the same machine. it will be formatted the way i have. ivanka: can i see how you format it? so that we can compare it right now? >> if you give me five minutes, i can patch it. a vodka trump will introduce her father tonight at the atlantic forum -- yve vanka trump will introduce her father tonight at the arena. you so much. as we close out, let's go down the aisle real quick. if you think -- many of us are going to be in philadelphia next week and see what the dnc does. if you had one blind spot in either of the parties you thought could be fixed, needed to be fixed, or moving the politically,ething

what was that one thing be? >> this is such a tough question. this really is not the most basic level involvement. running for office is not enough. you need to get out in your community, the active, engaged, and present. getting more people to attend their council meetings, the trustee meetings come and get people interested in their community, that will make the largest difference for both parties. asked, sowant to be we need to make a conscious effort to bring them to the table and engage people. >> barbara yak of >> when women -- barbara? >> when women run, women win. no lip service. >> i would like abortion to cease to be an issue, a litmus test, on either side of the aisle and just put it to bed. [applause] >> with that fascinating roster

of solutions, i want to thank kathleen parker, barbara parker, thank you so much. >> thank you all. >> another round with my friend alex wagner. it is not done yet. remember, if you give up your someone will take it. >> our last conversation is with two women who are already in the halls of power. fromublican candidate florida fifth district. she grew up in jacksonville, challenges, despite she became an entrepreneur and put childcare establishment in the low income areas of her stay. she is making a second one for office. christina hagan is 27 years old. she is -- while working in a restaurant and in her family plumbing business, she worked to pay off student loans.

and back with us, alex wagner, my colleague, who leaves the conversation -- who leads the conversation. seats here ifome you want to come up. i find it helpful to look at the worst-case scenario. wrap your arms around it and say ok i can manage that -- and say, ok, i can manage that. fundamental aspect for running for office is really daunting for women. you have both run for office. share with us your worst story about fundraising, the most awkward moment and how you dealt with that and kept on trucking. >> sure. probably the worst moment of fundraising came from me -- i was knocking on doors, and this young man entered and came out and he had guns on him, and i was like -- whoa.

being the kind of person i am, i myked at him and said, hmm, husband's guns are bigger than yours. and he has a whole law enforcement team willing to back him up. he thought it was so funny, he said you know what, i do not know who you are, but i am going to give you a donation because that was so funny. armed threat. and he did. [laughter] i did not -- people around the country were angry. when i first ran for congress -- i am a black conservative republican, and this is not always something people talk about openly within my own race. someone took one of my signs and painted my face white, and it

gained a lot of national attention. people read my story and were so mad and outraged, they said we are going to do something to help this young lady. because i was a black conservative my entire life and i am used to things like this. it should not happen but it does . people started sending money in. we have one of the three campaigns in the country where 97% of our funds -- we raised just over $170,000 with all small donations. 75% of our donations came from women across the country. >> i'm going to make one housekeeping announcement. folks in the back, please enjoy yourself but keep your volume down if we can. -- if you can. it is a little noisy up here. when you had signs with your face, painted in white face, that is really intense. but it sounds like money actually kind of made it better. >> it did.

that, it started the conversation and a dialogue about why i was in lack conservative, and i get to -- why i was a black conservative. i get to share, and it opened up more doors for me. >> talk about your worst fundraising experience. >> i was running my first campaign when i was 19, and i was told with a poly sigh project that i could not be a christian and be in politics. i said i was writing for a state legislature. when i was sick, working three jobs, going to school, i was reaching over the ceo of firstenergy, and someone was talking with her hands and knocked a dish full of sun-dried tomato-based oil on this gentleman's coat. the next week, his salary increased more than i will make in my entire lifetime, and i thought this man will never contribute to my campaign. then i really prayed about the

situation, reinvested in my message, and i went to see him, and he wrote me a $5,000 check. >> unpack that. you went from the sun-dried tomato instance, circled your own wagons, and prayed on it. why not just give up at that point? >> we all face embarrassing moments regardless of our walk of life. there is a moment that can be say il where you will can only pray to god right now. that is where i felt my campaign time and time again when the party failed me, when they were spending $70,000 against me in my first nonincumbent open seat primary. i knew i was investing in the values of my party, in my faith, and in what i believe in. i investing not in the party as a whole, i am investing in people. god really gave me direction and

reminded me of that. three years later, the speaker of the house up putting to be the youngest female appointed in the history of the state. >> what can we done to encourage women to run for office in election years? what needs to be done in the off years? this is kind of like a harvest. you have to sow the seeds of success. how are women not being talked to or encouraged? when not focused on elections. >> one of the biggest mistakes we make is to wait until they turn 18 or older. introduce people on both sides of the aisle to people where they can actually put a face to an elective office at the local, state, and national level. invite them to come to meetings, whether it is city council or whatever. townhall. one of the things i like to do his mentor young men and women, especially people of color, to

introduce them to the political arena. i was fortunate because my raised me, got us involved in a political campaign. i did not know who a democrat or a republican was, but he said you have an obligation to learn everything you can about your country. i happen to have fallen in love with it. of my seven sisters and brothers, i was the only one who is passionate about it. for my entire life, i was doing things that were politically active. i father was a business owner as well. so i love business and politics equally. i was better at helping people attain their goals of becoming an elected official. it was not until 2013 when i finished working for the lieutenant governor of florida that i was driving down the road one day and the lord said you need to run for congress. and i had a little conversation, "who, lord? who needs to run for congress?"

i called my husband right away and the holies. -- and the holy spirit talk to me about running for office. he said you should not say god told you to run. i was like, well, i truly believe that. i like to journal my quiet times and devotion, and why god showed me is over the last 30 years of my life, he prepared me. when i was that little girl born , depending ons government commodities to take care of me. when he played stepfather in my life and made a difference and we were able to move out of the projects, where my next-door neighbors were doctors and things were the foundation, and every experience i had, even to being able to work for the first black governor, lieutenant governor of the state of florida, and going on to work with governor scott lord? going, "really,

me?" >> i also think that anybody we've heard speak for two minutes would think, yes, you are ready for public office. you know, there are books like "lean in," where sheryl sandberg is like, women subscribe to having to be mentors. she suggests that we throw that out the window. where were you? faithful,sly are very but the question of mentorship, how critical is that? >> i would say it is vital, that in a lot of ways we should be mentors and mentoring others. christ discipled with people and train people to spread a message. -- and trained people to spread a message. -- my plasterold

is here, so i will say he is the catalyst. the truth be told -- my pastor is here, so i will say he is the catalyst. case,uth be told, in our our district has been massively transformed. $750,000rom spending to not even spending $1000 in the general campaign. that can be attributed to meeting people where they are, loving them, serving them, going door to door in the off-season and saying i am here to serve you versus you go to -- >> you go door to door in the off-season? >> yes. you go with the opportunities to lift somebody up. that will pay dividends better than getting a big check or sending out mailers. the dynamiced drastically in my district. the more you do to connect all year round, people will value it

and support you regardless of whether they agree with your political affiliation. they connect with you. i'm a conservative christian legislator. >> we have time for a question from the audience. >> it cannot be over already. >> i know. who do we blame for that? i blame myself. dr. emily with "newsweek." i am curious if you as women running for office are concerned about the fact we are seeing in the polls what could be a historic gender gap in november between hillary clinton and donald trump, and whether you are worried as republican women that races.ect >> i can speak to this first. my perspective is that we are the 24% of women currently elected to elective office. we have had less than 1.5% of governors be females in the history of the nation. we have a lot of work to do.

but gender does not define your capacity to do the job. we are all made in the image of christ, and from my perspective that means anything is a couple .hovel -- is accomplishable what is wrong with america? only 27% of women in office are females. that is higher than the global trend. what we do is continue to invest in the value of young women in the school system, mentor them, provide apprenticeship and mentorship activities, and guide them. there is tremendous value in women coming to the office to experience our government. when you do that, that is what empowers women. every chance we get to mentor a young woman, we should be doing that. the one thats like existed here yesterday at the rnc, with an opportunity to get them and son of strong female leaders.

that is how we change the tide. i do not think the numbers really matter. it matters that we get the right people at the job and we build confidence in men and women to do with their passionate about. i am equally passionate about raising my daughter as i am to ensuring policy in the state of ohio. -- womenl fall what will fall with what god has for them. >> right now we have over 23 million women in this country who are not registered to vote. in florida we have about one million not registered to vote. i service the campaigns here for the florida campaign federation for republican women. i do that because i feel that we have to have women directly involved. i share my story. i talk about why my vote is so important. i have met three or four women

in the last week who are in their 40's who have never registered to vote because they feel like their votes do not count. the more we have, the more opportunities we have to vote other women into office. one of the things that i think is really important is that you share your stories with these young ladies as you meet them. maybe my story is a little bit different. >> i think it is. >> i think about voting rights. i shared a story -- my husband's father, grandfather, and great-grandfather was thomas sterling delaney. he was the first black voters to 1885.er in his son served the commission, and his children and his wife were slaves. he was not. i talk about the rich heritage of the delaney family.

father -- my great-grandfather was serving in -- i tell the story about how african-americans -- what the republican party did that helped us to get into position that we could have never gotten to based on the other party ideology at that time. so i think as we share our stories especially with young people and we encourage each other, we say you can be anything you want to be. no one can hold you down but you. when it comes to fear, sometimes i am scared but i always face it. it is like wheat that appears to be a flower. move forward and go in the direction that god has me going in. thank you all for your time. thanks for coming. it was great to see you.

>> thank you. i want to thank running stars altogether. thank you for making this gathering possible. have a wonderful afternoon. enjoyed each other and enjoy what is left of the food and enjoy the rest of the convention. thank you so much for coming. announcer: today's discussion at the atlantic hearing, one of a number of events we are covering in and around the convention. take a look at c-span.org to see this and all of our coverage, including the speeches. so far this week, what the schedule is ahead and more.

we were showing you side-by-side a look at the quicken loans arena as donald trump arrives, trump, daughter, ivanka there to do sound check. easily -- women eagerly anticipate ivanka trump's speech. our program starts at 5:30 eastern, our live coverage of speeches begins at 7:20 tonight. ivanka trump will introduce her father tonight. here on c-span, available on the c-span radio app as well. download it for free. and also, as we mentioned, at c-span.org. we are keeping our eye on events around the convention center, protests there yesterday, saying despite many protests, law enforcement has kept the rnc safe. share a lookt to

at the washington post today. the police chief, cleveland police chief is ready to roll and keeping his cool. cleveland52-year-old police chief. he showed up this morning wearing bike shorts. he normally wears a more formal uniform. but on this day he wore black shorts. he carried a water bottle and was going to be brutally hot. protests likely once again to break out over downtown cleveland. we go live outside the quicken loans arena.

>> i will do a little dance for you. [laughter] thank you.

announcer: a look at the public square in this hour. a hot day in cleveland, in the middle 90's. we will bring you some more sight and sound later on on our coverage of c-span.

our convention coverage begins at 5:30, with speeches starting at 7:20 eastern. we have covered a number of delegation breakfasts over the last four days. the new york delegation gathering. we will hear from rudy giuliani and also from representative peter king.

>> we have a great program today, but we ought to get started as soon as possible. i served as a lieutenant going through airborne training. one of the things the sergeants love to do after we made mistakes during that training was, "drop for 10, sir." people in the army understand that. i have said this, that donald trump is really what he has brought into our process. the people who make this country work, is the sergeants who make the army work. any lieutenant until you that. isn't that right, joe? yeah. [applause] . for the pledge of allegiance, we have sergeant nick becker. inserved two tours, one is

afghanistan, the other in iraq. sergeant? >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [applause] invocation.or the please come to the stage. >> you may have seen it. you know, it is a dangerous thing to give a mi microphone

to a baptist preacher, saying you have to pray for it but in all seriousness, i want to share briefly -- i grew up in washington, d.c., came to new york in the early 1980's to play for the new york jets, and fell in love -- [applause] and fell in love with new york city. it has been a love affair that i have never been able to shake, and i know that god has indeed called me to new york city. the call to politics is the same call, to love the city. you have to love the place to which god has called you. god has called us to this great nation. responsibilityd to pass on to the next generation this nation better than it is. opinion, in in my

my humble opinion, we are going -- we are doing that. we are doing the best that we can. i have seen the absolute best of my party. this is my party, not your party. this is my party. that's right, that's right. we always pass by inclusion of african-americans in the republican party. you got it wrong. this party was started by us! this party is for us! hello! hello! [applause] i included you. i welcome you into my party!

the news media -- they just do not know what to do. just a second, i am certainly going to pray for the family and the trump family and the peace that god would bring about. there were so many emotions last night. i want to say this lastly before i pray -- i am running to be the next mayor of the city of new york because -- because i love the city. i get the city. i love the city. i am passionately supporting donald trump because i believe this man loves this nation. i believe he loves it, he loves it with a passion, and i believe

that he is the kind of leader that we need to lead our nation into our future and i believe that god has equipped me and skilled me with the life skills and reputation to lead our city into the next place where we need to go. thank you.aid, with that said, shall we pray. father, it is a pleasure to youess you and address publicly and personally. we thank you you have provided the resources to do that through faith that you have given us in your son. father, we thank you for this gathering, this august gathering of new yorkers, of great citizens who are doing everything that we can do to

move forward this great state of new york and this great nation you have given to us. father, we confess there have been times when we have failed you, where we have not lived up to the calling you have placed on our life. there are times in which we have .hirked our duties but, father, we thank you for these reminders and these gatherings where we can be inspired once again, when we can be ignited once again. father, today, lord, i pray for me and my anger toward mr. ted cruz, a fellow believer and father. -- i prayt you ask me that you help me, and help him with his dysfunction and all the things he has to do with. father, please look upon the trump family in a special way.

place a hedge of protection around them. place, lord god, your hand on them, and give them good people around them. or not theaysayers typical political hack. father, would you raise up for them a generation of forward-thinking people? and, lord, would you help us to take new york state and this nation forward in the direction you have us to go. father, please save us from the doomsday scenarios that we know would come should the outcome be differently than what we hope it will be. for this morning post gathering, we thank you to all the speakers who would come. particularly we thank you for our mayor, the nation's mayor. -- we thank you for all of the

blessings you have provided for us. we pray that this last day of ,his gathering, this conference lord god, would be the most special day. for it all. we pray in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. amen. [applause] thank you very much, mike. that was terrific. speaker,uce our next this is a man literally coming up to introduce a man who needs no introduction. he has led the team that has made this convention work for "the new york delegation -- for the new york delegation. show your appreciation for him. tony casale.

tony: that's right, the sergeants do run the army. whenever someone begins a new job or joints a new organization, there tends to be the tendency to look around and size of the people that you meet, try to identify who the real leaders of the group are, people you might want to emulate some day. people from whom you can learn something. after you are there for a few years, you start looking at new people coming in. you size them up. who are the potential leaders? who are the people we can trust with the mantle of responsibility going forward? when i joined the assembly in 1979, one of the people i met was a tall, good-looking, articulate guy from suffolk county. he was very friendly, very bright, very articulate, and he took me under his wing and i learned a lot about him -- i

learned a lot from him about policy and politics. a few years later, another very tall, good-looking, articulate guy from suffolk county appeared on the scene, and it did not take me very long to figure out that this guy was going to become a true leader and an advocate for the people of the state of new york. men -- i think you know the story. this is one case where my expectations were far off the individual. in the case where for many of us, the students far exceeded the teachers. john flanagan served 16 years in the state assembly. he was elected in 2002 to the senate. he has continuously over that career advocated for tax relief for people in the state, for budget reform, for equitable funding, for meaningful accountability in education.

effective health care for all, especially women and children. to improve the overall quality of life for the people of our state. it is my honor and privilege to introduce to you a great republican, a dynamic leader, and are good friend, -- and our good friend, senator john flanagan. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. i am humbled. i am humbled because tony has been a good friend and someone forhas been a mentor to me so many years. i had the good fortune of sitting next to him in the new york assembly chamber.

you have the opportunity to learn a lot from people through all walks of life. tony.m very grateful to i want to thank chairman cox for being a gentleman and for being a diplomat, for being an artist -- being an ardent, true republican for his entire life. i want to thank everyone affiliated with the state republican committee in new york. both of you are here today. i -- there were four speakers. i know this. , you hear there four speaker. that is fine because we are going to have the nation's mayor here, and that is going to be fantastic for the new york delegation. but this is an outstanding turnout, and i am going to go through a couple of basic things. we were talking about this. i am a born and bred new yorker, 55 years old, and in 55 years i

did not know whether i was two or three, that i have been a republican all my life. [applause] . sometimes people say, why do you keep saying that? we have to stop apologizing and is around things. we need to stand up and be counted. i will tell you a couple of basic things as a republican, as a public servant, as an elected official, and as a leader in the party. i am a new yorker, a republican. i am proud to be affiliated with everybody in this room. when the time came, we had a whole discussion about who would be endorsing whom for president and whatnot. let's quickly go through that procedure. we had 17 candidates, and one person prevail. he deserves credit, accolades, praise for his efforts.

[applause] i want to talk about new york and new york in the state senate in particular. but i am also going to make this unequivocally clear. i am supporting donald trump for president, and im going to do so with grace, with diplomacy, with passion, with further, and doing it out in new york's dial -- in new york style. when new york -- when new gingrich -- when newt gingrich was talking about winning in the state of new york, he talked about how to get out there and get that election won one-vote at a time. that is what we all need to do. i do want to mention a couple of people who are very important to me. he is sitting right here. we enjoy an incredibly strong relationship. joe? [cheers and applause]

amazing howt, it is much you can learn if you are willing to listen. so i pay great attention to things that the chairman says. in my own county, i am not sure he is here. not probably on, the anderson cooper show, cnn. -- tonycounty camera santino represents the largest town in the state of new york. there is the great chairman of the town, jeff, great to see you here. [applause] it is a relatively small town, somewhere around 140,000 -- around 480,000 people. he does human like work across long island and the state of new york. honorary give an award. there are two ladies i have had a chance to watch this week, and all of you have had the same

opportunity. they are both county sheriff's, and they have been in the front .ow they are loud, forthright, res a conservative. i know she's out there somewhere. suit let me speak at one of her dinners, but she is obviously very passionate on the part of polk county. there you go, girl. when they get up on the floor, they make you want to get up and stand up as republicans. we have some wonderful talent and wonderful people affiliated with our party. i want to talk about the state of new york and the direction where we are and where we are going. i thought this was a nifty thing asear, commonly referred to

an ipad. i only have it for one purpose. i have a quote i want to read. i want to juxtapose who we are versus the democrats in the state of new york. is from the famous novel by ns', a tale of two cities. the best of times, the worst of times. it was the age of wisdom, the age of four was the spirit it was the season of darkness. it was the spring of hope, the winter of despair. the reason i raise that is because i think we are in a crossroads not only in new york but frankly, in the country. let me digress and talk about the national issue for one moment. if you look at the republican platform versus the democratic platform, it is night and day. it is black and white.

it could not be any clearer what our priorities are. in my humble opinion, the primary obligation of the federal government is a strong national defense. there is no one better suited to handle that than donald trump and governor pence. that is on the federal level. in the state of new york, we have in the last few years elected eight new members to the new york state senate. but where we are and why you all are so important is directionally, what kind of society do we want to have? what kind of state do we want to have, and what do we want for our children, our grandchildren, the next generation? leaders or otherwise, how maybe be described? --reat leader from new york yes, give him a round of applause. if you are old really nice to

him, he will wear his red hat again tonight. senator terrence murphy and others. ladies and gentlemen, they are the backbone of the republican party. where we are now -- and the reason i raised that, let's talk about the mayor of the city of new york. he does not share our values. he sees himself as a true progressive, and god love him for doing it. what his priorities are a lot different than the ones i have had on long island. colleagues versus the state of new york, is a whole fundamentally different approach. i will give you an example. you talk about law and order, law enforcement? i am so sick and tired of hearing disparaging comments about people who work in law enforcement.

.o matter what capacity we have had that as a number one priority for years and decades in the new ,ork state senate one example mike decided not to run for reelection. he used to carry a bill for for workerslties who were spat on by inmates. they do not share our priorities. we talk about law and order. we are more concerned about the victims than we are about the criminals. i think that is a proper priority. thing said that, another that seems to get lost in the mix -- the new york state senate

and the new york state a similar republicans, under brian cole's leadership. no one -- no one cares more about education than the senate republicans and the assembly republicans. we have been the protectors, out front in every single way, shape, or form that you can possibly imagine. a staffer, a tax cuts, dealing with things that senator murphy has worked on, like opioid and --oin addiction -- quarterly quality-of-life issues. we have been out for. now we are in a campaign season where we need your help. we need your help in a lot of different ways. i am going to repeat right now, we are at a crossroads. i have been given the external or privilege and opportunity to serve as a leader, and i can guarantee you this. i will be all across the state

every day between now and november 8 because i really believe in who we are and what we are doing, and i really like winning, too. like everybody in this room, i really like winning. so when you are asked about , it flows on this. i want to thank chairman cox again for his leadership, and i want to highlight. we have several different candidates. the good news is, we have eight members who have no opponents this year. so god knows we are going to ask all of them to get out there and help other candidates. in western new york, chris jacobs is running for senate out there. fantastic guy. outstanding reputation, excellent family, great background, county clerk, go-getter, he is going to win. you heard it here today. is going to be the next senator out in new york.

[applause] all of our incumbents are going to be in good, solid shape. we do not have so many things to worry about her and what we do have -- let's talk about westchester county. we have a woman named julie killian -- she's outstanding. i know cameron is here. he has great affection for her. she israel he going to do very well. all of the people i'm speaking about have all had stellar private records. they are now getting into the fray in terms of public service. julie is already an elected official. let you watch -- she is out there, she is inherently likable. that is a key swing state. now you go to long island. we have two very strong candidates on long island. chris mcgrath is running again.

[applause] . each of these people have been successful in their own right. chris is a very hard worker. thatd not prevail in second election. nobody likes that, especially me. all the good people in nassau county, chris is going to do very well. in large part because we will have an excellent turnout. in the other seat, jack is running for congress. he will be the next congressman from that district, as you well know. and we have another candidate -- by the way, i beg your indulgence. im mentioning these people because they are the future of the new york state -- i am mentioning these people because they are the future of the new york state government. belt -- degree black totally cool in and of itself

that she and her husband have had a sterling career as well. as the newing for us york state senate, we have -one, top-level candidates who will be the standard bearers for the party. as you come out and we leave here, again, i will support donald trump, governor pence, everyone of our incumbents, every one of our challengers. ladies and gentlemen, it is time for all of us to continue to be proud as republicans. get out there, win, and it is the old-fashioned way. it is the personal notes, getting somebody on the phone and making sure they are out there on election day so that we can prevail. i am so honored to be with you and amongst you today. i cannot wait for tonight. it is going to be very exciting, as we all know. so let's get out of here, get

back to -- let's make sure on november 8 we prevail with a lot more senate republicans and members of the new york state senate. thank you very much. [applause] >> leader flanagan, thank you for those remarks. by the way, here are your glasses. [laughter] leadership, we are going to win and keep the majority in our state senate. [applause] next speaker -- i want to introduce a man who was the former member of the assembly. supervisor of to his town in monroe county.

chairmanong-standing of one of our best county organizations, monroe county, republican party. he was elected by his peers in the region as vice chair for that region, and then by all the vice chairs all around the state , the first vice chair, and as part of that, i really appreciate his good advice and counsel. o t is chairman bill rieleck of monroe county. >> thank you chairman -- thank you, chairman cox. good morning to the new york delegation. wait a second. i was there last night. good morning, new york! i know you can be loud, and at

the right time, that is for sure. inhave so many great leaders our great chairs in new york and in our republican committees. chairman cox brings so much to the position. thank you so much for all you do. another great leader is congressman peter king. yup. every time i hear him speak, he is so right and spot-on. he was not last night when he -- aboutout cruise, ted cruz, was he? he got it right. what is happening in new york city under the current mayor. mayor, rudy giuliani, left the city with a lower homicide rate, cleaned up times square, and got new york city on the right track. i know we are going to bring it back under republican leadership in the future. i wish you the best.

leaders,lk about great brian cole, the leader of the republican family conference in new york state. i served with him for 11 years. he was a colleague of mine and i supported his venture to become leader because i knew the type of individual he was and he is. he is an outstanding leader. one of those qualities is the fact that he listens to his members, whether it is the newest one or one who had been there many years, they always have brian's ear, and then he will bring it out on the floor. what many of you may not see unless you sit in that chamber is the fact that a lot of the liberal democrat legislation that has been proposed has been tempered due to brian's leadership and speaking out and raising his voice on behalf of solid republican core issues. he doesn't outstanding job each and every day. we should be proud of the conference and that he does an

outstanding job each and every day. he is always going to be my leader, but the fact is, more importantly, i refer to him as a good friend. the leader of the republican conference, new york state, brian cole. >> thank you. wow. say this is probably the largest crowd i've ever spoken to at one period of time. you are an impressive group. but i have to say thank you to .ach and every one of you whether you are an elected official, guest, a committee , all ofcommittee leader you make a difference for us running for the state assembly

over the state senate and all elected officials, whether it is donation of your time, donation of your money. we couldn't be here without each and every one of you. i want to say over and over again, thank you to each and everyone of you and for each and everyone of you being here. it sends a great message about our state, and our state should be very, very proud of this , future president of the united states donald j trump. [applause] i've, too, would like to start off with a quote. this is by samuel adams. it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather, an irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's minds. that quotation is posted outside

my office in albany, and it ,eally reflects our conference the republican conference. i would like to recognize those numbers you are here today, so if you could wonder applause until i get through the list because we've got a lot of folks here. barclay, atwill walter, assemblyman steve and a summary man steve hawley. -- assembly man steve holly. brothers in arms, please join me in giving them a nice round of applause. [applause] in case you didn't know, that ed.for

we also have 2 perspective and we believe going to be 2 of army was members after this fall's election. side,per east please welcome and join me in supporting great lady and assembly woman, rebecca. rebecca. [applause] and also from the 144 the -- 140 fourthct summary district, fine young gentleman who will join our team as well, please join me in welcoming mike noris. [applause] senator flanagan had talked about some of those crazy ideas of dutchor and status

harbor in the status and liquid -- that harbor in the state december. governor mike pence said last night, probably most of you don't know i am, and then he " you don't know who he is, but we feel that way the same time with the republican conference. i believe we are the best kept secret in albany. obviously come of there is such talk with both majorities, which is understandable, and the governor, but the people in the trenches in our house, people really standing up and pointing out flaws in legislation being proposed, who are trying to solve crises out in our state, the assembly republican conference. i want to give you a couple of examples. when the safe act was proposed , even state assembly that would pass from our conference stood up for over

eight hours and debated that bill and its lack of merit and its infringement on our second amendment rights. i could not have been prouder of the group of men and women that stood up on behalf of all of us trying to send a message that didn't get through, obviously, but more importantly, to let them know that someone is going to stand up for our const version -- stand up for our constitution just like donald j. trump. [applause] areas, senator flanagan mentioned education. senator flanagan is right. we do a lot to try to camp down some of the crazy ideas. also, quite frankly, the state senate republicans stop a lot of those crazy ideas from ever becoming law. bills that passed in the assembly don't pass in the senate.

governor cuomo's idea is to give free tuition, college tuition, to inmates. free college tuition for illegal aliens. those bills go nowhere in the state senate. [applause] but some of the things that i am very proud of -- several years ago the governor put in his budget, or i should say took out millionudget, over $95 in support for the developmentally disabled community. it was an outrage. on the debate floor of that bill, we debated decently democrats, who say they are the protectors of the average joe. they are not. politicaltheir own agenda, and when you turned your back on the families that need it most, it is an outright

shameful act. and to our debate and efforts going out into the public afterwards, that funding got restored. [applause] corruption. you probably don't know this, 2010, assembly0, republicans introduced a bill to take away the pensions from those convicted -- public officials convicted of a crime. if that had passed in 2010, there is a few folks who wouldn't be getting pension convicted of crimes in the state, and we will continue the fight to make sure we restore the faith and confidence of all of you throughout the state in elected officials. [applause]

do assembly republican make a difference? cap --assemblyman steve mclaughlin, i think he is our version of donald trump. then we have karen lawlor and a whole bunch of us that stand up and scream at the top of our lungs when we see something wrong. governor cuomo's administration information on public health. it is reprehensible. you are talking about women and children and families and water being contaminated and the state keeping the big secret. steve mclaughlin single-handedly championed this cause, calling for public hearings, calling on the governor to release information. guess what? we're finally going to have public hearings and hopefully

now we are going to get answers for those residents in the surrounding areas. [applause] i've been doing this work now for 16 years in the state assembly. . i own my own business. i've been a local elected official, school board. people ask me, why do you do this? you are in the minority. well, you know, i'm used to , but not outt worked. i could care less if hillary clinton has got more money than donald trump, because he is herg to work her-- outwork and he is going to resonate with the people of this great nation, because they are looking for a leader who is going to stand for something. i can't even comprehend in this

country how someone, because they didn't have an intent to commit a crime, is not held accountable for that crime. in our department of justice -- [applause] so when i tell people why i do this, it is because i really care. john flanagan really cares. all the senators really care. assembly members really care. it is tough work. i know especially when the confidence is down, state government, there are rankings that we are not part of the need to fix. ladies and gentlemen, we are working hard everything related to fix these issues. i couldn't be more proud to serve as members of my conference because we are continually outspent but never outworked. in the last three cycles, the

assembly democrats have spent over $18 million on races. we have tried to keep up with $6 million over the same three cycles. but they never outwork us so we still win races. every time redistricting comes along, with the swipe of a pen they take away 4, 5, 7 seats. again back on our feet just like we will do this fall. because it is important. the values and principles that this party stands for is important. we have members from buffalo to city,sland, including the and we need to add more seats in the city and we will. quite likely, it is going to be a result of help from all of you. and the people back home. i couldn't be more proud of -- to be a new yorker, couldn't be more proud to be a new york state assemblyman, couldn't be more proud to share the work

with the men and women of our conference and state government, because quite frankly, it is a privilege. i can't believe that a guy from 3000,town population standing on the stage in front of all you, right here in the city of cleveland, one of the biggest stages the world will ever seen with our convention, and it just humbles me to be here with you. it is just an amazing feeling to of i am part, a small part trying to help our country get better in our state get better. and i just think it is one of the best moments i will ever relish in, to be here sharing the stage with john flanagan, peter king, rudy giuliani, but most important, sharing a stage with each and every one of you, because that is the energy we get from you that makes us work hard. so thank you from the bottom of

my heart for all your support. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. to introduce our next speaker, i , as to just briefly mention i said at the start, as a young airborne lieutenant i learned very quickly it is the sergeants who run the army. the lawyer who represented sergeant organization in new york city for many, many years, i understand they are the people who run the police department in new york city and made it such an effective organization. the man who is going to come up here to introduce our next

speaker is a former infantry sergeant. is chairmanwho has of one of our greatest counties. a winning chairman and time again, winning local execs, stateny senators, members of the assembly, members of congress, a mainstay of the republican party . a man who over the years, time fortime again, has produced the republican party of new york. he was my predecessor, took the state party through its toughest patakifter george left as governor. that man, you know him very well

. great republican, former sergeant in the infantry. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. know, i -- first of all, i want to thank for the opportunity to introduce .ongressman king i know how difficult it is to put on a national convention breakfast, put it all together, how difficult it is. i really want to recognize chairman ted cox the great job he has done this year to get it

done. [applause] ed.k you, i would also be remiss if i did not mention one of my favorite people in life, who is here with us. i had the privilege of working with him on a number of mayor, rudymerica's giuliani. rudy? [applause] ed, i want to thank you for letting me do this introduction. for 45 years i've been putting up with the bad italian jokes. [laughter] and this is going to give me my opportunity to get back. [applause] i had planned to really take him apart at this breakfast. but my wife won't let me.

and she is here. and she kind of likes him. i don't know why. that is the way it is. years ago i remember peter coming to me and saying that he wanted to serve and i said he would be much better serving as a waiter than -- [laughter] on running for congress. and so he did. and he was successful. ladies and gentlemen, it has to have al pleasure man of his stature in my county working with me on a day-to-day basis. person.uly a wonderful he is a person that has a passion for people. that, my friends, is something that not everybody has. he wants to help people come he enjoys that. that is what he does.

i could talk about the previous offices that he has held, the fact that the is a notre dame -- the fact that he is a notre dame graduate, notre dame law school, as well as undergrad. he is a wonderful person and i'm so proud to be evil to introduce -- i'm so proud to be able to t.roduce congressman peter king. [applause] rep. king: thank you. thank you very much. you mentioned the italian jokes, you made a few irish shots over the years. that drives meff crazy with you guys. the hugging, the kissing -- we

irish guys keep our distance. i want to thank you. rosemary sends her best. and my compassion for putting up with this guy over the years. i want to thank joe for his friendship and support over the years. he has been a great friend. he and i were town councilman together and have been on the same site together and he is a true warrior for what is right and i would say without any provocation i would not be in congress without joe mondello. he in very tough races got foot soldiers out in the streets to campaign for me. i'm not a wealthy guy, joe is not a wealthy guy. we appreciate that. the county committee throughout the state, the party workers, those who donate to the campaign, you are the ones who allow us to serve you and work hard. i thank all of you from the bottom of my heart for

particularly joe mondello for his friendship and support over the years. great american and great chairman and great leader. joe, thank you very much. [applause] cox forhank chairman giving me the opportunity to speak and brian and america's mayor, rudy giuliani. the speech that rudy give the other night, that was absolutely amazing and that is the rudy we have come to know over the years. [applause] rep. king: now, michael faulkner, grave a great -- gave a great speech, but i'm glad you are praying for ted cruz. i'm not, i got to be honest with you. i am praying for the people of texas you have to put up with that guy. [applause] grudges.guys carry maybe i will go to your church and you will teach me how to be a little more

rep. king: now, i'm saying good things about jan donovan. let me tell you the other side. last year, after 14 years of fighting hard, he finally got bill/11 health care through to take care of the firefighters and cops and construction workers injured at ground zero. [applause]

rep. king: that passed in december of last year, and dan was elected in the special election of may of that year. finally passed, defeating people like ted cruz who tried to stop the bill, i went to him and said what a great day. he said "yeah, but how come it took you 14 years? i've been here 16 months and got it done." tremendous asset and can't tell you what a great friend he is. you made it tough decisions when he was facing an onslaught from special interest. let me say one thing about ted cruz, not trying to be funny about this kid you can disagree with donald trump about this issue or that issue. the fact is he is the nominee of the party. [applause] rep. king: and ted cruz ran for president. he made a pledge to support the nominee of the party. last night, if he was going to support donald trump, good come

stay down in texas. acceptyou are going to primetime television from donald trump and you don't have the manners, common decency and goodness to endorse the man who is giving you the opportunity to speak on national television in primetime, that shows he is a fraud, a liar, the kind we have come to hate in washington. [applause] rep. king: thank you. way, that was off the record, but anyway. [laughter] rep. king: but apart from donald trump being the nominee of the party, on the key issues, national defense, homeland security, defending the borders, supreme court appointments, there is no choice between him and hillary clinton. he is clearly -- donald trump is

clearly the man we need to provide the leadership for our country. he is the one who will stand by the cops. as the son of a former nypd cop, i feel strongly about this. there is no moral equivalence the between the men and women in blue and those who riot and demonstrate. the police in new york and throughout the country have done more to save white lights, black all theall lives, than talking heads you see on television and all those who try to provoke. they are the men and women we should be standing with. hillary like clinton and try to make michael brown, who was a criminal come into some kind of civil rights hero. [applause] is killinghen isis people overseas, slaughtering people overseas, threatening to kill americans in the country, terrorist attacks on the increase, how anyone can

consider not voting for donald trump and call themselves a republican and someone who really cares about the country, to me that is beyond the pale. turner,t friend bob former congressman, we really need him back in congress. [applause] i am proud to stand with donald trump. we have differences. it is a large part country in ae party. on the key issues -- the moral issues, strength, it is donald trump by five. i am proud to stand with donald trump, proud to stand with all of you. thank you, and god bless america. [applause] >> pete, thank you very, very much but great remarks. introduce our next speaker, this

is a quiet man, businessman, a man who built up an extra ordinary business laying pipe all around the country, carrying natural gas and oil from one part of the country to the other , new york -- not new york, but the country became the leading producer of oil and gas in the world through using the latest forms of technology. i met him at the republican national committee, finance committee meeting. we talked about new york state could he shares my passion for making york state business friendly. he has been a mainstay of support for a local official, four counties, for -- for our counties, for members of the family, state senators, congressmen. he is now an elected national committee member.

charlie joyce. [applause] >> thank you, chairman cox. i inherited this duty late yesterday from my national committee person, and i'm very pleased to be up here in front of you. said to my don't like to be in front of crowds too much, but my last speech was four weeks ago at my old high school in a town of 1200. i spoke to 23 graduates. [laughter] similar situation here, i guess. them isid share with they should get involved in the process. mostly 18-year-olds that are

going to be involved in the political process for the first time. we desperately need them. we need young leadership and young participation. i was heartened this week to children andp other young speakers who are going to be the backbone of our party going forward. my own son is here and i am thrilled to have him share this opportunity with me. [applause] thank you. so it is my privilege to introduce, as you have heard several times and referred to as america's mayor, but we as new yorkers claim him and cherish him as our mayor. [applause] he is one of the most well-known and well-respected people in the world, especially in the u.s., and for good reason. he walks the talk.

look what he did to the city, for the city. same thing that donald trump is going to do for our country. itsrought it back from hi knees, and donald trump will do the same thing for our country. [applause] lit u anight he fire under this convention that we sorely needed. i read one newspaper article thing atd he had us fro the mouth. well, i guess they are right. he lived that fire and it is our reposelily -- it is our lewdly to keep that fire burning through november 8 when we elected donald j. trump as president. [applause] so i'm very proud to introduce our speaker, rudy giuliani comments thank you very much. [applause]

mr. giuliani: thank you, thank you. much.you very, very the only reason i gave a really good speech the other night was simple. downi came out, i looked at the new york delegation right front of me. [laughter] [applause] when are we ever in the front? [laughter] mr. giuliani: i saw joe mondello, saw ed, saw all the friendly faces. i said, man, i am back in brooklyn. [laughter] mr. giuliani: this is in cleveland, this is brooklyn -- this isn't cleveland, this is brooklyn. it made me feel very comfortable

that, gosh, i could have said almost anything and he would have cheered. [laughter] mr. giuliani: so i thank you very much. i have to tell you, just what i am hearing here this morning i spoke to several other delegations this morning, yesterday morning, about five. the enthusiasm level at this convention is considerably higher than it has been in some time. it is completely different than it was four years ago. four years ago we had a very dignified and nice convention, but i would call it a buttoned up convention. [laughter] mr. giuliani: this one is wild! [applause] mr. giuliani: i just met the

people from arkansas. i don't know, i'm half asleep. they are going crazy. they are jumping up and down, they got funny hats on, doing all kinds of crazy thing. people are enthusiastic. i want you to know that. there is an enthusiasm level here -- i think the last time i saw this enthusiasm level is when we had the convention in new york in 2004. [applause] mr. giuliani: and we won that year. [applause] mr. giuliani: i don't think you are going to find this next week in philadelphia. i'm going to go one day to the democratic convention -- i always go. sadomasochist. [laughter] but i go to step on their parade.

i don't think i will find this enthusiasm and i will tell you why. they are kind of fighting for the symbol thing. the symbol thing is really bad. i mean, there is nothing new. hillary clinton has been around since before george washington. [laughter] mr. giuliani: right? i think. i told the people of arkansas, if anybody in arkansas votes for her, you got a be crazy. she doesn't like you. she never likes you. she never wanted to live in arkansas. ww!ansas, e [laughter] [applause] mr. giuliani: but there is an enthusiasm level double take us through.

i think this election, the person who has gotten it right, who is somebody who gets it right sometimes, gets it wrong sometimes, some of the most brilliant ideas and politics, some ideas that can put you in jail. dick morris. dick morris says this isn't going to be a left-right election, like we are used to. this will be an insider-outsider election. it will be an election about what do you want. do you want washington as it is, or do you want somebody to totally transform it? if you liked it the way it is, you will go with a quintessential washington insider. really should be the quintessential fort leavenworth insider. [applause] is -- liani: but she >> lock her up! mr. giuliani: oh -- >> lalock her up!

mr. giuliani: joe, what do you think, we go back one more time and it trump gets elected, we volunteered to try the case? [applause] mr. giuliani: dan, you will help us? ok. i got to tell you, the other night attorney general mukasey spoke, who is my friend for 40 years, 50 years, like pete king is. a congressman and convicted him back in 1974 for a $40,000 bribe. i'm now embarrassed by that conviction. [laughter] $40,000!ani: a measly this woman has taken millions! she has taken millions! i put people in jail for $10,000, $20,000, $30,000

bribes. i think i will have to go to confession. [laughter] mr. giuliani: this is absurd and what is going on in this country. it is absurd. what thelly sick, clintons have been allowed to get away with, from the time they were shaking people down in the little rock. you have to go to the rose law firm if you wanted to deal with bill. hillary was working through the rose law firm, except she had an interesting job, one where you didn't show up. and if you wanted a contract with the state of arkansas, everybody in arkansas neknew you went through hillary. so they started as clerks. -- crooks. donald, lower than name-calling, but crooked hillary is certainly a

description of the time in little rock. then they went from the smalltime to the big time -- heh, washington. hundreds of thousands, now we will go for the millions. we had them selling the lincoln bedroom. remember that one? us forts love to attack war on women. over the last 20 years, the biggest war on women has been conducted is by bill clinton. [applause] bill clinton, our predator president. with his wife who enabled him. aided him. covered up for him. bimbo squad. you've seen the movie -- what is

that, "color," with john travolta? think it's true? they had all these women, scared them to keep their mouth shut. hillary knew about all that. hadn't comewinsky up with the dress, they would have destroyed her, made her into some kind of insane person. is this someone who cares about the rights of women? >> no! mr. giuliani: you think i'm stupid? you think i believe you care about the rights of women when you cover up the sexual, predatory actions of your husband that would get any executive in america fired in two seconds, and would put some of them in jail! [applause] mr. giuliani: you don't care about women! you don't care about feminism!

you don't even care about your own dignity. all you care about is power, clinton power. and you have a media that has covered up for you, and they should be ashamed of themselves! [applause] mr. giuliani: in fact, only one reason she shouldn't be president. [laughter] mr. giuliani: i'll be brief on the others, because we could be here until after donald speech tonight -- donald's speech tonight. the national security case against her is so strong that i have convicted people on 10% of

the amount of evidence that we have against her. she violated -- i have them all in my little book i gave to sean hannity 13 months ago, and every couple weeks i update with new crimesit -- i update it with new crimes we find she committed. we are at 15. which mukasey and i wrote for fun, is 20 pages long. i will give you one. fbi director jim comey said she was extremely careless with national syndicate united states code 70 91 makes it a federal felony to be personally negligent in the handling of national security. the definition of gross negligence, both in the law dictionary and a number of

cases, is being extended careless -- is being extremely careless. if it were me, if it were togressman king, who has had deal in his life with an enormous amount of top-secret material, being chairman of the homeland security committee, if it were dan donovan, if it were anyone else, they would've been prosecuted. prosecuted,aeus was for less. why wasn't she prosecuted? now, we can't do anything about that, yet. if donald trump becomes president, the statute of limitations will not have run. there is no double jeopardy because she has never been put on trial. we can reopen the case. [applause]

mr. giuliani: so she is going to be running to try to prevent getting an orange jumpsuit. because i don't even want to go into the foundation case, which i think is even stronger. chart of all the times they got millions of dollars. the foundation, clinton's speaking fees, and all the things she did. when shedid for ubs told the internal revenue service to backup the case ubs gavebs, and clinton a $1.2 million speaking fee. she took money for helping to get nuclear material into russia.

but it's ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous. foundation is a racketeering enterprise. [applause] mr. giuliani: it's a racketeering enterprise. statute -- i was the first one to use the racketeering statute for public corruption. i didn't against most of -- i ed it against most of koch's administration. ed wasn't paying attention while they were stealing millions. so there we have hillary. you can't vote for her. you can't. i mean, you just can't. you can't put a criminal in the white house. you can't do it. now we have donald trump. donald trump is a man who has had enormously tremendous success in building great buildings, great projects, great

businesses, and great golf courses. and dan and i love him for that, right? and of course, he has had failures. so has every great man. you know, a rambling can -- abraham lincoln lost election to the senate to your -- two years before he became president of the united states. byhael bloomberg was fired the salomon brothers. best thing that ever happened to him. if he stayed at salomon brothers, he would only be a millionaire. [laughter] mr. giuliani: when he founded bloomberg he became a multimillionaire. best thing that ever happened him. the point is that all great men and women have some failures along the way, and what happens is they learn from them and become better. , who got fired

by apple and came back and put apple back together again. donald trump's successes far outweigh whatever failures he had. but he wouldn't be a businessman and a great one if he had some failures. but he has created a great empire. i am going to tell you something that i believe he is going to tell you tonight, and get the american people to realize. he didn't do it on his own. this isn't a one-man show. he didn't build those buildings. he didn't put the nails in and the plumbing in and pour the concrete. he went and picked the best architects, the best builders, the best crews. he would be on the site to motivate them, to give them a sense that they are important, they are important people. even the people bringing up a copy to the construction workers, he would go over and thank and say hello to.

this is a man although he is extraordinarily wealthy, this is a man who cares about people. i don't like the term "little , bige," little people people, people of different social stratas or whatever, but this is a guy who treats people of every social strata the same. andrew has played golf with him on hundred times. i have laid golf with him less often because i'm not as good as andrew and he can help him win. my handicap is a matter of top-secret, which i keep on my personal e-mail. [laughter] mr. giuliani: and i'm an expert in cyber defense and you are not going to get it. but nothing like andrew's.

and i have to tell you how he treats caddies, he treats my police officers -- i've known donald for many years. when i was mayor, i was surrounded by more police officers. i still am surrounded by police officers because i run a security firm. every time donald comes up and sees me, first thing he does is he goes and hugs -- sorry. he may not be italian, but he is a hugger. he hugs my police officer's. some of them, hard to get your arms around them. [laughter] if giuliani: i don't know george is here today, but both of them are with me. before he comes up to me, he goes over to my police officer's, shake their hands, "thank you, you got everything?

you want lunch? you are not on the job anymore -- you can have lunch, don't worry." this is a very, very good man, and he is a very smart man, because he knows that by doing those little things, that is how you engender that exceptional performance that gets you great results. i will tell you from that is the key to my success in the city. it wasn't me. i had great people. i love them, i cared about them i had their back. then you might did -- they knew i did, and they went out and did exceptional things and i got the credit. donald trump understands this better than anyone else. that is what makes a great president. what makes a great president, the man is a great executive, or a woman is a great executive, who knows how to select talent, knows how to motivate that talent, knows how to evaluate that talent, knows how to get rid of people when you have to, because sometimes you make a mistake.

i certainly did. at times. that is why he is going to do great things for us. he is going to do great things for us because he has an ability to delegate and an ability to lead that we haven't had in the white house, i don't think, since ronald reagan, who was a natural executive. [applause] so of course this is an anti-hillary vote. imagine under any set of circumstances how she could possibly get elected. but we are fortunate that it is more than that. we are getting someone who i think is the right person at exactly the right time. we are getting someone from outside of washington. he has proven that he knows how to pick good people, by taking

an excellent vice president. [applause] is -- that isthat -- that is like a prism, like the looking glass into what you can figure out, what kind of cabinet he is going to put together. the choice of a vice president is so important because it tells you how the man is going to make his decisions. what did he do? he went and found someone to balance some of the things he is to balance. that he needs to balance. he found the governor, one with a record, one who is a member of congress -- was a member of congress, an expert in the budget and foreign policy, and also a man who went in congress ,as something of an outsider not part of the establishment he

is running against. what a brilliant choice, and what a good man mike pence is, and what a great speech he gave last night. [applause] mr. giuliani: so i want you to leave here today with the confidence that those are the kinds of people he is going to select for secretary of state, secretary of defense, attorney general, on and on and on pit obviously, there will be different people with different talents, but this is a man who knows talent and knows how to judge it. i do not recommend that he announced his cabinet before the election. punch thatig sucker is offered up to all these candidates and i will tell you why it is a sucker punch. let's say he chooses 12 people. the press -- excuse me, but it ohtrue -- the press will go, my gosh, this guy got left back in the third grade. [laughter] mr. giuliani: oh, this one was

caught spitting on the sidewalk three times. three times! three times he spit on the sidewalk! and this one here plagiarized speech because he ended by saying "god bless the united states of america." [laughter] [applause] they -- ini: you know sent across from another great governor this morning, governor hutchison of arkansas, and the if you aregreed that a republican, you definitely have it much harder with the if you arehe -- than a democrat, and in fact we are paranoid. it paranoia is not an

llness when people are after you. [laughter] mr. giuliani: it is just a realistic condition. i knew from the day i walked in as mayor of new york city that every single thing i did was going to be ripped apart by "the new york times" and by what we now call the mainstream media. putting people on welfare to work -- i was called mean. fingerprinting people on welfare because we have people on welfare 3, 4, 5, 6 times. arresting people. stop and frisk. -- whicholice officers i did, which mayor bloomberg increased, which may or d -- ma yor de blasio has taken out.

he is taking an enormous risk with our safety by doing that. pete knows this better than anyone else. do you know any priest, any minister, any rabb that would have the slightest objectioni, if i put one or two of my police officer's in a church for their synagogue or their shuul? they would probably ask me to put more in. imam is going to care if i have a police officer they're sitting there and listening to the wonderful things you should be saying .bout their religion the only ones who don't want the police officers there are the ones who are plotting the bombings that are taking place, like the bombing of the world trade center in 1993, which was planned in a mosque in new jersey. years, i hired

police officers specifically to be undercover and to be in those mosques so i could keep track of the good ones and bad ones, and there are both. good ones and bad ones. taking them out is political correctness overcoming public safety. in fact, it's stupid. [applause] mr. giuliani: so i am going to conclude by asking you to do me a favor. thirdk i was the republican mayor in the 20th century. there were only three -- laguardia, lindsay, and me. only two of us remained republicans.

abraham -- [applause] mr. giuliani: i won new york city twice with all of your help. one close, one in a landslide. new york city voted against abraham lincoln. huh?y crazy city, [laughter] but new york, as you know, is a lot bigger than new york city. we've got nassau. [applause] margin fori: biggest ronald reagan, 1980, nassau county, bigger than orange county, california. we have suffolk. putnam -- ichester, can't mention them all. we've got a whole big middle of the state. you are just like pennsylvania.

you like to hunt -- you like to hunt, right? you want to make sure nobody takes away your second amendment right to bear arms, right? [applause] and you want to -- hey, how about we put people back to work by fracking, hydraulic drilling? [applause] mr. giuliani: how about we rebuild new york into what it used to be, one of the great industrial capitals of the world? [applause] mr. giuliani: and god -- resources inut the

our to allow us to do it. pennsylvania is doing it, and it did it under a democratic governor, ed rendell. a democratic governor. because he cared about his people more than he cared about being terrorized by the out-of-control environmentalists. environmentalist -- i am an environmentalist. i'm just not a nutty come out of control environmentalist. [applause] mr. giuliani: all of this is possible if we can win. and i want donald trump to win and i believe he is. i want him to win new york! [applause] mr. giuliani: i want him to a new york. -- win new york. joe wants him to win new york. pete king wants him to win new

york. good got some pretty delegates for him in new york and we are not giving new york up. hillary, we are going to kill you in upstate new york! you are finished! hillary, you are finished in nassau and suffolk and westchester, and putnam. and i know, because i played golf up there, that several of your neighbors in chappaquiddick can't stand you. out ingoing to take you new york. and we are going to do it the way ronald reagan did it, the same breakdown of votes between the city, the suburbs, and upstate new york.

and if we can take you out in we are going to win big, and we are. we have got a much better candidate than the media has allowed the american people to understand and to appreciate. we've got a much better -- we will have a candidate with the skills to communicate. i've only seen matched by maybe ronald reagan, maybe bill clinton as a great communicator. maybe obama. great communicator, terrible president. but i think more than they -- i think he understands modern american communication better than anybody. i think he understands american television better than anyone. and i think he knows how to overcome the disadvantages of the press against him in the disadvantages of all the money hillary has by his complete domination of the free media.

you can't go anywhere in the world -- i have recently been in germany and in china and israel where the first question you're asked is not what is hillary clinton like, but what is donald trump like? this election is about him. it is not about her. he is going to prove tonight and throughout this campaign. this is not even going to be close. we are going to wipe her out. [applause] thank you. thank you very, very much. and finally, thank you very much for all the support you have given me over the years and for the help in making the mayor. thank you for allowing me to participate in some of your campaigns where i support you or come in and support your opponent when you wanted to. -- want me to.

[applause] thank you to my friend, who i love. i'm not going to go have this guy because he might punch me in the face. i don't know. you as soon as i come down. thank you to ed for making this great party. [applause] and thank you for what you do id for the people of new york. the republican majority in the state senate, the republican minority in the assembly, when i was mayor saved me so many times from the insanity of shelley silberman, who's now sitting where he always has belonged. [applause] you saved the city so often that i owe a great debt of gratitude. whenever i am called to help the assembly candidate, senate

candidate, as you know, i always say yes because i owe you. thank you very much. god bless new york and god bless america. thank you. [applause] >> continuing coverage of the last day of the republican national convention here on c-span. lastcal comments in that new york delegation come the event we just showed you from former mayor giuliani come also from peter king on the speech last night by ted cruz. that new york breakfast was happening, at the very same time the texas delegation was meeting between 9:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m. eastern this morning and it was at a texas delegation that ted cruz spoke. some reaction to that and the speech last night in a tweet by the hill. comment by former house speaker newt gingrich.

cruz is a danger of becoming the guy who helped elect hillary clinton. those comments coming after last night's speech and also a comment this morning before the texas breakfast delegation. here's some of what ted cruz had to say. cruz: if anyone here thinks that i was eager to come to this -- thank you, sir. if anyone thinks i was eager to come to this to convention and give a speech laying out, supporting a great many of the policy decisions laid out by donald trump, laying out why hillary clinton is utterly unfit to be president, despite the fact that neither he or his campaign has taken back a word he said about my family, i promise you i was not eager to do that. it was something i thought i had

an obligation to do. i had an obligation to go and stand and speak, and i will say -- what does it say when you stand up and say vote your , and a rabid supporters of our nominee start screaming, what a verbal thing thing-- what a horrible to say. [applause] sen. cruz: if we can't make the case of the american people that voting for our party's thing to nominee is consistent with voting your conscience, is consistent with being faithful to because intrusion than we are not going to win and we do not deserve to win. that is how you win elections. [applause] speech by ted cruz before the texas delegation is morning available at www.c-span.org. the will be making his acceptance speech tonight.

i'll coverage getting underway at 7:20 eastern. anticipating the speech tonight, this is from the hill. staynell pushing truck to on message, to stick to script during the speech tonight. also from of xander jaffe thing that his speech tonight will be run through wagers on software out of an abundance of caution -- senior trump sources tell. donald trump and his daughter ivanka trump will introduce the candidate, walk-through their speeches tonight. here's what some of that look like. >> which would you rather have?

is this exactly as it is? we could move the higher one over here, whichever you like. >> this feels good. >> they had in front of you as well. the big screen. >> looks very good. podium?is the ok. >> i think this looks good. >> you will have a different -- >> does she have the original one? wise different -- why is it different? that? they have to do

i think they wanted to take it down so they can have a photo op. if i more than a foot away, is that bad? >> you'll want to keep your hips here. you,e font is good for dad? mr. trump: i love the media. they are so honest. they're such honorable people. it's about time i said that, right? i love cleveland, i love ohio. it is great to be here. thank you everybody. i love cleveland and you're doing a great job. and the police are doing an incredible job.

thank you very much. thank you, sounds great. >> the sound check from about two hours ago at the quicken loans arena. deval patrick will introduce her dad this evening. the final couple speakers on the last night of the republican national convention in cleveland. about tonight's speech, the chief washington correspondent for the washington examiner tweets the photo from that session. want substance in trump acceptance speech. show you some of what is going on inside the quicken loans arena. we'll take you outside now in some of the area that has been designated for protests that have been happening throughout the week. what makes her think she could satisfy america?

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>> people going through that gate are the delegates officials and others. the people on the other side, you are hearing more than what you're seeing. you may have seen a member of code pink, a regular at some of the washington events. look outside of the quicken ands arena as we get set anticipate the start of the final night of the republican national convention. our preview coverage starting at , theeastern and speeches official program starting tonight at 7:20 eastern. we haven't covering a lot of events looking at the convention, the 2016 race. we will take you to a discussion hosted by the atlantic from earlier today with the republican consultant mike murphy. a lot of the participants looking at the race, looking at the convention and the nomination of donald trump. where calling this morning's

session the road to the white house. tonight, donald trump access the republican nomination then it is on to the general election. talk aboute going to with the campaign will look like from here, from here, about the search for party unity, which as we know, took a hit last night on the floor. we'll dive into what it means for trump's effort to rally the base and attract enough independent democrats to put him over the top. if you want to join the conversation on twitter, use the #theatlanticrnc. and c-span is here capturing the briefing. let's get rolling and introduce our guests. we have john graybender, a former aide on former senator rick santorum's two presidential campaigns. he has a second mission here in cleveland, which goes beyond politics. he hopes to get the band "yes" into the rock and roll hall of fame. so, good luck with that. a littlean was

director for george w. bush and is now a partner with the public affairs firm ddc. mike duehaim was director of the national committee and held senior positions with george w. bush, rudy giuliani. he was lead strategist for chris christie's two gubernatorial campaigns and partner at mercury public affairs firm. mike murphy, republican political consultant who most recently ran the super pac for jeb bush's presidential campaign. he's advised mitt romney, john mccain, and many others. we're going to be joined in progress by the former national spokesperson for the ted cruz campaign. he's a current msnbc analyst, rick tyler. he'll come in right in the middle. here to lead the conversation is ron brownstein, and major garrett. take it away. >> good morning, everybody. margaret, i mentioned that the official title is "road to the white house" but i call the

event, which is my favorite, the campaign manager's summit. we have some of the sharpest thinkers and strategists in the republican party, although i would slightly amend john graybender to say that the "yes" album cover deserves it -- >> no, it's not marginal of the band. >> we're in the mist of an extraordinary convention. last night, sara, we saw something from ted cruz that we probably haven't seen since nelson rockefeller in 1964 come on to the convention floor and very conspicuously and overtly not endorse the nominee. that the implications of for ted cruz and what are the implications of that for donald trump and the party? >> the most significant moment of the convention so far and not -- and the most mishandled.

not just by the trump campaign but also by ted cruz's handlers. because the implications for trump, of course, that the party remains un-unified. the one person perhaps most able to unify the party, the person becoming closest to being the nominee, besides trump, not only didn't endorse but said it's okay not to vote for him. which is a pretty bold move. that says to many conservatives, particularly christian conservatives, it's okay for you to sit out and vote up-and-down the ticket and leave that space blank. whether he meant it or not, i think he probably did, that was the implication and that's how it was took. but in the presidential campaign, at this stage of a contest, there is no reason, in my view, they shouldn't have known exactly what ted cruz was going to say. and if cruz was going to say anything close to what he did say, he should have been speaking on monday night, not on wednesday night. he overshadowed mike pence's speech because of this.

and he probably hurt himself, ted cruz, probably hurt himself at least in the short term, and depending on the outcome of the election, potentially fatally. you know, think about it. if donald trump ends up losing this election by a few points, ted cruz is going to bear the brunt of that blame because of what happened last night. >> mike murphy. >> i fundamentally agree with that. let's try to think of it from the cruz point of view, though, to make the argument. i think they're thinking, one, we're going to run in four years. two, there are two possible donald trump outcomes. trump wins and he governs either as a train wreck or a moderate. neither of which we cruz people want to be linked to. we could wind up primary in four years. second, he loses in a big pile of rubble. we don't want any connection to that. so, i get the reasons for the cruz people, as the purity candidate. that's his brand.

not to endorse trump. but actually going up there on wednesday night. how it got cleared, i'm with sara. there are whole procedures in a convention so it can't happen. and the trump campaign says early this morning they knew about it, they were being magnanimous, whatever. convention so it can't happen.tg to control anything at your convention, which conventions are about control. but to go up there before pence on the second biggest night, unscrew your head, take out a lightbulb, and throw it between trump's eyes, it's unbelievable. it takes the strategy of being away from trump, which has some validity, and it creates a new debate of bad manners of selfishness, of show boating, which even some pro-cruz people are clearly repelled by. i think he blew himself up. the only question is if there's a complete trump disaster in november, will then in hindsight in the all new politics a year from now, will the purity thing

be able to resuscitate it? >> a follow up. from the other side, though, what does it mean for trump? >> well, it's interesting. i was on the "today" show with manafort this morning and he was saying we knew but mr. trump lets anybody speak. but it was unfortunate and kind of selfish. it was the only time i've seen the trump campaign work a sub text of being a victim. because trump is superman, bullet proof, never apologizes. so, that was a bit of a switch up. i think there is a voter problem here. trump really needs to get to 95% or 96% of the republicans, let alone everybody elsewhere he has trouble, to be competitive. now he's in a bit of what i'll call a dog whistle squeeze play. on one side you have the regular republicans. the jeb bushes, george w. bushes, and the romneys. in a more polite way have taken a pass on trump. now you have the christian conservatives who have the most

ideological concern about trump because trump doesn't have a ideological history of any credibility in their party. getting a dog whistle is okay not to be for trump. how he gets the republican number to 95 let alone the other numbers, i think got harder now. short term, you know, maybe there is a sympathy bounce. >> mike and jon, you've been in situations not like this, but where you've had to negotiate something and build something good out of something that could be bad. i want to ask both of you. if you were in the middle of that, do you think there was a way to negotiate this to a better place? and strategically, how would you have tried to approach it? >> i wouldn't have let ted cruz speak. especially even on monday night, maybe monday afternoon. maybe not. i think not at all. have if you are not going to endorse the nominee, this is the nominee's convention, that is how it works. there were be articles saying you did not let ted cruz speak, who cares? speaking aboutl ted cruz in not mike pence, that is a huge mistake.

i think the way to negotiate is not negotiated. if you not going to endorse, that is it. >> my big problem is it's symptomatic that they are not under control. even if they negotiated that cruz was going to come out with a full endorsement, i still wouldn't have done it before your vice president pick who is an important speech for you that night. you know, on a regular world i would say, look, they should initiate the random drug testing because this happened. it's an absurdity that they allowed this to happen. now, my belief is in cruz world, they've calculated they believe donald trump is probably not going to win. they believe it's possible he's going to implode. and i think they look at had this as the democrats did this going into iraq vote. eventually we're going to get to a point where it's, did you support donald trump and hold your nose as a conservative, or did you stand up for your principles? and i think cruz is trying to look down the road and say i never did.

>> i don't think it's going to work. i think trump -- he could be a disaster. trump could lose by 50 and the trump voters will blame ted cruz. it may have nothing to do with ted cruz's speech and they'll blame him forever. and ted cruz has spent six months building donald trump up. no chance. i think they might have been looking at that way. >> that's what i think. >> i don't think. >> they have the tone of betrayal now, which is unnecessary. it was a huge bet they made for kind of limited upside and huge potential downside. >> you know cruz, as is his>> tf style, took it the most furthest to the most confrontational point possible. if you look at marco rubio's speech, none of them said a single word praising the character, temperament, or fitness of donald trump for the office. john kasich isn't here. jeb bush isn't here. even scott walker was done with

donald trump at the 53-second mark of his speech last night. what is the impact of all of this? we're not hearing the things we usually hear from party leaders. chris christie obviously was strong. jeff sessions, newt gingrich, but a large number is typical. what impact does it have? >> i don't think it will have much impact on donald trump and his chances in november. he's running uphill now even on his best day. just given the electoral college map and past gaffes and things he's said. i think the fact that the republican party apparatus doesn't embrace him has no bearing on the excitement around his candidacy and probably has some bearing on people showing up and knocking on doors and making phone calls. he's not investing in that anyway. he's clearly not building that infrastructure for his campaign. so i don't think, i mean, i was

thinking about this earlier as we were, you know, we've spent a week talking about gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. this has been an embarrassing convention. there's been a lot of problems with it. but i am not really sure at the end of the day when we leave this convention it's going to have any impact on donald trump's numbers. and if it does, it'll be temporary at best. >> it will have an impact on cruz's numbers. i don't think he comes across looking principled. the principal thing would've done -- what had been to do what rubio and everybody else or don't come. he used the audience to his benefit. >> john kasich actually handled it the right way. >> i agree. >> and, you know, he didn't endorse him. so, he's not coming to the convention to draw contrast to him. the trump campaign actually egged that on. that was another unforced error. >> let me come at it at a different angle. mike murphy, donald trump, one of his biggest problems, if not the biggest, the consistent roughly 60% of the polls he's not qualified to be president.

abc has asked this four times. the total variation between 58% and 60% saying no. you don't have this week and you don't have going forward these validating forces in the party saying yes, he is qualified. is there a cost in simply, you know, the contrast between the way his family and friends have talked about him and the way the elected leaders have talked about him has been cavernous in this week. is there any implication for that? >> yeah. i agree with sara that the idea of the establishment has not embraced him underwrites his normal appeal. it i'm the guy that is going to blow up the establishment. but all the political calculations being made by all these seasoned politicians who have been around a lot of elections, this guy is a loser and this guy is anthrax. that is a pull in and of itself of experienced politicians. politicians act in their own interest. you can see how they're reacting to trump. i believe the narrative of not ready for prime time is killing trump.

and what might be the biggest story isn't ted cruz making the show will move and blowing himself up but trump saying taking the nato alliance as an suggestion. that could become an enormous issue. if they don't have a speech writer other than the team of xerox tonight -- [laughter] working on some strong nato language for the speech, even if he has to read it, they're going to be in quick sand on that. because that is enormous. that is bigger than jerry ford in poland. it is huge. they've got put that back in the bottle. i think the narrative that donald trump is playing with this whole thing rather than serious about it, and the lack of any policy depth in the campaign, i think it's ultimately going to wipe him out. >> i think it's a missed opportunity. what it is is you have a week of infomercials you could have. it's a missed opportunity to make his numbers better. his numbers, his favorable numbers are so bad, and granted, her's are awful, too. it's a race because both numbers are awful. it was an opportunity for his numbers to go up a little bit.

i think it's been missed. but it can all be wiped out if he kills it tonight. people have to realize tonight is what matters more than anything else. the first three nights are missed opportunity. but that could change it. >> tonight, the speech, if you're a part of that team, what do you say to the candidate, the principles most important? >> read the speech. that will be the first thing i would say. look, i think there's a lot of people out there that want to vote for donald trump but they're scared to at this point and they want reassurance. i think if he comes and thinks that this is about prosecuting hillary clinton tonight. that's the wrong thing to do. i think christie did a good job. rudy giuliani did a good job. they have heard all this rhetoric from trump about the new america. people want to know what is that vision really about, what is it going to look like and how we're going to get there, naturally get a comfort level that i like this guy, i respect this guy, and i can literally see him as president. he's talking to a lot of moderate republican women.

he's talking to a lot of conservatives still. and he's talking to, you know, blue collar, middle income families who feel like they've been left on the economic down battlefield by both parties, and they want some hope there is going to be an american dream. it's inspirational, i think it's better. >> when is trump ever gotten in front of an adoring throng and not talked to the hall, not to outside? does anybody think he's going stay on the prompter for the whole speech the whole way? he should. i'll bet money he won't. >> i don't know if there will be a prompter. >> that's another debate. right. >> mike, to your point, if you were this is a difficult question -- >> i'm anti-trump. >> i know. but what needs to be the take away as he's walking off stage tonight? the trump campaign said that's the thing we have to achieve and we got there or got nearly there. >> in all literature, and politics is another form of story telling, there's a classic

arc, which as we meet the hero, the hero faces adversary, the hero overcomes it by changing and growing. this is the first change and grow moment for donald trump. i think he's incapable. i think he's the atomic clock of one thing. consent to it. but this is a speech he should stay on prompter, should be elegantly written, and doesn't need to be a grievance list. it needs to be what you get from trump and how trump has a vision to do the job, not he's mad about mexican rapists and hillary clinton. he can solve the hillary clinton problems for free. they're built in. the question is, what is the trump? most of all, what can he say to dramatically change the point of view minorities and to an even more extent college-educated white women think of him. >> i think, also, one thing that, like, mike said he may be incapable of this, but there are a lot of people who are looking

for a reason to vote for him because they do not like her. more importantly, they don't trust her. i think a little humility, a little -- i haven't always lived my life like i was running for president, and i recognize that that makes people uncomfortable. and as your leader, you know, i'm going to be an ethical, moral person. i wouldn't put it in those terms, exactly. but he should acknowledge that, you know, there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable with him. there's increasing evidence that he's underperforming in very red states. and that's not over policy. that's over character and over a lot of christian conservatives, mormons in utah, and other mountain west states who say i can't get over the braggadocios, i can't get over the multiple moral failures in his past life. i can't get past that. so, he's also got to give people

a reason to say, okay, he recognizes that that is a problem for him and he's turning the corner and focused on a way is going to honor and respect the oval office. >> what does trump have to achieve tonight? >> well, i don't disagree with >> i think he needs to project himself in a way that shows his strength and talk about policy. i agree, there are certain elements, i do not think he has to talk about building a wall. i think he needs to project an image of strength in foreign chops, and maybe show that he has not at this point. and to be likable. one thing he has, he is the most charismatic candidate out of the 17. hired him reason wwe to be part of their show for a while. he is very charismatic, likable, gregarious. that comes through in a way that helps.

fundamental thing about winning elections is, to be likable and more likable than the other person. we have not had the lesser of the two likable people win since richard nixon. .> let me follow up i am interested in your thought about what is the most meaningful measure of success for this week. will it be a horse race, or is it important that the perceptions of trump change. age peopleege believe he is biased against women and minorities. the race byrrow driving up hillary clinton's negatives, or will this be a lost opportunity if he cannot change the perceptions about him? >> i think the perceptions about him. i think the horserace numbers will change after the democratic convention and settle in closer to labor day.

but his numbers are in the 30's. he is not going to win. you have florida, north carolina, virginia, ohio, and a combination of other difficult states, as well. regardless of how bad her numbers are, they are better than his. numbers are misleading and premature. you only get a few aim brushes a campaign that defines who you are. biggest, he have to move his numbers. the voters that control the election, the 6% to 7% fulcrum voters. they go between undecided and hillary, they do not go to trump. so trump massively have to do something about his numbers. the numbers of what they perceive about you so that they listen when you pitch later are everything. i keep joking that it is like

being charlie manson's instructor. you think, look at that, he can learn the foxtrot. and next thing you know, he is trying to put a pen in your eye because he is charlie manson. so can trump do anything different in the most important speech in his life? you have to ask politicians and strategist deal with something they are not expecting. what do you think would be going on in hillary clinton's campaign, watching this convention? and you think there'll be any rearranging or adapting their convention to playoff anything they saw or did not see this week? >> she in some respects have the has,challenge donald trump she have to improve her favorability numbers. i do not think they will adapt. she has to put definition on who she is as a person.

remember, her numbers were quite high when she was a senator and during most of her 10 years as secretary of state. peoplea candidate, remember the clinton scandal, the difficulty around all clinton politics. so she has been high before, nationally. she can get some of this back and move past this e-mail scandal. i think you will see them really tell the story of hillary beginnings, she is a fighter, she stuck with a difficult situation personally, and triumphed. >> but nothing particularly to take advantage of? >> i do not think they need to. i think trump has been handing her the biggest political gift of her life every single day. and this week has been no different. she should not win the election with her numbers. if any one of the other likeiduals were here,

carson, we would be having a very different conversation. anyone of them. >> they have to fix hillary, but quickly, or as one nugget that is interesting. the evangelical world is changing and there is a growth in less politically conservative evangelicals. there are some dog whistles they could blow because there are character concerns about trump. >> i think next week you will have bill clinton and barack obama speak for her, and they will be phenomenal. it will be fantastic. for herill be great because they will tell her story better than she can tell it herself, and it will be well-received and very good speeches, better than anything we have seen here. and then she will go thursday night, and we will think, eh, she is not really there. the contrast between bill clinton and barack obama doing that, and meeting donald trump junior to do that -- other than chris christie we have not seen

anyone of that stature in the party. have not seen anyone of that stature since 43 -- bush 43. >> they may spend more time than a typical candidate in an acceptance speech. also, he has made many gaffs, she could spend a disproportionate time on trump and his fitness for office. in i think the speech california that defied him was successful. maybe to put a finer point on your question, she will spend more time on donald trump then she would on other opponents. >> their convention will be about making sure donald trump like college educated, moderate, often

republican women cannot go out with their friends and say yes, i am voting for donald trump. if you look at, they can win the collar counties, they can win in northern virginia, that is what they have to do and some of those places. they have to motivate some women who would have voted for romney but cannot vote for trump, to now vote for clinton. and probably, the ballgame is over. >> for hillary, her convention will try to make sure that does not happen. make it that donald trump is toxic among that audience. >> if you talk to priorities usa, the segue into the second half of our conversation, if you talk to priorities usa, they will technology that there -- principal argument is to have donald trump fail the cocktail test with educated whites. also, the parents of the

daughter with wind is it up -- shocked that he would mock disabled people. >> i don't know if they thought it through, but after this nato think him a you will see a lot more national security than you will at a democratic convention. there will be a choir there about military officers. the call went out. in the campaigns when there is an opening on the other side for throughing, you pour it. i could see the choir of brass. i think we will see a lot more of that than usual. is the general election pretty simple. 30% of the vote will be that most republicans do not compete with, african-americans, latinos, and mixed race. the young vote is even larger in

that percentage. trump's berry is, i will max out the 70% caucasian vote to the moon, but bernie sanders and other white liberals are not voting for donald trump, so they're targeting is that college educated voters, particularly college educated white women, who trump, repeatedly offends. that is why you need to see the character fund grow, or he will get boxed in. trumps the wrote best path to victory -- you did not predict victory, but his best way to get there. how does that look? >> at this is donald trump, he is not the quintessential candidate. we have been trained to think, this is how you win, you build off what romney started but then add to it in places like colorado or virginia where it was close. i do not think trump can do well in some of those states.

so the margin of error is so small for trump that first of all, you do have to win everything romney won, or you are already in trouble. that is why we are seeing democrats in north carolina now. and the paradox of trump is, while he loses some moderate upte votes, he is picking the sons and daughters of reagan democrats, they are angry and feel that it both parties, but they like the fact that donald trump is authentic and feels like he really will change things. he have to give a comfort level to those romney voters, and that is where the real challenge of their campaign comes in. white,t of those college-educated voters, is donald trump at risk for losing one of them for every son and daughter of a reagan democrat? >> yes. he has made people uncomfortable. there is a discomfort with him in terms of his rhetoric and

messaging, there is a chance to pivot from that. some of them are lost for good, i do not know forever. you look at collar counties around philadelphia, if he loses philadelphia,in it is over. it absolutely does not matter. so he needs to come back, but i am not sure how he does it. he had the opportunity to be the most centrist candidate. he is essentially a moderate republican from new york who said planned parenthood does some good things, obamacare does some good, he had a chance to pivot to the center like no candidate has in a long time, but he chose not to do it. trump,s key for donald or what i would be looking at if i was inside his trump operation, given where his mrs.rs are and where clinton's numbers are, and neither will change dramatically in the next month, i might be trying to get gary johnson on the debate stage because i do not believe donald trump can get

to 50% of the vote in this country. but he can get to 42% or 43%. and if there is a movement toward a third-party candidate, albeit a former republican governor, but one that takes pretty liberal positions on issues, that may be the best path for them to be successful. >> you think trump wants to take more time away from him on stage? [laughter] a great question, but they have to think outside the box at this point. to you aboutk something i witnessed last night on the floor. i was in the ohio delegation, and the pennsylvania delegation swing states.two and we have a story about ohio. pennsylvania delegates during the speech were going up like piston rods, applauding. everyone in the ohio delegation looked like their these were equipped with seatbelts. [laughter] >> when pence talked about his

mom, he applauded. but other than that, they were not there. how much of this dynamic between kasich and trump affects what we are talking about in a swing state in the general election? >> i think it matters. but, all the pennsylvania candidates are trump people. they have come to every convention, they do not know any of the delegate. ohio.s kasich won but in a state like ohio, where it is going to be close. certainly, having a back-and-forth in a negative way with a popular, incoming governor of the state you need -- kasich was not entirely helpful to romney, not entirely in sync. mistake, the fact that we are even still talking about it is problematic. not being a sore winner is a

important thing. it is your job to unite the party, and he has not done that. it would not matter and another state. in ohio if you win by one point, it matters. >> you can't win in pennsylvania and not win in ohio. but itndamentally agree, has to do with the cocktail party, and kasich has those narrow swing voters. a dirty secret is, our entire republican primary election system is designed to make sure those delegates are not a microcosm of the voters in the states in the general election. it is a bit of a card trick with of that. but the narrative the media up that ohio delegates are offended does have resonance and the cocktail party factor. >> when you talk about the electoral college, there are two states, ohio,g

michigan, pennsylvania, hampshire,new geographically different but similar. predominately white and blue color. and then you have the other ones that used to be more republican, but have become truly purple, virginia, florida, colorado, nevada. bettertrump is polling with lou collar whites in that rust belt swing states. and in the sun belt, they had almost the same results, already 5% in all of them. how would you assess his standing in each of those? and, can he win the white house just by running through the rust belt if he cannot compete in a more diverse, younger, college, white sun belt? >> i do not believe he can. many of the states you mentioned, back in 1988, i do not believe there is a candidate in his 30's -- as much as he has

democrats, and uncomfortable with bernie sanders success in michigan show, we cannot lose it states like florida and south carolina and somehow turn around states theave not won since 1980's. it has been a long time. we came close with president won 43, but we have not them. i do not think there will be a major shift nationally. >> short of a third-party candidacy, the way your scenario plays out is, you look a millennials and they are now larger than the baby boomers, and their predominately in those cities and on the coast, but not in the rust belt. so they are the most distrustful of institutions, they do not like either party, and they are

more likely to go support a third-party candidate. that would be the only way in my view. --the biggest attentional , wential national thing have had record turnout since and president obama inspired people and brought people out to vote. the numbers of both candidates, but especially her numbers, could keep democrat numbers down in a way that does not get picked up in the polling. but i think for the first time this millennium, we could see turnout go down from one presidential election to the next. and that could change things across the board. >> it is a myth about midwestern swing states. wisconsin has been a republican dream for a long time, but in presidential elections it has been tough. in my own state of michigan it has been a long time. and part of the myth is that, it is a blue-collar, white, archie

bunker workforce that trample resonate with, but the truth is, you look at the auto industry, it is smaller and manufacturing is more high-tech. so the michigan stereotype of reagan democrats, those numbers have shrunk. so even if you super-perform with those, there are more pharmaceutical scientists working for pfizer, then there are machinists working for the tank plant in war and -- warren. theonald trump won nomination and kicked everybody's butts, and these were very well-qualified and well-funded people. to me, that means there is something going on out there. if he can turn this into a movement -- look, he did not win by hypnosis. people actually turned out and voted. pennsylvania,s in which is not a homogenous state. if he can catch some fire here,

where there is enough people frustrated and angered, we could see a turnout that is completely different than we have ever seen before. there could be a closet vote for show that is not going to up on polls. and the only way he is going to win is to have a map that looks different. i personally believe that without winning ohio are sure, probably pennsylvania, and florida, winning all those western states is too big of a lift. and frankly, if he is a struggling with those red states like arizona and others, that means he will be struggling with those same types of voters in ohio and pennsylvania and so forth. problem with the primary, i agree you broke the mold, with under 50% of the vote, is every year the republican primary electorate becomes different than the general election of electorate. 28 million cranky old white guys, but not as many millennials and minorities.

so, trump has got to grow behind the superpower for the primary. >> presidential elections occur in collective mindsets and atmosphere, and outside events can shape that and create a surprising result. is there anything on the issue of terrorism or security that a great number of attacks, the horrible month of june, is there anything you think could affect the collective mindset of the country, an external event that could change these evaluations of the limitations of trump? >> i was at a dinner, i showed distinguished elder gentleman with an accent said, what about an attack a few days before the election that killed hundreds of americans, could that be the big change? you never know, we cannot predict that kind of thing. steady, but want

that is premature -- when i got i am not going to chicago or atlanta, but you do not know. think that if you think about presidential campaigns, it has always depended on attributes, a person who voters perceived to care the most about them,nd the people like but some leader over the course of the presidential history has been strong, and it is one that donald trump is winning right now. withake that and couple it some interesting ways pollsters which is, questions, in terms of these attributes, do you find this person acceptable? do you find donald trump acceptable, hillary clinton acceptable, is neither acceptable?

group of is a large voters, pushing 30%, that neither one of these candidates is qualified to serve as the president, is trustworthy on these issues. there is a huge block of them. a lot of them are not going to show up, but some of them are. theydo not like either, think neither is qualified, but they will vote for somebody. in your scenario, i think they run to the strong leader. >> to refine the question, does you brought up the cocktail party litmus test, and security concerns, could that crack through it? >> i think it probably favors trump in this way. a lot of the voters he is talking to feel like america has been getting sand kicked in their face for the last 10 years and they are sick of it. we feel like we have lost respect. i want to go back to something mike murphy has said. he mentioned that trump did well

among primary voters, but the general election is completely different. i am not sure the trump campaign has figured it out yet. >> i feel like the primary is still going on in the convention right now. [laughter] >> it is worth noting, that in the primary trump one half, and the primary he only won 35%. let's bring in the audience for some questions and final thoughts. please raise your hand. here is one in the back. please identify yourself. >> i am from the u.k. obviously, the brexit vote turned the establishment quite dramatically. is this a world protest happening in america, people are really looking at the establishment and saying that they do not want the same old

same old? >> i think we will find that out. it certainly republican primary voters have spoken. that donald trump said that was offensive or outside the norm supplanted the fact that he was the only one up there that was not a politician. they wanted someone who was not part of governing. the interesting thing about the brexit vote, i spoke with some pollsters who worked over there who said one of the things they found was people who had not voted in decades voted. so it was part of the polling that they looked at, it was missed, this influx of new voters. i do not know if we will see that this time. would like to at one point. one key difference is that the 90%torate in britain was white. and if you look at the share of white voters in britain who voted to leave, it was 53%. 53% responded to the anti-global, anti-immigrant message. 53% ofld trump wins

whites in the u.s., he loses by a landslide. if you look at the mass of those wanting to remain from london on to the south, that is exactly northern virginia, the suburbs of denver, the suburbs of philadelphia. and that is the challenge. it is exactly the same challenge from the same coalition, a different proportions in the u.s. than in the u.k., which is a much more homogenous area. structurallyre locked in both, there is a hunger to punish the establishment and status quo, a wrong-track election. that is why trump inappropriately talks about change. it is not as clean, and we do not have to deal with the french on a daily basis. >> i heard this from a few strategist, talking about the videos that have been played at

the convention. some folks have said there has not been the traditional bio videos that get folks pumped up. we saw a few last night, so i wondered if you would weigh in on that? candidates,ity tv we use a prize or has not been more video or better video at this convention? do not think the infrastructure exists in this -- ition to think about takes a long time to put something like that together. it requires usually a team of the very talented people. they are catching their breath every single day. they are still sprinting from the primary. so i think that was not intentional, but they never got around to it, i suspect. when asked that question, they will have the most beautifully produced, 10 minute infomercials

. >> it goes to an infrastructure question. a national, general election campaign is an enormous business . there are certain disciplines within that business, the ad people are just worried about the ad. it looks the polling and the ad. and then there are the guys who run of the phone bank and they do not worry about anything else. they are trying, the professional staff, but i do not think there are enough. and iaw a lot of videos thought some were brilliant, but they meant nothing. few of them, only a mattered. >> that is a pretty big statement. >> but it is true. nobody talked about those the next morning, and that is what this all comes down to. >> let me echo that, i agree to read the videos were overplayed. but there was an opportunity to do more digital streaming. i would have a go pro camera

backstage, where they get the players out and handle the delegations on monday afternoon. culture ofn unfiltered reality media, and they could've used to that more and they had a lot of opportunities area -- opportunities. >> thank you very much. with the trump speeches, the first was the one that conservatives want to hear, the second was a speech that actually reflected what his father said. , his by his father acceptance speech, i think would take them along way toward changing the shift that people might consider voting for him. but there is an auto aspect of all of this that i think is that ind in the notion a terrorist attack, people flock to strength. he has said so many things about gunman, the national debt, rebuilding the space program,

and everything else that is come along the way, the best infrastructure -- yet, there is never a question of how was this more than just words? because bernie sanders proposes a $57 million idea and everyone wants to know how he will pay for it. the total cost of what trump proposes is in the range of $40 trillion. >> it is interesting, are these questions he will face in the debate? thing,he strength of people flock to strength, but they run from fear, as barry goldwater would tell you. the clinton campaign will spend a lot of time turning trumps strength into risk. willf they succeed or not be a huge driver of what happens to trump. think that is making his numbers, those questions are out there. the voters enough credit, they are secretive and pretty smart and pay attention to this. i think some of those questions are out there.

is, heng about trump chumws a lot of charm -- sh in the water. it keeps people off guard and certainly not attacking one thing. >> let's do one more, and then take it back for final questions. >> i'm a student at the university of akron. i want to hit the fast-forward button and move to 2020. wins, with 95% of the african-american vote, and 75% of the hispanic vote, what does the gop do to recognize these trends and adapt their platform and game plan, moving forward, what can they do? >> it is up to elected

officials, you cannot fix this during campaigns. you fix this one governors and senators and mayors go into african-american communities and hispanic communities where they may be have 10% of the vote and see if they can get 15% . people do not vote for the party, they vote for individuals. and until we have individuals that can compete and win, we will lose nationally. we have to do that, and the primary system as mike said, caters to a different group. it has todone it, but be built around individuals, not a picture of an elephant. that's our incentives in the party are to do the wrong thing in democracy. we have demographic cataracts. i wrote something for time magazine about the coming republican ice age. it is hard to get a party to act in the long-term right interest when short-term incentives or to do the opposite. i am for superdelegates. i want less primaries, more smart people taking a -- picking

a damn delegate. also, bernie sanders versus second, i fear that when it came down to just ,ruz, and i was not for cruz but i wanted the cruz science experiment. now what we could very well have, as we could argue the trump case and if we lose, we might end up with, i am less certain to this, arguing that cruz argument again. 2020.close primaries in >> he want to know about a party, look at the organic media that the primary voters gravitate to. it is theepublicans

inter-web, and a.m. radio, we have to break that cycle or we are in trouble. >> i wanted to ask a final question, you talk about the possibility that trump could get a surge of new voters, he could max out on white voters, but given the underlying demography in the party, is this sustainable for the gop, and is it a greater risk to the gop if he loses or if he wins? and, if the implements of the agenda he ran on, things like deporting 11 million people? what do you worry more about, if he loses or wins? question, onereat many republicans are struggling with. on the one hand he is our nominee and we do not want hillary clinton. and if you believe it is a binary choice, that means you have to support donald trump. on the other hand, as you point out, what is worse? do you in for the minor medical procedure right now and suffer a week of discomfort, or do you

let the cancer grow for 25 years? i think that is the choice must republicans face, unless he dramatically changes the trajectory of his commentary and the way he has run his campaign. >> my bigger fear is the brand of the republican party. we assume 18 to 21-year-olds will not show up to vote, some all that has changed because of the way news is distributed. by the time they are 16 their relatively politically savvy. by the time they are 18, they are not only activists but their brand is set about who they are and who they are not. if we are going to grow as a party, we had better think about how we will talk to younger voters instead of saying that we will wait until they pay more in taxes. >> we take terrible lessons from 2010 and 2014. look it wisconsin, a senator, a

governor, both houses of the legislature, and that will not happen in the general election. we take bad lessons from those, and pat ourselves on the back too much. usrevious -- prieb said we were poorly equipped for general elections. if hillary condemn loses and it is up to republican leaders to deal with the smoldering ruins, who will be left? does trump jeopardize the senate and house? >> i think we have a good chance of losing the senate, no matter who the nominee is very we have ,on states like new hampshire and other states, that are difficult at best. -- wel have a love it will have a lot of governors left. i think trump is going to lose, and i am ok with that. smoldering ruin, and then we

build a more modern republican party. i think that is the better option. >> how are you willing to do that? worst thingsnd that happened to the toyota motor factories was world war ii. maybe that is where we are, we have to restart and go. thing that but one is interesting, we were supposed to get wiped out in the senate. outlier, and an some of people in the senate have a dog whistles that they are not really for him, they have moving room. illinois wheren mike kirk has a tough race that he is doing ok. if portman here in ohio -- they are tough races. showing more life because if they can be more distant from trumpet may give them running room, and people will want balance.

take badats also lessons. even if hillary clinton wins every state, we will have a majority in the house, potentially in the senate, and probably 30 republican governors. question, it only takes one really good nominee to start on that rebuilding process. and so the biggest challenge for the republicans is, we have not had a leader of our party for eight years. thathen we have a nominee we do today, a very different one, eight years from now or four years from now, we will have a very different nominee, particularly with a younger dynamic, more mind -- more modern. and we will turn the corner. >> he will be dukakis if he loses. >> you could say that american

politics, democrats cannot win enough white voters, and republicans cannot win enough nonwhite voters to win the white house. this has been an engaging conversation, we could go all have terrific strategist. [applause] >> thank you for joining us this morning, and just one programming note. we have more for you today, we will have a wonderful conversation at 12:30 this afternoon. we are talking women in politics, and how to make it more attainable for young women. christina hagan and more. thank you for joining us this morning. [applause] ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> you can find this event and all of our coverage and the schedule for tonight's speakers online at www.c-span.org, bringing you the convention inside and outside as well. cameras on the streets of cleveland, outside of the quicken loans arena in cleveland. let's have a walk.

>> we saw some members of the montana delegation outside of the quicken loans arena, as people make their way to the arena in many venues near the queue. our preview coverage coming up at 5:30 eastern, speeches beginning at 7:20 eastern, all of this live on c-span. we have also talked to other media organizations, to find out how they are covering the republican convention.

we spoke to facebook about how they are covering this election and convention in the 2016 election. >> jason, to the quicken loans arena, and progressive field. progressive field is this new location for facebook. " -- joining us is vice president of global policy for facebook. >> welcome to facebook central, the rnc in cleveland. we found over the last number of elections that facebook has become a new town hall. people are coming to facebook to have conversations with voters and candidates, for voters to raise their candidate questions. what we have built here is a place where we can help facilitate a dialogue, and give people a chance to share what is most important to them with what is happening here in cleveland. >> this is a sidewalk that is now a pop-up holding.

let's look at the second story of a small studio. what is going on up there? >> we built a facebook live studio up there. people can come onto facebook and broadcast live to their fans in real-time. it has turned out to be incredibly popular, a very authentic way for candidates and members of the media to talk with people who follow them. so he built a studio here where they can easily do it. and people just love it, it israel time and authentic and gives people a backstage access to the convention you might not otherwise see. >> so it really is america's 21st century town hall. >> it really is. people love to see it and broadcast this way. if you're a senior at home who cannot come to cleveland, now you can be her live by following people on facebook. millennial's spend a lot of time online, it is a chance for you to see what is happening in take heart in the

discussion. >> show us around. what is going on on this monitor? this is our data touchscreen that shows in real-time what is happening, the kind the discussions taking place on facebook about candidates, and issues. majorstance, our two party candidates, and if you touch on donald trump here you can see in the last 30 days who is talking about donald trump. this shows by day what the conversation looks like, and the number of interactions. almost 28 million different people in the u.s. talking about donald trump on facebook over the last 30 days, with over 232 million interactions, like likes, comments, shares. issues,see different these are the top five most talked about issues of the last 30 days on facebook. and you can see a lot of the things that are happening in the news that are driving the conversation on facebook, as you

would expect. so we can keep going on this. this is pretty interesting, it ofme, whicher the issues have been most talked about on facebook. and if you go back and look at those states, you can see things that happened in the news that are blowing up on facebook in terms of the conversation. it is an interesting way to visually capture what the conversation is as that town hall is taking place all over the country. >> and how new is all of this? where is this all going? >> the thing that is really new and innovative during this election coverage is live, and the ability of candidates to talk directly in real-time to their fans on facebook. veryyears ago, we had a limited video product on

facebook. times mostly at that photos, pictures people were taking, and their comments. and now we have a very advanced media product, and we are alive. it is changed the way the conversation is taking place on facebook, and the way it is taking place around the country and around the world. >> let's take a walk down here, you have a small replica of the oval office. what is the reason behind all of this? >> this is a fun thing instagram bill. people can pose their own version of the oval office in miniature. they can post it on facebook or instagram without tons of visitors -- we talked to ben carson here about an hour ago. so it has been a lot of fun and people love coming in and posting a picture of themselves in the oval office. >> we have moved upstairs. this has a silicon valley feel here.

>> that is the idea, we want to bring a little bit of silicon valley to cleveland and give people an opportunity from cleveland to connect and facilitate civic engagement. >> what role do you think facebook will play in this election in terms of connecting with activists and voters? facebookk the role places that we are an open platform that gives candidates, voters, activist, anyone interest in politics, an opportunity to share their ideas and connect with people. that is the role facebook plays in this election here in the u.s. and around the world. >> how is your boss, mark zuckerberg, following the campaign? >> leading market is really excited about opportunities for people to connect on facebook and share their ideas about the campaign live, which we talked about earlier, it is the biggest innovation around this campaign in these elections. just an opportunity for people to come onto facebook and connected real-time in a very authentic way with the people that they are connected to on

facebook. it is a real innovation and something that is changing the way politics takes place. >> and not only changes the way politics take place, you're part of the evolution and the media landscape. is is changingy for those who want to get news content and information? >> one of the real landmark events is when c-span cameras were ableff and they to use live platforms to broadcast what was happening in the house of representatives during the sit in recently. wet is the kind of thing will see all around the world, people being able to share what is happening and what is important right in front of them with people around the world who otherwise would not have any access or understanding of the events taking place. i think that is what we are beginning to see and it is happening much faster than anticipated. and we think it is empowering the people and opening up the process of governance and politics for people to see.

>> and return to the policy what regulatory issues, privacy issues, do you think we will be dealing with in the next administration, regardless of who wins in november? a reallyk there is full set of issues around technology that they will have to address, immigration is still very important to ensuring that we have the talent here in the united states to continue to build innovative project and drive economic growth and job creation. also, how the u.s. relates to other countries to ensure that the internet remains a global platform for everyone. important role arelay to make sure there not country-specific internet, we need to keep a global network alive in the way it is grown up today. and i will be a real challenge for the next administration. we see a lot of places around the world that are becoming more

closed, and they want to have a local internet so governments have more control. that is something where the u.s. government can play an important role in stressing the importance of an open internet. >> and looking in the history of facebook which was not around when we were a kid, where do you see your role in all of this? >> our role is to be the platform that facilitates civic discourse. in the last 24 hours we had more than 50 million people engaged in almost 60 million interactions about the republican convention, not just here in the u.s.. we are able to facilitate that engagement that allows people to talk about the democracy that they want, and the government they want. as aink that is important roll and we hope to continue. >> what numbers will we see on commercial or cable television? almost 200 million

people in the united states that are on facebook, and about 142 million registered voters. you can see that the volume of conversations that can happen on facebook is really significant. and we are very proud of that. in the first six months of this year, we had 89 million people talking about the election, and almost 2.9 billion likes comments and shares. you can see this really is the place for conversation is taking place, and that is important to our democracy. >> and a question about my question, if you do not like my question, what do you think? >> we have a number of innovative tools. and this is one i think you should be wary of. >> thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> back outside live here on c-span, we're looking at one of the many television networks and stations that has their sets in

the cleveland arena. is msnbc, and the chair is the former maryland lieutenant governor, former rnc chair. benny johnsonto of the independent general review to find out about the role the internet is playing at this year's convention. >> this is the first time we have done an interview sitting on a beanbag. so happy to provide this historic moment for c-span. >> however you played a role in this campaign? >>'s campaign has been fascinating, because it is the first on the internet is going to truly elect a president. authenticity is the currency of the internet. we have been able to work with both sides of the aisle to contentexciting, unique

that tells their personal story. believe are more personal assets. interpret human personalities and social media. >> give us the highlights for to follow onnt youtube. >> donald trump gave out lindsey graham's phone number, and that was a fascinating moment in history. nobody knew what to do with that. proposed an interview with a lindsey graham, but our interview included him showing how to destroy a cell phone. americans have, when they can suddenly not use their phone because everyone in the universe had it. we created a video with him that reached millions of americans,

showing how to destroy an old cell phone. that was really exciting. you just think, what with the candidates like to do? i do not note ted cruz personally, but he looks like the sort of guy that would like to eat bacon off of a machine gun. if you wouldhem like to cook bacon on a machine gun. and he said yes. so we cooked bacon on a machine gun with ted cruz and that was really fun. i do not know how much time he got. we worked with nine candidates across the aisles during martin streety, he went to wall and assaying for money on wall street to see how much he could raise for his presidential candidacy. it has been really exciting. and i think people running for president are realizing that you have to be human beings, people have to be able to think they can relate to you and know you. it is a fun moment in journalism to be able to tell those

stories. to ask you about the phone lindsey graham used, where is it now? >> to tell you the truth, it is at the smithsonian. smithsonian, in conjunction with politico, ask for historic items in a2016, and now it is museum, called the artifacts of 2016. these smashed up uses of the phone said behind glass. in some ways it is awesome. it broke a lot of glass, it broke a lot of rules. it is fun to be able to do that in an exciting new era in journalism. >> where are we at? a lot of digital technology, and you and everyone else reaching a whole new audience. moment, talkfor a

about how technology is changing so quickly, and how that is affecting the way candidates run for office, and the way people get news and ideas? >> we are currently on the floor on a beanbag right now, and there are arcade games kind of an eight punching bag and a giant jenga. the way i much like would what you do feel when you come to my house. i would want you to feel comfortable and at home. i think that is the way people want to communicate online, they want to be a -- feel comfortable and like they know you. i think journalism is headed to relate ability, a huge factor that plays to that. you see it in social media all the time. for our state that we built here, the moment in journalism is, feel comfortable. feel as though you know us and can come in and play our video games or do what you do in your friends house. and that is the way we like to tell stories. >> we may borrow these beanbags at c-span. one of the biggest c-span nerds of all time, i grew up in

iowa, we did not have cable, but we had c-span. so i would watch c-span growing up, late into the hours of the night. i himself obsessed with c-span content, you guys are such a resource. firsttell you, to get my c-span interview sitting on a beanbag chair, next to a blowup donald trump, it is the highlight of my life. >> thank you. >> donald trump campaign manager said today that the speech if you go back and read the speech it is pretty much online. talking about the 1960 eight acceptance speech by richard nixon at the miami convention. here it is. chairman, delegates to my fellowntion,

.mericans 16 years ago, i stood before the convention to accept your nomination as the running mate of one of the greatest americans of our time or any time, dwight eisenhower. [applause] >> eight years ago, i have the highest honor of accepting your nomination for president of the united states. [applause] >> i again, probably accept the

nomination for president of the united states. i have news for you, this time there is a difference. this time, we are going to win. [applause] >> we are going to win for a number of reasons. the first, general eisenhower lies ill in the hospital, but i have spoke with mrs. eisenhower on the telephone. she tells me his heart is with us. and she says there is nothing that he lives more for and there is nothing that would lift him more than for us to win in

november. and i say, let's win this one for ike. [applause] we are going to win because this great convention has demonstrated to the nation the republican party has the leadership that america needs. we are going to a statesman of the first rank who will be a great campaigner and wonderfully qualified to undertake the new responsibilities of the next vice president of the united states.

he is a man who shares my conviction and yours that when power has gone from the cities and states to the government in washington, d.c., it's time to have power go back from washington to the states and citizens of their country all over america. we are going to win because of the time that america cries out for the unity of this administration is destroyed, the republican party after a spirited contest for its nomination for president and vice president stands united before the nation tonight. i congratulate governor reagan.

i congratulate governor rockefeller. i congratulate governor romney. i congratulate all those who have made a hard fight they have for this nomination, and i know that you will all fight even harder for the great victory our party is going to win in november because we will be together in that election campaign. and a party that can unite itself with unite america. my fellow americans, most important we are going to win because our cause is right.

we make history tonight not for ourselves, but for the ages. the choice we make in 1968 will determine not only the future of america, but the future of peace and freedom in the world for the last 1/3 of the 20th century and the question we answer tonight, can america meet this great challenge. for a few moments, let us look at america. let us listen to america to find the answer to that question. as we look at america, we see cities enveloping smoke and flames. we hear sirens in the night. americans dying on distant battlefields abroad. we see americans hating each other, fighting each other, killing each other at home. as we see and hear these things, millions of americans cry out in anguish. did we come all this way for this? die inrican boys

normandy and korea and valley forge for this? listen to the answers to those questions. it is another voice, the quiet voice. it is the voice of the great majority of americans, the forgotten americans, the non-demonstrators. there are not guilty of the crime that plagues the land. they are black and white, nativeborn and foreign-born, young and old. they work in america's factories, they run america's businesses, they serve in government. they provide most of the soldiers who died to keep us free. they give drive to the spirit of america, they give lift to the american dream. they give steel to the back own -- backbone of america. they are good people. they work and save and pay their taxes. like theodore roosevelt, they

know this country will not be a good base for any of us to live in unless it's a good race for all of us to live in. and this i say to you tonight is the real voice of america. in this year, 1968, this is the message it will broadcast to the americans of the world. let's never forget, america is a great nation. and america is great because her people are great. with winston churchill we say, we have not journeyed all this centuries, across the oceans, across the mountains , across the prairies because we are made of sugar candy. america is in trouble today not because or people have failed, but because her leaders have

nailed and what america needs our leaders to match the greatness of her people. -- are leaders to match the greatness of her people. [applause] this great group of americans, forgotten americans and others know that the great question americans must answer by their vote in november is this, whether we shall continue for four more years the policies of the last five years, and this is their answer, and this is my answer to that question. when the strongest nation in the world can be tied down for four years in a war in vietnam with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can't manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest edition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented

lawlessness, when a nation has been known for centuries for equality of opportunity is torn by unprecedented racial violence , and when the president of the united states cannot travel aboard -- abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration, then it's time for new leadership for the united states of america. we've had enough a big promises and little action. has come for honest government in the united states of america. and so tonight, i do not promise the millennium and a morning. i do not promise we can eradicate poverty and and discrimination.

, a newo promise action policy for peace abroad, a new policy for peace and progress and justice at home. look at our problems aboard. do you realize we face the start that we are worse off than every area of the world than we were when president eisenhower left office eight years ago? that's the record. and there's only one answer to such a record of failure, and that is a complete couch painting of those responsible for the failures on the record. the answer is the complete reappraisal of america's policies in every section of the world. we shall begin with vietnam. there'sope in this room a chance the current negotiations may bring an honorable and to that war, and

we will say nothing during this campaign that might destroy that chance. but if the war has not ended, when the people choose in november, the choice will be clear. four years, this administration has had at its just those of the greatest military and economic advantage one nation has ever had over another in a war in history. for four years, america's fighting men have set a record for courage and sacrifice unsurpassed in our history. for four years, this administration has had the support of the loyal opposition for the objective of seeking an honorable into the struggle. never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so effectively. with all of this time and all of this sacrifice and all of this support, there is still no end in sight. then i say the time has come for the american people to turn to new leadership. that is what we offer to america.

and i pledge to you tonight that the first priority foreign-policy objective of our bet administration will to to bring an honorable and to the war in vietnam. we shall not stop there. we need a policy to prevent more vietnam. all of america's peacekeeping institutions and all of americans born commitment must be reappraised. over the past 25 years, america has provided more than $150 billion in foreign aid and that includes nations abroad. in korea and now again in vietnam, the united states furnished most of the money, most of the arms, most of the men to help the people of those countries defend themselves against aggression.

we are a rich country and strong nation, a populist nation. but there are 200 million americans and there are 2 billion people that live in the free world, and i say the time has come for other nations in the free world to bear their fair share of the burden of defending peace and freedom around this world. what i call for is not a new isolation alyssum, a new internationalism in which america enlists its allies and friends around the world in those struggles in which their interests are as great as ours. and now to the leaders of the communist world we say, after an era of confrontation the time has come for a narrow of negotiation. where the world superpowers are concerned, there is no acceptable alternative to

peaceful negotiation. ofause this will be a period negotiation, we shall restore the strength of america so we shall always negotiate from strength and never from weakness. [applause] as we seek peace to negotiations, let our goals be made clear. we do not seek domination over any other country. ideas,eve deeply in our but we believe they should travel on their own power and not on the power of our arms. we shall never be belligerent, but we shall be as firm in defending our system as they are in expanding there's. we believe this should be an era of peaceful competition, not only in the productivity of our factories but in the quality of our ideas. we extend the hand of friendship

to all people, to the russian people, to the chinese people, to all people in the world, and we shall work towards the goal of an open world, open sky. open cities. open hearts. open minds. the next day is here, my friends. this period in which we are entering, i think we will have the greatest opportunity for world peace but also face the greatest danger of world war of any time in our history. i believe we must have he's. -- peace. i do not underestimate the difficulty of this task. peace isf preserving greater than that of waging war and much more demanding. proud to have served in

an administration which ended one war and kept the nation out of other wars for eight years. [applause] it is that kind of experience and with that kind of leadership that america needs today and that we will give to america with your help. as we commit to new policies for america, let me make one further pledge. for five years, hardly a day has gone by when we haven't read or heard a report of the american flag being stood on, an embassy being stoned, a library being burned. each incident reduces respect for the united states until the ultimate insult inevitably occurred. and i say to you tonight when respect for the united states of america false so low that a

forthright military power like north korea will seize an american naval vessel in the high seas, it's time for new leadership to restore respect for the united states of america. [applause] that when weo note were a small nation, weak military and poor economically, america was respected. the reason was that america stood for something more powerful than military strength or economic wealth. the american revolution was a shining example of read them in action which helped the .magination of the world america is an example to be avoided and not followed. a president who isn't treated with respect at home will not be

treated with respect abroad. a nation which can't manage its own economy can't tell others how to manage theirs. if we are to restore prestige and respect for america abroad, the place to begin is at home in the united dates of america. -- states of america. my friends, we live in an age of revolution in america and the world. to find the answers to our problems, let us turn to a revolution. a revolution that will never grow old. the world's greatest continuing resolution, the american revolution. the american revolution was and is dedicated to progress. our founders recognized that the first requisite of progress is order. between no quarrel

progress and order, because neither can exist without the other. let us have order in america, the order which guarantees the right to dissent and provides the basis for peaceful change. tonight it's time for some honest talk about the problems in the united states. respect our course and those who serve on them, but their also recognize decisions have gone too far in weakening the peace forces against the criminal forces in this country. [applause] let those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws and judges who have the responsibility to interpret them be dedicated to the great principles of civil rights.

let them also recognize that the first civil rights of every american is to be free from domestic violence, and that right must be guaranteed. if we are to restore order and respect for law in this country, there's one place were going to begin. we are going to have a new attorney general of the united states of america. i pledge to you that our new attorney general will be directed by the president of the united states to launch a war against organized crime in this country. i pledge to you that the new attorney general of the united states will be an active belligerent against the loan

sharks and numbers racketeers that rob the urban poor in our cities. i pledge to you that the new attorney general will open a new front against the narcotics peddler's who are corrupting the lives of the children of this country. because my friends, let this message comes through clear from what i say tonight. .ime is running out the wave of crime is not going to be the wave of the future in the united states of america. we shall reestablish freedom here in america so that america can take the lead and reestablish freedom from fear in the world. to those who say that law and order is the code word for racism, there and here is the reply.

our goal is justice. justice for every american. if we are to have respect for law in america, we must have laws that deserve respect. just as we cannot have progress without order, we cannot have order without progress. as meek -- as we commit to orders tonight, let us commit to progress. we show light the lamp of hope in millions of homes across the land in which there is no hope today. that great light shining out from america will begin to be a beacon of hope for all those in the world who seek freedom and opportunity. my fellow americans, i believe historians will recall that 1968 marked the beginning of the american generation in world be alive int to america. just to be alive. is anve at this time experience unparalleled in

history. here's where the action is. 32 years from now, most of americans living today will celebrate a new year that comes once in 1000 years, eight years from now. in the second term of the next president we will celebrate the 200th anniversary of the american revolution. by our decision in this , wetion, all of us here will determine what kind of nation america will be on its 200 birthday. we will determine what kind of a world americans will live in in the year 2000. this is the kind of day i see for america, eight years from now. i see a day when americans are once again proud of their flag, when once again at home and as ad it is honored world's greatest symbol of liberty and justice.

a day when the president of the united states is respected and is offered this on her because it is worthy of her spect and worthy of honor. child inay when every this land regardless of his theground has a chance for best education that our wisdom and schools can provide and an equal chance to go just as high that this -- as this challenge will take him. i see a day when life in rural america attracts people to the country rather than driving them away. i see a day when we can look back on massive rake through's in solving the problems of slums and pollution and traffic which are choking our citizens to death. i see a day when our senior citizens and millions of others can plan for the future with the assurance their government is not going to rob them of their savings by destroying the value of the dollar.

i see a day when we will again have freedom from fear and america and freedom from here in the world. when our nation is at peace and the world is at peace and everyone on earth. those who hope, those who aspire , those who crave liberty will look towards america, the shining example of hope realized . this is theericans, cause i ask you to vote for. this is the cause i ask you to work for. this is the cause i ask you to commit to not just for victory in november, but beyond that to a new administration. the time when one man or a few leaders could save america is gone. need tonight nothing less than the total commitment and total mobilization of the american people if we are to succeed. government can pass laws, but respect for law can come only from people who take the law into their hearts and their

minds and not into their hands. government can provide opportunity, but opportunity means nothing unless people are prepared to see it here at our president can ask for reconciliation and the racial conflict that divides americans, but reconciliation comes only from the hearts of people. tonight therefore as we make this commitment, let us look into our hearts and let us look at down into the faces of our children. in the worldhing that should stand in their way? none of the old hatred means anything when you look down into , andaces of our children their faces with our hope, our love, and our courage. tonight i see the face of a child. he lives in a great city.

he's black or white. is mexican, italian, polish -- none of this matters. he's an american. ist child in that great city more important than any politicians promise. he is america. he is a poet, he's a scientist. he's a great teacher. he's everything we ever hoped to be an everything we dare to dream to be. he sleeps and trains as a child. yet when he awakens, he awakens to a living nightmare of poverty, neglect, and despair. he fails in school. he ends up on welfare. for him, the american system is one with thieves the stomach and starves the soul. it breaks his heart. in the end, it may take his life.

, this isns of children their prospect for the future. this is only part of what i see in america. i see another child tonight. he hears the train go by. at night he dreams of our away places where he'd like to go. seems like an impossible dream. he is helped in his journey through life. a father who had to go to work before he finished sixth grade, sacrificed everything he had so his sons could go to college. a gentle quaker mother with a passionate concern for peace quietly wept when he went to war but she understood why he had to go. a great teacher, a remarkable football coach, and inspirational minister encouraged him on his way. a courageous wife and loyal children stood by him in victory

and defeat. in his chosen profession of , finally millions worked for his success. youtonight he stands before , nominated for president of the united states. [applause] for most of us, the american revolution has been one -- won. what i ask you tonight is to help me make that dream come true for millions to whom it is an impossible dream today.

[applause] 108 years ago, the newly elected president of the united states, abraham lincoln, left springfield, illinois, never to return again. he spoke to his friends, gathered at the railroad station . listen to his words. today i leave. i go to assume a greater task. the great god which helped him must help me. without that great assistance i will surely fail. with it, i cannot fail. abraham lincoln lost his life, but he did not fail.

the next president of the united states will face challenges which in some ways will be greater than those of washington and lincoln. because for the first time in our nation's history, an american president will face not only the problem of restoring peace abroad, but at home. without god's help and your help, we will surely fail. but with god's help and your help, we shall surely succeed rid -- succeed. the long, dark night for america is about to end. the time has come. for us to leave the valley of despair and climb the mountain so that we may see

the glory of the dawn, a new day for america and a new dawn for peace and freedom in the world. [applause] >> a live look at the quicken loans arena in cleveland, site of the republican national

convention. donald trump tonight to accept his party's nomination for president. facebook has a location on site d we spoke to joel kaplan, facebook's vice president for global policy to get a tour of facebook's convention location. >> adjacent to the quicken loans arena and media row is progressive field, where the indians play but next to progressive field is this new pop-up location for facebook and joining us is joel kaplan, vice president of goebel policy for facebook. what's going on here? >> first up, welcome. we found over the last number of election that facebook has become the new town hall so people are coming to facebook to have conversations with voters, for candidates to have coverages with voters, for voters to raise questions to candidates and have conversations amongst themselves is. we've built a place where we can

help facilitate that dialogue. >> this is a sidewalk that is now a pop-up building so let's look at the second floor. you have a small studio. what's going on up there? >> we built a facebook live studio up there. one of the things new in this election is the ability for people to come onto facebook and broadcast live to their fans in real time. it's very popular. a very authentic way for candidates and people of the media to talk to the people who follow them. we've built a stull here for that and people love it. it's awe thenic and gives people backstage access to the convention. sornings it really is america's 21st century town hall? >> it is and turns out people love to see it and broadcast this way. if you're at home who's knot

able to come to cleveland, you can watch online. if you're a millennial, you can see what's happening and take part in the discussion. >> what's going on? >> this is our data touch screen, allows us to show in real time what's happening. discuss candidates, issues. for instance, right here we have our two major party candidates and if we touch on donald trump here, you can see over the last 30 days who's talkiersaon looks number of interactions he's had on facebook about him. almost 28 million different people in the u.s. talking about donald trump on facebook over 232 st 30 days with over million interactions. likes, shares. a high volume taking place on facebook. you can see the different issues.

these are the tom five most talked about issues over the last 30 days on facebook and you can see a lot of the things in the news are driving the conversation on facebook, as you would expect. we can keep going on this. this is pretty interesting. over time you can see with this we go.here you can see over time which of the issues have been the most talked about on facebook and if you go back and look at those states, you'll see certain things in the news that have blown up on facebook in terms of the conversation. it's a good way to capture what the conversation is as that town hall is taking place all over the country. >> i'm wondering how new all of this is. where were you four years ago and where is this all going? >> the thing that's new and innovative during this election

cycle is the use of live and the ability of candidates to talk to people on facebook. four years ago we had a very limited product on facebook. it was mostly at that time photos and comments. not only now do we have a very advanced video product but we have live and that has changed the way the conversation is taking place on facebook and i think it's changed the way the conversation is faking place around the country and around the world. >> you have a small replica of the oval office. >> this is a fun thing that instagram built. people can come and pose at our version of the oval office in miniature and post on facebook or instagram. we had dr. ben carson in here about half an hour ago sitting in here and doing an interview. it's fun and people love coming

and posting a picture of themselves in the oval office. >> we have moved upstairs this really does have a silicon valley feel here. >> that's the idea. we want to bring a piece of silicon valley to cleveland and give people an opportunity from cleveland to connect. >> what role do you think facebook is going to play in this election in terms of connecting with political activists with delegates and voters? >> i think the main role that facebook plays is we are an open platform that gives candidates, voters, activists, everybody interested in politics an -- a way to share their ideas and interact with people. >> how is your boss, mark zuckerberg, following the campaign? >> i think mark is really excited about the opportunities for people to connect on facebook and share their ideas about the campaigns. live, i think is the biggest invasion around this campaign

and -- innovation around this exchange and these elections. an opportunity for people to me -- connect real time in a very authentic became. it's changing the way politics takes place. >> not only changing the way politics takes place but you're part of the evolution in the media landscape. how quickly is this changing for those who want to get news, content and information? >> one of the real landmark events around that was when c-span cameras were cut off and they were able to use our live platform to broadcast what was happening in the house of representatives at a sit-in recently. that's the kind of thing we're going to see around the world. people seeing what's happening right before them who otherwise would have no idea of the events taking place. it's happening much faster than

anybody anticipated and we think it's really empowering the people and opening up the process of governance and politics for people to say. >> we've talked to you in the past on our communicators program. what regulatory, privacy issues, do you think we'll be dealing with in the next administration, regardless of who wins in november? >> there's a full set of issues around technology that the next administration will have to address. people is ed something we'll have to address. there are a number of issues in terms of how the u.s. relates to other countries to ensure that the internet remains a global platform for everyone. the u.s. has a really important role to play in ensuring we don't have the bulk -- we need

to keep the global network alive in the way it's grown to date. and that's going to be a big challenge for the next administration. we see a lot of places around the world that are becoming more closed and they want to have a global internet that the governments have more control over. i think that's something the u.s. government can do in stressing the importance of an open internet. >> you're part of that change, that growth that we're seeing. where do you see your role in all of this? >> i think our role is just to be that platform that facilitates civic discourse. just over the last 24 hours, we've had almost 15 million people engage in 16 million interactions about the republican convention that's taking place and that's just here in the united states. we're able to facilitate that engagement that allows people to talk about the democracy and the government they want and we think that's a really important role and hope to be able to

continue to play it. >> those numbers far exceed what we see on commercial or cable television. >> we have almost 00 million people in the united states on facebook and there are about 142 million registered voters. so you can see the volume of conversation that be happen on facebook is really significant and we're very proud of that. in the first six months of this year we had 89 million different people in the united states talking about the election and almost 2.9 billion likes, comments, shares about the election so you can see that this really is the place where conversation is taking place and that's really important to our democracy. >> finally, a question about my question as the vice president for global development of facebook. if you don't like my questions, what do you think? >> we have a number of innovative tools we can use when we're not happy and this is one i think you should be wary of.

>> thanks for your time. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> good afternoon. from the quicken loans arena adjacent to progressive field in downtown cleveland, ohio, a live view on this thursday. the fourth and final day of the republican national convention. a week that included anger among some delegates over the party rules monday, a speech by melania trump that included passages from michelle obama's 2008 convention address and last night's surprise, senator ted cruz, his one-time rival not endorsing the 2016 g.o.p. nominee. tonight donald trump will accept the republican nomination, try to outline the party, outline what a trump administration would look like. the theme, make america one again. here are some of the highlights the convention will gavel in just under two hours.

the speakers will include tennessee representi marsha black bush -- blackburn. governor mary fallin. republican national committee priebus.nce b -- jerry falwell. donald trump was in the hall monday to introduce his wife last night to shake hands with his running mate, indiana governor mike pence and then again this afternoon he was back inside the q to check out the podium and get a feel or what to expect this evening. he was joined by his daughter ivanka. also, the campaign chair of "the new york times" has been covering donald trump since he announced 13 months ago and he is joining us from the floor of the quicken loans arena.

thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you, steve. >> let me begin with the headline available at this hour. n.y.-time.com still speaking about senator ted cruz. he spoke to the texas delegation and was heckled. what happened? >> i've never seen anything like this at a convention delegation presque. -- breakfast. every morning the state delegations have breakfast together before they held to the convention. they're usually informal, upbeat affairs and they hear from a speaker or two. well, the speaker this morning for the text delegation was their junior senator, ted cruz. he came into the room and won applause but after the applause died down, it didn't take long for people to start yelling at him. demanding to know why he would not endorse donald trump. ter a while, cruz deviated

entirely and began taking questions. some folks who raised their hand and stood up, and others who demand answers. it was a vivid display of the kind of division that we're seeing here in week in cleveland. this is not a unified party and that was apparent last night when senator cruz was booed from the floor to the raptors -- rafters to have arena behind me and it was certainly apparent this morning at the downtown marriott here in cleveland when texans themselves heckled and yelled at their own senator for not endorsing the nominee. >> what was the senator's political nomination? why no endorsement and if no endorsement, why speak at this convention? >> i think he has deep concerns that trump himself is not a real conservative. i think that's borne out from their primary campaign and i don't think trump has taken steps in the last few months to prove to cruz that he is a real

conservative. is that cruz -- wants to run for president again. he thinks that trump is a pretender to the throne so i think that is the hesitation. the clakes is that if trump -- collation is that if trump does lose this fall, that cruz will attain a level of purity that others will not enjoy in the next primary. that cruz will be able to say i told you so, we should knot have sold our souls to donald trump. that assumes that trump loses. it also assumes that cruz himself does not suffer from anger if conservatives point the finger at him should trump lose this fall. that's the real risk is that cruz is betting that he's going to look better in 2020 having not endorsed trump but the risk there is that he could be faulted for a hillary clinton

presidency. i want to add real fast the cruz folks are no the totally ruling out a trump endorsement at some point. they still want to wait and see, but right now, given what he did last night. i'm not sure it would make any sense for him to give in and endorse after putting his neck out there like he did. >> it was a remarkable event and it's an our website. senator cruz speaking to the texas delegation earlier today. i want to share with jonathan martin just one of the moments from this morning. >> when i stood on that debate stage and they asked every candidate there, if you don't win will you support the nominee, i raised my hand and i raised my hand enthusiastically with full intention of doing exactly that and i'll tell thank you day that pledge was abrogated. the day that was abrogated was the day this became personal and

as i said at the time -- i'm not going to get into criticizing or attacking donald trump but i'll just give thank you response -- i am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father. [applause] and that pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander and attack heidi that i'm going to nonetheless come like a servile puppy dog and say thank you very much for maligning my wife and maligning my father. >> this morning, senator ted cruzith e texas delegation and susan swain is in the texas delegation. sues season >> hi, steve. let me introduce to you david of orange county texas. he's an attorney for the texas senate, a delegate for the state of texas and a cruz supporter.

you were asked at breakfast this morning, a lot of reporters who cover politics are -- politics are using words like remarkable to describe it. what was it like in the room? >> were -- we weren't sure what to expect. many people were wishing cruz would not come out and speak at the time. he did come out, explained why he did not endorse trump in very clear terms and took questions for about 15 minutes. >> what was the attitude among your fellow delegates after he was finished? >> it was fairly divide. there were cheers at times and boos at times. probably a majority were cheering out of respect for the senator. a lot of them still have a great love and commitment to him and for the principles that he stands for. >> so you're a supporter of this man. last night wurm surprised by his speech? >> i was not surprised that he did not endorse trump. i've followed cruz and supported him for a long time so we really

didn't expect that he would. there were some preferences that he would not have come in the first place but i think he came out and laid a very clear case of who we shouldn't vote for. we should vote for someone who will uphold our counties institution. >> the senator took a big risk last night and this morning. some are saying this sets him up for 2020 and some are saying this might be the end of his political career. what's your estimation of how this will play out for him? >> i think he'll take a short-term hit but i think long term people will say that he stuck to his values, especially down in texas. we appreciate that he took this bold move and although a lot of people have attacked him, most of the home folks that i've talked to are still going to be supporting him in his senate race and we'll see what comes after that.

>> you're leaving here with a trump-pence ticket and what are you going to do to support him in the fall? >> pence did an excellent job, one of the best speeches i've ever heard so he really sold me on that ticket and i'll be voting for him. for me, voting my conscious does voting for lusively donald trump. >> is everybody still getting along over the last -- 24 hours? >> we are. the jokes and roughhousing has got an little bit worse but we're still getting along. >> for your first convention, you picked a doozy to come to. >> yes, ma'am, i sure did. >> thank you for talking to c-span. >> thank you very much. >> let's go to jonathan martin of "the new york times" who was there this morning in your piece

along with patrick healey, you quote new jersey governor chris christie saying what ted cruz did last night was awful and selfish. what's happening inside the trump organization? >> before we pivot to last night, that sound bite you played, the -- i think the texas delegation breakfast history will remember as therer sile, puppy dog breakfast. steve: i think you're right. >> last night. allies of trump exploded that and ad not come around endorsed him. and there was great anger about that. and i think christie reflects that, as christie often does very bluntly. look, trump and cruz talked on the phone on mohammed -- monday. trump told him he wanted his support. cruz didn't promise he would.

the trump folks knew it wasn't a sure thing that cruz would come around and endorse him. they just wanted it and thought that he would. it didn't happen. teve: making a lot of news because of what he said about nato. what was your takeaway after reading that article and talking to david sanger. what does it put donald trump on foreign policy? >> one more example that donald trump is largely making it up as he goes regarding foreign policy. he holds first his america first beliefs. he does not want to see this country be the policeman of the orld and be taken advantage of but they can lead him to make some policy announcements on the fly that raise eyebrows across the globe. like when you say our commitment

to nato after seven years isn't all that solid you'd have to see whether or not those baltic states would have our help if -- with russia. when it's done at the presidential level it is shocking to a lot of people in this country and abroad. to me, it's an illustration of trump being trump. he doesn't quite understand the ramifications of what he's saying because he's never played that the level of politics. steve: so that story and of course what senator cruz did last night taking away from the attention we should be focusing on, on mike pence, the indiana governor, his speech last night accepting the vice president nomination. >> which was a pretty solid speech. he's a good speaker and it was a good delivery. amid all this unconventional convention activity, mike pence is a fairly traditional

politicians. that's what a vice presidential speech looks like. that's what a conservative speech at a republican convention looks like. it seemed very familiar if somewhat unfamiliar in this environment. steve: why do you think mike pence decided not to run for re-election, instead running with donald trump? >> i think he has burning national ambitions. he's had them for a long time and it's hard to say no to a national ticket when you have that desire. i've known mike pence for years and he's somebody who i think likes the national political scene quite a bit. enjoys going to governors kencheses. i think presiding over highway ribbon cuttings in indiana for the last four years was not as appealing as being vice president of the united states. and it was not a sure thing he was going to win re-election.

do i lose my gubernatorial re-election and become a civilian in 2017 or one -- run for vice president and become the vice president of the united states or be a vice president candidate who could then run for president myself in 2020? steve: apparently his poll numbers were down in his home state. >> mediocre. still probably would have been a favorite but not a significant one. it was not a lock, steve. steve: we're about an hour and 25 minutes away when the gavel comes down, the fourth and final night of this convention. a reminder, all of the speeches are on our website, you can check it out. we have a radio app also available and studiosen swain is on the floor with a veteran political reporter. susan: he is, indeed.

fred barnes is with me. your colleague, bill crystal's views about donald trump are pretty well known. where do you stand? >> i'm not never trump but i am never hillary. in my view, there's only one way in which hillary will not become president of the united states and that's if donald trump beat her in the national election. >> what has this convention done to help him? >> not as much as i'm sure as he'd hoped. flaps over his wife's imagine rich and i don't think ted cruz's speech helped him. trump has not been aggressive enough, proactive enough in seeking party unity. i've heard people propose things for him like showing up with his wife at the governor's mansion and asking if he could see john kasich, who certainly hasn't endorsed him either and hasn't

come to this convention. it's not the time of thing trump does. >> let's start with the speech tonight. how important is this for people that have been marginally followers and maybe even have an opinion and tuning in to see how he does? >> i think it's more important than it would be for a normal presidential candidate. more important than romney's was or almost anything i can think of, republican or candidate. he has to show people that he's presidential, that he's someone they can imagine, envision sitting in the oval office for four years or eight years. i don't think he's really achieveed that yet and maybe he can help himself on that tonight and there's still a problem of party unity. we've seen a good deal of disunity here. there's a good deal more unity than before the convention started but there's still a long way to go for trump.

his you concerned about position about nato or do you agree with him? >> i certainly don't agree with him. i think nato is one of the greatest institutions that the u.s. has played such an important part in creating. protecting europe all these years. soviet invasion of some kind. it's still a worry with put than charge but not the size of the worry it was for so many years. nato is something that i think trump need to learn more about and come to grips with. its survival and its effectiveness need to be preserved. >> watching the man is he a student? does he learn and apply what he learns? >> he doesn't appear to have learned as much on foreign policy as he should and it's an area where there are so many people around. the ones who have endorsed him. the former united nations

ambassador under president george bush, who would be glad to spend time and school him on foreign policy -- it's not something obviously a businessman is going to know about and even governors who don't have a foreign policy when they run for president had to learn a lot about foreign policy. i think trump needs to take out a few days and really learn a lot and he wouldn't say things that really disturb an awful lot of people, particularly in europe, by pretending that we can get rid of nato and everything will be fine. >> are you going to philadelphia next week? >> i'm not. this is the last convention i'm attending. >> yes your life? >> in your life. >> why do you say that? >> the first one i went to was in 19 6. i loved it. the best one i went to. gerald ford. ronald reagan for the nomination. they both gave speeches on this night, night four. ford won, he was the nominee,

but he invited rage on the go up and talk as well and reagan said yes and gave a shorter speech than ford's but it was a dazzling speech, include um -- and we learned what he was later for, elimination of nuclear weapons. i think i have attended enough and reported about enough of them. >> fred barnes, thanks for talking to c-span on your last convention. >> i love c-span. steve: susan, thank you. remarkable interview with fred barnes. let me go back to jonathan martin. 1976 combatant some parallels to what we will see in 2016 but a very different climate from a different year, 2 different candidates in terms of donald trump and ted cruz. is a greatnes reporter and has been doing this

for many, many years. steve my just think this is a week that typically is so well choreographed. these conventions have become kind of faux news events. there is no real spontaneity, no real news content. it is a stage exercise in public relations and usually pretty darn well staged by the parties, down to the minute. news broke out this week and it wasn't necessarily good news for donald trump. i'm not sure he gets the customary bounce out of this that candidates typically get it i think he will get some bounce out of this but i don't know how significant it will be. the information flow day in, day out, has not been the upbeat, positive, pro-trump information he would want. the best news for him is there had been some tough attacks about hillary so if you are skeptical about hillary, that would be reinforcement. steve: one of the great

storylines you have been writing about, too, the influence of donna comes children, and corey lewandowski, former campaign manager, fire to this summer, and what he had to say about paul manafort. what i is my question as we look at headline is just how much influence -- we will hear from ivanka tonight -- they had a big role in the selection of mike pence as the running mate. >> not just the running mate, but they are centrally involved in this whole campaign. they are full-time campaign operatives and surrogates, too, in a way we have not seen anything like in modern american politics. there are political professionals, yes, but the children are just as involved and are certainly in the room for every big decision. what does donald trump need to do and say tonight and where does his campaign go next? >> i think yes to pass an oval

office special test. yes to convince the american people that he is the to be president of the united states, that he is someone who would, yes, bring change to the country, but not the kind of change that would prompt fear and americans. and show a side of himself that people who know this familiar celebrity on the american landscape might not have got a glimpse of yet. somebody who has got compassion, somebody was got judgment, somebody who has temperament. what are the kinds of anecdotes that he can tell and his daughter can tell that will offer some reassurance about who this person is? it is not always easy to introduce a celebrity -- reintroduce a celebrity, but that is the challenge tonight. make somebody who is very familiar feel somewhat new and prompt a second look. steve: you have been talking to the trump campaign. who is helping him prepare for tonight's speech and what seem will he focus on? >> his children are very

involved, like i said, and paul manafort, campaign manager, this certainly a key player as well. look, i think it is going to be somewhat biographical but it is also going to be the kind of change he wants to bring to the country and how his life informs that kind of change. trying to wrap himself arb of american exceptionalism, that is his theme, america first, that is what you are going to hear tonight, how he is uniquely qualified to come as he put it, make america great again. steve: finally, let's look ahead to tomorrow and saturday. hillary clinton will be in florida. when can we expect her running mate announcement? >> at the latest on saturday, could be as soon as tomorrow good my reporting indicates that tim kaine, senator of virginia, has a slight advantage right now. tom. certainly still

in the next come agriculture secretary and former governor of iowa. kaine's seat would be up in november 2017 if he does vacate the sea to become senator and the risk for democrats is that while the democratic governor of virginia could appoint a democrat to fill the seat, that would be for one year. democrats could lose that seat after only one year of the clinton presidency, potentially altering the balance of power in the senate. steve: jonathan martin of "the new york times." his work available online at nytimes.com. from the floor of the quicken loans arena, we will check your recording today and tomorrow. thank you for being on c-span. >> thank you, steve, thank you for being on c-span. steve: a familiar face to the c-span audience is in the georgia delegation. susan swain. susan: yes indeed, i'm here with former house speaker newt gingrich good mr. speaker, there is quite a crowd.

has it been like this the whole convention? yes kidrich: crisscrossing the country you get to meet a lot of people. susan: last night after ted cruz you made some last-minute adjustments to your seat. -- your speech. mr. gingrich: i think the delegates were very offended. i don't think anybody quite anticipated how angry the delegates would be. we thought you had to get closure on that topic before you could move on and talk about other things. they asked me if i would do something to put closure and i think i did. susan: how did you feel up there at the podium watching this crowd and were you able to focus on what you wanted? mr. gingrich: oh, sure. we worked a great deal on the speech i gave last night and i noticed it already has over 200,000 views, for example, on facebook. it is very serious talk about

national security and the threat to america. i was prepared to focus on that could once we got done cleaning up ted cruz's mess. susan: what does mr. trump have to do tonight with his speech? mr. gingrich: two things. he has to communicate a biography that would allow you to believe he would be president, and a vision of the future that convinces you he should be president. does the job i think she will do in introducing him, he will leave here with mike pence and a very strong ticket and a lot of momentum. susan: how do you plan to spend the fall? mr. gingrich: trying to be hopeful anyway i can. susan: we be campaigning? mr. gingrich: campaigning, writing, being on television. susan: i know you were on the short list of vice presidential candidates. could use yourself in the administration? mr. gingrich: i could be the senior planner if they want to fundamentally rethink how is work in washington. susan: and how are the relations

with congress going? mr. gingrich: i think pence is a huge asset. pence has great ties to congress, great ties to the other governors, and is a bridge builder between and the traditional party. susan: what was the very first political convention you attended and how does this from compare? mr. gingrich: 1984, reagan's renomination. they are very, very different. 1980ughter was a page in in detroit when reagan was selected. this resembles the emergence of reagan more than any convention since then. susan: thank you for talking to c-span. mr. gingrich: always good to talk to c-span. steve: former house speaker with susan's rent, and bob to sack of desktop --bob cusack of "the hill newspaper is with us. >> great to be here, steve. steve: how close was he to being donald trump's running mate?

>> there were three finalists. trump and pence seem to be getting to know one another and the family of donald trump seem to have a big influence in him taking mike pence. newt gingrich was very close to being picked. if donald trump wins, definitely look for newt gingrich to have a large role in his administration, whether that is the white house or special role for the -- or the cabinet. steve: hill.com did a statement last night right senator cruz and his appearance before the text delegation, "stunning, amazing." >> i think ted cruz's speech last night was one of the most memorable things you'll ever see at a political convention, hands down. first of all, the fact that you have someone give a primetime address is not supported the nominee was awfully unique.

donald trump's campaign has been unique. and a lot of people felt, well, maybe if he invites ted cruz it will be a leave of faith and ted cruz will opt to endorse donald trump. the fascinating thing was the text of the speech went out to the media about 45 minutes before he delivered the speech. but all the media was still thinking, maybe this is a head fake. maybe he will deviate from the prepared text and not say "vote your conscience," but "vote for donald trump." he did not. the mood of the convention really changed and the convention goers who were applauding his early lines on freedom and conservatism started to turn against him. i don't think it was terribly surprising. terribly risky decision by ted cruz, because i think that if ted cruz is going to run in 2020, or 2024, for president, he is going to need donald trump supporters, looking at anecdotal evidence, looking at social

media, a lot of trump supporters say they will never forget this and never vote for ted cruz. remember, i know that ted cruz and donald trump have been rivals and bitter rivals down the stretch. for a while they had a bromance. why? ted cruz was saying nice things because he thought donald trump would implode at some point and he wanted to one-on-one with donald trump and basically got that with john kasich also in the race, but donald trump kept winning. why did ted cruz not endorse donald trump? personal. remember, donald trump one after ted cruz's wife and his father. this was high drama last night and very newsy. as you know, steve, these conventions can be very scripted. this was not scripted at all and that is what made it so riveting. steve: in fact, you and i were trading e-mails last night and you were watching some of the e-mails we were doing the texas delegation this morning in covering the breakfast and many people said, you made a pledge,

you made a promise, you did not keep that promise. touch on what you are hearing last night and today. >> when you guys were interviewing members of the texas delegation to get their reaction to what ted cruz did, remember, ted cruz in texas is revered by the right, and they were upset with him, very upset with him. his home ted cruz won state, unlike other contenders like marco rubio, who lost a lot of. i think that in talking 24, roughly, hours later, the trump campaign is not pleased with him and we talked to roger stone, who was basically giving some curses at ted cruz. they didn't like the way he went about it. remember, if you look at the big picture, why did donald trump pick mike pence? it was a move to shore up the base, the conservative base that has been skeptical of donald trump. they invited ted cruz, hoping that he would say some nice things about donald trump community maybe give an endorsement, if not a wholehearted endorsement, attended endorsement. they get the -- tepid

endorsement could they get the cruz endorsement, and newt gingrich and other conservatives like the pick of mike pence. i'm sure gingrich would like tb takes. b for that game plan fell apart whene picked ted cruz refused. to endorse. when you have the melania plagiarism controversy, the speechwriter took the blame. donald trump did not accept her resignation. conversely, donald trump knew what ted cruz was going to say and he let him speak at the convention. you could have said no-- he could have said no, he is not speaking. he said let him speak. thetor roger wicker was on morning shows this morning and said that was gracious. that is the theme, to smooth out the hard edges around donald trump. ivanka trump will be doing with that in her speech and the kids

have given very effective speeches i think they will be on the campaign trail a lot fall. steve: bob dusek, i want to come back to this invention, day four, down from tonight, but let's talk about one of the senate races that will determine whether or not mitch mcconnell is the republican leader in the majority or whether chuck schumer becomes the majority leader in the u.s. senate, and the race with senator portman and the tough reelection battle against former governor ted strickland. we will show some ads in a moment. summarize not only does race but here in cleveland what you are expecting in the next months. >> this is a tossup race. senator rob portman is respected on both sides of the aisle in washington. he worked in the bush administration. cats are, former governor, popular governor of ohio. these ted strickland, former governor, popular governor of ohio. these are two heavyweights going at it. democrats feel like they have the advantage because donald trump is at the top of the ticket. of course, if you don't win ohio

as a republican, you are not going to in the president, history shows. this is a race where there is going to be a lot of money put in, whether it is outside money or inside campaign money. this race could determine whether the senate, as you said, flips to democrats or stays with republicans, and overall, rob portman has been doing events. yes and asked questions a lot about the donald trump campaign. unlike john kasich, governor of ohio, he has been engaging with the media for the most part. she did have one press conference this week. he didy did have-- kasich have one press conference this week. this race is one to watch. steve: this is an ad by the portman campaign and a new ad by the tester can campaign. [video clip] >> tester can set cleveland got more than their fair share when he was governor. he's right. more than our share of lost jobs. under strickland, greater cleveland lost 76,000 jobs.

>> rob portman, he summers in georgetown and winters in capitol hill. he is the least known man in ohio. in, don't always have been but when i do, it is to let donald trump reshape the supreme court for generations. >> rob portman, the least known man in ohio. >> see you in washington, my friends. steve: interesting. focused on avt issues, but the personality, and indicative of what we are seeing stage national between hillary clinton and donald trump. >> we have talked to republicans about donald trump and his affect on down-ballot races. remember, hillary clinton is not the most popular figure either. they say that if you look at the data, and if you look at these tight races from it is not like they are down 15, 20 points. i think that is going to be a big part of the democratic

strategy, because, steve, when you have the polls showing that president obama's uptick in popularity but 710 americans think the country is going the wrong way, that is an advantage for republicans. senate candidate and house candidates on the democratic side will be focusing on donald trump and his controversial statements. i don't think that changes. whether that will work remains to be seen, but republicans say they will be talking in some of these districts and states, hillary clinton is not that popular, especially in the wake of the fbi investigation and comey's pressmes conference where he called her extremely careless with kospi information. this will be a negative campaign at the top and who will -- it will be whittling down ballot races. steve: the comments by paul manafort on ohio governor john kasich, how does that impact the race? for think it is trouble republicans because they are not

united and usually the party that is more united wins. this year without a doubt that is going to be the democrats and hillary clinton. but it has been a very unconventional year. no one thought donald trump be the nominee. no one thought hillary clinton would have to fight until the very bitter and against bernie sanders. but the fact that manafort is going after kasich and there is a report that the truck campaign offered the vp job to kasich, and kasich is a popular figure and head-to-head with hillary clinton does well, number one among republicans and does better than trump, that is a reason this offer was apparently made. i think the fact that they are fighting is not a good thing and a popular governor, did win his state of ohio, the only state he won in the presidential primary process, it is not a good thing in a must win state for republicans. ,teve: bob cusack editor-in-chief of "the hill" newspaper, stay with us.

we welcome our listeners on c-span radio and check out the c-span app as well. the gavel coming down in about an hour, day 4 of the convention. --roductions by kasich trump introductions by ivanka trump. joining us back on the floor is susan swain with the indiana delegation and a familiar name. susan: indeed, steve. not quite in the indiana delegation but we can see it from here and there are people making signatures on at sign. at sign is going to the smithsonian. >> correct. they called yesterday and asked if they could have it. susan: you told me off mike that you are an enthusiastic supporter of donald trump as much as the recovery is that correct that as much as he ago. is that correct -- as much as a year ago. is that correct? >> indy. first grandchild was born and i got online and i ordered a "make america great" onesie for her.

susan: walk us through the pence family and when you were first told by your brother-in-law that he was under incineration for the position. >> well, i mean, we heard from the newspapers that he was a finalist, and then -- susan: didn't know before that? >> no, no, no, no. and then it was friday started breaking news, or maybe thursday? -- andny's publications all the news publications -- we didn't know. but in my opinion he was the right candidate because he was certainly the most capable, as far as he has the most experience in congress come a gubernatorial experience. i believe it would happen. but never dreaming that he would join the trump ticket and i would be voting on him is surreal. susan: casting a ballot for your brother-in-law. >> couldn't even talk tuesday night. just beyond words, and i think

beyond.e family is last night he knocked it out of the park and we were crying again could a lot of kleenex on our seats. susan: what has it been like for the family? has the phone been ringing off the hook? >> i've heard from a lot of people i haven't heard from for many, many years. i'm sure it is overwhelming for them. even the cousins and the nieces and nephews, i'm sure we are hearing -- i am and i know my kids certainly are. my husband is the oldest, gregory is the eldest brother. i know we are getting telephone calls from people we have not heard from in years. susan: where do you live? >> it's a good thing. susan: where do you live? >> we live in clumps, indiana. susan -- columbus, indiana. susan: what you plan to do in the fall? >> i plan to do everything i can to get the word out and help michael on the trump ticket.

i truly believe they will win. susan: overall, you have a unique experience, to be sure, but this is your first political convention. tell people what it is like being here. >> well, i've been a state delegates of times, but honest to gosh, i was so inspired by mr. trump that in january i applied and i thought to my volunteers much for the republican party, done fundraisers and that kind of thing. i've got to be a delegate, because i know he is going to get this. it has been such a group of enthusiastic, colorfully dressed -- everybody has fun outfits, some people do. it has just been a really positive experience and i think it is work. you are doing something for our country. but yet you are having fun while you were doing it. susan: thank you very much for talking to us. what a week for the pence family. >> and i love your station and thank you for everything. steve: and of course, we saw governor pence's mom on the

podium last night. we are back live at the quicken loans arena, built in the 1990's by the way. it is also adjacent to progressive field. it is the home of the nba champions, the cleveland cavaliers. king james, lebron james bringing the championship to the city for the first time in more than five decades. there is a plaza that also includes a carnival-like atmosphere for those in attendance. a lot going on on the final day of the republican convention. we are joined by bob cusack of "the hill" newspaper who was on the floor of what is known as the q. we're not spending a lot of time talking about right pence -- mike pence of the running mate because of all the stories happening. how does that impact the trump -pence ticket? >> i don't think was ideal because this is the first time most of america was being introduced to mike pence. mike pence come as you know, steve, has been around politics a long time, served in the house for 12 years, very media savvy.

took on the bush and minister jean no child left behind any medicare prescription drug benefit. he was a conservative who took on john boehner and the leadership battle and lost and badly. later, john boehner invited him to be part of the leadership. this was an opportunity to --sent himself and a fine define mike pence before the democrats do, at least on the big stage. no doubt mike pence was overshadowed by the ted cruz's speech and controversy. overall, mike pence is not going away. he will be doing a lot of media availability. also, donald trump did not pick someone to overshadow him. mike pence from his speech was solid. it was electrifying. he had self-deprecating -- it wasn't electrifying. he had self-deprecating jokes. but none of the pundits were really talking about mike pence, they were talking about ted cruz . that is something going forward that the trump campaign will

have to define him come get him out more and do a lot of media interviews. he is very good with the media, he has relationships with the media. hill, heas on capitol would talk to reporters in the speaker's office right outside the house are while other members were scared of the media. mike pence is not. steve: is paul manafort firmly in control of this campaign? manafort, think paul one of the criticisms that has --n justified of manafort personal computers brought some stability to the trump campaign, which they needed. however, the melania plagiarism controversy wasn't handled well. that should have been a one-day story. but first reince preibus was saying summary should be fired. manafort said it was no big deal, 93% of the speech was fine. it dragged into a second day. the tuesday speeches were not riveting. not a lot of news there. manafort didn't put that controversy today on to --

didn't put that controversy to bed until 48 hours later. speechwriter, she made a mistake, she apologized, she offered her resignation. that was the issue. allowing the issue of ted cruz to speak at the convention when he didn't say he was going to endorse. there was no trading back and deal -- yout of the can speak but you have to endorse him. in the campaign there is always going to be criticism, but some republicans felt like manafort could've handled some things differently this week. steve: there is a bigger crowd inside the q then there was last night at this time, bob cusack, and a lot of people outside in the brazilian adjacent to the quicken loans arena. give us a sense of how this has unfolded in terms of the excitement, the crowds, who you have been talking to. >> well, i've been in the rain almost every day i was walking around before coming over to c-span to talk with you, and there is an electricity in this

q arena. it really was not there the last few days, even though donald trump has ended up talking maybe perhaps briefly each day, and one day on video. there is more excitement. there is a lot of buildup for any nominee's speech. this is going to have to be a crescendo for donald trump good yeah beasley had a grand entrance when he was introducing -- he obviously had a grand entrance when he was introducing melania trump. i thought that was very entertaining. a lot of people criticize it but a lot of people thought it was just the right note and got people excited. whether you like donald trump or don't like donald trump, you are watching this speech tonight. that is a concern for democrats could what are the ratings going to be for the democratic convention? how many people are going to be watching it? these are going to be too scripted, too boring? there have been some stumbles from the trump campaign this week. it is how you close, not how you start.

people are not going to remember the melania controversy. they will remove or ted cruz. but the lasting memory could be ivanka's speech, which will be very strong. she is a great public speaker. a lot of pressure on donald trump. he is a clutch player. 20 comes down to the stretch in sports -- when it comes down to the stretch in sports, he nails the putt. is a big offer. more has never been pressure on and then there is tonight especially in the wake of these controversies. he cannot hit a double come he has got to hit a home run, and if he hits a homerun, they can get a decent if not really good convention bounce. that is what all of this is about to they want to bounce in the polls after this. if the speech is really good tonight, hillary clinton tomorrow will announce her vp picture taken thunder -- vp pick to take the thunder away from the speech. steve: all your work is on

thehill.com.have you done media on the second level the parking lot? >> i have come with xm satellite radio. it is quite a zoo. you see a lot of familiar faces and a lot of guests over there. i saw john bolton being interviewed, a lot of political types on conservative talk radio as well is just normal radio. i've never seen quite a scene there were you have so many people and basically what is a parking lot that has been adjusted for radio people. it is a little warm in there. you have to take your jacket off when you go. quite a scene, as you know. steve: what is remarkable about that, bob cusack, is the fact that there are so many new layers of media out there. as we look inside quicken loans, we have fox, msnbc, cbs, abc, the so-called legacy media, but over there, much more nimble, much more gritty, try to reach a different audience. >> i saw a lot of people doing

facebook lives, social media, snapchat. it is a very different type of media environment from what we saw years ago. i've been to every convention on the republican and democratic side's 2004. you would see mounds of print newspapers. you are not seeing that at this convention because it is all about online. yes, we come out and print. we had one print issue. but the focus is on line -- is on online and social media. everybody's talking about the demise of the media, and certainly the media has to adapt to what people want to but at the same time you are seeing these new upstart media companies that are doing things refreshing and media companies like us have to keep up with that. that is why we have a social media team, a video team, and events team. you have to be constantly be evolving in media or you will be gotten. we have just received a

couple of excerpts from donald trump's speech, bob cusack. "i have a message for all of you, that crime and violence that today affect our nation will soon come to an end come on genera 20, 2017, -- on january 20, 2017, safety will be restored." reminiscent of what richard nixon said in 1968 when he accepted his party's nomination. >> there definitely are similarities and recently donald trump has said "i am the law and order candidate." some pundits think that is risky but clearly they don't think it is a risky move. they think that america can whether it is the racial unrest roiling the country, the terrorist attacks in the united states and abroad that seemed to be happening more and more, that americans are scared. when politicians on both sides of the aisle, they use fear as a way to attract voters, and donald trump is saying, listen, the way our leadership, barack obama is not defeating isis, he

notes that obama said isis is a jv team, and tried to tie the foreign policy of obama to hillary clinton. that is, i think, going to be a big theme, i am going to keep you safe. and at least when you go back to the george w. bush administration and post-9/11, the 2004 election, that was the message, national security. if you look at the polls, hillary clinton is up on a number of issues -- women's rights, immigration -- but when you are dealing with combating terrorism, donald trump does have the advantage there and he needs to make that bigger margin. those are the themes he is going to stress. she also has to have an uplifting statement -- he has to have an uplifting statement. had negative politics between donald trump and hillary clinton and that is not going to stop. but you need to attack and uplift and that is a hard thing to do. they are working on a speech and maybe they are amending it as they go in. that is something he has to do a

lot in the speech. one of his visors said this morning, michael cohen, the lawyer, said it will be less than 30 minutes. i doubt that. he has a lot to do in the speech. he is a good or a tour. good he is a good -- orator. when he speaks, people pay attention. he has many challenges and hesiod to the challenge? steve: crime, immigration, trade, the economy him and hillary clinton. let me read you another excerpt from just released minutes ago from the trump campaign. "america is far less safe and the world is less stable when obama made the decision to put hillary clinton in charge of our policy -- foreign policy. i'm sure it is a decision he truly regrets. her bad instincts and judgment on something pointed out by bernie sanders, are what cause many of the disasters unfolding today." obama regretsnk

putting her us secretary of state and obama is going to be at the democratic convention next week in philadelphia and he has attacked a donald trump repeatedly, going back to january in the state of the union address, and a lot since then. barack obama does not want to on donald trump succeed him a lot of the things that he did, notably obamacare, could be repealed if he wins. i don't think obama regrets at all picking secretary of state hillary clinton. however, hillary clinton needs to have a message on what she did at the state department. republicans talk about benghazi a lot, they talked about it a couple nights ago. to have the message, i did this and this and this. it is not an easy thing to say when you are dealing with very -- foreign policy gets very complicated. but she needs an overall arching message because we know what donald trump's slogan is, make america great again. good slogans a very because donald trump's rivals have been talking about it during the primary and hillary clinton is talking about it saying, well, america is already great.

but what is hillary clinton's overarching message? she needs one. , a message from we've not seen that from hillary clinton. maybe she will roll it out next week in philadelphia. one other excerpt from the speech -- maybe his closing sentence, we are not sure. "to every parent who dreams for their child and childhood dreams for their future, i say these words to you tonight. i'm with you, i will fight for you, and i will win for you." >> those are effective lines. we have seen the line "i'm with you" recently over the last month, kind of a trial balloon he has thrown out. obviously, he likes it. that is what you have to do in politics. it is not about i, it is about you, it is about we. we are in this together. that is what you want to capitalize on. i think you will see a lot of that. he has got to be sincere, he has got to be genuine, he has got to i i'm going to protect

your children. ad from hillary clinton that goes through all the ctroversial comments donald trump is at, including person, while children are watching. so children are certainly becoming a part of this campaign and the message because obviously, a lot of people have children and are thinking about their children's future. steve: we are going to come back to you in just a moment. back to the floor and susan swain. going toeve, we are possibly discussion of serious issues to look at some serious buttons. todd, arkansas delegate, and mike has been coming to conventions since 1976. how many buttons do you own? >> right now about 1500. susan: these are very much this year. how do you go about collecting? >> sometimes we have the delegation and the delegations attending will have them come and we swap, and i have the

unique kansas button and we swap something that is unique that you are not buying from the street. susan: what do you do with those buttons at home? >> keep them. some of them are mounted. i keep them as mementos and share them with family and friends and let them see. memories and the experience of each one of them, people you have met over the years. susan: first convention was 1976 in your home state, right? >> kansas city, missouri, but close enough. susan: what keeps you coming back? why do you like this? >> i have been in the political stuff since i was five years old, putting up signs for bob dole in 1960. my parents were very involved and might father was state insurance commissioner in kansas and work there for 38 years and it was what we did. every political cycle, going through neighborhoods and putting up signs and going to political rallies and that type of thing. just been it, and my kids are the same. i have my daughter with me at this convention. trying to get her down on the floor couple times.

susan: all those conventions from which has been your favorite? >> probably going to saint g 92, the first time i was elected a say 9092,-- owing to the first time i was elected a delegate, and i was a delegate for george bush. susan: how do you feel that bob dole is the only patriarch of the party to support donald trump? >> i have a dole button from the 1996 campaign and he is a quick wit and says "hold onto it, i might run again." [laughter] susan: you were a delegate for ted cruz. >> correct. susan: how do you feel about his chances in the fall? >> i think it is a great ticket. donald trump has renewed interest from like what we saw in 1980 and 1976 was one of. mike pence is a great selection and it was pleasing to midwest

farmers and kansas is a big agriculture state as well. i think they will be really great. i have a trump sticker on my car and i have for quite a while and we are on board. susan: we are talking to mike todd on the floor, aka button man. he has been to conventions since 1976. thank you for your time. >> appreciate it, thank you very much. steve: susan swain, thank you. bob cusack, i got to tell you, i'm not seen that many buttons in years past in the c-span library. >> those are great, and those are collectors items and they can be very valuable. the number one thing people can remember as far as mementos, when you see a lot of them white them is the "red or -- is the red or white "make america great again" trump hats. a lot of analysts -- i'm not one

of them -- but they collect these mementos. steve: keep them, that is the other issue. , we talked about the ohio senate race. let's talk about the house. on "is makers -- "newsmakers" this sunday, our guest is greg walden. he talked about the challenges and opportunities with the donald trump at the top of the ticket. the full interview airs at 10:00 eastern time. here is a portion of the interview. [video clip] >> who controls the senate? chuck schumer mitch mcconnell? all of those dynamics will be at play here, too. if we are able to hold onto the senate, and it looks more and more likely that will be the case, certainly with senator rubio running again in florida making a big difference. rob portman is doing much better in ohio. we are seeing them strengthen up right now. if we hold the senate, we will hold the house. if we have donald trump in the white house, certainly mike pence as a former house member,

and myself as a current one, mike is a good friend, he is a terrific leader. i think you will see them coalesce around paul ryan as speaker because he is an idea generator, policy wonk, and i mean that in the right sense of the words. we want to get america back on the right track. waldencongressman greg is our guest on c-span's "newsmakers" program. he talked to us earlier today. the senate race could be indicative of what happens in the house. >> chairman walden is right. if the republicans hold onto the senate, no doubt they will hold on to the house. republicans are defending twice the amount of seats. democrats winning the senate will be very difficult, but he is right that marco rubio deciding to run for election was a big thing for republicans. mitch mcconnell was urging rubio to rethink his decision not to run and they cleared the field

and rubio is now the favorite to retain the sea. that doesn't mean they will keep control of the senate. greg walden is in his second term as head of the campaign arm in the house. in the last cycle they did well, they expanded their majority, nothing of the biggest majority in eight decades. democrats need 30 seats to pick up the house. i was talking to a democrat recently who would know. basically said, it is going to be tough to get a 30 seats, but maybe we can significantly cut into their majority. it was interesting, steve, about a year or so ago hillary clinton was saying we are going to cut into the republican majority into the house. that was the time when nancy pelosi was saying, oh, yeah, we can with the house. since then hillary clinton is a we are going to win house and we are going to win the senate. when you go to donors, you don't want to just say we will cut into the majority. we are going to win the house. that is i you get donors fired up. interesting, greg walden is the only representative from oregon

who is a republican. iran into him last night and donald trump has recently said he will do very well in some blue states, including oregon. i said, remember, donald trump is going to win oregon, and he smiled. if you look at the convention floor, usually the purple states are in the very front on the floor, like virginia or ohio. here you have states like new york, donald trump's home state, connecticut, and you have all these other -- california is also in the front. you have these blue states -- new jersey is another 1 -- that are way up in the front. these delegates are not used to sitting way of in the front, and that is right on the trunk is saying i can't -- that is where donald trump is saying i can pick one of these states and i will when the red states. if you look at states like new york and telephone, he is way behind. -- new york and california, he is way behind. steve: looking at the

demographics, ohio is up to the site, because ohio governor john kasich won that state. as you look at the electoral map, what donald trump needs to do, and he redefined the map and pick up the states like pennsylvania, like ohio, like rick scott -- like wisconsin, like michigan? what impact with that have on house races? >> i was doing the math. >>donald trump has been losing florida. but what if he lost florida but won pennsylvania? republicans have not won pennsylvania in quite some time. he is no inequity hillary clinton. -- usenet and a quick hillary clinton. got to north carolina, virginia. he is going to have to possibly win states like iowa and new hampshire and colorado. he is behind there. upendnot going to the entire map but he can put some states that had not been in play before, especially pennsylvania, which was kind of

purple more blue. the demographics favor the democratic party. i think republicans, in order to get to the white house, will have to win ohio, virginia, north carolina, and florida. that way, if they do that then they win most of the other tossup states and they don't have to win pennsylvania. they don't have a lot of states to play with. a lot more waste for democrats to get to -- ways for democrats to get to 270 than republicans. but who knows? this is a very unconventional year. maybe the debates change the whole thing. anything can happen, as you know, steve. steve: in fact from 110 days before election on november 8. stay with us one more moment. let's go to susan swain with a focus on one of the battleground states. susan: yes, steve. bob cusack knows our next interview subject. she is a national political reporter for "the pittsburgh

tribune-review" but her work also appears in "the hill." nice to meet you. i was reading one of your columns. this is not your grandfather's nor your fathers convention. why not? >> well, typically these offense are scripted, very perfect, and you have traditional types of candidates, mostly elected officials talking about policy, and where to take the country forward. this has been anything but that. -- you there have been had speaker ryan, mitch mcconnell, other elected officials, jeff sessions, joni ernst of iowa. but you also had his children doing probably the most effective job of telling the story of who their father is. the wraps on mitt romney in 2012 is people walked out not knowing who he was. there was no real biographical story where people could testify

to his character and what he accomplished and how that impacted their lives. i talked to a lot of delegates and some of them who are maybe cruz supporters or rubio supporters says, look, that the the deal over the edge for me. i'm wasn't quite sure who this guy was good they get up there and talk and you can tell by the character of the children that he has been a good father. and that is a good touchstone for delegates who are unsure about him. susan: people in our business are all asking, is the party going to be unified coming out of this convention? what is your take walking around talking to people? >> they are really excited. they are excited to get home and get the party started, more or less. these other people that make a phone call -- these are the people that make a phone calls and get the volunteers together and go out and convince neighbors and you peer-to-peer contact, and they do it also with social media, not just with offense but with social media and community events.

you need these people energized. while the media has -- our business sometimes has a harder time figuring out what motivates a delegate, and what excites them. they are looking for a polished event. people's lives aren't polished. we look at our lives, it is sort of chaotic at times and sometimes we have fights with her family. -- our family. and the things we want in our hians, "thehe kardas bachelor," where there is a drama and chaos and you don't know how it is going to end. it is what i consume, it is what i live, i'm excited, i'm going to go vote. susan: it's focus -- you also write about the importance of the battleground states with the ticket. that is quite obvious. let's talk about ohio and pennsylvania starting with pennsylvania, your home-based.

how does the senate race play into what happens with the ticket in the state? >> first, pennsylvania hasn't voted for republicans is 1988. george h.w. bush was the last time. every successive candidate that has run into state that is a republican has not won the state. george w. bush was able to win the presidency. republicans don't necessarily need pennsylvania to win. democrats do. but i think one of the things that people have been missing about pennsylvania is the state republican.4% more since 1996, than any other state, like virginia and colorado and arizona. they have been trending away from that. if you look at all of our down ballot seats, 13 congressional districts out of 18 that are held by republican the largest majority in both states in the state hasn't state senate, our

health by the log -- are held by the largest majority since 1920 by republicans. and we have a republican u.s. senator. there is 67 counties in the state but there is -- you should not an eye on 10 that have either had enough people shown up for republicans in the past couple elections, that keep inching up, keep flipping. in 1996 bill clinton won with 28 counties in pennsylvania. won012, barack obama with 11. there are counties that have flipped republican that just need to go up by 1500 votes in 10 counties and trump could win. he has been transmitting to everyone that he is going for this state. this morning the delegation was -- had a big surprise at the delegation breakfast, where mike

pence showed up. they were off of their feet, they were so excited. they are looking at this guy is taking the mantle from ted cruz as the that he is like the next ted cruz in terms of holding that base. he auditioned for them last night at the convention speech but he also did this morning. by bringing pence to the breakfast, they are telling everyone, hey, we really are staking out state, we plan on winning it. susan: last question for you is about ohio. senator portman and governor john kasich, how important will they be to what ohio voters decide? >> portman was here last night. i spoke with him. he did not speak but he has been attending and with the delegation every night. john kasich is in cleveland. he has made the stance that he is not there yet. --ich enjoys one of the most largest approval ratings of a

governor, even after he sort of left the state to run. 68 percent approval rating. the delegation loves and adores him. but i talked to the delegation last night and they are like, look, we are going to be out there for trump, we are going to give it 100%, this means a lot to us. they see portman being an integral part of keeping his seat, if trump wins the state. susan: philadelphia next week? >> i will be in philadelphia next week. susan: thanks for talking to us and we will see you there. >> thanks for having me. steve: thanks very much. another perspective on what may happen in pennsylvania, back inside the quicken loans arena. let's look at the schedule this evening. expected to get underway in less than 30 minutes. c-span will be your place for live gavel-to-gavel coverage every minute of the convention. we will do the same thing next week in philadelphia. tonight, representative marsha

blackburn of tennessee will be among the speakers. also, oklahoma's governor, the chair of the republican national committee, reverend jerry falwell, jr., the president of liberty university, ivanka trump who will introduce her father, donald trump, and the traditional balloon drop, all on day 4 of the convention. let me go to the point made about pence in pennsylvania. a republican has not won pennsylvania since 1988 and yet every year they say it is a battleground state. is this your different? >> i think you have to be skeptical because as you mentioned, every four years republican say we can win pennsylvania could part of the goal is not to win the state but just to get democrats to spend money there and resources there. it all comes down to polls. if you look at the polls, hillary clinton and donald trump are head-to-head, tied, basically. i think there is going to be a lot of money going into pennsylvania. donald trump won pennsylvania

easily in the primary. i am skeptical. you have to give hillary clinton the edge just based on history. but at the same time, it could come down the stretch where there are states like florida where hillary clinton, she is up now, maybe she has secured that, and it becomes a battleground in the final weeks where we have not -- but we have not seen that in decades steve:. not sure -- steve:

steve: from the clinton campaign, a couple days before she has to philadelphia to secure her party nomination. goes back to what we were talking about, bob cusack, a campaign devoid of issues and focus on the personality of donald trump and the character of hillary clinton. it, donald about trump has set a different things at different times but that is the playbook that his rivals in the republican field went after him. it is a different electorate, no doubt about it. the general electorate is different from the primary electorate, and donald trump has been teflon. he went wire-to-wire and won wire-to-wire in the republican primary. general election, certainly hillary is going after him on his business record, going after is different, it's,

controversial comments, and also saying different things at different times. donald trump campaign is also going after hillary clinton for saying different things at different times, most notably on this tpp trade deal that donald trump has made one of the focuses of his campaign. he is very much critical of barack obama's trade deals. that does resonate with states like pennsylvania and union workers. most unions are supporting hillary clinton, but overall, the anti-trade messages very, very important to donald trump's success rate. where we go from here, you will see a very nasty campaign. hillary clinton has the resources. she can put a lot of those ads on television. also, one of the big issues that hillary clinton has to deal with that you have seen snippets of, she is calling more into shows from which is what donald trump dels all the time. but she has not done a press conference in well more than 200 days. the press has been giving her heat for that. donald trump does press

conferences and press interviews all the time. even though he doesn't have the resources, it looks like if he puts in a lot of his own resources, a lot more of them, she has the cash advantage. but he is on the air more. that is valuable time and that is money, basically, when you are getting free airtime. steve: the convention will start at 7:20 eastern time, and gavel out sometime after 11:00. we will have all of it. we want to hear from you. our phone lines are open. when you expect tonight from donald trump, your thoughts on the republican convention, and what is next for the democrats, as they enter philadelphia for the convention. steve: bob cusack, in our remaining moment or two with you, what do we expect from donald trump and what do we expect over the weekend as the democrats try to gain their footing heading into

philadelphia? >> well, we don't know exactly what we are going to see tonight. donald trump said previously that prior conventions have been born. this convention has not been boring. he has got to top the entrance he gave the other night where he had a silhouette and the lights were coming down and queen was playing, "we are the champions." very dramatic entrance. newt gingrich has joked that maybe donald trump will ride an elephant into the arena. i don't think that is going to happen. but it is going to be ivanka trum -- going to be dramatic. ivanka trump will be introducing him. marsha blackburn, dark horse to be picked vp, will be speaking. preibus, who has been at odds with trump but is definitely in the trump cap will

be speaking. this is donald trump's moment, his biggest night. he will deliver what i think will be a fairly lengthy speech. he will talk about security, taxes, strongholds of the republican party. and also going after donald trump. but i do think it is going to be more scripted. this is a speech where he can't go off the cuff. maybe a little bit, but not too much. the reason people use teleprompters is it is very effective in getting a message across, and i'm sure donald trump has been practicing this speech throughout the day. how many times, we don't know. but as he says, he views himself, as obama does, a clutch player. >> the editor-in-chief of the hilton newspaper, and a great friend of c-span, bob till sec joining us from the floor. >> thank you. for beingou very much

with us. in about 10 minutes, the band will start to play, that will be our queue to throw it to the floor. we want to hear from you, the phone lines are open. what can we expect tonight? what do you want to hear from donald trump? and what about hillary clinton next week? but first susan on the floor. susan: on your screen right now is olivia hurd. she is the grand prize winner of the 2016 student camera documentary competition. her winning entry was called -- it was about the national debt. before we talk to her, i want to show her winning documentary. let's watch. >> growth. >> there is a very serious debt crisis that has got to be shared. >> we have tremendous cutting to do. >> the train wreck that is our federal balance sheet, really when it gets fixed is if there is growth. bernie sanders: the largest corporations in this country

have also got to play a role in deficit reduction. donald trump: hundreds of billions of dollars is going to be saved just in terms of running government. no potential for -- but his opinions are a dime a devon, white we still have the crisis? the cover is bear. i don't think the cover is quite bear. in fact, i see infinite amounts of ways, especially spending. take. - cake. the national endowment for the arts receives $100 million of federal spending per year. i urge to request that titled $449 million. that is something we don't have to spare. i am an art kid in every sense of the word. color of about every the rainbow imaginable. i do think there is one area

where we can safely cut down on federal spending. susan: olivia's full documentary is on c-span's website. congratulations. were you interested in politics and issues before this process? olivia: i was not, so i knew only from my family. getting into it for myself until after making this video. susan: how has it changed your thinking? how do you think you'll use your newfound interest going forward? problems --pened my opened my eyes to the problems and the dire need for a good, strong leader to make america great again. i think i'll take that knowledge and run with it. i will keep exploring other solutions. susan: you're going into 11th grade in jameson, oklahoma, is that correct? how many fellow students are

interested in college? olivia: some think they are, but they don't have all the facts. they know what is in the press. those types of things. there are some that have a genuine interest. susan: you are not old enough to vote in november, correct? olivia: no. susan: how do you stay motivated about what is going on? olivia: what i been thinking about is how i can reach people through film. i am thinking what questions i can answer for people through film. susan: how did you get to this convention? olivia: my grandparents took me. susan: what are your questions beyond the floor? olivia: it is really cool. there is a lot going on. susan: do you expect when you are seeing? olivia: lots of people running around with credentials and nametags. people are come to see him speak tonight. susan: are you a supporter of donald trump? republican and

conservative, so i will support whoever the nominee is. susan: where will you be for the speech? olivia: i will be up in the suite, watching. susan: if you would like to say one thing about why they should you about politics, how can express to them why an average of 16-year-old should care about what is going on in this country and in the world? olivia: because these problems are actually real. they are not things we see in the press, social media. they are actually real, and they are affecting our daily lives. our children's daily lives in their children's daily lives, so if you don't care about it, nothing will be changed. susan: you expect you will continue making film? olivia: yes. susan: do you see that as a career? olivia: definitely. susan: we have another contest coming up. ,ell us what the other theme is and congratulations on winning. doubt on the floor

of the convention. wasis the c-span studentcam the 16 winner. -- 2016 winner. a very impressive young lady. check her out, she was be a success in the making or maybe politics. we are inside the queue, as it is known here. --egates becoming to come in beginning to come in. security is tight. we want to know what to expect on day four of this convention. brian is joining us from downey, california. good afternoon. caller: hello. host: go ahead, brian. donald hi, go at -- trump has to come down hard on the dad trade deals are killing america, and these very high liberal taxes that are driving companies out of the united states. host: brian, will you be watching tonight? caller: yes, i will be watching

tonight. , california.wney dan is next. austin, texas, democrats line. theer: i have been watching whole thing. as a new texas resident, i like what ted cruz did last night. he could've done something further. as far as donald trump, as a democrat, i need him to look presidential. as of right now, looking at the convention, he has not been looking very presidential. , i probably will not vote for you, but you have got to take this job serious. that is hoping what he does tonight. host: thank you for the call. from the oklahoma delegation, oklahoma's governor among those speaking tonight. the gavel coming down in about 40 minutes. we go to halt next in pro-trump

park, california. caller: hello. strangexpect something from donald trump tonight. i expect him to utter the phrase, "black lives matter." i think he has to do that, or the entire convention looks like a very bigoted racist group of people. i think he is going to acknowledge ted cruz, and i think he is going to apologize for the statements he made personally to ted cruz's family, because it will fit perfectly with portraying him as a leader who is learning, who makes mistakes but is making better mistakes than clinton would make, which i disagree with, but i believe we are going to see he has established that he has got to rein in the hard right side, and he will be tremendously in the middle with his speech. host: we have had some excerpts

from the speech. as long as we are led by politicians will not put america first, you can be rest assured other nations will not treat america with respect. this will all change when i take office. my messages that things have to change, and they have to change right now. from donald trump, his speech at 10:00 eastern hour. florida,homas from democrats line. go ahead, please. caller: yes, sir. host: you are on the air. i'm sorry. i have always been democrat. , voted for al gore and hillary back when obama was running. hillary aver vote for day in my life again. this has made me -- trump has may be changed to a republican.

he has got it on hundred percent. -- he has got it 100%. host: let's go to my colleague susan swain. i am. yes, steve, terry castro is here from florida, a first-time delegate from trumpeter your daughter -- you tell the story. >> my granddaughter was walking happyi was calling to say birthday, and she said, go to the alabama at sign, and they were wrapping up an interview. they were gracious to let me say happy birthday. we want to talk about politics. you are a trump supporter. your daughter is liberal. how did that happen? >> we are still trying to figure that out. she is definitely in the democratic camp, i am republican, but we still managed to coexist. susan: how did you become a

delegate? in front of the review board, and they selected three delegates and three alternates. i am a grassroots worker. susan: why did you put your name forward? >> i worked on many, many conventionand last in tampa. if i don't do it now, i will never be able to go. susan: when is the experience been like for you? >> overwhelming. it has been fantastic, it has. susan: how will you deliver florida to mr. trump? >> we will turn florida red. we have a great campaign ground ready to go. we are setting up offices. i think we are really going to deliver the state. i will sign off. susan: thank you for being with us. >> i appreciate it. impeccable timing. with that, we will take you to

the floor of the quicken loans arena, if you a sense of what is happening 10 minutes you for the gavel comes down. a reminder that all of the speeches are available at c-span.org, individually categorized. c-spanome speakers on radio, and we are back after the convention to hear from you, get your reaction to the speech tonight by the republican nominee, donald trump, and we in back next week philadelphia with the democratic national convention. day four of this cleveland convention. ♪

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>> please welcome chairman priebus. [applause] reince: delegates and alternates , ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the fifth session of the 2016 republican national convention. the convention will come to order. [gavel sound] welcomenow, please america's got talent contestant and singing sensation heavenly joy. [applause]

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[applause] [cheers] reince: wow, five years old. amazing. would everyone please rise for the presentation of the colors? the colors tonight will be presented by the veterans of foreign wars ohio seventh district geneva post, 6846. [applause]

>> colorguard, halt. and face. colors. to lead us in tonight's pledge of allegiance, please welcome marine corps veteran, former police officer and president of the family research council, tony perkins. [applause] >> thank you.

delegates of the great state of , join me inoin me our pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [applause] >> please welcome country music recording artist caleb brown to sing our national anthem. [applause] see oh, say can you light dawn's early

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wave yet land of the free home of the brave? ♪ [applause] reince: leading us in tonight's invitation, please welcome dr. steve bailey, superintendent of north coast district united methodist church. [applause] >> let us pray. , we invite your

spirit to come into this room and guide our actions tonight. our faith and traditions are united in recognition that you are the creator of all that is. and in waysa scale that we can scarcely comprehend, but your grace and love reached through space and time to claim us, guide us, and make us your own. we are not here tonight to ask you to bless but we have designed. -- what we have designed. we are here to ask you to transform us, to make us better, make us courageous, make us tireless in seeking a more just nation for all who live in this land. ,e are united in our discontent for we know the world can be made better. we know that it is not right

that racism continues to wound and destroy the lives of many in this land to instability received at the grocery store or on college campuses, we know that we will only be a great nation when we are a good nation. when every citizen is fully vested in the promise of citizenship and shares in the opportunities of this great land. we know that it is not right when lives are destroyed by addiction, when our justice system favor some punishes other, when children and women are trafficked in our streets or when people are denigrated because of who they are, or whom they love. we know that it is not rig