. i am the luckiest dad, and the luckiest has been in the world. [cheers and applause] [applause] this is been quite a week for me, and believe it or not, to become hillary clinton's running mate, that is not the only thing on my mind this week. i have three kids. he is a proud marine. [applause] and in just a few days, he is deploying to europe to uphold america's commitment to our nato allies. [applause] me, this drives

home the stakes in the selection . nearly 2 million men and women put their lives on the line for this country as active duty, as -- they deserve a commander in chief with the experience and the temperament to lead. [applause] what does donald trump say about these americans, the 2 millions? disaster, anda just this week, donald trump said as president, he would consider turning america's back on our decade-old commitment to our allies. all of you remember months us and ite said about

call the, john mccain, that he was not a hero because he had and was a prisoner of war, and he wants to be commander in chief? was service members are out there on the front lines, -- with service members out there on the frontlines, this is an open invitation for vladimir just roll on in. even a lot of republicans say that is terrible dangerous. crazy! mr. kaine: ok, i am hiring for this speech writing team. when donald trump says he has your back, you had better watch out. with his so-called university, he leaves a trail of broken liveses and wrecked

wherever he goes. we cannot afford to let him do the same things to our country, and, folks, we do not have to because hillary clinton is the direct opposite of donald trump. [applause] >> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary clinton -- >> hillary! hillary! listens to them. she does not trash our allies, she respects them, and she will always have our back. that is something i am rock i know thatf, and

because hillary knows that we are stronger together, we are stronger when we work together, when we grow together, when we pulled together, when we live in the same neighborhood and -- and whenther and we are together, we are stronger. i could not be any more honor to this by hillary's side in very important campaign. >> we love you both! cheers and applause] mr. kaine: i have spent my life in public service because i believe in doing everything i can to be positive in people's lives, and i can tell that there are many of you out there that feel exactly the same way, exactly the same way. of only 20 people in american history to serve as a

mayor, a governor, and a united , -- and a united and i have been able to see how government works and how sometimes it doesn't from just about every perspective, and i have always believed that however you serve, what matters is if you actually deliver results for people, and that has been my goal. that has been my goal in every position i have ever held. know for a lot of you, this might be the first time you are hearing me speak, and let me be honest. for many of you, this is the first time you had even heard my name, but that is ok, because i am excited for us to get to know one another, so today -- today, i thought i would tell you a little bit about me and where i come from. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: vice president was never a job i thought about when

growing up in kansas. like a lot of people in kansas city, my parents were not that to politics pre-church, the kansas city royals, those were the kinds of things we -- into politics. church and the kansas city royals, those were the kinds of things we thought of. bestm was my dad's saleswoman, and that iron working job is a job where you cannot cut corners. if you make one mistake, you can ruin an awful lot in an instant. i learned that working in the shop. my brothers and i pitched in. sometimes, we were scheduled to pitch in, and sometimes dad would just shake us and say, "i have in order to get in. i need you guys."

id i were him or one morning, was looking so forward to sleeping in, and i felt that -- and i remember one morning, i was looking so forward to sleeping in, and i felt that shoulder shaking. that is what families do. that is what families do. parents, they are happy today, 81 years old, alive and healthy. they taught me early lessons, the importance of hard work, of faith and kindness, of following your dreams. my mom once told me, and i will tell you this street she was not much of a lecturer. told me this. 10, you have to decide if you want to be right or if you want to do right. tim, you have to decide if

or if youo be right, want to be right. b and optimists. be an optimist. school.o a jesuit in theht, some jesuits audience. i like that. others,"o was "men for and that is our faith, which is important to me, and it grew into something more vital. , myecame like my north star organizing principle for what i wanted to do. , i knew iyoung man wanted to do something to devote myself to social justice. and that is why after racing through the university of missouri and three years and starting at harvard law school, i decided to take a year off to volunteer with jesuit

missionaries in honduras. [speaking spanish] well, when i got to honduras, it turned out that my recently acquired knowledge of constitutional law was pretty useless, but with the experience of working in my dad's fireworks shop was kind of helpful, so i taught them the basins -- basics of carpentry and welding, and they helped me learn spanish, and i tell you, my time in honduras changed my life in so many ways. [speaking spanish]

and in 1980 and 1981, this was a dictatorship, where few folks at the top had all of the power, and everybody else got left behind, and it convinced me that we're got to advance opportunity and equality for everybody, no matter where moneyome from, how much they have, what accent they have, or who they love. [applause] virginia, in 1970, in he integrated virginia public schools after the state had fought for 16 years after brown v board to keep them in segregated.

in 1970 in virginia, that took political courage, and then he and his wife went even further. they enrolled their own kids, anne ing their daughter public schools, saying they would not back down, he would not make rules that he would not follow for himself. [cheers and applause] so many years later, went tong girl anne princeton, went to lawful, guided by her experience, and one day in a study group, she met kind of a nerdy guy who had been out teaching kids in honduras. and i got married over 30

years ago in richmond, virginia. that is the parish that we still belong to today. hey, st. e's folks. we will be there at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. anne was the best decision of my life. anne -- am i right? am i right? out, she actually learned negotiation are a lot better than i did in law school -- and it turns out, she actually learned negotiation a lot better than i did in law school. we sent our kids to those same public schools that her father had opened up to everybody. [cheers and applause] including -- that our one school

school named the linwood holton elementary school. how cool was it to see our three ut the door to go to a school that was named after their civil rights hero grandfather? his example inspired me. to represent people turned away from housing either because of the color of their skin or because they were an american with a disability, and this was my civil rights work for 17 years. battling bags, landlords, real estate firms, insurance companies, and even local government. -- even local governments that had treated people unfairly. verdict against

an insurance company because they have been redlining neighborhoods, treating them unfairly in the issue of homeowners insurance. at the time i won that case, it was the biggest jury verdict in a civil rights case in american history. -- like to fight for rights i like to fight for rights! rights! andght for i found myself going to city council meetings to look at the issues i was dealing with everyday on behalf of my clients, but i was frustrated by the division and infighting, so in 1994, i did something that seems and crazier than what i am doing now. for office. run man, i was so scared, but i wanted to help my city and community. i knocked on doors.

votes, the first of many nailbiter's and squeakers -- many nailbiters and squ eakers. listening to people, learning about their lives. in the years that followed, i became mayor of richmond. i was elected lieutenant thatnor, and in quick, anna 2006 -- when we moved into the governor's mansion after the inauguration, my wife became the only person who ever lived there first as a child and then as an adult. [cheers and applause] we had to make tough decisions when i was in office, because it

was the deepest recession since that did notut stop us from expanding early childhood education, from building more classrooms and facilities on our college campuses so that more can go to school -- because we knew that education was a key to everything we want to achieve as a state, and it is the key to everything we want to achieve as a nation. we worked on open-space preservation and cleaning up the chesapeake a because our kids and grandkids deserve to enjoy the beautiful commonwealth that we love, just like you love the beauty of your sunshine state. and we achieved national recognition for our work and tough times. virginia, governor of best manage state in america, it allowed a child to have a successful life, best date for business, one of the lowest unemployment rates, when of the highest bond ratings, when of

the highest family incomes. -- best state for business. we did that in tough times, and so today, i am proud to carry as a virginiaard senator, serving on the armed services, foreign relations, and budget committees. they just added me to the aging committee. i do not know why they would have done that. [laughter] i am proud to support my wife, who is now secretary of in virginia. i are both so proud of our great commonwealth and of our great nation, and isn't it great already? i mean, isn't it great already? [cheers and applause] what a great country.

as i look back over these has created aod rainbow of cultural diversity that embraces all people their race or economic status, regardless of their religion or gender, regardless of their sexual orientation or where they are from. beautifult this country that should be a country of wealth, that should be a country of inclusion, and i know that that is a fundamental value that hillary clinton shares. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: i am a catholic, and hillary is a methodist, but her creed is the same, do all of the cree -- good that you can.

do all of the good that you can. the of service to one another. now, that is a notion that americans of every moral tradition believes in, and that is the message hillary clinton has taken to heart for her entire life, for her entire life. fighting for children and families, like when she was first lady, after she tried, and a recalcitrant congress blocked her with a big advance we needed on health care reform. she said, you know what? i am not stopping. can we pass a program to provide to 8 millionnce more children? and that is what she did. that is what she did. that is what she fought for. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: fighting for the rights for african-americans,

americans withr disabilities, for lgbt americans . in the aftermath of the 9/11 toacks, fighting tenaciously make sure that first responders in new york at other localities would get health benefits. [cheers and applause] aren'tne: now, there awful lot of people who put their trust and their faith in hillary, and she has always delivered for them. from working with the children's defense fund to first lady of arkansas to first lady of the united states, to senator, to -- there arestate an awful lot of people who put their trust and faith in hillary, and she always delivered for them. with the children's defense fund to first lady of

arkansas to first lady of the united states to senator to secretary of state. hillary! hillary! she even delivers when she is on the receiving and of one attack after another. she never backs down. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: hillary, whatever the attack, whatever the situation, she stays focused. that is what keeps her going. so here is how hillary and i are going to continue that work with a strong, progressive agenda. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: we are going to make

the american economy work for everybody, not just those at the top, not just those at the top, and we will do that -- we will do that by making the largest investment in good-paying jobs since world war ii. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: we will make college debt-free for everybody. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: we will rewrite the so that companies share profits with companies rather overseas, and we will make sure that wall street, corporations, and the wealthy a their fair share of taxes. and the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. [cheers and applause] and while we are on the subject of taxes, where our donald trump's tax returns?

[booing] hand ife: raise your you think those returns would show that he has paid his fair share of taxes. i do not see a lot of hands. we're going to work for equal pay for women and raising the minimum wage. [cheers and applause] keep families together, to keep families together, and to bring them out of the shadows in our , in our first 100 days, we will put together a immigration reform package that includes a path to [cheers and applause] . [cheers and applause] -- a path to citizenship. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: [speaking spanish]

[speaking english] raise your hand if you have been a naturalized citizen. thanks for choosing us. thanks for choosing us. ofyou have not been to one those services, it is going to be one of the most powerful things you are going to see. taken, after the oath is there is an open mic, and people will say, "here is why i wanted to be a citizen of the united will bring tears to your eyes to hear people say why they wanted to be a citizen of the united states of america.

usa! usa! usa! to kaine: and when you go one of these naturalization services, and you see these to join thisre great country, you'll basically have this pretty amazing thought. [speaking spanish] anybody who loves america this much deserves to be here, deserves to be here. now, there is one last part of hillary's plan that means a lot to me personally, that is kind of emotional for me, and i bet is emotional for you, how to stem the epic of nonviolence that killed thousands of -- thats every year

kills thousands of americans every year. as governor during one of the most horrible shootings in our history, this issue is very close to my heart, very close to my heart, and i know that many of you feel exactly the same way after that tragic shooting in orlando in june. we can do better, folks. we can do better. 2007, aboutril of halfway through my time as governor, i had just arrived in japan on a trade mission to bring jobs back to america, had checked into the hotel and had fallen asleep, and there was a knock on my door, and the head of my security detail said, you have to turn on the television. there is a horrible shooting at the university in blacksburg, virginia, and as jetlagged as i

was, i went to take the next playback, 14 hours over, 14 hours that, and i walked onto in thempus, jetlagged wrong time zone, and i know that even though i did not have any magic words to say that we take away the tragedy, i had to bring comfort to the families of those who had been killed, to the students and professors who had and also to the first responders who had been there to help them. april 16, 2007, that was the worst day of my life. it was the worst day of so many people's lives, and for the parents of the loved ones of those kids and professors, that pain never goes away. precious 17 euro -- a

17-year-old, a holocaust survivor, who could survive the takeover of his country but who would fall victim to gun violence because he blocked the students tod his climb out the window as his body bullets, riddled by and to fall victim in blacksburg, virginia, to american gun violence? even a majority of nra members agree that we have to adopt commonsense gun safety measures. --lary and i will not rest we will not rest -- [cheers and applause] until -- we will not

rest. >> hillary! we will not rest until we get universal background checks and close loopholes that put guns in the and terrorists who should not have them. the american public wants it. gun owners want it. the nra wants it. nra campaigned against me in every statewide race that i have ever run, but i have never lost an election. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: i have never lost an election. [cheers and applause] i don't mind powerful groups campaigning against me. that is like a next her cup of coffee to me, folks. is like an extra cup of

coffee to me, folks. that is like a next her cup of coffee. -- an extra cup of coffee. clinton has stood against the issues that hillary has laid out in her campaign and many, many more, and i will wrap these up with three questions. we are at a university, so i can give you a test, can't i? one comment do you want a you are fired president, or do you president?are hired of course, you want a you are hired president. when this whole campaign is done, the one thing they will remember about donald trump is "you're fired." companies, shifting jobs overseas, stiffing contractors, being against federal minimum wage, being

against equal pay for equal work . he is the your fired guy -- you are fired guy. we have got a you are hired president. college soat free people can build bridges and roads and airports and ports so people can have jobs. let's go for equal pay. let's raise the minimum wage. hired president. all right, you are one for one. was to number two. do you want a trash talking president or a bridge building president? >> bridge building! mr. kaine: donald trump trash talk mexican americans and latinos, whether they aren't you immigrants or federal judges, -- whether they are

new immigrants or federal -- you aresh talks right. he does not trash talk everybody. vladimir putin. but this is a bridge building president. [cheers and applause] mr. kaine: as a member of the armed services committee, i have built close ties with our committee, services built close ties with our military and worked with the treatment of children around the world. she is a bridge builder, and that is what we need. all right, florida international, you are two for two. me-firstnt a president, or do you want a kid's first president? trump, he is a me

first president. share myt sure you -- tax returns pre-donald trump was in britain when they cast the -- share my tax returns. donald trump was in britain when te, andst the brexit vo he said this could be good for my golf course. me first. but we have got a kid's first president. she -- earliest days, i will give you a secret about those of us in politics. if you want to try to judge the character of people in politics, i will tell you how to do with, and it is really simple. see if their life and they have a passion in their life that they have long before they got into politics, a passion that is not about themselves, a passion that is about somebody else, and then

see if they have held onto that passion through the court thin, in good times or bad, -- through thick or thin, in good times or water,me hell or high and see if they have held onto it all of the time, and that is character, and that is our kids and families first hillary clinton! >> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! when i was a kid growing up, harry truman, a great democratic president, a great democratic president, and let me tell you something that harry truman said that could have been written five minutes ago. 1940's,it in the late

and it is so well put. america was not built on fear. america was built on courage, on unbeatable, and an determination to do the job at hand. that one again. america was not built on fear! america was not built on fear. it was built on courage, on imagination, and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand. -- hillarynton clinton filled with that courage. that imagination. and that unbeatable determination. and that is why we trust her to fight for all americans. that is why i am with her. i am with her. are you with her? yes!

tough people.are that is something else i learned from my parents. tough times do not last, but tough people do. they do notot -- come any tougher or any more compassionate than hillary clinton, so let's go make history, and go elect hillary clinton the 45th president of the united states. ♪ ♪ listen, baby high no mountain

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democrats, republicans, and independents and all others. us atrse, you can tweet or leave your comments on our facebook page. again, senator tim kaine, former mayor of richmond, former city council member, the pic by hillary clinton as the -- the pick by hillary clinton as her vice presidential make, and let's go to the calls, and let's start with the line for democrats. what do you think of tim kaine? did a greatink you job. i think he was excellent. i was very presently surprised -- pleasantly surprised, and i cannot wait for election day. host: what do you like about him? the sincerity.

i thought he means well, and he will do the best thing for the american people. calling. thanks for to hampton, virginia, your former governor and one of your senators, tim kaine, and joining us on the republican line, george, what do you think? caller: one of the best selections ever, and tim kaine, i have known him for years. a great woman. and what donald trump says about hillary, he is a criminal. donald trump is a criminal. he should show his taxes. people have to show their taxes for whatever they need. you want to buy a house, you want to do whatever, you show your taxes.

he has to produce his taxes. we are not going to debate him if he does not show us his taxes. marie, portland, oregon, on the line for independents. hi, marie. knew whovious the, we the candidates were, and i do not understand why there have to be millions and billions spent or the dog and pony show, back on the days when there was not all of the social media, that that was necessary, but at this point, it is just over the top baloney, when there is infrastructure that needs fixing, there is housing that needs to be built. they are spending billions of dollars on these dog and pony shows. i think it was ridiculous. host: did you listen to tim kaine?

: i am glad he trusts her. i do not. he seems like a good person, and i am glad he is being brought into the alliance, but i think at this time, the election is going to go the other way, towards mr. trump, and mr. trump scares me. ideology, it will be like a massive takeover of this one name and this one man, and it scares the heck out of me. for your call. tim kaine has been a u.s. senator since 2013. years of age. he served as virginia governor from 2006 until 2010. he has been married over 30 years. he has three kids. he is a former dnc chair, as well. tim kaine, hillary clinton's choice for running mate, and he

will be nominated along with her this week at the democratic national convention in philadelphia. let's go back to more of your calls. mohammed joins us from louisiana, on the line for democrats. go ahead. it is a great choice, and i am proud of hillary, and i she wins the election, and as somebody else said, trump will be all on shoes, that is all. host: thanks for calling. next,, what do you think of tim kaine? caller: i think he is the best other than joe biden. joe biden did a fantastic job for us. i want the american people to go to the arch of the deal, that deal,-- the art of the andbook that trump wrote,

look at the man who wrote it. see what the actual writer says. the idea of this man becoming president is scary. i listened to his 74 minute speech. checked, 83% of what he has said is lies. we cannot afford to have this man. i will do it alone does not work in the united states of america. joining us from washington on the democrat line, hello. caller: i was really surprised with her pic, and i think the democratic party has totally lost sight of what this election was about. i was a sanders supporter.

this election is antiestablishment, both parties, and for her to turn around and an establishment figure for her vice president shall pick, it just blows my mind. jules stein now. i just do not understand. jill stein now. host: who should she have picked? there were several, maybe the lady from massachusetts. senator sanders wanted to do it. vice president is a money raiser and figurehead anyway. picked the guy from new jersey, but to do this, i think she is going to elect donald trump. i certainly will not vote for him. the man, to me, is a tyrant, but

i am disappointed. host: thanks for calling. mark warner from virginia his colleague getting it, and he wrote -- abc news posted a couple of others.rom lindsey graham. it looks like we lost that. we are trying to get it back. we will try to get that on the screen if i can. no. we will come back to that. in the meantime, let's go back to your calls. at joint of technology there the website blows up on us.

and omaha, nebraska, on the democrat line, hi. caller: good afternoon. that shee surprised and again went with the same old, same old establishment. i would have preferred for her to have someone with a little bit more gumption, and obviously him growing up in the catholic faith, and the jesuit faith, it sounds like, the jesuits are very socialistic in taking care of the have-nots, and i agree we need to do that, but we need to do more for the middle class, and quite frankly, she has not shown that she will do that. for those struggling to pay for health care, i would like to and seen more substance left bashing against donald trump. that is my opinion.

-- and less bashing against donald trump. host: calle? -- caller? caller: i have been a republican, longer than he has, and it was a joke when people thought he would run, and you look at his bankruptcies, his speech writer should have been on board right away, because he is a bigot. he has insulted race, religion, and sex. he has talked about building a wall, saying he is a reagan supporter, but it was reagan who went over and had the wall torn and i am sope, sorry that he did not have somebody helping him, but in a way, he is so himself, before the speech writers called him down and told him what to say, every time he opened his mouth, he put his foot in it, and he

has not had organized business practices, and that he talks to himself whenever he needs advice, why has he had so many failed businesses and bankruptcies? .nd i am very concerned if the republican committee convention was an example of how organized he and his political team will be, it is an embarrassment, and the speech writers should have helped his wife. she is a total embarrassment now. from fairfax, virginia, senator tim kaine, getting the knot, the selection of hillary clinton as her running mate. , what do youe nod think? thank you for taking my call.

i do not have a particular problem with senator kaine, but i would like to remind everyone specialig issue is interests, and beyond wall street, there is an issue of taking money from foreign governments, and hillary clinton accepted $10 million from the government of saudi arabia for , andlinton foundation after secretary, she awarded huge arms sales to these same countries. of the government of saudi arabia has been growing after each administration. this is not just the democrats. the republicans under bush after 9/11 served saudi interests first, and then the americans killed in the 9/11 attack, making sure the saudis could leave the country without answering any questions. they have the past -- best public relations firms that

money can buy, and their influence over our government administration going back probably 20 or 30 years, and now they are openly making contributions to candidates, an undue amount of influence, and the idea that somebody can serve us while being on the payroll of saudi arabia is fallacious, and donald the perfectt be messenger, but at least he is not on the payroll of saudi arabia. it is hard to imagine that othersn roosevelt or would be on the payroll of a foreign government. thank you. hillary clinton announced last senator timday that kaine is her running mate, and we have got those tweets back up that we try to get for you. this ingraham tweeted response to the selection --

and jeff flake, the republican senator from arizona, wrote this -- back to your calls. florida,om orlando, hi. calle: high. -- hi. you for taking my call. i am kind of ashamed of being an american right now. me these are our two best candidates that we can get to represent the democrats and republicans, hillary clinton and donald trump. i just want to make one comment and one comment only. everybody is talking about how they want to make america a good again, want to make america great again, went to take

everyone back. first, there needs to be accountability with these politicians to screw to the country up to begin with. during 9/11, we have not gotten ,n investigation into 9/11 nobody wanted to support independent investigation of 9/11. i just want to say this. really, truly ashamed of being an american right now. from florida, the republican line. go ahead, chris. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have to say that senator kaine looks like a good choice. about our own party. my wife and i did not go to the rnc for multiple reasons, but being both a republican and a black man, i was not going to be

the comfortable in my own party, which it should not be. thank you very much for the call. host: thank you. from minneapolis, joining us on the independent line. : thank you for taking my call. how are you all doing today? great. what do you think of hillary clinton picking tim kaine as her running mate? it sounds like a good choice, but as we referred to earlier, the two picks by both candidates are more respectable than the two of front runners, --me, but there are respectable than the two front runners to me, but there are more things going on. nobody wants to point the finger. or trumpillary wins

wins, with its present we have got right now, you can tell that is going to be a problem for whoever wins the election. some good advise on what is going on. i hope these politicians are listening to your show, because you have the best show in america to let people call in and just voice their opinions about what is really going on. calling, c.j.or we will get another caller from pittsburgh. jacqueline is joining us. i did not know him before today, but he seems to be what we need. he has got gumption. it along theatch way, but it is good to see and i am glad the

democrats are having their convention after the republicans, because donald trump and his clan has put into people's heads that we have a miserable country, and that is so untrue. ,or the majority of americans we are hard-working. and when the tough times come, we get through it. we count on each other, and in pittsburgh here, i get out a lot and talk to a lot of people. the overwhelming majority of the people that i have talked to on, theymp has been are just like me, appalled at the way he is talking about our country and what he wants to do and how he wants to do it, not actually how he wants to do it, because he has not said anything how he plans to accomplish the things that he wants to accomplish. and as far as steel mills in

pittsburgh, they did not fail because of politics. they failed because they were aged. they were very old, and at the know who was in office, but they could not refurbish them to get them to the clean air act. it would have cost too much thing thatone other i know for a fact, because when i graduated, all the men want to go to the steel mills, and i've hold -- heard all of the stories. pricing. over they would have other men punch them in and go sit at the bars, so there are a lot, a lot of people responsible for the steel

mills going under in pittsburgh. : thanks for calling, jacqueline. she mentioned the democrats holding their convention two days from now, and that will be in philadelphia, and we will have every minute of it on c-span. you can listen on c-span radio, onthe app, and get video demand on c-span.org. it starts at 3:00 in the afternoon on c-span. tim kaine, introduced today by as her hillary clinton running mate. you heard senator kaine speaking in spanish during a number of times during his speech today in miami. senator kaine, fluent in spanish. years ago, ine of june 2013, he gave an entire floor speech on the floor of the senate regarding immigration, completely in spanish, and you can check that out on our

website, c-span.org. we have that available for you. next up is jesse from new york on the republican line. hi, jesse. for taking myyou call. i just wanted to comment on tim kaine's speech, and he was talking about passion, and the passion that they have had before they got into politics and then after they had been in politics. donald trump had no passion, and hillary had passion. isl, i think trumps passion his family, and he has got a huge, thriving, beautiful, loving family, and they are a great role model as to what an american family should be. i love the prayers before all of end,peeches and before the and honestly, hillary and obama have run this country into the ground. you can look at the stats, people.

our taxes are up. our security is down. people can come and go as they please, and that is why we want to protect the american citizens of this country. yes, let people in, but as long as it is safe to do so, so i am a proud trumped supporter. 12 -- i am a proud trump supporter. that is all i have to say. thank you. california, go ahead, on the line for the independents. excuse me. i think tim kaine is an excellent choice. hillary clinton, she is the most qualified of all of the candidate running. she has been in the white house. she has been the wife of a

president. she has been in the senate. navigate, andto it does take navigation skills to get through all of the politics and go on with congress. i just think they will be a dynamite team. i am very pleased with her selection, and as far as trump goes, trump has done nothing but be negative about our country. our country is a great country. i am proud to be an american, and i really think that him downgrading and denigrating our country is not good for the country. i also like to mention, too, the fact that he spoke in spanish so eloquently, and i am not spanish, but he can relate to different populations of people, and that is needed. these are people in our country. they work very hard, and a lot of times, they are just forgotten or pushed aside. i think it is going to be a

great, great combination. tanks were listening. vegas, andto las treacy on the democrats' line. caller: i have been trying to get through. host: glad you made it. trump was in a diaper, banging on the ground. we are in trouble if he gets in, his finger on the button of the nukes. i cannot believe a word that comes out of his mouth. not handicapped, and i do care for the guy at all. he is a liar. : thanks for calling.

denver on the republican line, go ahead. : i was a democrat. i changed over to the republican party. i am a christian, and i believe that our nation is losing its moral foundation. hillary a plodding planned parenthood, even with the videos coming out of these dismembered little, precious, unborn babies, and that is a terrible indictment against our country. we have what happened in to stand down and let our embassy come under a "demonstration" that got out of unbelievable,hose brave men who lost their lives, the brutal, brutal agony, and we

stood down, it is an outrage. copy, libya with the sitting on tv, with someone -- , and lookar qaddafi at what is going on in libya, and on and on we can go. this woman is morally bankrupt. she has got power. she has got money. politicians and all. but people who love america want to see a moral america. not what we have got. all of this talk, america is great. really? is it great? look at what has happened to us. we are making deals with iran that what death to america and israel. this is an outrage. people can say what they want, andthey can trash trump their family.

even this vice president she has chosen. people are bashing him. what is wrong with us? why don't we take a moral stand and treat each other with human dignity and respect? and that means black lives matter, what white lives matter, and the indians and the mexicans and the asians whatever. all life matters, and particularly, we have lost millions upon millions of unborn babies. who knows what they would have become if their mothers had not aborted them. i stopped them out. or whatever. what kind of a society is this? we are not great. we murder our unborn children. countries ander cause refugees to have to seek asylum, and then they are barred, and they are living on the dirt with no food or water, and they have got babies in their arms. this is what our power has done,

because we decide who lives, who dies? thank you, deborah, you have got the last word. senator hillary clinton choosing tim kaine as her running mate, two days ahead of the convention "washingtonhia, and journal" tomorrow morning will be focused on the convention ahead, 7:30 a.m., and with the philadelphia inquirer, tom fitzgerald joins us with a convention preview. whoer governor ed randel, is the host committee chair, will be joining us at 8:30 a.m. east coast time, and then will bunch with another preview at 9:00 a.m.. journal." on sunday, representative

greg walden, the chair of the national republican group rational committee. that is sunday, and then looking ahead to monday, our convention coverage begins at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. the democratic convention in philadelphia this week live on c-span. you can listen on the c-span radio app and get video on demand at c-span.org. now, we're going to take you back to a short time ago to miami at florida international university arena with hillary clinton introducing senator tim kaine of virginia as her running mate. ♪ no mountain high enough enougho valley low to keep me from getting to you, babe ♪ remember, i told you you

could always count on me from that day on, i made a vow i would be with you somehow ♪ in't no mountain high enough ain't no valley low enough no river wide enough to keep me from getting to you, babe ♪ ♪ >> [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] my love is alive although we are miles apart no mountain high and a --

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[cheers and applause] miami!inton: [cheers and applause] i am so excited and grateful to be here with all of you. [cheers and applause] i must say, after everything we have just seen at the republican convention this past week -- [booing] mrs. clinton: being here with you on this beautiful day is truly like a breath of fresh air. [cheers and applause] when i look out at all of you, you know what i see? i see america's future. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: instead of the fear and the anger and the

resentment, the lack of any solutions to help working families get ahead or keep our country safe, i sense the confidence, the optimism that, you know what? , and wetronger together are going to make that future better. [cheers and applause] trump anton: donald think america is in decline, but he is wrong. america's best days are still ahead of us, my friends. [cheers and applause] and when he said, can fixd say, "i alone it" -- [booing] onlyclinton: he is not wrong, he is dangerously wrong.

we americans, we solve problems together, and if donald does not understand that, he does not understand america. i know that no one does anything all alone. challenge is to make sure we do work together. to workingg forward with your elected officials. i want to thank senator bill nelson, who was with me yesterday in orlando and tampa. [cheers and applause] i want to thank congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. [cheers and applause] and i am looking forward to working with her and with congresswoman frederica wilson. [cheers and applause]

mrs. clinton: and congresswoman alcee hastings. [cheers and applause] to. clinton: and i want thank all of the elected officials of all levels of government who are in here and our vision for the country. [cheers and applause] now, next week -- next week in philadelphia, we will offer a very different vision for our country, one that is about building bridges, not walls. [cheers and applause] embracing the diversity that makes our country great. [cheers and applause] lifting each other up, standing together, because we know there is nothing we cannot accomplish once we make up our minds. [cheers and applause]

and that is why i am so thrilled to announce that my running mate is a man who does not just share those values , he lives them. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: i have to say -- i have to say that senator tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. [cheers and applause] he is qualified to step into this job and lead on and he is a progressive

who likes to get things done. [cheers and applause] that is just my kind of guy. we both grew up in the midwest. we were raised by fathers who ran small businesses and who taught us about the dignity of work and the discipline of a job well done, and in both of our wasn't justith something you talked about in .hurch on sundays it was a call to serve others in every way that we can. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: and as you get to know senator kaine, you will see lifelong commitment to social justice is a shining example of his faith in action. ,ou know, during law school

when his fellow classmates were taking internships at prestigious law firms, he took time off to work with missionaries in honduras. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: at after he graduated from harvard law school, he could have done after he-- and graduated from harvard law school, he could have done anything. instead, he chose to become a civil rights lawyer. one of his first cases was a pro bono case, representing a woman who was denied an apartment because she was african-american. [booing] was clinton: so while tim

taking on housing discrimination donald trumpess, was denying apartments to people who were african-american. [booing] mrs. clinton: he is still ,ighting those battles today serving as a nonpartisan city council member, then the mayor of richmond, virginia. [cheers and applause] to. clinton: he worked hard bridge racial divides, he built the first new schools in a generation, he helped turn that city around, and as governor of virginia, he led the commonwealth through the worst financial crisis in a generation . what did he do? he brought democrats and republicans together to protect the programs that working families count on. [cheers and applause]

and wild mike mike penceile and gave moreg tax cuts to the wealthiest, tim kaine cut his own salary and invested in education from pre-k through college and beyond. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: and by the time tim left office, 40% more of ds were enrolled in early-education programs. and then, as a united states used his position

on the foreign relations and toed services committees stand up for our veterans and our values and our men and women in uniform and our security. [cheers and applause] now, there is no doubt in my mind, because i am here with him -- [laughter] is solinton: that tim qualified to be vice president, and as i have said many times, the most important qualification when you are trying to make this , can this choice is person stepped in to be president? well, at every stage of tim's career, the people who know him best have voted to give him a promotion, and that is because -- [cheers and applause] that is because he

fights for the people he represents, and he delivers real result. of, i cannot wait for all you to get to know him the way that i have, the proud father of , who haven up kids their own lives and are making their own contributions, including serving our country. [cheers and applause] a loving husband of a brilliant wife, who -- [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: is a great fighter for progressive causes in her .wn right a leader who cares more about making a difference than making headlines, and -- [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: and make no mistake. also hasat smile, tim

a backbone of steel. just ask the nra. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: over and over again, he has had the courage to stand up to the gun lobby in their own backyard. [cheers and applause] horribleton: after the virginia tech shooting, he signed an executive order to keep guns out of the hands of those who redeem severely deemedy ill -- who were to be severely mentally ill, and he has spot for commonsense gun reform across the country -- he has fought for commonsense gun reform across the country.

asking that we get those reforms done. so when i say he is a progressive who likes to get things done, i mean it. he is not afraid to take on special interests, whether it is calling for tougher regulations on payday lending or fighting back against attacks on planned or women making their own health decisions, tim has led on some of the most important issues facing our country, from voting rights to lgbt of quality -- [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: to criminal to comprehensive immigration reform. [cheers and applause]

now, after last week, i probably do not need to say this, but i will. is one of the most consequential elections in our lifetime. , "i alone canays fix it" -- [booing] mrs. clinton: that should set off alarm bells in not just but with' minds republicans and people of all ages and backgrounds. that is not a democracy. [cheers and applause] i said -- i said yesterday in tampa, we fought a we did not because

want one man making all of the decisions for us. [cheers and applause] and besides, it is just nonsense. no one does anything alone. we do not have a one-person military. we do not have a one-person teaching corps. we do not have one doctor and one nurse who fixes everything, do we? we work together. that is what has traditionally set us apart from places that have turned to single leaders, dictators, authoritarians, who have promised people, "i can fix it alone." you know what that tells us question mark that we cannot do it ourselves, that we cannot

reach out to others, that we cannot make the economy work for everyone, not just those at the top. -- you know what that tells us? that we cannot do it ourselves. that, and in philadelphia, you will see a different kind of vision. [cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! mrs. clinton: so i wanted to come here to miami. i wanted to come here to introduce you to the person that i just cannot think of anybody better to have by my side on the campaign trail, in the white house. together, we are going to take arehe challenges that

hurting americans. we are going to give the middle class a raise. we are going to give tax relief to middle families to help with of raising kids. we are going to create jobs. we are going to make sure every child in america has a chance to live up to his or her god-given potential. so, please, join us -- join us. take out your phone right now. to text "join" or go hillaryclinton.com, because we are hiring organizers in florida right now, so be involved in every way that you can't, because together, we are going to win the election -- so be involved in every way that you , because together, we are

going to win the election and take america forward. now, my friend, senator tim kaine. [cheers and applause] [no audio] [cheers and applause] hey, guys, thank you. hello, miami. hello, fiu. [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish] [cheers and applause] sen. kaine: i am feeling a lot of things today. most of all, gratitude. [applause] i'm grateful to you, hillary, for the trust you placed in me, and we are going to be --

[speaking spanish] [cheers and applause] sen. kaine: i am grateful to the country who has given me so much. i am grateful to all of you floridians, virginians, all americans for their hearts into this wonderful, wonderful campaign. [cheers and applause] sen. kaine: and today, like every day, i am especially grateful to my wife, ann. [applause] i love you, honey. i love you, honey. and to my three beautiful kids. i am the luckiest dad, and the luckiest has been in the world. -- husband in the world. [cheers and applause] this is quite a week for me. believe it or not, for as

powerful as it is to become hillary clinton's running mate, that is not the only thing on my mind this week. our oldest son is here today with his fiancee. he is a proud marine. [applause] and in just a few days you will be deploying to europe to oh america'shold commitment to our allies. [applause] sen. kaine: nearly 2 million men and women put their lives on the line for this country as active duty, as reserves, as guard members. they deserve a commander and chief with the experience and temperament to lead. [applause]

is -- what does donald trump say about is great americans, these 2 million? he repeatedly calls the american military, "a disaster." [boos] and he said that as president he would continue turning america back on our decades old commitments to our allies. [booing] sen. kaine: and all of you remember a few months ago what you said about a senate colleague, a senator, john mccain, that he was not a hero because he was captured and is served as a prisoner of war in vietnam. and he wants to be commander-in-chief. while our service members are out there on the front lines, donald trump is saying he would leave allies at the mercy of an

aggressive russia -- that is an open invitation to vladimir .utin to roll in even a lot of republicans say that that is terribly dangerous. ok, i am hiring for the speech writing team. we have seen again and again, when donald trump says he has your back you better watch out. [applause] sen. kaine: from atlantic city to his so-called university, he leaves a trail of broken promises and lies wherever he goes. [applause] afford to let him do the same thing to our country. and folks, we do not have to because hillary clinton is the direct opposite of donald trump. [applause]

[chanting "hillary"] sen. kaine: hillary clinton -- hillary clinton, she does not insult people, she listens to them. what a novel concept, right? she does not trash our allies, she respects them. and she will always have our back, that is something i am rock solid sure of. [applause] sen. kaine: and i know that because hillary knows that we are stronger together. we are stronger when we work together, when we pull together, when we live in the same neighborhood and we go to go -- go to school together, and when we are together we are stronger. be anymore not

honored to stand by hillary's side in this very important campaign. >> we love you. [applause] spent most of my life in public service because i believe in doing everything i can to make a positive difference in people's lives. i can see a lot of you out there who feel the same way. exactly the same way. of only 20 people in american history to serve as a mayor, governor, and a u.s. senator. [applause] i have been able to see how government works and how sometimes it does not, just from every perspective. and i have always believed that however you serve, what matters is if you actually deliver

results for people. and that has been my goal. that has been my goal in every position i have ever held. now i know that for a lot of you this might be the first time you are hearing me speak. let me be honest, for many of you this is the first time you have heard my name. [laughter] sen. kaine: that is ok call because i am excited for us to get to know one another. today i thought i might tell you about me and where i come from. [applause] vice president was never a job i thought about growing up in kansas. like a lot of people in kansas city, my parents were not that into politics. church, the kansas city royals, that is what we spent time talking about. they had too much going on. organizedran a union

shop in kansas city. and my mom, in addition to all the challenges that my two brothers and me were, she was a saleswoman. that hard-working business was tough, the kind of job where he cannot cut corners if you are not careful you can make one mistake and ruin a lot of work in an instant. i learned that working in my dad's shot. my brothers and i extend. -- pitched in. my dad would wake us up and say, i need you guys. the last day of summer vacation once, i was so looking for to sleeping in and i felt that he on my shoulder at about -- hand on my shoulder at about 6:00 a.m.. and i -- but that is what we would do. we would try to get the work done before the day got hot. that is what families do. [applause] parents, they are

alive and healthy and happy today, 81 years old. early lessons that have guided my life. the importance of hard work. of faith and kindness and following your dreams. my mom was not much of a lecture. she would live and we would follow the example. me, you need told to decide if you want to be right or do right. if you want to be right, go ahead and be a pessimist. if you want to do right, the an optimist. and i have been an optimist ever since. [applause] sen. kaine: i went to a jesuit school. it was in kansas city. ok, some jesuits in the

audience. i like that. the motto was "men for others," and that is what we were taught. and that is our faith, which is important to me, and it grew into something more viable. it became like my north star, my organizing principle for what i wanted to do. even as a young man, i knew i wanted to do something to devote myself to social justice. and and that is why after raising to missouri andy of starting at harvard law school, i decided to take a year off to volunteer with jesuit missionaries and hunt doors. [speaking spanish] [applause] sen. kaine: when i got to hunt nduras,my recently -- ho the experience of working in my op was helpful and they

helped me learn spanish. and i tell you. my time in that country changed my life in so many ways. spanish] [applause] here is something that really stuck with me. i got a firsthand look at a system, this is 1980 and 1981, it dictatorship where a few folks had all the power and everybody else got left behind.

and it convinced me that we're got to advance opportunity and equality for everybody, no matter where they come from, how much money they have, what they look like. what accent may have or who they love. [applause] sen. kaine: in 1970, a republican governor of virginia believed exactly the same thing. the integrated virginia public schools after the state had fought for 16 years after brown v board to keep them in segregated. [applause] sen. kaine: in 1970 in virginia, that took political courage, and then he and his wife went even further. they enrolled their own kids, including their daughter anne in integrated schools and sent a strong signal to the people of virginia that their governor was not going to back down, was not

going to make rules for others that he would not follow for himself. [cheers and applause] so, many years later that young , went to to princeton law school guided by her , experience, and one day in a study group, she met kind of a nerdy guy who had been out teaching kids in honduras. anne and i got married over 30 years ago in richmond, virginia. [applause] sen. kaine: that is the parish that we still belong to today. hey, st. e's folks, we will be there at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. marrying anne was the best decision of my life.

right -- am i right? and it turns out she actually learned negotiation better than i did in law school. we settled down and we started a family and we sent our kids to those same public schools that her father had opened up to everybody. [cheers and applause] including one school that i helped build when i was mayor after their civil rights hero grandfather.

now, his example helped expire -- inspire me to represent people that were turned away from housing either because of the color of their skin or because they were an american with a disability. this was my civil rights work for 17 years. i brought dozens of lawsuits in private practice, battling banks, landlords, insurance companies, and even local government. that had treated people unfairly. in 1998, i won a historic verdict against an insurance company because they have been redlining minority neighborhoods, treating them unfairly in the issue of homeowners insurance. at the time i won that case, it was the biggest jury verdict in a civil rights case in american history. i like to fight for rights. [applause] sen. kaine: i like to fight for

rights. and i found myself going to city council meetings to raise the issues i was dealing with on behalf of my clients. but i was frustrated by the division and infighting, so in 1994, i did something that seems even crazier than what i am doing now. [laughter] sen. kaine: i decided to run for office. man, i was so scared, but i wanted to help my city and community. i knocked on every door. i won by 94 votes, the first of squeakers.ter's and and as i often said, if i am good at anything in public life, it is because i started at the local level listening to people, , learning about their lives, and finding a consensus to solve

the problem. [applause] sen. kaine: in the years that followed, i became mayor of richmond. i was elected lieutenant governor, and in 2006 i became the 70th governor of virginia. when we moved into the governor's mansion after the inauguration, my wife became the only person who ever lived there first as a child and then as an adult. [cheers] we had to make tough decisions when i was in office, because it was the deepest recession since the 1930's, but that did not stop us from expanding early childhood education, from building more classrooms and facilities on our college campuses so that more can go to school -- because we knew that education was a key to everything we wanted to achieve as a state and it is the key to

, everything we want to achieve as a nation. invested in open space preservation and cleaning up the chesapeake bay, because our kids and grandkids deserve to enjoy the beautiful commonwealth that we love, just like you love the beauty of your sunshine state. [applause] sen. kaine: and we achieved national recognition for our work in tough times. when i was governor of virginia, -- best state in america, it allowed a child to have a successful life, best date for business, one of the lowest unemployment rates, when of the highest bond ratings. i am proud to carry that work forward as a virginia senator serving on the armed services, , foreign relations, and budget committees. they just added me to the aging committee.

i do not know why they did that? [laughter] i am proud to support my wife's work. she is secretary of education for the, what of virginia. and -- [applause] sen. kaine: we are both so proud of our commonwealth and our great nation. isn't it great already? isn't it great already? what a great country. as i look back over these experiences, what i have learned is that god created a rich and beautiful tapestry in this country. it is a rainbow of cultural diversity that embraces all people -- [applause] sen. kaine: regardless of their race or economic status, regardless of their religion or

gender, regardless of their sexual orientation or where they are from. we got this beautiful country that should be a country of wealth, a country of inclusion, and i know that that is a fundamental value that hillary clinton shares. you know? [applause] i am a catholic. and hillary is a methodist. and i know that her. ed is the same as mine. be of service to one another. now, that is a notion that americans of every moral tradition believes in, and that is the message hillary clinton has taken to heart for her entire life. for her entire life.

[applause] sen. kaine: fighting for children and families, like when she was first lady, after she tried and a recalcitrant , congress blocked her with a big advance we needed on health said, you knowe what? i am not stopping. can we pass a program to provide health insurance to 8 million more children? and that is what she did. that is what she did. that is what she fought for. [cheers and applause] fighting for equal rights for african-americans, for latinos, for people with disabilities, for lgbt americans. [applause] sen. kaine: in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, fighting tenaciously to make sure that 9/11 first responders in new york and other localities would get health benefits.

[applause] are a lot: now, there of people who put their trust and faith in hillary i'm a and -- hillary, and she has always delivered for them. working for the children's defense fund, first lady of arkansas, the senator, secretary of state, she has always delivered. [applause] and -- ne: [chanting] and you know what? there is something you can tell about a great leader. she has not only delivered in the easy times, she has delivered in the tough times and when she is on the receiving end of one attack after another.

she never back down. she never backs down. [applause] hillary, whatever the drama, the attack, the situation, she focuses on what matters -- helping people. that is what keeps her going. this is how we will continue the work, with a strong, progressive agenda. [applause] we are going to make the american economy work for everybody, not just those at the top. not just those at the top. and we will do that by making the largest investment in good paying jobs since world war ii. [applause] sen. kaine: we will make college debt-free for everybody.

[applause] we will rewrite the rules so that companies share profits with workers rather than ship jobs overseas. and we will make sure that wall street operations and the wealthy -- corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. [applause] sen. kaine: and while we're on the subject of taxes, where our donald trump -- are donald trump's tax returns? [booing] sen. kaine: raise your hands if you think that those returns will show that he paid his fair share of taxes. we will fight for equal pay for women and raising the minimum wage.

keep families together, to keep families together, and bring them out of the shadows in the first 100 days of our administration we will put forward a conference of immigration reform package that shows a path to citizenship. [applause] [speaking spanish] [applause] i will encourage you , if you have not done this, go to a naturalization service where people become citizens. how many of you -- raise your hands if you have been a naturalized citizen.

thank you for choosing us. thank you for choosing us. if you have not been to one of those services, it will be one of the most powerful things you have ever seen. after the oath is taken come oftentimes there is an open mic and people say why they have decided, this is why i have become a citizen of the u.s., and will bring tears to your eyes and a smile to your face when you do what people think about the greatness of the united states of america. [applause] ]chanting sen. kaine: and when you go to one of these naturalization services and you see the people's desire to join this great country, you will basically have this pretty

amazing thought. spanish] lovesaine: anybody who america this much deserves to be here. [applause] is oneine: now, there last part of hillary's plan that means a lot to me personally, that is kind of emotional for me and i bet it is for you, how to stem the academic -- epidemic of gun violence that kills thousands of americans every year. as governor during one of the most horrible shootings in america's history, this issue is very close to my heart. very close to my heart. and i know that many of you here feel exactly the same way after that tragic shooting in orlando in june. [applause]

sen. kaine: we can do better, folks. we can do better. about in april of 2007, halfway through my time as governor, i had just arrived in japan on a trade mission to bring jobs back to japan. i fell asleep in my hotel and the head of my security detail said, turn on the tv, there is a horrible shooting underway at virginia tech, this wonderful college in virginia. and as jetlagged as i was, i said take me back to the airport. i was getting my first plane home. -- walked onto that onto that campus and i knew that as a leader, i do not have any magic words to say that would take away the tragedy come at had to bring comfort to the families that had been killed, the students and professors that had been injured, and also to

the first responders who had been there to help them. this -- [applause] april 16, 2007, that of my life.t day it was the worst day of so many people's lives, and for the parents and loved ones of those kids and professors, that pain never goes away. plusous 17-year-olds, a 70 year old who was a holocaust survivor, that could survive the holocaust, who could survive the soviet takeover of his country, but who fell victim to gun violence because he blocked the door and told his students to climb out the window as his body

was riddled with bullets. survived the holocaust, the soviet takeover of his country and fell victim in virginia to the poor -- the horror of american gun violence. so the vast majority of americans agree that we must adopt common sense measures. hillary and i will not rest -- will not rest, we will not rest. [applause] -- we will notil rest. [chanting] sen. kaine: we will not rest until we get universal background checks and close the loopholes that put guns in the hands of terrorists, criminals, and those who should not have them. it is so easy. gun owners want it.

nra members wanted. americans want it. i know the nra, the headquarters are in my state. they campaigned against me and every statewide race that i have ever run, but i never lost an election. i never lost an election. [applause] mindkaine: i do not powerful groups campaigning against me, that is like an extra cup of coffee to me. it gets me more excited. i am 8-0 and i promise i am not allowed -- i am not about to let that change. especially when donald trump stands in the way of progress on everything the one of these issues that hillary has laid out in her campaign and many more. so now i am going to wrap this up. we are at a university, i can give a test, right?

three questions to ask yourself. firedo you want a you are president, or a you are hired president? donald trump is the you are fired guy. that is what he is known for. and when this election is done, that is one thing people were remember about this, is donald trump, you are fired. bankrupting companies, shifting jobs overseas, shifting contractors, being against federal minimum wage, equal pay for equal work, these are your fire guys. we got the you are hired president. [applause] do debt-freeet's college, let's build bridges and roads so people can have jobs. let's go for equal pay and raise

the minimum wage. bring back the dignity and respect for work with the you are hired president. ok, you are 1-1. question two, do you want a trash talking president or a bridge building president? >> bridge building. sen. kaine: of course you do, donald trump trash talks folks with disabilities, trash talks mexican-americans, whether they are new immigrants or governors of federal judges, he trash talks women, trash talks are allies, calls the military a disaster. you are right, he does not trash talk everybody. he likes vladimir putin. but this is a bridge builder presidents. . [applause] as a member of the armed services committee, built

great ties with our military families. as secretary of state, made history building relationships across the world that are central to foreign policy, the treatment of women and children, that is what we need. she is a bridge builder. ok florida international, you are 2-2. do you want a me first president or a kid and families first president? meh donald trump it is first. i will run a university that will take people's money and rip them off. donald trump, donald trump was in great britain when they cast the brexit vote to leave the eu and as the british pound, the unit of currency, getting pummeled, he said this could be good news for my golf course. me first. [booing]

sen. kaine: but we have a kids and families first president. [applause] sen. kaine: who from her earliest days has been -- i will tell you something, i will tell you a secret about this -- about us in politics. if you want to judge somebody in politics, it is really simple. look at their life and see if they have a passion in their life that they had long before they got into politics. a passion that is not about themselves, a passion about somebody else. and see if they have held onto that passion through thick and thin, and good times and bad, whether winning elections or lose elections, come hell or high water, look to see if they have a passion about somebody else and look to see if they have held onto it. that is character.

that is our kids and families first, hillary clinton. [applause] [chanting "hillary} ] sen. kaine: ok, when i was a kid growing up my favorite president was another kansas city guy, harry truman. great democratic president. and let me tell you something that harry truman said that could have been written five minutes ago. he said it in the late 1940's and it is so well put. america was not built on fear. america was built on courage, on imagination, and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand. that is so good. america was not built on fear.

it was built on courage, on imagination, and on an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand. --ends, hillary clinton hillary clinton is filled with sachar is, that imagination, and that unbeatable determination and that is why we trust her to fight for all americans. that is why it am -- why i am with her. are you with her? [applause] sen. kaine: that is why we are with her. these are tough times for many in our country club but we are tough people. that is something else i learned. tough times do not last month but tough people do -- last, but tough people do. and they do not come any tougher , or any more compassionate man hillary clinton -- than hillary

clinton. so let's make history and elect hillary clinton as the president of the united states. [applause] ♪

>> artest is the co-author of the vp advantage. he is also an associate professor at elizabethtown college.

he joins us from harrisburg, pennsylvania. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. you are here to talk about the importance of vice presidential picks, so what do you think of hillary clinton's choice? guest: hillary clinton has said that she wanted somebody with experience, somebody that could relate to foreign policy issues and tim kaine is somebody that could step in and the president if there was an unforeseen circumstance, like the debt of the president,, or impeachment. he has political experience, he was the mayor of richmond, lieutenant governor of virginia, governor of virginia, now a u.s. --ator representing the u.s. representing the colwell of virginia. he has a lot of experience. host: there has been a lot of discussion about his potential

benefit to her as a running mate and winning the white house in november, with virginia as a swing state and the fact that he speaks spanish fluently. what has your research found about the influence of vice presidential candidates on the actual election? my co-author and i recently wrote a book where we raise the question of whether or not by presidential running mates deliver votes in their home states and whether or not they help to deliver votes on a national scale. but by and large what we find based on three different empirical methods that we employ in the book, not relying on just one method, we find that on average the vice president for candidates do not deliver a statistically distinguishable home state advantage. instead, what we do find is a conditional effect, where candidates who come from

relatively less popular states, the smaller states, and if those candidates have a wealth of political experience as officeholders in that state, that is when we are most likely to observe statistically significant home state advantage. so the question, somebody as a political institution within a state, are they so popular that they would be able to broadly appeal to everybody throughout the state and went over their hearts and minds and motivate people to vote for presidential ticket sibley because of the vice presidential candidate. our analysis to jessica does not offer -- happen as some commentators to just it does. host: we were talking about tim kaine's experience, a longtime politician, do you think that his candidacy might be the exception to the role -- rule? guest: it is pretty unlikely. one reason why virginia -- why,

virginia is a large, diverse state. example.ve an the data suggests that somebody like joe biden, vice presidential candidate that received home state advantage, but a state like delaware is fairly small. there are only three counties and joe biden wasn't somebody known as a political institution within the state. he was in the senate for multiple decades, and he served at the county level government before he ran for the u.s. senate. tim tim kaine -- while kaine has a wealth of political experience, it is not clear if he has the image of being a political institution in virginia that would allow voters to examine the democratic ticket, and put aside feelings for the presidential candidate, their policy preferences, and

instead focus on the vice presidential candidate when making a choice at the ballot box. host: we want to let our viewers and listeners know that they can join in the conversation. democrats, republicans, independents can call. you can also send us a tweet. again, we are talking with the co-author of the "vp advantage." kyle, we have talked a lot about hillary clinton. let's talk about donald trump and his choice as a running mate, what do you make of that? guest: that is who i thought made sense, particularly in regards to the divisions within the republican party. one reason why a presidential candidate might select a running mate is not just for health in

terms -- help in terms of governing, or ", but also to help with party unity. as many realize, donald trump's candidacy has been divisive and that has been shown by senator ted cruz's comments at the rnc. so mike pence has conservative credentials, he is an evangelical, he also has executive experience as governor of indiana. so i think that that was a way that the donald trump campaign could help reassure some skeptical members of their publican party as well, plus whatever donald trump was evaluating running mate's he made comments time and time again that he would evaluate a running mate that had washington experience. donald trump obviously is an outsider and he has used that to his benefit on the campaign trail, but for his -- from his

perspective, he would believe having somebody with a great deal of experience would come in handy once in the white house. a buddy that could reach out to -- somebody that could reach out to the congress. host: you mentioned the importance of party unity and the selection process for a vice presidential candidate, but as we saw at the rnc, it did not seem like there was a lot of unity within the party. can mike pence bridge the gap? guest: it is possible, but it will take work. i will not say that it is going to be a cakewalk, but it is possible. a lot will depend on the presidential candidate's tone and rhetoric. when we are discussing the appeal of the vice president, first and foremost, the presidential elections are about the presidential candidates. so if donald trump is not say

the types of things that skeptical members within the republican party wants to hear him say and offer reassurances, it will be hard for mike pence to make that up on behalf of donald trump. i think those members of the presidential ticket really have to show some conservative policies to help win over any skeptical members of the republican party. or democrat,can can you talk about the political calculations and the selective process that a vice presidential candidate undergoes. guest: that is a great question and also the subject of a report by the bipartisan policy center in washington dc some months ago. the short answer, there is not a standard way of selecting vice presidential candidates. it varies from campaign to campaign, election year to election year. some campaigns take a lot of

et candidates,- v they will campaign with potential running mates. we saw that with hillary clinton this past time, appearing with a number of finalists, including tim kaine. but other times, it is not possible due to timing. a great example would be the 1972 presidential election, particularly on the democratic side. thate lead up to the dnc year there was an expectation that senator ted kennedy would be the running mate for george mcgovern. but then he turned it down. and as mcgovern started to approach other running mate, the two were not interested -- they also were not interested. so a last minute decision was made. and there is no meaningful vetting that took place in the election year, because it was a

last-minute decision. and it backfired on mcgovern, what ended up happening was in the days that followed there were news reports that questioned that vice presidential pick's mental health. it concerned a great number of voters, particularly at the time of the height of the cold war. some of them saw thomas eagleton as the person that was next in line for the presidency, do you want somebody with mental health issues within their finger on the proverbial button. so i think that both parties are aware of that and in the future some campaigns will come up with a more standardized method of selecting a vice presidential running mate. host: we will turn to the callers. darius on the independent line. caller: good morning. i am calling because i do have a question about the vice

presidential picks. as you stated before, this is a presidential election and most people are worried about the presidential candidates. the vice president of candidates are kind of adding to the bandwagon of either you will jump on it or not. and i chose very early not to vote for hillary or donald trump and i am still undecided. making the vice presidential picks has not made me move. when i sit and think about the role of our government and what it should be in what we should be doing in the world in general. i also served in the military and it is just really crazy as i hear a lot of people call-in and they say, we need to go to war and do this and that. i think a lot of people have not done anything. just be quiet and listen to those people that have gone out

and done some of these things. and kaine does not seem like one of these individuals. he supported the ptp, maybe you can expand on that. host: ok. guest: i think that darius makes a good point. not a great many voters are significantly swayed by the vice presidential candidate selection. and even in the news in recent days leading up to the selection, the reports have seemed to characterize tim kaine as a safe selection for hillary clinton, somebody that is characterized as "boring." and that is a way that he has described himself as well. so it is somebody that will be low-key, one would think, on the campaign trail.

and this is something that the campaign would like to emphasize, they do not want the vice presidential candidate to overshadowe the presidential candidate. these are important things the campaign has to consider as they work through the next few months. host: tom from pennsylvania on the republican line. good morning. caller: my question is, which one of the candidates gives an edge in aid to the scenario? guest: that is a great question. year'sy, i think this debate between mike pence and tim kaine could be pretty meaty in terms of issues. they are both seasons politicians, they are used to speaking before the audiences, answering a variety of political questions, so i am not sure this

year who i would give the edge to. certainly if somebody is going into a debate, that will make -- if somebody is ill prepared going into a debate, that would -- pollsfference but this year to cf vice presidential debate have an effect. generally it does not. that could be for a variety of reasons, because residents are more important, but the fact that there are more debate and after the vice presidential debates they are not talking about their individual opinions, they are talking more about in terms of what would hillary clinton do, what would donald trump do in the next four years? so they are playing a support role. host: tony from atlantic city, what is your question or comment? think that thet

vice presidential pick really matters, because at the end of the day i am looking at what the president is going to do. the way i look at it, from what donald trump is saying and with hillary clinton, it is a no-brainer. i am in for hillary clinton and i do not care if she put -- p icked ronald mcdonald. host: ok. just a reminder. you can call in with your questions or comments. you can also send us a tweet. cspanwj.le is @ we are talking with the vp."thor of "the you are quoted in the

philadelphia observer, five of the top vice presidential attack iss in american history, that typically the role that they play on the campaign trail? guest: often times, it is. it depends on the personality of the riser presidential candidate, but this is a campaign strategy that many campaigns have used. what this allows the presidential candidate to do his focus on a vision for the entire country. what do they hope to accomplish once they are elected. it allows them to appear more presidential. so is the vice president of candidate can't assume the role of the -- can assume the role of the attack dog, it really allows the presidential candidate to remain above the fray. so i am not sure how that will play out this year. this seems to be turning

that model on its head. guest: yes. donald trump has never shied away from criticism, so is it necessary that mike pence would play that role? that is not clear. this is a strategic decision that each campaign must make for themselves. host: jonathan on the republican line. did the trump selection of mike pence make a difference to you? caller: i need to do more research on him. but i did have a question on hillary clinton. my question is, what kind of impact do you think this will have on the convention? her trust is at an all-time low and nobody really likes her. she has a big gap in the youth vote. this will not really hope anything with the uprising of

the occupied wall street -- occupy wall street. i know about this guy. he is the big banks and the bailouts. he is everything that the party supporters -- bernie supporters hate. so this is just an -- so there will be on c-span for all of the --nie sanders supporters host: we will be revisiting the question and opening up the phone lines at the end of the show. right now, we are talking with vpe co-author of the " advantage." guest: he did not know a lot about mike pence and he is not alone. there are many voters who are

not familiar with him. and i am sure that there are many other voters who are not familiar with tim kaine. there was 80's and politico -- piece in politico discussing it, many of the finalists were unknown on a national level. so it is pretty difficult for that to influence the vote choice. certainly voters might learn more about them throughout the campaign, but there -- they are not as visible as the presidential candidates. and with hillary clinton's trustworthiness, this is something that has been discussed in the lead up to selections, could a vice presidential candidate help portray a candidate in a certain way, where maybe the influence perception of the candidate. it is possible, but it is not exactly clear if the vice presidential candidate will be able to make hillary clinton

look more trustworthy. that seems like a tall order. certainly senator kaine could talk to this issue. it is kindly hard for a vice presidential candidate to be everything to everyone in helping reframe the presidential candidate. that will be the job of the presidential mandate to ship perceptions about his or her candidacy. host: ruth from pennsylvania is calling. go ahead. you are on the air. caller: my comment is that it goes to show you just like obama. he did not think too much of the people that worked to put him in office. he said to the jews we are taking israel. to the people that want to get into the country, don't worry, i will take care of you. he said to blacks i am everybody's president. and here goes hillary.

she knows out of all the picks he is in with the banks just like she is. she went on the tour, with what she said about us before her husband was president. she thinks because we don't have anywhere else to go we will go with her. she might be wrong about that. if we can get some of these democrats, or people that think like us that everybody should , have an equal chance, we might just not vote for her but vote for a lot of democrats that say they want more progression as a choice. host: ruth from pennsylvania. kyle kopko? guest: to her point, there is a

lot of anguish obviously and disappointment with some of the presidential candidates this year. about a month and a half ago the washington post produced a poll that showed both donald trump and hillary clinton had historically high disapproval ratings. both were in the mid to high 50's, which has never really happened before in the modern presidential era. because of that, folks are looking for alternative choices. obviously that is why we hear more about gary johnson this time around. when we dug into the data, my co-author and i, our analysis suggests vice presidential candidates could matter at the margin, particularly if the presidential candidates, as is the case this year, have very high disapproval ratings. if the vice presidential candidate is viewed more

favorably in relation to their running mate that could move the , needle ever so slightly in favor of that ticket. it is still pretty unlikely. by our estimates the presidential candidate, their evaluations have three times the weight of vice president of candidates. given that so many people just don't know too much about mike pence or tim kaine this election cycle, it is unlikely they will have that big of an influence, if any at all that is statistically distinguishable. that remains to be seen, a lot can happen in the next four months leading up we will have to we will have to stay tuned to november, find out. host: kyle kopko, your research looked at historical elections going back several decades. is it possible that we are in a moment where the impact of the vice president could be changing. there was a story on fox news that cited home state advantage

for vice presidential picks in alaska in 2008 and delaware in 2008 and 2012. wisconsin in 2012. could that be shifting -- could the way that voters view vice president of candidates be shifting? guest: it is possible. there was a great book that was recently published by a law professor at st. louis university. "the white house vice presidency." came out from the university of kansas press. he takes an institutional approach to examine the office of the vice president. one of his main conclusions is the office has changed dramatically in recent decades. it has become more of a significant influence within the west wing. historically speaking the vice , president did not have a lot of power. their primary constitutional job was to preside over the united states senate if there was a tie vote. they would have the ability to break the tie vote. if something happened to the president, they could then assume the office of president.

but now what we see is the vice president assuming more of a policy advisor role on behalf of the president. someone who could be a trusted advisor. also someone who can be an , emissary from the white house to capitol hill to help advance legislation. and vice presidents now also assume responsibility of several special projects on behalf of the white house. it remains to be seen if this trend will continue. but, if the vice president plays an increasingly important role in the day-to-day work of the white house and our federal government, voters may take the vice presidential pick much more seriously than what is in the case historically. it is possible maybe 20, 30, 40 years from now voters might place a greater emphasis on vice presidents. to the point about home state advantages it really depends on , each campaign.

even though our research suggests this is grossly exaggerated in terms of running mate's ability to carry their home state and garner votes there, that perception nevertheless exists. there are candidates who have relied on or at least shown evidence or make statements that they were considering the possibility of a running mate due to their home state. bill clinton, in his memoir, cited former senator bob graham as a potential running mate that would potentially deliver florida on behalf of the democratic ticket. if he would have instead selected him over al gore. perhaps the most famous example is the 1960's election of lyndon johnson by john f. kennedy. even there, there is cautioned that should be exercised. thesed survey data from national election studies from 1960, and we did not find any solid evidence to support the claim of lyndon johnson delivered texas or even the

south in that year. johnson wasn't especially popular in the south. historically,se considering some of viewed him as a turncoat on civil rights particularly for his leadership , in the senate over the 1957 civil rights act. even though that perception might exist the empirical , reality does not always match that perception. host: jordan from connecticut is up next. jordan is calling on the independent line. go ahead. caller: hello. i was wondering if you could comment on the history of vice presidential selections. which of the most positive impact on the electoral outcome. al gore, walter mondale, lyndon johnson may have had a positive impact. alternatively, who had the most negative impact? sarah palin, dan quayle, bob dole, spiro agnew. i wonder if you have a sense

which one had the most impact positively and negatively? guest: that is a great question. it is a complicated answer. let's start with the negative first and then move into the positive. it is difficult to say that a running mate has cost a presidential ticket votes, but there has been some recent scholarship on this. for better or worse, sarah palin has been the subject of a wide variety of research studies. not just in political science but political communication, gender studies. there is a cottage industry examining her candidacy. it's really a mixed bag in terms of the empirical results. one study suggested sarah palin could have cost john mccain as much as 2.1 million votes among moderate and liberal voters. but there is another study that , was just published last year in american politics research by whitney court and michael lynch

which shows her candidacy energized the conservative and republican base. there were a number of voters who probably would not have voted but for sarah palin's selection by john mccain. it is sort of a double-edged sword in that regard. maybe she would've cost some votes among swing voters, but at the same time would have motivated more conservative and republican voters to turn out for john mccain. it is not exactly a clear-cut example of someone who helped or hurt the ticket. in our analysis we went back to 1884 trying to discern if there would've been a time where a vice presidential selection would have mattered. even in lyndon johnson's situation, even though we don't find any solid empirical evidence from the kennedy campaign in 1960 to support the claim he delivered texas and the

south. even if johnson failed to deliver texas, kennedy still would have won based on the electoral college vote. he could've even given a perhaps another small state in the south and still won the election over richard nixon that year. out of all the elections we have examined, we can only find one instance where a running mate could have possibly made difference. this is a bit of what if history. we need to make some assumptions here that the campaign would not but changed dramatically, it was the 2000 presidential election. if any state has switched from george w. bush to al gore's column, gore would've had a majority in the electoral college. this is highly probablistic. you have to think of this in terms of delivering home states. will a candidate be on a presidential vice presidential shortlist?

will they hail from a state that is not reliably republican or democrat? do they come from a swing state? are they selected and do they actually deliver enough votes to put that ticket up over the top? it is pretty unlikely, but one example we did find was 2000, where if al gore could have selected ben governor jeanne shaheen of new hampshire, our forecasting models is the gore campaign would have carried new hampshire by one point. that assumes the dynamic of the national election would not have changed, but given shaheen's political experience, given it was a fairly small and homogenous state, we believe it is likely they could've carried new hampshire. that was the only state in new england that the democratic ticket did not carry in 2000. that would have secured a majority of votes on behalf of al gore. host: edwin from hollywood, florida on the democratic line.

good morning to you. caller: good morning. i just wanted to state my opinion on donald trump. i think he is far too thin-skinned to be the presidential nominee for the republican party. i think he looks like a three-year-old throwing a temper tantrum sometimes. you see him online. host: mark from canton, ohio on the independent line. caller: ok. i would like to know -- i heard you say if you vote independent you might -- i do not want mr. trump to get in there. i was a republican until the bushes came along and that i

dropped that. i was thinking about this year. how he got in there was the hateful speech. i'm reading all this stuff about how he is a demagogue and narcissistic. all his hand movements and all that stuff. i think i would rather go for hillary. host: that is mark from ohio. kyle kopko from elizabethtown college, any thoughts? guest: back to my previous point of the candidates being unpopular this year, i think that's one of the reasons why so many folks have been paying veeption to this so-called stakes. they are looking for indications on how these presidential candidates might govern once they are in office. it's become an adage by now. the first presidential decision

that he candidate makes is, who the running mate will be. that is someone that could succeed them if something happens to them they will have , to rely on them as a policy advisor. whether that meets a difference this time around in shaping perceptions for the presidential candidates, we will have to wait and see. host: we talked about the low likelihood that a vice presidential candidate brings some sort of home state advantage. what about demographics? could certain picks help bolster support within different demographic groups? guest: this is something my co-author and i recently examined. we just had an article about this published in the washington post online blog, the monkey cage. it is there for viewers to read if they would like to. we dug into the data from the american national election studies going back to the 1970's to see how the demographic appeal to women voters for geraldine ferraro and sarah palin influenced their choice.

also catholic voters tim kaine , is catholic. there have been a number of vice presidential candidates who are catholic, including geraldine ferraro paul ryan, joe biden. , we also had a jewish running mate, joe lieberman in 2000. what we find is a similar pattern compared to our results regarding home state candidacies and home state advantages. in home states and within these demographic groups voters generally like these candidates more. they have more favorable opinions of them. women had more favorable opinions of geraldine ferraro. catholics had a more favorable view of joe biden for example. but that did not necessarily translate into votes. they were not so popular as to sway vote choice in the november election. our take away that we offered in this article is essentially due to the presidential candidates.

if we look at demographic appeal among presidential candidate and home state appeal among presidential candidates, it is a very different scenario. andome states, presidential -- candidates tend to get a boost, anywhere from three to seven point. catholic voters were much more likely to turn out for john f. kennedy in 1960. we also see that african-american voters were much more likely to turn out for president obama and the 2008 presidential campaign. our interpretation of the data is voters are more significantly influenced by presidential candidates. tim kaine obviously has some experience with working with latino constituents. he is also fluent in spanish. this is something my co-author and i are going to be examining in the future.

will this result in any sort of electoral advantage among this constituency of voters? might it helped that tim kaine could record a message in spanish over the radio are on tv to appeal to this demographic group? i am not sure that will have much of an effect. even george w. bush recorded some advertisements, all in spanish where he spoke spanish , to potential constituents. it did not seem to have two large of an effect in the early 2000. it is something we will have to wait and see. based upon the available data, it is probably unlikely a constituency group is going to be swayed to a significant extent by a vice presidential candidate. host: we had time for a few more calls in this segment. del from pennsylvania. good morning. caller: good morning. i think the two picks we have this year are just about offset each other.

the emphasis has to be on the presidential candidates. i watched c-span every morning. i have not heard anyone mention donald trump has to go to court. he called this judge a mexican. he has a pattern of corruption and racketeering that he has the answer to. he is being sued by 3000 people. he might be the one to get indicted and locked up. host: we will take our final caller for this segment, lawrence from california. also on the democratic line. a very good morning. caller: i have been voting since 1976. i was 18. i was going to vote for carter mondale was a good choice. , in 1980, i turned against carter.

i did not vote for him. voted for reagan. 1984, reagan. 1988, bush. i voted for obama twice. i vote for the top of the ticket. i really do not vote for the vice presidential choice. this year i am voting for the top of the ticket. so that is my feeling on the vice presidential choices. very rarely does it influence me on who i am voting for president. host: lawrence from california. kyle kopko, last words? guest: i think lawrence is certainly a great example of a lot of americans out there who are evaluating their vote choices this year. the emphasis will be placed on the presidential candidates this year. it's really the exception not the rule, that the presidential candidates will have a significant impact on the outcome of the race, either in their home states are on the national level.

will it matter this year? probably unlikely but there is still a lot of campaigning to go. host: the book is "the vp advantage." he is also associate professor of political science at elizabethtown college from harrisburg, pennsylvania. thank you so much for talking with us. guest: really appreciate it. >> washington journal is in philadelphia for the democratic national convention. sunday morning, philadelphia inquirer lyrical reporter john fitzgerald will preview the convention, which airs monday. former pennsylvania governor and dnc host committee chair edwin dell will discuss what went into staging the democratic national convention in pennsylvania. in philadelphia, daily news columnists talk about covering the preparations, the planned protest, and the bernie sanders movement. journal,or washington

live from philadelphia, beginning at 7:00 a.m. eastern, sunday morning. >> we will talk now to peter hart. he has worked for the washington journal since 1989. thank you so much for being here this morning. readingwant to start by what you wrote in the wall street journal. here's what you said, in the history of public opinion polling, no democrat has entered the election with weaker scores on personal popularity, trust, then hillary clinton. she has ended just another policy walk with no central message. why has this happened? let's bring some context

to it, obviously donald trump has more negatives than hillary clinton. they are two candidates that are very challenged at this stage of the game. of the times.ause it is a difficult time to be a candidate. looking at the stakes, they are looking at their feelings, they are trying to sort things out. hillary clinton has come from a very long background, and there marvelous things about them, but a lot of things that have been raised in terms of her character and trustworthiness. she runs into this convention with the challenge. at the same time she has a great opportunity. that is what we are going to be looking for in the next week. host: what does she need to do to overcome or turnaround this high level of displeasure? guest: the most important thing is it is not somehow creating a new hillary clinton.

it is rediscovering the old hillary clinton, the original hillary clinton. that was a person people said she works across the aisle and has the ability to get along with colleagues. a person with long friendships. the opposite of donald trump. a person who has the ability and knows people and understands them. what has happened in this campaign is the contentiousness has been difficult. we have ended up with a cardboard caricature of her. now with the selection of tim kaine she has a chance, and the same way her husband did in 1992, to reintroduce herself. i think that reintroduction has to be as much as anything broadening who she was and who she is. he goes back to the basics, who she is as a person. which is a person that cares, is involved. the second thing that is so important is the ability to show how she governs and how she leads.

all of that has been left out in the primaries. host: i believe according to some of your polling it shows her favorability ratings have fallen as the campaign has progressed. is it typical for a candidate as they undergo greater scrutiny? guest: it does happen, indeed. if you look and go back through, it happened to barack obama, and happened to bill clinton, it happened to john mccain it happened to mitt romney. it is the wear and tear of the campaign. what happens in the general election is the second look, and then people start to make judgments they go beyond just how i feel about this person today, to the question of, who can do the job, who can make a difference in terms of the country? host: our viewers can join in our conversation. they can call in. democrats, your number is (202) 748-8000.

republicans, your number is (202) 748-8001. independents, the line is (202) 748-8002. you can also send as a tweet. we're speaking with peter hart, veteran democratic pollster and founder of hart research associates. you were involved in a poll of young voters ahead of the political convention in philadelphia and cleveland as well. what did you find about what matters to them? are the candidates reaching out to them? guest: this was a fascinating poll. this was done for the horatio alger's association and in conjunction with the university. what it was, and we've been doing this since 2001, is following high school students each of the four years to understand how they look to the political world, how they are

feeling about their own lives, and where things are at. 2016, young people are so reflective of what is happening in the world in general. they are much more involved. they are much more -- they feel the election makes a greater difference. at the same time, they are not necessarily positively inclined towards each of the candidates. they like the democratic party. they don't like the republican party. overall what we find is there is a lot of pressure on young people. when we were doing this back in 2001 people really did not -- young people did not see the stakes in the same way. today you can feel the world is impinging on them. for them, this election is not something that is for other people. it is for them. in terms of caring about it, they are much more involved. we have got over 80%.

they think it's going to make a difference. compared to 2012, this is up by 25 points. it is a real difference and it is fairly important. host: the first caller is joseph from delaware. he's calling on the democratic line. go ahead. caller: smyrna, delaware. i have two points and one question. i looked on the wikileak. it says as registered democrats for these approval ratings. my question is if it's just registered democrats, is that a way to get the whole encompassed view of people if it's just registered democrats? that's like saying do you like my friend? if you ask all my friends. the other point is i think hillary is the difference between going to law school and lawyer school. law school you learn about the law. lawyer school you learn how to break the law and get away with it. that is my comment.

answer the first question, please. guest: the survey we have done for nbc and the wall street journal is obviously a cross-section of america. when you see registered voters, registered voters among everybody, we may have shown just democrats in this one graph but overall it's all americans. it is almost 55% on the negative side for donald trump. it has been at 60% or higher for a long period of time. you would be absolutely correct if we were only interviewing democrats, which we do not do. i should mention with a high school students we had two different groups. one were high school students we interviewed 1000 of them, they were between ninth and 12th grades. we also did an additional survey with postgraduates, people who graduated from high school

between 18 and 23 years old. we talked to them. there we did not ask which party they belong to. we were only interested in getting their views unless -- views on much broader questions, as well as understanding of the political world. host: we are talking with peter hart, a democratic pollster and has worked with the wall street journal and nbc news. can you help our viewers and listeners understand little bit about how polls are conducted. likely voters versus registered voters, sampling sites. how should we be interpreting some of this? guest: what it comes down to is a sample is designed, and we do ours by telephone, and it is done with random digit dialing. which is a way of saying every interview and every voter has an equal chance with every other voter to be included area over 40% of all of our interviews are

done with people who only have cell phones. i'm sure you and a lot of people in the younger millennial generation only can be reached by cell phones. we don't want to miss that group. every person has an equal chance of being in this sample. second thing about it. it depends on the number of interviews. we generally do 1000 interviews. the margin of error is about plus or minus 3.3%. the key in all of this is obviously to be able to get participation. it is easier to get participation when you are saying it's the nbc news and the wall street journal. people think it must be lester holt and chuck todd on the phone interested in my point of view. what it really comes down to is again having questions that are balanced and that are fair. we produce every question so you can see the wording.

knowing where they are placed in a questionnaire because that can make a difference. most important is how you do sampling, it is like a blood test. if you don't do it properly, you will come up with the wrong diagnosis. host: jim from oklahoma is on the republican line. good morning. caller: yes, hello? host: you are on the air. caller: i want to make a statement about the whole -- about the poll system, it's about as left-leaning as the media. you can rig the polls to get the results you want and that is what has been happening lately. hillary clinton barely beat the socialist in a small election and she did it with mostly , foreign donations. the clinton foundation is corrupt as can be. she is going to prison, not the white house, along with obama for many charges of treason and other charges. host: all right, jim from oklahoma.

let's take another caller, and then we will hear from our guest. jesse is from the democratic line. caller: good morning. host: good morning. turn down your tv. caller: i was watching the news yesterday, and lester holt came on. they were saying donald trump has to go to court. i'm trying to figure out something about it. if you hear anything more about it -- host: we hear your question. peter hart, any thoughts? guest: i don't know anything about donald trump's legal problems. let me deal with the first question in terms of left-leaning polls, i would tell you you have to look at where it comes from and what the sources are.

if you look at most of the major polls, and the work being done by pew research, it is pretty equal and pretty well covered. in our polls we have shown throughout the year, the races been pretty close between hillary clinton and donald trump. we have shown the strengths and weaknesses of each, and i think the importance of the poll is the ability to understand what the dynamic of the voters are. that is really where it counts. it is what is behind it. when you look at this election, there are uncertainties. but at the same time, they want to have some sense of where we are going. i think the ability to understand the issues, the perceptions of the candidates and what they are looking for is how we look at the polls. host: michelle is calling on the independent line. good morning, michelle. caller: yes.

mr. hart, i am from atlanta. i am an african-american voter. i am michelle from atlanta, georgia. i will be voting. i am a black american. to me, the economy does not matter. nothing matters to me except race. i tell you, if you look at took a poll in cleveland, ohio, hillary clinton got 88% of the african-american votes. donald trump, among democrats, got 0%. donald trump is the worst of the worst among african-american voters. he is at a 90% unfavorable. he will not get our votes because he is a racist and a bigot. host: all right, michelle. guest: the point you make on the polling is that you are exactly right. donald trump's support with

african-americans and latinos is down in the low teens and single digits. when it comes down to is that throughout this campaign, i do not think he has been able to reach across and talk to them in a way that has provided any sort of confidence. if you look throughout the last 25 years, the democrats have done exceptionally well with the african-american vote. obviously, barack obama has been well over 95%. even as he reaches the twilight of his presidency, his approval rating in the black community continues to be exceptionally high. in terms of the vote this fall, hillary clinton has a positive rating among african-americans. that has held up in spite of the difficult campaign against bernie sanders.

as you look at this, the contrast is stark. the democrats have always counted on the african-american vote. the real question will be turnout. they turned out in extraordinary numbers for barack obama in 2008 and in 2012. the question is will hillary clinton and the democrats be able to create this sense of urgency and willingness to turn out. host: here is a tweet from your firm. americans believe race relations in the u.s. are bad. this is the highest number since the oj verdict. how is that shaping this campaign? guest: let me go back to the horatio alger poll, which i think is important. this is the first election where i feel that young people are almost acting as adults. when we used to interview them, what graderns were they would get, how they would

get into college what will , happen? and the social pressure. now the world pressures are all on them. you can feel it in this survey. when we ask them the most important issue, number one is the economy and right up there was terrorism. do think the kids in the ninth and 10th grades is saying terrorism is important, that gives you a sense of how things are. when you ask the question about race, that came up in the higher category along with education. education you would expect for students. race is clearly something, particularly with minorities, which is of particular concern. we have gone through an exceptionally difficult period and i thinkd the president has done a remarkable job guiding the ship through this. nonetheless, this is a country that is very much on edge. the question is who will provide

the calming influence in balance. i think young people, and i think voters as a whole, and race relations as we noted, that is a long way back to the o.j. simpson trial. the o.j. simpson trial was one incident, one period of time. here, we have had shock after shock. talking about what we have been going through. it is not over. it is a terribly tough. eriod.- tough p i applaud young people saying that they care and it host: next makes a difference who wins. host: next caller comes from grand forks, north dakota. go ahead susie with your question. caller: good morning. i am a low income white woman. i am so glad about hillary and so glad she picked tim kaine. i am very positive i think this

, country is the greatest in the world. i have a very, very positive attitude. thank you. host: that is suzy. next will be lance on the republican line. caller: good morning. host: good morning, lance. caller: i would like to make a comment. i believe that the american people have become docile to the whole political system. hillary clinton has been involved with 14 scandals since the 1990's. you can look at benghazi, syria, the iran deal, libya, iraq, e-mail scandals, and as for her vice president pick, i believe she could select gandhi and not get elected. i don't understand why people don't see this. i know they are threatened by trump.

the way he talks and stuff, but he talks to people on their level. i believe hillary thinks that she is better than normal people , i just wanted to make that comment. host: all right, lance. guest: the kind of questions we hear and comments are not unusual. when you listen to lance in ohio, you get the sense -- that sense of division and schism. to me, it is not surprising that we pick it up in the polls and focus groups that i do when i talk with people. i think the last comment where the perception is that she may think of herself as better than people goes back to my original point. how do you provide that kind of understanding of the total person rather than just being seen through one small spectrum?

when it comes to the vice presidential, and to suzy's point in north dakota was particularly important, and i think tim kaine is an excellent selection. not only because he checks boxes and those are the things people talk about, but he has foreign policy and executive experience. he speaks spanish. those things. i think you see somebody who is exceptionally balanced. this is not somebody who rushes to one end of the spectrum or another. this is a person that looks at issues in a broad way. i think it reflects exceptionally well on hillary clinton. i would say the same thing that while mike pence comes from a different ideological background, you could say that certainly both his experience acquit himkground

well to be a vice president of the united states. host: you said that for hillary clinton to connect more with voters she has to move away from four point powerpoint plants. she needs to do more personal interaction. what does donald trump need to do to overcome his high unfavorable ratings? guest: donald trump has a problem. the central problem is he is a chaos candidate. he does not provide what i call the stability. people are looking for change. this is not a continuity election, i am sorry to say. i know people want to say it has got to be continuity. it is not, it is a change election. but, they are not going to choose chaos. what they see in donald trump is a sense that there is always a zigzag and there is no sense of here is where i am, this is where i am going, this is what it is about. when i ask people in focus

groups, tell me who donald trump is if he were a fifth grader on a playground and you are looking from up above. the person they describe, essentially, is a person who would be selling things, who would be pushing down the little kid, who would be at the top of the jungle gyms. if you say what difference does it make, if you give people a different metaphor in which to look, all of a sudden they can provide very important insights into what they're thinking. let's suppose he is a fictional character, could be a superhero or anything. who is he? they said he is the tasmanian devil. they said he is the hulk. my favorite of all is they said he is dennis the menace. when you think of that curly hair of dennis the menace, you

think even that has been recreated. the challenge for donald trump is somehow to provide a sense of steadiness and balance. i don't think the convention helped him in that way. he had the opportunity with a full audience and america waiting to make a judgment. what he played was to the negative side. he missed, as some journalists have pointed out, when i call the nixon side of it, which is, had i talk to people and relate to their hopes and their fears? the whole canvas was painted in black for donald trump. if there is only black and a little red tie, it will not sell. host: next up is pamela from madison heights, michigan. good morning, pamela. caller: good morning.

i am extremely, just liked your comment about donald trump. i do believe also that you are right. he is one that, i think, our children and grandchildren would look at as a little kid only because someone says something to him and he comes back at them so hard. it is a little disgusting. the previous caller had said about hillary going to prison. as far as i look at things, bush and cheney with their lies about iraq and how we got into that war, i would definitely say, you know, they are just criminals as well. host: that is pamela from madison heights, michigan. let's hear from staten island, new york. jill is on the republican line.

caller: this is joe. i think hillary will lose because she is stuck at 45%. trump had 55% in the polls, but he got over 60% in the real vote on election day. other states like that, libertarians will come to their senses and vote for donald trump. thank you. host: what are the limitations of polling? you heard the color mention lower support in the polls but higher support in actual voting numbers, we saw that in brexit as well, we were surprised by the outcome. to,t: what it comes down polls do not predict, they only reflect where people are at. it is difficult because there is no necessary balance or baseline. when you get to a general election, you know people are

democrats, independents, republicans. we spent a lot of time trying to understand who are likely voters versus maybe voters. at this stage in the game, it looks like there are a lot of likely voters. the question is, will republicans feel compelled based on their feelings about donald trump to go to the polls? that we do not know at this stage. the point is absolutely right, donald trump outperforms what the early polls say. not our polls because we use national surveys, but when you look at staples. national service. when you look at the staples, it will be a huge problem in the

fall to understand that. the other side, in terms of brexit, i think that was an issue election in great britain where they have had some difficulties of their own. when it comes down to is that in a general election for president in the united states, you usually have a good sense of who will turn out. at this stage, it is a question of will minorities for the democrats and millennials turnout. for the republicans, they need what they call the silent majority. is that group along the rust belt states going to turn out in large numbers as suggested in terms of the primary? we do not know enough yet. we will see more after the primary. i would like to go back to the first caller's question, that is what do the democrats need to do with the convention ahead. i think it is an opportunity or the democrats to show what i think is a different face. the idea of lock her up was so over-the-top, i think, for the american public that even donald trump said, let's defeat her. i think there is a huge difference. i think the question of civility. for the democrats, the ability

to present not only a positive side but also to understand that it is not just poking everything at donald trump and playing to a simple base. it is laying out something. the thing that is available to the democrats and was available to donald trump is the economy. the voters, in a head-to-head, think that donald trump is stronger on the economy than hillary clinton. i was surprised that donald trump did nothing on the economy during this time. it is a waste of opportunity. i think there is a marvelous record hillary clinton has to present. we found out that almost half of all americans think barack obama has improved the economy. only 11% say, i think, he made it worse. the years from bill clinton are years where even people who are conservative say these are good economic times.

that ability to build on that and talk about where we transition to in the economy and where we need to get to will be important for the democrats to get to. i'm surprised donald trump did not pick it up in his convention. host: next caller is philip from fairfax, virginia on the independent line. caller: i have been very concerned about the proliferation of voter suppression laws over the last few years. how are you accommodating that, or is it possible to do that in your polling? guest: that is a great question. the question of the laws changing voter registration and when one can register are very difficult to deal with. what we care about is the ability to measure those people who are able to vote, and we asked the first question, are you registered to vote?

obviously, the laws that have been happening over a short amount of time have been a little bit on the harsh side in my estimation. we are not trying to stimulate democracy, but trying to suppress democracy. i think that is a huge question for america. obviously, you want an honest and fair vote. you do not want people who should not be voting to be allowed at the polls. at the end of the day you want a vibrant democracy. in terms of our polling what we , are trying to do as much as anything is to add to the dialogue. it is not just understanding who is hot, who is not, but to take it much further along and understand where people want to see a democracy go. that is what we want at the ballot box, also. host: the next caller is laura on the democratic line. good morning.

caller: good morning. i am a great fan mr. hart. i so appreciate your thoughtful approach. to process questions, the first is gary johnson and bill well. if you are incorporating them into your questions as far as a straight presidential pick. are you for donald trump or clinton if the election was today, or gary johnson? gets to whatestion you were just speaking about civility and respect. , how do you frame a question that gets an answer to whether people are more interested in a civil approach, or because i'm a democrat, a bombastic approach?

thank you. guest: i thank you very much for your calling and kind compliment. what it really comes down to is, yes, of course, we are looking at multiple candidates. well we present one set of numbers that show hillary clinton ahead at 46% to 41%. that is prior to the republican convention. i don't want to say it reflects the convention. we also included one that includes the libertarian as well as the green party. we included gary johnson and included jill stein. host: jill stein. guest: thank you. what we found it is important to understand. 16% of americans were either voting for gary johnson, 10% or

just 6% for jill stein. that is a tremendous number of people when you recognize that ross perot got 19% in what we considered a three-way race. in this instance what it tells , us about the voters is they are reluctant to enter into either the donald trump camp or the hillary clinton camp. given that, what it means is the voters have to be won over. do i think this will end up to be one of the largest independent third-party votes? maybe. i think it is more likely to condense. as people get down to october, they will look and say, this is what i am stuck with. this is what my choice is going to be. unless gary johnson is able to get into the debate and make a difference with a policy, with a procedure, i think it becomes difficult. my guess is we are measuring more of the high water mark right now.

i should also point out that at this point in the game, in our most recent poll, he did not show much of a difference in terms of cutting off of one candidate versus the other. there was still about a five point lead for hillary clinton. host: tim from charlotte, north carolina, is on the republican line. caller: yes. i would like to ask a few questions and make a few comments. first, i do not want to be rude, but i do not think the american public is not very educated about the clintons, going back to whitewater, ron brown, vince foster, i could go on and on with a laundry list of things about the clintons. also, that hillary clinton made a trade on wall street and made more money in one trade than anybody ever did in the history of wall street, probably for 20 years or 25 years. i think the american public is very, very ignorant.

i think a lot of black americans both democrat because they see the republican party as racist and all this other stuff. here is my question to you, you are talking about, and these people talk about bush and cheney, do you think bill clinton committed perjury in his deposition after the monica linsky scandal? anybody who knows the law knows that 80% or 90% of the american public would have gone to jail. he lied in a sworn deposition. he sat there and lied. host: we hear your point. any comments? guest: no. the only thing i would tell you is that in terms of the american public, if you do this for a lifetime, i have done it for over 50 years, you really get a sense of that americans may not know every detail. they may not know where munich is exactly, or may not understand everything in the middle east. they have very good and basic

fundamental judgment and knowledge. we often say that they do not know enough about this or that. if you look over the course of things, they can give you a good barometer in terms of attitudes. they will tell you what they think makes sense and when it does not. they can talk about trade even if they do not know all of the details. to me, i am a defender of the american public because that is how i have made my living. [laughter] guest: i have found them to be exceptionally frank, and people who have basically good values. so you get your caller from north carolina, one point of view, and your caller from rhode island with a different point of view. i listen to them all. i care about them. host: in a recent poll in the

wall street journal, the finding was that nearly three quarters of voters think the u.s. is on the wrong track. if the country is looking for this sense of optimism, why do so many people feel that we are in dark days? guest: simply put, we have been asking this question about right direction, wrong track, over a 30 year time frame. we went from 2001 through 2016 where, with the exception of small blips, a majority of numbers which range up to 70% say the country is heading in the wrong direction. it has been hard for this country. everything has been cut out under it. the sense of security from 9/11, the sense of everything we go through in terms of individual

terrorist acts, all those things are there. if you listen to the american public, the struggles that they are going through to recover from 2008 when, essentially, a lot of the economic security was cut out, and people lost their housing. it is like their house being burned down to try to rebuild , that has been a tremendous effort. there is the whole area of inequality that people care about. there are so many things that are happening on so many fronts that, as the public looks at it, there is a sense that we have not found our balance. we do not really have things working in our direction. at the same time, if you look and say, considering where we started with president obama in

2009, and where we are today, are we moving more in the direction that we need to? i think the american public would say yes. we have recovered from the worst of the economic problems. we are out of afghanistan. we are out of iraq. there are still problems in the middle east. on many of the issues of the day, we have things that are going in the right direction. you look at this, and i think right direction, wrong track, has been a stable mark for us. 't necessarily captures the full panoply of what is going on. host: our next caller is from crofton, maryland on the defendant line. caller: good morning mr. hart. i was going to ask you about how you feel the wilder effect might apply to mr. trump. i also wanted to comment that when you try to paint mr. trump as a chaos candidate, i would submit that he is also an

iconoclastic leader candidate. his views on trade, immigration, nato have really turned the and in many cases, both republicans and democrats are now agreeing with them where before him they were on opposite sides. guest: that is an exceptionally thoughtful and smart question. what has made donald trump unique in the selection process is, essentially, he is all part of the 360 degrees circle. theay show up any place on ideological spectrum. from that point of view, he infuriates some of the conservatives and he drills other people. -- thrills other people. that makes him a difficult target. at the same time, i go back to the other problem and more important problem, and that is the sense that the voters feel

in terms of his personality. and his knowledge about the facts. fine for him to blow up at ted cruz, but it is not i'm for him to blow up at angela merkel or somebody else. what you need is a clumsy. it is that element -- what you need is diplomacy. host: we have time for just a few more calls. we have our republican line in michigan. good morning. caller: hello. host: you are on the air. timer: i was listening to kaine the other night and mentioned the jesuits three or four times. i don't think he understands the history of the jesuits and what they did to non-catholics. another thing is henry.

-- hillary. whitewater, and ghazi, monica linsky. nothing sticks. byshe once said about a song tammy wynette, stand by your man. she said i am not a stand by your man woman. see, she did because she is nuts about power and money, whereas donald trump, he has the power and he has the money. he is not in it for that. inc. you. -- thank you. hear: a point of view i once in a while. donald trump appeared to have run his primary campaign only with his own or independent -- without an independent set of funds. there is always that contrast between the clinton campaign,

which has relied more on tax, etc.. day, what of the voters will come down to is the individuals and who makes sense for 2017. host: we have one more caller calling on the democratic line. good morning. knowr: i would like to where the gentleman gets his pollsters from. hillary clinton said she was going to close down the coal mines, get the coal companies out of business. almost all of that cold goes to europe or some other country. west virginia is one of the poorest to states in this country. is she going to reach coal miners? what is she going to retrain them for.

to be workers in walmart or mcdonald's, or someplace like that? my colleague has come from west virginia and has put a ton of effort into the revitalization of west virginia. hillary clinton j.k. rowling 'srks -- hillary clinton remarks may have been misinterpreted. figuregoing to have to out another avenue. we can go back to the past. peter hart the democratic national convention from philadelphia

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about candidates making public education free. i am also about creating the axis people have two good education. i go to college and that is the best thing for me. about thecerned security and safety throughout this country. isn't allowing us to travel in freedom anymore. >> it is great to be in cleveland. this is an exiling time. i think donald trump is going to be a wonderful president. those are the ones that impact our future for -- not just

decade -- for not just this decade but decades to come. >> the most important issue regarding this upcoming election year would probably be creating a pro-life america. something that is important is having a president that understands the generation i'm in. do everything we can to keep that right in this country. what -- for me what is the most important thing of our future -- for me what is most important is our future. america is exceptional and we have to get our economy in order notor -- so we are free only here but across the world. >> next the foreign minister of the czech republic talks about the impact of the u.k.'s decision to leave the european union. the eu'sics include relationships with turkey and

russia, and how the poor exit -- how the brexit debate is being discussed here in the u.s.. this is an hour and 10 minutes. >> you are welcome to come up here into the front. feel free to come up here. good morning, everyone. president of the german marshall fund of the united states. welcome you toto this next edition of transatlantic talk. today we are privileged to czech foreign minister zaoralek. he has had a distinguished public service career prior to that, including in the chamber of deputies of the czech parliament. all of you do have his full biography. are onnsatlantic talks

the record and we encourage you to tweet. gmfttalk.ag is in the wake of the referendum on eu membership and so many other things that have happened since nice whether the attack in , the failed coup in turkey. it has been hot to not only in terms of the weather. forink we see the turnout today and friday and july. there is a great deal of interest in these topics here in washington. i wanted to start by drawing you out on how significant an impact you think the decision by , the eu's second-largest

economy, one of the most capable foreign security policy actors for the future of the european project. >> good morning. how many people came. i have a chance to maybe explain something. this decision to leave was a fundamental decision. it sent shockwaves all around here. maybe i can assure you that many politicians now in europe, it is the general feeling we have to calm down from the situation. also maybe they have to give some time to the u.k. to .laborate some position

on our side maybe it is impossible to start the thinking. what will may be information, could be sent at the end of next year. for us in the european union, i -- the first task is to plan some lessons from this. i'm convinced what happened in the u.k. is not about something of thisendid isolation fascinating island, but something more. i'm afraid a very similar feeling we have in our countries in central east europe and maybe

what is most serious we are something likey [indiscernible] i am sorry it is to national governments and establishments .n our countries maybe they can speak about crisis. this decision to leave the european union is really serious political crisis. to punisho sense britain. in so many similar tendencies to in many similar events.

generally i am deeply convinced decision is a disaster. disaster for the u.k. and the european union. how tohave to find a way handle. we have to look for ways how to create good partnerships. you can imagine it would be very difficult. on one side the u.k. will ask for access to european single markets. impossible to access the u.k. and not keep these fundamental freedoms. it was the reason we entered the european union in 2004. somebody could have some exemption. they do have some privileges in our u.k. union.

excluded from these privileges. we also have to keep this interest. on the other side, we have decided to be correct. you can imagine how it is important to incorporate security matters. everybody knows u.k. is a against-- in the fight terrorism and the general european security architecture. that is why it is absolutely clear we need britain. but it could be tough. we have to find a way how to solve it. maybe to understand what has happened.

yesterday i had the opportunity speech on thehis convention in cleveland. saw the slogan make america great again. but part of the discussion and , it was something like andng u.k. great again something like request to return , andritain to back returning to the former glory. me wes why it seems to are facing something that is more general. it is very interesting, this are -- of feeling they and wants to be more in center.

u.k. wants to be more in the center. general feelings that life is elsewhere. find a way to return to the center of the life. in europe and britain, i'm afraid it is also here in the u.s.. i am looking at the u.s. from the czech republic. i am convinced you are able to overcome economic and financial -- very low unemployment in the u.s.. i admire your president barack obama. maybe i see a fascinating opportunity to compare. i visited the u.s..

--ave opportunity to list and i remember very well this fear. -- this atmosphere. i had an opportunity to listen to your current president barack obama. at howbsolutely shocked absolutely changed -- your president was applauded and i asked the iranian minister, what is your impression? he told me, yes. maybe i would like to correct something. but generally it was very decent.

absolutely changed the picture and image before this country. no feeling of appreciation, this journey that was made in this administration. i know there are many things which can be discussed. from many friends i heard there is a bad mood here in the u.s.. a very bad atmosphere. i listened to mr. trump. he was to change everything. maybe we will start to create jobs. my first and most important

feeling, that i am afraid of this apocalyptic -- and this conviction that we have to change everything. i am deeply convinced it may be one of the fundamental experiences of my life to say we have to change everything. we are living in a very intricate world. if you want to change everything and the whole system and regime, it would be impossible to concentrate on concrete details. it is something the president is offering us. it's our chance. it's a big potential.

i'm afraid it is something like wasting time. maybe something that could destroy the whole system. this conservativism is maybe a result of my concrete experience. in the czech republic there are some experiences with the revolutions. revolution in the soviet union in 1917. it is for people and grievances and bitterness. believe in i evolutionary changes. maybe because i am a social democrat of these -- of the

evolutionist party. careful on very these big profits of the change and fundamental change of every. i am convinced the u.s. is in good shape and there are many things which should be changed. i can imagine -- i believe it is much better to change the fundamental revolutionary change. the same thing in europe. we are in a very intricate situation. now turkey on the south.

they represent a very complicated situation. maybe during this difficult auntie 16. i'm convinced we will be up to create good sources. they have to find a way out of this crisis. and a way how to compose how to create new relations between the u.k. and european union. we have to be up to solve all these problems. we have no alternative than to step-by-step solve all these program -- all these problems. it started to be one of the very important very serious issues. i'm sorry at it too deep into brexit.

>> that was a impressive tour de force of the many challenges that are on the agenda. i would love to follow up on several of them. made the comment that the referendum and the outcome of that referendum, you said it is about us. and you do see this lack of trust, this broader euro skepticism. and you talk about these forces that are polling euro -- pulling europe apart. there has been a lot discussion about whether the decision come up written's decision to leave the eu could be a model for other member states. the czech republic is one that often comes up in that discussion. could you speak specifically to the check case?

>> i'm convinced it is absolute nonsense. but no. republic, to speak about it is really nonsense. republic is the country, industry is our backbone. great exchanges our livelihood. maybe to decrease for maybe 40%. i can't imagine if they will be up at the keep a rational debate to access something similar. especially a country like the czech republic, a small country.

communicating and cooperating with others. i'm very glad that our mutual trade in the czech republic and u.s. are growing quickly. 13%? i'm very glad because your market is very sophisticated, very demanding. glad cooperation is developing in such a success away. the future is in cooperation. there are some people that are really scared of the czech republic. they see all the atrocities every week.

also the czech republic saying they have to bill on our borders and to maybe protect them before the they will come. all of this is nonsense. is not easy in central european countries to explain this. during the yugoslavia crisis, czech republic was able to receive 30,000 refugees from yugoslavia. nobody has no problem with it. maybe it is why situations change so much. because of this concrete experience and what people are seeing in the television screen.

especially this made a great impact in germany. that is why people are so scared. in this airplane i spoke with university teacher. we are not willing to live in so nervous and so dangerous and atmosphere. short time i spoke with my wife, who came from paris. paris isme i am afraid to unsafe a place.

like psychosis, really. it's very dangerous. in the current world the impact is so serious and so damaging. people are also concerned and also unsatisfied with a government. in france there is this take debate. maybe if -- big in satisfaction -- and feeling the government is unable to protect us. atmosphereg and this could probably change our political stages.

a bit of repetition of the presidential elections. -- very close to ideals. and the same in slovak, in our brotherhood, slovak country, in after last election, we have fascist party in parliament. minority, 7%, 9% only, but first fascist party came to parliament. impact, result of the uncertainty and it is something seems to be most dangerous in similar atmosphere, we as politicians have one alliancesl, to create and to be able to keep democracy a pillar and maybe you can not onlye that it's

our times we're speaking about republic wezech have in our memory situation 1930 years, we had very similar experience, we lost connection with all our neighbors. czechoslovakia and turkey were not able to communicate with hungary. and we stayed absolutely our president, bennish, was not able to and to create alliance in europe and experience, also now, that's why now in czechng together,blic to keep trying to communicate, my hungary andpoland,

slovakia, and trying to deliberate a positive agenda and create some government not fall apart. we are striving to keep the group together, if not in striving to isolate but also at time to create bridges between the central eastern european countries and the west. i can't access any dividing lines between east and the west south and the north. now it seems important to be democrats allll around, very good communication with germany, german democrats. we have strategy not only with germany but also with all these tools we are trying to use to create something like alliance of which will hamper and

stop any attempt to disrupt and change the democratic orientation of this country. i hope that we'll be strong enough. karen: you put this issue of refugees squarely on the table also noted your desire to unify europe. that that issue of refugees has been the most divisive issue europe has dealt date.o you mentioned that you'll have the austriann presidential election, on the same day hungary will have a the e.u.'sabout onto -- quota system refugees and we're pretty sure how that referendum will come out. that issue of refugees is still a deeply divisive one in europe. things that has tamped down that issue has been the e.u.'s deal with turkey. mentioned early the failed coup. abouts now some concern

whether that e.u.-turkey deal will hold. thed you speak to both resonance of the refugee issue in terms of an east-west e.u., andithin the also reflect on those concerns the staying powers of the e.u.-turkey deal? fewzaoralek: it is a questions, but i'll try. try -- you're absolutely true that this issueion on the refugee the heart of these programs. i would like to commemorate also take brexit, or referendum in u.k., its probably main topic washe issue butmigration the movement of people because persons are speaking about migration but it's a little bit false because in

they areou know speaking about the face of from central european poland.s, mainly the big problem was one million poles in the u.k. sentiment of the problem is similar when speaking about refugees from the south. is program is that there some feeling there has to be fundamental prerogative of the state to decide who can come to your territory, who can cross will accept you them. it was maybe probably one of the was -- maybe this topic decided or the result of andrendum in the u.k. fundamentally the same also in where we aree, solving, it is the feeling that people are convinced we can't accept any automatic ofhanism or this system

migratory quotas to decide every year what number of people we have to receive in our countries. differencesare between individual in countries. for example, in czech republic trying to create some bridge in this program and that arere offering that we ready, on voluntary basis, to receive refugees, for example, they accepted 3,000 refugees but are stressing all the time that we have to make it on voluntary base. on opposite, they are not able to manage in czech parliament in czech parliament, there are 100 persons rejecting this mandatory quotas, and any or mechanism, --hnocratic and memorabilia mechanism to decide every year which number to accept. tot's why we are trying

create this compromise and accept that we have to show this countrylso in today, we are ready to receive a yearhousand refugees per but it has to be under our -- it has to be decision of czech it's true that this position is not so much all partners in the group and what seems to be able to create this compromises on both sides, maybe toomething -- create this positive agenda and anye able to -- because country is willing to produce help in some to way and we have to create some common frame that will be generally accepted. turkey.asked on part ofs very important this balkan solution and this deal which was made between e.u.

turkey was precondition for fundamental change in this goal of people through balkan. now this was practically stopped true that thebly deal with turkey was a fundament and now it'svement prognose future development because i'm afraid it seems to me that the turkish army is beacon because probably this chief of the second army was arrested and the second which isis army east-southn south, syria, the border of very important part of the fight against islamic state and also this borderalso

protection agency. that's why it's very hard to could influence work of thisnd military and how turkey will be -- nothing changed butatically in these days maybe this cooperation between connected with everyday cooperation and now i know that this cooperation is on and very hard -- prognose future development in turkey. generally, i am convinced that turkey is very fragile. that this repercussion, the breakdown not also onmilitary but universities, maybe there are 50,000, 60,000 people which

which are on the screen being investigated. i'm afraid it could be something influenced fundamentally turkish society it could be fire. not sure in the end it will .e strong speculation this attack on some segment of backfireould really and that'sresponse very unable tom prognose future development and reason -- buthe also this serious situation for me is concrete incentive that we to work harder, also in europe, also in security matters.

protectto be able to our borders and to make transparency and not to accept illegal immigration. only automatic to manage beo middle turkey, will problematic. we have no other option and today maybe my prime minister made some proclamation that we have to think about the european army, european army. i hope that we will have no feeling there's something against nato. it's absolutely clear now that more active in europe. we have to be able to manage our own, not to wait for somebody to help us. reacted on the donald trump declaration that article 5 could be fulfilled only under the countrytion that the will be able through obligations

one side for me it's something very unpleasant, yes, to make some additional requests, maybe to article 5. on the other hand, maybe i am becauseuch surprised it's true that we europeans have more thingso make together, also in security matters, it was only a matter of time when somebody like donald trump would start to speak about it. in czechy also republic we are increasing our in defense and security othere there is no option. we can't ask u.s. to protect us for the future. i understand this. i would likehand, to say something opposite. i'm convinced that it's very important to be together, u.s. union, because itse i'm unconvinced that

damages not only for us in europe. i'm deeply convinced that it's also for the u.s. to be together with us. to recall september 11, when we were ready and able to help you and to start something together. i'm convinced it was very also for u.s. to have partners, to have friends in similar situations. that's why i'm convinced that something like mutual cooperation and mutual is something happened and i'm convinced for the role of u.s. in the world is very to have partner and to have friend. we know that we have to speed that we have to increase our spending, our money to defense. on the other hand, i'm convinced that it would be absolute

to go on our own only. we have to be more equipped. we have to be more strong in but at the same time we maybe more than before. i'm convinced also in this facing sothat we are many challenges all around, i that john kerry in monday in brussels said that for example -- now this situation is much more important than was maybe a few months, year ago. i don't know if we are able to manage this negotiation to the end of the year under the but foradministration me it is very interesting idea this kind ofalso anderation more than ever it's my -- that's why on one

bit concernedtle to listen what donald trump said. not soother, i'm surprised because i know we in europe have to be more strong. about softe spoke power, yes. but now it seems to me too speak about to strengthen resilience. it seems to me we need more also in europe, we need more strategic thinking. we have to be able to shape our security environment more. there are powers that are attacking us. ofs not in us to be onus power. it's not in us to be only resilient. it seems to me they have to change, our global european more anda little bit then also could be also better u.s. for the future. karen: terrific. -- to open to all of you. issues on thes of

table. fragility and the role of the u.s. mics are coming. much.nk you very my question -- karen: introduce yourself. my name is martin herman, from czech republic. karen: hold it closer to your mouth. >> yes. from czech republic, a long time in america. my question is, i don't want to more difficult but what happens if let's say on the problems that already exist, you suddenly are crisis?th a banking mr. zaoralek: you're absolutely right. it's also one of the most

serious problems which we have maybe we need strong, steps and i'm convinced we are speaking about economic are not inthey current state, we are not willing to develop right solution. we have some countries that are very indebted. problem.t solving this developinced we have to something new. for example, czech republic is the euro zone. on the other, i have doubts. i would like to tell you why, because i remember this press was made, i don't know, maybe a few months ago.

jean-claude was asked why u.s. you are notmission, are so -- act and you to france, to france state responseficits and the var, becausede yung it's france. for me, it's absolutely what ist thing because the result of the failing of zone? it's unwillingness to act to the rule. it is on the background why economic and financial crisis serious, soe so serious impact, not able to find a way out of the crisis. in u.s., much more smart. in europe we have many problems

to keepof the inability rules and i would like to see some change in this. if it was in this time, germany likerance had something special -- for me it was something natural. rules.dy has to keep run thisossible to entertainment and this maybe -- when now i saw jean-claude saying, because it's france. does it mean? that in future if czech republic group, they of this will incur all this debt, all indebted countries because nobody will accept the rules. an impact, the unwillingness to keep rules, there maymental that be some tasks on the side of czech republic that we have to do but we are maybe in good shape but something has to be done also on the side of euro go maybe we also have to

much more in deep because to solve the problems of this countries on the south, maybe bring new projects, maybe you know economic, he is speaking that likewe need is something breathing euro. breathing euro means that some leave euro for some time maybe to use own currency, rejuvenate economy, and then to return. i don't know if it's the right project. try to show you that something can be done to solve this problem of debt of some italy, spain, and others. would createe it new how to make this project intainable and it means also this we need something like creative thinking because we need creative thinking in policy but we need also creative thinking in the field and maybe and finance

afraid it needs fundamental decisions, what they will do in the future. rollpposite is only to this debt before we are not able to solve it. this is very big problem. i apologize, it's maybe one -- lecture only of this. >> you've talked a lot about trump. about putin? and one of the things that makes me raise the question about is ann applebaum whom you well, mrs. sogorski, column todayod showing the extent that trump is reducing trustte in the united states, reducing trust in the atlantic alliance, that even trump's operatives at the platform committee took out specifically reference to

ukraine. where do you -- and the fact that putin, of all the leaders declared thathas the e.u. is a strategic threat to russia. playing aou see him role in this current turmoil west anding on in the in the e.u.? mr. zaoralek: what could be the role? even without him being elected, the interview he did yesterday, created all kinds of turmoil. mr. zaoralek: yes, makes turmoil. yes, you're right. it's very interesting for me to follow this u.s. political scene and i am carefully butery i can tell you i am not knowledgeable person because -- because i am maybe -- it's for me to prognose what all that mean here in the u.s. you onelike to tell thing. i remember some television

performance before -- before bushion between george younger and al gore, it was shortlyon performance, before election. and i remember what george bush said in this broadcasting. al gore said that u.s. has to keep responsibility for countries and george bush told him, but i am convinced reason to care about these countries because we have yes, and whatus, was isolationist position. that's what i remembered. george bush position in television shortly before. when i compare the real george bush politics maybe after his election and that was said maybe it seems to me a real

cleavage. for me it is unclear what this ands all these slogans declaration and what does it mean for real u.s. politics after election. i can tell you it's impossible to prognose. because i am more close to democratic party maybe i have feeling that maybe speaking about democrats it seems to me more close, their declarations are maybe more close to what they are doing more. in republican party, it seems to me there's a big gap. i don'tit's also a question fort would like but i only to explain how it is complicated for me to understand does it mean, yes, donald trump is making big turmoil also in europe is absolutely true whatse you can imagine does it mean for us when aboutdy is speaking article 5 in similar way but it seems to me not only me but we

are careful and probably we are waiting what will happen because hope that the future u.s. iesident will keep rule, as said, will keep some continuity. unimaginable that the u.s., so important country, will leave maybe tog and start change the whole policy and i hope that your country and your system is strong enough, maybe to keep any future u.s. in some model to accept the rules because what i of all is chaos isause you know that brexit thing for us and turkey is absolutely thing and now what we need is u.s. which will be able chaos and to show us that you have each an interesting debate before

election but after the election be u.s. president which will be also predictable and us. be solid partner for it is what we need, maybe, that but you know also we know somethingions are special and for us for the result and i am convinced future president will be the good partner for us not only czech republic but also europe. we need u.s. everybody knows it. we need u.s. in commonwealth very much maybe. also we are living in post-american -- his book -- but it's limited. it's absolutely clear are important in commonwealth and very important what will happen in november in this country and i will keep my crossed to you because we are connected. karen: while the mic is passed charles, there's also been

about howwashington solid the consensus in the e.u. sanctionstaining against russia, which were extended further six months. u.k. perhaps involved with the debate in germany changing. consensus?s that mr. zaoralek: thank you for this very easy question. [laughter] mr. zaoralek: we were able to the sanctions until the end of the year. at the same time, you know that to start discussion in september, also on the level council between the act of the government and so we will have special discussion about russia. about russia now. in russia,t situation is unstable, that is no chance for fundamental change in short time because the program, reason of current russian behavior, is

internal. if you are not able to modernize tonomy, you are not able give perspective to developing economy and maybe you have alternative to find economy it's maybe both sad saw that me when i this tendency in russia to give image of europe as u.s. is main economy and how it was successful, this story. it's really disaster for me. now what they are doing in russia, in kremlin. concentrating on one very important topic. electionration of the in 2018. they made probably the main task, to prepare for this election. why i am practically convinced there is no chance for

and probably russia will continue in this -- on this naiveand maybe it will be to wait that something will will have we different nation. seems me situation is dangerous in some way. example thisfor scandal because it's very russia and for putin especially, as leader, because this scandal means that gap in theme program. it could beer that replaced by something. i'm not sure what it would be. that it will be nothing ukraine butn or maybe i can imagine also bad scenario. but it's real,

that's why i am not underestimating they are speaking about islamic state but whatdifficult prioritize is the most dangerous. maybe it seems to me also russia important very program. i am very glad that your kerry, visited tocow, made some attempt prepare some plan for ukraine, also for syria. but i'm hopeful but my optimism yes, that there is concreteally to have results in few months, maybe before this administration is and there is a limited amount of time before then but there is very -- i'm convinced we decided in warsaw, the approach to russia, on one side deterrence, on other side, to be open, is right decision.

seems to me is good result but i have no big expectation change thisable to in short time. on the other hand, in europe, we is starting discussion that also very difficult because it manybig press from countries from the site of sanction hasat the there iste results and no reason to continue like this. and on the other hand i am convinced that one of our main can only unity and i promise from the side of czech republic that we will try to position forted the future because we are not a limited we have tools. -- i hear the sanctions, it's nothing, it has no sense. but what other options, maybe to do really nothing?

maybe only thing that we can show that we can't continue afterss as usual, annexation of crimea and this terrible things. maybe we have limited tools but have toto use it and we keep -- a cry to keep unity for a long time. i hope we will be able to way.nue in similar in my opinion it may be better something like minsk three agreement because agreementced the two was not good for us. maybe to fulfill this condition, maybe most complicated for there is someow attempt to solve military conditions and then to create

to political solutions in .iev but i can't tell you how -- what we can expect is really chance maybe to something and create something like more agreement and moderation for us and the it'snian government but very tough and i hope that we keep this right position. in opposite, it will be to liftus, yes, sanctions now without any concrete step from russian side, me impossible. position. charles from johns hopkins university. to see you again, sir. i appreciated your refreshingly

comments, particularly about the united states, but on other issues, as well, so i'm going to ask ask you a refreshingly candid question, as well. and the question has to do with on your very deeply pro-european and pro-western approach to the world and the nature of czech liberal democracy. the question is this. as in other democracies, there forces that do not support you. i have in mind particularly president zemin who, especially when he was prime minister, but now, is surrounded by people. name of schlouf, his chief of staff and closely connected to russia. are other elements.

are illegaleral in mindies, i have particularly hungary and poland. exert aextent do they restraint on your noble ability lead the czech republic and keep the czech republic in the world? mr. zaoralek: it's clear that in many countries now it's not so to guarantee clear, easy, democratic way for the future it's probably the same in maybe for mee and it's very interesting to compare had opportunity to 1997.nato summit in it was very important summit because czech republic, hungary

was invited to be year.s of nato in this and i remember this atmosphere 1997, absolutely different, this atmosphere, for example, in saw maybe you can imagine tony blair, jacques chirac there. and atmosphere something like .eeling of omnipotence davidovitch, and maybe it horizon they had no frets. also in these days we were very glad we had a chance to be part of nato because there suspicion, maybe from

back, that maybe in future things could change and maybe we will need membership in like european union and nato. why i am speaking about this, i remember in this time it seems that everything is these countries had one task, maybe to catch this west countries and to be part of this liberal order and world. but you know very well thatta changed relatively quickly, mainly in 2008. this really -- atmosphere collapse ofom the to 2008 and in 1991 this fascinating atmosphere finished and changed and that is

reason why maybe this democratic discussion is also difficult in this eastern european countries because in the beginning was this feeling that we were on the right path to the paradise maybe and now from 2008 it was clear that things are much more complicated arethat it's not that you part of democratic system and everything is solved. and maybe some feeling maybe that, some feeling of is part oftion maybe this maybe disappointment now because the economically -- maybe after economic and crisis started also crisis in europe, then started this ukrainian-russia and then migrant crisis, now brexit. it seems in a relatively short

are living in absolutely different world and this changes also the thoughts, doubts and are nos, maybe there guarantees and maybe we are able that we have as i said only to it seems also that we need to be much more proactive a way how to keep our democracy alive. veryans something important for us, this feeling are living in world when no glasses. we have to be much more active and there are many questions we nobody isswer and able to help us. it is something which creates different atmosphere and i feel sorry but in this new also canerrain, we hear similar proposals, as you in hungary, liberal democracy and absolutely projects.

could see change. now this situation is much more realistic, that nothing is clear. we have to fight and we have to show that we are able to keep tos democracy and maybe speaking about czech republic, i said at the beginning that i see no czechzit ore something like this. i'm also convinced that in czech have relatively decent majority of people which are also willing and ready to atmosphere andew devote time and energy to keep the democracy alive. need, we needwe allies. we need allies in our neighborhood. it's not always which arend politics devoted to democracy. in also we need allies europe. of to repeat this experience

1930's, as i said, and also now i am glad to be here because very important ally we the u.s. and iin hope this ally we will have also after your election. i am convinced in czech republic we have relatively deep of democracy and that we are able to overcome all difficultieses and but what is life about in these years? nothing is certain. no guarantees and we have to be able to fight. we have to know what we are fighting for, and i'm convinced be -- to keepo allther, all democrats and people which know how important it is to keep values and some of life and that's why i am washington. karen: i still have a lot of people on my list but i'm goingl of the time so i'm

to take the next two people together but they may be the last two questions. gentleman there and gentleman here and we'll see how we are on time. my name is david barnes from i.b.m. washington.you in as a large investor in the czech like to see a more muscular role for the czech republic in the shadow of the particularly in the area and titip. need stronger voices for a pro trade agenda in europe the digital market. we see an important role for the czech republic to be more your existingand coalition, to draw in more that digitalse in single market we see an opportunity to continue the of binding europeans together and particularly at the consumer level, as well. thank you.

mr. zaoralek: very good question. i thank you for this question because i would like to tell what is dangerous after united kingdom, referendum, that countries in euro speak butstarting to maybe to change treaties, we and to go to basic treaties we have to change institutions, they're unsatisfied with the currency. there are some countries speak about it is a and moretart more integration. like maybe to help create some alliance with countries which will be more and more moderate in this because what i said today, we lessons but at the same time we have to concentrate on concrete things, to show people that we are able to deliver something. example,ngs are, for digital market, very concrete issues andso energy

also to be able effectively address the problem of migration and it's my ambition to show that we are able to concentrate things and concrete deliverable and what you say is fascinating example. from planet tv and i want to say thanks to the embassy who fantastic job representing the czech republic and your comments are very no-nonsense and we appreciate your leadership. going beyonds, kind of the fifth leg of this stool if you will about the environment, is cop 21 a way we can continue to have the european with union regardless of brexit as cooperation?orld because we're talking about military, economy, politics -- these other things -- but the environment is really one of and if we focus

on all these other things, how are we going to address the environment and the critical change that is coming to all of us. it's not going to stop. it's no respective of orders, even regions of the planet. comments, sir. thank you for being here. mr. zaoralek: it's also one of concrete topics and concrete items. i can assure you that we are very seriously this agent nations under the auspices of our prime minister. we are devoting time and energy this. will republic starting eco ince president of united nations and hope also the president of eco and ready to concentrate on these

environment and social issues. spectacle to big revolutions and big changes and am convinced on opposite, we have to concentrate on these concrete issues but i feel sorry that in czech republic, environment is issue is relatively serious, especially in that we are still using mines. in these days we have big problems because of these coal are probably the story have to to end and they solve very difficult social maybe at thealso same time chance to improve environment in this territory devastatedybe most because of this industrial. so it's perspective to be able environment and to be

for peoplenot only coming but also for people but it's very important in our territory is maybe to make youngtive people for are -- because you have countries on the east, baltic countries, and you can of hundreds and hundreds thousands of people are leaving from these countries and i'm isd that czech republic country where they are relatively stable in democracy young people are willing to stay and live and environment is in our own and it is interest, that's why we have participated in this program and seriously.y karen: when i welcomed you at the beginning, i said what a privilege it was to host you here. i can now also say it was a delight. thank you so much for your very and lively remarks. i learned a lot. thanks to all of you for adding mix that to the allowed us to cover even more territory. but please join me now in thanking the minister. [applause]

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on q and a,ay nice university of toronto professor emeritus, jean edward smith on biography of president george w. bush. >> maybe bush's biggest fault is a born again he is christian who brings that ideology into the presidency. believes he was god's agent here on earth to fight evil. called president chirac of france from the television trying to get france to join in attack and during the course of that conversation he told fighting goingre before the final judgment. are creatures in the book of the new testament,

the center of the universe for and fundamental christians and bush genuinely god's agent here on earth to fight eastern. 8:00 easternht at and pacific. >> in his weekly address, obama is joined by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. they discussed financial regulations on the anniversary of the signing of the dodd frank law. republican weekly address is chair ryans priebus. president obama: hi, everybody. i'm here with senator elizabeth warren, one of our strongest advocates for families and consumers like you. today we want to talk to you about some of the actions we've taken to protect everything you worked so hard to build. eight years ago, after some big

made irresponsible and risky bets with your money, we also slipped into another great depression. while the recklessness started on wall street, it didn't take pain forre it led to folks on main street. millions ofd cost our fellow americans their jobs, homes and savings. financial crisis wasn't an unstoppable act of nature but todidn't have rules in place stop wall street from taking enormous risks that threatened the economy. didn't have strong protections to keep consumers from being cheated by tricks and traps on financial contracts. president obama: so, when i took darkest days of the crisis, i promised you we recover from the crisis but we would rebuild the economy on a new foundation to thatsure a crisis like never happens again. senator warren: and president thea signed into law toughest wall street reforms, strongest consumer protections

in generations. trust me, i'm a tough grader, but these new rules are making moreinancial system transparent, getting red -- rid and making sure that you have someone to call if screws up. president obama: these reforms have made our financial systems safer and more resilient. part of passing strong consumer protections meant establishing first ever consumer financial protection bureau based on the idea that senator theen came up with before crisis even began. senator warren: every day, the good people at that independent crack down on dishonest and deceptive practices, like theones that helped cause crash. the proof is in the more than 27 million consumers who, in just five years, have gotten refunds relief from credit card companies, pay day lenders, debt collectors and others who tried to rip them off. president obama: before the

protectionnancial bureau, you didn't have a strong ally to turn to if your bank or if youtage of you were harassed or charged inappropriate fees. now you do. senator warren: the bureau is also there to help you make better, informed decisions. afore you take out a loan for mortgage or college, check out the agency's website. it could help you sift through the confusing, important details. president obama: republicans and banks who oppose these common-sense rules claimed they'd hurt the economy. we've seen what happened to the economy when we didn't have these rules in place and decide their claims, our economy is stronger today than it was before the crisis. out from the worst of it, our businesses have added million new jobs. corporate profits are up, lending to business is up and the stock market has hit an all-time high so the idea that this was bad for business just doesn't hold water. now, our task should be making sure we build on those gains and

make sure they're felt by everybody. senator warren: but every year, work, big banks and their republican allies in congress try to roll back these undermines and try to the consumer watchdog whose only you.s to look out for their nominee for president promises to dismantle all of it. they may have forgotten about the crisis but working and wes sure haven't haven't, either. and that's why we're not going to let them give wall street the threaten our economy all over again. president obama: whether you're a democrat, a republican or independent, if you're a hard working american who plays by should expect wall street to play by the rules, too. that's what we're fighting for. senator warren: it's about fairness for everyone. president obama: and responsibility from everyone. thanks to leaders like senator warren, our country, economy and are better off. let's keep it that way.

thanks for being here, elizabeth. senator warren: thanks for me.ng >> i'm chairman of the national committee. our party just wrapped up a republican national convention in cleveland and we're entering election as a united party committed to reviving ourperity, securing homeland. aren't budging from failed policy which is has left prosperous,less less safe and less free. they've been following the same aggressive tax-and-spend decades. for we are the party of new ideas in a world changing faster than ever. rid of jobget killing regulations and stimulate innovation that will middle class families thriving. democrats want the federal government to impose one-size-fits-all policies on everybody. independent people deserves individual solutions. the bottom line is republicans

believe in better. we believe in better schools. we believe in better healthcare. the we believe in a better government, more responsive to the needs of our people. we believe in a better economy hard work no thatr where you punch clock and we believe in a better chance at the american dream for everyone. presidencylinton only means more of the same failed status quo which has racked up debt, sent healthcare premiums soaring and kept middle class families wondering if a was ever coming. a clinton presidency means america will drift further from of limitedles government, free enterprise, strong national defense and empowered families. policy, a clinton presidency means forgetting our and enabling enemies. it was on her watch isis started darkness its wings of in the middle east and libya became a playground for radical

islamic terrorists. if given the chance, hillary clinton will stack the supreme actvists, extreme liberal judges who will treat the constitution like a doormat. perhaps worst of all, hillary clinton has perfected the art of personal gain. the clinton gravy train has been barreling down the tracks too long. americans have had enough of a government that doesn't work for them. they've had enough of the clinton's executions and cronyism and cover-ups. enough of the corrupt bargains and above-the-lawmen tality. this election is about our chance to stop all of that. listening tois americans from coast to coast who are anxious go a country which has lost its way. bring jobs back from overseas and hold companies who abroad send them accountable. he's going to stop illegal immigration and makes sure our government puts american citizens first. he's going to negotiate better trade deals, revive our ports

factories and breathe new life into the cities and towns eager to roll up their sleeves reclaim their place as the greatest manufacturing centers in the world. families are the life blood of our country and we can't thrive as a nation unless are thriving. a lot of them haven't seen a bigger paycheck in a long time. with donald trump and mike ready for aca is comeback after almost a decade of clinton, obama failures. november, vote republican up and down the ballot to and put our freedoms america first. reince priebus. >> one day before the start of the democratic national convention in philadelphia, here's what we're covering tomorrow. 10:30 a.m., a news conference with a group of delegates who sanders.ernie later, the philadelphia mayor and city officials talk about preparations for hosting the

d.n.c. the chairman of the r.n.c. will also be in philadelphia, along with donald trump's campaign chair, paul manafort. they're holding a briefing at 5:30. milleniala group of journalists talk about their experiences covering the 2016 campaign. live tomorrow on c-span. >> c-span makes it easy for you all the latest convention developments with the aspan radio app available as free download from the apple app store or google play. everydio coverage of minute of the conventions as well as schedule information andt important speeches events. get c-span on the go with the app.n radio the on c-span, communicators" is next, with chair, trade commission edith ramirez. then hillary clinton introduces

as her running mate in miami. later, our look at past conventions continues this the nomination of massachusetts senator john f. 1960.y in chair oframirez is the the federal trade commission, our guest this week on the "communicators."." thanks for being back on the "communicators," we appreciate it. charge of the f.t.c.? ?hat's the mission ms. ramirez: i'm delighted to be here with you, peter. the commission has a dual mandate to protect consumers and laws,e the competition enforcing the antitrust laws. that's the dual mandate so we very carefully at making sure that the the way that consumers interact with the marketplace, that's one of the andfocuses of the agency then we're also trying to ensure there's vigorous cpe