>> c-span, created by america's cable television companies, our live coverage of every minute of the republican and democratic national conventions is brought to you as a public service by your cable or satellite provider. greta: this week we have the chairman of the national republican congressional committee, congressman greg walden joining us from inside the quicken loans arena on the last day of the republican national convention ahead of hearing from the gop nominee tonight. at our set of the skyline financial group we have with us emily gooden, managing editor of real clear politics and 80 nathan gonzales, publisher of the rothenberg and gonzales clinical report to ask questions. let me handed over to emily for the first one. emily: thank you. i had a question about your nominee donald trump. house democrats are running against him pretty hard.

saying he could bring a wave for them to help take back the house either this or next cycle. i was wondering if you're getting to members and freedom to distance themselves from the nominee or do what they need to do, and how much of a drag is the nominee going to be on the house ticket? rep. walden: thank you, emily. i would say there are two candidates running for president. they seldom if ever embrace their own and acknowledge the problems that hillary clinton brings to their ticket in their house races. let me give you the data set. in the competitive races nearly every case hillary clinton's numbers are worse and donald trump's in these competitive seats. we are running in individual districts, not statewide or nationwide. incident predicated on the democratic side trying to tie a member to donald trump. it is easier to type democrat the hillary clinton and the failed policies of this last administration than it is to say

one of our members or candidates is just like donald trump. everyone knows donald trump has his own brand and has set a new course for the party. i think our members make up their own minds based on their districts. best why we are successful the house and they are successful in their elections in their districts and we had the biggest majority since 1928 in the house. we have work to do and they are doing their work at home. nathan: mr. chairman, how do you think the division we saw in the quicken loans arena on the floor on monday and tuesday, very visibly during senator cruz's speech on wednesday, how will that impact house races and how concerned are you about disillusioned or disaffected republicans, the never trump crowd not coming out to vote and hurting house races? rep. walden: we are a party that has a lot of voices. you heard that at the convention.

i think going forward you will see those voices get unified behind a common nominee that makes clear or is a choice here. which way do you want to go? a continuation of the status quo under secretary clinton, who has been part of the obama administration? or go in a new direction. we have supreme court seats at stake going forward. the next generation is on the line. we have issues about who will defend the constitution and follow the law. you will see us even more unified going forward. i feel good about where we are. i look at the data from the battleground states, from our districts. our members are working hard at home and our candidates are working hard. i feel pretty good about where we are at. nathan: on that, i know you have said you don't see evidence of a

wave. what will you be looking for specifically in your polling in the days and weeks ahead to see that it ends up developing? rep. walden: that's a good question. as you know because you watch this very intently and effectively as well, we watch all the time. a poll is a snapshot in a review near. we are always trying to look backwards and then look forward and say what is happening. we will be watching for it. there was a wave that developed in 2014 but i would argue our candidates were doing everything they needed to do to maximize the outcome in that election cycle in 2014. you look at john cap go in syracuse it was down several points about august at this time, maybe early september and ended up by winning by 20. now we have 13 bills passed in the house and two sign in the law and a strong campaign. he has both going for him. you look at the lease up in

upstate new york. receipt we took back from the democrats. she has had a terrific legislative cycle so far right a great campaign. we look at how our members are doing individually. are they getting work done? if they are an elected member in the congress, are they getting things done for the district? one of my favorite headlines -- she does and she has and she has results talk about. democrats really missed out on the recruitment side of things. many cases their hand chosen candidate lost. in new jersey, and the see john macarthur holds, their nominee hopeful ended up losing to a guy who had $400 in the bank and going three miserable bankruptcy himself. they are not in the right position in these seats.

they couldn't attract a candidate in most cases to run effective campaigns. i feel very good about where we are at. emily: mr. chairman, speaking of the polls, and the presidential election year it is different in an off cycle year. we are seeing hillary clinton the in these polls. studies show voters tend not to split tickets. she will have that drag effect on her to bring a democratic voters who elected democratic candidates. how worried are you about this, about not splitting the ticket? rep. walden: those are the kind of things we've been looking at for some time. when you 2016 would be a different turnout battle. it is a presidential turnout. let's go into the data set again. if you look at some of the recent national polling, it's always in the margin of error. some shows donald trump tied or a pointer to ahead, some show hillary clinton up. there is no readily going on.

and we get down into these individual districts where our battles are fought, we see donald trump beating hillary clinton. donald trump's numbers better than hillary clinton's. voters in these districts juan tabo for a republican when you asked them generically if you want republican or democrat in the house. they say we want a republican in the house. when you add on the name of either our candidate, incumbent or challenger, it's even better for us right now. again that's why we go back to you have to take this thing down to the granular level, which is the house level and look individually. not just the nationwide numbers. they don't make the case when you get down into the local districts. no crossover voting. we have 26 members of the house on the republican side in districts that voted for barack obama. there is clearly crossover voting.

it will occur in this election and if their whole campaign strategy is based on voters can't tell the difference between a presidential nominee in a congressional nominee, so be it. emily: getting down to the granular level, are there some house races they keep you up at night? rep. walden: of course. in any election cycle you have probably got 10 or 20 house races in play. it does narrow down to a handful at the end. we are not there yet. it is july, not the middle of october. i sleep fairly well at night. we have got primaries yet to play out where we have some opportunities, like in arizona 1 to take up a seat that had a democrat in it. she is not running against john mccain. that is a district that is voted

for president for george bush, john mccain and mitt romney. only two of those left in the country. that one and one in minnesota. arizona 1 is a seat we are very much engaged in. we think we can pick up the seat that the former head of the d triple c held. terrific state senator in his third term. every effective legislation. comes from the more democrat side of the seat and is running a very effective campaign. i think we have some opportunities for pickup. we will have others. we have lost a couple of district is a court-ordered redistricting. florida and virginia. that hurts right out of the gate. again, i think if we -- we have developed an advantage over the dccc, i think we have a good message. if you have to run this time as an insider party, you can't get more traditional insider status quo than hillary rodham clinton, former first lady, former u.s. senator, former secretary of state. she has been at this for 30 years.

this is a debate about status quo, insider versus outsider change, it's on our side. nathan: you mentioned democratic recruiting. take us behind the scenes on recruiting. specifically my home district is the oregon 5th that district used to flip back and forth between the parties. now democrats have had it for over a decade. they have struggled to find a good republican candidate, even though the district is still fairly competitive. you can use the district as an example. one of the conversations you had the potential congressional candidates and what goes on in those. rep. walden: first of all for the rncc standpoint, we don't spend money in the primaries. i have met with all three in the

district prior to the primary. they have to run their own races. wilkes ended up winning in the primary. a sharp young man. he will run an aggressive race. and it is a sort of best probably a d+ one district. when we look at districts we also have to go and look at candidate the candidate on fundraising, on how they are building up their races and meeting certain metrics. he now has to go raise a considerable sum of money to get to the next level. the primary just happened a month or two ago in the middle of may. now is the time when he knows what he has to do to go put together the kind of campaign that loosen up the rankings. he is doing a good job. he was in washington recently meeting with a lot of our

colleagues and some of the groups that will support him. i think he is building on that. there are other races around the country where you will see a battleground play out. in arizona. go up to the iron range in duluth, stuart mills. pushed upwards of ticket. he had a lot of down ticket push. i think he came with about 1.3% of winning that seek. you have hillary clinton putting miners out of their jobs. that does not sell well in the iron range in minnesota. stuart is back running a much better campaign. he learned from last time a doing a great job. i think there are opportunities out there for pickups certainly. nathan: for those potential first-time candidates, what are the most concerned about as they

contemplate running for congress? is it with her family is going to go through, being attacked, how much money you have to raise? putting your job on hold? what the you hear most most potential candidates? rep. walden: the answer is yes, yes, and yes. it is all those things. it depends on whether they have run for office before. if you run for the state legislature in a been elected, county commissioner, assembly or whatever, it's a different discussion because they know a little bit about what this is like. when you get to the congressional level it is much different. higher intensity, media scrutiny. generally, some states there was that it districts have more people and bigger boundaries in the congressional district. other states like oregon, there are 12 health members and six senators in each district on average. it really depends district to district. my discussion -- i never try to break the army get them to run. they have to want this end own heart and stomach.

they have to understand what that means. it's not a part-time effort. they have to be willing to make a full commitment or they should i make any commitment. if they are not full-time, they will not be successful. they will lose a year of their life that could be better spent. it is about how you structure a campaign to reach out to voters with an effective message. what it takes to do that. which means you have to raise money and have a good team. that team to be good, solid volunteers and you can build from that. you have to be able to raise money, communicate effectively, and frankly a dear friend of mine who passed away, dave frohnmayer, these to sit down and write a paragraph about why you are running for office. one paragraph. not a treatise. if you can't in your own hand explained to yourself why you are running, you will never explained to an audience. i think that was always really good counsel. you have to know what you are running. this is not just a job, this is

service to the public and you have to know in your heart what you are doing it or you will never be able to answer that question effectively to the people you are asking support from. all that adds up into messaging, finance, organization, commitment. you can't add time to the clock. every day you give up as the day you never get back. greta: we have about 10 minutes left in the conversation. apologies, chairman. i will go to emily for the next question. emily: image in the gop has the largest majority since 1928. that happened last year under your watch. the regret not going out on that high note and riding off into the sunset? any second thoughts about taking on this responsibility? rep. walden: yeah, thank you for that.

i heard that a lot from some of my friends and colleagues who said what are you thinking? you know next year is going to be harder. my view was it wouldn't be fair to the conference to grab that prize, the biggest majority since 1928 in what likely would be an easier election year for republicans than this one is and ride off into the sunset. i told my staff at the nrcc, and it's exactly what i believe. the last cycle was a big win, but this is where you earn your spurs. this is when you know it's going to be tougher you stay on and ride again. this is the one that will really make history if we maintain our gaines and pick up a few. i'm not saying we will suddenly get to the next level. but if we run the next best races we can with the best

candidate and incumbents doing their job and we are there to help them every step of the way, this is where it matters. we have such a great team at the nrcc last time. michael was cute together, move forward, and build on the successes that we started eight years ago. tom cole had a tough cycle. we have all tried to build on the successes of the past, learn from each other and keep this thing going in a productive way. i have got to tell you, i don't want to serve in the minority. it's no fun. i did that for four years in congress in two years in the oregon legislature. i want to get things done for my district and for the country that i think are positive. that's why i agreed to do it, because i thought it would be easy to ride of and say see you laterf and had a tougher cycle the somebody else. i thought it was better to stay around and get this done.

emily: is this your last one part are you to take it on the wartime? rep. walden: you stop that. this is it. generally speaking chairs do not go with into cycles anyway. it is an enormous time commitment. i knew that when i agreed to do it. frankly, i think it's fun for an organization to get new blood in a the top. they will build on what we have done. i have terrific people involved. and wagner, richard hudson and steve stivers has been at this for a long time. i want to people who understand what the nrcc does and how it operates. it's a big, business big budget, terrific, hard-working folks. i think we have some people in position, steve stivers said he will run again. they will take over and grow we have put together. i feel good about the future. nathan: chairman, you mentioned it's not fun to be in a minority. maybe some of your on people

feel it's not fun to be in this republican majority. let's say you lose 12 or 15 seats but you still in the majority, what does that do to paul ryan's ability to get reelected as speaker and how does that affect the republicans ability to pass legislation? rep. walden: we won't know the outcome of all of this until we know the outcome of the election. then we will know who is there, it was not there, and more importantly who controls the senate. chuck schumer or mitch mcconnell? and who is in the white house. i think if we are able to hold on to the senate, and it feels more likely that will be the case with sen. rubio running again, you are seeing them strengthen up right now.

if we hold the senate, we will hold the house. if we have donald trump in the white house and mike pence, as a house member former house member in my self as the current one, mike is a good friend and terrific leader. i think you will see us coalesce around paul ryan asked speaker. he is an idea generator. he is a policy wonk, and i mean that in the right sense of the words. we need to get america back on the right track. look at the polls. 73% of americans think the country is on the wrong track. how does that happen? we can do better on the economy, security, all the things talked about at this convention. if that'll come together, you will see a unified conference to move forward to where we have to get to. greta: we have got time for two or three more questions. emily: we have mentioned about house speaker ryan governing

with is expected smaller, more conservative gop majority. when he became speaker he famously said he wanted weekends to go back to wisconsin and be with his family. are you getting him out of the road on the weekends and what else has even doing besides fund-raising? rep. walden: when paul was considering running for speaker or taking it, he never went out and ran for it. that was not his goal. we talked about this. i said speaker banner like to play golf. a lot of that took place on the weekends. we don't need you on the weekends very often. we have some events we do, some retreats we do and he will be at those. but that is not where the big work gets done, certainly fund-raising. during the breaks for we are out that is what we need you on the road. he has performed incredibly well.

you got it right away and understood what this part of the business is about. his life in congress has been spent pretty much on the policy side. the ways and means committee on tax reform, entitlement for all these things. he has never really gotten over to decide of the real campaign apparatus. the is a quick study. partnership is terrific between our teams and between paul and me. we were both elected in 1998 and known each other a long time. he has delivered record sums of help, not only for the in rcc but also our members and also financially. his policy agenda, which is been inclusive in the conference to develop alternatives on the key issues americans are concerned about. not only do we have the finances that we need to run effective campaigns, but we also have the platform to go talk about this positive.

nathan: i want to ask you a couple of specific districts. well documented tension between iowa congressman, david jolly with the nrcc. what should we expect from the committee in terms of involvement, spending as they race tough reelection battles? rep. walden: we don't ever forecast what we are going to spend in the district. beyond that it's done to the independent expenditure arm of things. let me say this. we have worked closely with him over the last couple of years -- year and a half he has been in office. he is now part of the patriot program. he is a dues paying never to the

nrcc. we want him back in the house. i talked to him on a regular basis. he is talking to our team on a regular basis. we are in a good partnership. david jolly that the congress to run for the senate. he has now come back. the district changed under redistricting. it made his district and much more difficult challenge for any republican. he has decided to come back to that district. we look forward to having conversations about kind of race he intends to run. emily: one last question for you. oregon to washington is quite the commute. you have to travel a lot for that job. how many miles of the trouble this year, how many states visited? when was the last time he slept in your own bed? rep. walden: those are all good questions. those are all good questions. i'm not sure i have the answer. i can tell you this because i keep track of this. i have made 548 roundtrips to my district. i did a townhall, did a parade in some other meetings in baker

city. drove four hours, picked up my wife and spent the night in a hampton and in portland institute convention on sunday. the week before i was in three counties. i don't know the other. i'm on the road a lot. i can tell you that. the points for the hotel chains i stay in, i can probably set a record. i know the seats ever for virtually every aircraft known to the airline industry. you get to see the country. you are out. you to meet some incredible americans from different backgrounds that just want to go serve. that has been a terrific part of this opportunity to serve as the chair. i have got to be on the road a lot. the last time i slept in my own bed was maybe a week ago saturday night, i think. it is not as often as i would like. greta: we hope you get to use

this hotel points and get some relaxation next year and get back to your home soon. we want to thank you for being this week's newsmaker. rep. walden: thank you. it's been a pleasure to be on the show with you. greta: let me turn to our to reporters at the table. let's first talk about the other side. the counterpart for chairman walden. what are they saying about their chances for picking up seats in the house? nathan: they are trying to find a balance between doing the best that they can. they don't want to set expectations too high but win as many seats as possible. they are trying to get recruits for districts so they can take advantage of it. you look at polling. most republican incumbents are doing ok. butters are making a distinction between trump andy's house gop candidates.

i looked at 2006. another wave year. a lot of incumbents in late august and early september were still polling ok and in the bottom dropped out. we saw a national wave that swept up people at clay shaw. the house is kind of discounted as not being in play. there is time for the dynamic to change. greta: you have division from the other side. what is hurting their chances of picking up most of those seats? as if your numbers? emily: they have to pick up 30 seats and that's a tall order in any year. and also redistricting hurt them. it favored republicans. i liked what chairman walden said about donald trump's own brand. a lot of people really don't identify donald trump is a republican even though he is the

nominee of the party. greta: let's talk about money. nathan: they are raising millions of dollars. money is important. it helps to define the conversation and the debate. house races can be more difficult. you can be more difficult to cut through. there is not a lot of overlap between house races and presidential races. you have u.s. senate races that will be flooding the airwaves with ads. i think at the end of the data will be a couple of races where it will be decided by money, but most it's just about the message, the quality of the candidates, the campaigns, what's happening at the top of the ticket. those are almost bigger factors. greta: will house candidates, incumbents, the campaigning with donald trump? emily: i think that will be rare to see. there are not a lot of senate candidates here in cleveland.

they are really getting the message that i am my own person working for my district. in florida and illinois, they have not even endorsed donald trump. some do have the freedom from the party to not campaign with the nominee. greta: do they want other high-profile republicans out with him instead? emily: paul ryan is that they get this year. nathan: he represents different parts of the republican party. a fresher face. he is a leader. he is viewed as a wonkish, intelligent -- he is the way they want the republican party to go. it's not just the pr and local press, it is the money. people will come and spend money to see the speaker of the house if he comes into their district. greta: we are talking ahead of the final night here in cleveland. republicans will hear from their nominee tonight.

what do these candidates running for house and senate want to hear from their nominee tonight? what would help them? emily: i think the party unity and getting a unified message. donald trump is breaking a lot of new voters into the republican party. they would like this people to vote for them. i think what they also want to hear is toning down of some of the more controversial -- about the wall, the wall with mexico. there is a lot of latino districts that gop members hold. they want to see more of an inclusive message. nathan: it's a very similar -- i think what they want to hear and don't want to hear. it's about the wall and these things. things have become the stories that distract from what these republican members want to talk about. they have local issues. the chairman talked about local issues.

trump has a way of enveloping all the media and making it difficult for them to get their messages out. greta: what would you guys are watching for tonight? nathan: after wednesday night with senator cruz watching for unity. we already know it's an important trump crowd in the quicken loans arena. donald trump is on a large stage that everyone will be watching. this will be the most watched convention in a long time. emily: unity and a change in town. ted cruz says he did not like how donald trump talked about him in the primary. greta: we will have to leave it there. emily gooden with clear politics, nathan gonzales, appreciate you being on newsmakers. thank you. nathan: thank you.

emily: thank you. >> tonight, university of toronto professor emeritus jane edward smith on his critical biography of president george w. bush. >> may be his worst fault is the fact he is a born-again christian, who brings that ideology into the presidency. he believes he was god's patron ,ere on earth to fight evil trying to get friends to join in the attack and are in the course of the conversation he told him --t we are fighting god, god we are fighting -- before the final judgment.

that is the center of the universe for many evangelicals and fundamentalist christians. believed he was god patron here on earth to fight evil. >> c-span2 washington journal, live from the democratic national convention in philadelphia. --ing up monday morning national political reporter from the pittsburgh tribune review gives us a preview of the national convention. d and see bernie sanders delegate from washington state shares her efforts to cover her expenses to be at this year's convention, including turning to social media. and ohio state representative on the clinton candidacy, urban and

minority issues and what democrats hope to accomplish at this week's convention. be sure to watch washington journal live for the democratic national convention beginning at seven eastern monday morning. join the discussion. >> and a live look outside the wells fargo center, where the democratic convention takes place. final preparations before things get underway tomorrow at 4 p.m. eastern. we heard from the mayor of philadelphia and other city officials about what they are doing to ensure safety and the handling of potential protests. this is 25 minutes.

>> i want to knowledge the passing of a 20 year federation. andas a very sad evening sad time for his family. please keep him and his family in your prayers. we just want to recognize that. we are very excited for the week ahead. we think it will be a great opportunity to show what to get them how philadelphia hosts big events like this. i know many of you are interested in the technical aspects of our preparations. our managing director -- and our deputy managing director bryant answer your questions. these folks have done an incredible job of getting our city ready for the dnc. before everything officially kicks off, we want to give you an opportunity to speak with them.

i want to say two things. citye's thanks to our employees and state federal partners. in this roomg today and for the next few days, we will be working long hard shifts to keep our city safe. the second is about the extreme heat and whether we are expecting. it is important to take extreme heat seriously. excessive heat causes dangerous health conditions due to prolonged health temperatures. there is little relief due to higher than normal temperatures. has ra had four heat related deaths this year. check on your neighbors, limits time outdoors, and keep your

windows open if you do not have air conditioning. if you see people homeless or suffering from the heat, call our outreach team. distress or residents concerned about a senior sure to call the philadelphia corporation for aging heat line. the event of a thunderstorm please take shelter. safety personnel will direct you to the nearest shelter area. return toe able to your demonstration area as soon as the safety threat has passed. two medic tents, two misting tents and bottled water will be available 27 at fdr park. medics will also be assigned to marches and demonstrators are toed to request a permit

help ensure there is adequate staff on hand. there will be fire hydrant sprinkler cap's and bottled water for free. the city is not granting permits for camping during the dnc and demonstrators are encouraged not to camp in light of the safety threats by extreme heat at expected thunderstorms. with that we will take your questions. >> a marches planned in the city, some of them for miles. that could put your offices at risk who are out there -- officers at risk who are out there try to keep demonstrators safe. >> we recognize that and we have done these things before. 2000 we had the rnc and there were a number of marches there. maybe it is a little harder now than it was then. our officers are prepared and trained. water stations--

are equipped and coming around to them to keep them hydrated. >> keeping the crowds down and those volumes down. >> i really don't have an idea. i know our officers are out there with their equipment and protective vests. it is hot for them. i couldn't tell you whether it has an effect one way or the other. >> what did you learn from the team their? >> from cleveland's operation? everything seemed to go very smooth. i know we have police officers and commanders they're dealing with what is going on. if you have anything you can add >> i would to cleveland about four weeks ago for the express purpose of dialoguing with them to gleam as much information as possible about their upcoming rnc and our dnc.

were eight or nine chiefs who had similar events in the past and try to collaborate as much information as possible. we got a lot from that. on the grounds and they were able to get some vital intelligence, more so proving that we were on the right page and we got it comprehensive plan as you imagine. will keepfident we the people who are visiting here and working here safe. there any group you are keeping a close eye on? >> we have a responsibility to contact the first amendment rights of anybody concerned. just monitoring the entire event to keep everyone safe, including the workers, not just police officers.

city workers out there who are doing what will ultimately be a fabulous job. is going to beat tough with the heat, there is no denying that. week of recent shootings targeting officers in dallas and baton rouge, one of your own officers were shot last year. are you more concerned? an opportunity that might have officers in a more vulnerable decision? >> we are always concerned about our police officers. arenever know what they going to be confronted with. clearly we would be remiss if we didn't take appropriate measures our overall plans have not changed. additionalng some security measures to ensure the safety of the protesters, police

as well as the public in general. there were people who are not demonstrators who are hit with gunfire. we are taking all of that into account. we're hopeful that a lot of people will respect this process, this venue. done a significant amount of planning and conversations with many of the way ofers in the managing everyone's expectations, there's and hours. we are cautiously optimistic things will go well. we are always planning for impromptu protests, as we imagine they will happen. we have been dealing with them for the better part of 18 months. they will come as no supplies to us. >> what could be done differently then was done back in 2000? time. move forward in you learn from the things you did before.

in many cases we will get a lot more patient and tolerant with many of the protesters and demonstrators. some of the planning didn't change as significantly but the world changed. changed ineverything terms of having large-scale events. much of it is centered around that, whether it be our welcome america or the people visit we had here. we had a number of large-scale events here in philadelphia. tremendous coordination goes into that. police, not just fire, it is many other city agencies. the list goes on and on. city onrotecting the land, air and the waterways. fearful are you of the potential lone wolf act? >> it is hard to plan for the

unknowns like that. just when you thought you are beyond all that craziness and chaos you get something else happening. unfortunately the unintended consequence is everyone of those incidences prepares you in a way you didn't want to have to. debt thinkinks and in ways technically you never had to think before. >> how may officers will be on the ground? will you give us an estimate? them on not going to disclose that right now, it is significant. we are a little larger than cleveland. we have some coordination with other law enforcement entities. five counties are providing specialty services to us by the way of law enforcement. right now we are not prepared to disclose that information.

>> will they be removed, protesters who decide to camp overnight? -- we strongly discourage people from camping. however we will evaluate every circumstance. make those determinations as they come, as we will with many circumstances that will occur throughout the dnc. >> [inaudible] what will the police respond? >> we hope only the people with permits to protest, but clearly that won't be the case. it has not been the case in the last 18 through 20 months or so in the city. i can't tell you absolutely what we will do in every instance. everyone will undoubtedly be different. i don't want to put us in a corner by saying absolutely we are going to do one thing or the other.

>> newsrooms have been inundated with calls about 95 and the flat bridge going from four to two lanes. being, theyhey are are funneling the truck's off of those points to basically get them to other groups before getting into the city. is it going to look like that for monday morning rush-hour, that four lanes go to two northbound and southbound? >> in all likelihood it may. we are clear that type of vehicle will be prohibited from traveling along the routes. commuters should anticipate that. be patient. yes is the as if your question. >> the turnout in cleveland was far less than had been

predicted. about thelk difference between cleveland and philadelphia and why you believe the numbers will be far greater here? >> i don't want to speak for the mayor. my answer is i don't know if it will be different or greater. they expect in numbers and did not get them. it is sunday. i don't know what will happen during the week. it is a bigger city, but it is still way too early to start guesstimating numbers. >> where did that information come from? >> through some of the initial permit requests. people will permit for a certain number of people and half to one third will show up. >> you don't know what to expect? >> based on the weather, you brought it up earlier. you may have a 5000 plan march but the weather may cause 2000 to show up.

we don't really know. we will be prepared for whatever we are faced with. of other have been several protests throughout the weekend? >> no. i was speaking about numbers far and above what the permitted individuals indicated. we have absolutely no way of knowing that. and beyondcome above that, just to be clear. no one has been arrested as of yet. >> other civil citations? >> not as of yet. i don't know what has transpired since i've been standing here. >> one of the reasons we did that is we didn't have to risk it. to arrest anyone and a civil citations are one of the ways we keep people out of the criminal justice system. in advance toed try to expedite this as quickly as possible without making a formal criminal arrest. >> have you received any credible threats against the dnc

and philadelphia? no have not. clearly some things have come in in the last couple of weeks. nothing has proven to be credible in this point of time. the authorities including the our criminals intelligence agencies are remaining vigilant with regard to that. we will continue to monitor as many sites as we can. >> did anything change following the event in germany and france? >> clearly we would put down some additional barricades just to make sure the vehicles would not be of the do the type of thing that happened there. have been that there no specific changes with the overall plan. >> can you tell us about the decision, whether to decide having officers wearing polo shirts versus something with more protection?

>> our posture is to wear this all closed. so that we demonstrate we have no desire to be disrupt the of. allow as many people as possible to protest and demonstrate peacefully. that goes a long way towards conveying that message, clearly because some of the events that happened around the world that have been alluded to a number of times. people that some won't be part of any protest or demonstration. they aren't there to do anything. they are protesters as much to protect all involved. >> following the recent terrorist attacks, how did they changed the outlook heading into this event among city officials? >> what we are dealing with international is sad and frightening and unpredictable. as have to go into every day if it is a normal day.

you have to keep necessary precautions. it is such an unpredictable world i couldn't tell you, other than going each day as it's a normal day, even though it is a four-day convention. go --lly we won't have to hopefully we won't have to respond to anything bad. >> specifically any attack following the events in france and germany. >> we would be remiss if we didn't take those precautions. we did take those precautions. did you plan to do that? >> i can't say enough about my colleague in cleveland. answer is you don't

have any other choice. you don't have to be out there conveying to the men and women that you are out there, out front with them. also have to convey that to people protesting and demonstrating, as well as the general public that you have the situation under control. kudos to chief williams as well as everybody who planned alongside him. >> people who may be bringing their families, are there any protests in and around the convention center? protestse anticipate in and throughout center city. be very 99% will peaceful. many of these people indicated they have no desire to do anything other than express their first amendment rights. will be in center city,

there's no question about that. i'm going to let the mayor press person tell you that. we are going to do something daily. i think we will be putting out some information in the morning that it won't necessarily be in the form of availability from me, but later in the day you will get that from me. >> something that was more reminded and learned of the resiliency of these police officers, law enforcement officers and their ability to plan significant events, that was a tremendous endeavor. it just showed us that we are doing the right things with regard to our planning. terms of anything we did wrong, i wouldn't say anything stands out, but the constant

reminders you are on the right page. the same thing as indicated with a trip to cleveland. these things help you significantly and understand that planning is where it should be. >> is it a fair assessment? --this where emergency mode emergency operations deals with protests? >> it is a coordination and information sharing hub for you and when you have a national special security event there is a variety of different solidity's that are things correlated out of. this is really the city's nucleus. in addition to police and fire and public safety, we also bring in our support partners. contingent of our colleagues from our departments who are out working with us.

managed through this facility. >> obviously the police is an organization we respect. --y express their continued express their opinion. that's it. >> if they have the right -- they have the right to express their opinion. say what height to has to say and i don't personally wade into political rhetoric. it's not at i do. >> [inaudible] >> yeah, there's been a comprehensive plan around that. you always do that with a

large-scale event. we are obviously helpful that we don't have to resort to that, but if we do we are very prepared. >> [inaudible] any cause that's been determined, or any other information? >> obviously it's still very early. it was very well respected. i guess the best way to say that is that around 1:00 in the morning last night or this morning at temple we had more than 100 firefighters there. the mayor was there, on duty, off-duty to say goodbye. it certainly still early and we will provide information to everybody when we have more information to provide. i can tell you right now that we are really -- we are certainly going to be fulfilling all the requirements of our mission around the dnc, protecting the city 24/7, 365, circling up and working together the way that we do as brothers and sisters, rallying around his family, doing right by him. >> can you confirm the fire from earlier in the day? >> our firefighters and medics are

absolutely responding to incidents. >> how long has he been with the department? >> he's 42 years old with more than 20 years on the job. >> during this year or 10 months leading up to it, has there ever been a point that you said to yourself, why did i agreed to do this? >> no. [laughter] look, it's -- it's very exciting to see with going to happen in philadelphia with this historic happening.

it's going to result in the first woman president of the united states. that is exciting and wonderful. the details and the nitty-gritty sometimes get a little exasperating. i mean, yeah, there's never been a time to myself when i thought i was sorry that we had it. i'm looking forward to it. after how it ended last week, i was done at how bad it -- i was stunned at how bad it was. did you underestimate how much work it would be? >> the pope was this times five. i was not involved in the direct planning of the pope's visit but was in the city and watched what was going on. it went very well. people were nice to each other. the key is to show some love and understanding. people are hurting. people are fearful. we need to put the country back on track but we cannot do that

with marginalization. we have to include everyone. that has been our message when it comes to protesters, elected officials -- we need to come together in a unified way to move the country forward. >> what did you mean? >> the country needs some inclusion. it needs some love. .t needs some help it needs some energy. what we are living in our difficult times but it is not all a downer. this is a great country. to have a major party candidate talk about how bad the country is, the country needs to hear from us. [indiscernible] thank you.

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hillary clinton's vice presidential pick a nickname. corrupt kaine. nominee has been bashing the virginia senator almost -- regarding the gifts accepted while tim kaine was governor. tim kaine never tried to hide the gifts. most of it was travel to conferences or campaign events that there are other gifts like clothing and free lodging in the caribbean from a friend. all of this was completely legal though because virginia has lax gift laws and tim kaine's team was quick to note that there were no exchanges for the gifts. bob mcdonnell was convicted of corruption charges though the supreme court overturned those charges in june. the biggest difference between mcconnell and tim kaine was the

former did not disclose the gifts. this was probably a smart move by donald trump. tim kaine does not have a national profile. defining heavy early is the best way to go for the gop. is a goodaine" nickname for the gop to use. this nickname though is not based in fact but that will not stop the donald trump campaign from using it for the next three months. >> back at the national constitution center in downtown center city philadelphia, former governor ed randel -- was that a fair video? tim kaine gets the issue. he has disclosed, voluntarily, it was not illegal in

pennsylvania. oneisclosed there never was talk that any gift was connected to any official action. i think it is the usual effort by the trump campaign to distort acts and to cast people in negative light. what i did not like about donald than it wasch other angry and dark and painted a horrible picture of the country, what i do not like about it is that he consistently did not tell the truth. he said he was going to take care of violent crime in america, i am a former district attorney and former mayor and federal government has very little to do with violent crime. it is the mayors that control the police forces. if you are going to do something , tell us that,on

but do not say, i am going to take care of crime on my first day. he said on the first day, it ends, it does not end and you have not told us one idea how you will do it. he lied about hillary clinton being against the second amendment. he did not tell the truth and he did not substantiate anything he said with fact that he is lying about tim kaine, and is a prize. host: before we get too far into politics on that degree, what did you think of the supreme court decision regarding former governor bob mcdonald? think it does have to be a clear quid pro quo before you can take a public official and charge them with a crime. if a public official does things

that are inappropriate and almost everything that governor mcdonnell was charged with, i would say and you would probably say it was inappropriate. the remedy for that is disclosure and the voters are the ultimate remedy, they vote him out of office as a have done with other officials that have been accused of like things. to convict someone of a crime and there was no quid pro quo wrong. i think is i think the supreme court may have gone a little too far and i think they basically got it right. host: last time there was a political convention in philadelphia, you were the mayor. guest: i was the mayor and we had more republicans and we put on a great show. republicans used the historic sites to create a feeling of background and patriotism and an upbeat convention. the george w bush convention was upbeat, he was a passionate conservative.

wasrepublican convention dark and angry and ben carson said that hillary clinton talks to lucifer. paul manna for attacked the republican governor of ohio. it was strange, ted cruz delivered a major speech and essentially said, vote your conscience, which is a way of saying, i am not voting for this guy, our nominee or it it was the most is our thing i have seen a donald trump shouts his speech for 74 minutes. i thought it was stunning. i preface that by saying, every time i made a prediction over the last two years, i have been wrong. in 2000at was your role as the mayor of philadelphia? i was responsible for winning the bid of the organization i put together. then i was involved in the planning of all of the

logistics, transportation, hotels, delegate entertainment, , a unique thing here in philadelphia. in 1990 nine, president clinton asked me in november to be chair of the democratic party and i accepted. from that moment on, i was recused from doing anything for the republican convention. guest: what is your -- host: what is your role in this convention? guest: i am chairman of the host committee which has given me the task of raising $64 million. we have only 14 paid employees with us from the beginning and about a third of them were in charlotte and denver. we put together, i think, a great plan and we have every agency accounted for. having said that, i guarantee there will not be some problems, especially with security because of demonstrators.

i think we are ready for every contingency. host: have the donors been disclosed? donorsthe law says the are disclosed 60 days after the convention. people say, you have to be more transparent. why do we have transparency about who gives, so voters can make up their mind of that influences their vote. 60 days after the convention leaves at least five weeks before the presidential election, so any voter interested in reading press accounts can go on the website and see who donated to our convention and they can assess whether any of those donors were such that they might not want to vote for the party in question, either us or republicans. that is why transparency exists, so voters can make a judgment about who we are raising money from.

host: did you ever consider running for president? guest: the timing was not good for me, if hillary a clinton -- hillary clinton announced for a five user that she was not going to run, i may have considered loveg it a shot, but i hillary and i headed up her campaign in pennsylvania in 2008 . it was a great moment for me and she goes over the top tuesday night. all we want can say negatively about donald trump, but we would be fools not to realize that some of the message is right. he is right about china, but hillary has said she wants to crack down on some of china's abuses as well. donald said in a way that resonates with people who are out of work or people working in jobs that are paying them half of what they used to make and it resonates. it is an easy answer, not the

right answer, trade is not what destroyed american manufacturing. the bigger factor was technology. ira member going down to the naval shipyard as a kid and there must've been about 100 welders with blowtorches and mallets, today you still have a very good functioning shipyard and you see four welders at a computer operating robotic arms and it has nothing to do with trade. a simple andrs direct message which is easy to understand and which sets off a button of frustration and anger and it is very effective and we would be mistaken if we think that is not a message that resonates with some working-class democrats. host: is he someone you know? guest: i know donald very well and he probably does not believe me when i say i like him as a person. he is charming and he has come

at times, a very good heart and i have seen him do nice things for people. a conservative, by the way, donald trump is almost as progressive as i am, truth be told. i just do not like the way he has campaigned and i do not like the name-calling. iran for office 17 elections and i never called my opponent a name. when i ran for governor, every candidate iran against -- i ran against, either work for me or endorsed me. running for office is hard, holding office is hard, you should not demean people. terrific, he is a public server, hillary clinton has given her life. hillary clinton graduated from be a law school, she could made unlimited amount of money by going to one of the big wall

street law firms, what did she choose to do? she spent several years of her life working for the children's defense fund. she is a terrific person and she is not cricket. -- crooked. she probably made a mistake, but she is not crooked. -- put out a tweet that hillary clinton chose a good man that has good instincts and is a fine united states senator. i assume tim kaine will work hard for the republican -- for the ticket in arizona. is a decent guy, i like cam and i think he wants to do the right thing. i think his views are screwed up, but i will not say he is a bad guy. and on theing this inside of this convention, i have said publicly on the

airwaves, let's spend no more than 25% of our time telling people what is wrong with donald trump. let's spend 75% of our time telling people what is right with hillary clinton and tim kaine and be specific about answers to problems, specific details so the public can say, you know, that is right. , itce community relations is a question of training. task forcebama's says the main thing we need to do is train our police better on how to interact with the public and hillary clinton said she would put $1 billion in federal money for a fund that police the access that money for training. to train about community relations and timidity policing and how to interact in difficult situations. that is a concrete proposal that means something. host: let's take some calls, richard in oakland on a democrat line. -- i am awould like

longtime democrat all my life. i think hillary clinton hands-down is the most qualified -- one of the most qualified nominees to be president we have ever had. there has been a right wing targeting of her ever since she was in the white house with bill because basically, they are afraid of hillary. she knows how to get things done and she is proactive and stands up for her values. she does not take groep from anybody. as far as the -- she does not take crap from anybody. the democratic party is the party of the people. people who are disadvantaged, republicans are actually anti-all of those things. the republican convention was an absolute disgrace.

i have never seen such angry hatred fear mongering speeches. it reminded me of a lynch mob. host: you got a lot on the table. ed rendell. -- i agreeonly thing with everything richard said. when hillary clinton was in the senate, she a lot -- got along terrifically. republicans,th mitch mcconnell said, i have no problem working with hillary .linton as president lindsey graham said he would have no problem working with .illary clinton as president hillary reaches out and listens and tries to find common ground, it is not her way or the highway. you do not have to take her word -- that, she had six years

eight years as a senator to prove that. host: diane is going from reston, virginia. on the independent line. caller: i just wanted to ask the former governor about, how does he think that hillary is going to overcome this aura of distressed around her? i think that when i ask people, what did she do? there is benghazi, the e-mails, what happened there? they cannot really answer those questions. i was curious to know what you think is going to happen at the convention to help that and one more thing. -- guest: go ahead. host: she is gone. guest: diane asked a good question, i think we have to reintroduce hillary clinton to the american people. how do you do that with someone that is well-known? there if you -- very few people

know that she turned down wall street law offices to work with the children's fund. i think we have to reintroduce her and point out that benghazi, there were six congressional committees all controlled by republicans and one independent committee, all of which found nothinglary clinton did wrong, including the last committee that had her on the witness stand for 13 hours. they issued a report in the dark of night about a week ago which said she did nothing wrong. republicans said she did nothing wrong after investigation after investigation. directormails, the fbi cleared it up the second day and ironically went before the republican committee. none of the e-mails that were sent out or received was classified at the time. ones that the director said were classified, he corrected the next day and

said, they were classified, but after the fact. the same thing happened to: powell and condoleezza rice. they sent out e-mails from private accounts that were later found to be classified, but were not classified at the time. reintroduceave to her and tell people all of the great things she has done in her career and all the right choices she made. and at the same time, explains the things that have been most damning. will that take away years of negative commercials? not entirely, but it is hard. debuted at the 2000 republican convention, it is in the convention center and 6 different museums and it is for people who love politics and government, to them, it is like fanfest at the baseball

all-star game. you can comment here great speeches, it is amazing. delegates, unless they are in their 60's or 70's never heard mlk's speech at the national mall, harry truman's speech where he said, i just tell the truth and it feels like hell. we have speeches, we play games and you can sign up to play political feud and we do political trivia and a media contest. they compete to see who knows the most political trivia. that is monday at the constitution center. we have a fuselage of air force one, the exact replica of the one lbj used, it was jfk's

plane, he flew back with president kennedy's body on it. we have a replica of ronald reagan's oval office with pictures that reagan had on the back of his desk. you can take pictures coming off the plane waving like you are the president and it is fun stuff, particularly for kids and .e have the c-span boards c-span has a board that tells the mena competence and problems that everyone of our 44 former president had during their administration and we have the c-span bus which will be outside the constitution center. if you are a political junkie, it is wonderful and c-span -- it is right up there. electoral given us

college boards to explain to everyone, particularly young people, how the electoral college works. if you are a parent and you have kids that you want them to learn about government and get involved, go to politicalfest. you can get a ticket online at dnc/politicalfest. host: mark, go ahead with your question or comment. caller: what is hillary clinton going to do for the veterans at -- of this country? guest: one thing she is going to do is not cut the veterans budget. it was cut significantly and guess who cut it? .he republican party hillary clinton will put resources into improving the va, medical system is a

disaster and that we should privatize it. 85% of veterans say they do not .ant the va privatized hillary will improve it and put more resources and it and we will certainly not cut the budget. paul on the independent line, you are on with former governor, former chair, ed rendell. caller: it seems that you are -- both republicans and democrats are out of touch. when people are getting gifts, like a $14,000 trip to the caribbean, that does not sound like -- nobody that i know or anybody watching this right now is familiar with people getting lavish gifts, simply because they are nice people. usually people expect something for them. the fact is, you can talk about messaging and historical sense of philadelphia and what have you, but the average person really has not been served that well by either party and when

people are getting gifts and sweetheart business deals, it reeks of finality. the idea that, there is no specific quid pro quo and therefore, it is ok, i do not think the majority of americans are buying that anymore at all. host: all right, i think we got the point. guest: i think paul raises a good question and that is the reason we should not take gifts. the trip to the caribbean was a personal friend who paid for it because tim kaine on a government salary could not afford it. and pennsylvania, that would not is.egal, in virginia, it voters and citizens make the mistake thinking that politicians necessarily react to .ifts or campaign contributions the largest contract i gave out as mayor of philadelphia was to redo the terminals at the

airport. it was hundreds of millions of dollars and there were three bidders. two were philadelphia groups that were headed by people that had given me and raised over $100,000 and the third was the boston group teaming up with a local aftercare -- african-american business that would have given me $1000. boston people i had never met never gave me a dime, i picked them because they had the best. did i regret i cannot help my guys, yourtold them, bid is not competitive financially and the boston group has done some airport around the country and it had gotten rave reviews, so we picked them because they were the best. we have to take money the way the system is, we have to raise money and you like to help your contributors, but if you are decent,nd -- honest and i think most politicians -- all,c officials are, not

you do what is right in the end for the people you serve. number two, the government did not do anything for people. what was the cause -- caller saying? do you get social security? medicare? d that basically gives you almost free prescription drugs? do you get va benefits if you served in the army? >> c-span's washington journal, live from the democratic national convention in philadelphia. the national political report gives us a preview of the national convention including speakers and themes of the day. the bernie sanders delegate from the state shares her expenses to

be at the convention including turning to social media to raise her funding. a hillary clinton delegate on the clinton candidacy, the parties message, urban and minority issues and what the democrats hope to accomplish at the convention. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal, live from the democratic national convention. join the discussion. c-span makes it easy for you to keep up with all of the latest convention developments with the c-span radio app. available as a pre-download from the apple app store or google play. of every coverage minute of the convention as well as schedule information about importance beaches and events. get c-span on the go with the c-span radio app. -- q&aght, on c-span with jean edward smith.

after that, theresa may takes questions from members of the british house of commons for the first time since becoming prime minister. later, a group of young reporters share their thoughts on the 2016 presidential race. >> ♪ >> this week on "q&a,; jean edward smith. he discusses his book "bush: a critical biography of george w. bush." brian: jean edward smith, author of "bush." when did you first think it was worth doing a biography so close to his presidency. finishedrd: i had just the eisenhower biography. i was in new york having lunch with my editor at nd