really just desperation on. -- exploration. book whiteusses her ridge. the unspoken truth about our racial divide which chronicles where black progress in history has been met by what she calls white rage. she suggested her book that opposition to the advancement of blacks still exist today. good book can be.org for the .omplete -- book tv.org whatw the discussion to motivated murder to support a candidate. this is from washington journal and is five minutes. 45 minutes. , political science professor and studied collections, political parties and everything related to election campaign. professor, thanks for joining us. guest: glad to be with you. host: can i take you back to last year?

you wrote in the paper and you said "a growing number of americans have been voting against the opposing party rather than for their own party." on what caused you to write that and can you apply to what we are seeing this year? guest: sure. onwere looking at data attitudes toward the candidates and political parties going back fromthe last 60 years surveys that have been done every election year. what we noticed was that over the past couple of decades that there was an increasingly negative view of the opposing party and its leaders, both democrats and republicans, that have come to view the opposing party and its leaders much more negatively than they did in the past, so while our feelings toward our own parties have not become more positive, i feelings

toward the opposing party have become increasingly negative, lead to stronger party loyalty and voting because the other party is simply viewed as an unacceptable alternative. certainly, we are seeing that play out in this year's collection. at the republican convention over the past two days, we have seen speaker after speaker focus very heavily on attacking the opposing nominee, hillary clinton, and that has been perhaps the single unifying the convention this year. the party is divided in many other ways, but there is agreements on the fact that they hillary clinton. i think we will seek something similar at the democratic convention. i'm sure we will see a lot of the tax on donald trump and the republican party, not perhaps the same degree of division as

as thereratic nominee was with the republican nominee, but we will see a great deal of negative energy focused on the republican candidate and republican candidate in general. host: we hear a lot when it comes to the candidates about the negatives and both of them being high, how does that factor into decision-making processes? what does a major hillary clinton to have high negatives? guest: we have two nominees this year who had the highest negatives of any major party nominees in recent history. part of that has to do with these individuals, but a great deal has to do it this tendency we have seen in recent years towards increasingly negative opinions or views of the nominee

. what we see is that among supporters of each party, the large majority have a positive view of their own party's but not necessarily as positive as in the past, but a view of thee opposing party's nominee, so republicans are not necessarily crazy about donald trump and many republicans continue to have reservations about donald trump, but what unites republicans for the most part is that they dislike hillary clinton. we saw that play out in the convention. there democratic side, are democrats have reservations about hillary clinton, and we saw her struggle in the primaries to overcome a bernie sanders. at the convention, we will see a andp focus on donald trump on the weaknesses of the

republican party and its policy. among democrats, we see a negative view of trump, so among , thereers of each party are many individuals less than enthusiastic about the party nominee but who will vote for the nominee because they dislike the other side and the other party nominee. host: our guest, alan abramowitz from emory university, joining us to talk about how voters spoke in campaign 2016. republicans, (202)-748-8001. democrats, (202)-748-8000. .ndependents, (202)-748-8002 our first call from texas, comanche, texas, republican line. you are on with our guest read go-ahead. caller: i would just like to make a comment. -- good morning.

it is pretty much the same on both sides. not wantlicans do hillary, which is a good thing, and some of them do not want mr. trump, which i do not really understand, except the fact that he has never really been a and you have it the same way the other side. some democrats are saying that thing, is is a great which we all know is not true, you have some of them saying they will vote republican. about more people talking not voting for hillary, voting for donald trump then i hear the other way, so i pretty sure

donald has this wrapped up in in the bag. when theyw that listen to hillary clinton or any of the clintons that it will be -- host: thank you. we will let our guest respond. guest: he does not have it in the bag. in fact, what polling indicates is we are heading toward a fairly close election and that hillary clinton has the advantage, if anything. the outcome not certain by any means. in the polling meeting up to the convention, we saw that clinton had an average lead in national polls of about three points four points, and leading in most of the states, so we are heading toward the competitive price. that reflects the fact that there is a very close decision between supporters of the two parties in the american electorate. with democrats slightly outnumbered republicans.

we are going to see the high degree of party unity in voting and a lot of straight ticket voting. that is what we have seen in other elections. i think that is what we will see in this election. the key to winning the election is probably going to be turnout and which party is able to turn at the supporters in larger numbers because there are very few twin voters left -- swing voters left in the country. voters left up for grabs are small minority. the vast majority of voters already have their minds made up. host: massachusetts, independent line, john, hello. caller: good morning. isave -- what concerns me kind of gone by now, but the democratic leadership was clearly against mr. sanders and

and by the use of the superdelegates and they certainly did a job on bernie and he did not really have a chance. it did not help that the media did not point out the fact that both of hillary's leaves were uncommitted votes, but on the other hand, republican leadership was not the trump and the couldn't stop him and i was wondering if the democrats are more devious or how did that come about? host: professor, go ahead. guest: i do not think that hillary clinton won the democratic nomination because the leaders were devious or somehow manipulated the nomination process. because she had more votes in the democratic primary. when you go back and look at the

leading she has been among democratic voters from the beginning and it got close at one point. sanders ran a strong campaign, challenging her, and a large number of delegates, but clinton maintained the lead throughout and in the end, she won more votes in the democratic primaries and her lead in delegates reflects that. the superdelegates mostly supported her from the beginning because they knew her and had more confidence in her and her ability to in the election, but clinton won a lot more votes in the primaries and won the majority of delegates in the primary. host: what does history suggest about the people who are really committed to bernie sanders, as far as staying home and not voting, or voting for another candidate altogether? look at what happened in 2008 with supporters of hillary clinton after barack obama clinched the nomination

and the large majority of them came around to vote for obama. we see something similar this year. the polling has shown us that we are seeing a large majority of are favoringrs hillary clinton, supporting hillary clinton at this point. there is a minority holding not. very few of them are supporting donald trump, so even though trump has made some gestures toward appearing to the disgruntled voters, it is unlikely that many sanders' voters will look for donald trump because they are on the opposite side of almost every wager issue and really dislike trump. in fact, the polls show us that sanders' supporters this like trump more than clinton voters .islike trump

the real question is whether the willrs' supporters turnout, especially the younger ones because they tend not to turn out in large numbers anyway, and many of the supporters for sanders are under the age of 30 and clinton needs to get a strong turnout from .hose younger supporters host: from oregon, democrat line. hello. caller: sorry, it is really here. i have been listening to the and i was the sanders supporter and i am disappointed that he got out of the race, kind of looking forward to it, but i was seeing this and more of a grassroots thing. the people feel as though their voices are not being recognized and i wonder what the professor thinks of that as it might be

changing the results because hillary, when they are both party insiders, hillary and obama, and now it is a different situation. thet: i think supporters of defeated candidate will be disappointed in the results. as far as insider versus outside the, on the republican side, donald trump ran as an outsider and i think overcame the opposition of the republican party establishment. i think many of them were quite shocked that he was able to do that and to defeat this large group of much more experienced candidates. on the democratic side, i think the difference is that are not asvoters dissatisfied with their parties. keys is thatof the democrats overwhelmingly

approved of the jobs that president obama is doing. among democrats, almost 90% approve of obama's job performance and even among voters, 80% approve of obama, they don't have the same discontent on the democratic side that you have on the republican side, where there has been a great deal of frustration with the ineffectiveness of the republican leadership and the inability to deliver some of the commitments and promises that they have made to republican voters, unrealistic commitments and promises. host: samantha from virginia, independent line. go ahead. caller: good morning. reference to of the polls showing overall favorability ratings on each candidate. i was wondering whether polls show an favorability ratings for unregistered republicans and

whether they are higher or lower an favorability rating for democrats? right, so when you look at the views of the candidate among republicans and democrats, generally, republicans have a favorable opinion of donald trump, but there is a minority or there has been until the convention, that continue to have negative views of trump, so generally about 70% of republicans have a positive view of donald trump but there are about 30% to do not care for him. keep in mind that the majority of republicans in the primary did not vote for donald trump. ast may change as far republican convention. trump's ratings have been going up among republicans but not among immigrants are independents. on the democratic side, we see

that the large majority of democrats have a favorable view of hillary clinton. the may have some reservations about her, but most of them like her and intensely dislike donald trump. on both sides, there is a positive view of the candidates but there is a negative view of the candidates on the opposing party. host: we just heard from an independent. how did they factor into this as far as how they look at candidates and who they will vote for? guest: great question. a lot of people in this country called themselves independents like to think of themselves as independents. what we find when we look a little more closely is that the large majority of those independents lean toward one party or the other and the attitudes of those coming toward the party and the behavior of those who lean toward the party are actually similar to the ititudes to those who open in a pilot the party.

independent republicans thinking that like republicans and independent democrats think and act like democrats. you are left with a relatively small number of independence, independent that have no partisan leaning and that makes up 10% of the electorate. likely tohe least really the group, so electorate is a lot more partisan than it appears if you just look at the responses to that first party identification question, and not only to the vast majority of voters identify party, but in the recent elections, there is extremely high party loyalty in voting. 90% plus of democrats and republicans vote for their own party and they vote right down the line for the party candidates for house-senate and

even down to the state , so we see aevel high degree of consistency and voting in fight consistency and election results, consistency between the presidential and house elections, but also over time, so we are very likely to see that the alignment of states and the 2016 presidential election is going to end up looking very similar to the alignment of states in the 2012 residential collection. we may very well end up with an election in which no more than a handful of states actually such sides to 2012 and 2016 or possibly even more than one. right now, in the state polling, we are seeing an indication that the state of north carolina may be the only state that searches 2016, andeen 2012 and they could go for clinton but a narrow margin although it is

very close their, so we will proceed in the alignment, similar to the style of democratic states and they will remain strongly democratic. strongly republican states will remain, for the most far, strongly republican, and that reflects the reality of the partisan electorate. host: let's hear from john in pennsylvania, republican line. caller: yes, i am a registered apublican and i am also network trump person. it is not trumps policies that bother me, it is the man that bothers me. thatis the only candidate i have ever been familiar with. i knew trump from going to atlantic city. he was the biggest casino owner at one time in atlantic city and has been a disaster. three of his four casinos in atlantic city was on the boardwalk. mahal -- and taj

these casinos on the boardwalk where the bus casinos. wasy government check that written, whether it was a social security check, retirement check or an income tax check, any check that was given out, trump had his buses to bring them people there to steal their money. there was never any kind of fairness in the way the machines paid out down there. trump is the only casino owner in atlantic city, maybe the only casino owner in the world to have his casino manager shot dead in his casino because of the cheating down there. host: ok, thanks. that person has strong opinions. guest: as far as looking at mr. trump and his business experience -- host: how did that factor into

people's decision-making and i want to read a tweet, michael saying, trump is not your father's gop candidate. does that affect the polling? kind of looks at how people will decide to vote for him. guest: i think his experience goes both ways. with trump, there are people who attend to view him as a seeessful businessman and that as a positive. there are other people who kind of look at the negative side, the bankruptcy, the history of sometimes refusing to pay people reportsed her him, along those lines, so people can interpret that either way. not surprisingly what you find is that people tend to interpret that information in line with the partisan predisposition. in other words, democrats tend to look at that negative side and republicans tend to look at the positive side. it is true that trump is an

unusual republican. he really has no long history of affiliation with the republican party. inhas only become involved republican politics recently. never run for elected office, held elected office, so he is unusual, but i think it reflects the strength of party loyalties in the united states today that despite that fact, and despite the fact that the majority of republicans in the primary voted for other candidates, and many of them at that time had rather negative opinions of mr. trump and that by now, the large majority of republicans have come around to supporting him. when it comes down to a choice between donald trump and hillary clinton, you'll see the vast majority of republicans, despite reservations they might have about mr. trump himself about his record, experience and some positions he has taken, they

nevertheless will vote for trump . the same on the democratic side as well, where i think the reservations have not been quite as great there for the most part, but certainly there are plenty of democrats to have concerns about hillary clinton. when it comes to a choice between haley clinton and donald trump, i think you'll see that the vast majority of democrats are going to vote for hillary clinton, and for the most part, the polls have been showing that so far. host: from houston, texas, democrat line. ashley, you are up next. caller: good morning. , naturally,rat, so i will vote for hillary because think a democrat and i very qualified lady. trump scares me to death. in houston for 30 years and we had emergency medicine on one side and psychiatry on the other side.

i personally do not think that trump is stable. i think he is a complete narcissist and can only think of himself and that is the definition of a nice assist and i do not think he is qualified to be president. that is the way i feel and i thank you. host: i think that is probably the way it most democrats you about mr. trump. guest: i think some of the concerns expressed by the caller are shared by a large percentage .f them aquatic voters there is a minority of republican voters who have similar concerns about mr. trump, but when i look at the polls and what i see is that only a very small percentage of republicans thus far are indicating that they will vote for hillary clinton, so i think when it comes right down to it, voters are going to stay with their party nominee and the

question may be more one of turnout than of loyalty, so if democrats and republicans turn on, they are more than likely to .ote for the party nominee some democrats and republicans may stay home because they do not care for the presidential candidate. that is what the nominees and parties have to be concerned about, i think generating that enthusiasm and turnout among the supporters of their party, and whichever party does a better job of doing that i think is likely to win the election. host: our guest teachers at emory university and taught at the state university of new york and the college of william and mary. he is alan abramowitz of emory. how do gauge the ground games of each of the candidates? turnout will be an important factor. guest: from what we are seeing so far, the clinton campaign and the democrats seem to be far

ahead when it comes to organizing their campaigns. there are a lot of indications of that in terms of the money being spent in the swing states money on advertising, but also the money being invested in the field offices in these states, and barack obama has that advantage in that regard in 2008 and 2012. it looks like hillary clinton is going to have the big advantage when it comes to the ground game in the swing state in 2016, so in a close election, and these swing states, of course, tend to be close and that could make the difference. if you can increase your turnout by 1% or 2%, that can be the difference in a close race. so far, i would say that the democrats seem to have the advantage in terms of

fundraising, spending on advertising in the swing states and in terms of field operations. judy,we will hear from independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i am in my 60's and have been voting for a long time. this is the first time i am voting [indiscernible] donald trump does frighten me. he is a businessman, and he is a salesman, a very good salesman and that is what worries me. he says anything that he thinks will win votes for him and has no idea how he will push these things. his business is all went lose thathe did not much money, but the people who run those businesses were the ones who suffered, so he doesn't seem to care about the common man, but the common man seems to be the one who is voting for him

because they think he will make them rich like him. that is all i have to say. have not just on with regard to the 2016 election is the impact of the demographic shift of changes on the makeup of the electorate in the outcome of the election it one thing that is striking this year is that we have a republican nominee who has kind of gone out of his way to insult minority .oters, particularly latinos and that could have a very significant impact on the outcome of the 2016 election, because latinos are the fastest-growing voting group in the population. of the things i found startling at the republican convention was that arpaiot on sheriff joe

of maricopa county, arizona, during prime time, and this is a his policyfamous for of rounding up undocumented immigrants and sometimes perhaps those who are here legally at the same time, and this is just one further sort of nail in the coffin when it comes to any hope republicans had in making inroads among latino voters. this will be a significant offender -- factor, particularly in florida, which has a rapidly growing latino population, and colorado and even in some of the other swing states that have smaller latino populations. i think that is something that we could watch very closely, because in the end in a close election, that could be the key. host: professor, someone asked

on twitter -- steve -- do you believe this will be an extremely low turnout election? guest: no, i do not. actually, i expect this to be a high turnout election. nominees may be rather unpopular, unfavorable. i think the key to turnout is when voters perceive a big difference between the candidates and when there is a lot at stake in the election. one thing about having hillary clinton and donald trump as the two major party candidates is that i think voters will generally agree that there is a lot at stake in this election, and it makes a great deal of difference who wins the election. i think that is likely to drive turnout up. i would not be surprised to see voter turnout increase compared with 2012 and possibly even reach the turnout level we had in 2008, which was about 62% of

eligible voters, which was the highest turnout we had in a u.s. presidential election and many years. host: from maryland, democrat line, jason. hello. caller: hi. host: you are on. caller: i just want to say that i am a bernie sanders supporter. i do not really think that trump is qualified to be president. because the way he acts is rude, annoying, and you see regular protesters getting thrown out, and it is really evil. like bernieer sanders than most people, but since he is gone, i have to vote for hillary condition. so yeah, i do not really like hillary clinton, but trump up is not a good nominee. host: jason, i have got to ask, how old are you? caller: uh, nine.

to know whatwanted gained your interest in politics, and why senator sanders? what impressed you about him? isler: what impressed me because he is a pretty nice guy, pretty descent. trump, i don't know, i do not really like him that much. he is rude. i do not really think that he is good enough to be one of the nominees and all that. i would rather want bernie sanders, but i have to vote for hillary clinton because everyone else is gone. so that is why i had to vote for hillary clinton, because trump, i don't know, he is not a good guy. i think he is very rude. host: gotcha. already nine years old and thinking about voting. the you have anything to add to that? to haveell, he is going to wait another nine years to

actually vote, but it is interesting to see someone that young following what is going on in politics and has pretty strong opinions about it. host: massachusetts, independent line. janet, you are on. caller: good morning. i just have a question for you, you not awarehere of all of the states that hillary won that are being contested? there are a lot of lawsuits that have been filed. that you have a number of sanders supporters who are interested in challenging some of the results. but i have not seen any evidence of any serious challenge going on to any of the results. bernie sanders himself is not challenging the results. of course, he recently endorsed hillary clinton. i just do not think there is any real chance that any of those results will be overturned.

i will say that there are a number of states in which there were clearly serious problems with the voting process. an example was arizona, where there were huge problems and maricopa county. that had nothing to do with the clinton campaign. that was a result of decisions made at the local election officials -- by local election officials, who were mostly republicans. there are lots of problems with our voting process in the united states. but there was nothing that happened there doesn't just a that there was any systematic fraud or anything that would have altered the outcome of the nomination process that i can see. host: pennsylvania, republican line. caller: this is my first time calling as a republican. i have been a democrat my whole life as i was 18. i want to say that i love donald

trump. i really think we need somebody in office that will do what he says he is going to do and get it done right. he says he's going to get teams together to solve all these problems, and i am sure he will do what he says. casinos, i go to the casino once in a while here in pennsylvania, and all i see is elderly people at these casinos. i do not know if they are spending the social security checks or what, but they are there all the time. i just think that anybody that could vote for hillary clinton, ith all that the fbi said, just do not understand what is wrong with them. i just hope that trump wins and everything works out for all of us. that is all i care about. when it comesr, to hillary clinton and the fbi revelations to what kind of impact amongst the electorate? guest: it is a little hard to say at this point.

a lot of this information was the fbiout there before report came out. we had the inspector general report before that an committee investigations in congress. for the most part, i think people's opinions of how serious this is an whether it is disqualifying pretty much fall along party lines. republicans tend to view this as a much more serious thing and disqualifying than democrats. democrats, on the other hand, they do not necessarily dismiss it entirely, but i think are much less likely to think that this somehow disqualifies her it certainlynd will not stop them from voting for her. this professor, what about idea of partisanship, does this factor into a person's voting, how they feel about the topic of

partisanship and whether it is negative and positive and who they will vote for in an election? guest: yes, i mean, partisanship is by far the strongest predictor of voting behavior. and that is because democrats across alicans differ wide range of issues, have very different views of what can be to theen it comes economy, when it comes to our altural issues, and there is growing racial and ethnic divide between the parties, as well. that is something we are really seeing play out in this years election. if you look at the republican convention and then at the democratic convention next week, you will see an enormous difference in terms of the racial and ethnic composition of the delegates. that reflects the divide between the supporters of the two parties. the democratic party is a much more racial and ethnically diverse party than the republican party. less than 1% of the delegates at

the republican convention where african-americans and an even smaller percentage were latinos and asian-americans. you had an overwhelmingly white republican party. on the other side, you have a democratic party that has become increasingly dependent on the votes of nonwhites. 45% of the voters for obama in 2012 were nonwhite, as were 45% of voters for democrats of the house and senate. will be an, democrats majority minority party. that racial divide between the parties is what is driving many of the other differences, and i think you see it reflected in the primaries this year. i think kind of fears and concerns about the growing diversity of the country are one of the factors, i think, that was underlying support for donald trump. virginia, beaverdam,

independent line. bill, good morning. caller: good morning, professor abramowitz. i have a couple comments. one is i can see you lean to the left. this is a comment made about me before, but i lean both to the left and the right. the film latert on, you'll see what i mean. have isr comment that i related to the lady that just called about the problem with elderly people. aboutwain had a comment that, saying the misfortune with the elderly people is that they have the misfortune of having been born too long ago. the main thing that i called about, of course, is the coverage.

cnn, and also on fox network, the convention itself. what we have is now the opportunity for wall-to-wall coverage of all the speakers, but the coverage of the speakers was actually not done. what we have instead is talking heads the talking heads of the speaker inile the the background is speaking, but he is not covered. and then what we have is select speakers are covered. gets donehat bigger speaking -- once that speaker gets done speaking, then they are picked apart by the talking heads. there is slant of that speaker, and it is covered ad nauseam, while other speakers are going on behind, sometimes very important speakers.

speakersbe even four go on afterwards. we do not hear from those speakers. then another speaker comes on that we hear, and then we get the talking heads again. host: got your point. we will let our guest respond. i wanted to remind people that when our coverage of convention happens, we do it gavel-to- gavel, no interruptions, no talking heads. guest: networks have long had a policy of only covering the with ame speakers, consider to be the most important speakers at the national conventions. many years ago, the networks used to provide gavel-to-gavel coverage, something along the lines of what c-span is doing now, but they decided it was not economically viable. they are in the business of selling advertising time. apparently, the audience does not particularly care to watch

some of these other lesser-known speakers either. i think that they are paying these talking heads a lot of money, too, so they kind of have to give them a good deal of airtime, whether you agree or disagree with what they are saying. and if you do not care for what they are saying, you can either watch a different network or you can watch c-span. there are plenty of alternatives when it comes to watching the convention. i personally find some of the commentary to be helpful and some of it not to be helpful. it is just varied. but we are going to see the same things with the democrat week that wast over the republican convention. the networks will cover it the same way that the cover the republican convention. from someoneearing who lives in philadelphia, pennsylvania, democrat line. caller: yes, hi, thanks for taking my call. i want to ask the professor about the down ballot affect,

the chances about of democrats taking the senate to it for example, i believe all the u.s. level representatives in our senate that are republican did not attend the rnc convention. i was wondering, they are obviously worried about being associated with some of the, you know, negative aspects of trump. so i wanted to ask about the u.s. senate, whether democrats have a chance to take the senate back. yes, i think they do have a chance to take the senate back . and that is largely because of the numbers this year. of the 34 senate seats up this year, and keep in mind, these are senators who were last 2010, which was a very good republican year, but now those same senators have to run again in a presidential

election year that may not be as good a republican year. up this year, 24 are currently held by republicans, only 10 held by democrats. among those 24, there are probably six or seven that present democrats with pickup opportunities. there are five or six that are in states that barack obama carried in 2012. yes, democrats have a pretty good chance to pick up several seats in the senate this year and possibly even to regain a majority in the senate, especially if hillary clinton wins the presidential election. on the house side, the pickup opportunities are smaller percentage of the seats. there, democrats are unlikely to regain control. they would have to gain 30 or

more seats, and there just are not that many seats that are really in play. i would expect democrats to make gains in both of house and senate, and partly because they are in such a low state right now with so few states, the fewest seats in the house since the 1920's. the democrats have no place to go but up in the house. they will probably go up, and they will probably not gain 30 or more seats in the house. in the senate, it will be very important as to who ever is the next president whether you have a republican or democratic senate. the senate has to confirm presidential appointments. and we have supreme court , andntment already in play it will still be in play next year, and there may very well be more supreme court appointments, in addition to all the other appointments to the various positions to the top in the executive branch and the reglan tory agencies.

agencies. regulatory so control of the senate goes along with control of the white house. host: indiana, republican line. caller: good morning. i really do appreciate c-span's coverage, because i would rather listen to the speakers than the talking heads. anyway, i was calling about a ory from virginia about 15 20 minutes, saying one thing that bothered her about trump up was his bankruptcies. you know that walt disney, he had four bankruptcies, i believe, before he finally became successful. and she was talking about, well, he don't care about the middle people because those bankruptcies hurt the middle andon, and this is this, things he had taken over were falling apart anyway, and he has turned around a lot of them and has kept people employed.

so i do not think that should really be a concern of people in regards to trump. and i am so antiestablishment. i am a republican. i voted against luger when luger lost. becomingtor, he was establishment even though he was really young into the group. anyway, i think a lot of people are missing how disturbed and mad we are with the way our country has been going, and that is the movement that is underway. host: i would suppose that mike pence helped to make your case, as well. caller: well, mike pence was a strong conservative. i went to listen to him one time, tea party, so i know he is more towards the line of what the everyday person is thinking

versus the well establishment. i hate to see him leave the governorship of indiana because of the great economy we are having here and the success that indiana has, but if it helps the country out, i guess you have to sacrifice something. even though he was in there for 12 years, the house of representatives, second-ranked when he left, he still was a better choice for speaker of the house then what boehner eventually got into. host: thank you for that professor, your final thoughts, sir. guest: i think what the last call is reflecting is that there is a great deal of anger and frustration out there in the country, but it is primarily among republicans. the level of anger and frustration toward the white obama,toward president is very strong among republicans, and i think that

contributed to donald trump's success in the primaries. but all the democratic side, it is a very different attitude down there. as i mentioned, there is a very positive view of president obama and his policies, and i think that helped hillary clinton in the primaries. i think that is the way things are going to break down pretty much in the general election. we have got about 50% slightly over 50% of americans right now who approve of the job obama is doing. , depending on which poll you look at, disapprove. the country is pretty evenly divided, and i think the outcome of the election is going to reflect the visions we see in the

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