many of them are, as they usually do, they are moving aggressively on their own, at risk. biotech companies and large and small pharmaceutical companies are trying to respond to the current outbreak by trying to move the candidates forward as quickly as they can, as far as they can, with limited resources they have. in many cases, they had set aside resources from other large very profitable programs for vaccines or drugs to turn their attention to try to work on the current outbreak. in these instances, they rely on the u.s. government to be their partner. and to give, share the risk, to bring to table a shared knowledge on reducing risk and increasing chances of success. barda has collaborated with the industry a number of times, partnering with industry to accelerate the development of vaccines. right now, barda has funds in

to support a collaboration with emergent bio solutions, and we are negotiating with several other countries right now for -- companies right now for their zika vaccine candidates. because of the limited funds we have available, it is very difficult for us to build a strong portfolio of candidates with industry, to take those to the clinical stage and move them through the pipeline. we are fortunate for the reprogrammed funds, as has been mentioned for ebola, for example, to be able to put some vaccine candidates in play. hopefully we will have contracts in place over the next month. unfortunately, without additional funds those candidates will not be able to go very far, and we will not be able to bring additional candidates into the pipeline. in those cases, many of those industry partners, may decide that without government partnership to help them reduce their risk and accelerate

development pipelines, to shift back to their other priorities. they may decide1 that they cannot afford to do it on their own and have to go back to other priorities as well. so we are at risk at this point, haveven't engaged -- we engaged aggressively with the industry. i am not able to partner with them effectively and quickly enough. we are at risk of losing some of those potential industry partners who can develop a vaccine for gangrene, yellow fever, and other candidates and reducing her chances of making a successful zika vaccine. >> ok, great. this of the our last question. i would like to remind you that you have an evaluation form. if you would kindly take a moment to fill that out before you leave today. onto our last question. >> joyce.

doctor toask the clarify when he said this is a health emergency, and not a health care crisis. how you differentiate those two? >> sure. the distinction is health care and public health. my distinction is that this is a public health emergency that is a population-level community focused, versus an individual one person at a time focus. it only becomes clinical when someone is affected and pregnant. all the other upstream stuff has to happen. in terms of mosquito control and surveillance and monitoring and identify mosquitoes and personal responsibility in terms of wearing deet. you want to prevented from crossing the threshold to where it becomes clinical and get a physician involved and got to get there. it's involved -- and got to get

therapeutics involved. >> we have, to the end of our time. it i would like to thank all of our speakers for being with us today to talk about this very important and pressing topic, the zika virus. toe again, a big thank you the foundation and their partnership on this series and briefings of reporters, and i hope you'll join us next time. thank you.

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>> two republican senators were on sunday talk shows this morning. joe sessions who supports donald trump -- senator sessions responding to how donald trump is faring in his general election strategy. is -- he was so exuberant and has a lot of fun in the primaries and was really charging away. he enjoyed that. but it is a different thing to run a presidential election. you are dealing with a different constituency. he has to wrestle in his own heart, how he communicates who we is in the change he thinks he can bring to america. while what he is doing us a filling the desire of the american people. there is no doubt. he had a good bump up after his convention. he does need to communicate.

i think he can more effectively. >> and stay on message? >> i think that is important. if >> mitch mcconnell says the chances that republicans will keep the senate are very dicey. >> it is going to be a battle. no doubt about it. we're so exposed. we have been times as republican -- we have three times as republican incumbent than the democrats. we are others out there working every day. in the end, we will be successful. >> do you think your senate colleagues should be embracing trump are moving away from him? >> at think the republican party needs to listen to what donald trump has been saying. is talking to american people what he -- with a carabao. president who has

the judgment, the temperament, the knowledge, and the self-control to lead our country and to be the symbol of our country. i know that it is appealing to people that donald trump has jettisoned the politically correct stilted campaign speeches that frustrated voters. but the problem is, there is a big difference between that and treating people with respect and common decency. fair and square, in my judgment, donald trump has failed. >> one of the criticisms of those left taken a stand to have, you are basically helping to elect hillary clinton. what is your response to that? >> if i was helping to elect hillary clinton, i would've endorsed her, i would be working for her, and i would be voting for her. i am i doing any of those things.

unfortunately, i cannot support either major party candidate. and i am taking a look at the libertarians. it is headed by two former republican governors who were very successful governors. it would be the easier choice for me because i know them well and respect them a great deal. hear froml be able to the presidential candidates tomorrow when hillary clinton joins joe biden in scranton, pennsylvania. that is where the vice president was born were hillary clinton's father grew up. 12:45l have live coverage eastern on c-span. to ohio for travels a speech on foreign policy at youngstown state university. that is live at 2:00 p.m. university on c-span2. right now, one the presidential race from today's "washington journal."

guest: the maybe again by asking you about where the donald trump campaign is at the moment and a lot of speculation on the fact that he did not release his tax returns and donald -- and hillary clinton did. donald trump coming back saying white -- why not release the 33,000 females -- e-mails. where are things now? guest: switching from a mobilization base routing strategy to going out and talking about to voters sometimes it can be rocky days. days sincead rocky then on how to make that transition from primary candidate to general election candidate. it is been difficult by republican insiders to keep donald trump on message. why? when you're a candidate

in you succeed in using a particular tactic, you often become very infatuated with that. what really worked was being bombastic and being over the top. tellsomeone comes in and you you need to completely change the way you have done it, that can be a hard transition when you look at. host: what is he need to do to turn this around? do you believe the polls? guest: i am a pollster. most of the public polls to hustle and try to get data. in general, when you look at things, you can sort of look at the polls and that is a reasonable approximation with the electorate is right now. host: we have seen it has campaigns, when michael to ,aucus had a significant lead can things change over the next 85 plus days?

guest: and theory, but i am not expecting it. the big difference these days is a consolidation of democratic support among minority voters. democrats are getting about 75% of minority voters that they did in 2012. as a group keeps growing in the percentage of whites continues to drop among the electorate, there is a built in advantage for democrats to change the dynamic. anything could really happen. romney would've had to have done 75% better among minority voters to keep the race close. given the fact that whites only make up 75% of electorate this go around, the republican candidate would have to do 85% better than what romney did in 2012. i don't think donald trump endear himself enough to minority voters in the next couple of months to get close to that level.

host: in our conversation with gary johnson on newsmakers,. we talked about individual states we talked about a state that he think he can make a difference. by the numbers, 21%. that is a combined poacher gary johnson and jill stein in colorado. if you look at the breakdown, not nationally, but in the individual states, could they make a difference between hillary clinton or donald trump winning or losing those states based on what they are getting in terms of the overall vote? guest: i think we will see quite a few stents that will be close. if you have a lot of people -- gary johnson is really hustled and is close to getting on the debate stage, which will be a good change as people are seeing him as a viable third option. there is an opportunity to make changes to say, hey, this is a state divided by a few thousand votes, it can make a difference. said that ifhnson

he is not in the debate, he is not going to win the election. what you think he needs to do? what does he need to do to get on the stage? guest: what is going to have to happen is a support -- the republicans,ainly who are not exactly thrilled with the idea of voting for donald trump and aren't going to be voting for hillary clinton, who will start saying in polls they will be voting for johnson and get him up to the 50% threshold. i think you should be on the stage. he is on the ballot in all 50 states. if you can pull that off, you should be on the debate. what is the difference if you are at 13% in the polls. any third party candidate is going to have a tough time of it. ross perot got a reasonable share of votes, but he did not win any states.

johnson could certainly make the state of utah closer. host: let's talk about the senate because late last week, the senate republican leader, mitch mcconnell said it was very dicey for them to keep control of the senate. 24 republicans on the ballot, that is a lot to maintain. some of these races are states that obama won in 2008 and 2012. what is a challenge? we have partners that they are working on. all those candidates when in saying that i am going to be in a real tough race. the rnc is often not as much as a help. all of them went in knowing that they have to pull resources. grassroots mobilization,

motivating voters. see allyou are going to the candidates make that effort because they understood from the beginning that they may have a presidential candidate at the top of the ticket, and can't rely on a national person. host: a poll showed donald trump a 35%. we talked to gary johnson about that in here is that exchange. back to the poll numbers were donald trump is not 35%. does that surprise you? >> no. i've always maintained that donald trump alienates more than half of republicans, and that republican for me always meant smaller government. that is what bill and i are in spades, smaller government, but on the civil liberties side on marriage equality and a woman's

right to choose and legalizing marijuana and questioning our military intervention, i think that also draws from democrats. we draw equally from both sides. and knows apprise. donald trump -- and knows apprise. no surprise. donald trump alienates voters. guest: i was surprised looking --the average if you look at the seven point reduction. as much as adding the two of the it changes the dynamics, changes both trump and clinton losing support as people have other options. host: johnny says what poll should voters trust the most? what is your goal to poll? guest: i don't think there is anyone poll, and look at the overall average.

i would say just get a general sense. what is the trend. not, what are you seeing, what is the difference, but if theinia clinton is winning last couple of weeks, clinton is going to win virginia. look at what the bigger picture is. and stay away from the exact course race numbers -- horse race numbers. trump needs to be at 67%. unless you see numbers change, he is very little chance of winning.

host: our sunday roundtable. we always want to hear from you. we are divided member between democrats, republicans, and independents. let's go to dennis joining us from shady springs, west virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. ?ow are you doing a host: doing well. does he see the backlash that might happen after all of these voters vote for trump. the republicans have a low approval rating. congress has said it anyway. a year ago they were terrible. now they are trying to blame trump for some of this. is are going to be a backlash if all of these people keep coming out. i am a person that may go out

and vote over democrat over this. i am wondering about that. host: thank you very much. guest: we certainly have. say, a lot ofnly these campaigns, it is running to track shy, you see the senate and the house focusing on their own thing and not running a campaign with trump. concerned, i am not that it is going to be a huge backlash. certainly trump is running on one track. of other lot candidates running on other parts of the track. we have some core issues that bring us together. win, lose, or draw, hopefully we can come together and move the party forward. host: do you think donald trump can win? guest: i think anyone can win.

1998, i was thinking were going to win big. the environment just turned on us and we did not pick up a single senate seat. it is too many times when i thought something in on his turned out not to be the same in november. host: republican line, david. caller: good morning. i had a question about what you think of julian assange coming out and saying that the individual and washington d.c., set the rich, the dnc staffer that was murdered, could possibly be the source of the wikileaks? host: that story has been percolating over the last couple of days. guest: this is all just crazy conspiracy theory.

i did not know him personally, but i had a lot of friends who knew him. i wish people would stay away from this. just have some respect for what happened. his family is still in mourning. this should not be seen as an opportunity to come up with the next theory. unfortunate because it takes us away from talking about actual issues out there. host: donald trump's comments about hillary clinton. your reaction? guest: again, you have times when you see something that is unfortunate. the larger point is that there are a lot of people who think hillary is a less ardent defender of it. i don't think he meant to and i would not advocate that someone

should take up gun violence as a solution to problems in our country. this,but the nra using and spent $3 million in a new anti-hillary at supporting donald trump, let's see what that looks like. >> she is one of the wealthiest women in politics. $30 million. towards the world on private jets. protected by armed guards for 30 years. but she does not believe in your right to keep a gun at home for self-defense. >> i appreciate how hard life is for so many americans. >> she would leave you defenseless. the nra victory fund is responsible for this advertisin g. host: your reaction? guest: keep wasting your money. every million dollars they are spending on this ad is less money they are spending on an outcome.

who is at ad talking to? already talking to people who are voting for donald trump. host: thomas next. democrats line. mourning. caller: good morning. i will appreciate if you give me a little more time aring this session to ask very important question. politics and media in one of the colleges within the washington metro area. i have lived in this country for 30 years now. i would like to ask him after i make my point, mr. hankin, you have a duty to respect the american public until the american public -- first off, you have been so extremely biased. yours possibility is to be objective. you are so biased.

the media has done america a lot of disfavor. smartan people are not as as many people think they are. the media has even more of an important duty to educate the american public. --students, majority of them you are going to come on tv and attacked the public and party like crazy. host: hankin is a republican strategist, so he will have his own point of view. caller: understandable. but he has a duty consistent with the media to tell the american people the truth. he has not been objective enough. he is so biased. he is deceiving the american public. he has not given any accurate information so far. host: let's get a response. guest: i guess you can go back

to the tape. said has been an opinion, it is based on what the numbers say. if you want to know how biased we are, you can go to our website. we released what we've got our outcomes would be in the presidential race based on our modeling and data. if you feel that it is biased, that is your opinion. we are expressing our view on the data. host: susan, good sunday morning to you. thanks for being with us. caller: thanks so much. good morning to you. i have a question for both of you. on the internet, you see pictures of hillary's rallies and you see pictures of trump's rallies. hillary can hardly fill a high school gym. trump is getting 10,000 people. i know the questionable factor is go to a trump rally and see what is going on.

maybe that is why he draws a lot of people. but isn't -- but isn't that novemberelate in when people go out to vote. nobody is really excited about hillary. host: this is the photograph we showed earlier when he was campaigning friday afternoon in erie. serve as how things will be in the general election? guest: no. or we would be cut about bernie sanders being the democratic nominee. it's like if you have more twitter followers are facebook likes. none of this makes any difference. republican line was, all obama can do is fill a stadium, but he cannot get votes , now we are talking about the opposite. these kinds of rallies make no difference. what clinton is

trying to do versus what trump is trying to do are two very different things. , clinton is not going to base areas. she is going into swing areas voters on to persuade the fence to vote for her, and that type of approach does not lend itself well to large rallies. different job ahead of her over the next few months. trump is still focusing more on the bigger rallies, the more base voters. -- themily shared this repentance bending $82 million in advertising. donald trump spitting nothing so far, but a super pac spitting $11 million --donald trump spending nothing so far, but his super pac spending $11 million.

guest: it is fueled in large part in what happened in his primary campaign we didn't spend a lot of money. they are pursuing a strategy that worked for them in the primary. be an interesting experiment about not spending as much on media. host: aren't -- our general elections different from a primary? i think their bind said --i think their mindset is to hold back.

brian and stephan are both here on this sunday offering their perspectives on the campaign. three more months. election is november 8, which is the latest it has been any number of years. let's go to jean. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for giving me this opportunity. viewld like a focused my online because that seems to be the biggest subject of all. guests, weh of your can all agree that probably bernie sanders was the most honest candidate out there. but i would like to also say that hillary clinton's contributions to the global initiative only make sense. i lost my son seven years ago.

between habitats, cancer, and another contribution i make. contributions goes to my son's memorial scholarship. it only makes sense. on lying -- hillary clinton was about one thing. donald trump lies about everything. any man that would make fun of a handicapped man and turn around and lie about saying, oh, i was groveling, when we all know that he was imitating, or trying to at least, a handicapped man. to me, that disqualifies him right there. and that really is all i have to say and thank you for the time. host: thank you. stephan hankin. guest: i want to put them in the hillary camp.

there are not a lot of voters that are in between. most made up their minds a long time ago. ofhave it down to about 5% the american public is truly swing in the peer definition. aboute stories that break clinton's e-mailed -- clinton's e-mails and trump that been the nicest guy in the world, those narratives are out there. we are looking for the stories that change the narrative. e-mail,story about an or not expected to see numbers change, it would be completely different efforts out of the mold. the same thing with trump. mocking a handicap person. saying the second amendment thing was above and beyond his usual rhetoric. trump saying crazy things, we are not expecting to see major movement in numbers in terms of

polling unless something comes out that sort of is bigger in different and is going to change the opinions of people who were actually behind him right now. host: this is a tweet from another viewer saying that they are tired of ads in the stupid d.c. beltway media. guest: that is certainly the velocity the trump campaign is taking. big spirits i have had is that adds and media move voters in a way that almost no other campaign tactic does. host: another viewer says trump is willing to engage in such no ing experiment shows that he is not a serious candidate? guest: i have a slightly less rosy view of the effectiveness of ads on the presidential level. if you see how much money was

spent in 2012 and how little the polls mood and the convention to the election, there is an argument to be made that we --these campaigns don't need to be spending as much because they are not -- it is not moving the numbers in a real way. it was about $30 million per 1/10 of a point in the polls, which is not a great return on investment. what we are seeing on the clinton campaign, they are investing a lot of money on infrastructure. not just on swing states, but blue states that are unlikely to vote republican. what they don't seem to understand is that turnout patterns changing people stay home because they are just completely fed up with the whole thing. this never happened in the past, but that is the one thing that could derail her chances of winning come november. they seem to be fully aware of that and they have fully paid staff in rhode island, maine and massachusetts.

states where republicans are unlikely to win. looking at the numbers, they are investing a smaller portion of their overall they could count on media, which i think is really a smart play for them. trump, the one thing i will say is, i don't know if they are running a smart campaign, but he does not need to spend a lot on tv, he is getting attention without it. sunday, donaldn trump is finished, but trumpi sm is here to stay. there is something there of a lot of frustration. this is the longest we have ever seen the majority people thinking things are on the right -- things on the wrong track.

i think the frustration and mix toworries and being able guide the voter and say i cannot provide another optimistic view can make things better. we have always been a party that has had an optimistic vision. to make a case of voters that, yes we can get the country that on the right track and do things better and different. it will be a philosophy of strategy you will see the seeicans doing after -- republicans doing after this is all over. i was wondering the effects of the talk of wikileaks will have on the election? guest: like i said earlier, unless it is outside of the

perceived norm, i don't think any real effect. thingld have to be some they, something different to really change the hearts and minds. it is more of the same. i just don't see it affecting numbers in any meaningful way. stephan hankin which is a graduate of university of massachusetts. and brian who is a graduate of purdue university. we love purdue university. [laughter] charles in hillsboro, illinois, republican line. good morning. caller: yes. thank you for taking my call. who voted in donald trump? the people dead. any republican --the people did. republican who cannot stand by the people's choice should be

taken out of the rnc not funded in their elections because the people voted for trump and the people will keep voting for trump. if anyone deserves the job it's trump. and electt hillary the judges we need to run this country. they are all upset because they are going to lose their funding from those special people who give them money to make their rules. host: charles, thank you. we will get a response. already been a big party that makes decisions and this has been a more divisive year than others. when you look at how important it is to have u.s. senators representing republican views in the house supporting republican ifws, it is a litmus test of you are not ready to stand arm in arm with the presidential

nominee, you're not welcome. this is not the first time it has happened with trump. we have seen it with bush and other candidates when they have places that they are not as popular. we are often running a to track strategy. his taxke pence saying returns will be a quick read indicating that he won't return his -- he will release his tax returns. hillary and tim kaine releasing there's on friday. will this make a difference? guest: it will make a difference and will show that mike pence has finance is more in line of what an average american is. foras striking for me hillary clinton to release her tax returns. she may 10 $.6 million off paid speeches -- she made $10.6 million off paid speeches.

making $10 million per year is well beyond the reach of any voter in america. it is a strategy that said, yes, we are open. but saying that you understand the problems of regular people, but has made money in a way that no other has a means of making. it is a mixed bag for releasing the tax returns for her. host: is this lining up with a boilermaker? [laughter] texas.et's go to austin, roland is on the phone. republican line. [laughter] if truth is stranger than fiction, how do we know that the clintons, who have received multimillions of dollars from very many countries all around the world into the

clinton foundation, how do we know that trump is not bought off by the clintons, since they used to be friends? and she went to his wedding, or something like that? that they did not offer him a deal, and met secretly, and say look, we are going to try to get you to be president. when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, you are going to mess up your campaign in order to make me win, hillary is saying, and you are going to receive multimillions of dollars as well? it is a conspiracy theory, but i am wondering about the possibilities? i have never heard anybody ring of the suggestion that they are all in it. host: do you think that is a viable theory? think that based upon hillary's ability to

receive money from very many people all around the world, that she -- that they probably before everything even happened, and say, let's strike a deal. you are a billionaire, trump, but you are going to make more billions. host: do you believe that is my question? caller: yes. host: you do. caller: i said it is a possible. that no one has come up. i have that kind of a mind that thinks it is a very good possibility that trump is bought off, and he's going to get paid, and he's going to get protection from the clinton administration. host: i will get your reaction. guest: as a political junkie, i

love political theories, and this is one i have seen. beennk anyone who has aligned with how hard it is to be a presidential candidate, to imagine someone would do this with that intention of thinking they were going to win seems very, very unlikely to me. host: donna has this tweet --tinfoil hat caller. thank you. in brooksville, florida. good morning. caller: good morning, and thank you for taking my call. i would like to ask the gentleman that is for hillary clinton one real certain question. i would love to have him to me the truth because i have been going back and forth for both campaigners. e ashia muslims -- is sh

muslim? and if not, why did she not praise the girl at the olympics, but she did the muslim girl? i just need to know because it seems to me like the muslims are starting to take over our united states. town andeople in around in florida, you know, we have to be very careful. they are talking about letting them come into the schools to teach our children to pray. and as christians, we are not allowed to do that. and i would like for him to please explain that to me and to a truthful for once because lot of things that hillary has said have come back and bit her. host: thank you, june. guest: i am going to go with no on the muslim thing. since we have had our first muslim president in barack obama, it makes is that the next one would be also.

yeah. no. host: dealt -- donald trump outlining his economic agenda and the reported in lies. thursday, the records and responding with her speech and worn, michigan and we carried that event live on her website at www.c-span.org. this from the clinton campaign responding to the trump economic plan. let's watch. ♪ [video clip] economic trump's policy would cause a lengthy recession and have 3.5 you are jobs. mr. trump: weight is too high and we will not be able to compete against the world. i am the king of debt. i do love debt i love playing with it.

i would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you can make a deal. brought in foreign workers instead of hiring americans in your company manufactures company in china and mexico. measured from: we will do our tax plan and it will be great. we will have a dynamic economy again. they talk but i am going to give a tax increase for the wealthy. >> the biggest beneficiaries of the .1% it comes to raw dollars that will be saved. your proposed tax cut would add $10 trillion to the nation's debt. host: stephane hagan, back in 1992, the clinton campaign economy is this stupid. how will it play out this year

that they are doing pretty well, but middle-class voters who feel that they are getting the shaft? guest: it is always a big piece of the puzzle. it come up a lot this year, but in a different way in 1992. this year, we are seeing a lot true trumpo work supporters and who were behind him in the primaries and are struggling behind him now. often are in areas, big study that came out where it is not necessarily low income versus high income, but more in areas where the kids are going to have a tough time exceeding with her parents are social economically. if they are in areas where the kid still have a good chance of exceeding for their parents are economically, they tend not to be. it is a very different dynamic

from 1992. we have also moved into a place of hyper partisanship at a level where these elections are credibly predictable and very few people change because of an outside dynamic. republicans critical of this administration saying there is a large undercurrent in the economy that are out of the workforce, not being counted by the labor department in terms of being unemployed, and you have a record number of people receiving federal assistance come a welfare, unemployment. how do you respond to that? by -- they responded that clearly, economy has been shifting for a while a starting to move further and further away from the manufacturing-based economy to a more high-tech economy. there is still going to be manufacturing, but a different kind of manufacturing. there are areas in the country that are adversely affected by

that. what we are hearing from the clinton campaign, especially when she is in places like ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, talking to the people who are in industries that are moving away and talking about how are we going to soften that blow? differentng to hear a message if she is out in california in silicon valley where they are in the front end of the movement of the economy. it depends on where you are in the country of how this is having and a effect. it is interesting to see the swing states where manufacturing has moved away in the coal industry -- and coal mines are shutting down and things like that. we have swing states for the high-tech economy is booming and it will be interesting to see how each candidate juggles the deficit position between the two -- juggles the juxtaposition

between the two. host: saying there are a lot of towns that have been hurting because jobs are moving out. can donald trump win new york? is that a viability based on what he said, especially what has been going on in upstate new york? guest: seems like a long shot. talking, there are a lot of voters, especially in places like upstate new york, that has seen underemployment and are frustrated with the economic picture, and someone can come along and say, i got some ideas and can make a big difference and get your family turned around economically. for a lot of voters, those economic pocketbook issues make a big difference in their vote. host: what about pennsylvania and ohio? these you really do see sort of blue-collar, working-class voters, who had a tough go in the last 10 years of the economy.

if you can make a compelling case, if you make a big difference to make an ally and not an enemy. there is a potential for turning those voters to the republican party. host: is ohio a must when food state for donald trump -- is ohio a must win state for donald trump? guest: it is a state where he really needs to win. louise is joining us from hollywood, florida. morning. caller: good morning. there are two good reasons i am glad trump is running. first, i am glad he is writing to exposed to the country that such a super demagogue could be elected by such a tremendous majority, and spent so little in the process. and also, the second thing i am glad of, because i am a floridian. i am glad that he annihilated

marco rubio. i don't believe marco rubio is making a good senator for the state of florida. thank you very much. host: louise am a democrat line. thank you for the call. guest: another one voting for the hillary camp and not the -- and not the murphy camp. host: is murphy going to win? guest: everything i have seen publicly says he should win. host: who wins in november? guest: i will say the numbers advantage in terms of the number of seats, the republicans are defending this year versus seats.ts -- 25 or 26 even if democrats have a great , sevenn november 8

senate seats they would win. we would be sitting at 52 which is a par clackum 60. what makes me nervous as a strategist is in the next couple of weeks, trump is viewed as pretty much unelectable. people sayingave company is not going to win. the really wanted democratic senate in their with hillary clinton in the white house? send me back to washington, i will work with hillary. that becomes a very powerful whoment for a lot of voters say i cannot vote for trump, but i do not like the idea of democrats in charge of everything again. that is what scares me. that i labor day, trump is viewed as unelectable in the senate ended it on the republican side can make a compelling argument percent in the back. host: florida primaries tuesday

-- florida primary is tuesday and the debate taking place begetting in late september. pam, waynesboro, virginia. public in line. good morning. -- republican line. good morning. caller: i have a question that i would like to make a comment. i watched the conventions from start to finish. it was interesting at the democratic convention that they played a videotape of chelsea and evocative trump, longtime trump,iends -- ivanka longtime best friends. why would the democrats have that video? host: enter comment? -- enter comment? your comment? caller: we are all being set up by the super rich. -- and the picture

.hat was released they were arming our best buddies. in donald trump really wanted to win, he would've picked kasich as his vice president. there was no surprise that .illary picked tim kaine she thinks that guarantees her virginia. i have never voted for a third party, but i would actively work for him. host: pam, and for the call and by the way, gary is a guest on "newsmakers," that airs right after "washington journal." guest: i know this is a floating

conspiracy theory, but it is unlikely that there is a secret collision between the clintons and the trumps. i would suggest that being a virginia resident, our governor would take umbrage that anyone other than him was closer friends of the clintons. let's go to west virginia. caller: good morning. i would like to say that i have been a democrat. everybody here that i have , but we are going to vote for donald trump. we are not going to be living in poverty. been ince obama has there, they have shut everything down -- our schools, our state is in trouble, people are out of jobs, and everything else.

people -- -- and laying off the minors that had good paying jobs. i worked in the minds for over 20 some years and made good money, and we need to get our state back on track again. thank you. host: denny, thank you. who are you going to vote for then? caller: i am voting for donald trump. west virginia.is i will say that hillary clinton will not win west virginia. caller: good morning. just look at the economy out there. look at the corruption.

and i mean from the top down. be put in front of a firing squad for espionage. people are looking at her to see the country. all she is going to do is pocket more money. and pocket more money into her fund. and why has not the media put for.here what her fund is it is not for our country, it is for her. sister-in-law who is a teacher in houston and says she's quitting this year. she has her masters degree and everything. these kids coming out of the schools, you know my knees graduated and she can't even count without a calculator. this is pathetic. there are no jobs out there. the democrats have destroyed this country.

and why can't people see this? through.ed to make it host: ok. your final point, nancy? caller: we need trump in their. he is a businessman and he will align himself with nothing but the best for our country. host: nancy, thanks for the call. let me take her, and in some of the previous caller's comments. nancy's voice,nd her anger at the establishment and anger at hillary clinton for support for donald trump. we are seeing it on the other side as well. it is any different this year than previous election cycles? trump as a legacy of as as a party talking more about relieving people's economic -- andes, and thinking getting the country on the right track.

there is a lot of people out there that are really frustrated and anxious and feel like there aren't solutions out there. intoturns people passionate people for candidates. >> we just had a showingll that came out a tight election in spite of the biased media. win and he going to is going to save our country and put americans act to work again, put more money back in people's pockets. we are in a battle for freedom. it is the same battle that james about and the same battle that founded our country.

host: in the term and reaffirming the support for donald trump. is it news? unusual primary cycle. busy going to work better? you are laughing. what i think it's going to be how does thes election. a lot of the supporters donald mostly haters of the establishment. had the recovered trump gets it?

how do you recover from that and not have the ability to have the same sort of rational people be in charge pushing the message while also keeping voters like this in the tent. the big difference how does donald trump go down? to blow the place up on the way out? >> for what will the overall turnout be? let's go to david. caller: good morning. if the polling continues to play out like this and there republicans continue to be on the wrong side of the minority

votes and you combine that with the 24 election with mitt romney. is this a fisher? do they realize that it is not going right. there probably will be. if we do have a rough go with a , there is a part of coming together and what we can do differently? is abouto as a party smaller government, individual freedom. we just step on the wrong policies and words and don't get that out. if we have a tough election, there will be a examination. we will need time to figure out

what is a better way. caller: thank you for taking my call. say that i am a democrat and him going to vote for hillary. fall, my statement is if donald trump is so content and confident that he will bring hes to america, why doesn't move his factories back to the united states? expert butlaw

releasing your taxes is a voluntary thing. he could potentially withhold them forever. it would be harder now to make businesses -- decisions about his businesses. i'm not an advisor for the trump campaign but it is going to be thesearder to make decisions. is from lewandowski lowell, massachusetts and that is where our next caller is from. caller: good morning steve. massachusetts,

65% of the state legislature is unopposed by republicans. seatsare nine congress and republicans are not expected to compete in any of them. five of them are unopposed, no republicans on the ballot. painting out of 2000 delegates, trump is at 1% african-american. george bush was getting at least 10%. it is right there but they have not given an offer. they just haven't given an offer. talk.t your kitchen table and you seeveland

some of these guys reince priebus writing around in these big suvs and what are you going to do for the american people? i do think massachusetts is a good example. his campaign headquarters were in boston. this is the state that can be competitive but this is the business of being of political party you have to figure out how to win. you have cycle site you don't do as well. they could be competitive in these places that we just did not have the luck to find this kind of people. what is interesting is that

governor romney compared to presidential candidate romney. type of republicans that is very different than what tends to be at the top of the ticket nationally. the autopsy of 2012, i read this from cover to cover and i was very. -- scared. they understood the problem. will at-- republicans

some time listen to these problems especially if democrats don't fix their internal problems. this is the problem with our politics if massachusetts has nine out of nine members who are democrats that is like a 6040 states. texas -- we have created very partisan districts and we have moved into areas that it is becoming harder and harder to reach device. let me conclude with this question. what are we looking at right now in terms of turnout? we saw a high water mark in

2008. i think we're going to be about their again. what i think it is going to be different is we will see and bow or drop off. voting in going to be their senate and congressional races because they can't bring themselves to vote for either candidate. with a high presidential turnout and other things are going to energize voters and get them. >> gentlemen, thank you both for being with us. c-span's washington journal, live every day with issues that interest you.

coming up on monday morning, we will talk with donald mcneil about the spread of the zika virus here and abroad. then our correspondent from the hill. and james green, on the fundamental mission and costs of the pros. >> vice presidential candidate mike pence was asked about the race moving forward and what to expect on an upcoming speech that donald trump is expected to

give tomorrow in ohio. >> up to this point, he is not offered any details on how he would eat isis so what is his plan? >> get ready. i will be with him on that day. he will do exactly what he did monday is late out his vision for defeating radical islamic terrorism. to be ready for a vision but for real specifics on new leadership in the white house and the kind of broad shouldered leadership that he will bring. people would you say to ?ho have those doubts i'm not crazy about hillary clinton but i'm scared of donald trump. >> i would stay, stay tuned.

vision going to see a for defeating radical islamic terrorism. there was a bristling approach to this economy. i am saying stay tuned. it is still early in this campaign. atwe will have live coverage youngstown state university in ohio on c-span two. before that we will hear from the larry clinton -- hillary clinton and joe biden in virginia. stopn see their campaign life here on c-span. the c-span radio app makes it easy to find. coverage plus podcast

times for our popular public affairs and history programs. .tay up to date next, we will take a look at what to do if caught in an active shooter situation. it is 30 minutes. >> can i get everybody to have a seat please? let's get started. one of the and fortinet realities of life today is

worrying about an active shooter. we have prepared a program for you this morning on what to do if you were to find yourself in such a situation. you will find it a great practical value. >> our presentation today is about a very unpleasant topic but as unpleasant as it may be, your life may depend upon it. our theme today is if you are confronted with an active shooter, your objective is going to be survival. your life could depend upon it. in the world we live in today with the level of violence there is probably no security issue that is more in written to you

but to your staff and family been developing and periodically practicing an active shooter strategy. courthouses, law offices and even schools are high visibility symbolic targets. people thinkot of that simply because they haven't received any threats or haven't done anything controversial that they don't have to worry. that kind of mindset can lead to major problems because active shooter's pick people and institutions strictly for it the symbolism in the message again. what is an active shooter? we define it as an unstable or ideologically motivated individual who randomly shoots

people with the intent to kill them and kill themselves. toy have a message they want convey by death and destruction. once an active shooter is able -- outerate the out of perimeter of your building or office, there is no warning whatsoever. don't show any sign of symptoms that allow you to prepare. if you don't have an emergency response plan in place, chaos is going to pursue. out that the chaos ensues, your employees and staff are going to be randomly pick off. the chance of your staff having is dependentsponse

on your initiative and leadership on putting together an active shooter response. you a graphic example on how important it is. an individual by gary mcknight stepped off the elevator at the courthouse and to be good, kansas. he had no idea that a half hour earlier he had detonated a truck bomb and blew everyone out of the theory -- building. he walked up there and as he did he was caring a briefcase and

shot and killed jean goldsberry. he pushed his way and began walking down the hallway. thrown pipee had bombs along and they exploded. it was deafening. he then walked out of the clerk's office and jumped out of the counter and for the next shotsl hours began firing . bombs anded 12 pipe into the 100 police officers for him to secure the building totally. morning in the next my capacity as the as director

of marshals service. we went up and talked to the clerk first. i wanted to let him know how sorry it was for all the people injured. it looked like a war zone. he said, i didn't have one person that had a scratch on him. we practicing every year. everyone has a dead -- designated location on where they can feel themselves or to make sure to that the active shooter has no contact with him. it was nothing short of a miracle. the judicial conference recommends that every federal courthouse in america have an annual active shooter drill. i have spoken to a lot of the

judges out here that they already have a plan in place. it is very important that you do so. when you put together your active shooter plan, there is one other facet to it. that is making sure your staff has the resources in case disaster occurs. learning toto shelter and put the wedges on the door. you need to make sure you have someone in your courthouse he knows how to operate a defibrillator. if you are able to stabilize them until rescue arise. people say it has a right on it. the average person who has not use it.ined to

aery second counts when person has a cardiac arrest. people, you want to have trained in advanced first aid. have the resources to put a tourniquet on someone to stop the bleeding if they are shot. you want to have a list of these trained to be all distributed through your courthouse. you don't many of want to think about this but you have to do it. let me give you another amount of personal advice. here exercises some leadership role either in their office or in their courthouse. your staff looks to you for the leadership it puts together.

i know many of you here have served in the military or have served in law enforcement have beenwhere people severely injured or killed in the line of duty. i have four of them and i still have scars from it. occurs:thing like that there is a great deal of sympathy that the question is going to arise is a few weeks the family members are going to say what you have done? you never want to put yourself in that position. make sure you can rest in peace that a crisis occurs, you have taken every step possible to try and make it as safe as you can for your staff.

the active shooter strategy is not only for your courthouse. life may depend upon it. the podium over to my good friend. he does a great job. we will entertain any questions you might have. chris: good morning everyone. that i23 years ago received my credentials.

active shooter. when we were think that this paragraph, it was going to be directed at mostly judges and staff members. we decided we wanted to make it more broad and generic and get the information to folks. if you pick up a newspaper and turn on the tv and search the internet, chances are that you are going to be hit with headlines or someone who is killed quite a few people. as you can see, many examples are here on the just late today. the last one being a judge who was shot outside of her home in texas. what are we going to do to be able to protect ourselves? the active shooter is described as an attacker actively engaged in killing people with a firearm.

the duration of the active shooter event averages about 12.5 minutes. the average response time is 18 minutes. a great study was done by the fbi and a lot of statistics that i have was taken there. the active shooter program over the years has developed. it used to be law enforcement could get to the scene and tried to eliminate the threat. tech, the shooter had much greater time. now the protocol is to get in as quick as you can and try to neutralize the threat. 2000-2013. in the first seven

years of that, 6.4 per year. it has moved up swiftly to 16.4 in the last seven years. info fore events and it they arrived. it is usually some of both. 500 people wounded in the shootings. who are the shooters? to be that the mash shooter was typically a male. in nine of those incidents, they start off by shooting a family member before going into the public. six of the shooters were female. 64 of them committed suicide. five of the shooters remained at large when the study concluded. notations, where do they happen?

we think it is mostly in this area are this area. statistically the highest incidence rate occurs in commerce or commercial space that is open to the public. .thers that don't have that shooting hadblic 12 killed and several injured. omaha, nebraska. killed nine people. example of a commercial business not open to the general public was the distributor in connecticut where a disgruntled employee was going to be let go and went back and killed all the people in the warehouse that day.

educational institutes. collegesch greater at at first glance. examplecan see from the is that just as many occurred in pre-k-12. sandy hook in connecticut, a single shooter shot his mom and killed over 20 students there and then killed himself. tech, killed two people in a dorm and then an hour later went into the academic building and started shooting people he killed himself just as the cops arrived. installation, you have nonmilitary and military

installations. ft. hood, texas. tookber of the military the gun to work and started shooting. open spaces incidents, gabrielle giffords. it took the life of one of our federal judges. of worship. it shows how vulnerable churches are. the number of incidents in the same whether in a church or a mall. we have the shooting in charleston that took the life of nine people at church. where will you be when the shooting starts? what will you do when it starts?

before the shooting starts we want to do a bit of planning. always be aware of your environment. locate the nearest exit. there is quite a few doors all around you. signs.r the exit the protocol used to be to contained and neutralize the threat. the kill rate went way up because the police were waiting for the police to get there. 18 minutes average for the cop to get there. now you need to run. get out of there if you can. if you can get out of the room

and get to safety then do so. to do it ashers well. leave your belongings behind. what you have to be aware of is you don't want to look like a threat. if you are running, keep your hands visible. don't be caring your cell phone. follow the instructions of the police officer. if he said get down the floor, get down on the floor. do not help with the people. don't point and scream or anything like that. comment 911 when you are in a

safe place. that is when you want to call. muchsure you give them as information as possible. there was a lot of confusion as to where the shooter actually was. they noticed people running away and they figured that had to be hit. they couldn't tell how many shooters there were. they got into the atrium area and they saw this shots were coming. if you call 911 give them as much info as you can. where you are, where you were when you heard the shooting and what is going on. if you cannot get out of the area then you need to hide.

hide, you want to be outside their. you want to be able to keep yourself covered. now you're hiding place should be one where you can protect yourself from gunfire. it needs to be something that is pretty sturdy. from goingvent them into your space. can you put furniture in front of it? doesn't swing in or doesn't swing out? if the shooter is not targeting you specifically in this random act of violence then do we want to persuade them to go somewhere else. don't make it an easy kill for them. lock the door or barricaded. silence your cell phone and keep quiet.

you have seen the horror movies when the bad guy is coming and then the cell phone rings. than the back i can find you. if you're are in a hiding mode, make sure they can find you. turn off the lights. do butcommon thing to when i am going to the office space they have the automatic lights. figure out how to turn it off if you have to. hide behind large items. what are you going to do that? then you are going to fight. we have seen examples of this in the train in paris.

gunrson was on there with a and they started fighting. they knew they couldn't get off the train so there were very few exits. we got the gun away from them. they subdued him. act as aggressively as possible. keep fighting until you stop the aggression. what are you going to use as a weapon? is there something handy in order to save your life. improvised weapons. what could you use #they picked up and ink pen. the flagpole is something you

could use. what can he use? be creative. don't give up. i was speaking with a young lady a couple of weeks ago talking about this presentation and i was telling them about the fight. fight, shew how to said. develop the mindset that you can survive. don't give up because it is a matter of your life. if they have a gun, you still have a chance. get up there and fight. now that i've scared you a little bit is what did we do now? how am i going to protect myself #? what am i going to do if i'm in

a situation like that? we need to develop situational awareness. know where the exits are. always look for the nearest exit. find the nearest cover. if the shooter gets into this area is there something i can get behind. start making a plan. make your plan right now. if you have your office, what are you going to do? is and iere my exit know where the alternate is. can i go out a different one? how do we get out of there?

how my going to hide? home, i know the bathroom could be a choice. , is there that plan something i can put on their in case there is a need for it. can i have a full iron behind the door? how can i fight off an attacker if i have to do? what am i going to use to distract them? door?n i barricaded the what am i going to do to try and insert my safety? the judge mentioned that it needs to be shared with everyone in that space. plan,r family develops a

if you have a stranger coming in the middle of the night here is what we're going. we're going to go to this location. thesegoing to gather weapons. if the kids or something upstairs, maybe they can't write down -- rest down to their safe place. you're going to try and get out this way. same thing at the office. we want to try and develop a plan with everyone there. --you have an emergency, it chances are it won't be at your desk. shop or inhe coffee the restroom. what am i going to do then. shelter ining to place there?

if there is a threat against a judge for another protective member of the core family, we will go out and do an evaluation of their home. we're going to look at it from three different areas. we're going to look at the outside looking in and the inside looking in. where are the vulnerabilities? where can they launch an attack? the judge that was shot outside her home in texas, the person waited outside. reno,dge that was shot in it was a couple hundred yards away. what are we going to do? we need to see what the vulnerabilities are. them, onet mitigate is whathings we teach

you do with shrubbery and hiding places. what we can do is try to cut them down low enough it is not offer an attacker a hiding place. can we at least recognize that someone might be hiding behind there? can we put motion sensor lights that will come on? we want to mitigated as much as we can. stay alert and trust your instincts. if he feels that, it probably is bad. if your spider senses are tingling, then it probably doesn't feel right. walk back and take a look. are if you're having

those feelings of anxiety, something is wrong. to the people around you. we are so focused on what we are doing that we lose track of what's going on around us. we have to at least look around and see what is happening. practice daily. it means to continue developing your situational awareness. ok there is a next say. where my going to go? where's the exit? scan the area ahead of you,

behind you and all around you. get a sense of what is happening. times.f they knew something was getting ready to happen. continued to develop your reaction plan. happensre thinking this , develop your plans. am i going to go out this way or the other way? that is a broad overview of the response plan. who has a question concerning an active shooter? >> >> if you have questions or

concerns, i hope to develop a guide for a self assessment. i'm going to try and put that on the website. i have some sign up sheets in the back. i'll be glad to develop that. thank you very much for your kind attention. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> i am trying to find the panel for the next segment. we will get started in just a second.