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>> a town hall meeting hosted by senator cardin of maryland. if you missed any of today's townhall meeting, it will be available on our website. you can find it at www.c-span.org. coverage coming your way this afternoon on c-span, about 45 minutes from now at 2:56 p.m. eastern time, homeland secretary jeh johnson in louisiana will be speaking to the media in baton rouge, the homeland security secretary dispatch to louisiana in the wake of historic flooding in that state, and we will have

that debriefing about 45 minutes from now or whenever it gets started live here on c-span. of thee to a member louisiana delegation just a few minutes ago to get an update on the situation on that state. republican representative gary graves of louisiana is joining us. he's been accompanying homeland security secretary jeh johnson in louisiana today. in your state.ng where do things stand in your district right now? >> the northern part of the district is de-watering and folks are pivoting from rescue towards recovery work. salvagere trying to what they can from their homes. other parts of the district further south continue to have water in many of the homes and folks are just waiting for the waters to receipt and largely biding their time in some of the

area shelters. >> how is the federal response been so far in the emergency response and recovery effort? i think in terms of after the storm, things have been -- things are wrapping up and getting to the tempo they need to be. i think the real concern has been on the front end, lack of preparation, and really warning and evacuation, that should have preceded this disaster. is this something you believe congress will have to allocate more money to, this specific flooding event? rep. graves: i do. this is a historic event. we have communities that it received over 30 inches of rain within a brief period of time.

really just an extraordinary flood, we are working with other members of congress to see what that recovery package looks like. it varies in different areas, and some of the humidities, 95% of the homes took on water. we are working as quick as we can to get folks back. we have several thousand people that remain in shelters right now. in some of our communities were able to do quick fix jobs and get people back in their homes within weeks, at least on a temporary basis. hadr folks that simply water to their roof above, obviously will be a much longer recovery. overall, this will be a multiyear recovery for our community. what are you telling louisiana residents are the next steps they need to be taking? rep. graves: we try and keep

this a secret, but it's really hot and humid here during the summers. you've got to get into these homes and rip out the sheet rock and get the floor filled up as quick as possible to prevent mold from setting in. once mold sets in, it's difficult to get rid of. obviously getting folks signed up for different assistance packages and the most important everyoneour community, is coming together. you have strangers walking in the houses in helping to rip out sheetrock carpet, and temporary clean up measures, pulling the mud out. it's great to see the community coming up together. >> will you be doing over the next few days? rep. graves: a little bit of helping people clean their homes out. we're spending a lot of time on different policy solutions looking at the recovery. $200,000folks who have

left on their mortgage, they've lost both cars, their houses filled with water, that financial situation doesn't allow you to move forward. we are working on what the right type of policy solutions look like to help recover this area as quickly as possible. imagine, many of these folks are well outside the i don't havedplain flood insurance, which makes it a very difficult situation to recover from. you, and all of the members of your district and state as the recovery effort continues in louisiana. we appreciate you being with us today. rep. graves: thank you. >> we will hear from homeland secretary -- homeland security secretary jeh johnson. 2:45 eastern time that is

scheduled to get underway. we will have it live for you on c-span. other members of congress, members of the house and senate in their districts and states dealing with any number of issues, attending events and activities, and taking the their media to chronicle activities. eleanor holmes norton talking about the washington monument and problems there, closed for the fourth time during tourist season. 's tweet,sman as part of my better way to fight poverty tour, i stopped by the bridge to recovery in stanly county with sheriff burris.

we will continue to follow members of congress during this congressional break. congress is back on tuesday, september 6. congressof issues that is dealing with, zika prevention and research, defense programs, and possibly and impeachment -- an impeachment. the house is live on c-span and the senate gavel to gavel on c-span2. tonight at 8:00, we get a look at black markets and cybercrime. going back in time 10 to 15 years ago, cybercrime or hacking consisted of an ad hoc network

of individuals largely motivated by ego and notoriety. they wanted to have a resume boost. they wanted to prove to themselves and their friends that they could do this kind of thing. this is the age of the lone wolf hacker. as time went on and more digital natives and technologically savvy individuals entered the world, as more connected computing components got connected, more people recognize that there was by hacking for financial profit, especially criminal enterprises recognize the low risk and potential are high reward for getting into the cyber crime game. what if nations shifted from ego moneytoriety to making and financial gain. 8:00 easternht at

time on c-span. eastern it's jeh johnson, the homeland security secretary, a live news conference at 2:45 from baton rouge, louisiana. while we wait for that to get started, a portion from today's "washington journal." at our table this morning, the president of the most action, heather mcghee. thank you for being here. explain what demos is. public'smos is a organization that was funded in 2000. the name is the greek word for the people, the root word of democracy. our mission is to work for america where we all have an equal say in our democracy and an equal chance in our economy. sisterction is our organization that allows us to fight about candidates' position on issues.

host: how are each funded? os is about a $10 million organization that is mainly funded through foundations, as well as small and large individual donors. demos action is funded through a similar sort of mix. host: any big-name wealthy donors our viewers would recognize questioner -- recognize? guest: the kellogg foundation, ford foundation, open society foundation. none of our major donors, individual people, are sort of big known. majority of our funding comes from those foundations. host: what are you promoting? what issues are important to this progressive demos grip? guest: it is an exciting moment right now and our country.

demos was founded to address issues of inequality in our democracy and economy. we mean the fact that it is hard for a regular working family to be heard, and the issues that keep them up at night are not the issues that are front and center across the country, and the fact that it is really hard for a regular working family to get ahead financially. we think those things are interrelated. we think the public policy plays a role in making sure there is a fair shot for everyone and that there is an equal voice for everyone. we are really trying to drive a when,ory at this moment frankly, a lot of people on the left and right are saying, i'm not sure about the solutions and stories. we are a new generation. demos is sort of a younger public policy generation and we're looking for new solutions. when we use the word progressive, i think today that means things like get free public college for all, which is

an old idea. things like expanding social security to make sure that it is making up for the fact that, unlike my grandparents, my generation is not going to have a defined benefit pension on the job. in manylutions that are ways responding to the economic america, people in saying we need to rebuild the ladders of opportunity, and saying we probably will not be up to do that until we clean up washington and address the issue of money and politics. and we have to make sure everybody can vote, no matter their class, age, that ground, their work schedules. how: demos action fund, much money have you raised, and how are you spending that? are you supporting hillary clinton? guest: we have not endorsed any candidate here it we do not think it is necessary. we do not have a lot of ground

troops. i do not know that they need our endorsement. but it is clear that the research ideas we promote, the public policy solutions we have been reloading, particularly in this election cycle, money and politics, we want to see solutions from candidates. for example, small dollar matched public financing, which we know works at the local and state level and could work at the federal level. the only one that has adopted that is hillary clinton. returning to debt free public college, we would love to see republicans taking up that idea because it is a very commonsense idea. virtually everyone in congress went to college at a time when it was debt-free. people could work about 10 hours a week or a summer job. it is because the public pay for it, and we saw it as a public good. host: we want to get your action to donald trump on tuesday reaching out to black voters and telling them that the democratic party has not been good for them. [video clip]

the bigotrye reject of hillary clinton which panders to communities of color and sees them only as votes. that is all they care about, not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. they have taken advantage. [cheers and applause] at trump: she does not care all about the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them, and she, meaning she and her party officials. there has been tremendous suffering a cousin of what they have brought. -- suffering because of what they have brought the african-american community has been taken for granted for decades by the democratic party, and look how they are doing. it is time to break with the failures of the past. i want to offer americans a new and much better future. it is time for rule by the people, not rule for the special

interests, which we have right now. host: heather mcghee? guest: donald trump is a fantastic marketer, and everything that he just said, your head has to nod, right? is it true that politicians have taken many lots of voters for granted? is it true that african-american families are struggling because of decisions made in washington? is it true that neither party has done what it takes to create the american dream at home for the folks whose ancestors, in build this helped american dream under a system of slavery? absolutely right. that said, there weren't any ideas about what would make a difference. so at demos, we do a lot of research into the issues that really affect what we call the sort of new american demos,

working-class folks, women-headed households, people of color. and one of the major issues is the racial wealth gap, something that is not often talked about, but it is a massive issue in terms of family economic security. so because of, historically, very discriminatory policies around who could get mortgages, around what neighborhoods the government would insure mortgages in, around racial segregation and discrimination in housing him and up until the 1980's and 1990's, the curry favoresire to with wall street and big banks have changed the rules to make it so that brokers and lenders could cut families who would otherwise qualify for good affordable homes.

african-american and latino families were steered multiple times over compared to white families and to those subprime loans. what you saw was that during the recession, you know, all families were suffering. in particular, african-american and latino families lost about half of their wealth, half of their wealth. that made a both easier to get loans but more expensive and dangerous to get those kinds of loans just at the time whenever you in american families were finally being able to own their piece of the american dream was a bipartisan decision. the question is right now, now that it is clear what the costs have been. which party is more focused on making of for that kind of loss? clearly, it is the democratic party right now. i would love to see republicans saying, you know what, we are going to have a home ownership

target of 60% for african-american families. right now, it is about 20 percentage points below that. because they do not have that little leg up, lots of families can just say, oh, my grandparents will give me a $10,000 investment to help me with a down payment. when you're down -- when your grandparents are living in segregated south, they did not have that. host: tommy in tennessee, independent. just, as a person who is libertarian, i am very impressed with your progressive viewpoints and theories. is mr.stion i have is, obama as progressive as he so, why isn'tif there a black woman on the supreme court? thank you, and have a blessed day. guest: are you trying to give me

a job? just kidding. thank you for your question, and thank you for being engaged in this issue. at this point in our politics, sometimes i think the easiest thing to do is actually withdraw and throw up your hands and say that the whole thing is broken. so i really appreciate all of you being engaged. i think that racial conversations during the obama presidency and in our media far moreave been caustic that any of us would have wanted and any of us 2008ved in in a moment in when many of us believe we were coming together as a nation. should there be an african-american in the court, as there has never been? even the diversity of our country, i think our highest bench should represent that. do i think his choice of merrick garland, who is still sitting

without a single hearing from the divided senate that wants to hold his nomination and not do their job, do i think that would have been easier than with an african-american woman? i don't think so. i think he was listening to where the politics are in this country, which is unfortunate. host: our guest heather mcghee has a law degree from california. in 2008, she served as john edwards deputy policy director. in 2009, she cochaired a task for with americans for financial reform that helped shape provisions of the frank -- of dodd-frank. marcia, you are next. caller: ms. mcghee, you are a breath of fresh air. mother living in chicago

with four grandchildren who were all college graduates. they are all living at home because they cannot find well-paying jobs. .t is so discouraging i am really disappointed with the democratic party. we all are. thathere are many of us are not flocking to hillary clinton. it is not going to happen. just too many problems and nobody has answers. rather than just blatantly give her our votes, and that is what we are doing -- they are, we are not none of my family is voting for hillary clinton. it is just a matter of we have got to make some -- we have got to start making demands. how come we are the only group that never gets anything? we never get anything. host: i will have heather mcghee jump in. guest: first of all, thank you

for calling in. i am from chicago, as well. you know, that sentiment, that idea that we are at a place where neither party is serving the needs of a grandmother who has four grandchildren who played by all the rules and went through college and are living at home because they cannot find not feelng job, we do like anyone in the statehouse in springfield, illinois, or in washington is really breaking through with real common sense solutions, that is about the most widely held view in america right now. people are looking at the system of money in politics. here is a good example -- that idea that you should be able to work hard, play by the rules, and get ahead and find a good paying job, that a full time jobs and not keep you in poverty, that is a commonsense idea that both republicans and democrats support. the only people who do not support it, the only sort of

party that does not support it, is the very wealthy the right now have an outside influence in washington. we have done a lot of work with political science researchers over the past few years to really look at, do the people who fund campaigns, and this is a fraction of the richest 1% of the country who are giving big checks, over $200 checks, to federal candidates, do they actually think different things about the economy and about our society? the answer is yes, particularly on the types of policies that would expand the middle class and the questions of tax policy, questions of investment in education, questions of how high the minimum wage should be. that for a lot of folks, looking at that research, and there is a series of reports on demos.org, and a lot of folks see that research and it makes sense. everyone has heard it in this country, but we not seeing

breakthroughs on solutions. taxpayers who pay everyday salaries of elected officials, those paying for the campaigns, hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funding, they have different priorities. fortunately, we can reform a system of campaign finance. that is the thing that would get citizens united, to actually see bipartisan campaign finance reform. host: next call from ohio, republican. yes, thanks for taking my call. i have a question for you that nobody seems to ask anybody about. the unemployment in the united states is at 4.9%, somewhere in that area, but everybody knows the rate for the black man is much higher. it has been higher, and i cannot understand why 96% of the black

people want to vote for a democrat who does not want to help with unemployment. they want to import illegal immigrants into the country, and were does the black man benefit from having all these immigrants in this country? country?' guest: i think it is good for us to discuss these issues. you are absolutely right that blackmail unemployment -- black male unemployment is higher than it should be. they are two drivers for that. the first one is job discrimination. there are studies that show that a white man who walks into a job screening is given a callback, even if he has a criminal record that he presents when he walks in at a higher rate than a black

man without a criminal record. the stereotypes and believes that we have about the , theirlity of black men character, and frankly painful for me as the daughter and brother and sister of a black man. .re affecting the job market we had a blip of time in which we have have been swimming in the sea of negative stereotypes that justify a system of economic and social apartheid in this country. we really need to work on that. the eeoc, part of the government that supports -- supposed to tackle job this commission has been underfunded for a long time. the ability to do class-action lawsuits against employers to

try to bring folks to the table find solutions, to be able to say you have to come to the table because we're seeing all this job discrimination among your workers. it has really been helpful. that is one piece of jobs commission. the other piece is the fact we have a system right now where virtually every american has broken some law or other at a time. there are some communities, particularly communities that invested invested -- dis and are simply no police. jaywalking becomes an arrest or worse. i believe it at an arrest. jaywalking becomes an arrest. once you have that arrest, if you're african-american without a criminal record, you do worse than a white man with a criminal record. imagine if you have that kind of arrest. one out of every three americans has some kind of arrest record. it's particularly bad in the african-american community but

it's an epidemic for all of us. we have to really turn the page on the system of mass criminalization and over and fees forfines simple infractions. this is not the kind of america we believe he want to see. there is another place where we have a place for bipartisan reform. i don't get a think i'm dodging the question. this is a country of immigrants. it has always been a country of people who come to seek out opportunity. there are a lot of reasons why immigration from latin america was driven up in the 1990's. nafta is one of those reasons. this president has deported more people than any other president in history. the idea that he has in this -- and thison administration have been loose on immigration is a myth. you can talk to many immigrant

families were living in fear who 20 years ago would have had a path to citizenship and today don't and are living in fear of deportation to humanize this conversation. host: richard from springdale, arkansas. independent. caller: good morning, washington journal. i have a question for heather. please let me finish. it will take long. one of the first things she said was our democracy. as far as i know we are a representative republic. and to the republic for which it stands. she is highly educated. not only graduated high school, so please somebody explain to me at what point in the history of the united states did we become a democracy. greece is a democracy. look at them. greta, you are the moderator.

you should let them say these things. -- shouldn't let them say these things. and what point in the history of this country did we become a democracy? i was a fallen asleep and missed something. you tohe format allows challenge the guests that are sitting here in a civil way. go ahead. guest: thank you for your call and thank you for that question. i do think democracy is a word that is thrown around, including by the founders of this nation. yet we have to live every day to give it meaning. we are a representative democracy. democracy doesn't mean direct democracy. we don't have national referendum on every issue. we are a representative democracy where the building i can see here out of the window is where hundreds of people who have been elected by their citizens in their districts come

to represent ideally the democracy -- represent the views of their constituents. what we know is this country was never meant to represent everyone who lives here, works here and is a citizen. i can go into a lot of history that i don't think retta wants me to go into -- greta once me to go into. that has many struggle since it was founded. the word democracy does not mean every single person votes on every policy issue and law. we ideally all have a free and fair and unfettered access to the ballot and vote for representatives. next from las vegas. a democrat. caller: i'm an old white woman. i could write a book on racial discrimination.

it is true, blacks are treated badly. they need to pull themselves out. we need to help the get them some education and help them get a job because they are discriminated against. a white man will get a job before a black person does. i look on the all white here audience of donald trump and i can assure you that donald trump imports his employees. he doesn't care about minorities. donald trump loves himself. bite starts screaming she me, we better run for the hills. host: we will leave your comments there and i will have your response. freddie from maryland, independent college.

caller: thank you so much c-span for giving us a voice. i'm calling as an african-american who voted for barack obama twice. i am shocked when i see how black people are just all for hillary knowing how bad the problem in the black community is. we don't think. what is donald trump offering? he has not given as an alternative. what are his policies on the economy? things are bad in our community and the world has become such a bad place. i don't know why we just go for democratic party. we don't even think. . thank you so much guest: thank you for your call. i think that is been a theme among so many callers. i will say i think the

african-american community has a relationship with the democratic party that isn't unthinking. it is a critical relationship. no community has a working and middle class that is shape the direction of either party. that is really because of who funds the parties. that said, when you look at it, and is the color before said, as you look at the ideas people are offering up, the policy platforms of the republican and democratic parties, you will see that more of the concerns of working middle class folks where most african-americans are, very few were in the top 1% but there are some, most of those concerns have more realistic comments in solutions and the democratic party platform. things like free college. that's another place for that racial benefit is showing up.

latinos andicans, white americans are all clamoring to get a college degree. my generation and younger generations know that is a ticket for the middle class in the way it wasn't in previous generations. yet because we have for the past 25 years decided to give tax breaks to the wealthy corporations at the state level instead of investing in supporting the cost of public education, they had cut public education by $.26 on the dollar per pupil over the past generation. that big drop in money going to your state college, where is that money being made up? intuition and loans. can we can invest in something we know is good for the entire country, this economic growth, it is good for small businesses. which is everybody having not only a college degree, but not being saddled with debt when they come out. that should be a common sense,

no-brainer solution. it's only in one platform right now. i would like to see that change but that is where we are. host: the democratic platform is what you are saying. what happens if hillary clinton follows the advice of columnist tom friedman when he wrote, it is time that hillary pivoted. the country today doesn't need the first female president. and his the first president in a long time who can govern with the centerleft, center-right coalition and actually in the gridlock on a fiscal policy in a smart way. if donald trump continues to melt down into a puddle of bile, more republicans will be up for grabs. with the right progrowth economic policies, clinton would have an opening not only to enlisted to help her win, but to building governing coalition for the morning after." guest: i think we should unpack some of the terms in there. he said he was to do a centerleft fiscal policy. this is what i said at the beginning. it feels like our policies are shifting. folks might think the

centimeters the center of where the democratic congress is in the center of where the republican congress is. that center is not pro-investing in the country and making the wealthy and corporations, many of whom pay zero to little taxes, that is the center idea among the political class. is a corporate tax reform that doesn't raise taxes on any businesses that are currently offshoring. if you walk out of this town to virginia or maryland and gather a representative sample of americans who are republican, democrats and independents, that said it would say absolutely we think corporations that paper lobbyists and ceos one and they pay to the country to help make them strong should have to pay more in taxes. that is the center. this is that question right now where we are seeing more of a

gap not between left and right in the country but between those two are already wealthy and powerful and have the rules pretty well rigged in their favor and those of us who have been left behind. do i think there should be a centrist fiscal policy? yes. not if it's the center of the lobbyists and the -- host: ted, you are next. caller: i want to make a couple of statements. i would like to meet whoever raise heather. i think they did a great job and it really comes across. what troubles me is a c 94 million americans out of work. i see black youth unemployment at 40%. you are emphasizing college, which is fine, but they need to go into the trades like plumbers, masons, things like that. my concern is this. you seem to be fronting both parties and that is true, but you are pulling more for the democrats. i am wondering how today and in the future you will hold them

accountable if they do get elected again and all these inner cities and on the national government after eight years, if we will have more of the same. who do you admire living that an action person that you look to double get some of these things done that i agree with you on? andt: personal, my mother -- first of all, my mother and father thank you. [laughter] so, holding them accountable. i think that is really the question. the democratic party and the republican party have within them lots of different ideologies and factions and communities. i think we need to start thinking about the same way there are caucuses within each , really elevating that

idea to voters. you can say, what kind of democrat are you? in new york state we have something called the working families party, which is able to do something that is not possible in most state election laws which is to cross endorse. you can vote for the governor as a democrat, or you can go for him as a working families party person. if the party decides to endorse him. it sends a message that says yes, i am voting. if you can vote in say i'm voting for hillary but i am voting for a platform that is actually about working families. and i want to hold her accountable to working families party agenda. if you can pull that lever in addition to just pulling a lever between democrats and apublicans and not have it be spoiler third-party candidate, i think that will go a long way to having a sense of the county -- accountability for a strong

set of positions. u.s. about jobs. i think this is crucial. we know a college degree is important. -- you can't have a middle-class life in this country except a few small sectors of unionized jobs about a college degree. we think everyone should have a college degree if they want one and should not put them in financial ruin. we need a massive jobs program in this country. after the great depression, the first massive recession and great depression in the country, we had a program the put millions of people to work. every single person listening to this nose of problems that need to be solved. whether it is park city to be rebuilt, children and the elderly they need to be watched, roads that need repaving, water systems that need improving. the list could go on and on. infrastructure, human and hard infrastructure is not being

fixed. for less than the cost of the bush tax cut in one year cut over one million people back to work directory serving the communities. it would be wonderful to see a massive new jobs program. it would be wonderful to see investments in infrastructure. this has support from both the afl-cio, the labor federation and the chamber of commerce. it is not leaving because of congress right now. who do i admire? i admire reverend william barber, who is not an elected official but he is the head of the naacp in north carolina. host: and a guest on our show. guest: regular listeners will be able to relate to that. i think he has been able to. a multiracial coalition in north carolina that has been fighting policiesmerican set of

set of policies that try to degrade the environment of my carolina and try to make it harder for people to vote because they were african-american. that has been proven by the courts. movement isnday's impressive and shows the way forward. host: you can was set on c-span.org if you missed it. arnold, a democrat? caller: hello. host: you are on. go-ahead. caller: thanks. i would like to point out that when the northern democrats passed the civil rights act the southern democrats overcame republicans. a really good reason. thank you. host: let me hear from gary in north carolina, independent. caller: hi. good morning. i was hoping your guest did help

me change my mind about some things. i am a white male. i am prejudiced. is it is something i learned. when i opened up the papers i get very discouraged at one young black males are doing to each other and the crime rate. i understand they live in an environment with a lot of drugs. you have to get money for drugs. is an issue that goes beyond that. i have the different fears. come't want my fears to true. i try to avoid that. i come off as being prejudiced. i just have fears. i don't like to be forced to like people. i like to be led to like people their example. what can i do to change, to be a better american?

host: heather mcghee? guest: thank you so much for being honest and for opening up to this conversation. it is simply one of the most important once we have to have in this country. we are not a country that is united because we are all one racial group that all dissented from one tribe in one community. that is what makes this country beautiful, but it is our challenge. we have the most multiracial, multiethnic, wealthy democracy in the world. asked,the question you how do i get over my fears and my prejudices, is the question that all of us, people of all races and ethnicities and backgrounds hold onto these prejudices. most are unconscious. you say i'm not prejudiced, but of course we all have that. you are ability to say this is what i have, i have certain

prejudices and i want to get over them is one of the most powerful things we can do right now at this moment in our history. thank you. so what can you do? families wholack majorityven any involved in crime and gangs. turn off the news that night. sorry, greta. host: we are not delivering the news. that is fine. guest: we know that nightly news in media markets over represent african american crimes happening by white people. church if you are a religious person that is a black church or a church that is interracial. start to read about the history

of the african-american community in this country. foster conversation in your neighborhoodur where you are asking those kinds of questions. this fear of communities that we do not live near, we are still a very segregated country. millions of white americans live in places where they rarely see anyone of a different race. -- this set of ideas is tearing us apart. we know in order to be, our name means the people, in order to be united across lines of race and class and gender and age we have to get to know one another. surprised when we build relationships across that. host: republican, good morning.

caller: i would like to say i have never been what you would call a democrat or a republican. but i feel like we need a change. mother andd with my a cotton patch in alabama. my dad died when i was five and a half months old. my mother raised me on $30 a month. if we picked cotton and make money, she had to turn that in. they said that all for $30. -- they took that all for $30. i went to work in fort payne, alabama which was the salt capital of the world. when bill clinton signed that nafta bill my job left. it went overseas. we were all devastated. i mean devastated. that was our livelihood. we were known as the salt

capital of the world. not that we made a lot of money, but we survived. i amt to say to this lady not prejudiced. i am not. i have some very close black friends. i have a son that is thirtysomething years old. he has the mindset that everybody owes him something. some white people and some black people, everybody owes them something. i am not talking out of sorts. anyway i am voting for donald trump because we need a change. host: we will leave it there. guest: thank you for sharing your story. the country is full of amazing stories of grit and determination. the system of sharecropping you are referring to is one of those

many examples in this country of wired systems that were set up primarily to disadvantage african-americans, sharecropping replaced slavery in the cotton south, also hurt white families as well. where we train the swimming pool in order to make sure black folks don't get the swim. we set up a system and our past, particularly to her black families and keep them behind. a lot of poor white folks get trapped in it as well. you say we are at a place where young people think something is owed to them. i want to instead of just rejecting that say in some cases i think that is right. we are a country where the basic idea that you could get a job, have it the one where you can

support a family, maybe not a life of luxury but you can afford a house, rent, save a little bit for the future. you might have health care on the job even if it was a middle-class job or a white-collar job. you would be able to retire with dignity. those are things that young people are seeing that the grandparents had, even if they were not but we think of is good white-collar jobs. they had some security. i think they do feel like they should be owed that. people feeling young people -- people feel that if they work hard they should have some level of security in return. you are wise to talk about nafta as something that fundamentally changed the rule and made it so that our corporate sector can look for the cheapest possible labor. that not only changed the

community, the salt capital the world that you were working in, it also changed the ballots -- balance of power in washington's. incyte corporation's could write their own rules. we're seeing even more trade deals on the table, once it would expand the rights of corporations vis-a-vis the rules we create in our government even more. that is where i think donald trump has hit a nerve. that is where i think we are at this moment where politics are shifting and you are seeing the base of both the democratic and republican party say we want a different set of rules around trade in this country. it is not that we want to build walls and not export anything and not import any goods. we wanted to be something that takes into consideration the standard of living of workers. not just here in this country, but bangladesh and mexico were people are being paid pennies on the dollar. host: heather mcghee.

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you were talents executive en. tor of rep -- republic guest: where people believe there's a solution to climate change so we are solving the problem of climate change so what we do is go around trying to convince conservatives to overcome our inferiorty complex we apparently think we are no goods at climate change but we have the answer. free enterprise. host: let's back up. how did you come to this position? have you always believed there as climate change? i st: in our first six years thought climate change was hooy and all i knew was al gore was for it so i was against it.

i was running again for congress in 2004 and my son said dad, i'll vote for you, he was voting for the first time and he said but you're going to clean up our act on the environment. this was the first of three and second set he went into the science committee. and third step really something of a spiritual awakening. on another science trip aussie and after we ists had a chance to talk he told me about conservation changes he made in his life in order love god and love people and i said i want to be like himso i introduce to do so cut wages and raise carbon act of 2009. probably not the greatest decision in the middle of the -- so i got booted out of congress in 2010 and started republic en.org.

host: and by someone our viewers recognize tray gowdy who heads up the benghazi committee. you lost to him in the primary. do you think you lost because of this you? guest: in the midst of the great recession it was important to have orthodoxy. when a tribe the under pressure it insists on orthodoxy and i voted for tarp which can never be forgiven by the tea party. i was for conference immigration reform even though we didn't call it that, and i voted against the troop surge in iraq, because i had conservative concerns about george bush who is my friend but just saying the climate change is real even though i voted against cap and trade i thought that was poor solution for climate change and proposed

an alterrauntive which we believe is an -- host: you call it climate en. what are you proposing to do? guest: essential to put all the cost in all the fuels and eliminate all the subsidies so there's a transparent marketplace. probably the best means to do that is an upstream of a revolutionary carbon tax. pay attention to those last two words, is that right carbon tax. that's word, is that right but those first two. revenue neutral. that means we cut taxes somewhere else in equal amounts so athletes no growth in government and then flied imports taxed in the same way our goods are tax do so and you put it together where it's adjustable al and

the phil donahue show in the 1970's, how do you deal with pollution dr. friedman? and he said you tax it of course. intern lies in external commonalities, you put the cost on the product 10th market price will judge the product. people could make money without subsidies and fickle tax cuts. they could make money on solar wind and there are other ways to make electricity. host: how would thy be able to compete with the big guys who have been at this for decades? guest: we want to eliminate all the subsidies they currently enjoy but if you eliminate biggest subsidy at all if i make cold fire electricity the biggest subsidy i get is being

able to dump into the trash dump of the sky without accountability. it works great-for-me and it's pretty good for my customers except the ones that live close to my plant because they get stuff from my plant in their lunges. some cough it up but some don't and go to the hospital and then we pay in the health effects. if you make me accountable and say no, inglis, be bib lickly accountable. you can't dump on somebody else's lunges or on their property. then it changes everything. to local congress they say my energy rates will then go up and i say of course they will but we are paying at the hospital or at the meter. wind and solar might be able to

compete with me without any subsidies or expiring tax incentives in which they had a near-death experience having to come to the capital. host: who is onboard with what you're doing? guest: well, we are building right now. we have mostly millennial conservatives. their parents and grandparents are a little bit harder sell for us but young conservatives get this. they want their party, their movement to be relevant to their future, and so they say, thank goodness, somebody's finally talking a conservative sthrution climate change and thank goodness we don't have just a clean power plant to look at and rethink couldn't think of a worst way to deal with climate change, sector by sector, prone to litigation. we've got to deal with better. better is an economy-wide,

worldwide simple pricing. only rule of government is to say all cost in. all subsidies out and be the accountable cop on the beat. host: before we get to calls, are you changing any minds up on critical with your former colleagues? >> yes. what we see is some movement there of course not many are are the to come out on this, if you will, because it is still a little bit dangerous because a dominant tune on the radio is no, we don't believe in climate change. because we don't want to believe in climate change. but meanwhile, we are all experiencing climate change, and we thought it was going to be a long way away. but just look at the headlines in the paper today. it's baton rouge. it's a lot of water in the atmosphere that came down in a flood. it's the wildfires. t's zika in miami.

we are experiencing climate change right now, and of course the people that come after us are going to experience even greater effects. so once that becomes more toical, then i think we will see more members of congress saying you know, we do have to enter the competition of ideas. something overtake athing when it decides it has need, and it may just take a regulatory, really poor solution. we conservatives need to be there with a better alternative. host: let's see what our callers think. kelly from georgia, you are on the air. don't believe for one second that republicans do not want clean air and clean water, that i think we have a problem with the hypocrisy. if you will not cut me off,

hypocrisy of people, the al leonardos, when they preach to the little man, when they fly around in their r 300,000 live in thei square-foot homes, and their yachts and everything -- i wonder what that carbon footprint is doing. then they say that we have got to build bridges and y'all don't need guns, yet they are protected by big guns. wonder what that big thing is around the white house? is that a gate or is that a bridge? and last, is it true that loretta lynch and a lot of her division have been trying to put people in jail for denying climate change? that is a lot of hypocrisy there. of course republicans want clean

air and clean water. and what about the colorado river when the epa messed that up? host: let's get a reaction from the former congressman. yeah, hypocrisy is causing a lot of trouble here, holding us back. it, right?just price if some wants to have a great big house and fly around on a corporate jet, ok, as long as they are willing to pay for the emissions. all right. friedman told us, as i said earlier, just put the price in and make it so that they're fully accountable, and then they will decide and maybe they will stop taking the big car. they might get in an uber pool rather than taken the big car. to people have the freedom decide. yet, the hypocrisy of people that preach and then do other things is a problem. pennsylvania,

independent. caller: i want to ask the gentleman here, the lady before mentioned the colorado river, and i notice a big discrepancy between all the coverage that the media gave flint, michigan, and that terrible tragedy up there, and now the navajo indians out in colorado and that area have been severely impacted by an epa event that i do not think anybody in the epa has been held accountable. i agree with climate change. however, the whole people accountable is also essential, besides taxing everything. how can the epa discharge 300 million gallons of lead and arsenic and everything else like that into the colorado river and nobody is held accountable? in flint, michigan, six or seven people are on their way to

crossbar hotel, and out there in the west where the navajo indians are impacted, the clinton -- clinton -- the obama epa, ok, was completely at fault there, and these are supposed to be the smart people. host: let me show a headline from the new york times that refers to what you are talking about, navajo nation sues epa and poisoning of a colorado river. guest: they are bringing legal action for accountability. , really,nto something we do want to that kind of accountability. one of the best ways to get all of us accountable is just to make it so the market is transparent on the costs we are causing. we are all in this together. was sayingelly earlier, this hypocrisy of thinking i am righteous and you are not, that is really a

turnoff. we have to realize that we are all in this together. i rode here in a taxi that was emitting co2. , ande all in this together nobody is more righteous than and videos. it is just that we're looking for solutions. the way to solve it is the conservative way to solve it, just make us all accountable, put the costs in, make it so the marketplace is transparent. i start choosing better fuels, and i do so because now all the costs are in and i can see them. host: let me follow up on the first caller who mentioned loretta lynch and climate change deniers. about aa story conservative media site, which reported that the attorney general had to start taking legal action against climate change deniers, focusing on

testimony by loretta lynch, but it appears to exaggerate the extent to which the department of justice has gone after climate change skeptics. according to lynch's office, the action asking the fbi to investigate, it involves exxon mobil. it receivedman said a request in 2015 from two numbers of congress to investigate exxon mobil over claims the oil company misrepresented its own research on global warming. can see how so i that would be blown up into, oh, loretta lynch is going after people for speaking out against a scientific position on climate change. so it sounds like you have got it straight there, it is overstated. but there is this question about whether some people who have an interest in this were actually hiding with a new about climate

change and the science of climate change. the good news for us at republicen.org, and you just mentioned exxon mobil, is they are for what we are for. ofre focused on with the ceo exxon mobil says they are for, which is a revenue neutral carbon tax. no growth to government. apply itjustable and to imports, so they are taxed in the same way. then fix climate change through innovation. host: are you teaming up with exxon mobil? guest: we would like to from your lips to their ears. it is rather strange. we would love to be associated with them. most people working on climate change would say, oh, no, they are not righteous and we cannot deal with them to we say, no, they are great. ,hey delivered natural gas

bringing done omissions or do we do have an issue with huge commissions, of course. natural grass is a great way to reduce co2. fracking was a great think it we pretty unusual in the climate space. host: who is funding your organization? guest: some folks that believe in free enterprise. robertsone, julian has been very helpful to us. i mention him because here is a guy who is a champion of free enterprise and understands the power of free enterprise. he has clearly done quite well with free enterprise. creativity kind of -- we have seen what free enterprise can do, and that is what we hope to spawn across the whole world even. we are grateful for those champions of free enterprise who see it and are willing to help us. host: robin in maryland, go

ahead. ander: good morning, greta, good morning to the former u.s. representative from south carolina, congressman english. well done. guest: thank you, sir. caller: i hope all america is listening, democrats, independents, and republicans. this is why we're conservative. i love your ideas and think you are going in the right direction. why can't we do it like germany? i was there many years ago and bavaria, and there was not a speck of trash and the entire country. you know what i mean. i would like to hear your comments. thank you. guest: that is true. i have done just a little bit of travel in germany, and it is a very clean place. they came to south carolina to the district they used to represent to makes a very fine cars. $6 billion on the ground in spartanburg, south carolina.

are very grateful to have them. one thing i would tell you that we do differently than germany on climate is that there really acting in some funny ways. they have this way of paying people to produce solar on their roofs, which is a great idea, so we are all for solar. the problem is that they are paying through the nose for it, and they have created this in our miss subsidy. meanwhile, they are turning off new gear -- nuclear plants because of an overreaction to fukushima. they are cranking up there late night coal plant, which is a bad move when trying to solve climate >> we leave this recorded portion to take you live to baton rouge, louisiana and a briefing with homeland security secretary jeh johnson and other officials.

>> am certainly proud to be joined by u.s. department of homeland security secretary jeh johnson. i want to thank secretary johnson and all our federal partners for their quick response and for the way they worked with us here not just that the state level but at the local level to respond to this unprecedented historic flooding event, but also to help us plan an effectiveinto and very quick recovery. fema teams are starting today to make assessments. i'm happy to say that the first person close -- post-flood small business administration office open in the town of walker. i want to thank the louisiana department of economic development as they begin opening the centers. i want to stress that we are certainly not out of the woods. as i've been saying for six days now, this is an ongoing event. and inl have floodwaters some cases, record floodwaters

as they moved south. a meet river over on this side of the mississippi river. housing will certainly be a major issue. i want to stress again that if you have not done so, you need to register your damages at disaster assistance.gov. -621-fema.ing 1-800 are not in one of the 20 parishes that are part of a federal major disaster declaration, you can and should register your disaster assistance claim by calling the number that i just gave or going online. had 86,500've registrations with fema for disaster assistance. as many are still waiting on waters to receive, others are

just now beginning the process of bringing out carpet, -- anding out wet drywall removing damage from their homes. i encourage all of you, before that process begins, document your damages by taking photographs. i urge everyone to visit onrgency.la.gov for tips cleanup and protecting your own health during this emergency. it's very important that you clean out your homes and as soon as possible, restore electricity and air-conditioning to make moldthat you don't suffer contamination of your home unnecessarily. imagine, i've traveled from the southeast to southwestern portions of the state over the last few days and together we are working very hard to make sure that every available resource is getting into the hands of the people all across the 20 parishes who most need it.

we are working around the clock to ensure that no request goes unanswered. as of today, we are sheltering 4072 people. this number changes rapidly, but generally, the trend is downward, and that is a good thing. those four, more than 30,000 people have been rescued, and over 1400 deaths. i'm sorry -- i'm sorry to report that the number of fidelity's is now at 13. -- the number of fatalities is now at 13. i want to take you that our local first responders, aided by their state partners, state ,olice, wildlife and fisheries the fire marshal's office, and the national guard have done a tremendous job of safeguarding lives in preserving property. with the 40,000 homes that have state andted so far,

federal assessment teams began going out into the affected parishes. taking care ofa, one another is a way of life and we are on our way from response to recovery. i just ask everyone to continue to be patient and work with us, and as i always do, i ask for continued prayers for the people of louisiana. at this time, i'm going to be followed by secretary johnson, after which congressman richman is going to speak to you. following him we will hear from the ceo of the american red cross. at this time, secretary johnson. jeh johnson: thank you, governor edwards. i'm here to -- here with the governor and members of the cabinet, the governors homeland security and first responder law enforcement officials as well as congressman cedric richmond.

congressman graves was with us earlier and he had to leave. and the head of the red cross, the governor and deputy administrator of fema, regional administrator tony robinson and jerry stoler. i have two word the shelter -- i have toured the shelter in as ascensionents -- parish and some of the more affected areas. i just sat in with the governor on a briefing by his cabinet on the current situation on the ground. if i had to characterize the mood here in the community, it would be with one first responder said to me a few hours ago, whose home had been severely damaged by the flooding. our hearts are broken, but our

faith is strong. the federal government is here, we have been here and will be here as long as it takes to help .his community recover the president has declared a major disaster declaration affecting 20 parishes. that means fundamentally two things. thosedual assistance to who have been personally affected, who had damage to their homes, and public assistance. as the governor said, to become eligible for individual assistance, you must apply by -621-3362,ther 1-800 or through www. disaster assistance.org --.gov. we've had 86,000 individuals apply for federal assistance. this includes assistance in repair of your homes and replacement of certain personal items. once eligible, money can be

transferred to you in a matter of just a few days. we are here to provide public assistance as well in terms of repair of infrastructure, roads and schools. 950resent there are some fema personnel on the ground. we expect another 750, possibly more, in the coming days. we have helped by contributing cots, meals, blankets, water, and other things. our coast guard, which is also part of the department of homeland security is here on the job, immediately in the hours after the flooding began they engaged in search and rescue. the coast guard continues to monitor the situation in the rivers, monitor the water levels. the small business administration, which is a federal agency, is also here to help with small businesses. the red cross is also present and i have to say, for those of

us who have toured the affected areas, this has been a reaffirmation in terms of our ability when a crisis happens to pull together at the federal, state, and local level, to help the public and to help individuals, to help the people that we are sworn to serve. i've been remarkably impressed not only by the spirit and faith, but also by the level of volunteerism that i see in this community and in this state. governor, i want to thank you and commend you for your .eadership in the last week or so it has been exemplary, and i want to thank you for that. i will be briefing the president on the situation that i see here at some point very soon. he is getting daily briefings on the situation here and he cares greatly about the people of louisiana, and on behalf of the president and myself, i want

everyone here to know that the federal government is here. we are devoting a lot of resources and a lot of people to this effort and we pray for everyone here. god bless you. congressman. >> good afternoon. let me start by thanking governor john bel edwards for his leadership during this heres, and i have been during katrina as both a victim in a state rep, and he has provided very steady leadership, especially during the rescue portion of this disaster. i also want to thank secretary jeh johnson, who is here today because he cares, and because it sends a message that the federal government has are back. when you are a state like louisiana where it seems that we are fighting one thing after

it's always reassuring to know that you have a federal partner that will be here to help. i also want to say something about what we are dealing with. so many ofaffected our parishes, but it also effected baton rouge, which is our state capital, where so many of our government workers and our first responders live. and the fact that they are shown up to work every day, they are still making sure that we transition from rescue to recovery, even though they themselves have been victims of this storm. mind that to keep in many of the people use the out here -- many the people you see working out here to make sure that recovery starts are also victims. and let we just conclude with this. i think it is important that people hear this. no matter what neighborhood you

are in, or matter if it is rural or urban, no matter if you are rich or poor, this recovery is going to make it to everyone. and so we may not be on the national news as a headline, we are a headline to the people in that run of louisiana government, and we are a headline to the president of the united states, who has had his secretary of homeland security, administrator few gay, and those who bear the responsibility of helping us recover -- administrator fugate, here on the ground. firsthand, the residents are back. as the water recedes, they are in their gutting and remediating their home and doing the work it takes to start recovery. our commitment is that we will be partners on the street in

every community to make sure we do what is necessary to help our residents get through this disaster and move forward and heal the community. , not onlyou very much the governor and the secretary, but all of the leadership that stands behind me that have been sacrificing from day one, and will keep sacrificing until the job is done. >> let me start by saying on behalf of the entire american red cross, our hearts go out to people of louisiana. this is the second major flood in just five months, and it is by far the largest operation the american red cross has engaged in since superstorm sandy. it is absolutely enormous. drive through the affected area and as far as the eye can see, you can see people's belongings on the curb, you can see where the water

level was. it's really devastating and it's extremely difficult for the residents here. i also want to thank governor edwards, your leadership has been incredible through all of this. your state emergency management crew and team and local emergency management has just been phenomenal, and it's a privilege to be able to work with you. johnson, fema is doing such an outstanding job here and the coordination is tremendous. fast you're of how moving assistance to the people of louisiana and responding, we appreciate that as well. the american red cross has been sheltering a lot of residents here. at the peak there were 10,000 people in shelters in the state. last night there were 8000 in total. as people start moving back into their homes, we are going to move from sheltering to fanning

out to the neighborhood and helping people there. served 100,000 meals and snacks to people in the shelters. we are bringing a group of emergency response vehicles that and out of thein neighborhood's, give people hot meals and also start distributing some bulk relief items like bleach, gloves, mops, things people need to start cleaning out their homes. i would ask the residents of louisiana to be careful, as they start moving back. it's been my experience that , followed by home fires. make sure your wiring is safe, make sure your house is free of mold. we will be here in the community until everybody is back on their feet, and we believe that at the end of this operation, we will $30 million. we are prepared to serve 1.5 million meals and snacks. our volunteers are incredible

and there's been an amazing outpouring of volunteers right here. its neighbors helping neighbors, which is great. volunteer for to the american red cross, please go to our website, red cross.org. people here could use help, and makeyone month -- wants to a financial donation, that would be greatly appreciated as well. inc. you. >> at this time we are going to take questions. i want to follow up on something gail just said. the only downside -- perhaps the national attention is not on it as a relates to donations to the red cross. i don't complain about the assistance we have gotten from the federal government, because it has been superb, but i would ask those people watching in louisiana around the country to seriously consider making a generous donation to the american red cross today, so

that we can speed assistance to those who are needing to recover. we will now take a few questions. yes, sir. >> governor, can you give the folks out there a timetable as to when assistance will be coming? a lot of people have been asking , do you last few days have a timetable? you mentioned a few already but if you could just give us that information. parishes to say seven -- i think we increased that. it's going to be seven parishes will be opening on monday. wer the next three weeks will be in all 20 of the parishes that are declared, each parish will be for a week. that is an announcement think has been made officially to that effect.

it will start in those parishes that are most affected. in terms of further efforts, i would remind you that we are still in a response mode as well nsion parish and st. james and potentially st. john. also acadia parish, and down in jefferson davis parish. we are working again today to formulate a more complete plan for transitioning out of response to recovery, and what that means with respect to the housing options that we will pick from, there nothing easy about this because we have folks from all demographics, some of which had flood insurance and some did not. read ourthe ability to stay in a hotel, others do not. theree some places where is capacity with rental units in hotels and other places where

there are not. every home that has been damaged is not damage to the same extent. it may be easy to get some people in but difficult for others. you have to find the right mix sometions and that takes time. we been working is sensibly, not just here in this building but going out and meeting the big find out what the mix is so that we bring the resources necessary. we will have another meeting this afternoon to try to make some final decisions and we will be communicating those decisions to people very sin. i will continue to ask for patience on this -- to people very sin. we are working as fast as we can work to make this happen. but if people will register their assistance claim with fema the way we mentioned, many of those people are going to have some dollars available to them in as little as 48 hours. so they will just continue that process.

as they are deemed eligible, the spigots will be turned on. [indiscernible] will you be recommending that he come to louisiana and visit? >> of course the president cannot be everywhere. i can take it that the president has been closely monitoring the situation here in louisiana. hours, itmatter of was expedited. we are up to 20 parishes now. i will be briefing him on what i see here and the status of our recovery and response efforts. did therator fugate same thing after his visit here two days ago. president is closely monitoring the situation. he is very much on top of it. as i say, the president cannot

be everywhere. i know he has a very busy anddule in the coming days he is closely monitoring the situation. the chief executive of the entire u.s. government cannot be everywhere, including places you would like to be, but through me and through craig few gate, i know he's very much on top of the situation. >> how hard is it, it if your updates are going to the president on the golf course? as i said, he's very much on top of the situation and he is aware of the level of april assistance it can be provided. i will be briefing him myself right after this visit. >> yesterday a federal judge in arizona issued an order [indiscernible]

jeh johnson: i'm aware of the decision. i have not personally reviewed it and i have no comment at this. >> [indiscernible] the question was the number of housing vouchers that have been given out. issues no longer vouchers. with regard to temporary housing, we are working very closely with the state to look at all possible options. as the governor mentioned, depending on the extent of damage to a survivors home, that will dictate what solution each survivor household will be made available to them. >> in terms of the house to house searches, can you say how that is going? how long it will take before they can search all the houses

and cars that need to be and has any fema eight started flowing to the state or individuals that you know of? a number of individuals who have registered have already been deemed eligible for assistance and the spigots have been turned on. whether we are able to deliver that assistance electronically or by mail determines how fast it gets to them. aboutlly it's going to be 48 hours or a little longer if it is male. secondly, with respect to the urban search and rescue, we are very thankful to have a team in from texas to assist in this effort, but the effort overall is being led by the state fire marshal, who really developed search-and-rescue here in louisiana and they are doing a phenomenal job. they are just about finished it'slivingston parish, and

obviously necessary to do the secondary search. i want to make sure people know what we're talking about. from homeswe rescued are those we knew about who were stranded or people who called and asked for help. now that we are asked -- past that point in the crisis in most of the area where we are still undergoing response, it's now time to go back and do a comprehensive search house by house, whether or not there was a call for assistance to make sure there isn't someone in that house who was unable to call for assistance and who may need help. but it's not just the houses, it's the automobiles, because we have automobiles that were washed off of roads and down creeks and rivers. so we are searching automobiles too. we dispatch and urban search and ion parishm to ascens today. this is a partial report of what happened yesterday but it will give you an idea of how

important this is. of the first 800 homes that we searched yesterday in livingston parish, more than 30 homes had had not yet been assisted. they didn't know how to ask for help, i guess. many of them were elderly and frail. onertunately we discovered deceased and that was the 12 confirmed fidelity. it is critically important that we go door to door. unlike some things you saw in we're not having to do forced entry, but in very many -- we werevolves able to mark the residences having been searched with chol rather than paint. we've learned a lot of lessons over the years and were bringing them to bear in this search and rescue. i want to address something

about the question that was just asked of secretary johnson. it easy to focus i guess on things that have not happened. i want you to know that within hours of me requesting a federal presidentn, the granted the declaration and called me to discuss it. secondly, i been in contact with the white house just about every day. spent severalma hours here with me on tuesday. today we have secretary jeh johnson here with us, as you can see. he was dispatched here by the president. today the general who is the four-star general over the guard component and a member of the joint chiefs of staff spent hours with us here today. we've had the major general in charge of the corps of engineers here today. i am not complaining in any way about our federal partnership. the president is welcome to

visit whenever he wants to visit , and whenever he wants to visit we will receive him and do whatever is necessary to make sure that visit goes off without a hitch. however, if you remember a few weeks ago when the vice president came to the memorial of the police officers who were shot and killed, if you recall the impact that had on our community with respect to closing down interstate, the security that was required and also police officers locally you had to be taken from other duties in order to provide that security, quite frankly, that is not something that i want to go through right now. so while the president is welcome to visit, i would just as soon he give us another week to get back to a greater sense of normalcy here, and then he can visit. i will say that differently, he can visit whenever he wants to. [laughter] abouthink were talking

mid term long-term solutions for housing. >> we mentioned that a while ago. we cannot get the right mix determined until we know more about the population who is affected. we are working feverishly to figure out exactly who they are, whether they had flood insurance of they did not, whether they have helped to get back in their homes, whether their homes can be fixed in a matter of hours, or whether it will take days or weeks, and where all these people are geographically. when we have a better feel, we will know whether and how many manufactured housing units to order, what the rental capacity because wehanges, have a lot of people in hotels today, for example, and that sort of thing. we will have more definitive announcements forthcoming very the teamand i told this morning that we are going to work this evening and tonight

so that if possible, we will have more definitive announcements tomorrow, before the weekend, so people can know what to expect and when they can expect it. >> kelly get an update on schools -- can we get an update on schools? >> we will get you the but thaton on schools, really wouldn't be the best question to ask right now. there's been a lot said in the last couple of days about the -- like in new orleans there was billions of dollars spent protection after katrina. >> will this in a clarion call to double down on those efforts? do you think it would've made a difference had that been up and running in this flood event? the flood project is very

important. the making,cades in and there's not much progress, as you know. it is impossible to know whether flooded haduld have that project been in place, but the fact of the matter is, we everywhere.looding we are going to move forward with that project as quickly as possible. i've already had a meeting today with the major general of the corps of everywhere engineers as meeting with separate group right now discussing that project and we are trying to get it moving as quickly as possible, because we do believe aid in terms of flood control, but obviously it was not in place and it's hard to guess just what extent the flooding would have been lessened. i will be followed by congressman richman.

>> if history is any indicator, which i think it is, we've made a lot of noise for a long time about flood control, levee protection in new orleans. katrina came and we got unprecedented money from the government to get it done. you look back to hurricane isaac, the project which protects the river parishes had been dangling for 43 years. we finally got engineers report and were now going to move forward with the project. other projects will go in similar fashion because it highlights the importance. similar to what the governor said, i don't think there has been mapping or anything yet that will say what effect not having it had, but what we do know is that in a state like every project, every levee we have makes us safer. i'm sure that the delegation

will go back with renewed vigor to try to get expedited. what events like this do is magnify to the core what we have been fighting for the whole time. that this will go along the same lines of the west shore project and metro new orleans flood recovery projects. thank you all very much. >> the news conference from baton rouge with homeland security secretary jeh johnson. also the governor of louisiana, john bel edwards. we heard from congressman said -- cedric richmond and other officials. the department of homeland security putting out those pictures from earlier today, as secretary johnson toured some of the flood ravaged areas. historic flooding in the state of louisiana. several members of congress

accompanying secretary johnson and other officials as they tour the area. we spoke with one of those congressman that was with secretary johnson earlier today. >> republican representative gary graves of louisiana is joining us. he's been accompanying homeland security secretary jeh johnson in louisiana today. congressman graves, thanks for joining us. historic lighting in your state, where do things stand in your district right now? >> the northern part of the are pivotingks from rescue toward recovery. sheet rock,ng out carpeting and floors and trying to salvage what they can from their homes. other districts continue to have water in many of the homes and are just waiting to -- for the waters to receipt and are biding their time in some of the area shelters.

things are ramping up and getting to the place they need to be. the warnings and evacuations that should have preceded this disaster. >> this forces you to look ahead little bit, but is this something you believe congress will have to allocate more money to, the specific flooding event? >> i do. this is an historic event and in it reach awe've seen 1000 year flood event. we have communities that received over 30 inches of rain within just a brief time. multiples ofhat is

what some areas in the nation received in a year. we're working with other rooms of congress to see with that recovery package looks like. >> how many people have been displaced and how long do you think they may be displaced? >> it really varies in different areas. in some areas 95% of the homes took on water. obviously we are working as quick as we can to get folks back. we have several thousand people that remain in shelters right now. in some of our communities we will be up to do quick fix jobs and get people back in their homes within weeks at least on a temporary fix basis. other folks that had water to the roof or above, it will obviously build much longer recovery. overall this is going to be a multiyear recovery for our community. tellingare you louisiana residents are the next steps they need to be taking as the recovery continues?

humids really hot and here in the summers, so the truth is that you've got to get into these homes and rip out the sheet rock and get the floors pulled up as quick as possible to prevent mold from setting in. once mold sets in, it's really difficult to get rid of. obviously getting folks signed up for different assistance important,d most everyone is coming together. you have strangers walking into houses in helping to rip out sheet rock and carpet and do other temporary cleanup measures, pulling mud out, so it's great to see the community stepping up and coming together to help out neighbors. >> what will you be doing over the next few days? >> we will be helping people clean their homes out. we're spending a lot of times working on different policy solutions and looking at the recovery. you can imagine folks who have law -- you have $200,000 left on their mortgage and they've lost

their home and their cars. it does not allow you to move forward. we are working on what the right type of policy solutions look like to help recover this area as quickly as possible. imagine many of these folks are well outside the andred year floodplain don't have flood insurance, which makes it a very difficult situation to recover from. >> good luck to you, congressman garret graves. good luck to you and all the members of your district and state as the recovery effort continues there in louisiana. we very much appreciate you being with us today. >> thank you. >> coming up tonight at 8:00 eastern, it's a look at black markets and cyber. ,e's a preview of the program talking about the world of black

markets and cyber criminals. in time, 10 or 15 years ago, cybercrime or hacking an ad hocsisted of network of individuals largely motivated by ego and notoriety. they wanted to show off to their friends. resumented to have a boost. they want to prove to themselves and their friends at they could do this kind of thing. this was the age of the long olf hacker. as time went on, more technologically savvy individuals entered the world. more competing components got connected. more people recognized the opportunity that there was by hacking for financial profit. especially criminal enterprises recognize the low risk and potential for high reward by getting into the cybercrime gain.

as such, motivations shifted from ego and notoriety to making money and financial gain. event on black markets and cybercrime was held at the rand corporation headquarters in santa monica, california. see it tonight at 8:00 eastern here on c-span. for campaign 2016, c-span continues on the road to the white house. >> we need serious leadership. this is not a reality tv show. it's as real as it gets. >> we will make america great again. >> ahead, live coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates on c-span, the c-span radio app, and www.c-span.org. monday, september 26 is the first presidential debate. on tuesday, october 4, vice presidential candidates governor mike pence and senator tim kaine debate in virginia.

and washington university in st. louis hosts the second presidential debate, leading up to the third and final debate between hillary clinton and donald trump, taking place on october 19. live coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates on c-span. listen live on the free c-span radio app or watch anytime on-demand at www.c-span.org. >> now to -- university professors involved in workplace studies and migration look at the future work in america and compare the effect of climate change on today's workplace economy with the 1930's dust bowl and great depression. from stanford university in april, this runs about an hour and 15 minutes. >> i think we are going to get started. i margaret leavy and i'm the eventor of the center for

study and behavioral sciences. i'm delighted to have you all here tonight for what promises to be a great talk by two people. you may be wondering why there are so many cameras in the back. we have not only our normal video -- videographer here, so that we can put this talk on the web for those who are unfortunate enough not to be hear it again,o but we also have c-span here, so those of you who want to watch it sometime later this year and some hour or another, it will be available, we are told. we will let you know when that is the case. let me introduce our speakers, and i will be very short and therefore somewhat unfair to them as i want to get on to hearing them and not having you here me. associate professor of history and as of this fall, director of the institute for workplace studies, industrial

and labor relations, cornell university. he is the author of several popular books. he is now completing the deep history of the economy as well as co-authoring a book with me, tentatively entitled supply-side it. he is one of the leaders among a group who are revising and revisiting the history of u.s. capitalism, with a nuanced perspective of the particular release of how businesses and finance have developed in this country, and with what impacts on the social structure and any quality.

other speaker is associate professor of public policy at the wagner school of nyu. and an a stanford ba m.i.t. phd. she spent part of her youth in lila, where her aunt winner of the prestigious goldman environmental prize, involved her in helping garbage workers learn recycling techniques. so she has had a very amazing youth that has led to some very amazing work and perspectives on work. the taj is an expert on migration and its relationships dignity of work, not just to the work and contracts but also the dignity of work. her first book, 40 years of migration and development policy and morocco and mexico, as well as the one she is currently

completing on immigrants and contract laborers who work in the construction industry in qatar, not only deepen our understanding of the role of immigrants in international labor and development, they also make us three think the common conception of what it means to be skilled. a lot of people we look at and think they are unskilled, actually encompass and embody very important skills that deserve our respect. nata is helping us see that. sha there are several others here who are also engaged. , see catherine and margaret and maureen, i saw you earlier. phyllis, i thought i saw you. have i forgotten somebody? probably. uso is here, who helped start the project.

maria is here, who is now at mother jones. she helped us get that started. i am pleased to welcome all of you to what promises to be a great talk. [applause] >> first of all, thank you all for coming out tonight to join us in this conversation about what are probably the two happiest subjects you can imagine, the future of work and climate catastrophe. when we think about the future of work, it struck us that perhaps many of us are worried about the uber economy that we see dominating the conversation, especially outside of silicon valley. that the future

of climate catastrophe might be just a little bit narrow. that in fact taxi drivers are important to the conversation, but it's not the whole conversation. climate change is harder. strikes us as something more difficult to get a grasp on. think about the future and the rise of robots, we should also be thinking about the rise of the ocean. can'tl argue that you think about one without thinking about the other. to think about climate change without considering the future of the economy