could keep the ship's bell and keep all those crew members retired and present current with the heart of the ship. it's good for people to come and see this place and understand how they live, work and what they did here are in that should not be lost. this is coast guard history of this country. that is why the museum is important. it is a time capsule. it is american history. it started under a war had itsent, and it makings to do a big job and to continue that job as part of history. it's a lesson. our hope is that to get it to the point where we can bring up

the youngsters behind us and have one that doesn't have a captain, path, to be a a mechanic, to learn about what happens when you pull together exactly what you can do. >> our visit to port huron is an american history lose it we showed it today to introduce you to c-span city tour. for five years we have traveled to cities across the u.s. to explore. you can watch more of this at c-span.org/cities to work -- cities tour. we kick offmoment our primetime programming with our newsmakers interview with gop political consultant roger

stone. let's check in with a couple of members of congress may have been following it does. today, roll call sure to video ,f montana's two senators switching each other a happy birthday. let's take a look. happy birthday, john. i can't think of a better present.-- happy birthday. >> happy 39th birthday for the 15th time. it is also -- always good to be able to exchange gifts with friends and folks who are work with. i just want you to know you will

get a bottle of safflower oil for your birthday. this is organic. this was raised on the tester on -- init was pressed big sandy. it will make you live another 39, 40, 50, maybe even 54 more years. >> congress is back to work on tuesday, september 6. -- is like.ive news from the campaign trail today, donald trump campaign chairman paul manafort submitting his resignation following a staffing shakeup earlier in the week here at politico reports that paul manafort had come under fire over his stamp lon greenberg for progression you caning as ukrainian oligarchs.

an wel you earlier this week caught up with roger stone, republican political consultant and a longtime friend of donald trump. tonight that interview. he talks about what we should expect from the presidential debate and issues that could effect -- affect the election. this interview took place before all men for resigned from the trunk campaign that's donald trump campaign. is roger stone. thank you for being a newsmakers. in washington we also have with us monica langley and alex isenstadt was national political order at politico. mr. stone, tell our viewers how andn you talk to mr. trump

are you advising him of his campaign? 439t: i have known donald years. we talk from time to time. the conversations are personal and private. , a veteran ofiter nine republican campaign for president of the united states. i have great affection for donald trump and his family and i am a strong soup order. even i am shocked by the incredible way he won the republican nomination based on force of personality and all communications strategy. i count myself as a trump friend. i have no formal nor in formal role but i do have access to all the right people. i want to ask you about the news of the day which is the

big shakeup that happened this week with stephen bannon taking .ver the campaign do you think this is a good move and could you talk about these people and why you think guest: they have been elevated? i argue with your premise. i don't think stephen bannon has taken over the campaign, he has joined the campaign team. kelly and was already deeply involved in the campaign and already had a title. that implies somebody laughed, it will not happen. trump operation has always been more skeletal than the clinton model is where you have hundreds of employees on the campaign payroll. stephen bannon is a friend of mine a fellow revolutionary. he thinks outside of the box. mosts written some of the interesting, strongest and most interesting and important

exposes of clinton corruption, including bills sexual assaults on women and the reactions of who he has assaulted, and hillary's role in that. say that is atics conspiracy theory. drop in bed with the russians and paul manafort, that's a conspiracy theory. i like stephen bannon quite a bit. he thinks outside the box. it will take this kind of thinking to overcome the clinton machine. that,to follow-up on roger, i met you. you don't remember this but we were both really young in 1988 to you were a partner then with paul manafort. that he is in some

by stephenover bannon or kellyanne conway do think he maintains his vision as chairman? guest: it is not true. paul manafort has deep experience in presidential politics. stephen bannon, who i love, has none. kelly and six areas dates dates to ted cruz. they are all multi talented individuals. metaphor remains the chairman. job was to bring order to the campaign and he has done that. this is an expansion rather than a shakeup. guest: what impact do you think banning will have on the

campaign? back toee trump going more of his old ways during the primaries? one thing i have written is this allows trump to fashion the campaign in his own image. do you agree with that and what impact do you think we will see going forward in the fall? think there's any evidence that he has changed his campaign style since the primaries. he is unscripted. he is unprogrammed, he is not phony and reading off of polling or focus groups usually is not by the senior staff, he's not using talking points. he is genuine and authentic. that is what is working for donald trump. i think the good news here is

that bannon may succeed in sharpening the attack on hillary. a corruption of the foundation, her tenure at the state department, the e-mail issues. it seems to me to have a scandal a day when it comes to hillary clinton. sadly, the new york times, oh by the largest single donor to the hookon foundation likes to up stories about paul manafort, one whenhem on page there is no evidence that he did anything illegal. disgraceful. beneath the standards of the new york times. but where is the story on the clinton foundation? a lot has transpired there.

times ofoverage in the those scandals has been scant, to say the least. guest: you have been doing this a long time and the reality is you look at the polling in swing states and there is little doubt that donald trump is behind. can you speak on why that is the case? is it anyone's fault? done somethingp wrong on the campaign trail and what can be done to try to fix that as we head into the labor day holiday. becauseirst of all, donald trump was ahead immediately after the republican national convention, democrats that structurally he can win the race. that is significant. i have been looking at a lot of the polls and in a place to i see a lot of range in the big states. i do think he has to make this election about hillary, but at

the same time the mainstream media has tried hard to make this race about donald trump. , hillary,ent represents four more years of exactly what we have now, worse. it has to be a referendum on her and the democrats. they are the ones in power. some of your colleagues, not you, but some of your colleagues have been almost hysterical in their attempts to discredit or embarrass donald trump. when he makes an era -- error, he's not an experienced politician and will make hillary has awhen press conference or refuses to comment on new e-mails showing her doing favors for multinational corporations or foreign national governments, again, that gets very little coverage. i think the coverage has affected these numbers. it would be really good if some

immediate would cover the substance of donald trump speeches. guest: one way you make this about your opponent is by framing them in campaign as. was it a mistake for donald trump campaign to not be running ads.- spent $60inton has million so far running these at. -- ads. what did they get you? primaries, i think we have reached the time in america where the ubiquitous negative tv ads are not having the effect that they once had. voters have become very skeptical of that. they are very dissatisfied. they know that special interest

paid for those ads. i think voters more and more are seeing paid advertising with a jaundiced eye. that's not to say that the donald trump campaign will not run them, but donald himself is not a huge believer in paid advertising. he seems to have been borne out. you are blaming a lot of the problems in the media but of trump has made a lot enforced heirs. last two to three weeks have been difficult for these errorsade and not been able to exploit the things you've mentioned, the campaign of clinton should have exploited.

having you think, stephen bannon there will help them to get off the case of clinton because he knows a lot about hillary and bill clinton? do you think it will help them ?ake less enforced heirs -- errors. now that he feels better with the new team and caught between wanting to follow his gut instincts but wanting to follow -- forced to be a normal politician? he now feels so much better this week, he has performed better on the trail with the speeches he has done. there has been a renewed donald trump coming into labor day? and do thingst stephen bannon will help him stay focused on clinton? i think steve bannock can

help him sharpen the attack on the clinton record or it i also think that stephen bannon brings a deep understanding of the new media. this is something that has been missing from that donald trump effort. although donald is set the world on fire in terms of his personal twitter account, which has become one of the greatest communication tool sets the night -- new york times. but it has not been sophisticated image use of the new media, of which bannon is an expert. you'll see a more aggressive campaign. that is significant. major in the middle of a shift away from broadcast television, away from cable to more specified and targeted digital advertising. millennials voters, who are going to be particularly in been in this election are not watching cable or broadcast, they are watching their devices when they feel like it. i think that is a sea change

that bannon deeply understands. i have been watching your twitter account. you continue to be very critical of corey lewandowski, donald trump's first campaign manager. i'm wondering why that is. why you felt the need to speak out against corey lewandowski. do you think he said the campaign back and how do you see that? -- set the campaign back? guest: when you put out a tweet and connect the new york times story, which is bogus, but attacked donald trump's campaign chairman, i don't understand how you can think that helps the campaign or help donald trump. in this case where the story is a -- is nothing. not the subject of an investigation, there are no bank records that say he received an

illicit $12 million. all of his filings are proper because he never represented the russian or ukrainian government. the constant shooting of mac for -- metaphor is counterproductive. what do you expect from an advance man. he thinks she can get over the fact that he really hurt his campaign. they are still building organizations in the state, things that you should have done , that have been done months ago. he will continue to attack the and attacked the campaign chairman i will continue to attack cam. guest: what you about the wikileaks founder's suggestion -- or your suggestion that there will be an october surprise to get hillary clinton and her e-mails from her two closest aides. can you tell us about that? i hear there's something explosive to come down the pike.

have you spoken with the wikileaks founder? guest: i think julian assange is a hero. i should say that i see that election in these terms. unlike any presidential candidate we have had previously which have been republicans versus democrats, this campaign is insiders versus an outsider. it is the leadership of the elites of the republican and democratic party versus donald trump and everyone else. assange has been a deep critic of the bush administration. and no, communications i have not speak and to him or not him. i never said i had. i said we communicated through an intermediary, somebody who is a mutual friend. i believe that he is in possession of all of those aides leave clinton they deleted.

that and a lot more. these are going to come back, they are indelible. the bonus will find them highly informational or it i don't know that this will happen in october or it there is an enormous amount of material here. theoreticallyuld drop a bunch of delegates before each one of these debates. i think it's important to point out that the dnc documents that implicated deborah wasserman did not come from the russians, as hillary and her camp have said that they have come from christopher, too. themt no traction he took out and they got enormous traction. i expect you are going to see more from mr. assange who again, i think is a hero. guest: the next big event on

will be then and first presidential debate coming up in september. what do you think we could expect him donald trump in that debate in terms of what he will say and substance. you think his performance in the republican debate, what does that tell us how he will perform in the general election? guest: i think you did very well in the republican debates. i think he won almost all of them. there is one i would call a draw, but i think he performed in all of them, in view of the fact that he is never done this before. all of his opponents had run for state and local offices. the only thing predictable about donald trump is the fact that he is on -- unpredictable. you don't know where he is going to come at hillary. you don't know whether it's quite to be in regard to bill selling military

secrets, missile guidance secrets to the chinese in return for campaign contributions, or whether it will be the 1994 crime bill that incarcerated an entire generation of black men, african-americans for diet -- nonviolent times -- crimes. hillary said it was necessary because blacks were super predators who needed to be brought to heel. also on the foundation or maybe it will focus on benghazi and in lies that hillary told the testimony before congress. or perhaps it will be this new round of lies that she apparently told to the congress regarding her e-mail. you never know where donald trump might come, but he is a brawler. him -- call from a misogynist again he will open the door to the full story of

.any women guest: would you advise donald trump tube bring up bill -- past? state guest: bill clinton is not running for president. hillary clinton led the campaign to intimidate, bully, and threaten those women into silence. is a provable fact. i expect in the fall that many of these women will be speaking out. i know that the clinton needs to -- that people will seek to discredit them. all of that is false. anybody who has better rate or sexual assault does not want to

relive it on the front pages of the newspapers. it is relevant to hillary. i think attacking bill clinton's record is only salient when it is relevant to hillary, where she has defended it, supported in this case-- where she acted as an excess reactor the fact what i consider to be sex crimes. one thing that trump and you have alleged frequently is that this election could be rigged. why do say that? do you think that is a dangerous thing to be saying for democracy? guest: it is a dangerous thing to not be same. yes, i believe there is a distinction between folder fraud and election --. folder fraud is somewhat limited . it is not nonexistent as some say, it is as a minimum,

limited. it will be focused around and -- in an attempt to have illegals vote in certain states. what is different is the fixing of the machine, which is very easily done. in annexon professor 22 arofile and politico, number of situations where it --ht have occurred during occurred. they conduct exit polls in which they compare the results of the exit polls to be results and machines. the other way it could be kept -- presented is to allow a third-party, truly unbiased and honest to look at the software before the voting begins. hillte aps on this at the -- a piece on this at the hill and show that the voting machines were rigged.

i think it is a reality. anybody who believes these machines cannot be rigged easily bye not been rigged easily the party in power in the states is being denied -- naive, and my opinion. you can take the $15 device you can get at rest by or radioshack and use itll exist, in the most common machine used in the u.s. this is a real issue in those who deny are putting their heads in the sand. rigged fornes can be a desired result. , ofprecursor to that course, is to inflate the polls, so you create an expectation and then deal with the total number machinesmake the

reflect that outcome. so when the sample on the inflated, itde was is evidenced to me that this may be what is afoot. guest: there have been a lot of reports about tension between various members of donald trump's campaign. i wonder if you buy those reports. also, what if anything does that say about donald trump's leadership style. what about future person just to come in the campaign? guest: i'm not sure i can address the first heart of your question. thatecond part, i do think the donald trump campaign will continue to expand and bring in new people. they are running a very skeletal, low-cost operation. this is a guerrilla campaign versus a well oiled, longtime political machine.

i liken that to the british royal army opposing the american colonists. metaphor will and have greater for daschle have greater flexibility and a greater understanding of the new media we can make it a race. guest: what does the republican party stands for today? you wererst met you working for the first george bush. today you are advising the ultimate outsider. you have gone from one extreme to the next. be clear, i have never been a bush republican. entitled, "the ."sh crime family george bush beat michael dukakis by one point in california.

hasy republican president remade the party and his own image. lincoln, grant, mckinley, eisenhower, nixon, reagan. successful,ump is he will remake the party and his image. it will no longer be a wall street party. as someone with great sentimental attachment to the republican party of very goldwater, i am afraid my party has morphed into the big-money party. ourparty that has eroded civil liberties. supported bailouts for swindlers and crooks on wall street. the party of an incoherent but expensive neocon foreign-policy. i think the party will change. it is already changed. it was a hostile

takeover of the old republican party. the old republican party is tied to 30 years of bipartisan bad decision-making. the policies of the bushes and the clintons have been essentially identical. they have led us to where we are today. , thank you forne being this week's newsmaker. in host: let me turn to our reporters for a quick wrap up. , donald trump likes to recognize the polls when he is ahead. what is happening now with polling? >> the numbers are what they are. there is little thracian of data -- there is proliferation of data in swing states across the country.

he is behind significantly and that is a real problem. time is running short. it is almost labor day. early voting begins in some of the states and trump hasn't really begun running tv ads at all. is starting to run against the clock. >> monica langley, you broke the story about these staff changes. what were you told about these changes that were happening? >> when i called him two nights ago as he was about to go on stage and wisconsin and i wanted to confirm that he was shaking confirm that he was shaking up his campaign, and i said, why are you doing this right now and he said, i want to win, plain and simple. was a big lover of the polls when he was ahead so now he is not touting the

polls. clearly, by saying i want to win, he is reasserting that, i am not going to take this sitting down. , i am afraidat is i wouldn't if i didn't do something. iis is the first time he felt have to remake this campaign to support the person i am and he did it from the big step of bringing in a new ceo to the small step of moving his campaign from the sixth floor in , concrete floor with folding tables and chairs, to putting them on the 14th floor with corporate setting. he said, we are running this like a business in my brand where i have been successful. this is going to be my campaign, my way. >> you have access to him by phone? that toccessible like reporters? >> if