. attorney virginia general, heidi cruz being escorted off the floor for safety reasons and jeremy diamond of cnn was with the utah delegation on the floor and here's senator mike lee's and the utah reaction to ted cruz. [applause] host: and peter,

behind-the-scenes according to cnn's dana bash that people called senator ted cruz a disgrace to his face and one state chairman apparently had to be held back. republicans callers only this morning. we have divided the lines by supporting donald trump and opposing donald trump. mike in new york, good morning to you. you support donald trump. what did you think about last night's g.o.p. convention? caller: well, first of all, i think -- i take pride in thanking the good lord for to die for us to give us prepared necessary to deal with this day and times. i'm not a prejudice person. this is a back and white country, you understand? and i appreciate trump making a point about where he was born. i appreciated that. where was you born? your birth certificate doesn't

indicate you were born over here, so you understand when you come to america, you got to read the fine print. you don't come here ignoring the fine print now you when the fine sprint magnified and you are all into, oh, i don't know but i thank trump for bringing up that point but as far as i'm 100% going for trump 100% trump. now -- host: all right, raleigh. wendy in new jersey. you are also supporting mr. trump. good morning. what's your reaction to what you saw last night? caller: good morning. i was a on experience democrat until this year vote for switched to for uz but i am voting

donald trump because hillary should never, ever be in there but i think trump would lose a lot of respect. it was a very nasty primary. i have yet to see a public apology but i am still in support of donal trump. i like what i have seen recently and i hope he keeps one cooling it down and putting his family out there. host: do you think senator's decision not to endorse trump will hurt the republicans in the end? caller: no. because he showed up. he did a great speech. and i don't think he has to endorse. i think that he did a great job. host: all right. tom in raleigh, north carolina, you, too, are supporting mr. trump. good morning to you. caller: yes.

good morning. i believe also that cruz did a great job last night. and i believe that it doesn't matter in terms of how the identical came. did a elieve that he good job, and it doesn't matter that he didn't endorse trump at the end. he endorsed the republican and conservative party, and that's all that really matters at the end. host: ok. well following the speech newt gingrich had to follow that up and newt gingrich tells poohing crowd they misunderstood cruz and in an article this morning in the washington times they said that mr. gingrich said playing damage control for mr. cruz in this election there's

only one candidate who will support the constitution. that's what mr. gingrich said in his speech. randy in ohio, you are opposing donald trump. did you support ted cruz in this primary? caller: absolutely. ted cruz was my number one pick from the beginning and the reason i didn't like donald strump because he did everything to snument and be nasty to everybody in the election. some of his associates were talking about cruz's father having something to do with the kennedy assassination at one time and trump drove a wedge between the conservatives and his race and now he is going after bernie sanders voters. host: do you think that this hurts the republican party in november that senator ted cruz

doesn't seem to be getting behind the republican party in donald trump? caller: well, i think if donald trump would come out and publicly apologize to ted cruz for some of the things he said, i think he would get more support but if anybody listened a show last night regan never endorsed ford in 1976 because of the bitterness of the contest. host: ok. randy, were you watching when in new york ahead of the start of the republican convention donald trump spruced mike pence as his vice president running mate, were you watching then? ok. we lost him. but reminder for all our viewers. that the point ahead of his introducing microphones come on to the stage donald trump did

reference senator ted cruz and said a great guy. a great guy. so for all of you throwing it out there with your comments and thoughts on last night's republican convention, senator ted cruz choosing not to endorse saying republicans should vote their conscience up and down ticket. let's hear from pat in sioux falls, south dakota. you are supporting donald trump. caller: hi. yes. i still support donald trump. ted cruz might as well write off the 2020 election, because he is not going to get voted in either then. host: why do you say that, pat? caller: well, he wants to be main stream politician. i am one of those people in the midwest that are sick and tired f politicians promising us

this and that and the other thing and nothing happens. host: ok. pat, how is ted cruz's chances hurt in 2020 i what he did last night? caller: he didn't go along with he signed that they were having questions with donald trump on signing and yet he didn't bother going along with that, and he is trying to sabotage the people's choice. host: ok. all right. pat, peter in washington, what do you have? peter: well, donald trump sthetcht tweet out last night at 8:45 p.m. and it's been retweeted,000s of times and wow, ted cruz got booed off the stage and didn't honor his pledge.

i saw his speech two hours fore -- early but i let him speak anyway. no big deal. and this large picture here, this is ted cruz walking off the stage down and here is a little picture of mike pence who accepted the vice presidential nomination last night. and the headline, cruz stirs convention fury in pointed snub of trump. and here is the "wall street journal." g.o.p. split as cruz snubs trump. that's their lead and "washington post," attempt at unity falls short. well, last night, greta, you asked pat in sioux falls about whether or not this hurts ted ruz's chances in 2020. c-span's fred scully was on the floor of the quicken loans talking with texas delegates and specifically about the ted

cruz issue. >> this is kinl jessup from long view texas and this is where the story is tonight. so let me get your reaction to what ted cruz did and did not do this evening. >> ted is a brilliant man but what he did not do tigers he was not a team player. he lost. i was here for the first presidential debate and donald trump, i voted for marco rubio. but i got over it after one day. donald trump defeated 16 senators and governors. now, my mother was a maid with a third grade education. my grandmother from mexico had no education but i learned to think from her. when you win, you win with humility. when you lose, you must lose gracefully, and with all due respect to senator ted cruz who i know is a brilliant scholar,

he must still learn the art of gracefulness under deal. >> your reaction? >> i love ted cruz. i think he is an honorible man but i'm so disappointed he didn't put his support behind donald trump tonight. i have loved him from the beginning and i was really hoping he would come together from the other candidates that were in the primary like he did and endorse him. >> and do you think ted cruz has a political future in texas and nationally? >> for me in texas? no. for some people who have very large bank accounts, they are extremely angry. i went to the ladies room and the women there were furious. he is going to run again two years. two years is a very long time. we texans, you know the old saying. don't mess with texas. host: that was the reaction from a couple of the ladies in

the texas delegation last night after hearing from their senator. and him not endorsing the republican nominee. going to show you some of that peech. ted: we must make the most of our moments to, fight for our freedom and protect our god-given right. even with those with whom we don't agree, so that when we are old and gray, and when our work is done, and we give those we love one final kiss goodbye, we will be able to say freedom matters and i was part of something beautiful.

make. e we have to each person in this room has to commit to each of them that we will defend freedom and be faithful to the onstitution. we will dwrite party. we will unite the country by standing together married? values and standing for liberty. god bless each and every one of you, and god bless the united states of america.

host: there it was, the end of senator cruz's speech last night. boos was the reaction from those delegates in the crowd, some of them who were disappointed that the texas senator did not endorse donald trump instead saying republicans should vote their conscience up down and ticket. here for this morning of the washington journal as we continue live here from cleveland at the sky light financial group about a mile away from the quicken loans wreen the delegates have gathered last night and they will do so again tonight to hear from their nominee donald trump. also evonka trump will be speaking. the first hour of the "washington journal" we will be

reacting to last night's republican national convention. caller: when i saw him on stage last night, and he only represented himself. he didn't listen to any of the thousands and thousands of voices that were there to unite the party and the principles of the party. he only represented his little voice in his little head. it was such a disappointment. i don't think it was hateful. the crowd wasn't hateful. the crowd was so happy. it was such a great convention. everybody was together loving trump and the family, but when he got up there and represented only himself, he was like a petulant child. the other thing i wanted to say was that i was very disappointed in the last few days way c-span had covered this convention. i always put c-span on because

there is no opinion and there is just straight reporting. but i felt you only interviewed "the washington post," the "new york times" and all the people that are hateful towards trump, so i found that very disappointing. is there any other place where we can go where we can just they're news? everything is getting tarnished. that's all i have to say. host: have you been watching the "washington journal" not morning or have you been watching it at night? caller: i watch c-span all the time because i don't want to hear all these paid operatives who pretend that they are journalists. i allow c-span but i'm getting a little sad about even the changes at c-span. i mean, when are we just going to hear the straight news? at any rate, it was a beautiful convention despite all the stories that are coming out of the "washington post" and the

"new york times" and all the money that's being thrown out by the clinton operatives. host: ok. all right. let's hear from johnny in panama city, florida. and who is opposing donald trump, and i just want to tell our last viewer that yesterday we talked to a variety of reporters including bloomberg and others here during our coverage this whole week. take a look back if you would like. go to c-span.org. that's where you can find all the speeches throughout the week and watch them in their entirety and decide what you think about how this convention has unfolded here. johnny in florida, go ahead. thanks for waiting. caller: yes, ma'am. thanks for having me. i know what you were trying to say but then if you had carried everything pro trump and not even listened to cruz and

turned down the boos, then you would have had the other side yelling at you. so really we need to come together as a party. and don't pay attention to the media. i mean, you know, this is not a dig on y'all. it's just that we need to come together as a party and vote as a party and not worry about the trouble between two, trump and cruz. i think cruz would be a great supreme court justice. and you know, they shouldn't get mad at each other, because i think that would be a great place for him. he is such a constitutionalist, and he would give some balance to the court. host: hey johnny, do you think they can come together before november? and do you think they need to in order to win against hillary clinton and the democrats? caller: they have to. and the more the press dwells on, this and i know y'all have to because it's the biggest

story out there but we really just need to put all this behind us and all the bheem say i am not going to vote for trump, who are you going to vote for? glen beck gets on tv all the time and on the radio and says i'm not going to vote for trump. i'm just not going to vote for him. by a conservative not voting for trump is voting for hillary whether you pull a switch or not. host: all right, johnny, what we are trying to do here at "washington journal" and throughout our coverage is not have people tell you what to think about what happened on the convention floor but rather give you a chance to call in and give your opinion. your commentary, your thoughts about what you're seeing. that is the whole point. and we will continue to do in a on day four of the republican national convention and then go next week to philly.

first, let's go to washington and peter. peter: politico this morning. he has five take aways. he leeds with ted cruz just outtrumped trump. turns out when you bully a guy for months and suggest his wife is unattractive and insinuate his dad participated in the kennedy assassination then give him a primetime speaking spot on the third night of your nominating convention, well, you get the picture, glen thrush writes. audacity is supposed to be donald trump's most valuable attributes but it was cruz that delivered one of the most audacious blows of the 2016 campaigns pointedly refusing to endorse hiss party's nominee and according to glen thrush of politico. frankly donald, ted didn't give a dam. ted who was backed to be the

unlikely standard barrier taught trump something party leaders on capitol hill have known since the texas senator took office in 2013, he's got a deep anti-authoritarian streak and has will take the opportunity to sledgehammer the best laid plans of anyone who tells him with a to do and cruz gives hillary a slogan. cruise beard to those running, please don't stay home in november. if you love our country and love our children as much as i know you do, stand up and speak your conscience for hillary clinton a party that's struggled it instantly opened and rained bumper stickers. eff that's from glen this morning at politico. host: glen, you are supporting

donald trump. what do you think happened last night? caller: well, i think cruz is toast from this point on. it just those that trump was good judge of character by calling him lying ted. cruz has become part of the washington establishment and that's who strump running against, people like "the washington post" and politico and even some of the attitude amongst some of the c-span hosts fear donald trump, because he is going to come into washington as the great slayer, and cruz acted like the person who is not the enemy at the gate but the traitor from within. even ronald regan was magnanimous even though one of recalled that.

i originally was for pence, and i've been for trump ever since pence dropped out of the race, so i feel like a king maker but cruz should just get with the program and the alternative is hillary appointing supreme court justices and bankrupting the country and laying down and if you vote for hillary, your conscience should torture you the rest of your life. host: jim, respond to a caller earlier who said maybe donald trump should apologize senator ted cruz for the comments he made about his wife and his father, etc. and that then maybe senator ted cruz will come out and endorse him and get behind him. what do you think?

caller: well, you can tons comments of -- well, you can understand the comments about ted cruz's wife, because he gets to wake up next to milanya every morning so we men can understand that. and i'm sure ted cruz's father is a great american patriot but -- but icans did not do this is the real war now. ruz has to put aside his petty hurt feelings and get with the program. because hillary is going to be an absolute disaster if she is able to walk into the white house and continue to horrible programs and horrible positioning that the obama administration has created.

they are both of the same silk. there's no difference out of horrible s that are people and are bad for the american people and if you have a conscience you have to vote for trump. host: all right. jim. heard your point. want to share with you cnn's reporting, the teams are at war over whether the republican presidential nominee ever seriously wanted the ohio governor to join the ticket. governor john kasich has not been at the convention and will not speak. multiple sources close to the case says donald trump's son tried entice him with the position as the most powerful vice president in history and he turned it down. he would have been in charge but trump's communication advisor insisted while a call

occurred between a trump observer a vice presidential offer was never on the table and never an offer made. it's completely made up. donald trump did give most of his rivals a chance to speak at the convention. scott walker spoke and senator marco rubio who is not here in cleveland but talked to convention goers via video. here's what he had to say. >> from inside of a rigged political system that puts special interests ahead of the american people. she planted the seed for what we now know is obama care. she was a croney for middle class tax hikes and how the control government spending. she was a key figure in implementing barack obama's foreign policy and diminishing

our role in the world and she turned her back on the fallen heroes in benghazi and carelessly -- hillary clinton does not have the honesty or courage to be the president we need for the next four years after the president we've had for the past eight, but unlike hillary clinton, donald strump committed to curb spending and unlike barack obama and hillary clinton, donald trump takes seriously the threats by our enemies and unlike barack obama and hillary clinton he apoints judges who will transport proper role of the judiciary. after a long and spirited primary, the time for fighting each other is over. it's time to come together and fight for a new direction for america. t's time to win in november. host: senator marco rubio.

after he addressed the nvention, they were -- after cruz asked home the vote their conscience, trump supporters disappointed and booed him for not officially endorsing. george in poughkeepsie new york. ou're opposing donald trump. caller: yes. i used to vehemently vote for colin powell and george bush's father. this party now is a party short of cross burning. that's what this party is. it's not inclusive. it's bashing all he does is bash this country because he can't get his way. donald trump is eventually going to lose, and if he does become president and trashes this country, what would these supposed staunch republicans do

if donald trump crashes this country and into 2008 like republicans did the last time they wasn't listening? that's all i like to say, thank you. host: ok. volanda in mansfield, ohio, you are opposing the republican nominee. good morning. caller: good morning. yes, i'm opposing. i am opposing donald trump. i could never vote for him. i strongly applaud ted cruz and his how a man who stands by his principles. it's so refreshing. i've been so, so disyou are the ed by the way our republican party, what it has become. i've been a lifetime republican, and i am no more. and i will vote my conscience.

i will be writing in ted cruz's name. that's the only thing i can do. i cannot stand for the things that trump stands for. and i also know a quote he said in the past which was if i ever run r office i would republican because they are so stupid, they'll vote for anyone. he just reminds me of a name-calling stupid brat. host: ok demirk leesburg, florida. good morning to you. caller: good morning. how are you? host: good. so you are -- you know, you're voting for donald trump. you called in on that line this morning. what do you think about senator ted cruz's decision? caller: well, i think senator ted cruz should have at least sent some kind of pleasant tris thanking donald trump for letting him speak even though

they were going at each other's throat during the election. but the deal is that you need to come together with your party no matter how you felt about what somebody said. put that stuff behind you. we are talking grown men here, and move on for the betterment the united states and not some ongoing, bickering, rivalry thing. things to give people time and noun save and the elderly, the money they want to cut social security. they need to take some people this type of system that constantly feeds people that

so of working and give that money to retirees to they don't have to go to another country and learn another language just to survive when they have been putting money in the pot of america for so long so there are a lot of things that need to happen. this wall donald trump talks about building, i'm for that but he also needs to know the true drug dealers are digging tunnels underground not over walls. host: dirk, let me jump in. i hear your point. let me get your reaction on an opinion piece in "the new york times" where they stay ted cruz's 2020 campaign began last night here in cleveland and wrote his candidacy has already begun and he might run even if

trump wins this year. what's your reaction? caller: well, i'm they you know what? if you don't say some pleasant tris to a person and n their party, people are going to remember that when it's time for you to start to run and you really don't want to create any enemies in your own party if you're going to be running in a few years, so i'm thinking that wasn't a smart thing to do in my estimation. you guys have a problem. you work that out behind closed doors. when you get in the open forum, you say some pleasant tris whether you like them or not. host: i understand michael in alabama, you are opposing donald trump. what did you make of last night? caller: i mean, i just think the whole deal as i watched all the networks, i really just think trump set him up for

that, you know? saying he read the speech, and i think he did it to for cruz to go out there and make a fool of himself and turn his delegates against him, but i don't blame cruz. he stood up. and i don't blame none of the candidates because people like rush limbaugh on fox news and shawn hannity have pulled so far to the right. and it's an all-white party. like john kasich, marco rubio. i was pulling for him. ne of them really is wanting to vote trump but today want to stick i their pledge, and i just think it's unimportant to what talk show around radio ows on the far, far right is just, it got absurd. host: ok. those are michael's thoughts in

alabama opposing donald trump. more of your thoughts from the republican national convention here in cleveland. let's go back to washington and peter. peter: greta, another from the new hampshire union leader website. to his column "clinton shot for balanced omment earns sorrow rebuke. saying that hillary clinton should be put on the firing line and shot for treason, one of donald trump's new hampshire drew outrage from all parties and the marine corps vet an and he was standing by his comment in the immediate aftermath of the controversy. meanwhile, the secret service confirmed it is investigating

balanced sorrow's comments even as a trump campaign spokesman said the nominee "does not agree" with the sentiment. and the u.s. secret service is aware of this matter land conduct appropriate investigations and the trump campaign said it in no way approved of the balanced air is o's comments and a quick rebuke, balanced sorrow's comments are appalling and have no place in public discourse. now at 1:45 a.m. balanced sorrow sent out this tweet. all the liberals who are attacking me have no clue on what was said you just believe the liberal media. rust but verify. host: katherine in delaware.

you are supporting donald trump good morning. what do you think about what happened last night? caller: good morning. actually, you know, i was down hearted after listening to it lan last night. expected our republicans candidates running for president to be united. i saw them stand on the stage and raise their and that they were going to support whoever the nominee was. and you're getting an early view of which of the candidates would not have kept their word meaning ted cruz and kasich. we have already stheern not going to be men of honor. they cared more about how they looked and egos than worrying about iciss coming here to our country and hurting us and our children and our families. i'm so disappointed in them. i really expected them to get together and do what they needed to do. these are grown men. this is a hard world out there.

get over it. they all insult each other when it comes to campaigning. this is not new. and i'm sick of this. i want them to get together. i would have voted for any person than to stage but i can't in good conscience vote for ted cruz now or kasich, because they are not keeping their word already. this is just a little part of keeping their word. they are the establishment of washington that we are complaining about. thank you. host: katherine, do you think you will still feel that way in 2020 if senator ted cruz and ohio governor john kasich run? do you think you will still feel this way four years from now caller: lit depend on who they are running against. host: so if one of them became a nominee you would be a loyal rep tchan comes first to you,

party over the person? caller: no. i have voted democrat when it comes to the presidential race but i am a republican but i use my common sense. and if i have a man not saying the things to protect our country, my brother died because of vietnam and wounded and sprayed with agent orange and when he came back to the country he was told by our country if you can crawl, you can get a job. that's when he was almost passing out from the agent orange. and i believe the grassroots cares about our american people and soldiers and 911 blue. i will vote for whoever is running for president who is the very best man. i am not one of those people for party.ing just

donald trump is a strongman and if we are going to get out of the hole we have put ousts in, only donald trump is going to do it. host: now natalie opposing donald trump. caller: yes. about last night's speech with ted cruz. it doesn't make me hate ted cruz. it actually makes me respect him. i know that he made a promise and people are focusing on that but i'm the kind of person that if i strongly believe that the person was running for my party is not going to be a good fit, then they wouldn't get my support. and all these trump supporters and all these speakers that it says rump, to me, not just ing to stand

toing the company line but he really wants what's best. i don't think that it's a personal ego trip. and when it comes down breaking promises like last caller said he broke a promise i feel i cannot trust him. donald trump cheated on his first wife. he has broken promises. with ted cruz i feel like it's coming from more of a place where he cares about our country. and people keep on calling in saying that the republican party needs to unite. yes. we need to unite, but you should have thought of that before donald trump became the republican party fronter. host: natalie, some republicans who are supporting donald trump might say to you if senator eted cruz really cares about the country then he would get

a nd his party so that democrat doesn't get the white house in november. how do you respond to that? caller: i know hillary clinton is scary, too, but she is the least of my concerns. i want someone in the office that i have complete nate that self-going to protect our country from future ray tax and do what's best for our country and right now i feel like neither of them are going to do that. host: as you know indiana governor mike pence also spoke addressing his supporters and donald trump supporters at the convention last night on the third night. the "washington post" headline on his speech attempt for unity falls short as cruz upstages pence. here's a little bit of the indiana governor's speech. >> you know, donald trump gets it.

he is the genuine article. he is the doo doer in a game usually reserved for talkers. and when donald trump talks he doesn't tiptoe around the thousand new rules of political correctness. he is his own man. distinctly american. and where else would an independent spirit like his find a following than in the land of the free and the home of the brave? [applause] he funny thing is. crowd: ssa! ssa! u.s.a.! .s.a.!

>> you know the funny thing is the party in power seems helpless to figure out our nominee. the media has the same problem. they all keep telling each other that the usual methods they keep thinking they have done him in only to wake up the next morning to find out donal strump still running stronger than ever before. the man just doesn't quit. he is tough. he perseveres. he has gone about as far as you can go in business, but he has never turned his back on the working men and women that make this country grow. and donald trump will never turn his back on those who serve and protect us at home and abroad. host: if you want to watch the

entire speech by governor mike pence you can go to espn.org and we will continue with c-span's coverage near cleveland, day four, the last day of the republican convention. donald trump will take the stage tonight. our coverage getting under way about 6:00 p.m. eastern time. we will continue with more of your phone calls and tweets getting your reaction to last night and today and as well as after donald trump makes his speech, we will take your calls again, and you get a chance to let washington and those in cleveland know what you think. we continue to do that here on the "washington journal" this morning. more calls coming up but peter in washington, what do you have? peter: here's delegate reaction to night three of the republican convention. this is state senator patrick callback from michigan, and he posted this on twitter to all those critical of not saying the endorsement word and then

he links to his facebook page. here's what he had to say. to all those critical of ted not saying the "e" word last night. disagree with anything he did say? bryan wall sh from illinois had this posted on twitter. at 4:25 a.m. this morning. differences with trump aside, cleveland has been a fantastic host city for the con streaningsd team at the rnc has done a great job and i

apologize brian is from washington, d.c., and mark is from -- mark from tella is from illinois and he is a delegate and he wrote -- i can assure you the booing was not whipped. that was all from the heart. a few delegates' reactions. host: 4:25 a.m. there is a lot of partying happening. here at the conventions that's typically what happens. people are out late enjoying their time and that will probably happen tonight after donald trump finally gets to address his supporters in the q with his speech. we will be here back in washington for that to get your eaction to what you heard. his decision to not say as one

delegate said, the e world. oscar in california, you're new trafment what do you mean by that, oscar? caller: i grew up as the son of an aerospace dad who was republican of course. g-time, sat lightses and converted to democrat when bush pushed us into that ridiculous war with saddam hussein. and now i'm independent. what i'd like say is if cruz and trump and clinton. we have people are -- to respect them but we have to ask ourselves. who would you mire if you were a boss and looking at their resume? we have to let the gray matter between our ears make our decisions. not our emotions and by the way, thank you for your fantastic service to c-span.

you are a great hostess. host: thank you. bruce in washington. you are supporting donald trump, and you are on the air? caller: good morning. yes, i am indeed supporting donald trump. host: so what do you think esenator ted cruz did last night? caller: i am really disappointing. i think when a man gives his word, he should keep it. so because of the i would never be able to vote for cruz or kasich. host: so you will remember this in four years if the two of them edecide run again? caller: yes. i think donald trump's speech on both sides of the aisle appeals which is why he will win and i think trump will carry a higher black vote than any republican president since eisenhower. o i think that the media plays games with polls and plays

games with sound bites, and i think in the end the american people will decide, because they think donald trump speaks to the basic core values that america is great and that the people in america are great. host: ok. you might be interested in this. robert, -- robert costa who reports for "the washington post" was on the floor of the q after senator ted cruz's speech and his headline is trump campaign chairman disappointed with cruz referring to paul man aforand coyly denied encouraging boose, robert costa has a transcript of his quick interview with paul man aforon the floor and he says that paul, could you offer some clarity on carouse and the timeline of his speech and the manager says we got it about 6:30 p.m. and he says were you unhappy with it?

and man afort responds it is what it is and trump was saying on the record he was disappointed with the senator but we were disappointed he didn't say something more positive but donald trump felt all the candidates who ran for president should have the opportunity to speak. we gave all of them but we till said send a video and robert costa says cruz made the dual trump two days ago about not endorsing and is that accurate? and paul man afort says, it is not. then robert costa says why did trump come into the box during speech? and the campaign manager says we had to move him there in time for eric and eric was the next speaker so the logistics would be hard to do and he then

asks him about the booing on the floor, did you all do anything to foster that asks the reporter or was that organic? and man afort says it must have been organic and grins. >> you didn't have people on the floor leading that? man afort says well that's not the person i know and robert costa says to him that's a pretty big smile, sir. and man afort responds look, i think the delegates were very disappointed. what do all of you think? republicans? only linda in ohio, you're supporting donald trump, were you disappointed? caller: i was disappointed in ted cruz. all the other nominees signed a pledge. i was brought up the only thing you have in life is your word. and if your word is not worth anything, you're not worth anything. and the boos, instead of

listening to newspapers and commentaries, if you would tornado watch eventual, theboose came from the delegates. i'm surprised they didn't run him that you have stage on a rail. host: ok. linda. john in new mexico, you're supporting donald trump. good morning to you. caller: yes. good morning. i am supporting donald trump, and it's amazing to me the people that still live in some fantasy world like ted cruz, you know, we are having a hard time getting people like the radio talk show hosts and stuff. there's different people that are still living in a fantasy world. that their guy is going to somehow win the white house. but if we don't support trump it's the same as supporting hillary clinton. i don't want to go into the

human nature of those who have lost, and they are sore losers. to put it quite simply it's like a little kid's baseball team when one kid loses they cry and you have to take them for ice cream and let them know they will have another chance. there's no ice cream coming for these people. they are just going to have to get over it. they are either going to have to support donald trump who a lot of us find acceptable as president, or they are going to be supporting hillary clinton, and that's all there is to it. thank you for the time. host: in maryland, supporting donald trump. your turn. caller: yes, ma'am. i was a democrat for the past 40 years. i voted for democrats because maryland is a democratic state. but i'm disappointed in cruz of what he said, and worst of all when he was about to step

stage, he used a phrase there that he would kiss trump, that was very bad. over e the crisis given to the roamens he kissed him handed him over to the people to kill him so why would cruz stand up and say such a thing and he wants to run for president in the next four years. it's not right. the democratic party want to be the only party in america. i have voted for them for all my years. right now -- host: ok. anna, i want to share with you and others this national review online story about an interview that they had about senator ted cruz's thinking perhaps behind the speech. it says that multiple sources close to the senator describe senator in which he attributes his loss to an exalternatively

factors, the number of debates and other candidates staying in the race too long while stubbornly refusing to recognize any fundamental weaknesses in his candidacy. cruz believes his campaign was nearly flawless and if not for trump's meteoric rise he would be accepting the nomination and because of the senator cruz sees no need for course correction. in an interview with a national review online in teepings his speech the republican runner-up reflected at length of the 2016 campaign. he did not however offer any critical analysis of his own annual sifments after three times failing to review anything failure he pointed instead to outside elements that he claimed were beyond his control. tim, in ohio you are supporting

mr. trump? good morning to you. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. originally i didn't really personally like trump. but after but after watching what has gone on at the convention, his family stepping up for him the way they have -- if my family stepped up for me that way, i would have to have something good about me, and i see what his family is doing. i think it is amazing that they are stepping up as good as they are. host: what family? daughters, sons, yeah, they were fortunate at the place they have in life, but they are stepping up pretty good. as far as the commitment -- as far as people saying will you ,upport the candidate that wins

that was forced on donald trump at the first debate. he didn't come up with that idea. they did. why did they do it -- they wanted his money supporting the candidate. now he is the candidate. hear your point about all the candidates having too signed that pledge, and that is something donald trump did, having a news conference, showing his signature after. we're getting your thoughts on it this morning, what you heard last night from the former republican candidate and what he had to say. kevin in marshall, texas, you oppose mr. trump. what did you think of senator ted cruz's speech last night? caller: well, i think it is a lot of something about nothing, really.

even the question -- do you support or do you oppose -- i think it is purposely divisive. i like ted cruz. i did not support him originally. i certainly did not support trump. ted cruz promised to support the winner. i think that is a little different than endorsing somebody. to endorse somebody, you are onting your own reputation the line saying if you think this way about me, you will think this way about him, and i don't think trump had enough to followuz that he would the constitution, and the biggest problem ted cruz has is to support the constitution. i think that trumps everything, even trump. i think it is purposely divisive to try to divide the republican party. future, ited's

respect ted cruz. i really do. i would vote for him again as a senator. host: kevin, let me jump in. you said the purpose is intentional to divide the republican party -- where is that coming from -- this intentional -- caller: the media --if you listen to ted cruz's speech, ?here did he bash trump he didn't. he said he wants the people to support the people that supports the constitution, and if you feel that trump supports the constitution more than hillary, which i think he does, then you would vote for trump. his vote has always been on the constitution. us in texas, we are ideologues. we have an idea of what the constitution says, and whether you like it or not, you support it. you know, it doesn't always go

your way, but you cherished that document. you follow the values of it. host: i understand, kevin, what you are saying. what about the boos in the arena? those were not the media boing. that was the delegates. they were disappointed that he didn't say donald trump, let's get behind him. caller: i understand that. within the party there are ideologues and then there are party people. the party people are the ones that go to the convention -- the majority of them. they support the rnc. is our guy,ays this everybody is supposed to run around cheering for that person. within the republican party are ideologues such as myself, ted the, and rand paul, and people that believe in something other than the party itself. i think the boos came from the

people that wanted the party to the cheers are coming from the people that say there is a reason we have the party -- the party is to support our constitution. host: ok, kevin. do you think senator ted cruz needs to be standing on a stage at some point with donald trump throwing his support behind him? we lost him. we won't find out. we will talk to suzanne who is in naples, florida. suzanne, you are supporting mr. trump. well, if i wasn't before, i sure am now. i didn't understand that hypocritical speech from senator cruz. he even gave examples of people that lost family members and how they forgave. you know, the nominating process is over.

these candidates have got to give it up. bush,so much respect for kasich, and cruz, and i have lost respect for them. they are holding trump responsible for the american people voting?this is wrong. if they are going to run on the republican ticket, they should support the nominee. that is my opinion. i think cruz -- host: all right, suzanne. thank you for your comments. more of your calls coming up. we will turn our attention to the history of conventions, talking to barbara perry, from the university of virginia miller center. she will be at our table here in cleveland. we'll get to that conversation coming up, but first let's go back to washington. theme of the

convention is make america great again. the first night was make america safe. make america work again was tuesday night's theme, last andt make america first, tonight, make america one. mashburn,ear from -- oklahoma governor mary fallin, reince priebus, the rnc chair. jerry falwell junior, of liberty university. you will hear from him. thiel, venture capitalist. he will be speaking. as well as yvonne cattrall -- ivanka trump. since you are having a presidential scholar on, we thought we would go through karl rose's article in "the wall how he gets to"

270 votes. "don't waste your time, donald" is the headline. democrats will try for

georgia, but won't win them unless november is a blowout. is next up toward 270 florida, which awards 29 electoral votes. if mrs. clinton wins florida, -- host: now, just to skip ahead again in this article, "mr. trump's best approach might be

to focus on new hampshire, iowa, and michigan, as backups for pennsylvania host: support is strong amongst hispanics. is likely true -- he cannot win the white house if he campaigns in these states. every moment spent barnstorming chicago or portland is one he can't spend in a state where he has a shot. that is karl rove's column this morning in "the wall street journal." int: we are back live here cleveland with a look at the q, the quicken loans arena. we are on day four of the republican national convention. we are about one mile away, just down the road from the downtown

area of cleveland, and at our table is barbara perry, presidential scholar at the millerity of virginia's center. thanks for being here. guest: great to be with you, greta. host: let's put senator ted cruz's speech into historical context. what you make of it? guest: funny enough, i was chatting with my driver about that, and he said any other examples of that, and there are -- hardly anything is new or unprecedented, except for donald trump himself. go back to 1964, nelson rockefeller leading the moderates from the northeast and the republican party as it began to shift toward the west and the southwest with barry goldwater as its standardbearer, but very conservative. nelson rockefeller got up to give the speech in which he continued to make the moderate case for more liberal republicanism, and was being booed.

let's switch to the democrat said -- 1968, in chicago. people remember if they were alive at the time or read the history of violence in the streets. violence on the floor. some tv correspondents were being hustled off the floor, pushed away by thugs, critically those led by then mayor daley from chicago. from connecticut got up to speak, he was being booed by other factions from the party, and other -- and an hansen medical slurs were being hurled against him from mayor daley. everything old is new again, and vice versa. host: let's go back to the republicans in 1964. the divisions there -- what impact did it have on that november? guest: it had a huge impact. barry goldwater was swept up in a tidal wave with lyndon johnson winning in a landslide, and huge majorities built up in the house of representatives and the senate, which allowed lyndon

johnson to pass things like the 1964 civil rights act, which was already there at the time the kennedys introduced it before president kenny -- president kennedy's assassination. through johnson's leadership, and a huge majorities that built up, they were able to pass that. in 1965, past the voting rights act. pushing through the great society with things like medicare. it had a huge impact that split in the republican party between the extreme view of barry goldwater and the more moderate rockefeller republicans, but it had a huge impact on public policy for years to come, that we are still living with, most people think to the good, but there are still people that have disagreements with what went on 1965, with the great society programs of lyndon johnson. host: were there any attempts to within the republican party leading up to that november?

guest: no, there really weren't, because once you have a wing of the party that were true believers -- and the goldwater republicans were true believers to be sure. they put the head. if you are a true believer, in many ways it does not matter if you lose because you believe in what you believe so strongly that you don't even care if you lose. the fact of the matter is we go then to the next election of 19 the eight with richard nixon -- 1968 with richard nixon. people go back and think richard nixon, a conservative, anti-communist hunter of the 1960's, and he was her byzantine not the rockefeller wing of the party, but somewhere in between -- was representing not the rockefeller wing of the party, but somewhere in between. it took them four years before they could elect a candidate, richard nixon in 1968. host: do you see any comparison to the republicans, the grassroots, the voters this time around that was similar to what was happening the last time we had a -- as the smithsonian magazine called it -- "the

ugliest of conventions?" guest: it seems to me donald trump is an unprecedented candidate by having no government experience and no political experience. you have to go back to 1940 and republicans selection of wendell wilkie, another businessman, who went down to defeat to fdr, we should point up your donald trump himself is so unprecedented, it is hard to find historical context. presidential study history, we have our work cut out for us. it is populist movement that was also the bernie sanders movement . the combination of bernie sanders reaching out in a populist message, donald trump reaching out in a populist message -- yes, there are populist in both parties, but we have to number one-third of americans don't identify with either of the two major parties, so what we're talking about populace, we are talking about image of part of independent

americans that consider themselves populace. host: presidential historian barbara perry here to take your questions and comments about this time around -- the 2016 of the national convention. republicans -- chris -- -- what donald ask trump needs to do in his speech? guest: first, he has to unify the party. we know he has to -- his work cut out for him, but maybe ted cruz led to unify behind donald trump because people on the convention floor among the delegates were not very happy with ted cruz. it may be that he helped serve to unify just last night alone. what donald trump needs to do is pump up his core believers -- true believers in donald trump and that populist message.

those will be the people in the delegate selection process. then he needs to reach out to those who did not support him among the delegates, and within the party as a whole, and then he needs to pivot. he needs to pitted to reach americans -- pivot to reach american to did not get behind them, who are independent, lean republican, and might be open to the populist message, and he needs to broaden his base beyond strictly white voters. host: how does he get ted cruz's delegates behind him after what happened last night? guest: he may not. to be honest, he may not. 1964, and wek to see there were probably those republicans who were going to be in favor of the moderate ring -- wing, and there was a famous ad with an actor portraying a more moderate, can, who said i've been a republican my whole life, my parents are republicans, i just of the guy can go for the

extremism of barry goldwater. host: let's get to calls. mary lynn in columbus, ohio. how are you? caller: good. i am a supporter of trump and very disappointed and embarrassed of john kasich. when the convention came to ohio, he was very proud, yet he of ohio downeople and embarrassed them. the people of ohio should ask him to resign. he was late leaving the campaign, it is also sour grapes as far as he is concerned. host: all right, we will take that. that is on the happening here in cleveland. guest: yes, and away, even though kasich was a conservative and in some ways he was the opposite of the wing splitting off from the candidate in 1964, he is more conservative, in his mind, then donald trump, and probably in reality he is more conservative. i saw an interview with him the

other night and he said i am standing on visible. he threw a big reception at the rock 'n roll hall of fame in cleveland, and you should've seen the people gathered around the governor. it was almost as though he had won the nomination, and i am sure he is enjoying the moment. one must give credit in terms of standing up for his pencil, but i can understand the caller's upset. she wants a party to unify behind donald trump. any historical president for a candidate who ran to not get behind the party's nominee, like you are seen with senator ted cruz, and governor john kasich, and then have that be about a future campaign -- a winning one? guest: hard to find in our history, but i'm thinking back to the republicans in the split between the more moderate wing represented by general eisenhower, who was not a political animal in that sense like donald trump, though he had 30 years of military experience,

but had not run for elected office. he was even being courted by the democrats in 1952. you take an example like that where he ran against the taft of wingarty, and the taft would hang in for many years to come. one could make the case the rick -- the wing comes around to the taft said and then eventually to ronald reagan. host: ohio. tell me your name -- caller: -- host: you are on the air. is ar: yes, there precedent for this scenario, what happened last night with cruz. but i wonder if the context was the same, because i can't imagine the backlash republicans are giving against cruz for

saying vote your conscience -- that we should all vote our conscience always. he put the country above the party, and they are chastising him. republicansgine the who are chastising cruz are saying vote your conscious. he did not say do not vote for trump, vote for hillary, so was it a similar context? i don't think the context in 1964 was the same. host: ok, understood. he did not say anything critical of donald trump, as one caller pointed out as well, but he did not use as what one delegate called thee e word. guest: that is right. he tiptoed to the line and did not cross it. he is running for years hence.

this is his announcement for 2020, and who could blame him -- if trump should go down in defeat, why would he want to star?to that this was his moment in the sun to make, much like kasich, a principled argument for the things he believes in. what about this distinction of not endorsing, but not criticizing? guest: it is neutral, and we often vote -- quote from dante "the hottest places in hell are reserved for those in times remain neutral." in short-term, it is not helping the party, and it does not help donald trump. host: diane is next, in bloomfield, indiana, home of the running mate, indiana governor mike pence. go ahead. caller: hi. my comment, i think about ted

cruz and what he did or didn't do last night really is about what the republican party stands for. if we believe what we say we believe in that -- and i am a registered democrat -- but i am so disappointed in hillary clinton, and if we believe that she has lied and that she is not trustworthy, how can we possibly make our own agenda, which i think ted cruz did, how can we make that more important than solidifying what the party is trying to do now? it is not about donald trump. it is not about ted cruz. it is about defeating something end could very well be the of our country as we know it if we are allowing her to get into office. host: all right, diana. guest: right, it seems to me there is a point to be made there, and that is rather than focus on the schisms in the

republican party, it sounds as though the caller is saying let's look at what we are trying to defeat. then that raises the question do you want to go so negative as a party? do you want to say this is what we are against? we are against hillary clinton -- and there are people that believe that fervently. interestingly enough, the caller said she is a registered democrat. it backs the question, how many registered democrats are feeling that -- they cannot get behind hillary clinton for whatever reasons, in this case it sounds the caller, a moral one. host: ok. let's hear from diane in arkansas. .aller: hi i kind of want to talk -- i think first off ted cruz looked like a worm last night. that is the one thing i want to say. i think that tells it all. i had three screens going yesterday. i had c-span on one, nbc on another, and i could see them

cnn on the live screen on my computer, and all 'sring the film of trump children -- they had a film of him. they had it on the audience. they didn't show one second of his kids. this is cnn didn't show it. after i looked at the nbc one, tom brokaw and that mess, they were ridiculing trompe because he did not stay on the stage with --trump because he did not stay on the stage with pence. he just waved goodbye. they were saying he is not a politician -- he does not know how they do things. well, of course, that is why he is up there. he is not a politician. they were completely ridiculing him, and that is what trump is

up against. he knows how to do it. leave him alone. don't make can be a politician. he is smart enough. he got where he has because he is not a politician. they were laughing and ridiculing trump. this is nbc, and i think they're going to get laughed at. did surprised that trump what he did, but he knew what he was doing. ridiculing,f that when he first started in, so all of the tv's would want him on there, so he got all of that free stuff. he is a smart man. host: all right, diane. diane, a republican there from arizona. guest: right. i think it is amazing. i love the fact that she is watching three networks at the same time, including c-span, which is especially important. it reminds me of lyndon johnson sitting in the oval office, had a council of three television screens, in a day with there and hely three channels,

wanted to get the perspective of each of the three major networks. pence to her point about andpence -- to her point about pence and trump, it was a bit awkward, and i see her point that it was different. i was watching a network that said why didn't trump stay out with him, and the caller is quite right to say trump is his own man. he is doing things a different way, doing things not as a politician, and that has been his appeal with a populist message. host: the caller also brought up donald trump's children. guest: yes. host: is there a precedent for children speaking at the convention, and talk about the role they are playing this weekend at the convention. me whoit is amazing to follows presidential history, and children and first ladies -- it used to be first of all that presidents didn't come to

conventions. it was only franklin roosevelt in the 1930's that started coming to the convention to accept that nomination. it was almost viewed as something that would sully the candidate to get involved in those dirty politics. he would stay behind in his hometown, usually, and then make a formal appearance to accept the nomination. having the presidential candidate there is a new phenomenon in all of american history. then he used to be that presidents, if their parents were still living -- i'm thinking of rose kennedy in 1960 -- came with her son the night he was voted into be the candidate -- not that he gave his talk, but she was there then as well. his wife was pregnant. couldn't come to los angeles. kennedy's mother came to represent the family. then the children started getting involved. i'm thinking of the bush daughters -- the bush twins speaking for their dad the republican convention. it is also a fairly new

phenomenon for first ladies to stand and hold the bible for the as they are sworn in on inauguration day. it is amazing to me how families have become a major part of the process. i think this is rather unprecedented to have them gathered at the convention and speaking. we think of the roosevelt children. fdr had four sons and a daughter -- because he was somewhat limited by his handicap, his polio victimhood, he was send his daughters and his sons on the campaign trail. it is not unprecedented, but in the more modern era were more families are participating, to have the truck children playing a front and --trump children playing a front and center role is unprecedented. of --they also be part seem to be part of his inner circle, his decision-making. guest: yes. even george w. bush was called by his dad to come participate

in the presidency. you think of jack kennedy relying on his brother bobby. these were young people in their 30's and 40's coming to washington with very little experience. jack kennedy had been in congress, but bobby had not held public office. jack kennedy's dad wanted bobby to be in the cabinet, and said to jack you have to make an attorney general, and it turned out bobby had jack's back, especially during the cuban missile crisis. very unprecedented to have a group of adult children as a kitchen cabinet for the candidate, and maybe the president. host: betty, a democrat in arkansas. caller: cam ion now? host: you are on, betty. clinton knows what she has doing because she has been with the president for years. she has spent 30 years behind

that desk, knowing what is going on. if donald trump gets in there, he will not know what is going on and he will screw up everything. thosel talk about killing people, killing these people, watching bloodshed. he has been talking about that on tv. you don't talk that way. the only reason he is jumping all over her and rubbing stuffed into her is so everyone will get off his back and find out everything he has been doing, and what he has been doing is worse than what mrs. clinton even thought of doing. it is worse. all right, that he, we will take your question about expense. guest: well, president obama, in his endorsement, called hillary clinton the most qualified person ever to run for president. that may be a stretch, but it is the case that she came out of law school, and has been in and

out of washington since that time since the 1970's, not to mention her time as first lady at the elbow of the president, running the health-care initiative in the 1990's, going on to be a senator in her own right -- the only first lady to run for public office and then it, and then as secretary of state. it would be hard to find a candidate with more history, more inside history and experience than hillary clinton. for --his is a story from "the new york times" host: historically, for a republican nominee to talk about nato the way he is talked about nato? guest: certainly, in the modern era -- as we mentioned before that was the eisenhower wing, wing, and a wind

that was very isolationist, but now it would be unheard of, particularly in the reagan let us defeat the evil empire. for a republican, or for that matter, a democrat, to really question whether we should stick to nato obligations -- i think that statement is reflective of this populism and reflective of what happened in england with the brexit vote. get out of these entangling alliances was a populist message in great britain several weeks ago. host: tom in minneapolis. democrat. hi, there. caller: hello. i am calling you from the hotbed of the twin cities. we are the hottest in the country, i am afraid. i think that trump might be the triumph of style over substance, and i am starting to believe more and more -- and this is why i'm calling, to ask for your historic, presidential

ms. perry., landslide, and this is where where donald trump has supporters -- they will not change for anything. those donald trump people are there. 40%, but there are about 50%, 60%, 70% of the country that might not want donald trump anywhere around, and ultimately donald trump might be defeated tremendously, and therefore ted cruz and the more moderate voices in the republican party will come back. what you think about the possibility of a hillary clinton landslide? guest: i would say in this campaign season anything is possible. there were those, i know, in my field of political science, and presidential history, who this time last year were exclaiming there is no way donald trump

could win the republican nomination, but here we are. he has won the republican nomination. i got out of the prediction business a long time ago, but i think the caller could be right. it is possible we could see a landslide in favor of hillary clinton, particularly if you go today, ifl rove piece donald trump does not win the key states and get those key votes. point in-- to tom's minnesota, style over substance -- we see that with john kennedy in 1960, the first television candidate, the first person who understood and had people around him who understood television and the importance around it, and some people to this day will say kennedy represented style over substance, and you could make the argument there was substance there, and i think certainly more than donald trump, but if donald trump wins, i think it will be the apotheosis of style over substance. host: "new york times" today

online, "who will be president? that is according to polls, state and national polls right now at this moment. they say victory by mr. trump remains quite possible, though. louise, virginia. a republican. caller: hello, i think that the miller will, the wilson school, and i do think god or c-span -- you can watch the various speakers. i think that these are institutions that have lived past their time. i want to also say that you spoke that black americans are not voting for donald trump. well, i don't know who you know living in your ivory tower, but i will guarantee you there are tons of black americans

supporting donald trump. host: all right, the wii let's get a response. -- louise, let's get a response. guest: i have to say the miller center has been in place as the 1970's, and i would like to let the caller know he would probably be a tea partiers today -- he was a conservative southerner so worried about the great society of the 1960's, the rise, and the student out -- uprising, that he wanted a nonpartisan institution that the military -- the miller center -- the caller referred to it as an ivory tower. we do not see it that way, and neither did mr. miller. you want to have history and scholarship informed politics and policy of the current day. in addition, we have done the oral history of every president starting with jimmy carter, and we are about to finish up bush 43. every president are talked to and asked questions in a nonpartisan way, and the view is

we would be informing today's politics and policy with history, and we think that is a great way to go. we are grateful mr. miller thought that as well. with this from npr this morning. take that. host: we see -- guest: we see this with donald trump starting some months ago with references to the silent majority -- that was the richard nixon view -- if you're a democrat and you are scared, come over to the republican side. i hear you. i hear that you are scared. i am the law and order candidate, and we have heard donald trump borrow that message as well. i suspect that will be a richard will -- he will follow tonight and probably throughout the campaign. host: barbara perry, thank you for the conversation. guest: wonderful to be with you, greta. enjoyed it very much. host: we appreciate it. when we come back, we will be

live with day four. we'll be back after more from peter in washington. host: every day outside the quicken loans arena there have been demonstrations and thursday's demonstrations at the cleveland republican national convention include anti-trump and libertarian marches. the final day includes local physicians leading a march to protest presidential nominee donald trump's rhetoric involving muslims, and the people fight back, march against racism, is scheduled for willard park in cleveland. there have been 18 arrest. s that was on the -- 18 arrests. of thes on the third day convention. yesterday there were some protests, and here is a look at what it looked like outside.

rhetoric in this campaign is back to real racism, and real abuses of power, and it is time that we drew more than a line in the sand, and i'm here to raise awareness for what a vote for trump means. it is a vote against me, as a queer person, a vote against everyone that is black or brown. >> this makes visible what a wall around trump does -- in this case it is a wall of hatred. to promote love, understanding, relationships -- all the things that he is against. >> we are here to really just push back against his rhetoric, to be honest. -- timewhy i'm here here to say this is not ok, and i'm willing to put my body on

the line. outside theas quicken loans arena in downtown cleveland yesterday. in other news, "the national journal" is reporting donald trump raise $27 million in june. that compares to $44 million the hillary clinton campaign has on hand. from "the hill" newspaper this prison" "hillary for t-shirt is a bestseller in cleveland for the conventioneers. another article from "the hill," newt gingrich is pushing trump to issue hundreds of executive orders on his first day in office. newt gingrich, who is expected to serve as a senior policy says heif the gop wins would urge a newly elected president trump to sign as many as 300 executive orders on his first day in office. it says that one thing that trump might do according to gingrich would be to move the

u.s. embassy in israel from tel aviv to jerusalem. the move would please many pro-israeli jewish voters and christians, and newt gingrich also highlighted an executive order authorizing construction of the keystone xl pipeline as another item on that first-day agenda. and, finally, this morning, from the dallas morning news, you have probably seen this if you have an watching the convention delegates sport $30,000 worth of donated cowboy hats, lone star flag shirts." every four years --

host: there is a picture of the texas delegation in their outfits. back here in cleveland, about one mile from the quicken loans arena, we have portela, and gus you have said your biggest passion is to bridge the gap between the step -- hispanic voters and the republican party. thanks for being here. guest: thanks for having me,

greta. host: you are on the floor when you heard the reaction to ted cruz and reaction from your fellow delegates. what was it like from your perspective? guest: it was certainly very interesting. being on the floor, it was great, my first convention there. they were very excited to hear from senator ted cruz, and more importantly to hear from governor mike pence, an unknown commodity to the grassroots, because he is based out of indiana, but a former congressman, very a compass governor in his last four years in and -- accomplished governor in his last four years in indiana. earlier in the day, senator ted cruz talked to some of his delegates and supporters in cleveland and he was greeted chants of "2020." governor kasich has talked to the milliken -- michigan delegation but he has not

decided to be in the queue or give a speech to convention dollars. have saidrprised they they are not endorsing him? guest: i am a little bit, but it is part of the process. more important, they should come behind the nominee. we have an important mission in the fall, and that is to win back the white house. host: an part of that mission will get to hispanic voters to vote for donald trump. how is that going to happen? guest: absolutely. guest:first, donald trump has aligned himself as the law and order candidate. it is very important that we secure our borders. this is something the republican party has, for a very long time now, spoken about, in making sure that we first of all deal with the problems on the border -- the drug cartels causing so many problems across the border,

but also a broken immigration system. if there is someone that is going to do something about it, i believe it is going to be donald trump. host: why do you say that when he says he wants to build a wall, and that is offended some, many in the latino committee, you can say? latinos, like myself, are looking for law and order. they come from countries that have had issues with gangs and issues with their government being so oppressive in central america and south america. the reason they come to this country is to seek a better life, seek law and order, seek freedom. it is very important, your to do that, you have to have a country of borders because a country of borders is like a coffee cup. it is important to have borders. while having borders, you have to have secure borders, and that is exactly what the republican party and donald trump want to do. host: we have been showing viewers the protesters that have built a wall out of cloth, upset

about what donald trump has said, and then this from "the washington times" -- ramos, the anchor for univision, what impact do you think that has? guest: in my opinion, i think e rommel's has disqualified himself, taking things out of context. he is not been critical about the remarks that hillary clinton, and even to a degree bernie sanders have said about socialism -- things that are happening in the for example, in venezuela. bernie sanders claimed we need to have a government like venezuela -- there is a huge problem in venezuela -- there is no fee for people. food is being rationed. grocery stores -- the problems are so big that grocery stores are running out of food. if we're going to be like

venezuela, you'd better be able to step up for it, and that is something jorge ramos has not covered. i think he has been upset with some of the, donald trump has said, but i think we need to move on and cover things up, trump has said that will help the country. having a country of borders, again, that is a huge thing. , i am very excited to hear from him tonight and see what his speech will be like, especially if he touches on immigration reform, and i suspect jorge ramos will again cover it in a negative light. [laughter] guest: and -- host: and what do you want to hear from donald trump about that? guest: well, in addition to building a wall, what else is he going to do to fix the broken immigration system? this is something both parties have talked about -- even barack obama has talked about it for all of eight years, and we have seen nothing. in fact, barack obama went on to endorse hillary clinton, and if you believe what he is saying,

that she is going to help the country, and help solve our immigration crisis, that is a huge problem for me as an hispanic. he has done nothing, and that she will do believe the same -- four more years of doing nothing. host: we'll get to the gulf. steve in charleston. gustav -- caller: gustavo, a push to talk to you. i was not what you talk about immigration, but since you brought it up, this unchecked immigration policy has to stop. i do not care if you are a democrat, republican, or independent, at some point we will reach saturation in system will be strained to the point of breaking, and it will hurt everyone. that is an economic given. we have to have some kind of control. we have to start closing the door. talk about the gap between trump and the republican party and latinos/hispanics that i wonder if the gap is as big as some

people say. we know more republicans came out in florida in the primary than democrats. they really came out in support of trump. we know trump has to carry florida. we know the republicans have to have a 29 electoral votes. we have to have the labor states, and he is appealing to those states more and more because of the job problem. we know he is appealing to the coal miner states. about texas and florida -- i do not think the gap is as big as some people think it is between trump and hispanics. votes some people casting from hispanic communities, and , bless your, ted heart. he is notpeal is that part of the washington political community. ted, you are. people are tired of that. they want that rogue guy. trump is almost like an

independent death of running as a republican, -- that found himself running as a republican, and that is what people want. your comments, please. guest: i agree with you. i think we will -- need to solve immigration columns, and the human person that can do that is donald trump. hillary clinton has been in the senate for multiple years, serving at least two terms in the senate, and did nothing about it. barack obama was president for eight years and did nothing about it. you could argue he supported more immigrants than any republican president before him. i think we truly need the leadership of ted cruz to help out in bringing texas, make sure d going back toe your comment on florida, i've seen recent polling that has donald trump competitive down there. hispanics are open to voting for trump because he is in the law -- order candidate -- he is they come to the country seeking

the same freedoms you and i have, and that is important to continue to have. it is an important discussion, and i think immigrants that come to the country should be part of it. "political" said -- says trump and his surrogates continuously site polls that -- think well, you know, i the race is still pretty early. coming out of the convention, if there is one party that has truly worked very hard to reach out to hispanic voters, it has been the republican party under the leadership of reince priebus, who put together an unprecedented field program, never seen before, very data-driven. that will help out donald trump as a nominee to enhance that

infrastructure going into the general election. that will be helpful. you have people that have been on the ground for more than a year registering people to vote. if anybody benefits from that, it will be donald trump. again, people have to remember this is a three-way race, and no one has reached the magic 50% plus one number. i think having gary johnson in the race is still in a little bit of hillary clinton's votes from sanders voters that are disenfranchised and still mad about the senator not the nomination, and being shoved to the side by the party. i think that is going to, in the end, help donald trump. host: oakton, virginia. luis, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am really frightened about donald trump. first of all, i think the character structure of this man is really scary. narcissism and impulsivity scare the wits out of me. if someone insults him, he is after them.

it is about him, nothing else. xenophobia is not going to work for others. who in the world talks about carpet bombing -- going after the family of isis? you know what this reminds me of, not see germany. you know -- you do something wrong, we are going after your past,, yet he gets the like when he comes up with crazy stories like ted cruz's father helped to assassinate john f. kennedy. give me a break. if that is not a lie, is a delusion -- what do you call that? how dangerous is it going to be to have a man that could say anything and doesn't care that it is a downright lie? get a responseo from our michigan delegate here. guest: louise, i think that -- its that donald trump think they're a little bit exaggerated.

if anything we have heard, especially from his own family, his kids, is that the man truly cares about his country. i think what most appeals to me as a delegate is he is a businessman. he knows how to run a business and create jobs. if anything, that is what this country needs. especially for young people -- if voting had started at age 30, governor romney would be president or we'll be talking nominating governor romney for reelection. never one issue is jobs and the economy. having someone like donald trump pushes message about economic reform in creating jobs is exactly what we need. again, i cannot stress enough the fact that the media is inflating a little bit some of his comments. i actually think he is going to do a good job as president. importantly, he is going to create jobs. that is what people should be focused on. heo not believe the comments has made in the past are necessarily true, if anything.

i think truly was he wants -- what he wants to do for the country is create jobs and move the country forward. a democrat in mobile, alabama. caller: good morning. first of all, i am calling to represent my female comrades. the things i have worried about this -- there are so many passes given to this man. here is my question -- they are running this man as a family man. this man is not a family man. this is a man with many families. how many of these children went with him when he divorced his wives, and he raised them? i beg to say -- i am just guessing here, but i bet those ex-wives raised those nice children, and it looks to me like he is getting an awful lot of past for this. he has a nine-year-old son we don't hear too much about, but he is running as president. donald trump is not running for

president. he is running the trump family business for president. it scares me badly. are acatherine, you democrat. i do not know if you listen to melania trump's speech monday night could she talked about her son. what has been your impression of the trump children? guest: well, i think donald trump has given his children a lot to do with the family business. -- after all, this is the trump family organization, so it has his name all over it. he has done a very good job of including his children. his children are very invested. iseone like ivanka trump second in command in the organization. that is giving a lot of decision-making power to a female, his daughter, and she is very qualified. his comments about him not caring about women, or him not necessarily being friendly to women -- i think it is, again,

overplayed. is someone running that organization at a high level, and women should be looking up to someone like her. many of the young women i speak to you in my generation, they look to someone like ivanka trump as a role model because she is in the decision-making process, a high-ranking official in the trump organization, and that speaks to donald trump, and how he feels about young women and how they should be involved in the decision making process. host: by the way, ivanka trump will speak this evening ahead of her father. we also heard from tiffany trump, donald trump junior, and eric trump last night. ace in corpus christi, texas. republican. caller: i have something to get off my chest very quickly, which is hillary should be prosecuted

like any other citizen of the united states of america. second, i know you were talking about immigration reform, and i am all for it -- that in immigrants before. about building a wall -- we have tried to do it in the past. bill clinton has tried to do it, george bush tried to do it, and no wall has existed to do its job properly -- the berlin wall, the chinese -- the great wall there. i have one more question, and that question would be who is the elect oral college, -- the electoral college, who makes of them, and where can we find that information? host: a real quick answer from you, if we could. what is your reaction? guest: you're absolutely right, their government and party has tried very hard to back some sort of policy that would mandate creating a wall, a fence, securing the border. i think it is very important. if anyone is going to do that, it will be donald trump. host: i will jump in -- i want

to go to the house. we will keep our commitment here at c-span. the house has been doing a pro forma session every day. we're going to go to the house and watch as they do this pro forma session, and will come bar the republican national convention. 2016. i hereby appoint the honorable

michael k. simpson to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, paul d. ryan, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the prayer will be offered by the guest chaplain, the reverend vincent derosa from st. peter's catholic church in washington, d.c. the chaplain: let us pray. we pray the o god of might, wisdom and justice, let the light of divine wisdom direct the deliberations of congress and enshrine forth framed for our rule so that they may tend to the preservation of peace, the promotion of national happiness, the increase of industry, sew bright and useless knowledge and may perpetuate to us the blessings of equal liberty. we pray to all officials appointed to our political welfare that they may discharge the duties of their respective stations with honesty and

ability. we recommend likewise to thy unbounded mercy all our fellow citizens throughout these united states that they be blessed in the knowledge and sanctified in the observance of thy most holy law that they may have peace which the world cannot give. amen. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 8-a of house resolution 820, the journal of the last day's proceedings is approved. the chair will lead the house in the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. pursuant to clause 4 of rule 1, the following enrolled bills were signed by the speaker pro tempore messer on monday, july 18. the clerk: h.r. 2607, h.r.

3700, h.r. 3931, h.r. 3953, h.r. 4010, h.r. 4425, h.r. 6777, .r. 4761, h.r. h.r. 77, h.r. 4904, 4925, h.r. 4976, h.r. 4987, r. 5028, h.r. 5722, senate 764, senate 2893, senate 3055, senate 207. -- 3207. the speaker pro tempore: under clause 5-d, in light of the passing of the gentleman from hawaii, the whole number of the 433. is 533 -- pursuant to section 8-b of

house resolution 8 20, the house stands adjourned until 12:30 p.m. on monday, july 25, 2016.

host: gus is talking about the republican convention this weekend and also his effort to bridge the gap between the hispanic voters and republican party. elmo in baton rouge, louisiana, democrat. thanks for waiting. caller: how are you doing? this man, i'm trying to really understand where he's coming from. if he says that president obama trying to do the thing about immigration, they tried to do it but who do you think stopped every time they tried to do it? it was a republican. john mccain tried to do one. everybody -- i mean, a lot of people tried to do it but the republicans are the ones killing it. but you sit here and say donald trump is going to make all this stuff better. look, there is a thing called a forest. you sit here drinking the kooh-aid. nothing is going to change -- kool-aid. nothing is going to change. they say he's a great businessman.

this is about being able to negotiate with foreign leaders on a political scale. donald trump knows nothing about that, has no experience. mike pence will say he has doing something. this is talking about what president obama hasn't done. president obama hasn't done a whole lot but would have done more if the republicans would have went along with it. host: all right, elmo. thanks for calling. guest: i think it's interesting. first of all, i disagree with you respectfully. i think president obama has -- had the opportunity to come to the table many times, especially work with republican leaders like john boehner and mitch mcconnell but has instead chosen to do his own style of immigration reform by deporting immigrants at record numbers through executive orders and i think that's not democratic. it's unbecoming of a president, in my opinion. if he truly wants to negotiate immigration reform i think he should come to the table and speak to people like senator

mcconnell and to speak to speaker ryan. these are people, these are very, very strong republican leaders that want to do what's best for the country and more importantly want to come to the table. i think it's largely been president obama, in my opinion, at least, that has not come to the table and been willing to negotiate. host: let's hear next from nancy in ohio, republican. caller: yeah. i got three things to say. three subjects. one, ok. i'm from ohio. as far as i'm concerned, john has has -- and ted cruz overinflated, superego, superior-oriented attitude where they were elected by people. they are supposed to do what e voters say, and they betrayed their voters.

ok. different subject. nobody's brought up ross perot. he was a millionaire businessman that wanted to help america to get out of the hole. this is what ross perot was good at. i voted for him. and this is what donald trump is good at. host: all right, nancy. gus. guest: i think you're right, nancy. that's something that donald trump was good at. he turned a profitable business into a successful business. going back to, you know, john kasich and senator cruz, i think they have their own decisions to make but i as a delegate and more importantly as a republican want to see a united party going into november. i think we have the bigger opportunity to take over the white house than we perhaps had

before. we have a very weak candidate that even members of the president's administration have been very hesitant to embrace and more importantly we had someone like f.b.i. director james comey to say she's basically unqualified to lead. she's disqualified herself based on her emails. i actually agree with speaker ryan on this. he's worried she won't be able to handle classified information. she's proven she can't handle classified information. that worries to me not only as a voter but as a millennial party. i think the party should come together and unite around donald trump. is it tough to do? i understand he's not said nice things in the past about these guys but at the end of the day it's about coming together and making sure we win in the fall. host: tim in maryland, independent caller. tim, what do you think about what's happening here in cleveland?

caller: good morning. thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my thoughts. there was l, i think nothing principled what ted cruz and john kasich has done so far. they didn't support the epublican nominee. they're self-righteous. i mean, it's disgraceful what cruz did last night. i'm an independent. i'm from nigeria and i have a couple of my friends who are from nigeria just like me. we are supporting trump. we have never voted in this country, and we're all americans, by the way. we are supporting trump. there's more out there that has been watching this election closely who are going to vote trump so the media, the pundits

can say whatever. nobody listens to the pundits. we don't care what you guys on tv have to say. we're fed up. we have come from countries ruled by dictators so we know dictatorship when we see them. this country has been ruled under corporate dictatorships. this is the one opportunity that you guys have to change course. i am black. i will never vote for obama a million times. so this -- host: ok, tim. us portela, what do you think? guest: tim, you certainly brought up some things. that's why there was a record turnout in the republican primaries because people are fed up with politics as usual. people are fed up with politics in washington. you have the ultimate insider in hillary clinton and outside in donald trump.

you go up against someone that's never had experience in government, never held any elected office versus someone that's lived in the white house, someone who has been living off of the american people essentially on a government salary. her entire life. and so i think this is a very, very historical election, different election than one we've seen before. i agree with you, people are fed up. people are tired with politics as usual. you have politicians who are getting elected, saying they're going to do something and doing something completely different. by the way, that does include hillary clinton. so it's very important that we elect someone and we come together as a party, that we elect someone in the fall, a republican, donald trump, that will, you know, shake things up in washington. i agree with you. but it's also important that we have, you know, dissenting voices at times, right, because that allows donald trump to also come to the table and listen to people's concerns. so i think what you're seeing with senator cruz and governor

kasich. i remain optimistic i think they'll come to the table and help republican candidates up and down the ballot, including donald trump. host: maryland, -- marilyn, engelwood, tennessee. i think you're next. caller: hi. i'd like an answer about the question about the electoral college because i never understood it either. i still don't understand how it works, how they get nominated, whatever. the second thing i want to bring up is that i am in tennessee. d our governor, haslem, is a businessman, he's not a politician. i'm retired now. where i used to work, my son works there now and they are working so much overtime that they're about to kill those folks and there's jobs around here that people can get jobs if they want it. and a lot of them, they're working overtime and they're switching jobs. so that goes to say something about your businessman running your state or your country. thank you.

host: all right. let's hear from david, if we can, in gaithersburg, maryland. hi, david. caller: thank you for taking my call. inaudible] the republicans haven't been able to get across minority groups that the policies that they are trying to put forward aren't beneficial to minority groups. they encourage us, minorities, to become more self-reliant rather than dependent on government programs. another thing about immigration. we really need to look at the causes. why people coming into this country illegally. in part it's to get jobs. the other part would be to get benefits. i think instead of building a wall, if we could address these

two causes. thank you. host: all right. david, let's take your point. gus portela. guest: i think the previous caller hit the nail right on the head. i think we should elect more businessmen into government. you have a great governor in tennessee. i think he's done a wonderful job and taking over a previously held democratic government and really working to bring more jobs into the state and as a businessman he's somebody that's instituted great policies to make sure the state grows in terms of jobs. i think you're right. it's one of the most successful states in the country currently. going back to the next caller from maryland, my friend, the republican. i also think that it's very important that we look at border issues, right. i understand the fence and everything. people can get caught up in just the simple details of it. i think it's very important we look at securing the border. i think it's a very important

issue. it remains a very important issue. even for hispanics, jobs and the economy are top for them. they're coming into this country for the jobs. they're coming into the country for benefits. i think america as a country should be very proud that people are wanting to come here because people have a better way of life than most of these countries do. most of these countries are ruled by very corrupt government. this country provides better benefits and a better way of life for people can realize their own dreams. this speaks very much to our way of life. people wanting to come here to experience that. host: one last call here for you. comes from nancy in austin, texas, an independent. hi, nancy. caller: hi. i was just wanting to say something to the people to figure out whether they want to vote for trump. he is the only candidate that is against the trans-pacific partnership, the only one. and if you don't understand what that does, it's going to

cause us to lose more jobs and industry and yet another international ruling body above our own congress. almost every single problem we have in this country was caused by something the government did. from their actions that's why all the industry left, that's why all the jobs left, that's why they can't to keep us all fighting down here at the bottom so we keep our eyes off of what they've done to us. they bankrupted us. they left the borders wide open. i live in texas. they're told not to stop anybody. our border patrol agents. the man who called, tim from nigeria, welcome to america. you are the type of people we want. you brought brought tears to my eyes when you said welcome. thanks all. guest: i agree with you. i think trump is, you know, the two candidates left standing, i think donald trump is something that can deal with the issues

of today. i think it's very important that republicans after this convention unite and get together and more importantly win in the fall. there's a lot of races out there where republicans need to win in order to bring real change to america and address the real problems of today. host: gus portela, thank you for talking to our viewers and spending time with us in cleveland. guest: absolutely. thank you. host: coming up, we'll talk about donald trump taking the stage tonight and get your thoughts on what you want to hear from the republican nominee. first, let's go back to washington for more from peter. host: gretta, laura is a delegate from texas. she's at the texas delegation breakfast right now where ted cruz is speaking. this is her live social media feed. senator cruz: for that matter, hillary or email server, we're going to lose. [applause] he will win if the dominant

message the voters here is freedom, that this is about your life and your state. that's how you win. cheers and applause] >> i want to ask a question. inaudible]

a fighting chance to win the nomination. [applause] senator cruz: well, thank you for that question. i would point out the role we have -- [laughter] we have those rules because people in power want those rules. and i'm surprised that people in power that write rules they perpetuate them. now, the rules like what appened on the rules committee , i was out of town. i didn't arrive until the end. i understand a lot of delegates fought passionately from the grassroots. said, it seems to me that republicans ought to be picking the republican nominee. [applause] said, it seems

and republicans should choose the republican nominee. i think reforms that enhance the grassroots. [applause] host: a couple of different social media feeds happening. laura kerner's was one but that was not hers. it was eric eggland's social media feed on periscope. here are other delegate tweets coming out this morning and tom from texas, huge crowd of texas delegates and media here this morning to listen to ted cruz in wake of his nonendorsement of donald trump. that was a tweet that he had sent out. becky is also a texas delegate. today we hit full general

election mode. fight for the soul of the u.s. and its citizens. get on the trump train or lose all your rights to the libs. here is florence. florence is a delegate from south dakota. and she says that trump is america's hail mary pass, and we got one more. this is peter who is the national committee man from florida, a cleveland protester lit the american flag at the r.n.c. it doesn't end well for him. he links to this tweet by the cleveland police. protester lit flag on fire. then lit himself on fire. fire. tching others on flames extinguished by firefighters. no serious injuries. host: tonight will be the night when donald trump accepts the

nomination from the republicans here in cleveland. "time" magazine says, "since the first national political conventions were broadcast in 1924, we heard every presidential candidate from calvin coolidge to george w. bush to barack obama declare, i accept this nomination. for republicans, what you want to hear from them, for those that are undecided across the country, what do you want to hear from the republican nominee? robin in maryland, republican caller. good morning to you. caller: good morning. i -- can you hear me? hello. host: we can. you're on the air. caller: ok. i was just wondering. i haven't heard one person talk about last night when donald trump came on the stage and shook mike pence's hand, i turned to my -- when he walked off, i turned to my mother and

i said, how classy was that. he didn't want to steal mike pence's thunder. and i just -- i thought that that was so classy of him because that was mike pence's time to shine. he had just accepted, you know, the vice-presidency in front of, you know, thousands and thousands of people. and i just -- i've been listening to this all morning and i can't see how nobody else saw that. i just -- you know, i just thought that that was very classy of him. so for all those -- host: robin, ahead of tonight's -- fourth night, the last night here of the republican national convention, what do you want to hear from mr. trump himself this evening? host: well, i hear everything that i want to hear. donald trump is, you know, i want to hear him just confirm all of the things that he is promising america.

that's all. host: ok. jay is next. new mexico. independent. caller: hello. i want to thank -- actually, i'm a registered libertarian. i went to the libertarian national convention. i want to thank c-span for givings the no spin coverage of the r.n.c. and also the things that i would like to hear donald trump say tonight is talk about framework, civil liberties, everything that the libertarian stands for, the fastest third growing party in the country. and right now, after seeing what i saw last night with ted cruz, i have the utmost respect for ted cruz. i don't agree with him 100%, but i like what ted cruz said and fighting against fascism in this country and the rise of donald trump and national populism needs to end. host: jay, do you think that donald trump can do what you

just said you want him to do tonight and bring the likes of you and other ted cruz supporters into the fold? caller: well, i am not a ted cruz supporter. i supported rand paul as a libertarian, as a registered libertarian. no, i don't think so. donald trump believes in a progressive taxation. i believe that taxation is theft. host: ok. huffington post, the liberal news site, has this as their banner page this morning. cruz quake, vote your conscience, delegates go nuclear, one state chairman had to be held back, heidi cruz had to be escorted off the floor for her own security, cruz trump's e hatchen in back. -- hatchet in trump's back. caller: i'd like to address a dark, deeply disturbing image

we are all facing this morning and that image is the picture of hillary clinton you have on your t-shirt. i hope no children are watching. but as far as tonight's donald trump speech -- host: moving on to bonnie. bonnie. republican. caller: i appreciate the people you had on the tv this week on your panel here. i have been watching this throughout the convention, and i have to say that as a republican, i'm absolutely thrilled the things i see. there are things that bother me but the one thing i'm very happy about is if our country's going to move ahead in a very solid, an ability to stands and be america, that they address the issues of security and the illegal immigration. it's not the immigration, and i'm glad they're focusing on that and it's the illegal. and the buildup of the

military. my husband served 6 1/2 years. benghazi bothers me. we need to support our military. we need to be there and protect our military. i'm very -- and also, the issue about the economics and the financial and this national debt. this national debt scares me. regarding the speakers they had, i think people have been excellent. they're hitting on the issues. and last night i was very happy. it's like a very good marriage between trump and pence, and newt gingrich i thought was great too because he has a lot of -- he has great knowledge of history of this country. i'm very disappointed in ted cruz. i think he's wanting the attention on him. i wish the news hadn't put so much on him. and i liked how donald trump acted like he was just swatting

at gnat. that's the same thing that my husband would say. and the same thing about his wife. she came from a fashion world. laura bush came from a teacher world. when you compare to michelle and hillary. hillary had a political agenda. her whole speech -- these other women, you know, they're building up. they don't -- michelle can't say like mrs. trump said, oh, i came to this country. i was an immigrant but they don't point out all the things that were different in the speech and she's from a fashion world and did i some research. eleanor roosevelt was one of the first ones that ended up -- that's started where first ladies were speaking at conventions and when you look at it from the base of mrs. trump or like mrs. bush getting up, they brought up things like, you know, supporting the children in our country and things. but they were there to humanize their husbands, to humanize and

show these men are in the political arena and it doesn't matter if they come from a business world or whatever but i think we're right on target if -- i just thinki just think'l thing that trump and mike pence are together. mr. cruz, i'm disappointed. he is still out to get the nomination. him playing around getting attention is just very disappointing. ,ll of the things he preaches he doesn't seem to be walking his talk and he wants the attention on him. he's not a team player. i tried to listen to what he said and it disappointed me. i just am very pleased. i hope people open up their eyes and see the national debt, the illegals, national security.

>host: ok bonnie. you have made your point. chuck in florida. caller: i am also a libertarian. there's a lot more out here than everybody thinks. i would also like to thank my cable company for supporting c-span. i don't know who owns my cable company this week but thank you anyway. like to hear donald trump explain how his policies will help all americans and especially minorities. stemming the time of illegal immigration can only help the hispanics who are here legally. i don't know why the black community ties itself so close to the democrat party. their lives have not improved under obama. school choice, things like school choice. there's nothing better to improve the black community and black neighborhoods. and also, gay americans.

we have been blessed to be basically pretty financially well-off. what puts that in jeopardy is the tax and spend policy of the democrats. i am concerned about donald trump possibly being a big spender. i would like to hear him say something about cutting back on spending to get the budget under control. the program begins this evening at 7:00 p.m. eastern time here on c-span. we will kick off our coverage at 6:00 with more of your coverage after they include tonight programming. drop 1000 pounds of confetti. that will all happen this evening with the delegates cheering on the floor. we will bring you that coverage here on c-span. it is the cable companies that came together to create c-span

as a public service for all of you. our mission here is to show you gavel to gavel coverage of the house and senate. and while we are here in cleveland and next week in philly, the conventions. democrat in ohio. hi there. what are your thoughts about tonight? caller: ok. i'm a democrat. i have been listening and so far i have not heard nothing come out of it. no issues, no -- nothing. all i hear is about hillary this. they are losing an opportunity and i do not think the trump and pence thing is going to work out because trump does not like him. i don'ther thing, understand why they are making

all these things about hillary using the e-mail. used it inezza rice the bushes ministration. half the bush administration used it. i don't understand this double standard. host: ok brenda. when donald trump speaks tonight he will accept the republican nomination for presidency of the united states. his rash outsider persona may signal that his convention speech may be unconventional. his campaign speech in saying it will be modeled on one nearly 50 years ago, richard next and's 1958 nomination -- nixon's 1958 nomination speech. some commentators have drawn parallels between today and 1968. christine in gulf shores, alabama. republican. good morning. caller: good morning and nice to

speak with you. i do have some thoughts on what tonight may be about. and i am truly hoping that he is able to be the real ghostbusters. i am hoping that donald trump just puts to rest the ghost, the phantom of hillary clinton and any of that whole phantom organization that has haunted america for so many years. that is what i would really like to hear. this most unusual candidate do. he is not a seasoned politician and that's what we need. someone who is not. and i hope the americans can also remember from the famous ita,dway stage play ev because hillary clinton is like evita. host: all right christine. there.end it

the campaign manager for donald trump speaking at a daily briefing for reporters. let's listen in. . >> thanks, paul. before the basic program starts, tony perkins makes brief remarks and does the pledge of allegiance. we just missed the campaign manager and what he had to say to reporters. they are talking about this evening's programming, what you will see when it gets underway at 7:00 p.m. eastern. before donald trump speaks, the ivanka trump will speak. you can listen to every night of

tonight's last night -- every minute of tonight's last night here in cleveland. rudy, democrat. caller: yes, hello greta. i would just like to see if donald trump is actually going to say anything. the convention because i'm a political junkie and i had to turn it off because they really weren't saying anything. so i am going to watch tonight and see if he comes up with something substantial that i can actually listen to as a liberal democrat. and as a liberal democrat i pray that the media do not keep bothering mrs. trump. it was not her fault. i will support her as a liberal democrat that this whole situation, i believe she didn't have anything to do with it. thank you very much greta. -- areudy, before you go

you going to vote for hillary clinton in november? caller: definitely. i am a 60-year-old black male. i will vote for anybody democrat. that just happens to be who i am. host: you might have seen the news that the trump staff writer behind melania's speech apologizes for later as an -- plagiarism. the trump campaign released a letter wednesday from a writer who said she offered her resignation for the firestorm. tina in arlington, virginia. independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning, greg. i wanta. i want people to know that i am a woman of color and donald trump is not a racist man.

i want people to stop calling him racist. he's not a racist. i'm going to vote for donald trump. i watched him through the whole primaries reason. he has already said what he's going to do for the people. he has said other things. i think he's adhd, but that's just who he is. we all have some kind of deficiency. but i'm going to vote for donald trump. caller: good morning, greta. guys. to congratulate you i'm on the independent line.

i have heard everything basically donald trump has got to say. what i would like to hear more of is -- what? how he's going to do these things? i'm all for what he says. but i would like to do more on how he's going to do these things. host: ok. paul in chicago. a democrat. what do you want to hear from the republican nominee? caller: yes. why do you refuse to explain the electoral process? host: paul, say it again? electoral process? caller: yes. i had two callers call in and you refused to explain it. host: all right -- why are you bringing it up? why does it matter to you? caller: because it's important for everyone to understand. host: ok. we will get something.

let's go back to the rnc daily briefing. anafort taking questions. trump has said consistently is that he thinks nato needs to be modernized and brought into the world of the where terrorism and isis which didn't exist when nato was created are taken into account in the way they deal with things. borderless countries of ice is present challenges to the west. i'm not going to get into a foreign policy speech today but he was talking about how we need to modernize things. any other questions about the convention? >> we have seen white

supremacists among the protesters here. what do you say about what debbie wasserman schultz says and the problems of anti-semitism? >> do you know who debbie wasserman schultz is? do you know what her title is? ok, so she is obviously making political statements. we have had rabbis. i don't control who is in a protest rally on the streets. any other questions? [inaudible] >> everybody reads their own interpretation. the next speaker after senator cruz was his son.

we were on a tight schedule. we were ending the program on time but it was important to move mr. trump before the previous speaker finished in order to have him in the box when eric began to speak. that was the motivation. >> a lot of the news had to do with melania's speech and the plagiarism charges. do you feel you have effectively communicated? >> absolutely. the speeches have all been well received. notwithstanding some of the sidebar coverage you all have provided, the main messages of the failures of the obama clinton administration. the need to have new leadership.

a change versus the establishment and the broader message of who donald trump really is which will be culminating tonight with the program. i think you will see next week that the polls will show that the convention was successful. wasou said earlier it absurd to suggest melania's beach was plagiarized. a writer came out and said they had lifted from michelle obama. how do those statements fit together? >> thank you for asking. none of us knew she was even involved in the process. monday night when the issue was raised, i asked melania trump what the story was about. she insisted and i believe her that these were her words. the speechwriters who have been involved in the speech that i was aware of said they had not

lifted anything either. those were the only people i knew were in the process when the first lady to be tells me she didn't do it and the speechwriters tell me they didn't do it. forward weme immediately put forward the statement. thank you very much. that was the rnc briefing happening now in cleveland with the campaign manager for donald trump taking questions. he said earlier in response to a reporter that senator ted cruz violated an earlier pledge that he took. senator cruz is saying this morning he told donald trump there would be no endorsement last night. that last question was about melania trump's speech. the chicago tribune has this this morning. there's another problem with her speech. the letterhead of the statement,

the trump organization which is to say donald trumps personal business, the statement that came out from the staffer said she has offered her resignation -- it is from trump's personal business. herself as an employee of the trump organization, not the campaign. if trump used corporate resources to write a political speech that could be illegal. on the face of it this looks like a corporate violation explained general counsel for the campaign legal center. that is a violation of federal law. he notes that the campaign has regularly used corporate staff for the campaign but have properly accounted for that use by paying the staff from the campaign. more of your calls coming up.

>> articles from this morning's paper we want to share with our viewers. usa today had an interview with bob dole. he turns 93 tomorrow. nomineest republican seem significantly dismayed by donald trump as standardbearer that they have not even shown up. sittingdole was happily with the kansas delegation on the convention floor tuesday night after the states roll call officially nominated trump. he endorses him with an enthusiasm rare among republicans. i think trump is going to make a great president. there's just a lot of people who are angry for some reason. government, congress. maybe something in your own state. they have all kind of rallied around trump.

you will hear from peter teal today. he was an early investor in paypal asnd cofounded well. he takes the stage just before donald trump at the republican convention. he will be the most prominent public face of a species so endangered it might as well be called extinct -- the silicon valley trump supported. no one knows what he will say but in the tech industry his appearance at the convention greeted more attention than excitement. that's in the new york times this morning. oklahoma, aia in republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i would just like to say that what terrifies me as an american the most is the damage that

hillary clinton has done to this country with her e-mail scandals. the fbi came out and said that in their investigation they found that she did receive classified information over private e-mail server and found that there were several thousand e-mail to lead it. my concern is the ones that were .eleted how do you not know that there wasn't classified information in the ones that were deleted? and they have said that her e-mail server was hacked. i remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. i can tell you where i was at, what i was doing, as most people can. i cannot stand for someone to have that bad of a judgment.

we could have 9/11 happen all over again due to her recklessness. people need to really think about that. host: ok, victoria. donald, a democrat. caller: good morning, c-span. i have to commend ted cruz for standing up to his convictions. telling his party to stand together but he didn't endorse trump because he sees that trump is a loose cannon. material andsident of the people that ran against him that are not coming out to support him.

standing up for the convictions. this man is a lunatic and the people he has fooled into supporting him -- i just feel sorry. for those people. host: another story about peter thiel's speech tonight. his first gop convention. first gopl be the convention speaker to announce that he is proud to be gay. caller: my sincerest apologies for the last time i called. i mistakenly called you gretchen. still -- if you are in florida and you are an independent your essentially disenfranchised -- you are essentially disenfranchised. i hope there will be a coherent outlining of policies.

even immigration. it's a big issue right now. what has just been bombast -- it has just been bombast at this point. hopefully between now and tomorrow we will have a clearer picture. thank you so much. host: connie is in oregon. republican. caller: hello. good morning. thank you for c-span. i think you are doing a wonderful job covering this convention. i just want to make it very short. i am totally disgusted with what ted cruz is doing. speaking to delegates. i think he is so low class. he has absolutely abandoned his pledge. and i hope he will never make it

in 2020. he is so narcissistic. i am disgusted with him. and john kasich. never coming on to be graceful enough -- these two have no grace whatsoever. that's all i want to say. go, doonnie, before you you think donald trump has any responsibility for this rift? should he apologized for what he said to ted cruz and john kasich during the primary? caller: no. no. there has been no man that stood on the stage and knocked out 17 or 16 other people. that's exactly what you have to do to win. donald trump is a winner. vision -- he has a vision that no one else really has and i think he is a most

graceful person to let ted cruz on the stage at all. host: ok. a previous caller brought up the electoral college. when you cast your vote for president you are actually voting for a group of people known as electors. they are part of the electoral college. it serves as a compromise between election of the president by a vote in congress and election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens. the process begins when political parties select the people who will serve as electors. they meet to vote for president and congress counts the votes. there are a total of 538. more than 270 are needed to win. each states number of electors is equal to the number of u.s. senators plus the number of representatives. when the candidate receives the majority of votes he or she

receives all of the state's electoral votes. nebraska and maine are the only two states that use the congressional district method. it is possible for a candidate to receive the majority of the popular vote but not of the electoral college and lose the presidential election. atlanta, georgia. democrat. good morning to you. khadija. you are on the air. caller: i have a couple things i because theg election has really come down to the lesser of two evils. when fact checkers check the statements that donald trump makes, over 70% of what he says is untrue. when you look up information as far as his business practices, just short of being a scoundrel. so how is that going to benefit the country?

nobody is talking about that. everything is about hillary and what she hasn't done. nobody is talking about the deficit that this country was in when obama took over. nobody is talking about the stock market has bottomed out and housing and all of the things that were going on. they are saying it like nothing has improved over the last eight years and that's not true. what i have been looking to hear is something of some substance to this is what i plan on doing and this is how -- he's our savior. someone said something about hail mary. how is that possible? host: in connecticut, independent. what do you think this morning? caller: it's very exciting that it is so hard to get through

because it means that people are participating. so that's exciting. i also wanted to mention the fact that very early on this week the republican party chose to play the song the thin white duke on the floor. wiet is a david bo character where he talks about aryan puritanism and the fascist party and adolf hitler. i'm wondering what you think about that. host: what do you think about it? caller: i think the republicans have always been better at designing their conventions than the democrats. i don't think anything is without a choice. i think when they choose to play that song it sends a message. host: leonard in middletown, pennsylvania. you are on the air. caller: yes. it's on the immigration.

i feel like they should let these people in under certain conditions. first of all they should have a visa. and they should have a sponsor that financially capable of taking care of them. let's see what else. yeah. and they have to have a physical. make sure they don't have any communicable diseases when they came in. and another thing is -- host: all right, sandra. democratic caller. good morning to you. we are continuing here on the washington journal getting your phone calls ahead of tonight's primetime coverage. what do you make of what the republicans have said here so far in cleveland? caller: i really don't like some of this hate that is going on. democrat or republican.

i saw something on the tv i don't think anybody has seen on the convention floor. why is it all right for the people they are supporting -- that are supporting donald trump to hit people at this convention? i saw them harass this lady and i didn't like it. why did they do that? why did they put their flag in that lady's face? she was carrying a sign that said "no heat aate and no racism." host: in virginia. good morning. caller: i just want to share one thing. nobody seems to understand that donald trump -- and i'm speaking as an african american -- donald trump did something that was virtually almost impossible and definitely unheard of. has gotten tohe this point in history in a presidential campaign when nobody took him seriously from the beginning, when he said he

was going to run they all left aughed at him. they put 16 other candidates up against him and he managed to knock them all down. i think it's absolutely fantastic -- don't get me wrong. i'm an african-american. i'm not voting for donald trump. but i'm not voting for hillary clinton either. because of what she has done. but i think that what donald trump has done is absolutely fantastic. to come is a non-politician in this country. this is what the constitution in america is really all about. the common man. and the last man i know that did that was not a non-politician was jimmy carter. thank you. host: take a look at the drudge report's banner page with a picture of donald trump. night of his life.

grace, republican. hi there. hi.ler: host: grace, i have to let you go and move on. lincoln, nebraska. democrat. you have to turn off your tv and listen to your phone. are you ready to go? caller: i'm ready. it's good to have c-span back. you just look better. you are just prettier. i had to say that. this is the most uninspiring bunch. these republicans. they complain about the debt and all these negative things. george bush and condoleezza rice and cheney cooked up -- i would love to see the e-mails on that. they are putting tony blair

up. where did this information come from? why can't we do that? the republican party, this whole thing with donald trump and make america great again -- that is a dog whistle. i'm a white guy. i'm 58 years old. it's a dog whistle. it's make america white again. if you can't see that in everything he says -- he has absolutely no love for humanity. he is going to turn his presidency into a moneymaking scheme if he wins. host: more of your calls coming up. we will talk with laura bischoff staff writer for the dayton daily news. we will look ahead to this evening's convention. first, more from washington. >> ted cruz. his breakfast with the texas

delegation is still making a lot of headlines and news. he sent out a tweet this morning that says let's make the case for freedom and wins in november. here's a little video that senator cruz sent out. >> you want to know how we win? we will win if the dominant message to voters is freedom. that this is about your life and your kids. this is how you win an election. [applause] >> ken jacobs is a correspondent with the guardian -- ben jacobs is a correspondent with the garden. he sent out a video of two texas delegates. >> i hope you did the same thing. i hope you have some character in your family. it's about character and integrity. say nothingn't nice, keep your mouth shut. >> i was being nice.

>> you are calling me a coward, sir. >> you are a coward. >> tonight is donald trump's acceptance speech. the new york times has this piece. bigd pressure on trump's night. the political firestorm over his wife's speech which borrowed passages from michelle obama's speech raise the stakes exponentially on mr. trump's speech. it cannot just be his best ever, it also has to be bulletproof. the board spread throughout his campaign that any language even loosely inspired by speeches, essays, books or twitter posts had to be either rewritten or attributed. his chief speechwriter reassured colleagues that the acceptance speech was wholly original.

he also told campaign aides that he had looked closely at passages that mr. trump had ontributed handwritten unlined white pages and was confident they contained no problems. even so, one of the staff members downloaded plagiarism detection software and ran a draft of the speech through the program. no red flags came up. the lead story in usa today is also on mr. trump's speech tonight. or read? he is urged to do both tonight. will he stick to a prepared text or a teleprompter? or will he go with what got him here and wing it?

democrats facing a nerve-racking conflict between his tenants to rouse his base and his need to convert his skeptics by reading. republicans urged their nominee to be scripted yet spontaneous. a mixture is best, dale of illinois said. he is going to have to strike a balance between being donald trump and reassuring those on the fence that he understands the issues. if a teleprompter is what he needs to stay focused on that he has to use it. let's turn our attention to donald trump speech tonight with laura bischoff, staff

writer for the dayton daily news. peter was just talking about the ift thatry and the r happened last night. there is also a rift governor john kasich. attemptld donald trump to bring in the ohio delegation tonight? guest: the ohio delegation is solidly behind john kasich. -- ohio is a winner take all state so he got all 66 delegates. they cast their votes for kasich. they are all in for kasich. a lot of the delegates were telling us this week that they are unhappy that trump and his team continue to bash the governor. fortier this week paul mana

said the governor not endorsing trump was a dumb mistake. continued withs the ohio republican party chairman saying that people make mistakes, even really stupid ones but they can recover. kind of opening the door to having the trump people make an overture at least to play nice. kasich has very little use for donald trump. he doesn't like his message, he doesn't like his method. it is kind of antithetical to the campaign that kasich ran. use the ohio republican party does have for donald trump is if the top of the ticket is weak it could drag down the rest of the ticket. that would include incumbent u.s. senator rob portman of cincinnati. he is in a tough reelection fight against former governor ted strickland, a former governor from southeast ohio.

they are really concerned and want to make sure they hold that seat. trump were tod reach out tonight in his speech to governor kasich and senator ted cruz would that help? guest: i don't know about ted cruz but i don't think it's going to help for kasich. kasich says donald trump needs to have a road to damascus type moment. he has to completely changes method and how he is approaching the campaign. host: are republicans in the state of ohio divided? guest: i think they are. kasich got 47% of the primary votes and trump came in second. the voting electorate is divided. the establishment republicans are solidly behind the establishment republicans.

host: what does that mean for november? ultimateio is the swing state. it is also a bellwether. no republican has ever won the white house without taking ohio. it is crucial. it remains crucial. gamble is if trump and kasich do not meant sensitive the risk for trump is that the establishment all setans, the party on the sideline and that will hurt in a close election. host: let's get to calls. a democrat in culver city, california. concerned thatt the republicans are going to keep going on with this bashing.

you had so many calls today of republicans bashing hillary. let me tell you about hillary. if hillary was guilty of everything republicans think she did even if she was guilty, she would have more integrity than all of the republicans combined. republicans are like teenagers. when they move their mouths -- republicans never tell the truth. -- put thingsll in a frame that is not true to aggrandize themselves. they just lift themselves up to actually what they are after is power. be careful has to because what the republicans ,lan to do if they get in power they are going to change the

constitution just like they did in michigan. there are going to change the constitution so they can keep themselves in power forever. host: ok, a democrat in california. guest: apparently he does not like the republicans. i did not hear a question there. host: i was wondering how hillary clinton is doing in ohio. guest: there's a lot of offices . headquarters in columbus. maybe a couple weeks ago. .hey got a huge space there were dozens of young doinggn workers busily what they do. she is ramped up and ready to go. host: how does that compare to donald trump? guest: donald trump's state director is a longtime republican operative very

well-respected in ohio. he recently came on board. the former chairman of the montgomery county republican party in dayton has been on the ground for quite a while. otherwise it has been very quiet. not a lot of infrastructure. of goes to the thinking that he really needs help from the ohio republican party. one of them told me yesterday they have already started to reach out to the county chairs. they have reached out to a lot of the county chairs. maybe if they have to sidestep the republican party in team kasich they can go to the counties. host: what kind of infrastructure does governor kasich have? guest: he's got a long history in ohio. he served in congress for 18 years from a district in the columbus area. he has always kept his political team all together.

when he was in the private sector during his lehman brothers years. he has been governor since -- his run started in 2010. he has a big team and very high approval ratings. he is at like 60% approval rating overall and 80% with republicans. host: would it be normal for the governor to hand over his infrastructure to the nominee? guest: well sure. this is a very abnormal campaign year. the fact that you have speech is being given on the floor resulting in boos and jeers. you have people standing up on the floor who are not endorsing the nominee. there's empty seats. i was on the floor last night when governor pence was giving his address. i would say half the seats in the ohio delegation were empty. and people were sitting down. they were not jumping up and surely.

host: why? guest: they are just not thrilled with the trump ticket. georgia, ain republican. good morning. caller: good morning. this is actually my first time voting. this is my first time actually watching the rnc. i have been very very proud of the republican party and how they have conducted themselves the past two nights. hopefully it will be the same tonight for trump's acceptance speech. i have to say i am kind of disappointed in how kasich and ted cruz have conducted themselves considering that kasich isn't even at the rnc. --eel like to be able to get how we really need ohio to win this election -- i really feel that kasich needs to push his

differences aside like house speaker of the house paul ryan has put his differences aside donald trump and has finally endorsed him to unify the party. i think it's time for john kasich to be a leader and be part of this movement that is happening here on the trump ticket so we can get our road to the white house. host: ok. laura bischoff. guest: i just have to say in covering john kasich over the last six or eight years i have found him to be somebody who does what he wants to do and what he believes is the right , for ohio,his career for his policies. he is not one to just buckle under because it's time. he decided it was a good idea to expand medicaid in ohio and he went against his own, the

butslature he kind of ran, he believed it was the right thing to do to help 400,000 low income ohioans to get medicaid. ves his owncarbs hi path. i don't think he's just going to endorse. macy is going to be disappointed. i don't see it happening. host: there has been reporting that donald trump's team approached john kasich's team with a most powerful vp offer. what has the kasich camp said to you? guest: that report is interesting. i have talked to some political scienctists yesterday. i think that was more of a feeler. would you like to be considered? an overture to make it on the shortlist. pickh would be a great vp

for trump. he has executive experience. experience at the state and federal level. he has private sector experience. he is well-liked in a swing state. whether or not he was like the automatic, this is your job you want it offer ever came up i am a little suspicious. host: george in north carolina. republican. caller: good morning. i have been listening to all of this and i have been amazed but nobody seems to talk about the constitution. one of the things that i really that he hasrump is actually picked up on things that ted cruz was trying to do. i was previously rooting for ted cruz but i guess the rest of the country didn't want somebody who memorized the constitution.

heaven forbid we actually follow the damn thing. i think that trump will be closest. i have been listening to him every night. what i'm hearing is that he is the closest guy to the constitution. hillary clinton will destroy the constitution. she has already pledged to rewrite the damn thing. we can't afford to have that kind of person in the white house. host: barbara in texas. republican. i was just curious. hosti don't see anybody who coud have watched those heroes that were on stage last night and that poor crying mother -- i don't see how anybody can watch that and still bring themselves to vote for someone like hillary clinton who refused to send them any help. that's just my point about it.

host: ok barbara. laura bischoff, you have been on the floor getting a feel for what it's like to hear those speeches. it's not having an impact on the ohio delegation to be in that room with fellow republicans and hear the rallying cry? guest: certainly personal stories of hardship and tragedy resonate. anybody who says things against hillary clinton on the floor, that's a big applause line. this is a hugely partisan crowd. i just don't think -- they are not that enthused about trump. the ohio delegation anyway. guest: martha, alabama. republican. caller: good morning. i'm so glad to get to tell you that i am so thankful that we have donald trump.

he is the best thing that has happened to us since ronald reagan. and i'm telling you. he is going to make our country so great. host: all right martha. dave in arkansas. independent. caller: actually that is arizona. i am an independent voter. it's a given that we are not going to have an independent party president. so it's very important for us to check the platform. which no one seems to be doing. i get in these arguments with people who refuse to look at the websites of these candidates. trump has a new and exciting platform and hillary clinton delivers exactly the same platform that has been presented for decades from the democrats.

no one seems to want to actually look into the facts. host: all right dave. if people are interested they can actually watch the democrats and republicans on c-span. because we covered their platform committee hearings, hours and hours of work that did to putes together the principles that will guide them through the convention and the next four years. that works for the republicans done here in cleveland. it has been a busy couple of weeks for the city of cleveland. guest: oh yeah. cleveland looks fantastic. i was here on thursday. there were guys out still planting flowers along the walkway to the convention center. they have really rolled out the red carpet. the city looks really good. the new public square park where a lot of the protests are

happening is stunning compared to what i recall it being. host: what did the city look like before? talk about the effort to get it ready for the convention. guest: for one thing, the cleveland cavaliers, nba champions, you might recall, they were just playing not that long ago. they had to do a huge turnaround to prepare it for the convention. and public square underwent tens of millions of dollars in refurbishment. it used to be basically like a big traffic circle. now it is a public meeting space with a fountain, grassy area. it is just stunning. host: ahead of tonight's final night in cleveland, let me tell you about what went into making q look the way it does right now. it holds 836 lights.

1800 signs were added. that large screen you see behind the speakers is the highest resolution available. ande are 30 media suites three locker rooms were changed into office space. 125,000 balloons and 1000 pounds of confetti will drop tonight. debbie in virginia, democrat. hi debbie. go ahead. caller: i had given my statement before but i will go ahead and do it now. i am not a democrat. i am a republican. but this is the only line i could get through. anyway. i wanted to have a little statement about kasich and then a question but i will go real fast. my mother in law is from ohio and my husband. she was in a nursing home. it was abysmal.

we called governor kasich office and i was pleading with him to help. i wanted to get him moved to kentucky where my sister-in-law was. they were so rude to me. nasty. and when the crisis came of her dying they hung up on me. i told them and called back and i asked them specifically, was governor kasich aware of this'? "yes ma'am." hung up on me again. kasich should not be an island of his own. ohio is hooked up to the rest of the 50 states. for him to not come to that convention in his own state is wrong. host: ok. laura bischoff, go ahead. guest: first off, he is at the convention. he's just not making speeches on the floor. he had a major event at the rock 'n roll hall of fame. he invited his supporters from

across the country and had a reception. he spoke to the u.s. hispanic chamber of commerce. the michigan delegation. round a couple other delegations. he spoke to the national republican institute. he spoke to the ohio delegation this morning introducing the lieutenant governor. he's here. he's just not going to -- he's just not going on the floor. republicans say, you can have a speaking spot if you want it? guest: i think it came with the hitch that you have to endorse us. host: indiana, independent. hi there. caller: my question is what happened with the republicans pledge saying they were going to support the one that is nominated? the ohio governor promised that to everyone. he lied to all of us.

what is his response to that, laura bischoff? guest: i'm not sure that he signed a pledge but he said during the debates that he would support the eventual nominee. all along the republicans were saying, it's not going to be donald trump. now it's donald trump. i think it's kind of like going out with somebody, getting engaged, thinking it's going to be ok, but then as you get to know them you find out there are some flaws that you just can't live with and you want to break up. i think that is kind of what's happened here. host: dealbreaker. guest: dealbreaker. host: connie on the independent line. caller: hi. i am calling because i am so upset at the fact that we have donald trump, who has no clue what government is about.

think we have blue-collar uneducated people that are running to him because we had a loss when george bush was in. when obama first came in housing went. i lost thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. host: we are running short on time. let me turn to laura bischoff and ask about the economy and how important that is to ohio voters. if donald trump could say something about creating jobs that might sway them. guest: the economy has been improving. but it has been a sluggish recovery. people are kind of tired of stagnant wages. things could definitely be

better. i think a lot of people view donald trump -- he has been talking about how he is going to be the dealmaker, the guy who makes things happen. it will be interesting to see if we ever hear any more details about what his economic plan is. how is he going to generate job growth? host: we will be watching along with you tonight. laura bischoff, thank you very much. that does it for today's washington journal. our final day here in cleveland. thank you for calling in. c-span's coverage does not end. tune in at 6:00 p.m. eastern for more of your phone calls on the final night. enjoy your day. thanks again. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

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