make camp is put a chunk of ice in the pot to melt. and then you drink because you are very thirsty. and more is put in for cooking. >> what did they do before all of these things? gretel: they ate it raw. two women on the beach and after talking the morning, i saw them butchering a seal and they took out the liver and were holding it up and signaled for me to take a bite, it was still steaming. >> what did they do for water before that? gretel: that is a good question. blubber.

i have been traveling for about a month. here is no wood. in alaska, not greenland. neil: there were some wood implements but it was very precious. [laughter] retel: yes, blubber. it's how they keep warm and get off a little flame. there are people who still tend blubber lamps. somehow that was kind of lost in greenland. they had vikings to help hem. the inuit people had slightly ifferent influences. >> did you say that greenland is going to be drilling for oil? neil: they have lent out leases

to explore for oil. the last i heard, they had not found any. yes, they have let out leases to explore for oil. gretel: many felt this was a terrible idea. self-rule, they can do what they want. >> ok. i was wondering about the sleds, they were made up wood? gretel: brought in by ship from denmark. when i first got there, there was a once a year supply ship to the northern villages. i spent one summer with a man and his family and he had built his own shack. he said, i was halfway through building my house and the supply ship could not get here because it was too cold.

we had no nails in the entire village for a whole another year. it teaches patients. -- patience. >> the inuits across the north, are they in communication as cultures across the area? gretel: yes. it happens every four years in some arctic nation. i came with the greenland contingent. it is not open to other people. it operates like the u.n.. everyone has headphones because the dialects are so different. and the russians who speak russian. it includes all the way. it is a very dynamic group. they are very much involved in things, yes.

>> i would like to thank both of you and congratulations for he excellent presentation. i have a question. according to maya, man has taken advantage of all the resources of the world and the world would end in the year 2000. not exactly 2000, but after 2000. glaciolojist, is there an estimate about how long the world will be able to survive if we still tried to make it survive? thank you. gretel: if there is, they have not told me. i would be the last to know. don't think so.

neil: one more. >> a lot of pressure. i was wondering if you found that the cultures were superstitious or did anything outside of the normal? gretel: i mean, -- neil: the story about the shaman and the polar bear. gretel: yence is a special person. he has some -- he is a natural leader. he would never call himself a shaman. he thinks that is not appropriate for the 21st century. one time we were weathered in and he began telling a story. when he talks everybody falls silent. he said, i was in my tent.

normally we live in tents that are put over two sleds put together, old battered canvas tents. i was in the tent and the dogs started barking. there was a polar bear on this piece of ice. i grabbed my rifle. i went running towards the bear. suddenly, the bear was at the top and the bear turned around and i saw that it had a human ace. he said -- i went away. he said, several times that bear has beckoned to me to come with it. he said but i'm a modern man and i couldn't leave my family and i couldn't leave my society is -- we when so much

are trying so hard to survive in the modern world. i couldn't do it. neil: instead of going over the .ill with the bear -- gretel: he is the equivalent of a senator for greenland. he does conferences all over europe. he loves nothing more than being out with his dogs. his nirvana. neil: thank you all for coming. e appreciate it. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national able satellite corp. 2016

announcer: coming up shortly on c-span's road to the white house coverage, we'll be democratic vice president candidate tim kaine in tallahassee, florida. 'll have that for you live here on c-span. ere on c-span. that event with senator tim kaine just getting underway. we'll take you there live to tallahassee, florida, live now. >> it's women's equality day because on august 26, 1920, the federal government certified that enough states had ratified the 19th amendment to the constitution giving women the

right to vote and 96 years later, we're about to make the first woman president of the united states. that's what's so very exciting for me to be on the ticket. i'll just say, when hillary asked me about a month ago, i was so proud to work with somebody, president obama said this about her at the convention, that she would be the most qualified individual to be a nominee of a major party in the history of this party and i am proud to be a partner with hillary clinton like a lot of strong men in this country, my political career has been built on a foundation of support from strong women like my wife, campaign managers, cabinet secretaries, the agency heads, voters, donors, volunteers, and now i'm a strong man ready to play that supportive role to make sure our strong woman, hillary clinton, is our next president. we all feel the same way? there is a lot at stake in this university and i think you

understand this at famu. this is a wonderfully historic black college and university with a great tradition. we have a great h.b.c.u.s in virginia, too. virginia union is two miles from our house. virginia state, norfolk state, your homecoming opponent this year, hampton university, in virginia, i mean, hey, we're all in the family, we're all in the family. hbcu's playing an important role producing 65% of minority engineers in the country overwhelming numbers of minority physicians, dentists, veterinarians, scientists, hbcu's has a role that is every bit as important today tomorrow as it was when universities like samu were founded. give it up all for famu and all of the great hbcus that are an mportant part of this country. hillary clinton and i

understand the importance. we have an initiative to grow jobs in the 21st century to invest $25 billion in h.b.c.u. so question keep training the talent pool for the 21st centuryment that's together with other investments, prek education, career and technical education, get free college for americans, that's something we an do. and these are the issues that are at stake in this election. you know, if i can just say, there are a lot of issues that are at stake in the election, since i started off and i talked about women's equality day, let's just take equality. let's just take the principal that we stated in 1776 would be the north star for our nation, when virginians put that in the declaration of independence, they weren't living that way. nobody was living that way, but still they had a wisdom to tell

them to put that out as a north star that would measure our progress as a people. and for 240 years, we have been knocking down one barrier after the next trying to live more like we said we were going to live in 1776. that's something to think about on women's equality day and that's something to think about as we approach this election. i think you know hillary clinton's history. she was a law student at yale who could have done anything, instead she said i want to work with the children's defense fund. she went to south carolina to help investigate racial disparities in the juvenile justice system, went to alabama to investigate disparities in the school system. as a young lawyer, anne and i got out of law school and anne worked with legal raid in virginia and i was a civil rights lawyer battling against housing discrimination. at the very time we were doing these things, donald trump was starting out, too. his firm was getting sued for

racial discrimination in the issuance of housing. this is a fundamental difference between the two tickets and fundamental to the values that we hold as a nation. you have also seen hillary clinton as a first lady of arkansas, build up maternal and child health as the first lady of this country, worked so that 8 million low income kids can have health insurance. as a senator fighting for military family, fighting for first responders health after the 9/11 attacks and the secretary of state making sure that women and children in the countries around the world had the attention of the u.s. government. hillary clinton has had a career and track record of success and support for equality and the causes that we hold dear. donald trump, let me just be honest, donald trump has a different point of view. you heard during the campaign. he has ridiculed people with disabilities. he has ridiculed people if they were mexican american organizin. he has said that anybody who is

muslim should be treated as second class religiously. that's not the way we do things in this country. it's not the way we do things. donald trump was a main guy behind the bigoted notion that president obama wasn't even born in this country and donald trump has continued to push that irresponsible falsehood from all the way up until now. that's the difference in this election and that's the stakes. yesterday hillary clinton gave a speech in reno, nevada, calling out donald trump on a lot of things on this equality idea, calling him out on the fact that he has supporters like david duke connected with the can you clux clan who are saying that droump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, they're not our values and we got to do all we can to fight and push

back and win, we're heading toward that north star that we set out so long ago. that gets down to the reason for this rally. the reason that we're here at amu, you have a superb reputation of any university of student activism and getting people to understand the critical importance of voting. so we're starting actually a national movement with hbcus and other universities as colleges are coming back into session to talk to students about registering and voting and we want famu to lead the way. are you ready to do that? it is a very, very important thing. you know, we have seen in tates all over the country significant efforts by governors and legislatures to narrow down the right to vote, to narrow down early voting, to increase i.d. requirements, to

basically make it tougher for people to vote. you might have seen just a few weeks ago, there was a court decision about the state of north carolina where a federal court found as a matter of fact that the highest officials in the state had acted "with surgical precision to make it more difficult for african-americans to vote" for anybody that cares about small d democracy, the efforts of state officials to put burdens in the way, reduce participation and do it in a discriminatory way has to call us to righteous righteous organization so we can show those tactics won't succeed. we can do that here in florida. we can do it in virginia. we can do it all over the country. here is one thing i would ask you to do. i would ask you to do this. if you're talking to friends and family and trying to persuade people about the virtues of the clinton-kaine

ticket or persuade people to vote and doing that is important because, you know, folks don't really pay attention to the tv ads anymore. they don't really believe them. they still believe the person to person, talking to a friend, somebody you go to church with, somebody you're in class with, a family member, even calling as a volunteer and talking to somebody you don't know, when they hear you're a volunteer, here is what they think. wow, they didn't have to do this. they're a volunteer, but they're taking think time because it's important to them, maybe it ought to be important to me. when you're doing that to encourage people to vote, if you hear somebody say to you, i don't think my vote matters, then i want to tell you what you say to them. you should say, well, the other side sure thinks it matters because an awful lot of people are doing an awful lot of work to put restrictions and way to reduce votes of african-americans, to reduce of young folks, if they think your

vote matters so much that they want to try to make it harder to vote, then i hope you conclude that your vote is valuable, they sure think it does. that's what we need to do. we need strong support of young voters and voters of all ages and you're in a unique position to be able to do this. let me tell you how, what the dates are in florida. every state's rules are different and many of you famu students are from florida originally. some of you might not be, here are the rules. the last day to register to vote in florida is october 11. that is the last day. so between now and october 11, register because i can tell you this. florida will be one of the closest, possibly the closest battleground states this election and your vote will really matter. second, register by october 11 and then early voting in florida, in person early voting starts on saturday, october 29, and it goes all the way to the

following saturday, november 5, early voting is very important because some people are working or it's difficult for them just to vote on that one day, tuesday november 8. so those are the two dates to remember. register by october 11 and then be there for early voting october 29 through saturday, november 5. let me ask one more thing of you. is there anybody who might be willing to volunteer to help us win this race? just give us a shout-out! all right. and i know many of you probably already have. if you have not yet volunteered and you want to, all you have to do is text together to 47246. again, that is together 47246. if you do that, you will be swept up into the campaign like the last scene of "close encounters of the third kind." everyone gets on the spaceship.

we'll sweep you up in the campaign, put you to work and show you that florida is hanging tough with hillary clinton. this election is a complicated season and a season of surprises, but we know how to do tough work and florida has shown in 2008 and 2012 with its historic support for president obama, you can deliver the goods, save the day and bring victory home. we're asking for that again in 2016. let's make history on november 8 with hillary clinton and then let's make history every day as we move this nation forward. thanks you guys so much, rattlers. thanks, famu. i'm going to try it again. thanks so much! great to be with you! ♪ ♪

announcer: senator tim kaine of virginia, the democratic vice presidential nominee speaking for about 10 or 15 minutes to supporters in tallahassee, florida, at a get out the vote rally, voter registration rally. going to take your calls in just a few moments here. let's get those numbers up for you. if you are a florida resident, call us at 202-748-8920 and all others, 202-748-8921. two lines for you, florida residents and all others. go ahead and start calling and we'll take your calls in a few moments. right now, though, we're going to get a look at the trump and clinton campaigns and

specifically a look at their advertising efforts. >> $60 million, that's the amount the hillary clinton campaign has spent so far in the general election, $4 million by the donald trump campaign. joining us on the phone is associate editor of the hill newspapers looking into these numbers. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> let's go to the headline. hillary clinton is burying donald trump in these negative ads. how significant is this? >> i think it is very significant, steve. there are a number of elements in this. one is the sheer disparity in the number that you have just mentioned. that is highly unusual at the presidential level to not have campaigns at least somewhat on equal terms. the other important fact is that this is relatively early in the campaign, the height of summer, and we have seen in the ast the capacity for one

nominee to really paint the opponent into a corner during this kind of phase of the campaign. it happened when outside groups, for example, attacked senator john kerry in 2004. so i think when you put those two factors together, it is significant. steve: we're talking about money just from the campaigns themselves, not the super p.a.c. is supporting donald trump or hillary clinton. those numbers get higher especially for the pro clinton campaign. niall: the clinton super p.a.c.s is outspent the trump's by a margin as well. when you put it all together, the advertising spent had reached over $100 million, around about $104 million. that outspends all the pro trump advertising by a margin of out 1. steve: the clinton campaign is focusing on key battle ground states. the trump campaign so far with a focus on florida, ohio,

pennsylvania, and north carolina, four states that the trump campaign insists are a must win if he has a chance to getting to 270 electoral votes. let's look at some of the adds on the air. hillary clinton: i'm hillary clinton and a proved this message. >> america depends on steady leadership. >> knock the crap out of them, seriously. >> clear thinking. >> i know more about isis than the generals. >> and calm judgment. >> and you can tell them to go [beep] themselves. >> because all it takes is one wrong move. >> i would bomb the [beep] out of them. >> just one. >> in hillary clinton's america, the system stays rigs against americans. syrian refugees flood in. illegal immigrants convicted of committing crimes get to stay collecting social security benefits, skipping the line. our border open, it's more of the same but worse. donald trump's america is secure, terrorist and dangerous

criminals kept out, the borders secure, our families safe. change that makes america safe again, donald trump for president. donald trump: i'm donald trump and a proved this message. steve: some of the ads from the clinton and trump campaign. we're joined by the social editor from the hill newspaper. have we seen these ads become more or less useful in terms of the impact they have on voters? niall: it's a great question. a lot depends on timing steve. some argue it's more effective to run them at this time than later in the campaign when the market is almost saturated with ads. nonetheless, i think there has been a gradual increase in negative campaigning and whether that to some extent leads to a law of diminishing returns is an interesting estion and it's one that the strategists and outside experts differ with their answer on that one. steve: you talk about a circle

with these ads and the impact on polls and news coverage. can you explain? niall: yes, this was a point made by one strategist who i spoke with for this story. his argument was if ads were perceived to begin to work, for example, the state he was referring to was north carolina, has been a republican-leaning state, hillary clinton very competitive, perhaps in a little bit of a lead there right now. this strategist argument was that then leads to increased interest from democrats. it makes it easier to recruit volunteers for campaigns, may even boost fundraising. so in other words ads lead to the sense of momentum. the sense of momentum creates the circle to which the article refers. steve: the trump campaign would argue that donald trump did not spend a lot, did not see a lot of trump ads in the primary, it worked for him in the primary. is it different or do they know something we don't know? niall: they would argue that donald trump is such an unusual candidate that he can rely upon

his own personal appearances, his speeches, and the interviews he gives to reduce or ameliorate the effect of the there is a difference between the primary and the general election. the primary, by its meter, you are pinned to an audience or an electorate that is, broadly speaking, in agreement with your views. they are deciding between you and one of your intra-party rivals. in the general election, you need to appeal to a base that is not that persuaded of the correctness of your views. host: based on your research, when the books are written on the 2016 campaign and the focus on this month, august, what will

they say about the clinton campaign, it's ad strategy, and the trump campaign? guest: i think they will say that the clinton campaign really try to press home its advantages while the trump campaign has been reeling from a series of missteps. think i could be an argument if hillary clinton wins this is month wast th pivotal because it enabled her to go on the air almost unopposed while the trump campaign was only just beginning its national ad campaign. that may well be seen as a serious mistake, just as some of the other samples we have cited are referred to in that fashion. this story is available online at thehill.com. thank you for being with us. guest: my pleasure. >> virginia senator tim kaine

was campaigning in florida today. we heard from him in tallahassee a few minutes ago as he spoke at a voter registration rally there. he was touring businesses today in the state capital of florida. we would like to get your thoughts on tim kaine, the presidential campaign in general, this afternoon. the numbers are on your screen. if you are a florida resident, we have a number set aside for you. everyone else, one other number. tweet us atu can c-span or go right to our facebook page. it's funny, i was event todayhis because a friend of mine was slated to introduce senator tim kaine. that ended up falling through.

i am a trump supporter and my friend is a clinton supporter. we were talking about the upcoming event tomorrow, last night, and we witnessed what appears to have been a police shooting right here in tallahassee. i think that is underpinning what is happening in america. have 20 years of life, i never been more concerned about the direction of this country, on the streets, the border security situation. i watched tim kaine, and he is talking about the anniversary of the 19th amendment, which is very important, of course, but at the same point, i am clintong how come the campaign doesn't want to talk about what happening in this things actually

are on the ground, and instead they want to just talk about trump said this, trump said that. fundamentally, they are out of touch. that's really all i have to say. host: thanks for the call. to hussein in inglewood, ohio. go ahead. toler: yes, please, allow me speak. i am a not see, i don't like blacks, i am a racist. will move on from ask that everyone keeps their comments as civil as possible. to another caller, this time in cape coral. sonja, what you think? caller: i am so glad you hung up on the guy. forgive my honesty. thank you for taking my call.

i just want to say that mrs. clinton is my inspiration. say it out loud, if you don't mind. host: well, you are on the air and you just said it. let me ask you, sonja, tim kaine , and we on the air showed his event in tallahassee, florida. we are going to show an event with mike pence tomorrow. pence, doand mike they matter? are the vice presidential running mates impacting your vote in november? caller: absolutely. he is wonderful. he makes you feel at ease, just like mrs. clinton. i live in the most or country, god bless us.

trump is so scary, it's like hello. host: thanks for the call. marietta, georgia. georgia is calling us. taking myanks for call. i enjoy tim kaine, and i think it's very important to get the vote out, but i like to point out to people that are considering supporting trump, difference between democrats and republicans. tim kaine was a missionary. tim kaine was a civil rights lawyer. hillary clinton from high school worked to help other people. that is what she has been doing .er whole life that is what tim kaine has been doing his whole life. that is what democrats have put up. republicans put up somebody who has spent his whole life working for himself and his ego. the very rich and the very

powerful have kept american citizens confused for a very long time about what they really need to do. what they really need to do is congress,ats in the the senate, and the presidency, and see how this country can move forward for everyone. host: thank you for calling. caller: i am a republican, but i certainly will not vote for trump. host: will you vote for hillary? caller: yes. host: why? caller: all her life she has done something. that benghazi thing, nobody runs that alone. she wasn't in it alone. our people ignorant? -- nobody runs that alone. our people so, you know, anyway. she has been doing things all her life.

you know what? with her husband with her, young don't like to hear it, but he did not do such a bad job. he really didn't. i trust hillary clinton. attention to what she has done, she has done a lot. what has trump done, really? i trust hillary more for that reason. floridat's get another viewpoint. christopher joining us from tallahassee. caller: i wanted to say that it seems to me just watching c-span that the one paying that stands out about tim kaine, the he advocatedhat that the congress should have to the wars and whether we

should as a nation participate in the wars in the middle east. it seems to me that is an extraordinarily important thing that he has advocated, and the many congressmen seem to want to dump their responsibility to do that fight. i am impressed by him. it worriesr side, the heck out of me that trump, who i am sympathetic to a little bit in that he is talking about lefteople who have been trade in some of the

deals, but he has chosen as the person who is going to lead his campaign somebody associated i hopeeitbart, and c-span finds the occasion to put a spotlight on what breitbart is. know about it until a couple of weeks ago, and just onring what is being said various tv stations, it is just despicable. despicable propaganda coming from this crowd. that trump would pick them out just showss campaign

what kind of off the wall and really unacceptable kind of decision-making trump has made. some thoughts about tim kaine and also about trump. thanks for calling. we covered tim kaine intel has he today. we will be with the trump campaign as -- in tallahassee today. we will be with the trump campaign and mike pence in virginia tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. our road to the white house coverage continues. on the, texas, james is line. james, are you with us? caller: i am from new orleans. it says houston here, but i will take your word for it. meler: listen, don't cut

off, because this is important for me. host: go ahead. , it's important. .'m black now -- host: are you with us? caller: yes. my best friend is white. i am black. and republican. never had a warmy best but package ready for the people .oming back home bush messed it up. he was a good president, but he messed it up. should've had a package ready for when people came back home.

have it ready. what happened with the v.a.? .ohn mccain a good, good man trump will bring this country upside down. we need to understand, it's not black and white. it's not the 1950's anymore. we need to get it together, man. we need to get it together for our grandchildren, man. right, james. we appreciate your comment. we will move on to a few more calls.

caller: talking about the next election, telling you how disappointed i am with all the people calling. it seems like everyone is trying to push for hillary, which would .e a disaster i'm sorry, but i cannot see this presidency. thank you. host: two tom with the last word. go ahead. caller: thanks for letting me speak. i am a registered democrat, but these last six months of looking at both candidates -- when trump i looked at him

and i thought man, he has the doesn'tssage, but he have the right temperament. but as i looked into other things than the allegations, the e-mail scandals with hillary and , the foundations and i amf that coming out, looking at the better of two evils here and i am supporting trump. me ask you one thing. in your decision-making process, let's talk about the vice presidential nominees for a moment, tim kaine on the democratic side with governor mike pence. -- mike pence on the republican side. did those choices by the eventual nominees have any bearing on your decision-making, on who is going to get your vote for president? caller: to be perfectly honest,

yeah, i think they have. trump was brought in by a lot of his opponents, carson, chris christie, and a lot of the and what they had to say about each other, and they came to common ground, and now they are supporting him. the people he is surrounding himself with, giving him a place on the defense of the economy, etc., it's all great. thanks very much for your thoughts. reminder that we will be with governor mike pence on the mic trail -- on the campaign trail tomorrow in virginia. he has a rally at 3:00 p.m.

mike pence, governor of indiana. , a discussion with the cofounder of "women vote "washington today's journal." theh cochair of the women vote trump, an organization unveiled back in june. what was the reasoning behind this super pac? guest: we wanted the women's voice to be out there. we realized that mr. trump does need women in this election. one of the interesting things along this campaign is that women have been reluctant to speak out. there has been pressure because of the gender shaming -- you

are supposed to vote for hillary, the first female president. he wanted to give women a safe place to support mr. trump. -- did you find yourself saying i could support donald trump? guest: for me, it was in february or march. i came to this more from the "never hillary" side and was waiting for things to shake out amongst the republican candidates. toould have been willing support several candidates. telling the 90's during the hillary care issue, and the health care task force. health care has been my area of policy and work, and being upset

about the way that was run. proposal, but the way it was run. i see a history of exclusion, trying to keep things secret. i was working with a group that sued hillary over the secrecy of the task force. host: your group is women vote trump. who is part of this coalition? fundraising, what level are you looking at? guest: not for the campaign, for our pac. we are a super pac. my colleague is the former chairman of the tea party express, and considered one of the founding mothers of the tea party movement. she was one of the original founders of the tea party patriots. one of our cochairs was a longtime republican activist and

a cofounder of the women's history is he him. ann has moved over to the trump campaign, which is great. she is doing coalition work for them. that is great. amongst the female groups and ad hoc groups. host: one of the latest snapshot from monmouth university, the latest polling goes through august 7. so far, they look in terms of white women without a college to become a 49% support donald trump post up 32% support hillary clinton. women with a college degree, 27% support donald trump, 57% support hillary clinton. speaking to that audience of women, what is your message? guest: let me preface one thing,

did they ask who would you be voting for, or favorables? guest: that is a key issue here. we are dealing with two candidates that have high unfavorables. unfavorable does not equate with will vote for. tahhat is key. back to your question. what we are seeing is that polling isn't giving us a snapshot. particularly in those communities of the educated, white, upper middle class, there of gender pressure to support hillary clinton. so, those are the women that have been reluctant and reported a great deal of pressure and backlash if they talk about

trump. we are not sure those numbers are complete accurate. the message is it is ok to vote for mr. trump. he is a supporter of women. i talked to a woman who is 26 the other night, college-educated. her first answer was "he loves women, it is obvious. i can tell none of this information painting him as a misogynist is true." host: you can send us a tweet @ cspanwj. your organization set up back in june, how would you describe the trump campaign outreach? guest: well, one of the reasons

we set up was that we saw the trump organization seemed not to have the ground game together that in the spring and early summer. we saw all of these ad hoc groups springing up a stub nevada women for trump, new york women for trump, all over the places. there are hundreds of these groups doing it on their own. we wanted to create a home ofor them. we call ourselves the home for women who support trump. then, the -- i thinkw e have see n a change as our cofounder and think of -- i still her as conway. as her of her so long

maiden name. we will see a big difference now. we can move back over to the idea of being the role of a real path. to raise money to get the women's voice out there. we are looking to tell women's storeis. we have women who have worked for mr. trump. they are telling their stories. peoplere -- there are you may not expect. latina woman who wants to go out and tell her story. so many people are willing to speak up. three, his third campaign manager. what do you think of her. guest: i have known kelly a long time. she is very organized. i don't knowis --

how to describe it. reasonable,y organize person who is a good move for him. host: are you seeing that influence in the couple of comments he has made so far? guest: so far? i think so. in on thei am not campaign. i have no communication with the campaign. standing back and looking as an observer, i would say i am seeing her influence. that is to -- she is a very calm, reasonable person. i am seeing some of that generate from the campaign. host: let's get to the calls. good morning. this.just wanted to pose the considered a leader in republican party in utah.

for me number one thing because i am also african-american. the reason why trump has outreachsome of his and his position is because he wants to appeal to white women voters. i don't know if that is true. i would like to pose the question, from a woman's point of view, what is the main reason that he has been making this transition during this outreach? my number one concern has been literally early in this campaign hurtd a tweet that -- it my soul as a plaque republican -- black republican. he has apologized. what can women expect from these

changes? guest: that is a really good question. one of the things we have heard is they are supporting him because of him telling it like it is. they feel like they're getting the truth from him. we acknowledge and say clearly in our video he is not perfect. a perfectat he is not candidate. women now he is not a perfect candidate. of, he is -- it is a breath fresh air to women. he has to balance keeping that, always telling the truth, along with tone. someoneisclose, i am who has coached candidates for debate. i prepped him for doing their presentations and speeches.

be known as a spin person. i can tell when somebody has been focused grouped and prepped and is going down the talking points. that is not mr. trump. i saw that from the very beginning. sometimes he stumbles on words and what he is saying. he is speaking off the cuff, without a teleprompter. well, when you do that, sometimes you will misspeak. i will this speaks today because i don't have a script. dot is what we saw him sometimes. that was a problem with his tone or a question with a choice of words. what he is trying to do is be more disciplined about his message in my opinion. he will be more disciplined about his message while remaining true to who he is which is to tell the truth. we want to see, that is one of the things that women like so much about him. he is telling the truth.

when they see hillary clinton and think that it is focus group tested and she has had everything -- host: now on our democrats line. caller: good morning, greetings from tropical ohio. being surrounded by other democrats, i voted democrat since jimmy carter, they think ofn i tell them the story bill and hillary leaving the white house and taking furniture, artwork, linen. they had to count the silverware. they think it is a conspiracy. . they think it is a trumped up thing from the republican party. it wasn't until she was ready to run for senate that they said these things back. could you please corroborate my story that this really did happen? with notnot trust her

taking things the white house how can we trust her as president? guest: iam showing my age. i was there. i came to washington in 1993 to fight hillary care. the lawsuited in against hillary because of the lawsuit in the violation -- the secrecy in the violation of the laws which required open meetings. they refused to hold open meetings. that is back to 1993. we started right off the bat with the clintons with secrecy and deception. they said nobody -- everybody on the task force was a federal employee. they were financed from all over the country. people from insurance companies were able to, i would now say evil to bu -- now say able to buy seats. they did take things from the

white house. millennialsive our and education in the last 25 years of history with the clintons. they warned around. i was talking to some young women, they want around for all of the escapade with the clintons in the 1990's. they don't realize this is a very long pattern. host: our guest is the cochair of women vote trump. to find out more at womenvotetrump.com. some comments on twitter. i don't think, one says, that we or identityve race politics. another says is there a silent majority among women that will vote for trump that we are unaware of? do women for trump think about having a female nude model in the white house? before that was

-- the silent majority. i completely agree with that. women'shrough the movement in the 60's. i was a witness to the civil rights movement in the 60's. i feel like i have been breaking the glass ceilings. i was one of the first women in a television station. i would love to see a woman in the white house. i can't tell you how much i would love to see a woman in the white house. but not this woman. not hillary clinton. i am not proud to have her represent me as the first woman in the white house for stuff there are many women who feel the same way. again, they are afraid to say it and speak out because of the pressure. i want to talk about one thing -- i don't fit labels. i am not a long time republican activist or consultant. that is not me.

i was previously a democrat. but, i don't fit the labels. it is difficult to segue into the other question. into the labels most what we've seen so far is trying to get people by gender, race, i would likeics -- to see that stop and shutdown and just talk about issues. beenf the things that has extremely disappointing, i will leave the show today and i can tell you my twitter feed will be full of all kinds of ugly comments. most will be gender specific. they will refer to my weight, l ooks, and call me dirty names. from -- the truth is, it is coming from the

hillary supporters. that needs to stop. the gender politics, the racism, i am insulted when i am called a racist because i support donald trump. that deeply offends me. it wounds me, and upsets me. as far as a nude model in the white house, i am more offended by having a first gentleman having liaisons in the oval office than i am by one picture few melania trump did a years ago. i want tood morning, begin this by saying i am a yetired, very senior militar retiree. i have a phd.

phd at is completing her the university of minnesota. they will both be third-generation graduates. she is being threatened by her c lassmates, let alone her professors, because we support donald trump. they have gone as far as denying her thesis. her support for trump, it has nothing to do with what the thesis is about. it has everything to do with her politics.

yetonsider this to be another example of political correctness. correctness it is supporting. host: we appreciate your call. guest: we get this a lot. our celebrity cochair has talkedloquently -- eloquently about the hate she has received and the impact that is happening on her professional life. a personal you example. i had a yard sale in seattle last week, it is a pretty blue area. we have a socialist on the city council. i took my trump sign down before sale. the yard

i can't keep a sign up. i was worried about pushback. i should know better, but i caved to it. lines, ang the same tweet that says my expensive, private college educated wife won't be voting for hillary if her life depended on it. , what youck to that said earlier. a reflection be that among white women trump is trailing clinton by 30 points. that is just the opposite for women without a college degree. is one of the things that we realize. we can nudge the numbers on those women a few numbers, and make the difference in this

election. host: let's hear from sharon, on the democrats line. caller: i find it insulting that women feel the need to put for hillary because she is a woman. please give us more credit than that. frankly, you are -- your twitter all.e should say it said, bitchna fey is the new black. i have been called so much worse supporters with the words i can't even repeat on the air. never telling me to do things to parts of my body that are physically impossible. i wouldn;'t want my mom to see those things. i am old enough to have come glass ceiling

myself. i didn't care what you called me, that was ok just give me the job. that was back in the women's movement in the 70's. things were quite different than. as for as feeling like they have to vote, was in the marilyn albright to told us there was a special place in hell for women who didn't support other women? a moment when i decided i needed to do something to support mr. trump and take action. i was deeply offended that madeleine albright telling me i was going to hell if i didn't support hillary. i take offense with your position as well. also on how democrats line, good morning. as a democrat, i feel betrayed and they turned mr. trump into a demon.

i have a masters degree in computer engineering. all my compatriots are voting for donald trump. democratsd for more to vote republican. part -- i feel his heart is there. he wants american -- america to be better. i think he wants people to appreciate him and respect him as a leader. he has proven he is a leader in his own business. today is national women's equality day. end of theate the amendment giving women the right to vote. women'she models of the deeds,e movement was, not words.

that is one of the things that we look at mr. trump is look at his deeds, look at his hiring of women, hiring of minorities. look at his family, how he treats the women and respect women. look at his daughter. look at the deeds, not the words. be, hees he doesn't this says things we would rather not have him say. thank you so much for support. bannon,ws about stephen he was in a domestic dispute is in the headline of the "new york times." it was part of an effort to reset a candidacy that has stumbled with minority and female voters. mr. bannon brings to the post his own background that includes misdemeanor charges of domestic

violence and allegations that he threatened his been wife with retribution if she testified in a criminal case. the charges were dropped in that case. how difficult does this make your efforts? upst: this kind of burns me when i see these types of things coming out. they had to work long and hard to find something, of which he was not convicted. nothing andt to be it has gone on. i wish that the press would do the same investigating -- if they are going to talk about sexual behavior or actions towards women, to somebody who is a campaign person, all we have to do is look at the first gentleman if you want to talk

about sexual escapades and treatments of women. -- treatment of land. there is no comparison between what is more important. things in our past that we probably are proud of. if you want to research any person on the planet you can find something. this turned out to be nothing. host: mary lou in new jersey on the independent line. bill andood morning kathryn. thank you for c-span. catherine i voted for donald trump in the primary and i have every intention of voting for him in the general election. however, i am very troubled about what i am hearing regarding his change in policy on the issue of immigration. , it was hishis is signature issue that made many people flock to donald trump.

this issue has been out of control for so many years that when he stepped up to the forefront and said he was finally going to get this under control, this is what basically attracted me to donald trump. i think one problem is that he is starting to surround himself with too many people from the establishment. if he isn't careful, like in my case, i will stay home. if he changes his policy and does not follow through on building the wall and deporting these people that are in this country illegally, i, for the first time, will not be voting. this is very important that he sticks to this. i know a lot of people who are enraged by this change. when he getshat feedback from his supporters, he will turn around and follow through on what he promised us,

to get him elected in the primary. guest: i like it that you are speaking out. you raise a couple of things. immigrationabout first. seen is that he is a work in progress, and that he is trying to define his policy. he has not yet delineated the policy. the talk this week was delayed. what i see is that he delayed it because he wanted to get more information. he was at eight tom hall -- he and asked town hall for feedback. it seems to me that he is doing what i want a leader to do, which is going out and getting information and talking and listening to people. he can listen to what you have to say. change as seen any far as the wall.

know everybody is analyzing every word he said about it. i don't know what is in his heart or mind. i personally think that the wall is set. he also talked about deporting jails,minals in our sending them back to their home countries as a done deal. is, this is so complex and issue, is harry reid and nancy pelosi and president obama wanted to fix it or could fix it, they had two years to do it with the control of the house, the senate and the president he. it is a very -- the presidency. it is a very complex issue. keep speaking out and let him know what you think. i like it that he is listening checking.e is still

the other thing that you raised is the establishment that you are worried about the establishment people coming on. i like it that you said that, because, one of the things that i personally like about him is that he is very disruptive to the republican party, and i like that. , that'shave changed when we have change sometimes we have chaos long we have change. i see that as a positive. host: her comments are reflective of the wall street journal headline. donald trump's mixed signals on immigration on the campaign. silver spring, maryland. caller: hillary is personal for me. i am 69 and legally blind. my wife who was an extreme liberal, as soon as the clintons got into office she gave me an

ultimatum, either the marriage or rush limbaugh. i picked rush limbaugh and she dumped me. rush said on his show many times that hillary will remind every man who has been through a divorce with the way she screams and yells, she does remind me of my former wife, who i cannot stand. that youm glad apparently got custody of c-span as well, or joint custody as well. host: a new ad that came up by the clinton campaign focusing on some of the things that donald trump has said, and families reaction. here's what it looks like. clip] go --n help them to

himself. when mexico since its people, they are bringing drugs, crime, they are rate this. you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, coming out of her wherever. >> our children and grandchildren will look accurate this time at the choices we are about to make. the goals people strive for, the principles we will live by. we need to make sure that they can be proud of us. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. host: what did you think? this is a little reworking of the spot that has been running since july, they tacked on the hillary, at the

end. promisesherry pick from any candidate and string them together and make them look. if we want to take hillary parking and some of her comments and string them along, we can do the same thing with her. vote trump does have a spot to answer this spot going on. looking at theo deeds, not the words. this is a state of politics today. every time a candidate missteps or says something, that becomes the thing that will go into the spot and get played over and over again out of hours and hours of comments, rallies, speeches, etc.. politicians and people who run for office must have different dna than the rest of us to be willing to do this.

i'm in all of all of them on all sides, that they are willing to do it. fishers, indiana on the democrats line. caller: hello. i heard her talk about hillary. i am having a problem with trumps ethics. not paying contractors, his investment. i don't really see the comparison. i never knew a democrat to take away rights. i have seen republicans take away rights and want to take away rights. whisking women's rights -- risking women's right is severe. cap -- this is beyond me to hear this. i am voting for keeping rights. guest: i don't see what rights mr. trump is trying to take away when he talks about bringing jobs to the country, bringing

jobs for women. one of our former co-chairs worked for mr. trump back in the 1980's, and has known him for many, many years. she told us that the issue with the subcontractors was that he had a problem and they had not done the job, and he wasn't paying them until they finished the job. it's not that he just refused to pay a bill. back to people who work for him, they have wonderful things to say. -- you tough about the democrats and republicans taking away rights? itt is a big discussion, but seems to me that it is the democrats who are trying to limit using big government as the weapon. the other thing that you you don't think

that his ethics compared to mrs. clinton's. i can't see how you can even begin to compare whether he paid a contractor or not with the fact that the woman had a server that was not secure and was in exposing herries, and her e-mails to potential enemies of this country. how is that not one of the worst things that you can do? host: florida, good morning to donald. good morning c-span and good morning to your guests. i have not seen any plan that donald trump has had put out except make it great, trust me and i am going to do it. he really hasn't given a plan on anything he will do. remarks and comments

that he has made, these are things that came out of his , from recordings of him saying things. it's not like somebody is putting words in his mouth. he is a racist. dollars .0 policy specifics, is this something you would like more from the campaign? i understand why, he is not professional politician. he has not had the same briefings, people sitting down and talking with him. he is starting from scratch and is working his way through it. that he ise listening and trying to form a policy, instead of telling us what we should accept from him. i would like to see some more specifics.

as we move into debate time, he will have to be more specific been. specific then. i don't understand this charge of misogyny and racism. what has he done to put women down? what has he done to keep women down? what has he done that is racist? that is why i am offended when sayle say that when people that i am for him. meet deeply wounding four for you to call us racist because we support donald trump. host: your online at women vote

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september 6. next, a conversation with former and aent jimmy carter ugandan war refugee who is now the ceo of the national civil and human rights center. of a series of national archives conversations on rights and justice. >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome to a lovely day. want to specifically thank jimmy carter for giving us this wonderful opportunity. mr. carter: i am not as well dressed as you. [laughter] the center ceo for of human rights. i am very glad to be here. there are a couple of things we are going to do. first, turn off your cell phones if you have one. when we are done with the

sit for af you could little bit to wait for me and the president to walk out, that would be appreciated as well. we are so delighted to talk to you today. but there are so me things going on as you can imagine. the national conversation is very serious. particularly around the bill of , which include civil rights. i'm interested to hear from you what you think about civil rights today.

jimmy carter: it is nice to see after many years -- the first draft of the constitution did not include the bill of rights. were not enough states to ratify the constitution. those a big major undertaking. james madison and others had to itft those members area wasn't until after the civil war that the 15th amendment -- the 13th, 14, 15th amendment was passed. when did women get a right to vote in this country?

that's not right. that's when white women got the right to vote. tot's an important thing remember because it 1920 the constitution was passed but women have the right to vote. it wasn't until 30 years later lyndon johnson was president of the civil rights movement. an african-american women also got the right to vote. that was an important issue. the 24th amendment they do not have to pay phone tax. -- poll tax. there has been a step-by-step progression. i would say in the 60's and 70's, the united states, harry truman when i was on the summer

and said there would not be -- on the submarine, he said there was going to be no discrimination in the military service. fellas about seven years before rosa parks sat in front of a bus. of course, as i mentioned earlier, when that was successful, we basically had the civil rights act and people all over the country could vote. i and most other leaders in our country said, we finally provided it. for all of our people. that was a brief period of relaxation and self congratulations.

we have seen lately, particularly with the abuse of white policeman against african-americans and so forth, we still have a long way to go. i've understanding that we had a relapse and there seems to be another stirring of a deeper commitment by our country to look at our size -- ourselves and see what can be done about rights to everyone. this includes the gays and lesbians and so forth as well as people of different races. it is a constant struggle for the united states to shine a beacon of light for other nations to allow ourselves to benefit as well. it has been a long struggle that still goes on. >> we are looking at turning into a voting procedure. i have an interesting story around that. when i worked for you as an

, to help vote,r i had never voted before. i'm the had a chance to vote in my country -- i never had the chance to vote in my country. and i got to vote in the united states i woke up at the clock in -- woke up at 3:00 in the morning to get mine. -- get in line. persona of an african coming to this country and being afforded the same justices is remarkable. now that we have this issue of it is a big on, election year. carter: we have had a large number of people turn out to vote this year. some new voters for trump and sanders. unfortunately, i within the

republican party, state-by-state they have become domineering in the state legislation and governor's office, they have tightened the ability to vote by requiring complicated acquisition of id cards and so this is discriminated against. some people who don't have cover licenses. older people in nursing homes that don't have a need to have a automobile. we are seeing a deliberate move on the part of some people who are not likely to vote for them. when i was governor of georgia, there was a wide move through

the country to increase the number of people who could vote. we designated every high school principal to be a voting registrar. every haskell had a voting registrar. -- high school had a voting registrar. every may i would have a contest to see which high school can register the most voters. when i got to the white house, i found that it was impossible to do the same thing. tip o'neill, came in and said, we will not be successful with this because neither democrats nor republicans want to open up the right to vote to new voters because the qualified voters have put that there and they don't want new voters to come in and vote. it is bipartisan reluctance to let voting be open and free and

universal. for a long time, monitor the elections there were a lot of them. restricted to 650,000 small villages in china now part of the congress party. those little villages, and bonus automatically registered to vote at the age of 18 which i think we should have. men and women both. that is the kind of thing we need to do in this country. universal voting without going through any procedures when you reach the legal age to vote. derreck: we have human rights and i think what is perturbing is this idea that human rights are being denied around the world. what do you think about when you think about human rights today?

it has been a very disappointing thing. butnot just being critical, i think the best thing is to pull out arbitrary improvement than what we have done. navy reachingthe for greatness and more than ethical values as human beings. that was immediately after the second world war. we were assembled, about 45 nations or so. the ones who were victorious in the world. they had established the united

nations with the idea of peace. the united nations and the security council were designed so that it would prevent wars in the future. a few years later, the declaration of human rights was passed and adopted. with some caveats. the south africans would not agree for blacks to vote. freea would not permit living russia. a few caveats. i would say that that moment, human beings look at the combined commitment of the great religions, christianity, judaism, islam, hinduism, and they took the finest elements of those great religions and put

them into three paragraphs that comprised the decoration of human rights. that was something perfect picture of how everyone should be treated peacefully with equal rights. the security council had abandoned this commitment to peace. if you are powerful nation, and you have a right to veto, you can do almost anything. and the security council would not condemn you. at the united states has sent troops to 30 countries to fight. other countries can do the same thing. if they are powerful enough. eight couple years ago, the new york times, the united states is finally can at least 10 of the

-- united states is violating at least 10 of the 30 paragraphs and the universal declaration of human rights. a lot of those related to discrimination of women. not just blacks being equal to whites, so i think we have a long way to go. we need to reassess the basic premise of the united nations. to be for peace. and recommit ourselves to the basic encircles of human rights. principles -- recommit ourselves to the basic principles of human rights. i would urge all of you on google to pull up the universal declaration of human rights. 30 paragraphs and spells out what you should do on human rights. it is easy to violated.

at 9/11, united states clampdown on rights. freedom of knowing information. we have a long way to go. >> and interesting lady, she and i were talking over lunch and she was talking about, she was recounting her husband's work in the civil rights movement. i'm thinking about how that is connected to the human rights movement. do you feel proud of what the state has gone through through the civil rights movement? jimmy carter: he is from georgia and we are proud of what he did and his family.

and people associated with him. there was a time in the 50's when george was very negative on the civil rights movement and we condemned martin king junior as a person try to overthrow us and change the basic structure of the government. for 100 years, we had legal discrimination against black people. it was a combined commitment of churches and u.s. congress and the supreme court and the american bar association also it is ok to discriminate against african-americans and consider whites superior. that was a major accomplishment for him and the civil rights movement.

georgia was, with a few southern states that did not oppose the changing, the integrating schools for instants after the supreme court ruling that there should not be separate but equal. other state law leaders disagreed. in some cases the u.s. had to send some troops down. we have had a good chance in this state to do well. and of course recently with the lgbt legislators passed and the the legislature and the governor --we vetoed the legislation

have another battle site after the race issue is, someday, resolve. mr. kayongo: two more questions for we go to the audience, -- before we go to the audience, petitioning for rights, you see in the black lives matter and the kids in africa speaking about -- everybody has had a rough time. how do you take this mantle of -- do itd do away with in a way that is influential? jimmy carter: if the young people do not do it, it will not

be done. college-age. time when the human beings are formative years, when they have the maximum degree of consuming new ideas from their professors, and so forth. they are also unbound by preserving the status quo. as soon as you graduate from college, you is a substantial point of your human freedom if you get a job with that airlines, coca-cola, a bank. you have to comply with the policies of your corporation. the freedom you had on the college campus to speak out with a voice and said that is when there is a stirring of conscious and you say what can i do to improve the world?

that changes when you get a job and a family. that is why in a most every country, it is the young people who have started the revolutions that have brought about changes. kayongo: do you think today in the united states, doing a great job bringing up children to understand moral aptitude? mr. carter: i think so. i believe that most college , there isfor instance an effort by most colleges campuses, not all of them to andinate new ideas encourage their students to

adopt high ideals or highest rations -- high aspirations of ethical values. aspirations of ethical and moral values and to question the political arrangement or the societal arrangements in which they have grown up. as i have said earlier, bigotry older -- when they get older, they don't want to endanger their job or become unemployed when you have a wife or children to take care of. i would say in the united states we have an adequate degree of opportunities on campus is to speak out in an innovative or semi-revolutionary way. mr kayango: those of you who have questions, there is one out there. yes. >> as the leader of the administration that set up the department of education, and congratulations on that, do you

think we would benefit and would you favor mandatory courses in the curriculum perhaps as early as elementary school on human and civil rights, conflict negotiation, conflict resolution and negotiation? mr. carter: that is a hard question for me to answer. i think when you start having the federal government to mandate if you have to have this or that course for fourth graders or it graders or seniors in high school, that kind of interferes with the basic commitment i have to let people decide on their own curriculum. i would say that they should be within every school in the basic social science class. showing the history of human

rights and also encouraged students to learn about what their own country is doing. think it is a good idea. but i think you have to be careful not to insert too much on the local board of education's right to set their own curriculum. >> thank you for being here today. the world has changed so much in your lifetime. were looking at past archives but we are also looking at the future. how should we look at the future deal with the changing world we live in? mr. carter: i grew up during the great depression years. all my neighbors were african-american. my playmates were black. the ones who are in the field were black. until i was a teenager, i never

realized that they had separate and unequal schools. never realized their parents cannot vote. i never realized my playmates's parents cannot serve on a jury. they had been deprived of basic rights. it was a time for me to remind all of us about that. we have an obligation now as adults to make sure our children understand not only the highest ideals of where society should be about equal opportunity and equal rights, that also to look at the history of successes in the past and to glorify the champions like andy young and martin luther king jr. and rosa parks and lyndon johnson and harry truman.

i had barcodes operated against my business but i never had a threat to my life like others have had. to teach the history of what has been done in the past and we could all, within our own families so heroic. go about saying, to point out their achievements have not been perpetuated because of a natural tendency of anyone of us to feel superior to someone else. we all have an element of pride and great within us. at least better than an alcoholic, a black person or a woman, we have those misconceptions that we are better than someone else. but we, i think that could be done, yeah.

we will have people collect the -- could be done. and some degree jump from the schools. >> we will have people collect the yellow cards so we can grab these questions and get them on the air. we have people who are tweeting and writing questions, a volunteer is coming around to collect fees. jim -- mr. carter: but i have to go to willie nelson concert tonight. [laughter] >> i hope i can come. [laughter] one of the biggest things that

is just his -- they things right now is the subject matter of religion. i think some people are either happy or sad that the new mayor of london is a muslim. mr. carter: i was able to join in the celebration that he was elected. mr. kayango: how do you think that? mr. carter: well, this young man is quite highly qualified. he won without equivocation. he is a muslim and london society, from observing people, is quite diverse now and becoming more so. i think what the president quandary of the u.s. fighting itself closing its doors to refugees because many of them

happen to be islamic, a clear signal for europe to observe. i'm very pleased with that. mr. kayongo: most people do not know that in our congress, we have a buddhist and muslim and is in this room today. a question from the audience, how do we impress upon younger generations that change has actually occurred even though we have more work to do? how do we restore hope? >> it is hard to answer that question. in our schools and family life which i mentioned earlier, we can certainly outline the history of the struggle for human rights because a lot of people think human rights we have enjoyed have always been with us on a particularly in the united states of america. we don't realize that for many

years, women could not vote and black women cannot vote until much later. and that people who did not pay taxes cannot vote. even in our original constitution, we do not have bill of rights and it. the first segment of our session is a quick history that we are to share with our young people. >> an interesting one. kayongo: an interesting one. the idea of power. is power corruptive inherently? this current election season has in my opinion shown there is no need for super pac's. the ones that go behind your

back. mr. carter: i think one of the stupidest decision the supreme court ever made was citizens united. [applause] ordained that a corporation has the same characteristic under the constitution as a human being. now we have massive infusions of money into the political campaigns. when i ran for office, it was a big difference. we raised money a few dollars at a time and there was a limit on what anybody could contribute. when i ran and the general election coming unit for how much money i raised? -- general how

election, you know how much money i raised? zero. we exhibit a one dollar per person that a taxpayer can indicate on his tax return. they put the dollar in the pot. gerald ford and i share the money in that pot and we do not ask us to go to give us money. now we have legal bribery in this country. [applause] has to go out and ask for money, congress, governor, representative, you can't get elected. i think that has deteriorated our own elective system far below the standards. we not dream of monitoring an election that has the same rules as the united states.

we were required to have a circular election commission so they are putting all over the country. united states let every county decide how people vote. punchcards and that thing. other countries, require all the qualified counties have equal access to radio and television advertisements where as in our country, you have to buy it. i would say that citizens united was a great setback to inherit democracy in our country. not just to the election process. it makes every successful election candidate in the congress obligated to certain special interests for access and to take advice on how to vote.