hillary clinton's position on the first female major party presidential nominee. now "washington journal." ♪ host: last night hillary clinton joined president obama on the wells fargo center as he passed the political baton off to her. she accepts the nomination tonight. good morning. "washington journal" live in philadelphia. in this opening segment, share your thoughts on barack obama's eight years in office, hillary to chief ofcendance the democratic party, and your thoughts on what she said shea tonight. -- say tonight.

democrats 202-748-8000. republicans 202-748-8001. independent 202-748-8002. join the conversation on facebook or twitter. we will get to your phone calls in a minute after this news update from washington. >> politico, party of two. politico magazine, how the two came together for this election cycle, he writes that one of the most important it hidden storylines of 2016 has been the obama effort to shape a race he is not running in an antiestablishment environment he can no longer control. for the past two years he has worked quietly on clinton's behalf, never mind the not so convincing line that he was waiting for the democratic electorate to work its will, offering his former rival strategic advice, share his top

dispatched his, top political adviser to calm the clinton's during that not so infrequent freak outs over the performance of their staff. the one thing he would not do is endorse her before she cleared the field. were darkest after her devastating defeat to senator bernie sanders in new hampshire, her staff urged him to break his pledge and rescue her but his team refused. the clinton view of obama is conflicting, people close to both says she has repeatedly said i am not running for his third term, while talking -- taking pains to emphasize the differences on issues such as free trade and syria. she started the campaign committed to earning the nomination without his overt closer tohe has been the president after mutual self interest as the long primary season has worn on.

about the speech last night from a president, his wife michelle obama tweeted this out, "that is my man, your truth, dignity, and grace reminds us what real leadership looks like. i am proud of our president." hillary said this, "we love you back." this is how the speech is playing out on huffington post. with aacity of hope picture of the two of them and then the drudge report, pass the baton and $20 trillion in debt. a reporter from cbs, the eight say president had been through six drafts of the until 3:00stayed up a.m. rewriting after he watched his wife speak on monday night. host: inside the wells fargo center, a live picture. they have redone the podium and the stage area a little bit.

they have moved the staff from the wings of the stage. that is the stage hillary clinton will be on tonight when she accepts the nomination. ryan in houston, texas, democrat line, you are the first voice this morning. speechan extraordinary caller: -- an extraordinary speech. they brought to the table what the democrats are about, about all the people, not just a couple of people. this was extraordinary. i was proud of everybody, especially president barack obama. he has gotten better every year as the president. god bless america. robert in call is arlington, texas, independent line. what did you think of the president speech and what would you like to hear from hillary clinton? caller: i do not think that

barack obama -- he is a great speaker, the only thing he has done in eight years. i want to talk about hillary's legacy, her daughter has affluenza and she will pass that on to the great-grandchildren. me thatbelievable to this person has such a rude legacy. she think she will be the first woman president but chelsea will be her legacy and chelsea is like the person in texas, ethan afflicted with affluenza, she thinks the consequences of her actions -- he is entitled to everything, she has a sorry bunch of in-laws and are criminals. it is a bad situation all

around. -- chelsea clinton clinton will introduce her mother tonight. next call is sharon in kansas city, kansas, republican. hillaryi think that needs to start doing some of this stuff they say she knows how to do. like secure the homeland. defeat isis. what is she waiting for? host: is that all you have? caller: yes. then out for it, maine, independent line. maine, independent line. caller: a quick statement about the e-mail server.

with theoccurred hacking of the dnc by the russians, i guess. is not the best thing in the world but not done with contempt. russiansump asking the to conduct espionage against anyone in the united states is says itne -- even if he is a joke, it is not coming should not joke about it. tpp, though i would like to stop it, it it should be pp, trump, pence, prudent. -- putin, . host: bill republican line. caller: good to see you in

philadelphia. i wouldion is this -- like to say to the american people. ok? hello? host: you just keep talking, we are listening. caller: ok. i would like to say to the american people, i came back from europe, if they would like a social government in this country and want to be in hell, i pray for them to be in hell because of they will not put donald trump in their, that the guy is not a politician. it is amazing how people can be so stupid. and so naïve and do not see the whole picture of the whole situation. is the onlyton thing they say, she has been there for 30 years, why would you put the same person in there for 30 years. forget about -- the gentleman

called about putin. i met him, he is a nice guy. host: next call is vicki in indianapolis, democrat line, good morning. barack obama passed the political baton to hillary clinton last night. caller: good morning, it was awesome to watch. democrat ing black thought that barack did an excellent job of introducing hillary in a positive light to the country. and letting us know that because women and minorities, we have to work extra hard. just to get the same recognition. , a soon-to-bele former president and our soon-to-be current president, they have worked their butts off and i believe that if these two people have their best audiology

-- ideology and the best problem-solving for the country as we are now. , if: as a lifelong democrat you remember back in 2000, how more did not run -- al gore did not run with his record with bill clinton, should hillary clinton run on barack obama's record? caller: nio. -- she islf-made self-made and has worked hard, americans believe in individuality, that is what makes us great. in herself, it in conjunction with what the democratic party has been trying to do is what will make our country great. that is what hillary has always been about. host: a little bit of the president from last night.

time and again you have picked me up and i hope sometimes i have picked you up. [applause] pres. obama: i ask you to do for hillary clinton what you did for me. i asked you to carry her the same way you carried me. you are who i was talking about 12 years ago when i talked about hope. you fueled my faith in our future, even when the odds were great, even when the road is long, hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty. the audacity of hope. [laughter] america, you have indicated that helped over eight years and i am ready to pass the baton and do my part as a private citizen so this year, in this election, i am asking you to join me to reject cynicism

and fear and summon what is best in us and elect hillary clinton as the next president of the united states and show the world we still believe in the promise of this great nation. journal" isngton back live at the national constitution center in philadelphia. carmichael, california, independent line, you are on the air, what did you think about the president's speech and what do you want from hillary clinton? by the the speech president was inspiring and wonderful, just like the speech by bill clinton. relatively young i am cynical about politicians, they were both really inspiring. i was very touched and impressed. thes not inspired about

continued insistence about the greatness of america and references in this convention for obama that only in america can one rise so high. this is false. it happens and all other countries in the world. even in the united kingdom, the monarchy which is a constitutional monarchy, social mobility is -- has increased and it is greater than the united states. a factual point about the speech by obama, he spoke about american greatness in the patriots fighting against your , anyonehe revolution who has studied the revolutionary war cannot say that the richest people in the world at that time were tyrannized. hear politicians

say that the usa is the greatest country on earth, what is your reaction? caller: greatest in what? yes, the most powerful. wealth and prosperity and military power. in education, i teach at the university, my students are not prepared, not just in math and science skills but in english language, students go to college and do not know how to write a sentence or paragraph, this problem stems from earlier education. does it say when people heart on the greatness of america? it stands out when they emphasize how america is particular, peculiar because someone like obama or someone like a bill clinton could not rise and become essentially prime minister of a place like england, we know that is false, look at margaret thatcher who -- she came from very

humble backgrounds, more humble than barack obama. he went to an elite private prep school like the bushes. this is something that is not exceptional. this we hear repeated over and over and continues this myth about american secularism and i think it is dishonest by both parties. in.: thank you for calling chris in alabama tweets and, ron for near said it best, democrats should have dropped the balloons last night, it was perfect. florida, independent line, you are on the air. caller: i would like to say that i felt that our president was eloquent and unifying in his remarks.

i felt this was the attitude we need in our country today. whether you are republican or democrat, you need to stop the hate talk and it has to be more unifying. i wanted to point out as the granddaughter and daughter and mother of a policeman i am proud to say this is the legacy my family had to serve, not to be devices and racist and when the president of the can call for an understanding of a black man leaving his home in fear and a police family caring for their life when they go out, that is the commonality that has to unify our country on all levels, on all socioeconomic groups, it has to be unifying, positive message, not a divisive message of hate and fear that is coming. as you look at history, i am a history teacher, when fear takes over our country, the results are never positive and i praise the president for his unifying

comments. host: the philadelphia inquirer ays -- has this headline from quote from president obama, "america is great already." do you agree? flawed i agree, we are but as the president pointed out, the problem is you always think you must succeed and that stops people from trying. i may not would be, have always succeeded but at least i tried and i think that was the message that in america everybody has the opportunity to strive and try if they want to take that baton and go forward and that is what i feel is great about america. waldorf,ela in maryland, democrats line. good morning. morning. let's go ahead and move on to

ron in madison, connecticut, republican. we are listening. worried about the integrity of the democrat vote. we have had issues in connecticut where did democrats voted for our governor. democrats voted for our governor, multiple -- one person -- voting multiple times. you have heard about democrat voter registrars being arrested for voting multiple times. i do not think the integrity of the democrat vote is there and i am worried about them fraudulently voting. enough ballots in new haven and seven voter registrars in new haven or kind of investigative but there mayor is a democrat. they were all african-americans.

i worry about the integrity of our about. it seems to be an undercurrent in the democrat party that likes discipline and security and who will monitor this and keep track of the integrity of the democrat photo -- democrat vote? times has angton story about the san francisco billionaire, a former hedge fund turned climate activist is the toast of the democratic national convention, the biggest dog at the wells fargo center not named clinton, obama, or sanders, he was the single largest individual donor, democrat or republican in the 2014 midterm elections, spending $74 million and on his way to repeating it this year, already syncing $31.5 million into the campaign, the most of any contributor, including george soros. it says that he is often described as the answer to the

koch brothers for the left, he is not keeping a low profile. were no shows the rnc but he has been at the dnc and his reception was packed with a-list operatives and richard blumenthal, then jimmy carter merkleyard markey, jeff and sheldon whitehouse. he accused the coax -- >> the way that california continue to lead the united states to live up to our potential to lead a coalition of progressive groups standing up for each other.

economichat means justice, whether that means environmental justice, whether it means women's rights, racial justice, immigration reform, we think it is important that california democrats stand up for each other and participate together in a progressive policies toross -- that if we hang together we went across the board and if we are separated we lose. >> that was the san francisco billionaire. george soros is not spending as much money as him but politico reports the billionaire who has dialed back his giving has committed more than $25 million to supporting hillary clinton and other democratic candidate and causes. this story this morning, a

follow-up on the dnc e-mail lake, this from law news started by ben abrams, a high-profile profile law firm caught up in the dnc wikileaks next desk mess, a group of bernie sanders supporters filed a class action lawsuit against the dnc and now former chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz. they are demanding that attorneys from perkins coie llc been removed -- be removed. attorneys have been given strategy advice to hurt sanders. well before he dropped out. they have discovered that attorneys from the firm are representing the dnc and hillary clinton campaign. the lawsuit filed before the leaks. some news this morning following up the latest on this dnc e-mail lake. back to peter in philadelphia. host: back to the national

constitution center and this , the reaganve me optimism now belongs to the democrats. call comes-- next from new york, republican line, what did you think of last night and what would you like to hear from hillary clinton? caller: i am not a hillary fan but donald trump is tainted. i feel she is an opportunist. she was for tpp. but when donald trump said he was against it, she is against it, i do not see how a public servant, she and bill could make tens of millions of dollars using their office to enrich themselves. i think it is wrong and needs further investigation. i think people should not vote on the basis of genitalia. she is a woman that that is not

why anyone should vote for her. host: don in henderson, nevada, a republican, what would you like to comment on about last night? caller: i have had a chance to watch both conventions. one of the biggest items i can gather from the conventions is elite thatpublican tried to get all of their people party andrepublican tried to get them to vote for their candidate did not succeed. the democrats did succeed. people withheir own debbie wasserman schultz, all negatives, ande put hillary clinton up as their candidate. i have an issue with hillary clinton.

ourg a veteran and one of boys -- a bunch of them killed in benghazi. and hillary clinton point-blank lied to the mother and said that the cause of her sons death was a video and she lied to the public. the liberal media does not want to talk about it. on the other hand, they are up in arms about donald trump yesterday talking about the russians. i would like to see the 33,000 e-mails that she took off of her computer. wherever it was. the three computers she had. host: will you be watching the convention tonight when she speaks? caller: yes.

i am an impartial person. thing, ill you one could never in -- and god forbid that hillary on her track record would ever, ever become our president. host: are you ready for the attention nevada will get this political season because it is a swing state? caller: pardon? host: are you ready for the attention nevada will get this political season because it is a swing state? host: -- caller: yes. host: up next, robert in waldorf, maryland, independent line. you are on the air. caller: good morning, sir. watch the level of the barber see that the media and democrat party puts forth is yesterday for example,

they insinuated a foreign government was interjecting themselves into our upcoming election process. yet none of them mentioned how barack obama and hillary clinton and the democrat party interjected themselves into benjamin netanyahu's recent election in israel, they never mention the amount of money mr. obama put into tried to --ermine benjamin not yahoo! benjamin then yahoo! getting reelected. if anyone had a reason to get payback is seems to me it might be the israelis. maybe they released these e-mails. we never discussed the e-mails -- the content of the e-mails only that they think the russians did it, why would the russians want to do that? they would help hillary clinton, the russians would not do it, it would be an ally who was looking to help the united states

undermine the communist agenda the democrat party and the media put forward on a daily basis. host: next call for las vegas, richard, a democrat. caller: good morning, how are you doing? you asked if we were ready in vegas for the impact? we are always ready in las vegas. amazed the democrats making an issue of the republicans holding out on the voting for the supreme court. the difference between the republicans and democrats. the republicans are not doing their job. and doing it on purpose. pointing their finger at us.

the other thing is i saw the speech by obama, i am amazed, i know i am a little partial, i was alive to see jack kennedy speak when i was young and an amazing orator. obama is a step above. he is amazing. his feelings come out. his timing. everything. i am amazed at the way he spoke to -- imo awake -- amazed at the way he speaks. host: maggie in pittsburgh, republican line. caller: i love c-span and think you do a great job, peter, i am partisan. host: thank you. comment?nt to make a caller: yes. saying and they are

they said last night, obama passes the baton to hillary clinton. there is one thing. he doesn't get to do that. in democracy it is the voters that will make the decision. host: i guess what we mean by that is the political baton, the standardbearer for the democrat party. caller: i can understand that part of it. what i was surprised at when i stepped back and thought about it, they are really pulling out all of the stops for hillary. all right, that is maggie in pittsburgh. james and laverne, tennessee, independent line. thank you for taking my call, i have watched both conventions, i look at the one last week, donald trump to lead

-- we are not going back to the 1950's. i don't care how many white men want their country back to the way it used to beat, we are not going back. they put people in boxcars and murder them. when he said mexicans raped and robbed and murdered -- host: this is from fred through twitter, obama's legacy is the obama doctrine of usa fades, islam rises, everything he has done is based on one or both principles. gary in indiana, democrat line, what is on your mind? to excuseu will have me if i sound pessimistic. or in my view realistic.

you.e to tell have gothe republicans us by the seat of our pants. they have too many resources in terms of their finances and social standing. and about anything else you can name. , i do as them taking over not see how we have been spared this long, they will have their day and they will have their way and there is nothing we can do about it. and thisa juggernaut is like a mouse taking on a grizzly bear. states of the republican union. that is what i believe, i hope to god i am wrong. they are running over us like it

is nothing. host: that is gary in indiana. russoew minutes, julia to of the philadelphia inquirer, but first read it in washington. poll shows times donald trump with the lead, 40% .4% to hillary clinton 44 1%, usa today, from iowa to pennsylvania, voters receptive to donald trump's ideas, president obama. in 2012 for both -- if all five went for donald trump, if the rest of the elect will map when unchanged come he would win. polling insists donald trump is competitive.

in the "wall street journal." policy, mrs.reign clinton supporters highlighting her experience in foreign policy and national security issues at a time of rising anxiety over terrorism could swing to her voters considering mr. trump. polls show voters have more confident in mrs. clinton as a world leader come in june a poll asked which candidate said which candidate will be better at for policy, 30% said mr. trump and 54% said mrs. clinton. >> a new poll every day and they say something different. >> a politic poll shows hillary clinton leading donald trump by double digits. >> new swing state polls show

hillary clinton's lead gone. a 10 point swing, donald trump is ahead of hillary clinton. in theld trump is league, no, they are tied, hillary is in the lead, gary johnson getting support. who is right? we took a poll to find out. we did not actually take a poll but we did the research and the most trustworthy source for judging polls is 538. use data in 2012 to correctly forecast which way every state would go. go "i amyou want to nate silver." an accuracy of every election poll as they happen. only six pollsters have an a plus rating and even their results very good he

underestimated the trap chances last year -- donald trump chances for last year. nationwide, poll response rates lower than ever because half the country does not have a landline and it is illegal to robo call a cell phone. >> when you get an illegal call, hang up the phone. >> the more closer to november we get, the more accurate the polls the get, so ignore them until right before the election, and until then the media will latch onto catch the polls because they make headlines. >> an interesting poll that young millennials prefer darth vader to donald trump. >> you can find a poll to fit any narrative they want but if you want to focus on individual polls, you are grasping at straws. donald trump: did you see the polls. the polls are doing very well. according to every poll. maybe that is why i am doing so well in the polls feared

i have one every single debate. i beat hillary in many polls. i want every single ball. -- poll. >> whether or not you trust polls, go to the polls in november. host: a picture frame set up on independence mall, you can pose in front of independence hall in philadelphia. we are live. what was the mood on the floor of the convention? guest: i think it was the most electric i have seen it. i have been on the floor for the whole convention so far. maybe not a surprise considering twoave had obama, biden,

very good speakers. people were emotional i think. a lot of delegates who it dawned on them they were seeing president obama speak for one of the last times on such a big stage as president. of -- we heard a lot about unity in this -- during this convention. i saw a lot of that. swelling pride around some of these figures. host: -- some of these speakers. host: the reaction about tim kaine? caller: pretty good -- guest: pretty good. i talked to delegates who said they seemed humble and kind, they did not say he was boring which we heard in the lead up. very welcoming

reaction. singswere some no tpp raised. a lot of sanders supporters were holding those. you do not hear many boos. supportere sanders called something out and tim kaine said feel the bern but do not get burned i donald trump. -- by donald trump. host: when you identify yourself of the philadelphia inquirer, are they eager to dr. you or reluctant -- to talk to you or reluctant? caller: you have to time it so you do not interrupt a speech but people are eager to talk. they want to share their story

and the state they come from and why they support whoever they support. on monday and tuesday i found that the sanders delegates were theyost visible because wear a lot of bernie stuff. igns and add sand ers. last night you saw more visible clinton -- the whole convention has been clinton pride but you saw the more clinton delegates getting more vocal and maybe feeling like she is the official nominee now and now is the time to do that. host: numbers on the screen if you would like to call in and talk. for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans.

202-748-8002 for independents. will hillary clinton running for a barack obama third term? caller: -- guest: an interesting question. people hope she will. a lot of what you heard from president obama last night was his legacy and the democrat legacy. another historic presidency following has. -- following his. herself with him as the obama candidate. last night, he spoke about how his experience with her in touch situations shows that she has what it takes to be president. is the most qualified candidate male or female, including him, including bill. that is the way the party is putting it out there.

politically it makes sense. host: it sounds like you will have a busy season in pennsylvania. guest: yes. it looks like pennsylvania could be in play for the first time in a while. a swing state but in the past it has not been. this week, donald trump was in scranton and the clinton campaign announced they will be doing a bus tour with joe biden through pennsylvania after the convention. the party may be leaving philadelphia but the politics is not leaving the state. host: let us see what our seeers have been -- let's what our viewers say. nevada. caller: a simple question. on the electoral college. i do not understand that. i have had people telling me how butorks, they are appointed

then people are voted on. state and democratic people are voted in to the college's and the electoral college is democrat, is it based on who wins the state? if it is a republican wins a blue state, if you get the electoral vote -- host: is this something you are familiar with? guest: the system is an electoral college system. the specifics of how we got there is something a lot of us question. maybe you would be better to take that one. host: a good segment we can do on the "washington journal." thank you for the idea so we get it from a solid source. california, ken, democrats line.

caller: how are you? host: go ahead, we are listening. caller: the dude from texas who said josie clinton had affluenza -- chelsea clinton had affluenza. donald trump was born with a silver spoon, never has he done an honest days work nor will he or his family. he praised the housing market crash because it allowed him to pick up people who lost their homes for cheap and sell them for a profit for himself. he praised great britain exit from the eu because it benefited him, i guess you call that including trump university ripping off people and honest days work, the donald trump has done a lot of them. we heard some of the yesterday in the speech by joe biden.

he said donald trump does not have a clue about the middle class. clue."wd chanted "not a one of a number of donald trump critique moments. host: it seems like a lot of the talk was about donald trump been was it surprising 2 -- about donald trump. you?t surprising to guest: a little bit, they cast themselves as the party of togetherness, hope, love, you saw a lot of that but almost every speech went on the attack on donald trump. becauseit makes sense if you look at voters and what they are saying, they are saying -- a lot of them are saying they're voting against donald trump. hillary does not have the best favorability rating. most powerful the

moments of the night was when president obama was speaking and he mentioned donald trump and he got boos. -- do not boo,do vote. although he did attack donald trump. host: are the democrats running a state record campaign or convention -- stay the course campaign or convention? guest: i have heard that when you look at tim kaine as the vice president nominee. the narrative has been the together party, the hopeful , everyone was holding hands literally as broadway stars saying -- saying what the world needs now is love sweet love. that is the image they're putting out. when you have barack obama holding the hand of clinton up,

that is the status quo. nebraska, a republican, jeff. caller: i was wondering if your -- wehad any information heard donald trump saying he had zero assets in russia. we know that paul manafort ran is ukraine leadership -- who leader. the russian the oil involved in industry in russia. heavily. host: what this affect your vote -- would this affect your vote? caller: it should affect everyones vote because if he is

involved, if he is not involved, he said he had zero assets but the people around him, his foreign advisor is one of the people on the board of one of the largest banks in russia. host: will this continue to be an issue, russia? guest: i think so. it was in the runoff and keeps coming up. i do not know much of the ins and outs. host: what about the dnc's e-mail issue and voicemail issue? guest: the timing of that when you saw the convention start, that news story raking -- breaking look detrimental to the message that the party wanted to send. fire of a lot of the sanders supporters and

delegate. monday, and tuesday for that matter, you really saw a lot of the delegates -- some of them walked out. i was in the press tent, they and a into their -- there lot of them said the wikileaks situation proved everything we have been saying. last night, there was not an empty seat in the arena. either all of those delegates came back or other folks took their seats or a little bit of both. i do not think it is the end of the russia conversation or the e-mails. host: when will you be going to the wells fargo center today? caller: as a reporter in philadelphia -- guest: as a philadelphia, i

report on how the city is responding to the huge party in town and what goes on inside the convention arena. depend on how calm things are outside in some of the spaces where we have seen protests. maybe around 6:00. host: give us a sense of what is going on in the city, the will that the wells fargo's center is four mile south. beautiful downtown, a lot going on? .uest: it has been buzzing a political festival that a lot of delegates have been going to. at the same time, you have free speech demonstrations on independence mall, in front of city hall, the arena is in south philadelphia, separated from the heart of the city but a lot of the marches have started at city hall and ended outside of the convention center.

seen everything from a lot of bernie sanders protests, clean energy, marijuana legalization, black lives matter protests on tuesday. it is exciting to see the birthplace of democracy buzzing with all sorts of rallies. host: democracy. cookeville, tennessee, independent line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i wish you would give me a little bit of time to link up some information. i will do it as quick as i can. -- one week before barack obama took office the first time, he sat down with the boardgton post editorial and you can look this up, i wish

you would look this up, please. he said in front of that board that he would cut social security and medicare guaranteed. he will cut it. also, bill clinton, newt gingrich, and her skin bowles -- bowles had a plan when clinton was in the white house to cut and privatize social security. stop to thatky because he fell out of political power. and bill clinton are blood brothers. they love each other. mr. peterson said that he would pledge -- give up half his wealth, he is a hedge funder, multibillionaire, he said he would give up half his wealth to

privatize social security. that are you in favor of or against that? caller: against it. host: we got your point. our economic issues, social security, it and other issues playing at all this week? guest: i think so. you see the signs circulating around the convention. speakers, ifas the you had to write a headline, the theme of the democratic convention, what would that headline read? guest: hope and togetherness. of moreeen a lot message and rhetoric than specific platforms or policies

that tends to be the situation. i think they are trying to sell party,is is a united this is the experienced candidate. and you saw some of that last night in terms of taking donald trump as a dangerously inexperienced candidate. nting donald trump as a dangerously inexperienced candidate. host: most people do not trust hillary clinton yet there was a lot of talk about trusting hillary clinton last night. guest: people last night who said we are united against donald trump. my heart is with sanders but i am voting for hillary. one of her greatest assets in this convention are those people who can speak so eloquently and

so strongly about -- "i trust her and have seen her do this." obama saying, " you do not know what it is like until you have been in that room and she has been in that room." a message her surrogates wanted to get across. host: atlanta, a democrat, john. caller: can you hear me? host: we are listening. caller: thank you for doing the show, thank you to the washington journal and thank you for all of your strength julia and continuing to do what you do. wake up, america. this is the way it works. now is the time you see the greatest difference between the republicans and democrats.

you will findmary out that there is not that much of a difference. we all love america and we will do things in different ways but the bottom line is that we need some issues addressed. the question is whether donald trump has the capacity to address the issues and the answer is he does not. he will not start looking at i amding to the veterans, a 20 year retired army veteran, it-year retired irs veteran, may social security retired individual of this country that has a system that can take care of me and my family. even though we are not devoting the resources that we need to the troops that were not deployed but still have ptsd after sending a brigade of soldiers over and getting a black bag full of brigade of soldiers back. and having to send more soldiers behind them and the fact that

there is no credit given the way that it should be given to obama for what he has done. remember, we were in such a deep hole that you had to fill the whole just to get level before you started to grow any further. you cannot grow -- host: what would your reaction be if donald trump got elected? caller: i would pray. i believe this country would turn into something that historically has never been seen before. this is the youngest country on the planet. this is the youngest country on the planet. host: thank you, sir. guest: i think you sound like one of the delegates i have talked to inside the convention hall. who night, you saw people either considered running against clinton, vice president

biden for or michael bloomberg who we are saying, we need to come together to defeat trump. voteberg even said do not out of party loyalty, vote out of love of country. bitingsome of the most words against donald trump, he said elect a saying, competent person. competent person. host: you can read her stories at philly.com. thank you for being here and good look on the final day of the democratic convention. -- good luck on the final day of the democratic convention. we will open the phones, what does hillary clinton mean for you>? we have divided the lines differently, by age. 202-748-8000.

202-748-8001 50, . 202-748-8002 is the number. we are dividing the lines by age , what does hillary clinton stand for for you? we will take calls after news of a -- news update. >> tv ratings out for the second night of the dnc when bill clinton spoke, variety with the story that the dnc did the rnc by nearly 5 million viewers when you compare ninth two for them and night two for the democrats. last night on the convention

floor, a report that says leon panetta was giving a standard speech in support of hillary clinton when the crowd you rubbed it chance of "no more war." interrupting you cannot several times before he finished his speech. our viewers the number he served as a defense -- remember he served as the defense secretary when hillary clinton was secretary of state. take a look at last night's speech by leon panetta and those interruptions. [video clip] s troopstta: trump ask torture, war crimes, and he praises dictators from saddam hussein to vladimir putin.

today -- greta: leon panetta, the former cia director, critical of donald trump's comments about russia getting involved in american politics. finally, the story out of cleveland -- here is the headline. a cleveland man was shot monday at an east side bar during a heated political discussion. this by a local reporter in cleveland. >> paul jones is in stable condition, recovering from a bullet he says he got for being a trump supporter. >> what was said, i have no idea. says her family always

discussed politics, everyone with their own opinion, but her son's opinion might have landed him in the hospital. it turned violent. >> it is a day where if you don't think like they do, they are ready to cause problems. at60-year-old paul jones was his local bar. jones, the vietnam war veteran, happens to be a staunch donald trump supporter. donald trump brought out a lot of things to people, opened their eyes to see who they wanted to vote for. that is all i am saying. >> but another man at the bar didn't like what he heard, or liked trump. bed, theis hospital man told me the man walked outside of the bar, went to his car, and came back with his gun. he shot jones in the leg and

walked out. the debate, over, but the healing just beginning. >> i am quite sure you have a lot of people that have their opinion, but that doesn't say you should hurt somebody because you have your own opinion. >> jones was shot in the fire and is expected to make a full recovery. still -- police are searching for the shooter to be charged with felonious assault. host: we are back live in philadelphia. what does hillary clinton stand for for you? we want to hear your voice, dividing your phone lines by age 202-7 48-8000. 30-50, 202-748, 8001. if you are over 50 years old, 202-748-8002. --

"mrs.opinion piece -- clinton will have to sway voters from across the political spectrum. the, huge portions of electorate are appalled by the prospect of her opponent winning the presidency, which is to her -- host: edmund.

the mona, california. first of all, how old are you, and what does hillary clinton mean to you? caller: hi, good morning. i am 29 years old right now. the first election i voted in was in 2008 4 barack obama. as far as hillary clinton goes, i would have to say that frankly she both represents the status quote in that she is a clinton, what she also represents a third term for a barack obama, who i did vote for twice. in a sense, she is moving in the right direction, and also, kind of, stagnant, in terms of where i want to see the country move. i do believe she tends to be more conservative than obama on a lot of issues. ima bernie supporter originally who does -- i am a bernie supporter originally who does plan to vote for hillary in the fall, but that said she

represents things i don't like about establishment politics, but, again, it is her or trunk, and it is pick your poison. i will take the one that i think will continue the right policies. a.st: that is edmund in pomon what do you do? caller: i'm currently a student. host: thank you for calling in. rebecca, abilene, texas. if you could, give us your age, and then tell us what you think hillary clinton stands for. caller: hi. i am 58 years old, and i have always worked. and i know that this country is for the working middle class, and i know she will be there for us. she will be there for the veterans, and i know she will not shut down the government like the republicans did -- and

i know she will also work on the health care, which we all worry about because i know prescriptions, doctors, everything else is so expensive for a lot of us, and i know it needs to be fixed. i just feel like she is the one. i cannot wait to see trump's face when he loses to hillary. now, rebecca, when you say you know she will be there for the working middle class, specifically what does that mean? what would you like to see done? caller: i just know that she cares for us people that work. i know that she will try to create jobs and bring jobs back to us, like there were back when clinton was in office. when clinton was in office, there were so many jobs. i remember people were on the welfare and they were getting off of the welfare, because there were so many jobs out there. especially in arkansas.

i remember watching on tv how they were so happy to have jobs. there were even people from companies that would come to pick them up in front of the house just to go work. they were happy to be working. they did not want to be on medicaid, medicare, food stamps, and everything else, because they wanted to work, and that is exactly what we need -- we need to go back to the years when we had jobs, the stock market was good, there was a surplus of money, and everybody was doing good. everybody made money at that time. host: that is rebecca in abilene, texas. next, steve in florida. give us your age and tell us what you think hillary clinton stands for. caller: good morning. i am 49 years old. i don't know what she stands for. i will be up front with you off the bed. i am very conservative, but i also understand republicans and

democrats. i'm a business person. i work two jobs. i young my own business, i am self-employed, and i'm a manager at a hardware store part-time. i can't understand what she stands for, and i can't understand that what people call you in and say she is behind people, she is with god, bringing a surplus back, and i listened to it last night. like i said, i am conservative. i did not hear any substance in there. i don't know how to say this to anybody -- we used to have a 40-hour work week in this country. 35e new norm is 32 hours to hours, sometimes 28 hours. this has become the new norm. i watched people chant and agree with this woman. i do not agree with trump on everything, but i listen to these people, they are in dreamland. you cannot pay for these projects.

another problem, she has a vice president that is a blue dog democrat. host: that is steve in florida. blake cullen from charleston, south carolina. blake, what does hillary clinton stand for in your view, and how old are you? ander: i am 26 years old, to me she stands for corruption, collusion, and anything that is wrong with this country. everything they are pushing is causing a further divide, and another note -- how in the world does somebody make it this far when you are being investigated by the fbi? how does that happen? i don't understand. i don't understand how people are connecting with her. it doesn't make any sense to me. i just hope a lot of the burning swing voters -- bernie swing voters can align themselves with someone who is not for this huge government, and someone who

actually cares about people. i am not saying it is trump, but i insane i do not know how you can identify with an absolute corrupt politician, a career politician at that. blake, i apologize for being confused -- will you be supporting donald trump in november or not? caller: i will. i will. host: what is it about him? is it because he is not hillary clinton? caller: i think we knew someone that is not a career politician. if you look at his thoughts on politics -- people try to pull out clips and say he has been different, but he has been fairly consistent. people think he is a trigger happy guy. i do not think he is. we're not going to have a cabinet full of donald trumps. i expect him, as a businessman and leader, to take a great cabinet, to surround himself with people that are knowledgeable.

people are picking on him because he might not go into specifics, but that is not his job. the leader is to lead the country, not to be a dictator, and that is what screens to me from hillary clinton. i just see her -- it is almost picturesque -- like a dictator from "hunger games" or something. sherry innext call is florida. sherry is in the 30 to 50 age group. what does hillary clinton stand for? caller: you didn't ask my age -- did somebody pay you not to? host: you go right ahead and tell us. caller: i am 49. hillary terrifies me. she absolutely terrifies me. to switches her position serve her purpose and get the people on her site. a couple of -- her side. a couple of callers before me --

a lady was talking about when bill clinton was president, and everybody got back to work and got off of welfare. i don't remember what that but congressalled, right now has a bill that is very similar to that that they passrying to get past -- ed. it is welfare to work, or something like that -- just like billy to bill clinton. i had panics -- just like bill clinton. i had panic attacks last night. everyone apparently has forgotten her illegal e-mail server that put our national security at risk.

investigated right now -- her clinton foundation -- i have done so much research during this season because there is a lot at stake. we have the supreme court. there are a lot of seats up for grabs in the senate and stuff. scarys a very, very decision, and everybody needs to educate themselves. the people that are calling in for hillary -- and i am independent. i have always voted my entire voting age independent -- whom are i feel -- whomever i feel is going to best serve my interest. host: sherry, what you do in florida? caller: i am now disabled. i am disabled. i used to be a nurse. host: thank you, ma'am. jackie in brooklyn, new york, on

our 50 and older line. hi, jackie, you are on the air. go ahead. caller: hi. i do believe in hillary. the americanin dream. i think she has been with the people. she has been there. she has seen it. she knows how it runs. i am not really sure if she is going to be doing it alone -- she is not going to be doing it alone. people forget that we have to vote in other people. what i heard on -- what i heard trump say, and this is what scares me the most, is that he would love to have the power to sok into people's computers they can find out the information. that is what scares me. i don't know what is going on in this country, but we have to vote for somebody. hillary has the experience. she has been in the white house. she has been all over.

i'm in, i am really, at this am, really,sed -- i at this point, confused of where and how we are going to get out of this situation. to trump in 1980 when he bought the building and everybody lost their job. therefore, i don't really trust the man. i am -- sort of, i am disabled as well, just like the other person that called in, and i am caught between the crac ks, and i want to know what they are going to do for these people that are disabled. host: that is jackie in brooklyn. thank you for participating this morning. sierra, germantown, wisconsin.

18 to 29-year-old range. caller: hi. host: go ahead and make your comment. caller: i think when people look feel we do noty know, but growing up, knowing hillary clinton's husband, and what his belief and valuess were, it was a different outcome. i agree with a lot of people watching. i feel like hillary would better the country versus trump. i do not agree with trump on his decisions on how is planning to change everything. i just basically feel like hillary clinton has the opportunity to make us better versus trump. i just did not feel like he has what it takes to be our president. i just feel like hillary will be a better value to, you know, the

country. you know, i just feel like she has what it takes to be that person we need. she is a women, at -- woman, and some people say women cannot take over, but i feel she is the perfect representative for this president elect. host: what are some of the issues that are important to you, and what you do up there question like -- there? deli lead now, i am a . trump, i do not feel like he will help the people. bring unity back together. i feel it will be corrupt if trump comes into the office. i do not feel like he will give us a chance to shine. i feel like hillary will give us the chance that we need. i just feel like trump would end

it all. i feel like the whole world would go corrupt if he goes into office. i do not feel he is a great candidate at all. int: that is tierra germantown, wisconsin, and greta is in washington, d.c., looking at the news. greta: if our viewers missed president obama's speech, you can go to c-span.org and watch it in its entirety. better yet, follow c-span on twitter, and go to our youtube page and watch all the president obama's speeches -- the one he gave in 2004, 2008, and the one that he gave last night at the democratic national convention. cameron joseph tweeted out last night that the democrats in the crowd became silent just now, he said, for the first time, as the president obama video ticked

through recent gun violence. it is the first time, he said, in three days. the national politics editor for "the wall street journal" tweeted this out -- the reaction of the crowd when president obama came out for his speech. ♪ [applause] greta: than this from an activist on immigration issues who spoke at the convention earlier this week. she said last night she was sitting with 42 while listening

and daneak about 45, from cnn said the loudest reaction to tim kaine was his impersonation of donald trump saying "believe leave me" after campaign promises, -- believe me promises, andgn the national correspondent for "the washington post" reported these were the science being handed out during tim kaine's speech in spanish. in english, it means together we can. and delegate said that many of notbernie delegates did stand or clap for senator kaine -- not one bit, he said. gregory mccaffery, a supporter of tim kaine. kaine's twitter

-- i took a year off from moscow fromlunteer in honduras -- law school to volunteer in honduras. and we have to make a connection -- he carries not three harmonicas, but for harmonicas. outside, these pictures were put together of police lining up behind hundreds at the gate of the democratic convention. there were protests taking place outside of the convention floor last night as the speakers went to the podium. you heard from the vice president, joe biden, the president himself, and as we told you, senator tim kaine all speaking last night. you can find all of those speeches on c-span.org. host: that is a lot of harmonicas, greater bronner.

we are live in philadelphia. a lot of television stations and networks have set up outside of independence hall -- this is a live picture of downtown, the independence mall area of philadelphia. you will see nbc and cnbc set up there as well. we are asking the question, what is hillary clinton stand for for you. we're taking your calls on that issue. has today" this morning written their opinion piece, "the hillary speech we would like to hear." here is a portion of it. "i am fully aware many of you have concerns about me.

this is from "usa today" their view of what hillary clinton's speech to be -- should be tonight. ray in hollywood, florida, on the 50 and older line. what is hillary clinton stand for to you? caller: hillary, first, last, and always. i have been watching her career since she was working for the watergate committee where she got fired for lying and unethical behavior. ok? she has not changed at all. i also want to talk to you about what trump said yesterday. people don't understand it is sarcasm. pieces in somen fbi evidence locker. it cannot be hacked now,

however, due to the lack of security -- and i know about computer security -- it probably has been hacked by several countries, and they have those e-mails. host: all right, that is a little bit from ray in hollywood, florida. tiffany, antioch, tennessee, on our 18 to 20 -- 29-year-old line. tiffany, what is hillary clinton stand for for you? opinion, i think hillary clinton stance on a lot of the issues we are needing to move the needle on in north america. i work in social services. after the warars on poverty began, and looking at where we are as a nation, the things she speaks of, such as education reform, criminal justice reform, working for those who don't have a voice here in this country, i feel she

is the best person for the job. platform progressive will continue to move or build upon the obama administration. what we don't want to do is go backwards, and while there are a lot of opportunities for improvement here in america, we notot acknowledge all -- not acknowledge all the progress that has been made to date. host: give us a specific issue you would like to see hillary clinton address as president? caller: i would like to see her get into criminal justice reform. i feel that group, the population is "a throwaway" population, and they can continue so much to society. we need to invest in our rehabilitation program and our reentry program so that when people who happen to be incarcerated under discriminated laws and disparities or

sentencing practices -- i would like to see her go ahead and push for the smart sentencing act, which would help to build upon the fair sentencing act. i think that is a population that has been forgot and. there are a lot of children and families waiting on fathers and mothers to come home, and once they get out, they cannot become active citizens to society, and therefore they become liabilities, and we blame them, though we have not given them the opportunity to come back and be productive citizens. host: that is tiffany in antioch, tennessee, and keith is in madison wisconsin, 50 and older line. keith, what does hillary clinton mean, or stand for for you question my caller: she's --you? caller: she stands for top-down classwork, militarism, corruption, lying, cheating, stealing -- just about everything you wouldn't want in a politician.

let me remind people, she voted for the invasion of iraq, preceded by a high-tech mechanized slaughter, followed by many years of occupation. not every politician -- and even republicans, some republicans like the senator olympia snowe from maine, she did not vote for the war. she got the same intelligence. why did she vote against it and hillary clinton voted for it? that is something people need to be asking themselves. now, i don't support trump, but i definitely don't support clinton either. host: who do you support at this point? caller: well, i would support either gary johnson or joel stein. i would encourage everyone to look at third-party candidates. i have a deep dislike for both candidates. it is disgusting. i am ashamed to live in this country, actually. ,ost: that is keith in medicine

wisconsin -- madison, wisconsin. greta, what you have for us? greta: earlier there was a conflict that happened outside of the wells fargo center. on the first night of the democratic national convention, members of the coalition called spare ride fairly gathered to protest the philadelphia delegation as its -- it returned from his days preceding. a $70 billion app, writers get the scrap, they shouted. they are angry with local officials and the dnc, the democratic , greta: and i want to show you this moment from the convention floor -- a side you do not often see of representative john lewis florida -- take a look at

them getting groovy while they are waiting for president obama's speech. ♪ host: and the liberty bellhost: is on display on independence mall right outside of independence hall, right outside the national constitution center. photojournalist ben sorenson is out there with a c-span camera, and that is a live picture of the liberty bell. back to your calls -- what does hillary clinton stand for to you -- cliff, flint, michigan, 50 and older line. caller: hi. well, i think hillary clinton stands for everything that has made america great and that will

keep america great into the future. all of these callers that are calling in that are supporting donald trump need to do some actual research for themselves and find out, for example, this individual is being sued right running and ripping up people for $30 million in what was called the trump baja towers project. another $20 million for trump university, yet he calls hillary clinton crooked. if you were to use an ounce of common sense, donald trump has factories in mexico, but the --, and china, which makes products for him -- bangladesh and china, which makes radix for him. if he cared about america, they would be in the united states making the same product because donald trump alone controls where they are located at. how can you make america great,

when you make, as a businessman, decisions to have sweatshop labor overseas so you can make the maximum profit rather than putting america first and creating jobs right here? secondarily -- host: all right, that is cliffy and flint, michigan. we will leave your comments there. we have several more guests, several more phone segments coming up this morning on "the washington journal," but up next we will talk to the chair of the democratic -- texas democratic party, and a young lady that is a dreamer. we will talk about immigration and politics. that is one of the things we about, butem yesterday john mcardle caught up with the director of the house band at the wells fargo center. right of the platform is the setup for the ricky minor band. how does one become the band for the dnc?

: i have been in the business for a long time, and there are a lot of guys, and i got the call -- a lot of guys that can do this kind of work and play good music. john: how is his work different than some of the other gigs that you do? shows,some of the other if you are doing the oscars, they are more generic and written for that moment, and you, kind of, right for whoever is, but here, the presenters we do not always know when we are really told until right before. it has to be confidential, so the producers want a lot of energy. we just pick some great songs from america's songbook. what is a day like for you at the dnc? at 7:30 a.m.rt call, and finish at about 11:30

p.m., 12, midnight. direct the day, it is run-throughs, for her in for it all. john: do you write original music for this? ricky: we have some original know they haves music that they want to be played on. they will say this person wants this song, and we will do it. and we have the ricky minor band set up over your right shoulder. take us to the prospect -- process of getting this equipment here and getting through security. john: we started rehearsal in adelaide, we get here, and the equivalent is shipped ahead of time so we can go through security. mainly, it is the security getting you -- like, this morning, there are so many checkpoints you have to go through. it is just great. the feeling here is just insane -- the energy here.

i have watched the dnc many times, and it is nothing like being here. john: is this the biggest show you have played? rickey: the biggest show in philadelphia, or in the world? john: in all of your shows. rickey: they are all really big -- it is exciting. it is one of the most exciting political things that happened in our country, and to be part of that in any small way is really big. john: how did you get into becoming a band leader? rickey: i was playing bass and i met this girl who was trying to get a record deal named whitney houston. she was 18, and i was 22, and that is how i got my start. i have been playing bass forever. john: how long has the band then around? we wentsince that time, on and did a few things, but

since 1999, we went out and started doing more television. john: the biggest fear as the bandleader? rickey: the biggest fear is i call the right tune for the right speaker. john: give us an example. rickey: i cannot play "tell her about it" for a guy, and some of those things. you want to make sure the tempo is right, and sometimes the song -- because we're not singing the songs, it is just a music. it is not as important, the content of the lyrics, it is just about the energy of the song, for the most part. john: and the energy of the crowd as well? rickey: you want to keep the crowd going. you want to play them on something that has energy. the crowd is roaring. every time someone he comes up, everyone excited about what they have to say. john: what about when there is oing. what is your job one that is happening? rickey: that is easy, play

louder. i can turn it up to 12. john: did you do that question mark -- do that this week? rickey: we do not hear it as much as somebody would hear it on television, i guess. clinton accepting the nomination thursday -- what you plan to play? rickey: i would tell you, but i have to kill you. i can do that. i like you too much. john: where can the viewers find you? all over the place. twitter, facebook, instagram. john: appreciate it. rickey mina, who -- minor, directed the "tonight show band" for years, will be performing her you can see the

setup in the wells fargo center interior. back here on our site at the national constitution center, we are joined by belen sisa. ms. sisa, what are you doing here in philadelphia --where are you from? guest: i am from arizona. i'm here with the arizona delegation as a page, here with the senior staff, and getting my first experience here in philadelphia with the democratic process. host: how did you get that assignment? working with the bernie sanders campaign about six months ago and i have been active in the immigrant rights community. i got my first expansion politics working on the campaign, and once i got back, they thought i would be perfect to come join them and finish this off until the very end. clintonw that hillary is the nominee, will you be supporting her? guest: yes.

this is the way the election turned out, my candidate did not win, that i know what is at stake, and for us this will be the best decision for our community. will you vote for her in november? guest: i cannot vote for her because i am undocumented. i'm really counted -- counting on the people i worked with in the bernie campaign, my friends, other people that are part of my family to represent me by casting that ballot for me. i cannot vote, but i have made sure that other people went out to vote, so i hope that in november people will go out, and they will fill those ballots for us. host: tell us your story. guest: i came from one of said is, argentina, came to arizona when i was 16 years old. i grew up in a small, conservative town in arizona, florence, arizona. it was about one mile away from

the immigrant detention center. it was a very hard place to, you know, the undocumented. people didn't really understand it. they hadn't seen that before. so, i whispered much, living a double -- i was pretty much living a double life, trying to juggle, not letting people know my real immigration status, and trying to live the life of a normal teenager. when i graduated high school is when i came out to everyone, and it was a difficult thing. there were people no longer were my friends. i stopped talking to me, but it empowered me. -- they stopped talking to me, but it empowered me, and meeting other people is what brought me to who i am today. i thought for driver's licenses once deferred action was announced by president obama. i organized -- dreamers once deferred action was announced by president obama.

i organized marches at arizona state university. i have fought alongside many peers to stop deportation and protest sheriff joe arpaio. that is what ultimately has made me into the person that i am today, but if i would not have been brave and if i would not have said this is who i yam, and i will continue to fight for people that are in the same situation for me. parents, across the border -- did they overstay --how did they get here? guest: we came here with workers visas. host: with the intention of over-staying question mark -- staying? with the intention of seeing what it was like, and ultimately we ended up overstaying. host: what was the lifelike -- what did your parents tell you to say? guest: my parents told me to be safe, and if somebody asked me about my drivers license or not

getting my first job, not applying for college, just to try to make up some excuse, like i don't have time, or i am already doing it -- i already applied for college. waking upat was my moment, when i went to my counselor in high school. i told him. he was the first person. i am in undocumented student. what can i do to continue my education, and he did not know? he absolutely did not know. he said we do not have the resources. this is the first time we have had this type of situation. so, for me, as a 17, 18-year-old, it was pretty heartbreaking, especially when you are trying to fit in as a young person, or trying to figure out what you are going to do for your future. , who islberto hinojosa chairman of the texas democratic story common?n's

is.t: yes, it when you hear that story it breaks your heart that we have so many young people all across america that are struggling with the fact that in every sense of the word this lovely young lady is an american. she doesn't even have an accent when she speaks english, and some of them do have accents, but if you want to see what dreamers are about, belen is a perfect example. somebody that came here at a very young age. she didn't come on her own. she was brought here by her parents who are looking for a better life. she has been raised with american values. our country and the greatness of our country and

the democracy we all live in. she plays by the rules. she is going to school. she is going to be a leader in her community, in our country, eventually. you can see that in her eyes -- the enthusiasm for the political system that she is working under today, and it makes no sense, no sense whatsoever, that we don't, as a country, take the necessary action through comprehensive immigration reform that we -- it makes no sense that we don't provide her the legal status to be able to do what she needs to do to succeed in america, because when she succeeds, we will all be better. this is what has made america so great. , who come like belen here, looking for a better life, it's a not only do i want to

have a better life for myself, but i promise you if i -- if you give me this better life, i will give it all back to america and help make america even greater than what it is today. we have 12 main undocumented immigrants in our country or more who live in this status -- million undocumented immigrants in our country or more who live in the status, who come to america, not as donald trump says, to commit crimes, but look for a better life. they come to america because they cannot live where they live for economic reasons or reasons of violence and we have many, many children that have come from honduras. honduras is the murder capital of the world. children are getting killed their everyday. i'm a parent. i have children. i cannot even conceptualize putting my children through a situation where any day they are out on the street they will be murdered. they bring them over here because they want them to live.

so, when they come over here, it is for those reasons -- for economic reasons, for reasons of survival, and they come to work. they obtain public benefits at the lower -- lowest percentage that any other person in the united states. they have the lowest crime rate of any other group of people in the united states because they don't want to commit crimes. ?hey are here to work, you know when they are asked to serve, those that are able to serve in our military, they are the first to go and defend our nation. they are good patriots. although they are not united states citizens -- this woman sandersn bernie campaign, and did an outstanding job, but she cannot vote for him because of the situation she was placed in as a child. we have to fix that. barack obama, our president, did that when he allowed dreamers to

remain in this country, but we need to make this into the law of this country. even a majority of united states senators decided to do something about this, and other people who have this anti-immigrant attitude in the united states senate and the house have blocked any effort, any attempt to change the legal status of these 12 million immigrants, and it is wrong. --t: well, judge, hinojosa well judge hinojosa, what would you say to jamil shaw's, whose son was killed by an illegal or undocumented immigrant? what would you say to him? guest: i feel bad for anyone that is a victim of violence. that is something that is a horrible thing for any family to experience, but that does not represent the great, great, great majority of immigrants that are in this country. if you go out to any part of

this country and you look at the people that are working and paving parking lots, working on roofs of houses, in the fields, doing all the hard work in restaurants as waiters, so on and so forth, that is what it's represented by immigrants and undocumented immigrants. that is what they bring to america -- these few aberrations of people who commit crimes are not at all representative of what undocumented immigrants are about in our nation. so, people can use those little stories to try to drum up here and hate, but that is not what but that isnd hate, not what we are all about. i can give you an example of many different kinds of ethnic groups were people who are here legally, or they are u.s. citizens, christians, or whatever religion that commit crimes, and you cannot paint the picture that everybody who is

associated with that individual is bad. that is not what we are all about in america. that is the only thing i can tell you about that. host: last week when we were in cleveland, maricopa arizona county sheriff joe arpaio was on the program, and you're the little bit of what he had to say, and belen, i would like to get your response. [video clip] sheriff arpaio: he brought this up, and a lot of people were not happy -- talking about the wall, illegal immigration, and mexico, and if it wasn't for that, nobody would be talking about it now. i have to thank him for that. he pretty well knows what is going on because now we continue to have the legal immigration power. the border -- problem. the border is a problem. we have terrorism now. people are shooting cops. i can go on and on. compleximmigration is a

problem. it is not an easy one to solve. host: as you can see, sheriff arpaio was talking about building a wall, the legal immigration problem, what is your response to him? guest: i think my response to him is that neither him nor donald trump know what is going on. they do not know the type of people that live in this country, the type of people that live in his very own state. if you look at the reins he has conducted, -- grades he has conducted, they are in working places. those are not criminals. those are people here doing hard work. those values and characteristics that he has been explaining do not represent me or any of the people that he has been racially profiling and criminalizing, and putting in his jails at all. he legally stop you right now in arizona and arrest you? if he wanted to he would probably find a reason.

host: could he do that legally, judge? no, right now she has legal status as a dreamer, and what our president did and i love him for doing this, it is say these dreamers will be able to go to school, have the opportunities that host: what about her father -- could he be stopped at this point? guest: it depends how the law is interpreted in that circuit, and i know that part of the law -- host: the circuit matters? guest: well, yeah, because that part of the law that allows her parents to remain here legally was thrown out by a district judge in my hometown of brownsville, and the fifth circuit of appeals confirmed it. the supreme court, on a 4-4 vote wasn't able to take action on that. that is why this election is so critical. hillary clinton will be able to

appoint the fifth vote on the supreme court that will make decisions with respect to these laws, and i think she will appoint someone that will affirm what every single president has done when they have looked at immigration issues in the history of the united states. they have the legal power to do this. the decision that was made by the district judge, i believe, who i know and is a nice man -- the decision that he made, i believe, was wrong. the fifth circuit is not at all representative of any circuit court of appeals in the country. it is the most right wing appellate court in the country. host: gilberto hinojosa is a long time judge and lawyer from brownsville, texas, and the chair of the democratic -- texas democratic national party. or from eras aging -- is a dreamer from arizona with the arizona delegation, acting as a page.

let's take a call. amos, go ahead. guest: how are you -- caller: how are you? first of all, america needs to wake up. this is not about an issue that is personal. we are in a critical situation as a country. is lives and our countries put up for collateral, and we need to come together and stop bickering about issues that we have to deal with in house after we secure our commander-in-chief. right now it is about who would do the best job as a commander-in-chief to make sure in the landabitants of america is secure. so, we need to come together in unity. host: so, when you say the land needs to be secured, with reference to immigration, what

are you saying exactly? caller: this is not my opinion -- this is not about immigration or any nationality of an individual. this is about -- you know, america is the best country that a person could live in. we have problems, but we will solve those problems. right now, we need, as a country, to select the best individual who is going to guide this country through safe waters, and anybody can be in peace, happiness and -- host: who is that best candidate in your view? caller: right now, the clinton administration, if you don't know, with the only administration that had this country in surplus status, so now -- host: all right, i think we lost you. thanks for calling in. let's hear from david in piedmont, oklahoma, independent line. david, you are on the air. caller: thank you, sir.

and your name is? host: my name is peter. caller: peter, you are a c-span? host: i am with c-span, that is correct. caller: your specialty is a commentator on this program, " the washington journal." it, is the way i understand is that correct? host: is this the first time you have watched this question mark --watched us? caller: i have been watching for six months. title was andyour i was try and identify your job and title. let's move on. caller: yes, sir. your questionsk or make your statement or we will move on. tell you what, randall,

washington, d.c.. i'm not sure what he was going for that. we will listen to randall in washington, d.c., on our democrat line. you are on c-span right now. make your comment. we are all listening. caller: here is my comment. our cities have, sort of, then devastated -- been devastated with the out-movement of jobs. so, you have african-americans -- some of them chose to sell drugs get the fullness of the law that was -- applied to them for the crimes that they committed. areis it then when people committing crime, coming into the country illegally, that the laws have to be reform instead of enforced? , becausenderstand that the system doesn't seem to be broken except for the fact of economics, whereas people have turned a blind eye to undermine

the market value of labor in america by flooding the market with surplus labor, driving down the cost of living. , why don't youa address that question from that gentleman? -- from that gentleman? you say understand what about feeling threatened, but what i think is we are looking at the wrong enemy here. when you are talking about bringing down the quality of work or work is not being paid what they are supposed to, you are talking about having immigrants brought here by corporations, businesses to exploit them. people don't come here to be exploited. people come here to work. so, we should be demanding that from our businesses, our corporations, instead of taking up against people who are just here like we were here in the very beginning of this nation to fulfill our dreams and have a better life.

host: mr. chairman, go ahead. guest: and let me tell you, two wrongs don't make a right or do we all agree a lot of the drug laws in this country today have been used to establish this whole concept of mass .ncarceration a large number of hispanics are being locked up on minor drug crimes, and that is wrong. i agree with you that that is wrong, belen but like says -- says, if these workers are being exploited here, the blame should be placed on those companies that are exploiting them. they came to work. they do that job in the hot sun. they are not here to take anybody's jobs. they are here to survive, making life for the family, and to become americans. so, i just think that we need to focus the blame on these kinds of issues -- on the real

culprit, and that is a lot of corporate greed that you have out there that abuse workers such as this, and legal workers created somehave of these problems that you have today. what we need to do is encourage more, you know, involvement of organized labor to organize some of these workers. we have seen this in the restaurant industry, where some other like seiu, or unions out there, have organized undocumented workers, and have increased their wages substantially, and have made for better employees for those corporations who have worked with a unions where you have had outstanding employees work in there to provide better service to their customers. so, you can turn this thing around and make it good. host: [captioning performed by the

national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] caller: good morning. you said something earlier about how wrong it was that we should let the illegal immigrants flow. americans isrks us our forefathers had to go ofough all kinds documentation and prove they could make a living and take care of themselves when they came to this country. you want to let everybody in and you want us to feel sorry for them because they want a better life. they come to america to get this better life. this is really at the core of what irks us. why doesn't mexico -- they are building factories and they have taken so many of our jobs. somethingt mexico do

about mexico? you want them to come here and change our laws -- change the mexican laws. host: we got the point, would you like to address that? a country ofs immigrants. a lot of the forefathers of a lot of the people that live in this country today did not come into this country following these procedures you talk about. about havingking open borders and allowing people to come in no matter what. part of comprehensive immigration reform talks about enforcing the immigration laws of this country to ensure that we have a strong border, not a wall, by the way. we are talkingt about. we are talking about the millions of undocumented immigrants that are already here and have lived here and have made a life here and have raise

their children here and have gone and taken their children to school here and have sent their kids to go fight for our nation. , they shouldtatus have a path to citizenship. these are people that would be great citizens for our country. what mexico does or doesn't do whatever south american countries do or don't do is not something we can control. what brings people here from already they deep are experiencing down there, the unemployment they have, their inability to feed their families. there is nothing we can do about that. those folks will come over here because they want to live a better life. they have no other choice. we are saying that when they are live in the valley and

we live on the border. i live seven blocks from the international bridge. is.'s where my house i have a border patrol agent going by my house every five minutes either in a vehicle or on a bicycle. you drive down the military highway which is a road next to the border. vehicle an immigration every mile or so parked there. they are looking for people to cross and there is a fence that starts at the university of texas at brownsville and it goes drivee way up and if you from brownsville, texas all the way to laredo, texas, for example, you will see probably no less than 80 or 90 texas department of public service -- i'm sorry, dps which are the state troopers, parked in the side of the road waiting for

immigrants. you have thousands of border patrol agent, thousands of state is aboutand the border as secure as you can get but people still come through anyway. you cannot tell me that anybody is advocating for an open border. the situation is that people come in anyway. immigration has dropped significantly, illegal immigration has dropped significantly in recent years. that is not the issue. host: let's get the last two calls in, william from new jersey on the republican line. caller: yes, i have two statements -- two questions. crisesat the immigration as if the democrats are proponents of immigration reform they should explain which laws should be ignored and which laws

should be enforced. we could receive it all a lot better. -- i'mer thing is wondering why no one is actually talking about the folks in line and going through the immigration process legally. everybody is talking about the illegal people that are already here in the country but what do we tell the folks in line waiting filling out the paperwork and going by the law who are already on the books? do we tell them to get out of the line and cross over or do they stay? host: we got the point. some of those folks might have a resentment. honest, if to be there was a line, i don't know where it is. wish i could get in it because i have never really heard of it. i know people go through the process legally. every case is different.

not everyone comes from the same country. not everyone is in the same circumstance. not everyone can get married to someone and get legal status that way. not everyone has a family member here. not everyone has a special skill. that does not mean there should not be a system in place for us to be able to do it legally. a lot of people say, why don't you do it the right way? please, give me the right way and i will do it that way. host: what would you advocate being done when it comes to immigration reform? in 1986, there was a general amnesty and i am being very simple in my language here but would you advocate that for today again? guest: i don't know the specifics of the bill in the 80's. i know the one we proposed in 2013 was a great start. , no bill is.fect i definitely think we need a solution.

there are families here, people who have started their lives here and we need a path for those people that is permanent. right now, i have a solution that is very temporary. the next president could change it. that means everything i worked for and everything i did could just vanish in one decision. host: you heard what our callers have to say. do they have legitimate concerns in your view? guest: i think they are legitimate in the fact that they have misinformation. if we laid out the facts -- and maybe we heard some of these stories, maybe if we were more informed and what these people go through. in the history of this country and intervening in other countries. and the reason why people come here. what we need to do to solve the problem, maybe we would not have these concerns. i agree with some of the colors

about being informed -- some of the callers about being informed. host: the final word. well, belinda is right. there has to be a solution that becomes the law. you cannot have these temporary solutions continue for very long. she cannot have this hanging over her. we need her to live her life and have the ability to succeed. she brings a lot to america. she is what made america great and why would continue to be great. we have to give her the opportunity to help and continued to make it great. have some fair-minded, intelligent members of congress that can come together and have a plan on how to have comprehensive immigration reform where you secure the borders, take care of

the 12 million undocumented immigrants in this country today, and you give them an opportunity, a path to citizenship, you tweak the immigration laws to make sure they are more fair than what they are now, a lot of nations have quotas that are unfair and they cause some of this -- these folks to come into this country. please, i want people out there to stop saying the word illegal alien. god did not make anybody illegal. host: we will have to end it there and thank you both for being on the "washington journal ." a couple of more hours left in our program. next up, we will talk to two women who have known hillary clinton for a while. first, it's not just democrats that are in philadelphia. have their own set up here. here is a look. this is our rapid response

operation in philadelphia and we respond in real time to what's happening this entire week. we are holding press conferences daily to message. enough of hillary clinton and enough of failed policies and enough of the lies and scandals. every day you have seen that message throughout the entire week. where better to be on the front lines than actually being here in philadelphia where we can respond in real time, where we can hold press conferences for the media attending the dnc to come over and attend our press conferences and be able to show you spaces like this to give everyone an inside look as to what we are doing with our rapid response team. we are shooting man on the street videos and talk to voters and today we launched a new video about tim kaine and how voters feel about hillary clinton picking him as her running mate.

we found they are not excited about him. a lot of supporters feel very disenfranchised. he does not meet a need they have and they feel he is a career establishment candidate. he appeals to the bernie sanders voters. this can only be done by being on the front line in the trenches. we are here responding in real-time to what is happening at the wells fargo center. the -- onpop up in the tv in seconds. some of the stuff is preprepared. we have different opposition that will come down the line and others are based off of someone making an error and we can clip it in enough time to fit the narrative we are pushing. we have over 35 members of our team in philadelphia. there are several tvs with the speech is going on. you can also see the staff on their laptops working diligently and watching speeches.

timeve it on the entire and we will be here until late into the night if not into early tomorrow morning responding in real time. social media allows us to continuously get the message out not only to the media but to the voters and gives you an opportunity to see what's happening and what's being reported by the press but what are the attendees saying? and do the bernie sanders clinton supporters saying? we can see all of this in real-time. several platforms allow you to monitor social media on multiple sites and you can watch in real time what is trending amongst voters. what is going on tonight and what are voters concerned about and what has struck a chord and what are they happy with and not happy with. we can see all of that almost instantaneously. beingok at the coverage received in the few pieces we pushed out was picked up by

major networks on twitter and you look at the number of views of our videos and the numbers of clicks they have received. that proves that what we are doing here is a success. when you watch different coverage and you see articles displaying what is happening space, we are here at 2300 arena which is an iconic space for wrestling and mixed martial arts and boxing. podium set up downstairs for press conferences and area with games. it is a comical way to play off of hillary clinton. we have been able to generate a lot of interest and activity around our operations here in philadelphia. we want to drive our message in the mainstream media and social media. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] we guest:\/\

host: we are back live. the national constitution center where we are broadcasting from and have been all week. on our set inside the national constitution center are two more guests. first off, former arkansas state representative johnny roebuck. when did you first meet hillary clinton? guest: 1982? host: what were the circumstances? guest: i was teaching school and she was very involved in education and in trying to make things better for us. we were talking about preschool education and she was very interested in involving family and parents and their children's education. she broughtin 1985, a program to us because she knew we had a problem. this was before we were talking about pre-k. she knew we had to get parents involved in education of their

children so she brought a program to arkansas called home instruction for parents. to parents how to teach their children in their home so children did not have to go out for pre-k. they were taught by their parents and it's a wonderful program that is still in existence. that's how i met her. host: what have you worked on together besides that program? chaired our standards committee in arkansas when bill clinton was governor. she went all over the state and have a listening tour. hillary listens. she does not make decisions for herself. she listens and then makes decisions. she traveled all over the state in 72 counties. to find out what we needed. with her committee, they wrote the standards and that was passed into law. we had the best standards in the nation and she did that. , goodmarguerite willis

morning, what is your connection to hillary clinton? guest: about nine years ago, i got a cell phone call, i am a lawyer, and i answered my cell phone and the voice said this is hillary clinton, do you have a minute to talk? i said thank you for calling. working here, can you calmly back? she said sure. i hung up and sure enough, the people in the room said you just tongue up on hillary clinton. i said i have a job. that saturdayback at my home in florence and she said i want to talk about running for president. she's that i want to talk about the issues and i want to talk to you. i said let's talk. that's how i met her. host: why did she call you and did you expect it? guest: i did not expect the call and i don't know why she called me. i think it's because i have always been interested in women's issues. it may be because i have been for a in the women's bar

while in washington, d.c. and recently as president of the south carolina women's bar so maybe she found me that way. host: why are you both here is delegates for hillary clinton? guest: i am here because i've waited all my life to be here. this is an exciting time for me. i have none -- i've never run for delegate or been to the convention as a delegates why wanted to be here for this historic moment and i am so excited. host: guest: why specifically for hillary clinton? she represents everything i believe is great about our country and i believe she is the person that can take us forward. she is a thinker. she is a doer. you never give hillary a problem because she is always going to find the answer. don't ask her to do something that you don't want them because she will take it. host: our numbers are on the screen if you want to participate with these two delegates. she was described by the president as relentless. guest: she does not give up. host: marguerite willis, why

hillary clinton? guest: i am here for the girls. , am here for women's issues for equal pay, equal opportunity, women's health. i am particularly here because i had to go around and over and under and through so many obstacles to get to where i am. for the girls, for my nieces, the young women i work with at my law firm, they need to take that same energy and make this great country even greater. host: are you saying it was more difficult for you because you are a woman? guest: yes. host: how so? guest: i graduated from law school in the 70's and there were only five women in my class of 150. i did not have anybody much ahead of me. i had to make my way. i made it. i want to make sure that i leave a legacy. i like to say that if somebody

took a machete to the jungle, i want to pay the roads for the women in my law firm and pave the roads for my nieces and all the girls of america. i want to make sure that they have the chance. i had a chance but i want to make sure they have a better chance. is a former roebuck majority leader of the arkansas house of representatives. do you share the same journey? guest: host: what was more difficult for you? in 1964 andrted out graduated from college and when i started out, it was very women to be school administrators or to take leadership roles. i had to climb that ladder. my students used to tell me i climbed it in high heels. it is more difficult for women. i think that's why this is such an historic moment for all of us , for my granddaughters and daughters. i look forward to seeing a time

when we take it for granted that women can do anything, even become president of the united states. host: here is yesterday's "new york times." you can see our guest marguerite willis right there front and center. did you get calls from home? guest: i got calls from everywhere. i knew it was going to be somewhere. the photographers stopped us and took a picture but mainly the theirstopped and asked if daughters could pose with that picture. it has a life of its own. host: this is guest: the sign. did guest: you make this sign question mark i did not but i learned it was made by teachers. the teachers union got together and made some handmade signs. i asked for that one. that's my sign. the signs we see in cleveland or in philadelphia, those are premade? guest: they are.

.omebody made that sign if anybody made that sign and is watching, please call in and let me know. host: i will flip this sign around. what's on this side? guest: for my friends who support clinton, it's the clinton tigers for hillary. for the gamecocks, i did not to the back, only the front. let's take some calls. johnny roebuck of arkansas and marguerite willis of south carolina, brian of new york city, independent. caller: good morning. party isthe democratic the party of victims, of the women are victims and everyone is a victim and the democratic party. i of course am lucky to have white privilege. my parents came from ireland 80 years ago. i will be 80 in one month. i grew up in a one-room

apartment over a bar. are you talking to me? host: no, we were listening and i think we got your point. let's hear what margaret willis has to say. does he have a legitimate point? morning and happy almost 80th birthday. i am not a victim. i am one of the most successful trial lawyers in south carolina. i want to make sure that my nieces who were not victims either in young women who work for me in my law firm and the wonderful young women across this country have an equal opportunity. we did not get the right to vote until 1920. from high school in the 1960's and when i graduated in greenville, south carolina, women couldn't sit on juries. we are now fully engaged in the legal process. i am no victim.

i am not a survivor, i am a prosperer and i want to make sure that happens for other women in this country. guest: i have never been a victim. what we have done is we have worked and we are doers. i don't see us as victims. have we worked hard? certainly but never what i classify myself or any of my colleagues as victims. host: when you hear that the democratic party practices identity politics, what does that mean to you? guest: i think we have to practice identity politics because we have to reach the voters and we have to reach the people that need us. right now, this is our turn. it's our turn to say that hillary is everything we want moving forward. it's all about the future. and we want toe say to the young women that you can do anything. i was told by my grandmother and

my mother that you can be anything you want to be. i know that there are girls out there and young women who are not being told that so i am telling you that you can do anything. we have issues in the democratic party beyond women. example, the environmental issues. i came over here in electric bus from my hometown of greenville, south carolina. we care about the environment and a lot of things. the 80-year-old brian and i care about him having medicare and good health care and his family. brian, i care about you. host: charles from texas, and democrat, go ahead. caller: yes, i was wondering about bernie. why are the women saying they will not vote for hillary

clinton? bernie has said that he is giving his votes to the clinton foundation or ms. clinton. why the women of the united states will not vote -- stand up for hillary. guest: let me take that one. is a woman ofn impeccable credentials for the job. last night, president obama said there has not been anyone more qualified. have the job of president of the united states. i think women who are at tough or strong and determined, the we have come up, sometimes they are not seen as warm and fuzzy. shockingly, some people don't think i am warm and fuzzy. warmy probably has a more

and fuzzy image than i do. whether or not you are warm and fuzzy, hillary clinton cares, i --e, we are here before because we care. look in the mirror and ask who was going to help me. hillary clinton looks like you, ladies and she will help you. host: i don't know if you saw "usa today," in their opinion piece -- i will read one line. and get your response. i am fully aware that many of you have concerns about me, question my judgment and honesty and some of you just plain don't like me. i hear you, believe me, i am not a natural politician like my husband or our current president.i sometimes come off as stiff or shrill. guest: certainly, and i think that was accurate. the think we need to understand is when bill clinton talked

about her the other night, he told her story. it's up to us as supporters to continue to tell that story all over. i'm a member of the arkansas travelers. we travel all over the country and tell that story. we will be back out there on the road with them for a long time. we will tell that story. is about solving problems and getting to the issues and hillary can do that. does she do it any warm and fuzzy way? because she has impatient waiting a long time. she is a workaholic and wants to solve problems. when we get that story out there, when we travel around the country and tell that and bill clinton continues to tell that story about his wonderful wife, people will like her and they will know she is the person for the job and she can solve these problems. host: dane is in titusville, kentucky -- jane is in titusville, kentucky. caller: i just want to make a

comment. i voted for hillary back in the election against obama. you know the rules, turn down your television and listen through the telephone. caller: i'm sorry, i'm a woman and i'm from the state of kentucky. the economy in our state is so poor that people are losing their jobs all over the country. i voted for hillary back when she was against obama eight years ago. i rooted for all the way. i am so scared with the economy. isng to the grocery store ridiculous with the prices of food. i've got cancer and i am on a fixed income with social security and no raises in the last three years. besides, the e-mail -- if they are so afraid of all the e-mails she took off of her server,

nobody can't find it but they are so scared not to release those e-mails. i will not vote for hillary. host: let's go ahead and hear answer wouldlawyer jane had to say. sorry that you're not well and if you think the republicans can help you more than the democrats with social security and your medical needs, i think you are wrong. as far as the economy, i was in south carolina so i understand what it is to have to work hard for a job. we are doing better. i hope things are better in kentucky as well. give hillary another shot. you elected president obama and this time it will be president clinton and i think she has a track record of helping women, helping women's health, helping children's health and helping those who need the help the most like you.

i'm asking you, jane, to give her another chance. host: as a hillary clinton delegate, johnny roebuck, is the dnc e-mail issue legitimate? guest: yes, it is. i think we have to get beyond that area we have to understand that everyone has something that will come up during the campaign. there will be many other issues. we may lookssue, back and say that was a little bitty issue. we have to look beyond that and think about the future. one story about hillary, when chair that-- a commission on education standards in arkansas, we were rock-bottom. we did not have any standards and she looked at that and the way she did it and she looked at what we needed and she traveled , today, afterthen she finished and today, we are ranked as one of the most

improved states from that time. hillary clinton did that. i say again, she has made mistakes, we all have. we need to move this country forward and she can do that. let's quit worrying about what happened in the past. let's move forward. host: matthew from georgia, republican, good morning. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i will try to get this in before you cut me off. i cannot believe, hillary clinton toomey has no character. she has no gumption to do what is right. it is evident and you see all the time in her decisions she makes and the things that happen. i won't go into the details because everybody knows but i cannot believe the people that stand back and back her and say she is doing good. i wrote a motorcycle for 40 years without a license. i did not get caught or stopped

and i thought i need to make this right and get a license for my motorcycle. when that lady was talking earlier -- i will tie this into hillary -- when they were talking about the illegals and not going after them to get it right, she was a nice lady. it sounds like she had a good life. but she needed to do things legal. it seems like hillary is pushing to have people to open up the borders and make all these people who got here all of a sudden have a license, to be american. as far as the guy was saying that people get an a military and serve our country, they are not allowed to serve a country of they are not american. host: we got the point. marguerite willis? would good morning, i like to address what you said about hillary clinton not having any gumption.

gumptionok up the word in the dictionary, there is a picture of hillary clinton and a picture of me and johnny and all of us who work so hard for our issues. immigration is not my issue. the issue but my issue is the women's issue, equal pay and i'm sure you have no problem with that, equal opportunity, i'm sure you have no problems with that for women and also women's health. maybe johnny can respond to that better than i. my issue is education and that's why i am so much for hillary. we can educate our young people and make sure that we have quality pre-k around this country. ofwould solve a lot problems. we look at our prisons and we look at the education level in our prisons. when you look at the education level of our children, we can almost chart and they are doing that to see how many prison beds we will see. we have all kinds of problems.

we can solve everything with education. host: johnny roebuck is the retired dean of the graduate school at henderson state university. johnny roebuck was also a state representative at one point in arkansas. is aarguerite willis former mayor of florence, south carolina. guest: absolutely. host: milwaukee, wi, democrat. caller: good morning and thank you for c-span. i'm a product of a very strong woman. she hadr raised us, four children and my father left. she taught us the value of education and hard work. mother said out of the four children, she sent two of us to college, my older brother was the first black policeman for the state of mississippi. enoughyou, i cannot say

for women like hillary clinton who is strong. another thing, she has children concerns and women's concerns at the heart of her life. she haswith everything ever done. i kept up with her for years. i admire hillary and i'm doing everything i can to be sure she becomes the first president not because she is female but because she is a wonderful and valuable person to not only our country but to the world. host: johnny roebuck. guest: thank you so much because i agree with you entirely. i'm a native of mississippi so i identify as well. just so you know about hillary, her background and her passion speaks for itself. you have to help us, you have to tell her story. i hope you will help build tell it and i know you have been following her for years preview have to tell that story everywhere you go.

across sometimes as cold and calculating the deep down inside, there is that warm passion that she has for making this country better. help us tell the story. you got it. host: in the wells fargo center, arkansas has a front row seat. where is south carolina seated? guest: it also has a good seat in the back on the first floor. that's where the picture got taken. host: wwould walk right by you. guest: you have to stand up there because you cannot see over the crowd. i was there with a girl power sign and that's how the picture got on the front page of "the new york times." host: when is the last time you talked to hillary clinton? guest: it's been a long time. i probably talk to her over the phone. she stays in contact. she loves arkansas and considers arkansas one of her homes. that's why we have the front row seats. i was on the front page of "usa

today" the day before yesterday and marguerite and i are front-page material. host: i wish we had that paper. i wish i had that to see it, picture of my friend senator joyce elliott and i because we were together that night when she became the nominee. i wanted to be with joyce that night. we brought her up to the front and she will be back on the front tonight. we were together so that picture of us is very emotional. host: my guess is our producer back in washington is purest lead typing in to find out that -- to find that picture of you and state senator joyce elliott. let's hear from charles in denton, texas, democrat. caller: how are you doing? gettinghillary clinton the nomination is somewhat of a disgrace to women.

dnc, the light of the e-mails that were leaked about three days ago from wikileaks, the dnc was exposed, pandering to hillary clinton. there was voter suppression. i think we got the point. his point is that this is not a good representative of women because of some of the issues in the e-mails that have come to light. i would ask you also what if it were the governor who was the first woman elected president? not a big nikki haley supporter because she is republican. if it was her, i would say the same thing, girl power. it is the historic point here for all of us.

we tell our nieces and daughters and grandchildren that these wonderful young women can do anything they want. somebody said to me we don't have to cross our fingers anymore when we say this. they, too, have a chance to run for president and it never happened before. but morning, governor haley i would be right there for you as well just as i am for hillary. is politics. i am not a political person. i was married to a mayor, a person they would call if the sewer backed up. i am not a politician. things happen but i don't think in any way it impinges upon the history of this moment or the credibility of hillary clinton as a candidate. guest: you said she was a

disgrace to women. not in my part of the country. after we finished telling her story, she will not be a disgrace to any woman. i encourage you to look at her record and look at the facts. study before you vote. host: what would you like to hear from mrs. clinton? guest: i would like to hear that passion and i would like for everybody in the world tonight to see the real hillary because we know the real hillary. can solve our problems. she can make our nation better. she can continue to bring people together. consensus builder. i know that will come through tonight. i think she has worked hard and i think people will see that. this is a moment and it is our moment. host: let's hear from paul in indianapolis. caller: good morning.

after 25 years and the federal civil service, i have no problem working for women, half my bosses have been women. is hillary clinton going to be mcconnellt along with or paul ryan? she really cannot do anything by herself. that when barack hema came in in 2009, campaigned as a uniter but he went extremely partisan starting with his first inaugural in 2009 for which he paid a better price in the 2010 elections. host: we will hear from johnny roebuck who served in the arkansas state house and has worked on this type of thing. you're exactly right,

hillary will not be able to do it by herself, of course. she has to build consensus and she can do that. she did that as secretary of state. when i servedat in the legislature and my husband served in the legislature. you cannot get anything done by yourself. that sheou will see will talk about that tonight about how she can build the consensus. another thing we will do is when election time rolls around in november, we will give her some help around this country. connery eldredge will go to washington as a democrat and he will sit in that senate seat and give her the help she needs. tina, fort worth, democrat, you are on the air. thatr: i would like to say a woman being president shows that america can change.

it's not going to be a change because hillary is running for president and will be the president. that is the ultimate change. could it bechange other than a woman being president? feel it's looking as though men will be counted out in this. she will have great male counterparts around her also. she will have advisors. it will not just be all women. the men are not counted out. host: she will be a great president. host:let's hear from marguerite willis on this question. guest: and the people say a man. i cannot say it better than you said it. host: let's show something on the air. this is the front page of "usa today." you can see johnny roebuck right there on the front page. we have two front-page delegates.

with us today. next call comes from carrie in canton, north carolina, republican line, go ahead. caller: good morning, ladies. being republican or democrat, we can all agree that this is an historical day. we can be proud. i got a question for you ladies. edution, if hillary is elected -- i am republican i will go the other way. if she is elected, i would like to know what a normal guy like universities is hillary -- where will people like me be able to go to turn in education where we can go out and make a 20 minute speech and earn a quarter of a million dollars.

[no audio] host: i think gary was done. what is your response? guest: i'm a regular person. i'm a first-generation college graduate. i know about those regular people. where all in this together. certainly, there are some things we will hear about. you have to remember that hillary is also a regular person. go back to her story. dean, austin, texas, independent. who is i am somebody very liberal, i would say. i think bernie sanders is probably someone i would vote for and be very happy about. i have never voted for a republican my entire life. withe some real issues

what i called mutually destroyed destruction and the vitriol and anger that spun off from both campaigns. this started with michelle obama and there have been a whole series of leaders in the democratic party last night. they were shouting past each other. it really disturbs me. historically to ronald reagan on this point. who loved jimmy carter because of his solar energy and i thought reagan was demonized as somebody who is on the nuclear button and was a dumb actor. it's the characterization assassination technique. this man, ronald reagan, who i look back now 20 or 30 years later and it took me time to finally see some common sense.

he ended the cold war and it could not have been the democrats, in my opinion because they were so left and it was complicated. host: i think we got your issue. would you like to address that? guest: good morning, i am from south carolina. character assassination is a horrible thing wherever it comes from. no person should be demeaned by anyone else. if you don't like character assassination, you surely can't vote for donald trump. if you look up character assassination in the dictionary, you will see a picture of donald trump. host: if somebody says to you they are a donald trump supporter, do you hear something in that or presume something? , firstyes, what i hear of all i wonder if my years are stopped up at secondly, i hear frustration and the desire to have some kind of change.

it's a desire not to have a woman be elected to president. i try to work on that when someone tells me that and i tried to explain to them that it is not a threat to have a woman be president and does not take anything away from you to have a woman be president and what you ought to do is close your eyes and listen to the characteristics of both candidates. disregard their sex and picked a better person. statesou both come from where donald trump is favored. what do you hear when you hear somebody say they support him? guest: it is not only anger but it's fear. i the campaign continues, think those are the only two things that donald trump has going for him is the anger and the fear. if you can instill that in people, he is going to win and that's what we have to come out and say that we are not about anger or fear. we are about hope in the future.

do your research. bowie,ast call, maryland, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, i would like to say i am a black woman and i started voting around ronald reagan time. i voted independent before sometimes republican and sometimes democrat. still live in a place where a man is able to say i don't need to answer the question. in thealmost betrays an united states of america and people say he is smart and he is negotiating and he will be a good person for our country because they are afraid of people coming to take the jobs they don't want in the first place.

we have a woman like hillary clinton. i love her. i love her because she is a woman, because she is smart, and she knows when to answer a question, when to open her mouth and went to be quiet and we call her cold and shrill. shame on america. shame on america. donald trump to say over and over again when she becomes the first woman president of the united states to say thank you. host: as a trial attorney, have you ever been described as forceful or come across as other things? guest: i have been described as many things. callers, chrisr called her stiff and shrill. youote down, yeah, but if

are a guy she would be strong and commanding. we have all gone through it and have gotten work are getting past it. if i listened to everything that was said about me, i would be off kilter and i would be looking over my shoulder. you have to do the best you can to ignore it and go forward. in the moment, you just do the best you can. is best that can happen here for all of us to elect hillary clinton president. host: the final word. guest: we also have to look at the record of bill and hillary. their whole story for our young people is that you can do it. try again. don't be the victim of defeat. step up and go back out there and that's what hillary has done. you heard obama say it last night. elect hillary. we are so proud. host: thank you both. all week long, we have been at

the national constitution center and we will meet the director of the national constitution center next after this up date from washington. greta: we just heard testimony by those two delegates about hillary clinton. we heard it last night but outside the convention there is this video that was put out there. i am in disbelief that this is the real footage of dnc in philly, absolute madness. this was taken early this morning.

greta: jim dalrymple has this video as well from last night. greta: democracy now tweeted out

that a bernie sanders supporter was inside the convention. here is that video. >> he said because he lost and you'd don't respect a man from thought for your civil rights. i live in a democracy. sa he came in not involved and you lie. we will work with you but you're not respecting our people. and you're not respecting others. you want to have the floor the whole time and that is wrong. people would be with you but you are disrespectful. acting being bratty and out. that's not what america is about. >> i'm sorry, i don't hear her. i am trying to stay positive and i live in a democracy. i know unfair trade deals were an hour country and put millions of people out of jobs. environment.r

they will invade our internet security and we don't even know the entire story because it's shrouded in secrecy. it is reported that dr. jill stein with the green party and gary johnson from the libertarians are trying to pick a bernie sanders supporters. pew research came out with a poll that 97% of center supporters say they will cast their ballot for clinton in november. in a close election, it says several thousand votes couldn't the difference between president clinton or president trump. it says the green party is capitalizing on the disaffection of the center's. the press a cairn terrier -- the press secretary for the jill stein campaign quotes her as saying it's going faster than she can imagine. all of her campaign activity grew tenfold 24 hours after bernie sanders supported hillary clinton. it is really becoming exponential.

then there is this from red state about libertarian gary johnson and jill stein. the abc poll, the libertarian and green party's art neck in picking up sanders wayward supporters. finally, jeb bush plus younger was on thevin junkies show on 106.7 it was a sports channel. he endorsed jerry johnson the libertarian candidate. when trump is talking about john mccain not being a hero, it's pretty frustrating. on the other hand, you have hillary. i think she is one of the most dishonest people that has ever been politics. with things pattern

like the commodity trading and whitewater and file gate and e-mail controversy and all this stuff. she will always say these are right wing conspiratorial lists bringing this up. there is a pattern of deception that is the reason her trust ratings are lower than almost any politician around. >> is it fair to say that on both sides, they are not happy with who we have come up with. >> that's why i'm voting libertarian. 100%. them, it's aabout anded vote but gary wells his running mate were successful two-term governor xander fiscally conservative. their essential message is to give bureaucracy -- is to get bureaucracy off our backs which is what republicans used to believe. host: i am back live in

philadelphia. all week long, we have had our studio at the national constitution center in the center city area of philadelphia. this is part of the constitution center and the george h w bush gallery. jeff rosen, what is this place all about? to have c-spanr here all week and you have been a great partner of the center. the center is a unique place. it's the only place in america that has a mandate from congress information.e our mission is to bring together citizens of all perspectives. is to learn about debate and celebrate this great document of human freedom that unites us in these polaroid times and that's the u.s. constitution. we do it at the beautiful museum . we have original copies of the

declaration and the constitution and the bill of rights into great partnerships like the c-span landmark cases series that we did together and i think your viewers for their response to that show. we do it with our we the people podcasts that invite the best scholars to debate the constitution and we have an incredible interactive constitution online. you can find it at constitution center.org. we asked the top liberal and conservative scholars to write about every cause of the constitution -- every clause of the constitution. i want you to check it out. click on any part of the constitution and see with the top liberals and conservatives agree and disagree about and make up your own mind. they are thrilling tools that we hope to bring to every citizen in the united states. no, it was created by an act of congress during the bicentennial, though we are a and we nonprofit

received little government money and that is why i tell people we rely on the support of people who love constitutional education and debate, and we are eager for members to join us at constitutioncenter.org, created by congress with his beautiful nonpartisan mission. host: who are the chairman now and to have been the past chairman? 41,t: president george bush after whom we named that beautiful gallery with the copy of the bill of rights, bill clinton and our most recent jeb bush, so we are looking for new chair and they will have one soon. further, jeffe go rosen was here and viewers familiar and you have watched c-span will have seen him on the air, either talking about his and hehis most recent, has been on our landmark series cases, where we look at major supreme court cases, and he was

a partner and a part of that as well. has appeared in time from time to sporadically as a guest on her morning program "the washington journal." we will talk about constitutional issues, convention history issues, whatever you want to fire at him, my guess is you will be able to answer. the numbers are up on the screen. dial in quickly. how did you get this wonderful property right here overlooking independence hall, liberty bell, east of center city? guest: it is the most inspiring constitutional deal in america, and looking out at independence hall with the declaration of independence and the constitution, fills me with pride and patriotism every day. it was an amazing story. it was 1987, the bicentennial of the constitution, and a group of people decided it was important that in philadelphia we create

the only center devoted to the u.s. constitution in america. the government created some of the money, a lot was private and it opened in 2003. we have been open for over 13 years. as a result, it is the only museum center with the u.s. constitution in america. host: what does it cost? guest: about $14, but there are discounts all the time. i am reluctant to make reckless offers, but if anyone has trouble with the admission price, e-mail me and we can get you in. host: should they mention c-span? saw me on, so you c-span and you will get the c-span discount. host: we have been showing video of signers hall. what is that? guest: it is so inspiring and the place that visitors love the most. they are life-sized statues of

all the men who signed the constitution. they are exactly to scale comes taken see washington towering and madison at five feet three inches, and everyone wants to go see hamilton. and then there is then franklin. and you can see everything is rubbed off because it is shiny, but then you can see the last familiar founders, including the anti-federalist, the three men who refused to sign the constitution because it had no bill of rights. eldridge gerry, response and for gerrymandering, edmund randolph and george mason of virginia, and because of their opposition to the lack of the bill of rights, james madison came to support a bill of rights and it was adopted. host: would the gentleman in that room recognize the political convention that is fourning for miles -- miles south of here? guest: they were not because they do not or they did not

support the rise of political parties. it is amazing how all of the main framers did not support. john adams said "there is nothing that i dread so much as the division of the republican to two great parties." thomas jefferson says "if i cannot go to heaven but with a political party, i would not go there at all." they warned about a group of citizens, group or annuity, emanated -- animated by the same interest. parties rise pretty quickly, mostly as a result of the debate over the national bank. anyone who has listened to the hamilton musical will know that great song about whether or not the bank is constitutional. alexander hamilton wants to chart at the national bank. thomas jefferson thinks congress power,poer under -- and as a result, jefferson

supporters create the first party, democratic republicans, in opposition to washington, hamilton and federalist, and then parties have been up and running. host: how long have you been at the center now and what were you doing prior? you were in washington, or a new? en't you? guest: i am and i still am. i have been here three years and i have signed up for another three years. i feel like i am in constitutional have been. educate debate and themselves. it is important. i really think we can elevate civil discourse, mostly by educating americans about the constitution. jefferson fox. democracy cannot [indiscernible] yourself, listen to the best jargon on both sides and you can make up your own mind. it is a responsibility as citizens and a privilege. host: dave is in washington,

d.c., democrat line. caller: good morning. such a you are doing tremendous job of covering these conventions unfiltered. i have watched your programs from the constitution centers, panels, debates, what a tremendous job. i am a lawyer. from both perspectives, i think you have offered something really unique to the public with this center. my question for you, constitutional question is this -- as you are aware, donald trump, yesterday, called for releaseo find and amails and asked to have foreign power involved in the united states election. while i do not practice as a lawyer, as a proud graduate of

georgetown law, my understanding of federal law is that the u.s. federal code for treason states allegiancer claims to the united states adheres to their enemies, giving them aid within the united states or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death -- host: i think we got the idea. let's see how mr. rosen wants to address that. checkingank you for out the constitution center programs and i'm glad you found them online. they are designed for you and other citizens. treason is a specific concept and there are all sorts of requirements and it is defined narrowly, as it up frothe alexander burr trial. you mentioned federal law. there is one called the logan act thousand posture on the time of the first congress that prohibits private citizens from engaging in foreign policy.

it was designed to prevent freelancing by private citizens. the center is nonpartisan, so i think that is the only thing i can say. if you are trying to figure out the constraints on citizens forging with foreign powers foreign policy, the logan act is the place to look. host: bernard, new york city, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. professor rosen, i read your op-ed piece in "the new york times" last week concerning the consideration of judge garland's nomination to serve on the supreme court. you made an impassioned argument for his worthiness. i think that is based on the assumption that the republican senate majorities hang up enacting on the nomination relates to the quality of judge garland himself. i think that is false assumption. the republicans made it clear

before judge garland was toinated that they refused act on any nomination by president obama to fill up the justice seat. by focusing on the nomination of judge garland, it seems to me you love the senate republicans off the hook of their behavior in refusing to behave in -- behavior in refusing to engage in filling the vacancy. guest: thanks. we did a podcast on the question on whether or not the constitution requires the senate to act on nominations. you can go to "we the people," our podcast, and you can hear law professors saying there is no duty -- forgive me, saying there is a duty to act because have yet to act makes it impossible for the court to function and messes with the separation of powers. our conservative law professor says that the senate has exercised their advice, which is

they do not want to consider the nomination until after the election. i think they were both arguments given on both sides. you can check them out on a our podcast. host: what was your op-ed? guest: it piggybacked on the past that judge garland had surpassed the number of days waiting for confirmation. andrandeis waited 125 days confirmed on june 1 and garland has waited more than 125 days. my point was merely that people had brandeis in his day as a radical figure, but on the court, he was the opposite. he cared about institutional legitimacy of the court and he joined howard taft, who had been his antagonist, in a series of -- unanimous opinions and i said that similarly, judge garland might be a good suitor

as well. host: why did you choose [indiscernible] they gave me a homework assignment to write about louis brandeis. host: was he the first jewish judge on the court? guest: he was. here is my hero in every respect. ofis the greatest critic business in the business and government since thomas jefferson and he was also more influential than anyone else in persuading the british to recognize the british homeland in palestine. he is a hero, profit, and it is a short and passionate case thank you brandeis matters today. host: jeff rosen has appeared on tv," and you can go to type in his name,

and the most recent one should be his talk on louis brandeis. mike is in austin, texas, democrat line. mike? sir, thank you for having me on the show. mr. rosen, my question is, you know, i am a little bit disillusioned with the constitution, frankly. after the george w. bush administration, i lost all faith that that is the document that is really governing. for the most part, our courts are bought and sold. everything gets rubberstamped depending on what somebody wants to do. to the extent that you, of course, believe it is a living

and breathing document that is ,overning us and has relevance i would argue that it has no relevance. most of the americans know that the people in charge do whatever they want to do and they get whatever they want to do. we have more criminals who are -- there is no fear for them. they sit in this country and laugh at the millions of people they had killed. they sit in this country and they have no fear of the courts. they have no fear -- host: before you get too far, we have to get a response. guest: mike makes an important point. she we have faith in this u.s. constitution? i do have faith -- should we have faith in this u.s.

constitution? i do have faith. you can disagree with what the government does, but you say the government can do whatever it wants -- the supreme court after years ago was asked whether the government could search our cell phones when they arrest people, and the government said, yes, you can search without a warrant. 9-0,.s. supreme court, said no. the framers of the constitution five the american revolution over the principles that the government should not be able to search our private papers without a warrant, therefore, you cannot search the most intimate papers without good cause. i think that is a great example of how our courts are not bought and sold. interpreting the constitution independently and we can disagree with some rulings and you can have cases where justices have different joinedtives and they together to enforce founding principles. i think this is the one document that unites us in polarized times and that is white is important to learn and study at and debate it. rosen, the national constitution center, right across from independence hall in

center city, philadelphia. the liberty bell sitting in that building halfway between us and independence hall. a lot to do down here. come by and see him. we appreciate your hospitality, your hosting us on "the washington journal." guest: it has been so great to have the here and thank you are learning about the constitution. host: if you did not get the idea, jeff rosen loves his job. guest: very much. i love the constitution. host: coming up up, we will talk to temple university professor robin kolodny about the historical impact of hillary clinton's nomination. what do you have for us? commentsnald trump's inviting russia to find a 30,000 e-mails not only makes the news and all the u.s. papers, but also in london. here is "the mirror" with headline -- donald trump refuses to release tax returns and makes odd request of vladimir putin.

"politico" notes this morning that the top-run fundraiser for the hillary clinton campaign offered to give donald trump money for charity he would like if he released the returns and that is similar to another donor who offered 5 million dollars. moving on to international coverage of the democratic national convention, the website sputniknews.com, started and operated by the russian government, as this headline -- "facade of democracy hides rigged outcome of the democratic national convention." theanted to update you on site for president obama's library. "the chicago tribune" with the chooses to stroke jackson park as library site -- technology getting away from me, let me go back up, rejecting an urban site for what could be a showcase in the late rent.

president barack obama and first lady michelle obama have selected chicago's historic jackson park as the side of his presidential library. the choice, which leaked out ahead of a formal announcement next week, related some southside residents but upset others in washington park, whose surrounding neighborhood is full of vacant lots. we want to and with video that was put together by a fusion, showing the different fashion that you might find at the democratic national convention. [video clip] ♪ at the dnc, politics is the main attraction, but the fabulous sides are all of the clothing choices and hat choices of the delegates. ♪ >> wow, wow, wow. ♪

host: some of the hats being warned this week at the dnc. as you can see from this -- at the democratic national convention. as you can see, the staging has switched up for hillary clinton's acceptance speech. there is , new paths -- there is new lifeght and paths.

robin kolodny is with us from temple university. what do you teach there? science,litical campaigns, elections, campaign finance, political parties, and everything that we have been seeing the past few days. host: you teach about campaigns, collections. what do you tell your students are what are you going to tell your students in september about this campaign? guest: this campaign has been historic on many dimensions. we have an unconventional republican nominee, and rehab the first woman to be nominated -- and we have the first woman to be nominated in a major part in the democratic side. there's nothing expected about the discourse that we are about to see. is it thatignificant hillary clinton has been nominated? guest: there is significant. has never been a female nominated by major party and united states. we have had women in the vice

presidential spot, a couple of women who have run previously for the presidential nominations, but have been symbolic or small candidacies and not anything that really caught on within the party. considered there most powerful nation on nurse. the fact that there has not been forss to the white house women is significant. that is why this is a big deal. it a natural evolution that it is 2016 and hillary clinton happens to be female? that: i hope it is exactly withse the real issue having female representation is not so much this idea, for me, that it is half the population has been unable to access the channels of power, but a lot of feminist scholars write about

what you do when you prohibit frome of a minority group participation is you are depriving yourself of the talent of half the population. we will never really know, because you cannot go back and rerun it, if the people that we put in some of these positions with the best ones because we excluded women from that. to answer your question, yes, this is the time that the woman was able to amass this kind of resume together into this discussion. host: we will put the phone numbers up on the screen. hillary clinton is giving her acceptance speech tonight in philadelphia. we divided lines by democrat, republican and independent. dialg for professor robin kolodny of temple university, chair of the political science department since -- department, and hasn't worked in the office

of representative nancy johnson, republican from connecticut, and author of several books and their phd's and johns hopkins. this morning and i have used this a couple of times throughout our "washington journal," but "usa today" put in their opinion section what they would like hillary clinton to say tonight and what her speech should be. here is a little bit of what she writes trait i went to get your reaction to this one paragraph. -- she writes. i want to get your reaction to this one paragraph. i recognize that i am far from the perfect champion in fighting against trumps most dangerous flaws. instead of helping me be the kind of public servant that

i aspire to be and that americans deserve. guest: do i think that she will say? host: no, just letting you see what "usa today" wants her to say. guest: that is interesting. i don't think she would go quite that far because that is the kind of -- it is one thing to say that i have made errors in judgment or that i may have made mistakes, but it is another thing to say that i have ignored advice for i have gone out to be arrogant -- arrogant is a really loaded word -- i would be at least surprised that she went down there. i hope she will back away from the idea of the conspiracy, which clinton has said in the past is a defense, and that is part of the issue that surrounds her. there is a sense of arrogance.

she does not get a lot of do overs like the private world. we could say something and then calm down and say, i did not mean that, but politicians do not get those opportunities. i think it is one thing, as you have heard in the speeches last night, that she is not perfect. actually -- its is productive because you need to own that kind of thing. it is not just that the polls show this, but if you acknowledge that there has never been a person in the presidency there was not flawed, then we can maybe except that this is the case. also, we know from looking at other female candidacies and how women doing campaigns that there is a different expectation for women. that they are not supposed to be at all susceptible to an interest group lobby, that they are supposed to be somehow like your mother, who is fair,

daddynded, just, and sometimes can get riled up and that is ok, but women are not supposed to be. i think there is a big social conception of how women are supposed to be above any kind of arrogance. host: what about the democratic party republican party mommy-daddy party split? does there some legitimacy to that? -- is there some legitimacy to that? guest: that has been present for a while and this election will show a wider gender gap that did not exist and scholars were looking to see why is it that men and women were not splitting along gender lines within parties? certainly, i think with this one, they will be harder discussions and people. i think some men will have more difficulty voting for a woman then maybe they did for and somemerican male,

women, i think, also will have more difficulty voting for a woman. it is not a guarantee thing, by the way, and we will have to see how things go. it seems like women who are like hillary clinton, white, educated, suburban, are moved by an opportunity point. they have more of an identification. this could be me and would i want -- also, you hear a lot of talk about children at the convention, and i think this is especially, for most women, i sub included, an important thing to think about when you think about your own children and their futures. host: on a personal level, when she was nominated, did that mean something to you, not politically, but as a woman? guest: it certainly did, but i have to admit because i studied these things, i already had that

really deep personal moment in 2006, when nancy pelosi became the first be most bigger of the house. i had to miss the moment and i said to my daughter, i did not think that would happen in your lifetime, much less mine. when speaker nancy pelosi was in the speaker chair, she was to heart heartbeat so it from the presidency. that to me was something i really did not expect to see. i think that she will go down in mailry as equal as any before or after her, and it will not stick out that she had a speakership that was different. there will be champions of what she did and attractors, but that would be the same for any of the speaker. host: how do you rate the two candidates' political skills? if you are asked that by student in september, what will you say? certainly say that clinton's political skills are much better than trump's.

part of it is because of the students i have that temple. we are known as diversity university. we never had a policy that prohibited women or people of color from being admitted to our school since 1888, so it is difficult in my environment, especially, to come up with the reason of defense for trump because we have been so inclusive, and we had so many minority groups on our campus, to blame people because of their ethnicity or something that is attached to their socioeconomic status that they are somehow to blame for the country's problems. that i think is difficult on my campus and i would hope it would be difficult on most campuses but even more so at temple. host: where are mrs. clinton's weaknesses, in your view? certainly, as much discussed, the inability to make that personal connection.

the convention as an very much aimed at trying to remedy that. bill clinton had a gift, or he could relate to anybody and people instantly liked him. not everybody has that. that is a rarity. there are plenty of successful politicians, especially before the television age, who did not have that ability. that is the one i can she has to cultivate the most late mr. trump, on the other hand, has exactly that connection -- cultivate the most. mr. trump, on the other hand, has exactly that connection but he is not talking about details. that frustrates people like me because policy is not just some kind of blame this one or change this one day and never thing is we straightened out, it is much more nuanced, complicated repair are a lot of different stakeholders and it is not just at the move is one piece, the whole thing will work. if it is easier to understand in

a campaign. host: let's take calls. professor robin kolodny is our guest. jan is in arizona, democrat line. caller: thank you for taking my call. specific things i want to say. one of them is -- what does physical anatomy have to do it experience? . that is apples and oranges -- to me, that is apples and oranges. the other thing i want to suggest -- for bernie voters to guarantee that they vote for hillary, she has to ban fracking in the united states. i am practicing this by two articles written in "huffington " and the "atlantic" several years ago. and that clinton foundation, i'm not sure if it is initiative or foundation, once the put or 40,000like 4000

fracking wells around the world. she has got to ban those. if she bans those things, she will be elected by bernie's supporters. professorright, jan, kolodny? guest: the first point, physical anatomy has that the to do it experience. i would agree with that completely. but i would point out is women, because of their physical anatomy or because we're obviously thes, right to vote until 1920 and until the 1970's, when you had no fault divorce laws, it was extreme it difficult for women because they were women to get out of abusive relationships and had the same access to credit, things like that, so it is more a leveling of the playing field at issue, not something like how we are put together and has anything to do with the experience but the access of the

issue. on the second one, i am talking to you from pennsylvania, where fracking is a huge issue. if any politician could make a thatment to stand behind says, i want to ban this, which is a process that has been allotted to the 50 states, would be unusual to hope for. i think it is unlikely. host: robert is calling from philadelphia. i have a little notes, why don't you tell us about yourself? caller: my name is robert. i am a segment producer with the radio and i have interviewed lots of politicians over the past few years. i am working with occupy wall street in new york city. there is a team reporting on the outside.

in the u.s., what are the hillary allegiances? hillary is trying to sell this unity thing. two nights ago, the hillary campaign and the convention banned 200 bernie sanders' vp credentials were pooled, that is not unity. that is not unity. there are other instances. -- it is notying citizens united -- host: ok, robert, i apologize. we do not have much time, but we have been hearing all week from bernie sanders' supporters and some of the issues mrs. clinton faces. go. [laughter] guest: [laughter]

obviously, with the sanders' movement, it has shown a lot of attention to the occupied movement and it seemed to be criticized, rightly so, for not being able to articulate its end goals very well. the bernie campaign harness that that againrnessed and are more focused. i think the democratic national convention committee is something apart from the democratic party and even hillary clinton. they obviously want to run a tight show. we have some history of some conventions that have been full of discourse. 1968 is a great example for the democrats, but just as bad was

1980. i remember the picture after the roll call vote when kennedy -- ted kennedy -- would not give up his challenge to the sitting resident, jimmy carter, which is unusual and signs and the convention came down and then it went back up again that said kennedy in 1984. that made it difficult for carter going into the fall. he had other issues. that is the reason why the party .rganization is trying so hard i am sorry if they have actually denied the people with proper credentials to access. that is not the sense when i have been to the two trips to the floors were people seem to be treated with respect to read but i was not in the middle of those kinds of protesters situations. i am certain there has been some error on the side of caution, not just for safety but for the image of the party because after all, the point of this

convention is to launch the general election campaign, so the party would like to get the delegates to focus on that and say that the primaries and those discussions are behind us trade we have made concessions on the platform and now it is time to move forward and focus on november. host: is the fact that people have to raise money for a campaign inherently pleading to special access, favoritism, etc.? guest: of course, this is the system we have. an entirely privately funded system. we used to have publicly matched funds, but not any longer. it means some people will have more access, but i would say to you that we have a capitalist system. the capital will have representation, regardless of any donations that they give, so that means that digger employers -- bigger employers and sector

of the economy will have access, wherever the money comes from. ron: next call comes from in new york, republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call and thank you for presenting a balanced and valuable access for those of us who are interested in the issues that face our country. the things that i have to say, i am on the republican line because i am a registered republican, but i am saying or what i need to say because it is my experience. i worked for a major industrial company for many years. in all those years, there were people whohat i had i had the responsibility of .ollowing their directions

they were women. in both those cases, i had the most productive and enjoyable years of my working life. said, i have to give the other side of the picture. we live in a republic, which is represented democracy. in a republic, you have to be able to trust your representative because you do not make the decision, you choose the representative that makes the decision. the reference -- the president is the leader of this country, and that president has to be a person that you can rely on them doing what they say they're going to do. host: all right. professor kolodny would like to add to that. guest: it is interesting you put it that way because people have talked about hillary clinton and the trust gap and help voters

perceive her. i would argue that mr. trump has just as much of an issue with trust because he contradicts amself and he does not have track record to run on. for any politician who has any responsibility, you create a record of things you have done and you invite scrutiny to those decisions. it is difficult because i think there is an element of having a higher standard of living in general when it comes to issues of trust, the way i described before. if you think about how people automatically respond, you test your mother to tell you the truth and there is something there that i think is a little bit more of a hurdle for her. any hint of a trust gap gets exacerbated for her.

i am a little bit at a loss as it is not for trump quite as much. host: you are in political science and you like statistics. do you think there is a built-in -- i do not know how to phrase this -- gender gap, or do think we are at 100% and do think there is a 4% group that simply will not vote for hillary clinton because she is a woman or a 0% group -- i do not know -- you know what i am trying to say? sorry i am not articulate. guest: what you are referring to as a people said in 2008 about obama and the tom bradley effect. wasn't it the case that people would say, race is not matter, and they go in the voting booth and go the other way? we talking about a gender backlash. is thatould say to you it could be, but my guess is that it would be closer to the 2008 scenario. it is because when women have ,un, and this is a bigger issue

fewer women present themselves as candidates than men do. political scientists have been great work on this. fox,fer wallace, richard they have written a couple of books, and it is about candidate recruitment efforts, and it much that the pipeline is more for women than men, so when women do run, just as much as men and often better, it seems the senate and house, there are certain kinds of places that are much more friendly to the idea of a professional women than others. some areas do not do quite as well, like suburban areas, but also in campaign fundraising, women have not been at a disadvantage compared to men. if anything, all things are equal because there is an equivalent amount of fundraising ability and sometimes a woman

has a bit of an edge. that is where we are with trying to think of this out. also, the last things on this point, more of the electorate is female now and that used to be the case. as -- some women will actually separate from this as well, not say i would not vote for her because she is a woman, but may be uncomfortable with that because of their own traditional placeof what the woman's is an command's place is in society, but she does have a slight advantage going into this election because women have been their turnoutd rate is higher for men and women are larger part of the population. host: next call, donna, new jersey, democr. caller: good morning. i come from a democratic family. i am a registered democrat and i voted for hillary when she ran against barack obama, but as i

learn of the scandal after scandal after scandal, and the events that both the clintons have been involved in, i really am questioning how she is even qualified to be president of the united states. if people are voting for her because she is female, there are so many other more qualified women that have a better trust track record than she does. the one thing that really got me to wear i just cannot even think about her is when she was secretary of state, and the clinton foundation had something ofdo with russia buying 20% -- i lost my train of thought -- it?of -- what was

host: donna, i think we got the andt of her track record, go ahead, professor. guest: obviously, it is a subjective call about whether you think there are other women candidates as or that are qualified. there are other women who have had long 10 years in the senate or as governors, so i understand that point. the counter to it is when you have been as many jobs as hillary clinton has, you have more to scrutinize, and this is the problem. again, it is a judgment call about all scandals associated with her are major, are some of the minor, are some of them put in a certain way that it might not be for a different politician? i do not know, but the more you do, and in her case, the more

different context, four years of secretary of state, the senate, that gives you a lot to go on. it opens you up to the kind of scrutiny. of templen kolodny university, we do appreciate you coming over. it is fun to have the convention in your hometown. guest: it has been great fun and help everyone has enjoyed their time. the water seems to be flowing. us.: thank you for joining we have about 15 minutes left and we will continue the conversation about hillary clinton accepting the nomination tonight. 202 is the area code and the numbers are on the bottom of the screen. the convention begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern time today and gavel to gavel to gavel and c-span will be live. you can watch it live on c-span, every minute, but if you are away from your tv and want to watch it, go to our facebook

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greta in d.c. greta: what should hillary clinton say tonight? "political" talks with the democratic operative and they said that clinton needs to raise the stakes for the election, shed light on what motivates her every day, and make a direct appeal to president obama's folders to turn off for her in november. this operative says hillary clinton's goal is mostly to persuade people whose supporters would be willing to get off the couch and stand in line for her. it is not about persuading a mythical group of swing voters. "political" says that if zero people who voted for mitt romney book for her, and all the people who voted for president obama do, she would win by a margin larger than president obama beat mitt romney. this from cnn, they are reporting on secret service names. now that both the republican candidate donald trump and

hillary clinton are officially the nominees, they have gotten secret service names. trauma is mogul -- trump is mogul. mike pence, the governor of indiana, is hoosier. karen pentz, the governor's wife is "hummingbird." hillary clinton will keep her "evergreen."e name bill clinton will also keep his -- "eagle." "the washington post" reports that the secret service name for virginia tim kaine will be "daredevil," and his wife has yet to be determined. breakfast has been underway. a friend and vp candidate coming to the missouri delegate breakfast, senator tim kaine. a reporter with "the atlanta

journal-constitution" tweeted out this picture, when john lewis met the 102 you will democrat -- delegate at the convention. an honorary delegate who got to cast a vote tuesday for hillary clinton. george bennett, whose a reporter with "the palm beach post," former aghis out -- eric holder to florida democrat and says hillary clinton's chances are "problematic" if she loses the state of florida. also, a picture of ethan jennings, his first democratic convention with parents. giggles with representative glenn graham, who is in that picture as well. tonight neededng t --weets this video, check out this view from the stage where i

speak later today. [video clip] host: greta, i think we will have to start dividing the phone "evergreen,"" and is that right? greta: good idea. host: let's begin with mike in illinois, independent line. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to point out some of hillary clinton's hypocrisies regarding jobs. there is a quote of hers from 2014 where she said "do not let anybody tell you that you know it is operations and businesses that create jobs."

the founder of mcdonald's, one of the greatest jobs creators that, i guessaid you cannot say that hillary clinton is not a job creator. look at all the jobs she created for the fbi. that was mike in oak park, illinois. by the way, we have showed you pictures all week of the national constitution center. we just had jeff frozen here. josh -- jeff rosen here. they have been so helpful to us here. they have been the ones we have been dealing with that the constitution center, so he want to give a quick shout out to them. deborah in virginia, democrat. caller: how are you doing? i just want to say i am definitely voting for hillary

because in congress we have a lot of antiquated, colonial mindsets out there. upgraded obama on the books, where a 12-year-old girl has been allowed to get married to a grown-up and the upgraded it from 12 years old to 16 years old, ok? with consent from the parents. that bill never should have been this long or on the record at all. this law, rather. we need to get rid of some of these antiquated colonialism mindsets in order for this country to be better, ok? host: let's leave it there and let's hear from mickey in connecticut, republican line. hillary clinton excepts the democratic nomination tonight. caller: there is couple of reasons why it feels like she

should not be our next president. she is on the coattails of bill clinton. i wanted to bring up a couple of bill clinton things people do not remember. number one, the collapse of people lost caused a lot of money. i am not going to stay on the subjects. we are talking about immigration, hillary has talked about immigration. sent littlesaid -- gonzalez back to cuba, a child to came to america with his mother for a new life, and he was sent back to cuba. they had government forces ringed them back. that is another one. also sent the haitians back when they were coming from haiti and they were escaping. great immigration policy. now he will go into bills. here is one. -- is still -- why is bill

understand when hillary was senator in new york, someone came up to her, gave her an envelope to get the bill and the next thing we know, the terrorists were freed and pardoned by bill clinton. they blew up an historic restaurant and killed the police. those are only a few i can name. host: we will lead it there and listen to my own in utah -- listen to lyle in utah. democrat. what have you got? about: i am really scared trump's news conference yesterday. host: please, go ahead. caller: what he said yesterday -- trump said in his news conference to a foreign government, hack our country. greta, lastght,

time we will see you doing "the washington journal" this week. go. ta: hillary clinton will accept the nomination tonight and chelsea clinton will be introducing her. our website, www.c-span.org, you can find more details about who else is speaking, including john allen, who served as commander of the security force in afghanistan until 2013 from 2011. hillary, helping to lead the an hour, and she also says that the president of the human rights campaign will be speaking. league of conservation president will be speaking the -- to the crowd. quality caucus congressman patrick maloney and lgbt rights activist sarah mcbride, and

retiring senator barbara of maryland and the democratic women of the senate all speaking tonight, so tune in to c-span for our coverage. host: will it be live on c-span? greta: [laughter] it will be. host: [laughter] in baker, louisiana, democrat line. go ahead. hillary clinton accepts the nomination tonight. there: yes, and i will be on my couch looking at her proud. i love her. and the republicans really need to stop bashing her so much. that is it. steve is in utah, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for broadcasting to the audience in the united states. i am very interested in the -- statues behind independence hall.

i believe it is a john berry, the father of the american navy, hillary clinton's nomination will be an historic situation, i thought we might delve into the historic significance of john berry and the ratification of the constitution. host: you have one minute to do it. he was there at independence hall during the ratification of the constitution . they needed a quorum to ratify the constitution. apparently, one of the senators at the time or in the new nation want thenot constitution ratified, so he went to a hotel down the street, so john and his sailor buddies grabbed him and brought him back and made him votes. that is how the constitution that ratified. host: that is from steve in salt lake city.

anette in louisiana. listen, first, i would like to confront this lady that spoke a little while ago and the others that have said that trump has told the russians to hack. he was just saying that if they did hack the e-mails to pass it through to the fbi. second of all, i do not understand how everybody keeps forgetting all the bad things that hillary has done that was illegal. if any of us would have committed a crime, as many as she has, lied about, covered up, and people making excuses to her, we would be in jail if we did something like that. host: let's hear from nevin in tennessee, independent line. caller: good morning. i do not know if it was addressed, but are both

candidates getting cia state of the world briefings? i do not know if one can be trusted. he is encouraging the russians to look to and spy, so i don't know if both of them should be getting secret briefings because one of them cannot be trusted. host: final word comes from kathy in fremont, california, democrat. go, kathy. caller: hi. i was really glad to see a child in the roll call the north the lady was holding the child. i went to the republican convention in detroit, kansas city, and i was holding my doctor, nine months old, and someone encouraged me to take her further up the hall because reagan was coming by. he just walked right by us, so it was really enlightening for me to see a child there, so i am wondering what hillary will say about family and children.

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