>> in a couple of minutes, c-span's prime time programming gets under way tonight. techcrunchtion of the disrupt new york difference that took place in may. under way getting here as our prooim time lineup gets started on c-span in just a moments. first, some political headlines from the day. hill.one from the the headline, meet the new team trump. the article stating in part: polls, republican presidential nominee donald trump has entrusted his campaign to an executive with brightboard ews and g.o.p. poster who has trusted campaigns with newt gingrich. teven bannon is trump's

campaign ceo, which puts him in campaign.he folster, kelly and conway, who served as a trump advisor will step in as trump's campaign manager. about that at re thehill.com. hostrvative radio talkshow charlie sykes weighing in on the donald trump e campaign tweeting this out: trump's campaign has now entered phase.pice he knows he's dying and wants to urround himself with his loved ones. #breitbartceo. this one from the republican role call, the republican chairman of the senate judiciary calling for the fbi to release confidential notes bout the hillary clinton investigation, just as the clinton campaign is calling for their full release, the fbi much of the s material available as possible, senator charles grashley said in

a statement. the iowa republican added: the fbi has made public statements describing its handling of the case so sharing documents in those statements wherever appropriate would make sense. right now, the public is at a only part e and has of the story. again, that from rolecall. congress is in its summer break. he break continues until september 6 when senators and house members will return. right now, spending time in and a couple tes of tweets today, this one from arkansas congressman bruce westerman tweeting pictures of a visit with students in his oftrict, the fourth district arkansas. he spoke to students at tailor elementary school's men in program in whitehall, arkansas. this tweet from san diego congresswoman susan davis sending out congratulations to parkview little league team for making it to the little league world series.

parkview will play johnston, in pennsylvania. again, the congress on break until tuesday, september 6. that day andreturn you can watch the house live of course here on c-span. gavel to gavel on our companion network c-span 2. techcrunch disrupt new york conference. may.as held in this year's conference, we'll hear from app developers, enture capitalists and activists. the events held in brooklyn, new york. york. >> you go first. okay. thank you. >> hi, i'm katie rupe with techcrunch and dennis, his wife is about to have a baby any runs off , so if he stage, it's not because i'm asking a tough question but it's legitimate reason. >> i put my phone right here where i can see it, just in

case. okay, all right. i understand. i guess that's kind of a big deal. we have jeff here, the incoming -- or the new ceo. what's the chance over the ears, you started out as a location-sharing app. and now you have two apps, a yelp competitor and the swarm. you're also a data company now. that. get to all of but i wanted to talk to you about your new roles. as executive chairman i wanted to find out are you so involved with the day-to-day? how are things different than before? >> day-to-day at the company five days a week. of things going on at foursquare both on the business and enterprise side and trying to make sure that we get to focus on the things that represent the reasons that we started the company. so a big reason for the role switch is that as it matures and turn into the amazing business we knew it would come, extremely talented

business leader and he's running the day-to-day operations and true to our e stay goals and achieving our objectives. will foursquare differ under your leadership. dennis and i have been partnering almost two years now. a little morether than 18 years ago. we started taking these consumer apps and tried to bring them with the magic and set a goal to be a $100 million in the next sess couple of years and we've seen a direct path to that. art of it was earning our way in the world by figuring out how we create a sustainable business o we can keep invest nothing these great consumer products and keep innovating so in the built o years, we've enterprise and media products in last year grew 160% revenue. and so now they're the majority revenue of the company. work every dayto thinking about how to guide people to that next great, you

burrito places they would never have discovered or that artisan ice cream place that has the salted carmel inside the cup cake. gets us up every morning but we also know we have nvestors and we just raised 45 million with morgan stanley and ventures and others. we have an obligation to be here the next 20 years inventing these things. balance is the hallmark of what dennis and i 20e been working on the last months, is to build a sustainable, successful business the future inventing of how mobile changes in the real world. the ability to discover real world or play a game in the real world. found interesting use cases for data, it turns out if people tell you where they're a lot about them depicted the ely decline in sales of chipotle

e. coli scare and you found out about iphone sales ahead of time. you utilizing this and monetizing this, exactly? jeff: we have a whole suite of analytics products. insights.t when we predicted how many iphones apple would sell based foot traffic to apple stores or predicted mcdonald's would have an enormous quarter finally all their breakfast data, we've seen the foot traffic of the world. we thought chipotle would have 30% year over year decline in sales and it was 29% when it out. we're helping people figure out what's happening in the world. in it's easy because we work cag, that 93% of all consumer pending happens in the real world. there isn't a cookie in the real world. so we really have this chance to at the consumer products but kind of be the nielsen of the real world and

we're building really sophisticated analytic productos that. it's foot traffic data of millions and millions of people round the world, we protect everyone's privacy where at the easiest level, predict cultural how traffic e changes where a bunch of academics in the u.k. were using foursquare data to predict which neighborhoods would gentrify hich we hear in brooklyn is awesome to be thinking about how neighborhoods change. so all these cultural trends of the real world we're able to and if you can't figure out how to build a profitable into ss with that insight 120 countries, you should go home. can.we know we icate -- from is this data voluntarily people checking in or how is this data being used. dennis: it's not just data from people that are checking in. one of the things we're really about that we're built over the last four or five years and it's technology called

pilgrim. it's a code you can put on a device and depending on where the device is and the signal we exactly where it is and where it's been. that piece of technology is what's powering all the foursquare.e in how do we learn about the places you've been to so we can make smarter recommendations. that piece of technology makes it so when you check in on swarm, we know exactly the place you're in. also, for the 100,000 developers that are also building on top of that we're able to give them this ability to snap to the place all the time and services in the background is really what's powering this tremendous source of data which jeff is talking all of our feeding analytics tools. it's much more than hey i have to press a button in order to understand that. big part of our value proposition to partners and advertisers and the developers with is that we built this technology that allows people to understand this in the background. for those ld add trying to understand how big foursquare is becoming in our mission, you know, you don't foursquare user per for us to understand.

we have a network of thousands of apps. because of our understanding of the shape of 100 million places we've crowd sourced around the if nike wants to find 18 million americans who work out three times a week or go running every morning and reach to them, e can enable that, both foursquare users and non-foursquare users through our pointed partnerships and if burger king wants to figure out if people happen to to shake shack and mcdonald's and offer them a deal apps, we canands of enable that and we can measure whether the apps work. thanks to ilgrim and our sort of crowd source shapes he world, our immediate business, which is the biggest ine, more than a third of consumer brands are advertising buying and advertising digital through foursquare. katie: with all this revenue,

yet.ou profitable jeff: when we raised 45 million n january we set a goal to be profitable $100 million business in the next few years. focus on goal and we it every day and we'll get there. raising u mentioned some money, and it's a tough environment right now and it was slower fundraising than in previous rounds in the past. why is that? dennis: i think the business previously was valued on this foursquare app would grow up and be a facebook, and i er, a snapchat think what we started realizing a couple of years ago, that apps. the destiny for the the destiny was to make these things that we have tens of love.ons of things people we don't need 100 million or 300 million people using them every to be a der for it profitable business. when we talked to investors about what is this business? is the business evolving and what will it look like two years

from now. what we have been working on rest of the foursquare team has been how can we build with tons sumer apps of data and insight into the real world, how can we monetize hat data through our relationships with develop ers d enterprises and advertisers. and that's been working out us.astically well for as part of that process, we had to go do a little bit of a reset expectation evaluation, but it's a really good spot. jeff: yeah, we were able to business the way you think about a public company, you know, real revenue, eal business now growing fast and so we're able to evaluate it. before, it was kind of evaluated early, so we're getting comfortable. morgan t investors like stanley and others, they -- they won't invest unless 10x their iple and money so it's a testament to the 20 months ofe last the business environment. and it's hard in this

t.vi here's a lot of start ups out there. unless you have enormous potential, you're not able to we're proudunds, so of the team and how far we've come. katie: what are you planning to do with the new funding? i understand you might expand to asia? to : yeah, well something ote is thanks to the funding, we've hired 35 people both here in new york and san francisco, so for the representatives of city, we're continuing to be company and ork headquartered in soho. we've added top people from like apple, eccentric hired the and we also head of an asian company and asia.g offices in a ceo is coming over to run abd for us. we have a ton of customers in asia. customer. grab taxi was a customer.

and forth going back between singapore and shanghai to build up our partner network $45 million we raised in january is letting us staff up in ngineering, particularly enterprise and media sales to get the word out at the pace we've been growing. dennis: also worth noting, we are continuing to hire so if interested, go to foursquare.com and check it out. at that, get a job. does foursquare do well in asia? people using re ? arm and foursquare in dennis: we've seen it all over the world. we've been doing this seven years now. we've seen different pockets at different times. southeastica, brazil, asia, russia, have all been extremely very big, very quickly us.wing for and so -- that's funny because i think a lot of companies focus

just on the u.s. and really a chunk of what's happening and what's interesting in the technology and the business side is happening outside of the u.s. world. so we're starting to think about in the next couple of years how work for us. to jeff: like a twitter or facebook, lots of companies, the global. is mobile phones are the internet outside of the u.s. for the most part and many parts of the world users in ow, we have dennis countries like mentioned, like turkey, mexico, and others.n, korea but a lot of what we're aiming to do is find those passionate explorers who love mapping the world and discovering new places or playing the swarm game and mayor and if we can get a few percent of every society in the world to participate in crowdsourcing model then, you know, a samsung or a, you wi chat or others are using all the mapping technology provide. the way twitter does, twitter in

is you f countries now tweet and tag that tweet and that's powered by foursquare. pinterest topin on a specific place, you're using technology ata and to identify where that photo was taken and snap it. o we're doing those kinds of services for a bunch of asian evelopers like samsung, ten cents and wi chat and others and jeremy will be focusing on this terprise uses of global technology footprint. katie: when it comes to consumers, what do you think for are using foursquare these days? i know there were mayors and not mayors. dennis: each app has kind of its own personality. make swarm the fastest and easiest way to check in just for something fun to do during day, earning coins, as well as a life-blogging tool. people love that. it shows the quirky personality

nd we're seeing a fantastic traction there. 8 million check-ins every single day. that's a tremendous amount of companies can put to work. and it's the same story from the beginning. people e how do we lead to amazing experiences and how do we do that, whether they're actively in the app searching something or just walking around, can we ping them and have their phone buzz in their their phonehey open and it's like oh, i'm supposed to go across the street to this place because foursquare told me to do that. really, we're the best at building a lot of those types of services. foursquare and swarm just continues to do that. mentioned there have been 9 billion check-ins on and i understand there's 15 million active users today, foursquare n both apps combined,; is that correct? and the web site. dennis: i was surprised when i heard those numbers. a lot ofave heard that people say after you switch the apps that some people didn't

switch over to the new app. that a late decision in hindsight? would you have done anything differently or was that the direction? jeff: i think splitting the apps was the right decision. the app was getting complicated bloat and did we had two stories. and now we have two stories for two apps and works really well. the only thing we'd do differently is we did a lousy it to people explaining our thinking. this happens for this and this happens for this. maybe we'd do-over do a little better job on the messaging but that was 18 months ago, maybe longer than that. if you look at the numbers, particularly from data we're theecting and how satisfied users seem to be, all those things have rebounded so we're excited about the position we're right now. jeff: i would add, last year, we focused on bringing the magic swarm, some of the magic that made the original foursquare game so compelling tripled the s. we check-ins per user last year and was, you know, going back, bringing back mayorships,

bringing back the coins, but the so much fun dialing up the quirky nature of it and so ow you have the triple x stick ers and if you visit enough coffee shops or artisan cocktail bars, there's all kinds of little games you'll see us continue to dial up this year. all-time high global daily check-ins so we're growth.d at that but there was definitely a dip during the split. split was s the already being implemented so i can't say i was there for it, deeply as stand now, we talk to consumers, the value of a city guy that gets to know pings you when you're in a new neighborhood and sit down at a new restaurant. to be a game t could be a great guide for explorers versus people who really want to have a social in the real ce world and be inspired to try new places and share locations that swarm is. each have deepened their experience, either as a game that you play in the real world as a city guy. so it's ultimately now both are

growing but it did take a hit a while. katie: so there was an initial user decline but you're increasing engagement these days. i saw you have some cool partnerships on foursquare. on deliver.com. you get food and also alcohol. so many different delivery businesses already, why would people go to foursquare beyond there? rs out jeff: i mean, i think we have a bunch of partnerships like uber others. dennis: and open table. jeff: open table has been true for a while. i think it was less that we would join the app other than those companies came to us and wanted access to foursquare users and we wanted to make it more convenient for them. so i don't think that's a huge area for us. it's more like thinking about usefulmake the apps more and open table is a great partner, but it's very hard to search for a restaurant on open personally, i find, and so but if you have all the ecommendations from foursquare which knows the places you love to go, you know, knows my wife

organic farm to table, you know, learns my inlaws love and potatoes and it tailors where they go. when they go to pick a it's just all n that more convenient to then book it through open table. but open table doesn't guide well to where they should discover. katie: there's so much more i want to ask but just one last question. the future of foursquare, should day, acquired some possibly? dennis: i mean, it's part of to get do with financing this company on the road, to be a strong independent company. all's what's happening with the leadership changes and the brand new people we're bringing in. we found a business that works well.y consumer apps are doing really well. everybody's excited about building this stuff. in a couple of months, there's always an opportunity for people like well would you go and work with this company? we have those conversations from time to time but a big part of hey let's go ike make this business work and

that's what we're set up to do. good luck in your new roles and congrats on almost father.new us.nis: thanks for having [applause] you guys eck in with later. you.k thank you. ll of you, i'll be signing babies later. our next guest is somebody i'm really excited about because those tv body has food that are like comfort for them, you know, like the one you just have playing in the background all the time. that's "the office" and house b.j. novak in the which is a big deal. please welcome to the stage b.j. and dez with the list-up greg.ur moderator, [applause].

>> hey, everybody. jordan kind of covered it but to recap, dez and b.j. are app.cofounders of the list dez was the senior vice president of user experience. comedian,s a stand-up an author and you probably know writer, executive producer and costar of "the office." he was ryan howard. for coming out here. >> thanks. >> elevator pitch style, one or quick, whates, super is the list app? >> first of all, as we're today, we are now list. we decided to drop the "the" and "app." we were going to really bombard once.e with change all at so we're now list, l-i-s-t. people can communicate in this extremely elemental form of communication.

our head.e lists in we all have lists in our phone, and we have our whole life in easy to communicate format that for some reason people haven't had an easy way to share. so this is a smart creative friendly substantive social way o communicate through the list it special? kes b.j.: other people can do it. is the es is t special people, something that looks and feels great and intuitive and herefore has invited a lot of people that are really making up his incredible community of very not only diverse people but humor and as of personality and of, you know, saying hat you do know unexpected things, so i think we gave a format that i think, you i won't take a bow on behalf of deb and the team, but

and is very friendly intuitive and simple and the community is what makes it special. started, we rst weren't really sure what was going to be the predominant lists eople were making about. all we knew was we wanted to categoricallycall agnostic form where it wasn't driving too hard down any one vertical like places, tv, books, thoughts, opinions, whatever it might be. basic simple ry template and just kind of see what happened. about whether as it would be a mix that was more weighted towards practical or towards self expression but we didn't know what to point towards to say oh, this is going to be the predominant theme and i think hat's really cool is that something happens when you don't tasks. think about asking a very simple question like greg, how was your day today? tell me what happened. you to do that in a paragraph structure versus a

list structure and it really hanges and makes it so much easier and you kind of -- it lets you write and get your to ghts out without having worry so much about the structure of the thought. a g: just to give people little bit more context, what are some of your favorite lists? what are some of the things making in it y that you enjoy? devin. mother's day, out jack and favorite users, black made a list, i can't emember the exact title, i'll paraphrase. it was reasons i miss my mother. his mother died and it was a felt list tful heart about kind of why mother's day was hard for him and how it was all centered around not having talk to while he was driving. it's a thing in l.a.. we need something to do while we drive. it ranges all from very kind of personal emotional lists on spectrum towards, you know, very kind of fun but still lists l but practical like my wife hallie makes all the time about her favorite

photographs various places along the hikes and hey here's some cool spots you should check out if you ditch this trail for a minute. it's practical or not, there's this very, very to most personal vibe . the lists b.j.: there are over 250,000 you can the platform so imagine the different ways people will go through in the early days. kiooh ra, who many can of, end you've never heard an adult star, she made a list of how i prepare for work. list of emotional and physical stuff. if you ask anyone in this room, a quick d you write me essay on what it was like on "disrupt"? are you serious? but if you ask, could you list your thoughts on the way here? really easy so that's why we expected it to be

a little more practical but it's you list your if favorite hikes, you're actually saying a lot about you and that marginscomes out in the even of a recommendation list. greg: i know you guys had some news and you mentioned the rebranding from the list to the with the dot in the middle there. what else is there? devin. are officially live on android. we've been live about six months launched aay we just fully functional android application. live now? at devin. live now on the play store. cool. very how'd you two meet? date.blind i guess the tech version of a blind date. i had a very basic idea, you kind of opened with, we love lists, every time we say i'm omeone and working a list up, you say, i love lists. allis there not a place for our lists. that was a place i had worked it

out and thought i was pretty hey, done and asked around, is there someone you know that you could -- i'd asked every in tech, do you know anyone who could build this with me and i realized very it's like finding a spouse or a show runner in tv. it's the hardest task in the to cofounder. i met people who introduced me to people who introduced me to introduced me to people who suddenly i found this person who i knew or like you spouse or show runner, all right, this is the guy. how do i convince him? met in new york. greg: what was that like for you, dev? devin. it was probably a lot -- greg: was it surreal or just out of the blue? devin. of the retty much out blue and i'll be totally honest, i'm not a huge tv person and i my wife who b.j. novak, told me. and i had never seen "the office." up and, i don't know, we immediately just kind

of bonded, just like personally, like we were both wore the same watch and ordered the same kind and i don't know we of gel thered and as we started to talk about just the basic thought of the idea, i guess the thing that struck me pretty immediately and really excited that, you know, the list has totally redefined publishings. i don't think there's been anything that's taken enough explored. ly greg: okay, at first that's done. to ugc and ing that creating a platform to the can take and people that version of their own buzz circle you'd same surround yourself on twitter or instagram. i don't know, i had that kind of concept in my head by the end of the dinner, and it sounds great. i will also say as a celebrity, you tend to be idiot or a genius

by everyone who meets you and me was someone who treated like a guy with a pretty good idea that wasn't necessarily great yet. o that was what i was looking for, sort of somebody who took his seriously and didn't exaggerate either side of it. greg: do you think in your case it helped, being a celebrity, or hurt you? b.j.: i think it's helped in terms of people pick up the phone and check out what you're doing but i don't think it gets you that far. it opens the door and there's a whole array of bouncers at the door, and then you have to have something to show. but it certainly opens doors. find yourself er meeting people that are weary because you're a celebrity? because there have been other have handled at this differently. they have someone come to them my an app, cool, i'll slap face on that or slap my name on that brechlt i was extremely elf-conscious about that reputation and i wanted to do my to be the d be ready least smart person in the room. i think if you follow those two enter a new en you

field, that's as good as you can start out. conscious of not being that and of really building it and trying it before we even talked about it, really getting somewhere first. i was if anything, oversensitive to that, because i do see people think that things i'm from the nd background to assume it will be hard. iowa app launched at the end of last year so it's months, almost exactly. b.j.: yaup. greg: how long were you working before launch? .j.: we started talking about it at the beginning -- late 2015. devin. and then we were in private data while, about seven, eight months, and we really kind of grew out the over the quite slowly course of that time and people, you know, in stages invited expanded that nd way and just like inviting nviting inviting, and that

translated into something really cool because it let this kind of build its strength and positivity and in a cocoon of sorts and what's really exciting and awesome to see is that it hasn't missed a step since going live, that ethos and that personality really has held through public launch and growth. has a creativity to it. greg: so right when you guys you had a pretty usual out of ial base, right the gate. how was that coordinated? b.j.: i asked the people that i 8 or 10 here were celebrities on, they tend to get recognized. t wasn't a disproportionate number, but i think it was really fun to have it be this rivate data with a bunch of celebrities kind of walking around. it was like a party where you recognize some of the people it really think helped set the tone looking back f a really equal community

where it didn't feel like people inauthentic. no one's publicist was making a list. fear right or wrong that lena dunham was going to anything because at that point, it was a very small group. eventually, when it got bigger, that attitude is still maintained. has having the celebrities at launch helped in the long run? came for those people have they stuck around? as i said before, it's great to hear anthony bordain is get posting and once you there you realize he's making a list of his favorite spy novels, restaurants.ite so i think it's great. i'm proud of all these people. it's not like i went through and just picked everyone out of a magazine, like andy cohen is a funny guy. it's not like there was any other thing behind that. i think that that

spirit -- yeah, it's exciting. it's exciting to people you recognize but at the end of the day, it's like anything else, it will not take you the distance at all. devin. i think it also -- the celebrity of it, n't a huge part but i think it's really representative of what's so crazy cool about the platform is who, you know,ple you have some understanding of and it's largely on a surface level. the lists they're making and it's just a categorically in-depth look into who they are, it speaks to the type of expression that the in form brings out everybody. but i think when you can idea that t with an you have or an understanding that you have previously of makes it allink it the more stark. b.j.: i think it sets the tone a of who is on, that you know. ou mentioned a lot of celebrities were write ers and funny people and creative people tone of nk it set the

that being the community. devin. and the data, i think these big have a tend', they're personalities so it can seem like they're a larger part of the community than they are and of the day, end probably only i don't know maybe 250, 300 people of note that are actually on the platform. 6,000 folks, it was so they were a pretty small part of that pie. reg: you guys mentioned a number earlier as to how many le were on the platform and how many lists being made. repeat those. devin. upwards of 250,000 counting made, about 150,000 users and, yeah. it's the early days. it's exciting. it really is. greg: you're already on iowa. android.re on what's next. is it the web? b.j.: that's another thing we definitely wanted to mention. web, we are trucking, my goal is in the next four to six weeks to a web product. greg: a web creation product?

devin. it's going to be the full suite of capabilities that you iowa and android app. reg: we hear web is the new mobile. it's the name change to list. b.j.: we didn't want it to be an app anymore. and it made sense that 250,000 iphone screens tells us what could be done when you havectually be at work and time or search, et cetera, we're excited about it. devin. share.so just time there's times when it makes more sense to be on your laptop. sure. how has the product changed for your users? them?have you learned from what product changes have you made as a result of what they're telling you? b.j.: i think as we talked about earlier, the biggest thing has just been how like the-expression is core use of this product. people expressing something that emotional, and that can be raw. that can be very positive. just like very often

if you read a list, there's a solid chance it's going to have some thing to do with me expressing like emotion, i'm feeling, what my thoughts are in a passionate so we've really tried to embrace the strength of the community, i guess. up e always trying to come with new ways that people can et exposed to new people that they might like, get exposed to lists they might like. connections digital are very strong they're making with each other and they into even so far back as the data, these organically ups.ed meet someone made a list, hey, everyone in l.a. in the data, you want to meet up at a bar? and like a hundred people showed up. and yeah, more than anything else, we just embrace the vibrancy and the of the nectivity community and try to architect. b.j.: and we're doing a list ive show in brooklyn at the

doll house where a bunch of people will read their lists. the idea that it's a very expressive form. that's kind of where our resources have been headed for. at the beginning if you asked us months out, six there may have been more of an emphasis on oh, if you type in a auto fill, et d cetera, which a lot of places do and we may have some day but an expressive of community and i think we've been listening to that. reg: so with regard to making transitions into things like list live, could this be a new talent finding platform? writing these people these lists and you're bringing them on stage. nurturing? b.j.: oh, yeah, my favorite last list at the live show, this guy dennis flin, never heard of him before, met came out to l.a. to do this. if you look him up on the latform, all he does is thoughts of a... and it's an internal monologue. a really bad spot. thoughts of a children's irthday party magician who

realizes mid-trick that the rabbit in the hat has died. 80-item list son you're just going through it and, you know, the crowd loved it. that's a great piece of talent, yeah, there's really incredible people and we're going to bring them out on monday too. greg: cool. good. j., back at the end of last year, you were on a pod cast. admired i've always tech from the outside the way people always admired hollywood. it was a glamorous cool thing. so you've been in it six months now, a little longer than that, on the data. glamorous as you thought? b.j.: it is to me because to me, and center and i think being star struck by someone who is actually inventing the future, someone from sidewalk labs, like that to me is so much more interesting a slightly who has

different take on a horror it's reality in a way that is being dreamt of in real time. i think it's way more glamorous. devin. totally see that. the cofounder was back stage across the room and i was like i man.nothing to say to this i'm like so shocked, so unable say. ink of anything to b.j.: right. he invented something and you talk to instead of a person. greg: so what's the end game here? what is success with this project? a profitable big thing? is it just building a really cool community? you go, all do right, we've done a really good job here? >> when the web site crashes. i would say if there were the place everyone thought to put the list. any list that says something or share selves something they want to share, i'd love it. on a product level, it would be

best place ut any list. we got great vas. silverman of n pinterest at a restaurant and i asked if we could come in and talk to him and get advice we really admire pinterest. his advice was think about independent of the product, what as it was app, called at the time. if in 10 years you couldn't it, what would it be. we all talked about it and thought it would be a structured self expression. so whatever that means to people, if it's a structure that easier, to expression us, i think the best place in the world for that, and that means, you know, as our name says, a list. so i think if this were the best to put their yone thoughts, their feelings, their advice, whether it's best food to order at this or thoughts on being a widow. if it's all here, i think it to d be a wonderful place explore. greg: is it a business eventually? do you care about that?

i mean, we're talking about creating something very valuable, so there will be a way to make that how very valuable but right now i think we're focusing on creating our hearts know in is valuable. devin. that's obviously something we think about but right now trying focused on just building a product that people really love and keeping this community as it can be as it grows. i looked around a little bit. i couldn't find it. have you raised any money for this? venture capital? >> yeah, we raised a seed round last may. okay. can you disclose how much? devin. yeah. raised $2 million. greg: okay. cool. devin. so a handful. of lists can be the most popular. is it the one from celebrities? really good stuff from users? .j.: i wouldn't break it out binarily that way. whether it's from a celebrity or not, nd more often than

it's not. it has to be personal, i find. like it has to be personal and revealing. it has to be a little bit like putting yourself out there, you know, rable, and i think what people are really excited about is the response they get from that. social media trades in currency, right, some form of currency. i think is great and so efreshing here is that that currency is authenticity, is eing truthful, being more expressive. putting yourself out there and kind of hoping people will catch ou, i suppose, and that's what people are being rewarded for and i think that's what they really are enjoying about it. yeah. okay, cool. so one last question. we'll end with a fun one. michael scott on "the office," if anybody doesn't michael scott made a list, what would be on it? 99 : he would probably tag different people and ask if they'd like to be his friend.

laughter] greg: that sounds right. reasons i'm the best boss. actually still never stopped having ideas for "the office" and i've made a couple of lists "office" ideas i wish we could have done for office 2012. beats by dwight, like the headphones, i wish we could have done that. done a e could have snowden-inspired episode where yan unleashes everyone's information. i'm glad you asked that. once you write for something like that, i think those live inside ways you. greg: yeah, never leaves you. right on. much. you so [applause]

new more from this year's conference inrupt new york in just a couple of moments. irst, we check up on what some members of congress are up to during this congressional summer break that ends next month. house and senate back to work on tuesday, september 6th, here on c-spange and c-span 2. from roll call today, ryan to cover 12 states house after or the his overwhelming primary victory week.sconsin last speaker paul ryan is hitting the campaign trail to help some of is house republican colleagues and g.o.p. congressional hopefuls replicate that success. yan will visit eight states between now and the end of august to host fundraisers and bring some of his republican star power to incumbents nd newcomers running in house

races, counting events that the speaker held in colorado, evada, oregon and washington earlier this month, that will bring his august campaign travel states.o 12 a ryan political aide told roll call. e also caught up with a member of congress making a visit to the iowa state fair. member of congress just happened to be the democratic nominee.idential senator tim kaine, i should say. this tweet from politico. even a veteran politician like tim kaine can resist the picture he butter cow, there at the iowa state fair. tim kaine, interestingly enough, accompanied by agriculture who tary tom vilsak reportedly was in the running for the vice presidential running mate nod on the side.ratic also, we've been following

everal members who have been reporting on natural disasters states. districts and there were the california wildfires and, of course, the louisiana.ooding in this tweet from congressman charles bustani of louisiana, who represents the third district there on iling flood insurance claims, this tweet, not sure how to file your flood insurance claim? steps, andme helpful he adds some information filing y of fema on flood insurance claims in louisiana. and their embers families have been affected by the flooding in louisiana. tweet from brend an boyle, democrat of pennsylvania: my wife's family in louisiana have been stranded because of this. loss.house is a total praying for all affected. follow e continue to members of the house and senate and their activities during this

congressional break. members back on tuesday, september 6. of course here on c-span. now, we take you back to the disrupt conference from new york. it took place in may of this year. year. >> hi. hey. >> morning. it's so early. early. it is >> thanks everyone from the west coast for waking up at 3:00 a.m. you.ust to see >> of course. >> obviously. >> suck down that coffee, guys. me.hey're not here for they're here for you. >> for those of you who don't know, you should know. know, maybe you're at the wrong conference but gify gifs and ch engine for it has a suite of tools that let and create gifs you can do ng else as a gif essentially. so i guess how i wanted to start

gifs have been around a time. why are not only publish ers and platforms so excited about it, but consumers. growth in the popularity of gifs has just been extraordinary. wondering why now? >> i think gifs, the essential they're just , set them on tv. technology hasn't been there to share it. exactly like the time when the invented, we s was could put out books into the world. photography was invented. to capture -- before then, you had to paint. and now the mass population put out gifs or photographs into the world and ou've seen recently, tumblr started all of this. shout out to tumblr for being

he first platform for allowing gifs to play natively inside a social network. and since then, photo shop, cut, after effects, all tools that were pretty esoteric film-making industry were available to the rest of the world and now we're able to cut them across the internet. so essentially, the demand had lways been there, but the technology just hadn't caught up. and only in the recent years has the technology been available to ut these moments of human culture and information and send them out to the internet. and that's why you can see, you about over a billion gifs a day. of the demand of people wanting to share these moments and wanting to reference to this kind of information and share them out to their friends and express themselves. we ool and, you know, when got on the phone to prep for this, you're like, you know, we could talk about competition but any.n't really have let's not do that. and so i think it's a good time or us to talk about

competition. integer, and even google to an extent. everyone wants to be part of this market and there's no doubt you guys are very dominant in it. but i know you guys just acquired gif-grabber? it's an awesome tool for making gifs from any video on the internet. put it on your screen -- you can buy riffy but you google.uy it's super cool and quite the headline but when you have another search engine that is so the ful, they don't have same database as you guys do or the same tagging system, et google but you know that wants this space. >> yeah, well, i think the gif you guys t to give some like reference on it, it's still small. doesn't know what a gif is. most of the world doesn't know what a gif is. there's room enough for

to be part of the gif space. what we're trying to do is make the entire space popular. in gif e who is working technology, we want to work with you, like everyone. tried to do our best to work with everyone that's out there. technology, like gif grabber, and it's an amazing giphy capture. pretty much anyone who's out there. gifs, it's working in a huge industry that's going to happen because we're basically just making paragraphs move. and so if you think about the photography landscape of how many companies are part of that industry, there's room for all of us. so we'd like to work with everyone. competition, you know, in terms of gif search engine, we're the largest gif engine. everyone has a particular -- that's what we do. other people are keyboard companies. people are headlines on the internet and social networks. search engine. >> absolutely. let's talk about giphy cam.

hand if you know what giphy is. that's what i thought. up.e's five or six hands giphy cam i thought was like a genius idea and it still is, but i don't hear people talking about it. expected it to really take off. can you give us kind of a giphy cam? ort on i don't hear a lot about it anymore. >> yeah, giphy cam was our first gif camera so it's an app for your iphone. itwas awarded -- apple named one of the best apps of 2016, 25.of the top it's won a lot of awards. filters ake a gif, put in snapchat and other things and send out a gif to your friends social. it's very popular with a small set of audience. as soon as people know it exists, more people will start using it. boomerang, snapchat filters. pretty much everyone is coming into the space which is good popularizing the idea of these short moving images across social networks

and across messaging. so yeah, i think giphy cam was one of the first to kind of really start the trend but now ton of other apps. and as soon as more and more eople are exposed to these applications that you can actually take a gif on your camera and send it, live photos version of another a giphy cam. they just call it something else. it something s else. but essentially they're just short silent videos just like out into the t world. >> and that goes into the whole idea of like gif has kind of as this term that isn't -- it's not always a gif right? pe, >> it's kind of like the kleenex offacial tissue or the xerox paper. when it was invented in '87, it format ecific specifically used for putting, sites on construction your web site, that when you were constructing that you were never going to build ever and some web ill see sites. i think i've seen a few that still have that thing on it.

ut now it's just kind of used as a catch-all phrase for any 3-5-second video that loops and, you know, we have 20 ifferent renditions of every gif that comes onto the site, photos, so we support them. gif really is about the time versus and the concept the actually format itself now. just like photographs aren't like silver plates anymore. they can be prints, digital, anything. >> swinging back towards giphy one of the interesting things about it was you guys that built a feed into app. in fact, there's no giphy that has that social feed aspect to it and i when my question is, you're taking something that is inherently fun, right, gifs are expressing fun and yourself. it's not a utility. it's not like uber is to

transportation, right. we don't like need it. we want it. and so when you don't build that i want to into it, understand that decision making process, right. there's not a whole lot of giphy. ss to >> yeah, stickiness is a new utility. o you have two options on the internet. you have the option of creating a social network and then trying out how to get people to stay there. so giving them utilities. or you have the option of utility and having people come use your utility every day. is theogle, for example, most popular site on the internet but isn't a social network. they tried it but it hasn't worked out. other social networks have tried myspace, had a lot of people and tried to build the utility and that got boring over time. has never been about building a social network. if you're going to go to a facebook, ork, go to go to tumblr. that is the community of people talking to gs and each other. we want to be a utility.

we have the plumbing that takes all of that content into other places of the world. pinterest says they're not a social network. they are a utility. fundamentally s first a utility so people can express themselves finding gifs internetng them on the if that makes sense. >> it does make sense. social network. >> if you ever started -- i had a social network before this. hardest thing to do. shout out to everyone who's ever made a successful social network. that is a struggle. facebook is kind of like it is social network. it's very hard to compete with facebook. utility, can build a that is like -- and people use it every day, that is the something to build meaningful on the internet. > can we talk about like for a little while. when you talk about giphying and

he night of the oscars and you see lady gaga walking by leon d dicaprio. you had that up in a matter of seconds. how does that work. entire team of editors on the west coast and east coast that sit and make moments officially for our partners as they're coming out. there ahead of everyone because we actually have the those the time making gifs. a example, oscars 2016 has officially y so we make all of those for them. we are the curators and creators so we're hoping all the partners that are having events that want gif versions of those create the contents. right. what would you say is the biggest vertical in terms of giffing. is it sports? entertainment? >> right now, it's just what you popular would be in culture. right now, it's a lot of award oscars, the vmas, the

emmy emmys. golden globes. peris the nk that cas number 1 searched gif on the world. of all the content scene is from tvs, movies and celebrities. there is money changing hands. alex: we are doing a lot of work to make gifs popular. a lot of people do not know what it is .

we are to get to a point where our deals, where we will cut all and let them out in the world for publishers to come in right articles about, they are your contents and they allow us to do this. it is a trade of work. you have raised a ton of money. we are about half a million? i think we have about 75 million. jordan: you are not bringing in any money. there is not revenue deals. what is the revenue plan? start of all of the people, we are still in exponential hockey and growth. it is not slowing down.

market?is the gif all of them are into accelerating the growth. growthin the pre-revenue phase. it is hard to. we have grown 2x in the past two months. if so, we will need another round of funding. jordan: there are a number of ways to do that. i think we should zero in on that. alex: ultimately we're going to make money. jordan: obviously. since they went it had a revenue plan in place. we have been thinking about this since day one. .ne is getting election deals there are a bunch of different revenue models. the major ones are mobile messaging. get ad an into mobile

messaging? people are sending hundreds of millions of messages a day. have you donated advertising into mobile? gifs are great for that. 8% are from tv, celebrities we have deals with. mobilerld where format, itnd and ad is a perfect medium. if we are serving a billion plus some advertising can be there and we can charge for getting the content into the. we do a lot editorial work to bring it all in and have those to all of the network. basically what google is doing of hyperlinks, if they were a moving image, they are

making billions of dollars. we are doing it with highly more engaging images. right. i went to get back to the mobile messaging bit. mobile messaging in bringing a native ad is very interesting to me because the idea that i could flag one of my friends friday bean and it shows to whiskey, it almost like under the radar. of that do not do any right now. we will work with partners in the future. we see a world when people are testing gifs through any medium, expression,king up hungry, send to a friend. adt is an entire kind of ecosystem.

the is trying to figure out how we start making revenue on mobile messaging and the entire messaging platform. gifs are the perfect medium. models have to be explored and we will be exploring the incident. jordan: i agree with that. my question is have muhtar kent that? how do you know what gifs they search for? when you think about launching an advertisement network within messaging which would be the themselves, how do you target at that point? what information do you use? alex: we use a life in doubt on where people are viewing gifs. opa we know that

tender is looking for a bunch ofque. flirty gifs. any of thate information. that is to get the search better so we can serve better content. in the theater, that can be used to serve better advertising. we also have our own tools that can directly send them as well. we also have a website that has a lot traffic. information on users coming in and there's the island. ir search patterns. jordan: the keyboard is a good point. if you have to messaging have made you know a lot. alex: we have a lot of info on our website. we have a lot of info from our partners coming in. jordan: i want to talk a little bit about giphy keys.

took so long? i waiting for this for so long. friende did find a version since day one that we define different versions and day one. they were never white right. -- quite right. we have invested in a couple of keyboard company. slash is an amazing keyboard. there have been some good keyboards. view,e found our point of out our view. we wanted to be minimal. it is not like you have to switch. once we discovered that, it was time to put out our own keyboard. the keyboard market is kind of

small. anywhere that you can distribute a gifs we want to work with other partners to build apps. we how are a lot of other keyboards out there. we do not believe that one keyboard will live the entire space. we think everyone will have a rd theyr a life -- keyboa like him we want to bring all the content to them. a lot of partners are using the api to distribute content. one thing we talked about it the are partnering with flash to launchn the fall an entire branded keyboard platform. platform wherel you can create a couple of buttons and create a branded

keep her. we are offering all of our partners three rented keyboards keyboards.nded that is a good thing for the gif ecosystem. you can make customized experiences for people. jordan: we are pretty much of time. oldast question is a age question. is it gif or jif? alex: we officially support both but -- jordan: that the most that minecraft i heard in my life -- diplomatic craft i heard in my life. jif is the old saying that people way back in the 80's talk

about it as a nostalgic thing. we are trying to reclaim that term as gif. it means a totally different leakingan the 80's under construction sign. it is a new generation of content that are being sent out. if you are sending second messaging, you are probably sending gifs. jordan: yes, say gifs. you heard it here first or the hundred time. fre toe go. a big round of applause for alex. we are going to shift gears in a violent way. tore going to go from gifs privacy and security that makes sense. be the government was protecting us from big corporations.

it seems like they've corporations are trying to protect us from the government. panelis thatwo are going to help to take us through this. a big round of applause. [applause] all right. welcome. thank you. us the ceo of hacker1. for discovering vulnerabilities. withwe also have nate that with the electronic frontier foundation focuses on cryptography and brief the issues.

bitnt to start off a little broad. thick question i have is why do you think we are seeing an of the privacy of people information? when we built the internet 20 had to bow step. now let connected to the world. is hitting the web system. we must protect them. it is a huge shift. nate: every photo we take are all documented online. we are still really bad security. we barely understand how to secu devices like all of you have in front of you. startedarely getting

with this. the fact that companies like apple are starting to your it out is causing a challenge. speaking of fact, we have apple and the fbi. a facebook situation in brazil. was toulatory agencies act as a consumer advocate to corporations. it seems like many companies are now marketing themselves as to being that asked kenyans of privacy. robuste do not have a legal model. -- european got out and runs it in front. in the out of the regulatory framework, we need something to

protect our data. that is the pressure that apple is reacting to. it deals with the department of defense on one end. what do you think are the most common vulnerable systems? marten: we have the department of defense. we have mover. general motors. all of them know there is no organization strong enough so it does not meet the health of hackers. the open of your program and they will tell you. everybody has vulnerabilities. every single system vulnerable. i you have been have to

really do not know it yet. had been half or you do not know it yet. you think they are more willing to be open? about it.lk you gave your plan to the public. we are seeing a reversal of that. it provides an open chart of systems. our companies were willing to the open? i was there witnessing the open source revolution. to be properly secure is to be open about your vulnerabilities and to invite you do not know to help you. i agree 98%.

2%, one is oracle. if you have not read the blog do so.lease they deleted in morning after she posted it. she is the chief security officer. she said do not mess with our mef or reasonable, soo or ue you.me soo the other 800 pound gorilla that nobody was to talk about our embedded systems, medical .evice, voting machines they have never have to worry about security because they did not have network or a radio. internet of things --

matthew: you get the internet of shit. shit.nternet of interconnected cars and now it could be the apocalypse. they are not wrong. those with no security staff do not know what to do with able mobility report when i am counseling a hacker or companyer, the software are nearly always seamless. i will always knows what to do with able mobility report. even oracle knows what to do. medical device companies do not have a clue. marten: i agree with that. in the old purity paradigm, people felt human beings were tech is theand

solution. now we're finding it is human techs are the problem and is the solution. way yourthere is no staff can do that. if the department of defense decide they are not secure enough without external help, you can do it? there are some that seem reluctant. aboveo acknowledge when -- bu are acknowledgedgs. lotare companies a resistant philosophically? i was told by apple engineer that these evil positives and

negatives that choose not to fear what do you see the most common refrain? they are already taking that. they are on a journey. they will be good. no were no idea that their system is vulnerable. breached, itas came through the air conditioning system because it was remotely controlled. no one had an idea. tell people who are completely ignorant. apple does have a robust security team. they know what to do with the vulnerability report. steve jobs apple was much more along the oracle line. that version of apple did not produce security white papers.

in their updates the good not say what was being fixed or who reported it. it was a black box. apple is great. they are three quarters of the way there. leslie to inscription. -- let's go to inscription. having down from single messaging to be corporations. people are really clueless about this. what do you think the chances are that something so aggressive gets passed by congress? how clueless is congress? in this congress the chances of anything getting past is slim to none. read theknow if people

bill or stories about it. taken literally, the back door l would ban general-purpose computers which could not possibly have been their intense. they are. how naive it is the next draft we have to we are here it is going to be introduced the week after next. matthew: one of the common things people talk about with encryption is the right we have to private communication. that is obviously one of the challenges in communicating with the government. you need to pursue wrongdoers. one and the thing i find

interesting that is not get talked about as much is class problem we have of the poor not having access to sit is that our secure -- to systems that are as secure. do you think there is a solution for the problem or a way to move forward to getting everybody the s?me right marten: we should do it if it is possible. nate: we have a privacy divide. as mostikes me of the apple/at the fbi's stances they should have access. any sophisticated actor will be even if an a signal

item message goes back to non-encrypted. the fbi has only worried about the masses. that is going to further deep in digital privacy divide. it makes me deeply uncomfortable. matthew: what are the common refrain of the default government agencies are people that are oppositional? i don't care about government hacking because i have nothing to hide. what do you have to say to people that take line? nate: my response is it is not about you. that is a deeply narcissistic position to take. i do not have anything to say but i still benefit from free speech because everyone around and theirerse opinion

right to speak those opinions enriches our lives. even if i do not have anything to hide, it is not about me. in democracy and social change from the civil rights to the gay rights have to have on the ability privacy away from government surveillance. you cannot have a gay rights movement anywhere in a theocratic state without privacy and security. is not about. it is about everybody else. i do not hear you think you have nothing to hide. you are not that special. it is not about you. matthew: when you are advising these companies and seeing here is why you need to open your

code, are you seeing more companies think of the government heart of their rent model? you need to protect yourself against any malicious activity and all of the different groups whether , political organizations, terrorists. theoes not matter from operator of a web system. you just need to find the vulnerabilities and remove them before they are being maliciously use. for us it is important to know where the attack comes from. for you as building the defense, it does not matter. to need to take every step protect yourself. you talked to companies

when you are negotiating with .hem aren't you seeing more willingness to view the government and oppositional force? sometimes, yes. messaging with companies. if you collect the data, they will come. that included attack risk, , intelligencee agencies. if the data is there, if you will have to protect it. one way is to not collected in the first in which the company put to great use. wh does nota have access. a keep it secure. tsapp matthew: it seems as though that become more prevalent. nate: that is what apple

development line looks like. that raises a whole host of issues. --is hackerone parading preparing for situation? marten: our role is not directly to the side. we are a marketplace of the allest community of hackers around the world a companies that need the surface. sometimes we are like the uber of security. we connect hackers with companies. nate: we have a white paper for online service writers best practice that is woefully out of date. have a cheatalso sheet for messaging system. nate: we actually just did it

down. that to get down. we have a scorecard which he took down last week because they are updating it. hide the ball.to when exactly it will go up. one last thing. the issue has arisen of info -- vs fingerprints. personal view of pincodes?versus this i use touch id on

device. it is more robust than a pin. i turned it off through customs. it does notoot work. there was an article in 2013 when it was first released discussing the implementation of touch id. amendment is the right to be free from compelled self-incrimination. i cannot be compelled to turn over my password except in certain circumstances. i can be compelled to give a breathalyzer test or left test will provide my fingerprint for

a comparison. in that same light cases, the argument is pretty good that you can be compelled to put your finger on the device. think about whether you want different finger. something to keep in mind. matthew: got it. thank you both very much. [applause] thank you very much. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] jordan: i cannot is called "building an excessive audience." we will get into it. it takes time for us to warm. wease welcome danielle

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-- that is sad and true. our friends who are supersmart and have good jobs literally tell meit is great you the state of the union is on tonight but i have plans. i know you're going to recap it, and i would have watched it. what it that way that we can fill? e-mail makes it easier. ahead is being let's be smarter about the future. it is leading to integrate into the iphone. we are staying here are all the you.s that we are telling

about. it is really just about being canter and how skimm introduce you to that. danielle: the primary revenue stream is sponsorship base. do in a way that is organic to our audience. have the subscription business. audience all works from the newsletter being the anchor.

it was never lets create a newsletter company, it was less create this engaged audience. we can catdifferent products. katie: with the native advertising, do you always let your readers know that it is danielle: we do. it is clearly sponsored. it never touches the actual news. it has been our book section or wine section but it does not touch the news of the day. it was something we learned early on. we used to tell our audience that you are going to see an ad

tomorrow. i felt like that we made a decision to be transparent. it is a free product. we are a young company. we need to make money. are open, people know there needs to be advertising a needs to be done well. the weekend thank you notes from our audience. we do not work with brands. >> it has been really exciting to see the growth that has happened. danielle: it's exciting to see the revenue. uswas something that enables to not have to raise revenue. we used to say we are a

pre-revenue company. it was a gift the way to say we did not have money. who is really calling the shots? danielle: we never thought about it in terms of that. it is a partnership. we are in it together. if we are ever at a place where we have a different opinion, we come up with a plan. we are trying something out and get a run. there are not a lot companies with co-ceo. we looked at a lot of different models. we had never raised money before. we had a really strong partnership from day one. we were friends, roommate, business partners.

it is unique. we get asked that a lot. when we checked in money, it was moneyure out who to take from. recently it was great. with an earlymeet investor. they interrupted the meeting in front all of the partners and that i just have to say that you should be proud of the business but the two of you have such a unique partnership. you should be out in his doing so well. katie: it is good that you're getting along. you have a very small team. three people? carly: our team is 20 people which seems huge. to go from two people on a couch , leaving they are

so great. sometimes we feel like the duggar model. katie: 20 people that work there total? carly: three people are on our editorial team. are on our analytic team. mean. lean and littleusually there is a witty or start the comments .efore each news item i what to say the right into your back or have you determined that? we created a character. it has a very specific voice.

background, what she likes to do on a friday afternoon, what she likes to do brunch. .hat health our writers it helps our business team think about who she would work with. when we started in my friends would say i had no idea she was so funny and her friends say that about me. i think that is funny. we get asked where is that snarky park come from -- park come from? everybody has that no bs friend. gir represent that.

skimm girl represents that. and how to integrate normal conversation into that. these helpfule guides. n.w to use snapchat, bitcoi do you plan on expanding for the newsletters? the app, there are clearly a lot more products we would like to create we will get to in time. that came from our audience. writing in and said we know you are writing about the background of syria and i still

have questions. a lot of this is really complicated. from there, it is reallyin a becoming a great thing that people are looking forward to. they know they can get it through the newsletter. it has been amazing to see. are actually our own content. you have a wide range of topics, pop culture, tech, finance. he cannot be experts on everything. have to come up with this? we never said that we were. we say we are the best in the business.

they have political experts but translators. how can you translated in a way that people understand it? people reach out that the i am an expert on this cannot work for me? experts. want people this to make it easier to be smarter. is there a voice that makes it easy to understand? when we were fund-raising people with a are you a media orbotech company -- or tech company? if we have to pick, we are going to be an audience company. that is our buzz word.

what does our audience want to be ? everyone wants to feel they have an opinion is something to contribute to a conversation. you used to the tv producers. is there going to be a video component? >> it would be a shame if we do not use our video background somehow. want to takee every time you look at your phone and i see so many of you , we wantt your own every time you are looking at your phone being the definition of meantime. -- me time. we are doing that in your

morning routine. we're doing that in e-mail. now we are doing in your calendar. it is grazing to women entrepreneurs getting funding and doing well. do you have advice? danielle: you have to really believe in what you are doing. we heard again and again "no, no, no." we were told e-mail is dead. there are two different paths you can take. one is made is not a good idea.

the other is the our jobs, we believe in this, our friends like it. we want to fix this. we just did it. the easiest thing you can do is give up. kno your audience. w there are very few facebook. that has been our true north. thank you. we are out of time but it was so great to hear about the skimm. more fromt back to a moment. in just we want to keep you a preview of desk if you preview of c-span.

they discriminate against the voters. issueay night, the spotlight the voting rights and the impact on the 2016 election. it will be part of the supreme court argument. members of congress on whether to restore the. then a discussion on whether the voting rights act is necessary. trump: a lot of people will not have voter idea. that mean? you just keep walking in and voting? hillary clinton: it is an attempt to difference chance -- to disenfranchise people of color, poor people.

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what members of congress are doing back home in their district. we take you back now to more conferenceechcrunch in may. it took place in brooklyn, new york. good morning. can you hear me ok? all right. great. you. just out of curiosity, how many people know what the word viv mean? life we are going to use it to breathe. inanimate objects of our life through conversation. that is where we are headed with this. roughly every 10 years a new

paradigm, along that changes the way we interact with computers. think it is a secret what the next paradigm is going to be. we are not alone. pretty much every major technology company is investing billions of dollars in the intelligent system spa. this is a race to the single interface for the user. we think a lot of the noise is a reallyarea important question. how do we take today's basic technologies and transform them experientially into something that is a true paradigm shift? it is an essential aspect of what this is going to take to go to the net level.

-- next level. you really just want one assistant. you don't want to have to look at think about which service providers you are going to be using to as what questions and what commands they require. you just want to ask. wait until you are looking at a hands-free device that has a hundred, it does not scale. you wanted to be personalized to you. to learnyour assistant from you, learn your preferences, learn whether you like irc or windows the plan, your food preferences for fighting restaurant. you want it to know all of these things regardless of what device you are talking to. this needs to transfer.

you do not want to have to start over every time you have a different device. the most important part about this is no one company in the has the resources to plug in every one of these are you might want to use. that is what viv has spent a lot time and money on. we think this will be the crucial thing that takes us from versions that each do 20 or 30 different things to doing tens of thousands of things. do, lets meet viv. a couple of notes. are talking to pretty much all of the major companies around the world to fit viv

different devices. putting this on the wrong today todayy.hone built soplatform is developers can come in and make things quite easily and create experiences that are straightforward. it also has the capability of allowing developers to create a much more complex experience. whetherng to use a view -- weather examples. .tarting on the basic

what is the weather like at home today? pretty straightforward. pretty straightforward type of query. was it raining in seattle three thursdays ago? see, viv has a much stronger understanding when you can teach and develop the natural language aspect of it. going to take another bigger delete -- leap. will be warmer than 70 degrees new the golden gate bridge after 5:00 p.m. the day after tomorrow? ok.

this is a pretty sophisticated query. so what we're looking at here is this developer center. this is the place where and develop ll go new apps and teach new things. is load 'm going to do one of the queries that i did earlier. run that.to and then we are going to open the curtains a little bit and a look at what's going on inside. looks fairly straightforward here but there's actually something pretty extraordinary going on. the first thing that we do is we have our friends from nuance e're using fur our speech recognition today turn the sounds into words