word that means those that have been made poor because of systemic injustice. i have a problem with one saying that i'm in evangelical. and so loud on the issue of prayer in school. and where you stand on homosexuality, women's rights, women's issues and quiet on living wages and health if you look at the scriptures, the majority of the concern when it comes to public square is about justice, how we treat the poor. from a matter of systemic and government policy. so, yes, evangelical -- i'm evangelical. they have allowed people to claim to be evangelical without persons to be a counter

to that -- if you claim to be an evangelical, your critique must be much deeper than i'm voting for this candidate because of one or two issues. host: a tweet from a viewer. is your church tax-exempt? how is it that you can make a political speech and maintain that status? there because when i went for my said i'm not here representing the church or any other organization. i am a preacher, and as a

preacher, i have the right to speak as a preacher and as an american in the public square. commanded -- from a biblical standpoint, religion was never meant to be quarantined inside the church to talk about your personal success and salvation. seminary teachers and said trueece and evangelical produces a quarrel with the world can make world with the way things are. it propheticalled spirituality. the firstot have had labor secretary telling roosevelt you have to do social security, your to help women that have been hurt by this

depression. we would not have had a civil rights movement without dr. king reed inhuttleworth or persons who was killed just before the selma to montgomery march reached montgomery. moral critique a in the public square. caller: good morning. , i would like to question you about the validity of you as a reverend whereby you use those scriptures in that come ast in that book it pertains to morality, bioination, reprobate affection. that is how homosexuality is

described. you want to promote that as an equivalency to racism and discrimination, you are doing a disservice to black people and you are misusing the bible as a reverend. you should be teaching people to repent -- you are supposed to be teaching repentance. guest: i agree, we should teach racism, we-- sure, know that was in our -- because black people know the impact of racism that once you've put it in the constitution or put it in a document that you can go through 200 years of slavery and still not get it out of the veins of the country.

america'se racism is we have to beut against all forms of discrimination because we understand that there are african-americans that are gay. my brother mentions one scripture -- you take one piece out and you lift up this saying the scriptures has a lot about ,ur fault, we all fall short but that one scripture dimension does not trump this scripture. it does not say love just your straight neighbor. it says love your neighbor as yourself. we have ministers that disagree lgbt as a lifestyle. they disagree with same-sex

marriage, but they stand with us who say we are not going to allow hate to be caught up by in our law. the bible says you are supposed treat anyr those -- person equal to being a brother and a sister. don't get isolated, my friend come on that one issue where theone can say to you -- sexuality you ought to be the sex thatut is went on, the judicial immorality , the illicit relationship between big businesses and the theeme court that produced illegitimate child of citizens united. that is a metaphor.

the bible talks about when leaders cater more to the -- the bible in the old testament. it is a metaphor. let's never give up on the 14th amendment. equal protection under the law. i'm looking at this beautiful sunshine -- i love god. because ghana love that son to god allowedause that sun to shine. he didn't say am only going to let it shine on what people or whoight people or people have the green card. the side to stand on of love, grace and mercy and not use religion as a tool of hate. host: massachusetts. the mckay. good morning to you that

democrat -- democrat. good morning to you. caller: this country was founded on the separation of church and state. we have committee preacher dealing with the state -- too many preachers delimit the state. that is a conflict of interest. all you southern preachers that allow a politician to come into -- it isch and preach going to corrupt your church. politician comes to a black church, she is imping out preachers --

watched what you preachers did -- all you voted for hillary before the election even started. that?id you do guest: that is a generalization and certainly not in the generalization of fact. thatve been quite critical has criticized democrats and republicans. i hear the racism in xenophobia -- i hear a candidate stand up and say i and i alone can do -- i made a decision to speak and talk about embracing mrs. clinton but also made it -- wethat no candidate the people have to stand up and engage.

there are some words -- we hold these truths to be self-evident that all persons are created ,qual -- a preacher wrote that not thomas jefferson. in the poste that slavery reconstruction congress of the south. he was joined by reverend publicto guarantee education as a moral and constitutional right i shudder to think where america would be if our preachers had not taken time, from william lloyd garrison, henry thoreau, dr. king, dorothy day, mother teresa, bishop tutu, and so many others. i shudder to think what this

country would be if somebody did not stand up and say this issue is not democrat or republican, it is not left versus right come it really is about what is right versus what is wrong based on the constitutional value. good morning, everybody. the asians have a better employment rate out of all three .roups may be c-span or your group can do a study and find out why the families are

outperforming us in the job market. maybe you guys can do a study on that. find out what they are doing that we should be doing. what we need to do is look at what we are doing in society. we needed a marshall plan in appalachia, whether -- where .here is deep white poverty he said if we don't do it, we would end up in recession, and we did. you are going to have an economic discussion, you have to look at a number of things. if the minimum wage had kept

, it would belation well over $15 an hour. -- we haveporate seen corporations and corporate more thanlaries rise the average worker. that is a problem. there are 64 million people making less than a living wage. there are people who argue if you raise the minimum wage, you will hurt businesses. theyis the same argument make when franklin roosevelt raised the wage in the 1930's. socialist -- him a we have work to do. groundlook at the higher moral declaration, we talk about having a moral vision for full

employment. care as anut health economic driver. rightsants't and a clear pathway to legalization. we talked about fair tax reform can we talk about a green economy and how we must use that to strengthen our economics. we have some real work to do. i don't think it's about pitting one against the other. you have to look at systemic racism, you have to look at the -- in which jobs are often the ability to bring jobs to those communities.

we have to look at what transportation is provided. what we need is a focus on lifting the entire economy. that means lifting from the bottom up. if you live from the bottom up, everybody rices. -- lift from the bottom up, everybody rises. what i was focused on with these other clergy's pushing against the conversation of evangelicalism. pushing immoral agenda out into the public square. the issue we still have not , thed about and dealt with 51 years after the signing of

the voting rights act, the attorney general of this country has less power to enforce voting 1965. then in 52 years, we've gone backwards. after shelby, we've seen the worst attack on voting rights since the 1960's. 1000 filibuster refusing to reinforce the voting we are talking about a congressional filibuster that has lasted over 1000 days. that is a crisis of our democracy. we are here and the voting rights act has not been fixed so

section five would be in place. host: are democrats talking about enough? guest: none of us are talking about it enough. we started pushing. mrs. clinton talked about it in her speech. congress is talking about restoring the voting rights act we have to keep mobilizing. cases that these --n we have seen these cases we need the full protection of the voting rights act. host: ed in greenbelt, maryland. democrat. caller: good morning. i grew up in greensboro, north carolina. of theer was a member

first baptist church in north i want to congratulate you on a very good job -- you are really articulate in the i was proud toe see you at the democratic convention. i grew up in greensboro, north carolina. studied --tist and i i'm proud of you. .ou make it very simple -- one thing i'm very , when you travel around the south on 95 south, you pass through towns that are take youryou try to

broadcast that some places, you don't get c-span -- host: we are running short on time. caller: the right-wing broadcast media -- guest: charles koch spoke to some people sing they were not going to invest in candidates anymore. they were going to invest in building a movement, giving a lot of money to stations that could push that brand of politics and propaganda. we cannot walk away from engaging in the media. we cannot walk away from this moral frame, we cannot walk away from challenging how does the conversation about what is evangelical politics, what is moral politics in the public square. my son is majoring in

is nowmental physics and in law school dealing with environmental policy. protection of our environment is a moral issue. we've been telling viewers about this book, the third reconstruction. fusion politics and the rise of the new justice movement, reverend william barber commit thank you for the conversation, thank you for being here. live pictures of the crowd gathered to hear from donald trump this afternoon. he is speaking at a political rally in erie, pennsylvania. recent polls show hillary clinton leading in that state. 52% of the vote to 42% for donald trump. mr. trump told fox news that he will win pennsylvania easily. he says his popularity with working-class voters, coal

miners and steelworkers would put him over the top. this was scheduled to start at 2:00 p.m. eastern. while we wait, we will show you a conversation on the effects of the affordable care act on insurance providers from this morning's "washington journal." host: an update on insurance providers and the affordable care act.

whether they will have a nice set of choices among different -- different plans or just a few choices going into the fourth year of the affordable care act. host: why are they losing money? it is a really good question and i don't think we know the complete answer to it yet. the insurers say the populations turned out to be sicker than they expected, people are going to the doctor more, getting more procedures. what we are seeing is the population has turned out to be sicker for longer than people expected, using more care for longer than people expected. these junk people have not come into the market quite as much as they had hoped. host: what are these large insurers and they will do in response to this costing them more than they initially

thought? using unitedhealth group you much exit the market. sell affordable care act individual insurance plans in three states. they were in 34 for this year. that is a big retreat. humana is also really scaling back quite a bit. aetna had said they were going to expand to five new next year. thatare saying right now they are evaluating how much they want to be in the 15 states where they currently do sell insurance under the affordable care act. host: what does that mean for the patients, the american consumer and what doesn't mean for the consumer that is in the affordable care act and even those that get insurance through their employer? caller: poor folks in the ,ffordable care act right now

if you have a plan from unitedhealth group for instance, you will get a letter from a some kind of notification that your insurance is going away and come november 1, you will have .o pick a new plan people will need to watch how the plants are changing, with the rates are going to your desk going to be for next year -- what the rates are going to be for next year. a lot of folks get subsidies in the affordable care act. that will help people still afford their coverage. it will vary based on each person situation -- each persons situation -- each person's situation. po le under 400% of the federal poverty limit -- it goes

up if you have a larger family, you will get subsidies to help you court insurance. insurance. as you make more money, the subsidies go away. 138% of poverty depending on the state, there is also the medicaid program -- it will vary state-by-state, but there are subsidies that do help people afford the insurance plans. we want to get out of he was involved in the conversation. if you get your insurance through the affordable care act, 202-748-8000. if you get your insurance through an employer, 202-748-8001. how is the administration responding to what the insurance companies are saying about leaving some of these states?

one thing the administration points out is that the law has had some real victories. there's something like 20 million people right now who have insurance because of the affordable care act who otherwise would not have had it. eight in 10 people who buy through the exchanges to get subsidies. they talked about taking some steps to improve the market, whether that is to do some more advertising to get people to come in, make some technical changes to the regulations, to cut off some of the things that the insurer says his losing them a lot of money -- there is an election coming up. thisately, what happens in

market over the next few years will depend a lot on who is elected as well. sign-up starts right before the election and then ends after the next president takes over, correct? guest: that's right. november 1, the exchanges open for business. the sign-up runs past the end of the year. people will be signing up as the administration is taking office. host: larry in richmond, texas. uninsured. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to say that my employer, under the

affordable care act, has caught our hours to where everyone is working part-time. they saved the cost on the health insurance -- now, i cannot afford health insurance because my hours were cut back, so i'm not going to be insured. i'm waiting for the brown shirt jackboot irs obama hate group to come in and take me down because i do not make enough money to file taxes to pay their fine are supposedly not charging me they will have to put me in jail. host: the fines have increased over the years. caller: that's right. the fines have increased over the last three years. if you do not pay taxes, you -- youy that you may not

may not pay the fine. [applause] >> are you are ready to win? are you ready to win? [applause] >> it is such an honor to be here in erie, pennsylvania. a thousand, 9000 people. unbelievable. -- 8000-9000 people. we are so honored to be working with donald trump in the campaign. they raise $82 million in july to beat hillary clinton. [applause] >> don't believe the garbage you trump, theald , weblican party, all of you

are going to put him in the white house and save this country together. [applause] >> we just had a great poll that came out, the l.a. times poll showed a tied election in spite of the biased media. this man will win, save our country, put us back to work again, put more money in people's pockets. we are in a battle for freedom. it is the same battle that james madison reaffirmed in the bill of rights, the same battle that fathered our country, the same battle we are here today to fight. how many people have been to the world war ii memorial in washington? would agree with me, you get out of it what you are willing to put into it. i've been there lately with my little guy, jack, who is now 11.

you walk around and see those quotes from those heroes -- then, you walk up to that wall with 4000 golden stars on the wall. ,or every one of those stars 100 little guys did not come home to mom and dad. in front of those stars in gold in the like granite come it says here, we marked the ice of freedom. -- price of freedom. donald trump is going to help protect us, protect our country, secure our border, do the things to make america great again. [applause] >> and look at the choice we've got. look at the choice. hillary clinton has a problem with lying. lied, and she lied over and over and over again.

she lied when she said she turned over those work-related e-mails. she lied when she said that nothing in these e-mails were confidential. she lied when she said she only had one device. [crowd chanting "lock her up"] >> let's beat her in november, ok? here's the difference. donald trump and mike pence will tell the truth. they will protect your second admin rights, they will protect our southern border, they will protect the sovereignty of the united states and our great country. the you want four more years of barack obama in the white house? do you want four years of hillary clinton?

the you want to hear from the next president of the united states, donald trump? [applause] ladies and gentlemen, please welcome him now, the next president of the united states, donald trump! ♪ [playing "proud to be an american"] ♪

donald trump: thank you. thank you, everybody. [applause] donald trump: thank you very much. it is a great honor. thank you. [applause] donald trump: thank you. amazing. what great people. we are going to bring back our

jobs to pennsylvania, we are going to bring back our jobs to the united states. we are going to bring back our jobs, folks. i look at the numbers and i've seen what's happening in pennsylvania, was happening all over our country. you look at your state, new england, anywhere in the country we want to go to, all over, it is the same, manufacturing way jobs way down. you go to other countries, they are taking our companies. they are taking our jobs. now workingight harder than it ever worked on 18 years ago, they made more money in real wages -- 18 years ago, many of the people in this incredibly big room -- thank you for being here. you know, is 93 degrees out. [applause]

donald trump: and they still have a lot of people trying to get in. just let them in. 18 years ago, people were making more money in real wages than they make today. some people are working three jobs. they are older and their working harder -- they are working harder and their making less money. that i've beene telling this story over the last -- is better than going to harvard and asking them to do a study. you learned in three minutes. mexico and other countries are building facilities, plants, the likes of which you've never seen. we're going to build the wall.

don't worry, we're going to build the wall. [applause] donald trump: a friend of mine and a supporter command a big supporter, great guy, he builds plants. he doesn't want to build apartments or office buildings, he wants to build plants. i said, how are things going? he said very well. how are you doing in the u.s.? not good. how are you doing in mexico? it is the eighth wonder of the world -- they are building plans the likes of which i've never seen. he's building some of the greatest plants -- you look at for moving vast operations in moving vastrd operations to mexico. , thousands ofbs

companies over the years have left us and we have a few things. we have unemployment from empty -- i saw it in new york state, i saw it in pennsylvania that you were great to me, you voted a big victory for donald trump. thank you. [applause] donald trump: that was a big victory. if i don't win pennsylvania -- and by the way my was talking to our great congressman -- where is he? here someplace. he loves the people and i have to say, of all of pennsylvania, he wants to see this state do well. thank you. [applause] talking,ump: but just back to a few of my friends that live here, we have a few of the friends and we see what happened with general electric where they

are cutting way back. not going to happen. you know why they are cutting back. we don't take care of our miners and we are not producing coal and they don't need to make those big, big, beautiful -- you could call the locomotives, i guess. whatever the hell they are committee are big and powerful and they don't need them like they used to because we don't government work for us. they are not working for us. they are working for others. out general electric goes -- you see the numbers come i see the numbers. i just left parts of virginia and west virginia and the coal industry is decimated. are totally out of

work. asre will be no such thing coal in this country pretty soon. we are talking clean coal. , we haveh the miners such tremendous support in west virginia, the mining parts of virginia, all over ohio. hillary clinton the statement not so long ago, she said we are going to put the mines and miners out of business. so, we are not going to let that happen. we are not going to let that happen. we are not going to let it happen in pennsylvania. a lot of your miners have already lost their jobs, but you have a lot of other jobs that are reliant on the mines. like, for example, general electric. what we are going to do is going to be so special, we are going

to bring it back, we are going to bring back our jobs, we are going to bring back our companies. when a company wants to leave our country to go to another country and think they are going to make their product and because our politicians are byk, stupid, taken care of lobbyists, special interests, they are taken care of by lobbyists, they are taken care of by donors and special interests -- a friend of mine said i can't believe we're talking about a deal that took place a month ago. why can you believe it? it is good for the politicians. they are taking care of by their lobbyists and their donors and the special interests. even though you say we want general electric to produce more

committed they don't want to -- or oney don't want to of the donors for hillary clinton says they don't want to come even know it's great for you and the state of pennsylvania, it's not going to happen, books. -- is not going to happen, books. that is not going to happen, books -- it is not going to olks.n you are going to lose your job, so you will now get two part-time jobs that don't add up to half of what used to make, that stuff is not happening anymore. they're going to build that if i were hereby years ago and it president obama put me and maybe secretary of

keeping business in the united states -- that's my title, secretary of keeping business in the united states. [applause] donald trump: i like the sound of secretary of defense better -- oh, by the way, we are going to build our military. we are going to take care of our vets. we are going to take care of our vets, believe me. [applause] donald trump: but i like the sound of secretary of defense. i like the sound of secretary of the treasury i like the sound of secretary of state, but i would be good at keeping jobs over here. --ld i be wait a minute.

[crowd boos] donald trump: i will tell you this -- the bernie sanders protesters were much, much stronger. they had much more passion, i have to say.

interesting -- if i could speak to them for five minutes, we want a strong military, we want to take care about people, we want good education and good housing and good health care -- we are all in it for the same thing. [applause] donald trump: really amazing, really amazing. i will be your secretary of keeping companies in the united states. likeld go to a company carrier air-conditioning which decided to leave indianapolis and i would say, here's the story coming you think it's wonderful that you are negotiating with mexico come i'm sure you will have a wonderful plant -- if you bill that plant and you fire all these people who were so great to me -- indiana come i won that in a landslide -- the timing was good.

i know what to do, hillary doesn't know what to do. did you see her yesterday? she has no clue what we're talking about. folks, she has no clue. crooked hillary, she doesn't know anything about it. by the way, and she did, she couldn't do it anyway because the donors don't want her to do it. i would go to them and say this is to keep them -- here's the , in this you leave case from indianapolis, you are going to go to mexico and make your air-conditioning unit -- every single unit you make that crosses our now very strong border, we are going to charge you 35% of the cost of that unit. [applause] donald trump: so simple.

35% the cost of that unit, we hope you enjoy your new plant. very hot weather out there, very hot. 35% is coming to us. --e's what's going to happen we've lost thousands and thousands of companies. we've lost millions of jobs -- too late. i should have been there 10 years ago. nobody would have left. -- need the right messenger on your messenger in terms of this movement. you need the right messenger saying it. normally, they would call up whoever is putting the order down like the new president and it would have one of their lobbyists call up and they would say, hillary, i'm sorry, you cannot do that, they give you $2 million. she will say, ok, i will not do that. with me, i'm putting my money up , folks.

rightsraising money for and for the rnc. funded my -- i primaries and i spent less than theody else in terms of primaries and i won in a landslide. paid 3, 5 times more and .hey lost who do you want in charge of your finances? and then they don't like me. some of them just cannot get over it.

get over it. were just having fun. get over it. pledge, i hereby guarantee that i will endorse whoever wins -- all those pledges, they were signed so that i would sign it. and i would have honored it. even if i wasn't fond or didn't like, i would have honored it. take theseg to companies that haven't left -- i'm looking at your numbers, folks. you are not doing too well here. pennsylvania has lost one in three manufacturing jobs and snapped the. -- since nafta. nafta was signed by bill clinton. it is the single

ever signeddocument in the history of our country and probably in the history of our world. one-sidedof the most documents i've ever seen. it allowed mexico and places to do unbelievably well at our expense. i will renegotiate nafta that is a disaster. -- tpp was a disaster. hillary was in favor of tpp. she said it was the gold standard. partnership. i don't think it can be worse than not that, but it's going to be as bad as nafta. nafta, but it's

going to be as bad as nafta. she said it is the gold standard. she is reading from a teleprompter. it is the gold standard -- oh, boy. our country is in trouble. she said it is the gold standard. when she heard me make a speech and heard me talking negatively about it -- they don't talk evaluation, the single greatest tool is countries are that these countries are using -- so complicated, this agreement. i believe in trade deals. one country at a time. we will have one line. if they don't do well and they don't behave themselves and they want to start devaluing their andencies, we write them

serve them a 30 day notice. how great are our police, right? [applause] donald trump: we need law and order. we need law and order and we will have law and order. firemen -- our police do a fantastic job. they are not recognized for the job they do. incidentsve 500,000 come on positive, beautifully handled, one bad thing happens, that one bad thing is on the news for two weeks and it's a disgrace. forhould be very thankful the job they do.

pennsylvania is losing a lot of its business. right now, we're sitting here, were talking -- here's another one. go home. go home to mommy. [applause] donald trump: and your mother is voting for trump! it's true. [applause] donald trump: it's true. by the way, just to interject -- i was told this whole area is democratic. many democrat. -- meaning democrat. i was told that by a lot of different people outside and they said i can't believe that you have 10,000 people, you people outside trying to get in this guy came up to me and said i've never seen anything like it.

he said, you are going to win in a landslide. [applause] because people are tired of lies, tired of losing their jobs, tired of seeing their companies and ripped out and going to other places. they are tired of china coming in and dropping steel all over the place to put your companies out of business, so we have to go to china to get our steel, which is happening very quickly. that is why the steel workers are with me, that is why the miners are with me, that is why the working people, electricians, the plumbers, the sheet rockers, the concrete guys and gals, they are with us. how come you relate to these

people? my father built houses and i used to work in these houses and i got to know the electricians, i got to know the plumbers, the steamfitters, i got to know them all. i liked them better than the rich people i know. they are better. i like them better. and, we are going to put people back to work. it's going to go quickly. eerie has lost one in three manufacturing jobs. i flew over, you're looking at the plants, plans that 25 years ago, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, some two years ago were vibrant, wasno plant two years ago to vibrant, but you see them.

they are falling over. the rain, the sleek, the snow, the wind, great buildings falling apart don't feel bad all over the country. upstate new york as a disaster. which hillary clinton said she was going to fix. the washington post is extraordinary dishonest, and that's fine, but they wrote a -- hillary clinton, when she ran for the united states senate, she said to the people of upstate new york, who were beginning to have problems nafta, of her husband's she said i will turn it around and create your hundred thousand jobs. -- 200,000 jobs. guess what.

she got elected and did nothing. the only ones that benefited with the consultants and their people that helped her out. it is a disaster. upstate new york is right now worse than anything you have in the state of pennsylvania. she did nothing. i watched her yesterday, which is hard to do, because she is boring, ok? [laughter] [applause] donald trump: i watched her yesterday, talking about -- you know, it's putting, i said i will renegotiate nafta. what if you can't make a deal? we are to terminate and get out. very simple. are going to renegotiate different trade deals. , i of a sudden, two days ago will renegotiate trade guilds. that's trade deals. she's going to renegotiate trade

deals the same way she was going to put 200,000 jobs in upstate new york. a total fantasy. i respect "the washington post." you know what they're doing -- the only way she gets elected is that they don't report on her. they have me on so much television. on cnn, the clinton news network -- [crowd boos] donald trump: think of it. , they had yesterday a scandal with e-mails. another one. i'm not talking about that 33,000 e-mails she deleted that can you imagine what was on

those e-mails? e-mails were deleted. and she said, well, it had to do with the wedding and yoga. to yoga and five to the wedding. the lies and deception -- we are running like they run right now in a third world country, folks. you saw what happened. we are being talked about all when they were-- going over the charges against hillary clinton, one after another after another after people,-- and yet, the their lives have been destroyed for doing much less. so now they have a big scandal in new york area aids in the new

york papers, but very little. -- in new york. they have it in the new york papers, but very little. our government is for sale. sale by ament is for crooked person. is they they are doing are trying to not talk about her. take a look. you go to cnn as an example. story after story about trump. trump. trump. trump. trump. announcedday, it was that people are tired of the negative hit jobs and cnn is starting to do very poorly. that's good. i like that. i have to say that fox has been treating us fairly. fox has been fair. but cnn has been catastrophic.

it's so dishonest. but someone was explaining to me their theory. if they don't report on her, people aren't going to know how bad she is. look at her news conference. she hasn't had a news conference in 260 days. that last one wasn't a news conference. that was a few of her friends. they asked her a question. what did she say about the circuit, right? if i ever said that, short-circuited, if i ever said i short-circuited, it would be headlines all over the world. they would call for the death penalty. [applause] can you imagine if i said that i sure consecutive fashion that i short-circuited? i stand appear for months in front of massive crowds and she gets 300 people going to her events. she gets 300 people and then she

reads something from a teleprompter and she goes home and goes to sleep. and then she wakes at then she goes again. and i'm telling you -- and nobody does anything about it. now me, i stand up here -- i'm not looking at notes. i'm not reading teleprompters. not easy. not easy. not easy. [applause] but -- but -- remember -- and if and youne mistake mention something wrong like harambe, the headlines are all over. she can say she short-circuited up here. president who short-circuits. is that ok? i don't want it. i don't want a president who short-circuits. we've got to deal with isis.

we've got to deal with china. we've got to deal with lots of people. they are not sure can circuiting -- they are not short-circuiting. let me just tell you. over the last a while -- i told you big deal. when i said obama -- and of course, i'm being sarcastic. and they know that. i said he's going to collect his m.v.p. award. so i said obama is the founder of isis. [cheering] the founder. [applause] dishonest media people -- they are most dishonest people -- they say, oh, did he mean that? didn't he mean that? in fact, they like him so much because he has been so weak and so bad.

i mean, he let this happen. they had aid states. they had eight countries. 28 countries. they are expanding. so i said the founder -- obviously, i'm being sarcastic -- but not that sarcastic, to be honest with you. [laughter] and they all said he should not say that. they should call him an enabler. call him an enabler. please an enabler. i said, that doesn't sound the same. these people are the worst. so listen, i said the founder of isis. and in fact, very soon he is going over to pick up his most valuable player award. did i say that? i say that all the time. so they knew i was being sarcastic. by now they are analyzing. did i really mean that? how could i say that?

these people are the lowest form of life. i'm telling you. [cheering] the lowest. they are the lowest form of humanity. not all of them. 25% that areut pretty good, actually. but most of them. ok, so here is the story. so eerie has lost a lot. don't leave. i promise. we can fix it so fast. we will stop these countries from taking our jobs. we will stop these countries from taking hard companies. hold on. our job will come back. now i came up with a great plan. i'm lowering corporate taxes so our companies stay. so i don't even have to make the call. the corporate inversions. we have companies who save $2.5 trillion outside the country. they can't. get their money back.

we don't let them. republicans, everybody agrees. why do we not want them to bring money back? because we don't have a president that can sit the leaders of both parties around the table and come in about five minutes, let them say let's bring this money back so we can work it in this country, right? that's what it is. so we are going to bring that money back in. we are going to lower taxes. we are going to keep our companies. and if our companies want to leave, they will pay a nice, big, beautiful tax to get their product back in. as with going to happen. [cheering] so the existing u.s. trade deficit, with tpp participating nations, has already cost pennsylvania 68,000 jobs, folks. no more, folks. we are not going to be the stupid people anymore. we are going to be the really, really smart people. it is going to be america first. america first.

[cheering] america first. [applause] [chanting] >> usa! usa! usa! manufacturingthe bypennsylvania was caused hillary clinton and her disastrous husband's policymaking. every job killing trade deal for decades she has received so much, money. virtually every tax increase put before her. yesterday, you see, $1.3 trillion in tax increases. with the highest tax nation in the land, essentially, the

highest taxed nation in the world. and of the industrialized nations, we are far and away the nation.text and she is proposing a massive tax increase. folks, we can't do it. it's going to make our country noncompetitive. it's already noncompetitive. . it's going to make our. country noncompetitive and we are not going to do it. i'm proposing a massive tax decrease. [cheering] for the middle class. for business. and businesses are going to pour in. and not since ronald reagan as anything like this been proposed. businesses, instead of leaving because their taxes are so high, they are going to stay. i will have to make those calls. i will if i have to. i mean my people will. i love it. i will tell them you're not

moving. mr. president, i would like to move to mexico. you're not moving. or you will pay 35% tax. in that case, i'm not moving. so easy. [cheering] your call industry, your steel industry have been ravaged. worldl electrics of the have been ravaged. over the years, i've watched, for years, for 10 years, for 12 years, for 15 years, beyond obama. and i have watched how politicians have talked about stopping countries from leaving -- stopping companies from leaving. our states. and you watch. you know they give the low-interest loans. here is a low-interest loan if you stay in pennsylvania. here is a zero interest loan if you stay. -- it doesn'tour

work, folks. that's not what they need. they have money. they want to go out. you want to move to another country. and because their politicians are so dumb, they want to sell their product to us and not have any retribution, not any consequence. so all of that is over. and i think you understand it. and hillary can't do it. number one, she can do it because the mentality isn't there. she can't do it. no. the mentality. she said fairly recently, i don't like donald trump's tone. his tone isn't nice. , here we have a country that's been taken advantage of by every country in the world. taken.inesses are being our jobs being taken. everything is being taken. isiswe have a world where is chopping off the heads of christians and many others, drowning people in steel cages, burying people in the sand, and

we have somebody up there who wants to be our president that says i don't like donald trump's tone. [laughter] folks, we better get smart, folks. hey, look, let's see what happens. we better get smart. [cheering] we better get smart. we better get smart. we better get tough. and if we are not smart and we are not tough, we won't have a country left. in one of the things i want to talk to you all about before i leave is our borders. illegal immigrants are pouring into our country. in fact, -- [crowd disruption] i brought something for you people. -- ought i brought -- i didn't want to depress you. ok, look.

the clinton legacy. nearly one in three manufacturing jobs in eerie, pa -- sound familiar -- have been lost since clinton has allowed a certain deal with china to happen. look at this chart. this is 2001, not long ago. this is now. congratulations, folks. i hope you're doing well. i hope you are doing well. i don't want to hurt them. i hope you're doing well. but you know what? you can't do well. when you have a government that is so stupid, that is so incompetent, you can't do it. here's another one, folks. this is what we are talking about. syrian refugees -- we have no idea who they are, where they are coming from, no paperwork. you saw what happened in san bernardino. -- frankly,ppened

take a look at all over the world. take a look at what is happening. if we don't get smart and we don't get smart fast, barack syrian to comeng into our country by the thousands. i have as big a hard as anybody in this room and i want to build safe zones and i want, by the way, the gulf states to pay for it because it have plenty of money and they are not doing much. we will supervise them. opm, other people's money. we will supervise them, right? but they are going to pay for it. because we are protecting these people. if it were for the united states, those countries wouldn't even exist. it would be gone. the power we have is so a norm but we have people who don't know what they are doing. we have an incompetent president. we have people who don't know what they're doing. so look at this. look at this. syrian refugees admitted to the united states on a monthly basis. look what is happening. look what's happening. booing]

now, in all fairness, we want to help people. can't take a chance. san bernardino, they walk in. a start shooting. the toughestst, gun laws in the world, paris, france. they walk in. they kill. 130 people. they wound so gravely hundreds of people. let me tell you because we are in second amendment, right, second amendment. if we had in san bernardino or in orlando or someplace, somebody in that room like this guy right here, right? or that guy with the blue make america great had on? or the guy with the red make america -- or that woman with the beautiful blonde hair -- i wish i had hair that looked like that.

but if we had somebody and they happened to have a gun, san bernardino, they see him come in -- first of all, if they knew there was a gun where the bullets be flying in the other direction, they probably would not come in, ok? but let's assume they did. the carnage would not have been with the carnage was. we have to protect the second amendment. hillary clinton wants to kill the second amendment. [cheering] wants to kill. so here's our charge. i do a lot of these. i love the people. we have such a movement going on. who likes the snake? who likes the snake? do you like him? here we are with this. we know bad things are going to happen. we know as we allow more and more people to come in from these terror areas, bad things are going to happen.

has anybody heard the snake? not that many. should i do it again? fix -- folks.is, take of this. this is what is going on in our country. by the way, we are going to have a strong border. we will have a wall. it will be a strong wall and mexico is going to pay for. and we have no choice. and we have no choice. but think of this. wheres now a situation this was written by our wilson many years ago. i read and that really pertains to what is happening to the united states. and it has to do with being fooled. it has to do with a lot of different things. but when you're listening to this, think of our border. think of the people we are letting in by the thousands. and hillary clinton, you saw those numbers with the charts through the roof, hillary moreon wants to allow 550%

coming into our country. [booing] how stupid are we? so, you're ready? you like it? are you sure? all right. on her way to work one morning, lake, a path along the tenderhearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake. his pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew. oh well, she cried, i will take you in and i will take care of you. take me in, o tender woman. take me in, for heaven sake. take me in, o tender woman. snake.the broken she wrapped him up all cozy in a curvature of silk. then laid him by the fireside

with some honey and some milk. now she hurried home from work that night. , she found arrived that pretty snake she had taken in had been revived. take me in, oh tender woman. take me in, for heaven sake. take me in, o tender woman, side of the broken snake. now she clutched him to herbalism. you're so beautiful -- now she clutched into her bosom. you're so beautiful, she cried. if i did not take you in, you died.inly would have now she stroked his pretty skin and she kissed and held him tight. but instead of saying thank you, that snake gave her a vicious bite.

take me in, oh tender woman. .ake me in for heaven sake, take me in, tender woman, side the vicious snake. i saved do, i saved you, i saved you, cried that woman. and you bid me. heavens why? poisonousour bite is and now i'm going to die. woman, said silly the reptile with a grin. i was a snakewell before you took me in. [cheering]

get ready, folks, get ready. we are led by stupid people. -- and youby leaders know, i didn't need this. i had a nice life. ok great company, a great company. some of the great real estate assets of the world. i may never see them. if i win, i may never see them again. and i love them. all over the world. but you know what, this is so important. and i watched what was happening with the iran deal and i watched what was happening with jobs. and i watched what was happening with trade and china makes $500 billion in trade deficits with us. i looked and i saw. take a look at mexico. you know the politicians say you will never, ever be able to get mexico to allow you to build a wall. i say, trust me. now they don't say that anymore. they say they won't put the money up to but the wall. so easy. , our trade deficit is so massive.

money off the stupidity of the united states. mexico will 100% pay for the wall. 100%. [cheering] ok? 100%. but the story of the snake is what is happening to our. we are letting people in. many of these people hate us. many of these people don't have good thoughts. and you see what one person can do, one sick wacko can do in orlando. and then you see his father clintonbehind hillary with a big smile on his face. [booing] with a big fat smile on his face, right? red hat.s wearing a and i said, i hope that's not one of my hats. i was concerned i hope it doesn't say "make america great again. oh bad guy. bad guy.

-- wrists -- prentice so horrendous son. horrendous son. we have to win, folks. we have to win. [cheering] hillary clinton is run by people who do this very professional. they are very good. they keep her out of the spotlight. she doesn't do press conferences. she doesn't expose whatever is going on up here, which isn't good. to doesn't expose her mind questions. is they they want to do want to try and make it through. we need strength. we need toughness. we need a strong temperament. we need a strong tone. at the same time -- at the same time -- let me tell you, at the

real big, we need beautiful hard, because we have to straighten out health care. obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced. did you see? did you see what is happening with obama? did you see where the numbers are going? 30%, 40% and 50%. wait until you see what happens on november 1. november 1, they are try to delay it. you're going to get increases the likes of which no country, nobody has ever seen. anybody in the history of health , going throughs blue cross/blue shield, they just had almost a 50% increase in their premiums. the deductibles are so high that, unless you get hit by one of those general electric locomotives and you live for, like, a longtime prior to death,

you'll never, ever be able to use your health care, the health care, the health care. because here is what is happened. what has happened. the deductible is so high, you will never get to use it. raises 18% to 19%. but now is going to go really bad. it is going to die of its own volition, but we have to kill it first. it's killing our country. it is killing our jobs. so here it is, folks. folks. we have to win pennsylvania. we have to beat this professional group of people that are running her further own purposes. we have to win pennsylvania. we win pennsylvania, we are going to win it. we are up in florida. we are doing well in ohio. [cheering] and i'm hearing we are doing well here. we'll find out. [cheering] here's the story --

[cheers and applause] here's the story. we have to win the state of pennsylvania. i went to school here. my kids went to school here. we are going to win pennsylvania. if we win pennsylvania, i'll tell you what. we are very much on her way. the republicans do have a tougher path. not my fault. not my fault. for thetougher path presidency. it is just a tougher, winding road. that if we win pennsylvania, we win florida, where we are doing really well, i think we can win ohio. it will be over. it will be over. [cheering] it will be over. on november 8, you have to get out and vote or do some balloting and -- i don't care, look, here's the story. if you're not feeling well, if

your so sick, if you go to to the doctor and he says, i'm sorry, sir, but you've only got itsw weeks left, and november 1 and he gives you the ultimate word, not looking good, you having got long left, i don't care and nobody else in this room cares. you have to on november 8 get out of bed and get out and vote, right? get out and vote. [cheering] cases, youetter of can do your early ballots. all in telling you, now look, folks, i'm just saying your jobs have been taken. your military and all of the other things -- we are going to save your second amendment, which is protection. we are going to get rid of common core. were going to bring your education locally. we're going to rip leo and replace obama -- all of these

things. we are going to take care of our vets. you people in particular, because you have been devastated. supreme court, he said. yes. yes! thank you, who said that? who said that? thank you. look, supreme court, justice scalia, great. he was supposed to live for a long time. he died. this next president could have the most supreme court nominations of any president good pick more justices, -- it could be up to five. it's probably going to be three, probably four, could be five. ok? if hillary clinton gets to put hard leaning left judges on the supreme court, number one, your second amendment will be gone. our country will never, ever be the same. we will have problems like we've never had before. and you will have a whole

different deal going, which we don't want, believe me. so here's the story. if for no other reason, i'm going to put -- and you know i hate through -- and i picked through federalist society five ist judges. i got really good marks. we are going to pick these people or people very like them. [applause] so here's the story. are you ready? we don't win anymore, you people don't win, that's for sure. you just have to look at the statistics, the jobs. we are going to start winning again. we are going to win so much that you are going to get sick and tired of winning. you are going to say, mr. president, you are going to send the conga's men to see me in washington. he's going to say, mr. president, we have to do something. the people of pennsylvania, and in particular our friends eerie,

they are sick and tired of winning. they can't stand winning so much. mr. president, we just don't want to win that much. we really want to give other used to become aware it's good for them and that for us, at least a low bit. say -- i'mng to going to say, mr. congressman, i don't think you know your people very well. they want to win. and we want to win. and you want to win. and we're going to win. much.oing to win so we are going to win with our military. were going to knock the hell out of isis. we are going to win for our vets. we are going to take care of our vets. we are to build the wall. we're going to have mexico pay, believe me, 100%. we're going to win education. we are going to win the second amendment. we are to win all the things we discussed. we are going to win again.

and you're going to be predator country again. we will not be laugh by people -- orer the world for now not knowing what we are doing, for a long other people to come in and just strip us for what we have. we are going to win. we are going to be america first. we are going to make america great again. and it's going to happen quickly. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you, everybody. [cheers and applause] ♪ "you can'tg stones's always get what you want" playing] ♪

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nonpartisan, nonprofit organization working to advance people with disabilities so that people with disabilities can have opportunities just like anyone else. people with disabilities are one out of every five americans. that's 56 million american citizens here in this country. we have no better friend in congress than congressman brad sherman of california. -- been on the frontline on these issues personally. he has been a close personal friend of mine who i have known for an extremely long time, for his devotion, his intelligence, he doesgrity, and what for people, not only in his district, but around the country. op-ed's onished unemployment for people with disabilities. he has spoken out on these issues. he engaged in issues personally.

he has also helped our organization. official guestur in this event. [indiscernible] than congressman brad sherman. thank you. [applause] mr. sherman: miley request is that you be the one to introduce me where i speak in the country. i am brad sherman from california's best names city -- sherman oaks. it is an honor to be with you. i've been invited to speak because of the wisdom i've accumulated over the last 20 years in congress and not just because i got you the room. but by definition, depending on

your definition, those with disabilities are the largest minority group in the country and one of the few that you may join at any point in your life's. at best -- in your lives. it is also the most disadvantaged economic group in this country. of those with disabilities are living in poverty. that exceeds any other racial or ethnic group. 22 million working age disabled adults live in this country. only one out of three have jobs. you've got other experts to talk to you about disability and a community, to overcome the difficulties that you face. bithere to talk a little about how to persuade memories of congress, how to lobby when you don't have a pac. i'll go through some points.

allies and create a coalition. paper to and that member of congress or a senator, you are going to want to say this is endorsed by the entire community. the one thing that will make a member of congress reluctant to theyout is the fear that are going to sign onto your program only to hear from others in the same community that they should have gone in another direction. busyd, keep in mind how and thinly spread a member of congress is. i'm talking about disability issues now. audi working on banking regulation. when i go back to my office desk i will be working on banking regulation when i go back to my office. that, just as a member of congress doesn't know

a lot of what you know, that's because they have to know a lot of things you don't have to know. are an inch deep and a mile wide. members of congress, when you meet with them, want to make you happy. first of all, it is a congenital personality disorder. that's why we went into politics. second, it is an occupational necessity. . we need to make as many people as possible happy. and third, you are the good guys. to when people come to talk us, we always feel that it is not a no-brainer. the people talking to us always think their proposal is a no-brainer. and invariably, what they are proposing is either going to take a lot of political capital and time for the member of congress they are talking to or it's going to have strong opposition in the bureaucracy or the ideologies that run around washington or is going to cost

government money. so there are very few slam dunks. there are very -- there are many more opportunities to persuade, but if it really didn't cost anything and it was spectacular and everybody agreed about it, it would probably be a suspension bill that already passed 20 years ago. there is an, magician who is thrown out of the society for really how the tricks are done. i am about to get thrown at because i want to tell you not what you learn in politics 101, , how tooliticians 101 deal with the meeting, how to deal with a request. i was told this by a politician in his 90's back in my area. i'm sure he's not the only one. he said, brad, never put it in writing if you can just say it. never say yes or no if you can

just nod. never nod if you can get by with a smile. and best of all, see if you can get by with just a week -- a wink. [laughter] what you don't want out of a meeting is a smile or a general belief that the person you are talking to loves you very much and want you to love them but really hasn't, committed to anything. now a lot of people come and they are really happy to see a member of congress. they want a selfie. that's fine. that may be important. haveo many of you incredible stories of how you have triumphed over an impediment. and that is an important story. and you may want to provide general information. but even if you provide that general information, by the time the member of congress has a chance to use it, there have

been 500 other meetings on banking regulations and the jobs of the peninsula and they may have forgotten. askedukon, the question i the groups that i like -- when askcome, the question i the groups that i like him a few have this card and this pan, what can you do? andou go into the meeting say here are the groups in our community. and they all want you to cosponsor this bill. they all want you to put out a statement saying you are going to vote against that bill. we'd like you to sign a letter to the appropriations committee saying to fund this program at no less than $116 million. we want you to sign this. we want you to vote that way. we want you to cosponsor.

is just an want understanding and an appreciation of what you accomplished, there are many people who can provide that to you. only the member of congress can provide you with that letter, that cosponsorship, or that vote. so ask for something specific. don't leave until you get a very specific yes or no. and if it is a no, then don't leave. [laughter] wanthe final thing you may is a letter to an administrative agency saying fund this grant or change this regulation. now, if you are aiming to get congressional action, pass a bill, get an appropriation, you want to make sure that you have a balance to group of members of congress on your side. is if anything, a republican more valuable to you at this time that a democrat. trying to influence

an executive agency, you don't have to worry about balance and the democrat is more valuable than a republican. so keep that in mind. so who you want to sign letter depends a little bit on who the letter is addressed to. and if what you want is a telephone call or something that thecan't see be done, question is who on your staff do we call to get a report on whether you made that phone call and how it went? you may seek a meeting in washington. you may seek a meeting in the district. if you want a meeting in washington, you may just want to meet with the aides. frankly, lorna is here with me. she does all the thinking, planning, decision-making. is to stand behind a microphone and look pretty. i like to think i do it well. but talking to the legislative assistant may be more important -- you may be able to get that

meeting longer and more relaxed during a district were period like today. i recommend trying to meet with members in their district office. first, if you don't get the meeting, you can show up at their meeting and stand up at a town hall and say will you do this or will you meet or promise to meet with us this week, person-to-person, on that issue. another advantage of the thatict office meeting is i have experts in my washington office on various legislative matters, so i don't feel bad if a group meets here in washington with one of my legislative assistants. i don't have legislative assistants in california. if you want to e-mail, e-mail a petition. be sure you list the physical address in the e-mail address.

the reason you will want to provide that e-mail address is you want a virtual cycle. ask them to do something. give them an e-mail list of people who want them to do it. when they do it, tell them to tell the e-mail list they did it. then tell your e-mail list to thank them for doing it. and then tell your e-mail list to tell them what they had done for you lately. the best thing you want is a i send out 400 e-mails to a group of people who care about something. one of them catches me in the grocery store and thanks me for doing it. then i go to laurent and say why haven't we put out another one of those e-mails to the disability community? and she will say because you have an done anything recently and new for the community and and my response is give me a list of what i need to do. so that virtual cycle, do something, read port for something, thank for something,

tail a list of people that you've done it. i like to think my. colleagues would be a virtuous tree in the forest that you cannot hear what it is falling. but they are a group of people who want people who agree with them noticed. would encourage the disability community with several toanizations in a coalition rate the voting records of members of congress. that rating can be not only how did you vote, but what did you cosponsor, and give awards not just because their shelves are empty, but because it gives you -- that's a powerful thing you can do that we can then use to brag to our constituents that we are actually doing something in washington. i look forward to hearing the next. panel. i'm almost jealous that i dug it -- i did get to comment on their stuff because i have the microphone. [laughter]

i'll just make a prediction about the selection. tsunami is,nd trump for the establishment, for the elite, that first heart attack that you make it through. who a all know the guy month out of the hospital is eating cheeseburgers on the couch. i think the elites will survive this and they will go back to trying to pass tpp in a lame-duck session, which is the love that -- the equivalent of having a rib in her on the couch a month after a heart attack. succeed, then in 2020, the elites will have that second heart attack. withat happened this year both bernie and trump was way outside the thinking of what elites thought would happen. allthey will either adopt

as it changes or they will go back to the same old behavior. so i'm brad sherman from sherman oaks. thank you very much. [applause] jennifer: thank you very much, congressman. that's a realist and i would like to invite our panelists to come on up. we have a terrific group of panelists. first is governor quinn with "the daily beast," -- first is eleanor clough with "the daily beast." i'm very excited to have her here because, as a woman who has written about women's issues, she has written of alec and get more power. and now we have a woman who has nominated or the presidency from a major party for the first time. we have clarence page, an

award-winning journalist from the mclaughlin group. he knows what it's like for marginalized community to try and take power. and we now see an african-american resident and the disability community can really benefit from some of the wisdom that the african-american immunity has really brought forward. and orderis a writer who has been here in washington for more than two decades with "usa today." he is currently focusing on the set aim for, but he has covered congress, pretty much everything in this town. he is a journalist of very, very high regard and an extraordinary leader. and then we have a sometimes journalist/sometimes london pundit/sometimes every day, orrin johnson. i think you all know him from aei.

and we are going to have a vigorous conversation. going to talk about campaign 2016. but we are not going to do the usual stuff of who is up and who is down. we are not going to focus in on trump, who said what and who tweeted wife. we are going to talk about the disability community and what is happening in campaign 2016 with people with disabilities, what we are seeing an and we will have an opportunity for people from the audience to ask questions. up the first question to the panel, which i would like each of you to address, which is what are we seeing in 2016 when it comes to the 56 million americans with ?isability

>> other than reminding everybody that it's the largest minority group in the country and the importance of disability the problem that we have in the campaign and in all campaigns is that disability from the out in is not seen as a controversial issue. it is seen as an issue that everybody agrees on. everybody is for disability if there was money, if only there was the wherewithal to do something about employment, do something about housing, to do something about community living, to do something about education. occasionally, when a reauthorization bill comes along, everybody is for it and .verybody gets on it

but there is no controversy. you are involved and said the disability community, which i think a lot of of us are, you see all of these controversies among disability groups. my son has autism. one side and is on advocates on the other hand and there's tons of controversy. but those issues do not bubble up to the political level on the outside because, because they are seen as internal issues. i wish they didn't exist. i'm not sure i am that optimistic about a huge change in terms of disability issues in this campaign. i'm more optimistic about policy changes, depending on who gets elected. and i won't go into that. and i don't see that much of a change from this year compared to past years in terms of the

level of interest in disability and again, the main reason being that is just not a controversial issue. i wouldn't expect, unless you do askthing about it, questions at one of the four debates, some ink that is a wasted question. we will get a lot of nodding and winking and smiling, not the type of brouhaha that helps ratings. >> clarence? >> thank you, jennifer. norman and i were just talking about everything that's wrong media.e nobody criticizes the media as much as media people do. we can certainly talk about that in connection with this current campaign. me is, interesting to you know, richard talked about the controversy. live, breathe controversy, morning, noon and night. nugget of what makes daily

doublyism especially, especially true during a presidential campaign in which every issue, of course, under the sun competing for attention. which ones get the most attention? those that are most controversial. people with disabilities, as an in this campaign, for example, when donald trump insulted a new york times reporter with disabilities. made fun of him, like a school yard bully. it was almost an editorial cartoon of this campaign. the media jumped on it, because it said so much issue, that you've got one candidate who makes fun of onele with disabilities and who does not. you could hardly be more clear. then you've got other issues where i wish people with disabilities as an issue came forth, like, for example, black biggesttter, one of the controversies going on these days.